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Metafictional Writefag end etc. etc.

You should've seen it coming.

Okay so I just now read WH's translation of Ep 6 and I can confirm that fanfiction ending is true end and Umineko is the worst thing ever made by a human.

It's like you Umineko fags are trying to prove to everyone how shitty you are.

>my face when episode 6 is complete shit

Worm parasite thread?

I like how everyone has already an opinion of it even though it was released twenty minutes ago.

Did someone transcribe 07151129 in the same way? What are the numbers of syllables?

>>5614253
It was the same when spoilers came out. /jp/ is just full of whiny faggots.

>>5614253

/jp/ is full of speedreaders it seems.

>>5614195
>>5614223

*facepalm* if you read it further, you will understand that Hachijou part is only a highkjack of auau on Ange's memories.
The meta characters are definitely interacting with the stories they were given.

>>5614259
07151129
Reinaigoiiniku
I still think that Battler's idea that it's two dates is correct.

>>5614259
Ange-sama is back!?

>>5614267
No, this happened before she died.

>>5614313
And also after she died.

>>5614313
>>5614316
My head hurts...

.............

This can't be true...

>>5614343
Hint: more than one Ange.

>>5614363
More Ange-sama for all then!

Splendid...

>>5614391

If a worse costume is ever invented the universe will collapse into a singularity of suck.

>Fragments Beatrice has woven
All games are different kakeras.

>>5614411
You only have the right to criticize after you've earned a big ass medal like that.

>>5614424

It's her Worst Costume Award.

>>5614414
Being the exact same event in the same world was ...unlikely either way

>>5614253

>I like how everyone has already an opinion of it even though it was released twenty minutes ago.

We know how it read fast. Personally, i finish even VN's like FSN or Ever 17 in 2 hours or so. You can finish entire Umineko episode in about 15 minutes .

>>5614414
Tell me how to make game as pretty as it is for you.

>>5614426
Yeah, well I be you can't do any better you talentless fuck.

>>5614414

In other words, all these murders actually happened.

>>5614440
You do not have to DO better to know it is a fucking eyesore.

>>5614440
>>5614451

In this case "doing better" isn't even hard.

She'd look better if she was wearing a potato sack.

>>5614451
Yes you do, otherwise your opinion has no merit what so ever. How does it feel to be completely outdone and inferior to a fictional character?

>>5614438
In the patch folder make a text file ons.cfg and add window-width=X to it.

Is that so?

OP is a fag XD

>>5614481

Hey. Just got here too.

Way to make it obvious ryukishi.

/r/ torrent for Episode 6, I cant find it

>>5614472
Nice, thanks.

>>5614447
Not really, read carefully what she said.
Replace fragment with story and woven with written.
Beatrice is just the original author

>>5614487
I'M READY FOR PARASITE END

Seriously, fuck this.

>>5614487
AHAHAHAHA OH WOW.
Now hopefully the fags who keep denying ShKanontrice will shut the fuck up

lol'd

>>5614503
nah we won't. It's not true until it's said in red.

>>5614481
>>5614487
Best story ever told.

how do you get you game window so big?

>>5614527
In the patch folder make a text file ons.cfg and add window-width=1200 to it.

So... We're trash?

>>5614539
Thank you very much.

>>5614556
She's pissed because you don't understand Shkanontrice.

>>5614556
Of course, you keep talking about fragments, trolling witches, LOLHIGURASHI REFERENCE, etc... without trying to understand what Umineko is really about.

>>5614583
Well, one of the 1000 interpretations of what it is about will match whatever the author decides it is.

I'm grinning like an idiot. My mouth is making an unbelievable shape. I know I'll hate Umineko with passion when it ends, but just reading it like this so enjoyable.

This Hachijo Tohya and her pompous attitude makes me erect.

>>5614414
>>All games are different kakeras.
Look, the kind of retard Featherine hates.

>>5614510
lol

So, how are guys liking that fanfiction and ShKanontrice are getting confirmed?

>>5614607

You act like this is new information.

>>5614590
Seconding this. Is there any stuff with her being raped?

>>5614629
Yeah but now even the most retarded fanboys will have trouble denying it.

So, Ryu07 wants to be a big girl?

>>5614607
It's deception, not confirmation.

>>5614645
No, he wants to be a little girl.
A little blue loli, to be exact, that is why they are everywhere.
He just uses most of the characters as expy for his opinions.

>>5614645
Maybe he is a woman? Do we have any proof he's male?

>>5614654
YEAH BECAUSE R07 IS THE BEST WRITER EVER AND HE IS MAKING AN ENTIRE EPISODE JUST TO TROLL US.
Faggot.

>>5614660
Yes.
He is not a mystery like Ohbata or anything

I have all the files extracted to one archive, but Poweriso won't let me make all of them into one disc. What should I do?

>>5614665
I wouldn't put it past Ryukishi.

>>5614665
You don't need to shout I can hear you just well.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

>>5614670
Give me your so called proof then.

>>5614678
I would.
It's exactly what Hachijo is complaining about you know.
You guys don't even try to read what he wrote, you just expect trolling and bricks like idiots.

Which one is the split personality, again?

...hot.

>>5614692
Oh give me a break, Featherine is a smug bitch and you know it. She's just begging to be trolled.

>>5614691
>>5614691
Left

>>5614692
If Hachijo is the one who came with this personas bullshit, then the last thing I need is her respect.

>>5614697
Both. Shannon and Kanon are just personalities made by Sayo.

>>5614703
Could be just a guy who said he's Ryukishi. You can't be certain...

>>5614600
I only make a conclusion from what she said, idiot.

>>5614719
Not really, you just jumped at the word "kakera", read the whole fucking conversation again.

So, how do I install this thing?

>>5614715
Very, very unlikely.
If you start making silly assumptions, why not assume it is Nasu in disquise, who is Romeo in disguise who is a shapeshifting alien.

>>5614487
Of course! Sayo didn't do Umineko, it was her persona, Sir Tiddly Winks of La la la land!

>>5614487
>>5614481
Haha, what load of bullshit.

>>5614481
Translation: People can die without being killed.

Oh, that's great to know, wonderful writing Ryukushi.

>>5614730
Mount the EP6, run the installer and it'll take care of the rest.

Here I was thinking that the Shkanontrice people and the Fiction people were being all deep and such. No, Ryukushi just decided to make it that obvious.

>>5614767
Poweriso can't iso the whole file, so what do I do?

So, Shkanontrice/Fiction, have you figured it all out already? What is Battler's sin?

>>5614807
His sin is most likely forgetting a promise to Sayo, but fuck that whore.

Goddamn it, I am disappoint.

ummm... so the ep6 translation was released?
It's not on the witch-hunt site though.

I get the feeling I missed something this morning before getting up.

Of course it's on the witch hunt's site what are you blind?

http://witch-hunt.com/stage8.html

Get 'Other' patch.

>>5614700
Wincest or Masturbation?

>>5614807
It is confirmed near the end of ep6 that it's a promise to return to the island.

>>5614697
Wow, Shannon, way to be a bitch.

>>5614861
Well he did return. Oh, this is just stupid. Battler doesn't return, so Sayo kills everyone?

She had two other love interests, for christ's sake. Goddamn, how selfish could one be?

>>5614845
Man, their site has always been a bit convoluted to me.
They could at least update the progress listed if they're done with it.

Silly dumb ShKannontrice scum.

Now I understand why Shannon is voiced by Kugyu.

>>5614877
Don't you mean "smelly dumb shkannontrice scum"?

Thanks god he has called her 'personification of the rules' dozen times already. Maybe people will finally stop assume Beato is only a person.

Hauuu~

>>5614703
>So, Ryu07 wants to be a big girl?

You are now imagining au au lifting up her skirt and revealing that she has 7 inches between her legs.

>>5614919
Beatrice - Awesome
Sayo - Disgusting, dumb, murdering scum

Can we draw that line now?

I like Sayo bad or not.

Fucking cheese riddles, how do they work?

"If Onii-chan sinned in some way, it must have been something much lighter than murder, at the very least. If someone caused this huge massacre in retaliation for that, that's totally out of proportion."
"Even a sin so light that Battler might have forgotten could have been so serious to Beato that she hated him enough to massacre his whole family a full six years after the fact. ...Well, even I think that a bit excessive, and more importantly, if she were a person like that, I would find it hard to accept that Battler would act so friendly towards her after discovering the truth..."
Are you paying attention, /jp/?

>>5614945
I like Kanon. I can't say anything about the two other personas. Seriously. Oh, and the whole Kinzo rape thing loses its impact because one, it might not have even happened, and two, Kinzo was dead a year ago, meaning he was terminally ill long before that, meaning that Sayo won't even have much of a freudian excuse.

Goddamn it.

>>5614951
Doubletrice confirmed.
Not really, but Shkanontrice confirmed for being innocent.

I freaking hope.

>>5614945
But you have not even seen proper characterization

>>5614951
Virgilia confirmed that the culprit didn't do that for vengeance, pleasure or to cause fear, in red to boot.

So, killing everyone because Battler doesn't remember of her is sort of denied from the get go.

>>5614951
>>5614966
That's just mean that she isn't killing entirely because of the sin but for another reason.
But we knew this since fucking episode 5, pay attention.

>>5614951
Wow, that statement single handily destroys Shkanontrice, more or less.

I mean, she could be Beatrice, that's fine, she could be half the people on the island, but the whole murdering thing goes kaput.

>>5614985
Oh god the retard who can't fucking read is here.

>>5614991
I don't believe we've met.

But killing for an abstract reason is more or less the same as killing for revenge. Takano was killing to prove her grandfather right, yet she was seen as a villain.

the ending of episode 6 basically smash shkanon to bits. keep reading, folks.

How about you call it Yosayottler now?

>>5615003
No.
For example she could kill them because she believes finishing the ritual could make her a true witch.
Or because she think it's the only way she will get her love by getting all of them in the golden land.
Or because she wants them to find the bomb.

These have nothing to do with revenge.

>>5615007
Nothing smash ShKanon at the end, if anything it confirms it even harder.

Yeah, the only way to resolve a love triangle, Umineko-style.

>>5615068
It's more like... a love tetrahedron.

>>5615045
So, where does the whole "stuffing candy in peoples bodies" come into play?

Like, jesus christ, Sayo, that's not even in the epitagh.

>>5615076
Who says that Sayo did everything?

>>5615045
if you think about the number of people, perhaps.

However, the whole red about the logic error doesn't make sense with shkanon.
first, Beatrice confirms in red that -only- Battler, Erika and Kanon went in or out of the room.
By no mean you can include shannon/sayo, because it would mean they ENTER in the guest room, which is impossible. If kanon is a persona, so is shannon/sayo. Because of that, you cannot include shannon who would immediately be counted as one of the people who entered in that room.

>>5615076
That scene reeked of Rosa being batshit insane, just like the whole ep2.

If anyone had actually paid attention to the discussion about different personalities being different people, they would have realized that it was talking about upbringing and not DID.

>>5615076
It was maybe Rosa idea.
Everything in episode 2 was made to put Rosa in the "head" of the group, so by stuffing the bodies, the group would believe there is no way someone of the family would do something that cruel and let Rosa take the lead against the mysterious 19th person.

For the smashing heads in episode 1, it was an obvious hide the tree in the forest trick.

>>5615088
Second Battler, I choose you!

>>5615088
Umineko doesn't work that way.
Otherwise Shannon and Kanon would always die at the same time, they don't as it was shown in episode 2 and 4.

When one of the personality is in control, the others don't count.

>>5615093
This is what I was worried about with WitchHunt being faggots that actually think ShKanontrice is likely. Their translation stinks of bias.

>>5615088
The personality was not active, was it? Therefore it did not enter.
That way it is also possible for Shannon and Kanon to get in and out without entering or exiting.

>>5615091
More like you have absolutely no reading comprehension whatsoever and can't even get obvious foreshadowing.
It's not like Ryukishi was even trying to be subtle.

>>5615107
And you think the GF group would have let them?

So I have all the 9 parts, and I've seperate each of the 9 bits into seperate iso files. What do I do now?

>>5615110
You see this as foreshadowing only because you want it to be such. What you're purposing is insane. Look at posts around. A person can enter the room and then end up outside of the room without leaving it. Any story with these peronas is completely worthless. Of course we're denying it. You should too.

>>5615107
only chronotrig is favorable for that theory, while everyone else aren't

>>5615105
That doesn't make sense whatsoever.
So you are telling me that:
shannon conveniently switched the personality once inside? -kanon- was considered as a person in red. Being a person despite being a persona makes instantly shannon as a person as well. ergo, the fact beatrice confirmed that no one else was in that room pretty much smash any possibility for sayo to be in that room. Since Kanon doesn't exist, he must be outside of the room or dead. And if his personality is dead/switch off, that means shannon IS inside, going against beato's red

also, at some point in the narration, battler wanted to declare in red that Kanon was in the other room. It doesn't make sense for the narration that is from battler perspective to lie to himself. that means he could definitely declare kanon seperately in another room

Not really feeling it for Beato. She killed everyone so they could be happy? That's a typical Final Fantasy Villain's logic, ain't it?What the....

>>5615135
... And that's why Van Dine's in EP7.

>>5615135
No, you aren't seeing because you are both completely deluded and utterly retarded.
It's not even between seeing it or not, it's about having a brain or not.

Read what is written in the fucking game itself, try to see how it works, look at what R07 is trying to tell, it's not even subtle or deep or anything.

Shkanontrice, even if it's true, is absolutely stupid as the theory is commonly portrayed.

If it IS true, there's something large we're missing. There has to be, otherwise the premise of the story is absolute bullshit.

>>5615161
Most of the time people say it's stupid, the reason they give is something that isn't even a part of certain Shkanontrice theories that are already out there.

>>5615142
No, Battler wanted to say that Kanon was in the other room when he still believed the 6 first people who died were alive, basically he wanted to use them to create his closed room but Erika forced his hand and he had to use Kanon.

And it was never stated that there was no one else in the room, only that no one else entered or went out, not the same thing.

Also stop trying to create rules or whatever.

>>5615152
Leaving the insults behind, this is a bit of an issue.

If Kanon is a person despite being a persona, then Shannon would have to be too. Now, if Kanon were the only person besides Erika and Battler to enter or leave that room, while at the same time dying in that room, or something to that effect, we do have a bit of a problem that Shkanontrice can not even explain.

Of course, it is possible that....

Erika doesn't exist, Shkanontrice does exist, but we had that lovely lass, Jessica, enter in the room as well, if indeed she is the other Battler. That could potentially clear things up.

>>5615172
It doesn't say that Battler was going to say "Kanon's in here", it just said that Battler was surprised to hear Erika say "everyone". For all we know, he was expecting her to name off names and would then refuse to repeat that line.

I hate you all.
I'm closing this thread before I accidentally read something spoilerific, of which I know there is already plenty of in this thread.

>>5615172
the fact Shannon was in limbo, and suddenly was in control of the body pretty much fits with the "enter" definition, bro.
She was nowhere, then was in the room. That is what I call "enter" from that definition.

>>5615172
>>5615178

No, the narration specifically says "But he'd probably have been okay with saying Rudolf, Krauss, Genji, Gohda, Jessica, and Kanon are in the cousins room"

Very specifically. Even AFTER he said "Shannon is in the neighboring room"

>>5615152
Stop with personal attacks will you?

I don't care what r07 wants to say. There is a mystery. I want to solve it. There is a certain set of rules that solution must obey to. Not having people disappear and appear out of nowhere is one of them. There. Shkannontrice is -impossible- in my world. If in the end it's r07's solution then I didn't play the game.

>>5615177
It's because Kanon is both a title AND a persona.
This isn't a cop-out, since it's obvious. We've known from the beginning that Kanon was just a title used by someone with a different name. And we've known from the beginning that 'he' calls himself furniture. EP4 shows us what furniture really means. It's pretty damn obvious.

>>5615177
In Umineko, personality can switch and take control, when it does so the personality who is taken go to sleep and doesn't count anymore.
See Eva-Beatrice at the end of episode 3.

Stop trying to force your logic.

GUYS ITS MAGIC!1

BEATrICE EXISTS!!!

I AM TELLING THE TRUTH HERE!! LISTEN TO ME!!!

Shkanon exists.
Shkanon =/= Beatrice
Kyrie = culprit
(probably but not likely)Kyrie = Beatrice

If you don't see it now, you're beyond hopeless.

>>5615189
"The definition of going in or out refers to when someone crosses the boundary between the guest room and the area outside it."

This is in red, so your definition doesn't fit.

Kanon enters then switch to Shannon, there.
No problem with the red text, AT ALL.

will there be a stream some time today?

>>5615211
Yes, Beatrice was Battler's mother this whole time.

>>5615202
well, but Eva-trice is not a personality.

The whole fucking Eva-trice scene is magical hax. It's irrelevant. For all we know Eva-trice does not even exist.

It's like saying Lia is another personality of the old hag. No.

>>5615178
FFS, are we all reading the same game? picture related.

>>5615216
The problem isn't that Shannon was in the room, it's that Kanon wasn't.

Still, we can get around this. If someone actually saw a person who looked like Shannon, then the illusion of Kanon would be destroyed, along with the Kanon furniture.

>>5615222
I'm not talking about Eva-Beatrice herself.
Only what she said during her final red texts.
Here, if you got some reading comprehension, you should be able to understand this.

>>5615219
You can't create a moe version of your mother to act as your lover. Your theory is invalid.

>>5615226
Yeah, it says "Battler would probably have done X", not "I would have done X". It's the same in the original Japanese. This is a third-person observing (probably Beato) and trying to guess what's in Battler's head.

>>5615212
Are you dense?
If Shannon wasn't outside of it? where was she?

She came from Kanon then? But if that so, she ENTERED along with him.

Be logic please: the fact she is from nowhere basically means she wasn't in the bloody room. Thus, "phasing" from nowhere to the room fits the definition of crossing the boundary between the room and outside (outside isn't exclusively used for physical concept).

The only possibility is that someone was in the room before the logic error, which is impossible for anyone, let alone a personality.

Whatever. Here's hoping Sayo gets put in a nice rubber room at the end of this whole affair.

>>5615255
Thats terrible it would be better to kill her.

>>5615110
Jesus Christ, people. Yes, Shkanon is likely. Shkanontrice is utter bullshit. Shannon and Kanon are being used in this case to parallel what's going on with Beatrice.

I have trouble believing you can just leave a split personality behind in a portrait or whatever while you traipse around the mansion, doing a shitty job cleaning. Not to mention, the age given for Beato doesn't match Shannon or Kanon. Not by a year or something, but by three.

This all points to Beatrice being a similar existence as Kanon and Shannon, not that they are some bizarre unholy fusion.

>>5615250
If Shannon and Kanon are the same person, you don't need to count them twice. That's like saying Battler AND Ushiromiya both entered the room. Kanon is being used as a title here, and since we never knew his real name, it's fair game to have it be the same as Shannon's.

I would advise you to stop talking to >>5615250

Phasing, in, right. You are insane.

>>5615250
You are just trying to force your logic.
Entering in the room just mean crossing the boundary that is the door by the red text, that's all.

For example, if someone wanted to teleport in the room, it wouldn't have any problem with the red text.
That's all.

Shannon taking the control of the body also work.

>>5615260
By bizarre unholy fusion, you mean exactly the same thing Ryuukishi spent half of EP4 showing us with Ange?

>>5615260
ShKanontrice is the natural evolution of ShKanon that anyone who isn't completely dense would get.

>>5615259
Nah, she deserves it.
Kills people to make their dreams come true, what a joke.

Like, seriously. I can't buy that, she's an ingenius killer but she has possibly the dumbest motivation of all time?

Playing it right now and ShKanon is really, really obvious.
Like, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a red text confirming it by now.

>>5615281
If it's a religious belief, then it has nothing to do with craftiness or intelligence. Think suicide bombers.

"One can fit an eternity long enough to be deserving of the title 'one hundred year old witch' in a mere two weeks..."

Hello, subtle Higurashi reference.

>>5615293
I know, but it's just not enough for me. Sayo's failing me on the whole "making me think your murders were justified" meter.

Like, if anything, I dislike her even more now.

>>5615293

This is another issue people have with it, and it's addressed in Ep6 already, see:
>>5614951


Battler's development doesn't make sense if that's the case.

>>5615276
Not even close. Once you add Beatrice to the mixture, the entire thing becomes purely theoretical. There's no evidence, so people rely on guesswork and maybes, then pretend it's a done deal.

If Shkanontrice is true, why wouldn't we see both Shanon and Kanon have a negative reaction to Battler being on the island? The Beatrice personality would be a threat to both of them in regards to having someone else she's in love with, further splitting their chances. They never interact with Beato in any way that indicates that she could be a part of them. She is always separate.

R07 IS TRICKING YOU GUYS!!

SHKANON IS A BAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO FALL FOR IT!!

HE WILL CASUALLY REVEAL ITS MAGIC AFTER ALL NEXT EPISODE!!

>>5615308
It makes sense if he realized Beatrice did it FOR LOVE and to save them.
Suicide bombers also believe that they are doing the work of God for the greater good, same thing.

And by making sense, I mean in the crazy head of R07.

>>5615301
Well, odds are she was raised mostly on the island, raised by a crazy old man who believes in magic. For everyday life, it'd be ridiculous, but since we already have the backstory with Kinzo, it's hardly even surprising.

>>5615313
Both Shannon and Kanon see Beatrice as a superior existence.
Both of them were "made", most likely after Battler left so it's obvious that they wouldn't have any special feelings for Battler.

And it's confirmed in the monologue that the original, Sayo, pushed all her feelings for Battler onto Beatrice, so it makes sense that there is nothing left in Shannon and Kanon.

>>5615320

No it doesn't.

>>5615313

As much as I hate to admit, you're actually wrong. The fact that Shannon absorbs Kanon AND BEATRICE'S souls to 'become one person' in chapter 17 is pretty blatant. Plus, Zepar and Furfur's talks about how this is a very odd situation, because it's not three people fighting over one person, but rather three people fighting over three different people and yet none of them can have love without killing the other two...

It does all point to Shkanontrice.

I'm surprised that so many people are still trying to deny ShKanon, it's made pretty clear.

I still want someone to explain to me why Kanon exists.

>>5615333
>And it's confirmed in the monologue that the original, Sayo, pushed all her feelings for Battler onto Beatrice
Shannon existed before Beato was created. Please explain that.

>>5615352
To be Kinzo's bro.

>>5615357
Because Shannon was also a false personality. You think someone shaped like that could play the part of Kanon?

>>5615357
No Shannon, Sayo.
Though she was also called Shannon.
But it's not the same thing.

The original Sayo separated herself in 3, one part got her old name, one part became a dude and the final part got all the love she had for Battler.

>>5615352
Shannon is playing the part of new Beatrice.
Kinzo wants Beatrice to be head.
Shannon is a girl.
Head of the big Ushiromiya family must be man.

>>5615320
Sayo killing for love makes as much sense as Takano killing FOR SCIENCE.

Like, there is nothing noble about it.

>>5615371

Kinzo never said he wants Beatrice to be the head of the family.

And that is bum-fuck retarded.

>>5615371

That makes zero sense.

Thanks god ep. 7 is coming out soon.

>>5615379
Have you read EP1? He said it about 5 million times.

>>5615371
But, uh, Kinzo is the person who enacted that particular restriction with the sexes.

It makes... little to no sense for him to do that.

Course, it could have been Sayo who saw her friend's plight, and thus made a love interest for her, but I doubt that.

Kanon and Jessica's love seems to be very much an accident.

Oh my fucking god, Erika is a total bitch, just reading the Maria vs. Erika scene regarding the teacup candy

>>5615385

No he doesn't. I suggest YOU reread Ep1. All he ever says about Beatrice is 'I want to see your smiling face again, and then I'll make you mine!'

He says nothing about Beatrice becoming the head.

>>5615392
"I'll give back all my gold, my wealth, my fortune. I'll give you everything if you just show me your face one last time."
Sorry, but you're provably wrong here, my friend.

>>5615389

Maria's too old to be allowed to believe in fairy tales.

>>5615401

That's not saying he wants her to be head. He's just willing to give everything up to see her again.

>>5615401

Learn to read, he's just saying he's willing to give up everything to meet her again. He IMMEDIATELY after that says "And then I'll make you mine!"

>>5615386
And he did that because Japan was very sexist at the time. It'd be hard enough to get a kid accepted as a person in such authority, but a girl too? If you know your history, you'd realize that this would make a lot of sense for Kinzo. (And since he already tried to mold her into Beatrice, it's not so farfetched that he'd try to do the same thing again).

If you folks forgot, I set up page with full text of first five episodes. You can link other people to particular places them instead of just blindly asking "read EP1 again"

http://jbcs.info/Umineko/ep1.html
http://jbcs.info/Umineko/ep2.html
http://jbcs.info/Umineko/ep3.html
http://jbcs.info/Umineko/ep4.html
http://jbcs.info/Umineko/ep5.html

>>5615418
...
I'm guessing you've forgotten all the times he gave her the ring, or haven't realized that "giving her all of that back" would essentially mean making her the head.

>>5615385

Suggesting Kinzo actually said anything in EP 1.

>>5615425

That still doesn't explain Kanon if that's what you are trying to explain.

>>5615425

No it doesn't. It just means get rid of them, since she gave it to him.

Seriously, learn to read.

Oh yes, this is why I love Umineko.

There sure are a lot of pony theory vibes in this game

Why so bitter, Ryu07?

>>5615524
RAPE THAT MAID BATTLER
IT'S THE ONLY WAY

>>5615538
was this before or after his best friend died?

for the new translation patch you don't have to switch your settings right? Or do you still have to mount the iso file and all that stuff if you downloaded the game file?

>>5615375
People are forgetting that probably there is a real reason why she is killing people, she wants to be stopped and there is a FUCKING BOMB in the island.

Like a real mastermind behind her.

>>5615548
it has been a full year that BT died. Actually today is the first "anniversary" so to speak

>>5615364
>Because Shannon was also a false personality. You think someone shaped like that could play the part of Kanon?

Nothing wrong with her chest that a roll of duct tape won't fix.

>>5615552
I don't see it. Kinzo died a year ago, and the culprit's game plan revolves around Battler being present. Kinzo is the only dude crazy enough and nihlistic enough to want to kill everyone.

>>5615548
Was his "best friend" a woman, by any chance?

Because you know...

BT--->BeaToriche?

>>5615318
>HE WILL CASUALLY REVEAL ITS MAGIC AFTER ALL NEXT EPISODE!!

Seriously at this point I would almost be willing to accept that instead.

At least it's better than fucking fanfic end.

>>5615573
Or her cow tits are fake. Remember how Jessica stopped Battler from touching them?

>>5615583

AND NOW, TO DEVOTE MY LIFE TO OCCULT ARTS IN ORDER TO ONE DAY REVIVE THE GUY WHO UPDATED MY WEBSITE

>>5615439
"I'll return everything you have given me!`@` I am prepared to lose everything!!`@` So please, show me your smile just one more time..."
Of course, no Kinzo scenes are proof, but this is the fucking prologue of the game. It has to count as a possible hint.

>>5615583
Probably just a guy he was gay for.

>>5615589
Man, we're not discussing Jessica until we have to. I don't even want to put my brain through the gymnastics at this point.

>>5615583
I always thought that BT took the name from the chick in .Hack//SIGN.
http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/BT

torrent where
all i can find is a .zip, and the patch requires the actual iso

>>5615582
I think that is a bit soon to tell, EP7 will be interesting to see.

And well, maybe we will end seeing a physical representation of Lambda, who after all was the "man behind the man" during a good bunch of the saga...

Who's BT?

>>5615582
Kasumi?

>>5615652
R07 gay lover.

>>5615635
Try copying the contents of the fullsrc folder into the main folder, I did and the patch started working, though I haven't started reading yet and fear that the title page is all that works.

>>5615647
Inb4 EP7 reveals that Featherine = Hanyuu = Lambda.

>>5615652
R07's dead friend.

>>5615671
Who is, of course, Jessica.

>>5615657
Did you read yet? I'm having similiar issues myself.

Haha, r07 himself is not that much of an out-of-the-box thinker. Correct answer in that case would be 2. This is of course not on the level of Hempel's Ravens, but still.

>>5615722
Guess who George was all along, get ready for angry incest revelations

I was and always will be a writefag.

This pleases me.

>>5615722
So, what's this whole Jessica = The other Battler theory about? My friend told me that someone made a good theory here about it that explains Jessica's asthma.

>>5615803
You write bullshit too?

The Kanon, Shannon, George and Jessica scenes are so fucking boring.

>>5615816
He writes fanfiction. Thus, on the same level of Shkanontrice.

Or as I like to call it, "The less cool Kohaku route."

>>5615830
But Kohaku did not have split personalities.

>>5615831
Yes, but she was a maid who killed everyone for vag-

Nah, Kohaku's reasons made sense.

Somehow, George explains this exactly like in the image provided. It's almost scary if you compare the "Nice Guy" and George's explanation.

What's a good iso program that is not Poweriso? I need to play this, goddamn it.

>>5615856
Daemon tools

>>5615443
Half dead Erika crawling out from the sea made me lol

>>5615856
virtual clonedrive, daemon tools is shit

>>5615918
I meant a device that could make iso files.
The issue is that Poweriso can't do anything above 300 mb, and the files I have, when extracted, are like 2.5 gbs. Meaning if I want to install the damn patch, I gotta make the COMPLETE iso file, mount it, and then run the installer.

>>5615841
So.

This is an image attempting to troll with the truth, correct?

>>5615816

Well no. But I like the sloppy metafiction angle Ryu's going with the story.

Metaphorical writefag end ftw.

>>5615443
That's the most epic scene so far.

>>5615989
Worse than Stephen King.

>>5615989
Except oit makes teh story itself horrible.
Learn to write a decent story before attempting met-referential wanking

>>5615989
Meta stuff is ok, but if the story ends with everyone dead and Sayo in a rubber room I'm going to be unhappy.

>>5616041
Imagine this is the ending:

Sayo: Well, I killed everyone, but at least I've come to terms with it. Thank you... Battler.

I would rage.

>>5616049
I think we know Ryuukishi better than that. He did end this game with Featherine saying she'd write up the tale of a miracle someday.

>>5616065
The miracle will be Battler finally reunited with Ange, everyone else except for Sayo dead.

>>5616065
Yeah, but that begs the question... what the bloody hell are we getting?

In the reality of Umineko, did things end well? Because there is a reality to Umineko.

Eva did survive.... perhaps Jessica as well. Battler is dead, SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, AND EVA'S TO BLAME

SHE GIVES LOVE

A BAD NAME

But yeah, miracle or not, hm...

>>5616099
Umineko 3 is a fanfiction as well.
In the true version Eva did survive but nothing said that Battler was shot through the heart.

Hey, can someone .rar the English folder after installation and upload it? I have the game installed and the DVD in the drive, but the installer keeps crashing.

Thanks!

>>5616099
We don't know if the future where Ange survives is "the" future. Bern said that she had to search a distant kakera to find it.

Think about it. We don't know whether Eva really survived in EP3 or not, but most games end with everyone dying. If everyone dies, Ange inherits, the Sumadera family cashes in, and Ange's no longer needed. In other words, Bern couldn't even be able to find a future Ange unless Eva survives, and the 'distant kakera' makes it sound like that was a very low probability.

Only one knife exists.
There are no hidden cuts on the cheese.
The holes in the cheese are not large enough to be considered cuts.

In this EP, is said that once he reached the truth, Battler impression on Beato changed.

I doubt that even if she is killing because of love for him, Battler being the moralfag that he's will accept her that easily.

Probably there is something that we don't know yet.

>>5616041

There really isn't a good end that can be written. The only characters most people really care about aren't real. I don't really care about Sayo's issues or why she might have done something.

>>5616150
She was NOT given a pony

>>5616089
>>5616158

We'll get an Atonement end I'm sure. AuAu will write a happy ending and we'll be free to believe it or not.

I'm ok with this bullshit. Horrible taste I know. But I love a good trainwreck.

>>5615996

At least Ryukishi hasn't written his personal tragedies into his story.

Yet.

EP7 IS CENTERED AROUND BT'S DEATH. NO TRUTH. NO SOLUTION.

Hell yeah. Episode out.

Stream in 30 minutes!

The link is http://livestream.com/seacatsbgm

I'm gonna do an GMT+1 allnighter, so if you're in the area, prepare for some fun.

>>5616195

I thought he did that already with teh constant Beato dying

>>5615963
imgburn is a pretty good program

>>5616197
You should totally narrate the text out loud for the entirety of the stream.

>>5616212
Suit yourself. Last week was stream everyday, we had fun. If you don't wanna join, then don't.

See, I'm a fan of Kanon, Jessica, Gohda, Eva, Rosa, and of course Battler.

Yet I get a feeling that they are screwed for good.

>>5616283

You deserve a bad end for liking Jessica and Kanon

Shannon: "Is there some rule saying that people can't get together just because they weren't each other's first love...? Is it betrayal to forget the first person you fell in love with...? Love... isn't that simple."

Shannon didn't get the pony, but she moved on a long time ago.

>>5616320

But George is fat

What's the problem with coins? I don't get it.

>>5616320
She moved on by pushing all her feelings in her third personality.

>>5616347
Put one cup into another?

What game is this?

>>5616320
Shannon - Possibly the biggest whore ever.