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Will the release for international version / KO version be different?

So many good looking MMORPGs coming out- FF14, GW2, and this D: (Did blade & soul / mabinogi 2 drop off the radar?)

Nope, no screen shots yet.

People expect it to be like Lime Odyssey, it was made by the former RO2 team that was fired from Gravity it also uses the same game engine namely Gamebryo.

>Rouge -> Thief

Creative.

No crus/paladin and no bard/dancer I'm okay with this.

>Rouge -> Thief
>Creative.

I raged inside a bit too.

>>5654203
As of now very little info has been out, no screen shots or videos, but considering this is gravity we'll probably have to wait a year or so. Yeah I do think RO2 is too little to late most other BIG MMOs with outshine it by a mile but considering it's going to be F2P I'll at least try it. I'm also in the kRO2 beta in 48days so I'll post info etc....

As for Blade and Soul, I wasn't hyped about it at all I have to say but yeah it seems the hype has died in the face of things like Guild Wars 2 and FFXIV...

I'm not really hyped about mabinogi 2 to be honest but it looks like a mix of monster hunter and deamon's souls, if it turns out to be like that it will be pleasantly surprised. And I'll probably play it.


Also about the RO2 hype, I'm the only one making it no one else seems to be interested and think what I said above, medicore too late game that will never be as good as it predecessor.

Picture Related seems to be form left to right.

1.Wizard
2.Priest
3.Knight
4.Theif
5.Ranger

Why do you even post that here? I mean seriously do you think anyone cares about RO2 now?

It's too late, I would have cared in 2006/2007.

>>5654203
Don't forget TERA!

God damn it ;_;

>>5654463
Nostalgia probably, I really have fond memories of RO.

>>5654203
>mabinogi 2

They have to finish releasing Mabinogi Heroes before they can work on that proper. Heroes goes in to beta in the west like in fall.

So no Taekwon?

>>5654470
>TERA
Piece of shit only good for its lolicatgirls.

>>5654513
Probably what fighter is.

>Rogue
-> Theif

Where do I sign up for the CBT?

>>5654527
Neat, I hope we get a new Star Gladiator.

What is this TERA about I never heard of it...

>>5654527
Fighter is probably the Tank and the Knight is a DPS with Two-Hand Swords and Spears.

>Rogue
>-> Theif
Finally. It always bugged me that thieves would turn into assassins. Assassins aren't thieves, but they are rogues.

>>5654562
It's a wow killer with catgirls. Basically the next Aion.

>>5654558
>>5654527
I'd say there a good chance the Monk is an actual martial artist this time and because it's not limited by 2d sprites he can probably attack with his legs now too.

>>5654567
I'll never forget Aion for robing me of 50€. It wasn't worth 20$ not 50€ fucking koreans. So I'll probably try the Open beta but I'll never play the game.

Man I hope the UI is nice. The RO one is garbage and even the new FFXIV UI is really ugly.

>>5654580
What kind of UI would you like?

>>5654584
Lua UI so I can install plenty of supa kawai addons

>>5654580
You want it to have a WoW UI don't you?

>>5654569

The female monk do kicks

>>5654594
To be honest the in game FFXIV UI (for example) isn't that bad but the equipment menu ones and such look a little lazy. From what I saw from some people live streaming the beta, anyway.

>>5654584
Nope!

>>5654602
Seeing how priests look like, I wouldn't find it surprising.

>>5654558
Star Gladiators were so confusing. God damn.

about TERA, i kind of always kinda been upset that mmos don't have proper hit detection.

but this looks like it's more monster hunter, third person action gamish, which is interesting, cause i've never really tried that, but wouldn't the lag hurt this bad?

>>5654655
Lag and Ping would hurt it REAL BAD.

I never played a Monster Hunterish MMO so gues I'll try TERA or Mabiongi Heroes whatever comes first.

>>5654655
Lag is always going to hurt. Asians are never going to learn this or care. The game will be made for their internet and not adapted. You'll have to deal with it or not play.

The problem with TERA is that it looks more like a fap-game rather than an rpg.

>>5654679
The same could be said of all MMOs.

>>5654686
>All Korean MMOs

Indeed

>>5654699
I'll hope the other thing can't be said. The fact that almost every korean game is GRIND 24/7

>>5654679

I don't see how that's supposed to be a problem. If I was King Hitler, I would decree that all RPGs must be full of rude titties.

>>5654706
>If I was King Hitler,

And Hitler you would be, because I believe that mmos should allow you to make perfectly flat chest should you will it.

>>5654702
Every MMO is also grind if all you're obsessed with is leveling. The only other option is to hand you everything on a platter. Or to play an FPS if you want everyone to always have the same thing with only skill mattering.

>>5654743
>>5654706
Flat chest Allies vs Axis of Tits

>RO2
>NOT DEAD YET
>THEY KEEP INVESTING ON IT INSTEAD OF RO

Ok.

>WOE GUARDIANS ARE PET XDDDDD

Fuck..

>SAME OLD SHIT
>XD ANIMU 3D GRAPHICS

why u do this

>>5654567
ok. I'll play this.

>>5654790
Honestly, guild guardian being a pet sounds interesting.

I'm seeing it like the Guild grunties in .hack//gu- Specialized, unique. People will probably even start caring about their guardian like a pet.

>>5654790
>XD ANIMU 3D GRAPHICS
These are the only good MMO graphics. Generic fantasy is ugly. The only good realistic type is lineage series.

>>5654815
Probably it is a good idea, but I'm just already used to hate RO2 becuase Gravity will surely start slowly dropping normal RO. Seriously, much of the great features that are being added in RO2 would do much better and improve RO.

I acknowledge that there been some awesome additions in RO (BG, Starter Quest Company, Third Class, El Dickastes) and things like that), but so much more could be added at the same timespan they used to add them.

>>5654815
I could imagine, hey it's your turn to feed it, no it's not I did it last week. PET DRAMA.
But yeah it sounds like an interesting idea.

>>5654807
Play it while it's free, don't get baited by awesome graphics like us Aion fags did. Because behind the awesome eye melting graphics there is nothing but pure shit. EVERYWHERE.

>>5654873
If you ask me I know RO2 isn't going to be like that but they should take the Blizzard way, make it just a sequel with everything intact. SC2 plays differently from SC1 but the game play mechanics are the same inb4 someone baws about muta micro and lurkers. Just like Diablo 3 is going to be the same old Diablo 2 but with hell of a lot new features and better grapics.

RO 2 should be what Diablo 3 is to Diablo 2. What Starcraft 1 is to Starcraft2. People don't want WoW they're sick of shitty 3rd person 3D games with cooldown timers. They want the point and click, spam skills RO1. The MMO animu diablo 2 clone that plays a lot more like a sandbox then a story driven game.

But deep down I know it's not going to be anywhere near that.

>>5654873
or it could be like Everquest, and how they pay attention to both... because Everquest 2 was never popular

I think the prefect indicator if it's going to be a good game is the element tables, if they bring element tables back in their full glory it's probably going to be a good game, if they decide to get rid of the awesome RO1 element table then it's probably going to be a shitty wow clone with RO elements.

>>5654513
I prefer no Taekwon to a badly added class.

Not bad class, just badly added.

>>5654919
>They want the point and click, spam skills RO1
True. But don't forget that RO also has cooldown. Trying to cast heal after a TU while running away is not fun if you died 5 times already.

>>5654948
What I mean is you know you have 7 skills in a game, and then you go like f1~f7 and then you wait for the to recharge and then again.

Ro had cooldowns but they where measured in milliseconds not minutes or seconds or even hours like Aion.

BY cooldowns I mean the slow pace of these new 3rd person MMOs where you wait for skills to recharge.

RO 1 is more of an action RPG where by other games like WOW and Aion and Warhammer etc... are nore like normal RPGs like NWN where you spend time waiting and doing nothing.

I know I'm writing to much but can anyone tell me if one of the new MMOs have a melee attack class that doesn't use skills. I mean like crit assassin in RO or Two-handed Knight or gank rogue or agi hunter etc... You get the point.

>>5654968
>>where you spend time waiting and doing nothing

That is total bullshit that shouldn't be in a game.

>>5654919
I'm more afraid of people (like me) who have already worked hard for the characters, made a guild, fight every weeked for their castles and strive to have the most fun even when the server is filled with bots. Making a sequel and droping the current one is like giving a finger to everyone who play RO1. People

Diablo I is probably a good example, but unlike RO, Diablo 'kinda' have a ending point, RO doesn't, every week you are fighting, every six months something new is added and you have fun doing it. I haven't played diablo much, but I believe there is a time where you say "oh, ive already done everything".

>>5654928

Good stuff on RO
>Elemental Tables
>WoE
>BG (even though I think it came from other mmos)
>Card Socketing

There is probably even more, but I'm way too pessimist right now.

>>5654991

Dunno any.

man, what level did you get to in aion?

level 50 pvp is the shit, not slow at all.

One thing I haven't seen in other MMOs is the stats. In other games you could change them a bit but you didn't have full control like in RO.

>>5655027
you forgot to say that RO plays more like an action-rpg, unlike most mmo these days

>>5654872
>I could imagine, hey it's your turn to feed it, no it's not I did it last week. PET DRAMA.
Make the pet look like (green) Lif and I'll take care of it even after it stops being the 4chan flavor of the month.

>>5655035
I was like 35 or something, I just couldn't take the grind. And the game for some reason stooped being fun. I was a Sorcerer.

>>5655041
Actually they said stats are back 100% in RO2. Let's hope this isn't just PR marketing bullshit. Oh well we'll know in 48 days.

>>5655041
It's HARD to balance out stats, it's much easier to just make stats set in stone so there is no way something ends up abused or leave the class roles a bit unclear (much as what happens to double Fortune Sword assassins, where as they should be dps they can still tank).

>>5655035
Had a cleric level 32.
- Quests were basically kill 30 monsters or bring me 20 pieces of loot from these monsters. And they gave shit EXP points.
- Grinding wasn't any fun.
- Bots.
I wish I could have my money back.

>>5655042

that's why tera is interesting, it's like a real action-rpg, does seem a bit slow though.

but hit registration, monster hunter/demon's souls dodging attacking.

thing is the mmo monster hunter frontier, when you do party stuff, it's all instanced, as in you won't see other groups or players trying to steal your kill etc. it's kinda like you just wait in a hubworld/lobby, get your group and then, you play with your group in this isolated world. (i wonder if one of the players in the group host the server even, kind of like servers in fps.)

point is, if tera/other games that plan on using hit boxes, hit detection, where lag and shit matters, if they all need their own instanced worlds, or else, shit will hit the fan.
i mean look at 2d fighters online, it took a while for the netcoding on that to be good, and even now, the delay is noticeable. in a say 20vs20 pvp match in TERA or whatever, wouldn't it just fail majorly.

A guy showed me this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-54-tde0NY

It's old ass game, but I hope RO2 has fluid, fast action RPG combat like this. This looks awesome if you ask me.

>>5655041
That's because devs realized stats don't do anything when you can customize them. People will either min max according to the stats that most benefit their class or use set point-perfect builds.

RO2 the first at least TRIED to make all stats be viable for all classes.

>>5655091
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-t-e-r-a/700828
Tera actually looks good.

>>5655072
>>5655093
I know that in the ends, everyone's gonna have more or less the same build. But it gave the player more choices, your knight could be a str/vit/dex tank, agi/dex, or an hybrid.

>>5655091
>as in you won't see other groups or players trying to steal your kill

RO2 had better not fucking do this. Whining about kill stealing is worse than wordfilters in mmos. RO1. I am in a dungeon with a load of other people. I can kill your monster. I can take your drops. Random healers can raise me. RO2 better be the same. And have a shitload of item space and not that 2X8 box PAY MONEY FOR MORE SPACE that free MMOs have sometimes.

>>5655091
Problem with 2D fighters is it's usually P2P so you a person connects to another person. Thats shit because your interenet makes a bilion hops and on each one of them you could lag or get bad ping. So what they need is 3 servers. One asian one european one american to keep the game playable. If you have hitboxes ping below 100 is a must, if you get hitboxes it basically becomes a FPS. You NEED a central server that will give everyone on the continent you intend to play it on below 100 ping.

>>5655091
>in a say 20vs20 pvp match in TERA or whatever, wouldn't it just fail majorly.
I wonder how Aika's 1000 vs 1000 pvp is doing nowadays.

>>5655127
Yeah since RO2 is going to be F2P
>And have a shitload of item space and not that 2X8 box PAY MONEY FOR MORE SPACE that free MMOs have sometimes.
Is probably going to be in, you'll have to pay a monthly fee for the well normal things like unliminted or more space.

>>5655144
>one american
>central server
No. Servers are always in California, and they always are only good for California. America needs at least one on the west coast and one on the east for any MMO. Preferably one in the mid region too, but that's asking to much.

>>5655161
Okay, I don't care how they do it, just give me a server with below 100 ping and thats it.

>>5655080
yeah i stopped playing aion, after the 3rd month, mainly cause of university stuff. but i started playing again cause the new 1.9 patch came, and now everything is easy modo. all this double exp weekends and shit, but yeah, with a good guild and being level 50, and actually having a decent population of level 50s, make the pvps really good. i used to love RO for WoE, and the fort sieges at lvl 50 are just a good. of course not trying to convince you to play again or something, but i know there is this private server a few people i know play, and they say it's pretty good, free, whatevs.
i just like the fact, it's a lot of moving around, and not just standing there clicking spells.
http://video.mmosite.com/default.php?controller=resource&action=play&id=11181
there was a whole bunch of these added to youtube, but i can't seem to find them now, so i can't find the prime example one i'm trying to show you.

but yeah metin 2 looks interesting, anything else at all like that?

>>5655213
That on like x2 speed or something right because if it's like this now, then the game is too fast and I don't find that attractive at all. I don't see shit in that video, I can't tell whats happening.

>>5655254
nah that's regular speed. it's just highend
so everyones got the +19% attack speed weapons
+22% movespeed
also all the scrolls etc, that give speed boosts, like 30% movespeed, etc.
also, theres use of jumpshotting, which is using a skill in mid jump, so when you land it cancels the delay, cast animation.
basically all tourneyfag level stuff, which i love, i love having playing things with high skill ceiling
really old video actually, these days, it's a bit more faster with the better gear etc.
but yeah reason why you can't tell whats going on, is it's players not actually fighting, filming it. so yeah.

just thinking about it now, demon's souls online pvp, if anyones played it, the lag makes certain things impossible, like the quick counter attack thingo. looking at tera... makes that the combat seems completely... not possible too, unless everyones in the same room as the server

all this aion talk reminds me of the 3.0 bullshit.
never going to happen. too good to be true

>>5655319
I can only tourneyfag FPS and RTS since everything else has shit ping. No fighter players in Croatia or anything else...

>>5655362
since you bring up fighters..
any mmos that take into account juggling or combos, like chaining up hitstun
i know theres Dungeon Fighters... and that's about it,and dungeon fighter is more like a double dragon/final fight online than mmorpg.
games like super robot tensei or valkyrie profile combat would be awesome

>>5655409
Cabal Online was like that...

Well if it ever comes to the international market. And is F2P /jp/ will be all over it. For a week or so.