/jp/ - Otaku Culture

d'awww Komachi thinks she is a tiger.

>>5571928
She fucks like one at least.

Are you guys checking Komachi artist's page every day now?

>>5571989
We like to watch warmly over him.

Yeah, okay, we're supporting him, that's fine.

Just stop circle-jerking everywhere.

/jp/ sure knows how to take everything way, way too far.

>>5571989
Yes of course. I have him bookmarked! Always give him a ten. I wonder if he knows that 75% of his views are from gaijins.

can someone post the link again? I didn't add him to my favourite in pixiv last time.

>>5572003
You will never understand. Normalfag!

>>5572012
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=311105

>>5572034
Calm down. He does have a point. We've been talking about this artist so much lately, it's kind of embarrassing.

>>5572081
Not the same guy.

Then, might I point you in the direction of my favorite artist, Charm?

http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/charm/menu.html

His penname isn't just for show. He carries it with full force.

He likes the dolljoints.

>>5572143
Does he have a pixiv account? I really hate trying to follow websites. The drawing looks good

>>5572166
He doesn't. I suggested it to him, but he said it was too much of a hassle.

>>5572143
>>5572190
Hey I remember you. It's been a while since you talked about your IM bro Charm.

He is one of my favorites as well.

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Original content in this thread: 0

I don't ever contribute, because when I do art it takes me a long time to make something good. I don't want to just post it up here so someone can say they made it next time an OC thread comes up. I'd want to savor it and keep it to myself.

>>5574853
Develop your own style so that everyone can recognize who you are.

>and programming.

for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
{
Messagebox.Show("I'm making original content!");
}

What do you think, everyone?

>>5574853
>>5574873
Or post your shit with a tripcode.

>>5574929
I love it.

Original content in this thread: 1 (sorry, expert programmer guy)

>>5574952
This is discrimination! Drawings are favored over code, just because they're drawings?!

>>5574873

How do I do this? I can imitate all styles, and can make an original drawing doing so, it just takes long as fuck. Whenever I don't try to imitate a style it looks incredibly ugly.

>>5575002
Practice, practice and practice. Don't just copy stuff, practice making stuff from scratch just with your ideas. Your own style, in any kind of art, is something you acquire naturally as long as you don't just copy everything.

>>5575002
>i can trace

I'm thinking about getting a doll and posing her differently so that I can learn to draw cute girls. Does anyone know which dolls have the best anatomy but still look cute?

>>5575202
Just use a 3D model

Does anyone ITT use a wacom tablet, or a tablet at the very least? I'm finding it difficult getting used to it. I have no problems controlling where it is on the screen, but I'm having so much trouble drawing smooth lines.

>>5575287

>>5575287
Just practice, the same happened to me, I even thought I would never be able to properly draw with it. Also, Wacoms are overrated

>>5575298
>Wacoms are overrated
Really i'm interested in getting a tablet can you reccomend some?

>>5575295
what?

how the hell do i get rid of hand jitter?
i am already at the second lowest sensitivity setting and lowest acceleration
even tracing simple art make my line look like shit

>>5575325
What software are you using?

>>5575333
for that one SAI
illustrator makes it easymodo by autofixing my jitteriness

I think I'll draw something this time.

>>5575343
Try using some smoothing 1-3 and pressure sensitive brush width. Try making faster traces, if you encounter a trace with lots of curves, section it, same if the trace is too long.

>>5575301
I don't have much experience since I just got mine not too long ago, but the cheaper Wacom Bamboo tablets should work just as well as any other one.

>>5575392
Yup, pretty much any with acceptable pressure levels should do for anyone.

>>5575325
a little jaggedness isn't so bad

I never like anything I draw. I keep finding little things I want to change.

>>5575325
Keep practicing. It takes time to get used to tablets. I suppose playing with the stabilizer settings could help a bit too (try drawing at, say, 6, then changing it to S-6 and observe the difference).

>>5574929
Good to see Sai's alive, it's been a while.

art is good! up.

>>5575696
>Willing to do anything for cheese

What a slut.

Nice drawing, thanks for your contribution.

For you, /jp/.

I felt bad about that last one.

>>5578847
Nice work, I like it.

>>5575178
Oh, please. Japanese art is ALL about picking an artist you like and copying him.

drawn on my bamboo fun. still have alot to learn though.

>>5578897
That explains why there's so many taka tony clones.

Motherfucker I draw on a Genius G-Pen.

d/ic/k here.
I just saw this on the front page.
All of these drawings are horrible.
Kill yourselves.

>>5578992
Post yours then, fag.

>>5578913
They are not OC, unless that Japanese artist is poking around on here. Doubtful. If he is, can you post an image on your Pixiv?

>>5578992
Meanwhile this is what /ic/ has to offer.

Fucking masterpiece.

>>5574929
I really like this artist's style

>>5579062
It looks like something you'd find in clipart on Word.

How do you guys come up with the dress designs? I can draw pretty good faces and hair(mediocre hands) but I can never come down with decent dress or body designs.

Is there a site that has after wearing such dresses that a drawing could be modeled after?

>>5579133
I usually just google around some dresses.
Also, going to /fa/ was a bad idea.

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>>5578992
Typical d/ic/k.

Note how he thinks that "kill yourself" is proper criticism.

I miss the days when /ic/ was good. ;_;

Writefag here. Finishing up Dandy Girl's side story, looking for something to keep myself busy. Anyone want me to do a short piece? I'm thinking of taking over that faggy LOL KILL MY GIRLFRIEND WHILE DRUNK project and making it cool.

>>5581051
Aren't you working on something for that Lycheesoft group of yours?

>>5581082

Yeah, but I mean something small and easy, like a short story with illustrations. To be frank, the artist for the recent Lycheesoft project has disappeared....

Who knows. God, I hope he didn't die or something.

>>5581051

>>side story

What's it about? I don't think that was ever really clarified.

>>5581094

Julie becomes trapped in post World War II France shortly after the events in "Dandy Girl," and later meets up with and befriends a woman who lives in Russia but is visiting France for the Summer. They keep in contact via letters, until one day the woman dies without Julie knowing and stops returning hers.

Julie's home burns down in France due to an unexplained accident, and she travels to Russia to meet up with the woman. She meets up with the Russian girl, Svetlana, who is the only one who speaks English. Svetlana doesn't have the heart to tell her, and lies to her mother, telling her Julie is just waiting for someone to take her home.

Sad Spoiler:

She got pneumonia on her way to Russia, and slowly gets sicker as the story progresses. She begins to get a fever, hallucinates and talks about Mark and her daughter (not canon). Then she dies. ;_;

I know that's probably going to piss a lot of people off. Oh well.

It's an alternate universe "Julie," anyway.

>>5581150

I'm actually looking forward to this.

>>5581150

Julie dies.

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.

>>5581161
>>5581182

Serious, shut the fuck up. This isn't Ryu-kun you're drooling over.

Idiots.

>>5581051
What happened to the jpproject forum anyway? Did it move?

>>5577909
can you draw Stalin and takano doing a evil laugh together?

>>5581536
The /jp/ Project forums have been dead for a few months. It doesn't look like red-Anon/Dandelion Girl Artist/Lantern Drawfriend is going to revive it, so consider the "/jp/ Project" to be dead.

>>5581618
I guess that's for the best. /jp/ projects should stay on /jp/, and not some php forums.

>>5581618
No I'm not going to revive it, and I'm not Mr 'Lantern Drawfriend'

japanese artist here, i drew another picture for you, i hope you like it desu \(^o^)/

up.

>>5581091
Maybe he disappeared after people pointed out his blatant plagiarism.

>>5581536
>>5581618
2ksite died, and the idiot who hosted it had no backups. The En Bloc project has moved to <fuck you 4chan stop blocking my URLs> , although we don't have one of the staff members (SHIKI Anon) on there yet (I tried to make a post to find him recently, but for some reason it got blocked and I got auto-banned). Other than that, the /jp/ project is dead.

>>5583547 was by me.
Found the reason the post got blocked and I got auto-banned; I can't post the URL, ffs. The URL is enbloc followed by a dot, followed by TK.

so just use url shortener...

take it easy

first tine trying out something in a /jp/original content thread.

>>5583744

It's cute! Thanks for your contribution.

Kureha One has enabled guest posting in the /jp/ section and they were using it for a now dead warehouse project, honestly everything mugen tries to join gets fucked up and dieing.

You're probably free to use it however you like, it says for /jp/ use right in the board description.

>>5584585
>honestly everything mugen tries to join gets fucked up and dieing.
Actually, Mugen has worked on multiple projects that have been completed. 4chan? The only VN projects they've completed are Katawa Shoujo (although 4chan now denies they're related to Four Leaf Studios) and The Dandelion Girl.

You can say a lot about Mugen, but not that he doesn't finish his projects. Every project /jp/ has ever tried to work on, on the other hand, has failed, the sole exception being The Dandelion Girl.

Makoto Kikuchi from the iDOLM@STER.
first time i've actually drawn a full body

>>5584885
My point still stands, anything mugen tried to get his hands into died soon after because of his fucking hurr you should do this because I said so shit and mugen can't even finish his own rabid shit that he advertises over and over again.

No one wants to fucking work with this pinoy scum, I mean just look at him, he and his fucking avatar posting shit. Everytime he tries to get into a project and start advertising renpy and shitty 3d models that suck balls and he conveniently forgets whatever the author wrote as a description and does his own shit and tries it force it on to the group, he can't even model buildings correctly, have you seen his warehouse models? They suck dick just like he does. He also apparently thinks that drawing droopy eyes is godly and does it to alot of characters which clearly shouldn't have it.

Why the fuck is mugen even mentioned in this thread?

>>5584914
No it doesn't. The project would die even without Mugen, and Mugen has finished projects in the past.

>>5584964
HMG is not a project it's so shitty it can't even be considered a doujin.

>>5584964
On his project page most of the projects aren't even his, and most of them aren't complete either, the ones that are complete barely has any of his involvment. Mugen just tries to get into as many things as possible for the slim chance that the project gets completed and that he gets mentioned in the credits, every single title on his project page is utter shit and a waste of the time I took to download them.

His newest involvement release was RE:Alistair++ which was has his shitty 3d backgrounds that don't match up to the character's artist coloring and style and screams for attention which is annoying when trying to read the damn text. That's the only title worth noting that has been released fully and has an amount of contribution from him that is actually worth mentioning. There is a fucking reason the industry avoids using 3d because it simply is just annoying and stands out.

http://vndb.org/v989
http://vndb.org/v1438
http://vndb.org/v1452
Mugen made the first two on his own, contributed art for the third one. Regardless of whether you like his work or not, you cannot deny that Mugenjohncel by himself has completed more projects than all of /jp/ combined.

>>5585259
And they all suck. He even put HIMSELF inside on, that's how full of himself he is.

>>5585259

Well, the first two aren't exactly things that look like they should be taken seriously, but for small parody projects, that's fair enough.

However, it does beg the question 'If he's capable of making these small ones, why the hell hasn't he at least started to come up with anything actually good?'

Currently in RF3 mood.

>>5585653
This looks really good if you actually did it.

dem flowers.

Currently working on Sophia. The middle one is actually revision since the pose/the angle the body is facing is too frontal it's boring.

Failed sketch.

This one too. Done and sorry for the dump.

>>5585653
>>5585643
>>5585779
>>5585772
>>5585768
Good to see someone with moderately decent drawing skills once in a while.

Rune factory friend, you have a pixiv i can follow?
i am a big fan of your work

>>5585867
I found this: http://raide.deviantart.com/

Too much CB.

>>5586203
get out ks dev

Requesting naked, chained up furniture Battler licking Dress Beatrice's feet.

>>5586203
ohh rune factory friend anda indonesia?

>>5585321
Because he's a terrible writer. He can get shit done, but he doesn't have the writing skills to make a good VN all by himself. And seeing as good writers seem almost non-existant in the OELVN community, this results in games that can't be called seriously good.

He just got bad taste.

Deleted the old one due to some errors I've spotted

>>5586367
the hell, you're a malay as well?

Somebody draw a tsundere Holland berating Germany for losing to Spain.
HOW COULD THOSE IDIOTS SCREW IT UP LIKE THAT ;_; we wanted an epic conclusion ;_;

>>5586346
Your waifu just wants to touch and feel you anon-kun ;_;

So many medleys and nonstops tonight.

Anyway paint-tan moe. Crazy artist elf voiced by Yui Horie do want.

Can it be Julie tiem now plz?

>>5587655

Sure, I'll have it.

Too bad she dies.

>>5586561
no, i just used google translate

>>5587674
>>Too bad she dies.

Julie~ <3

Not to suck the Lion's cock, but I'm looking forward to Side Story. There's going to be pics with it, right...?

Who?

>>5587730
>>/jp/
>>didn't play Dandy Girl

You didn't play Katawa Shoujo, either, right?

>>5587746
I don't play demos. Just like Delta

>>5587746
>Dandy Girl
>Katawa Shoujo

I'd never read a western VN. Take that shit to /a/.

>>5585643
>>5585653
>>5585665
>>5585672
>>5585679
>>5585691
>>5585728
>>5585752
>>5585768
>>5585772
>>5585779
When did this become a "dump random shit from deviantART/pixiv" thread?

And I doubt these are your pictures. You're probably the same guy who posted the japanese artist's art.

Working on a sculpt. If you can tell who this is then I have been successful.

>>5588581
Berserker?

>>5588581
Agent 47?

>>5587629
>>5587567
The fuck are you doing?

>>5589016
Being autistic.

I think I will start to create a Sigillum Aemeth bit by bit starting tomorrow..

>>5588581
Professor Xavier?

>>5588624
>>5588700
>>5589084
No, it's Superman.

>>5589378
it looks more like Lex Luthor, and I don't just mean the BALD

Night bump.

Original character do not steal.

>>5590721
Wow a catgirl maid. How original. Fuck you. I'm going to post this all over pixiv now!

>>5590721
Isn't that tiger?

>>5590721
so its shou/sakuya/yuuka?

>>5590721
Thought it was Shikieiki from the thumbnail

Original character do not steal.

Does everyone here draw with a tablet? I'm having problems getting used to a mouse. Not sure if my drawing talents are worth spending $100+ on a tablet

>>5591196
You can pick up a cheap one for about $50.

Remi gives Flandre a bath.

>>5591196
Not everyone is born with talent, but anyone can draw well if they put enough dedication and time into it and the first step is investing into a good tablet. I've drawn for years without a tablet, although much slower, you can honestly work without. Heck, my drawings were a lot cleaner and smoother actually when using just the mouse (photoshop pen tool) than now, and I have to say, they still are.

I can't draw anything because I think I have advanced ADD or something that pops up when I start drawing. I suddenly go full retard and start drawing random shit that makes my image look horrible simply because I can't seem to muster the patience to actually take my time and draw something properly. It's like a fucking anti-artistry disease or something. I usually end up making a bunch of fucking shitty scribbles and closing the paint program. Can anyone give me advice? I really want to draw something other than picasso lookalikes.

>>5592087
Hi, me. I just make music instead. Try that.

>>5592087
Flip horizontally and see if it helps, if not, save, and keep it safe. Try not to delete them if possible. I usually save up my work when I feel like junking it, then come back to it a month or two later. The reason I believe why we think our works sucks is because we know something is wrong but we can't put our fingers on it and gets frustrated. Over time, when you come back to it, it'll be obvious to you. Heck, I always salvage parts of my junk works and use for another project.

Draw what you like and do whatever to get yourself some motivation to move on, and don't get discouraged when other say things such as "oh you should learn proportion first before coloring etc etc". The whole experience of drawing is really depended on practice, and being scared/discouraged to draw is not a healthy way to start. Let me tell you right off the bat, like everyone else, you will suck, and you know it. Just keep trying, and one day you'll be a 3rd rate artist like me, then surpass me and be a 1st class artist.

/jp/ fanart.

I am a full-blown graphic designer and artist of 10 years experience.
I draw my style from ZUN's masterworks.
This thread cannot take it.

I am ZUN. I don't need to copy anyone. I am already top tier.

>>5592658
Holy shit, ZUN!bar can draw?

First time I post in one of the OC threads and probably the last time 'cause I'm pretty bad （￣へ￣）

>>5592818
Don't compliment him.
It will only encourage him to shitpost more on /jp/.

>>5592818
>ZUN!bar
No.

But those are some literally nice tits you drew.
I didn't get why azu3 wasn't spoilered while azu4 was, at first.

>>5592903
I think that's pretty good. You just need to learn more about joint locations and how to draw limbs. For example elbow is on the same level as navel (in this case the elbow is too low), shoulder can get more shape, the upper body can be less long (except if you're Oyari Ashito) and so on.

Scraggly lines don't matter as long as you get the shape right, and that one is pretty close.

no criticism for my gun weilding makoto? ;_;
I drew her the day before she got a new haircut, I have to say I prefer her old boyish-do.

>>5593080
For starter, have you flipped your picture horizontally yourself to see if you can spot your own problems? If so, you've missed that your character is 4 head tall (even short girls are 6-7 head tall at least), and is currently a monster with a super giant head.

>>5593080
I'll be direct.

It was too damn horrible, causing everyone to stay silent because they didn't just want to insult it. You know how to use your drawing tools, but you have no clue of how to draw.

I suggest you to take a different approach to drawing: Ignore coloring, ignore shadows, ignore all the fancy stuff.

Learn anatomy. Concentrate on the basics. Do simple line drawings. Sketch everything. Don't be afraid to draw lines that will later get hidden.

>>5584896
At the very least, provide link to your OC post. Geez.
>>5593080

why post oc here? people rarely even comment on the decent ones. it's like posting it for no reason.

>>5593413
I know this concept may be alien to you, but they're not posting them for the attention.

>>5593395
Gonna have to second this. Even if your character is going to be wearing fucking thick winter gear, draw the nude character, tits and all.

>>5593413
>>5593420
If they comment on a single picture, you know they were forced to look at every other picture in the thread, including yours.

>>5593420
why post them at all then? if no one cares enough to say anything about it? call it attention if you want... isn't that the point more or less? why post it if people skip over it and say nothing?

>>5593456
Because people like to see it, even if they are not say it all the time (like me).

>>5593456
>why post them at all?
To contribute to a content thread.
For some, to get criticism so they can improve.
It doesnt have to be about getting people to pay attention to you.

>>5593456
they post them so they can learn from others silently

>>5593080
My point in >>5593395 was something like this. I'm sorry I can't draw, but...

Imagine the pose and angle you want.
Draw a rough naked sketch first.
Then add clothes. Stick to form-fitting clothes if you can't get loose clothing look natural.

Drawing girls with guns is especially hard, with all the details that must go into the gun and hand. If you had girly little hands and the gun (or replica) you're drawing, that would help a lot.

>>5593080
i dont even know where to start

read a million how-to-draw guidebooks
draw a trillion pictures
learn at least something

>>5593744
>read a million how-to-draw guidebooks
Dear god no, "how to draw X" books are not the way to go.

Don't get me wrong, it's good to learn from reading, you'll learn about things you never would have thought of otherwise.

However, all this "what do I read to learn how to draw" is largely a bunch of crap.

The thing to do is draw, draw a thousand pictures. learn to criticize yourself openly and honestly. Train your eyes, find your faults, and work on them. No guidebook, reference, or system can teach you that (or compensate for it)

The hard part of drawing isn't so much learning how as it is burning through that first 150-or-so shitty drawings without burning yourself out and quitting via frustration, self-pity or (this is important) making excuses. I myself am an example of the latter, but what improvement I have made has only been made by burning through several drawings in a sitting.

>>5593753
I recommend fapping to lots of HCG sets, H-manga and H-anime, preferably with your dominant hand. It lets you subconsciously learn how anime anatomy works, plus it builds up your muscles.

Loomis. I don't care whether you're drawing anime or Western cartoons you would benefit greatly by reading all of Andrew Loomis' books:

http://www.filestube.com/search.html?q=andrew+loomis&select=All

Do not, I repeat, do not learn anatomy from anime and hentai. Loomis doesn't just teach anatomy- he also teaches everything else, like perspective, lines of action, posing, shading, lighting, building forms, creating interior scenes, exaggerating and comic drawing, clothes, shoes, furniture, etc. If you're serious but have been weaned on anime your whole life Loomis will help you immensely.

2nd post determines the female toho that will be the main focus of the Tou/x/hou picture. In the event that the post doesn't refer to anything toho-related, it will be Yama.

Progress is slow.

>>5594250

>>5595023

The picture has no depth and the hands are awkwardly posed, not to mention grotesquely large, but you show more potential then the average /jp/ mouth-breather. Take some figure drawing classes or look at this post:

>>5593973

>>5595096
>average /jp/ mouthbreather
You're mean ;_;

>>5595096
The artist here. I just noticed after posting and taking harder look at the WIP that the forearms have different length. Time to fix that with cut and paste, which isn't that complicated since all the colors are worked in one layer.

Haven't practiced much Loomis. It seems I can't avoid having the pic look flat at this point, but I'll try getting more reckless with shading for this one.

>>5595096
>average /jp/ mouthbreather
You're an asshole, not everyone is born with talent, stop insulting people who still learn.

>>5595142
Take it easy, you're doing a great job. Just keep in mind most people that complain can't draw/ain't qualified to judge.

The first thing I did when I woke up was to check Teragoya's art.. hm.. maybe I should stop

>>5595524

Not this shit again. You don't need to be a great artist to be a good judge. But as someone who can draw, I'm more than qualified.


>>5595236

Being an asshole is better than being an idiot like you. What, you think all great artists of the past popped out of the womb being able to produce great paintings and sculptures? The difference between them and the poor excuses of artists here is that the great artists of the past actually put in copious amounts of time and dedication and sweat to become capable, as opposed to watching anime and playing games all day and doodling some shit in Photoshop every once in a while.

This is 4chan, the last place on the internet where you can expect to be coddled and have your utter shit sugar-coated. Go back to Deviantart you worthless sack of shit.

Case fucking closed.

>>5595957
Dude!

I didn't follow this discussion and just read your post on the index, but... Dude!

Okay, just read what you replied to and your original post, and you are 100% on the money, if a bit angry/frustrated.

The good thing about these drawthreads on 4chan is that you (occassionally) actually get actual critique that can help you get better. On DA I have never gotten any kind of comment that didn't basically get down to "cute ^^".

>>5595236
You fucking loser, you have to be an asshole to succeed. If you aren't an asshole, you're probably one of those nice guys that never get anywhere in life. Kid, once you go into asshole mode, you'll get a whole lot more respect. It's pointless being "friendly."

>>5593973

Advice appreciated.
Any recommended order, or could I just pick them up in the order they show up on an arbitrary search engine?

>>5596408
Wait, I take back what I said, you basically called everyone who participates in these threads and doesn't produce pictures of >>5595023's quality worthless. You ARE an asshole. Go be a pro artist somewhere else (I bet you never even contributed to a drawthread).

>>5595957
you're right about the hard work vs. magical talent part and all that.
The thing is that nobody even requested a comment on his work, yet you went all autist on him.

>>5596444
Unless it has a great concept behind it, bad art IS worthless.

>>5596469
Please stay out of these threads, they are obviously beyond you.

>>5596425
Wow, get out of /jp/, normalfag.

>>5596453
His critique isn't really the problem, you should expect critique. The problem is he called everyone who is still learning a "mouthbreather". We don't need that kind of attitude on here.

>>5596469
You are a stupid person.

>>5596469
So practice is worthless, huh? Yeah, you'll get far with that attitude.

People, constructive criticism is a good thing, even if brought in a very negative manner. If we all go 'everybody's doing so good!', it's not going to help any of us.
You'll see that if you take this shit too far, the average quality will become terrible, as that's what is accepted.

For a great example, go check the Lemma Soft Forums. The works they produce are so terrible that most people have the notion that every single OELVN is shit. This is all because they keep praising eachother regardless of how shitty their so-called "art" is. If your work sucks, it sucks. Go improve so that your work will suck less. Keep improving until your work can truly be called 'art'.

>>5595957
I very much doubt you can draw if you consider drawings done as practice worthless.

>>5596492

Sure, we don't need it, but it's probably just as much a waste of time to call him out on it and start something like this.
As stated, this is 4chan, there's no cast-iron rule forcing people to be nice. Just ignore the offensive parts of his post and only care about things that are actually useful.

>>5596545
Yes and no. Yes, critique is good and people need to listen to it to improve. No, just because someone is not yet at the level to be called a good artist, you don't need someone standing next to you going "This is shit. Goddammit, you suck!" everytime you finish a picture.

>>5596561
As long as they tell you why it sucks, I don't see the problem. I'm not a drawfag (musician here), but the responses I've received on my work that were negative have been much more useful than the 'sounds nice', 'good', 'nice tune' responses.

>>5596586
Following negative responses is good until people start saying they liked your older work more. Then I don't know what the fuck.

>>5596586
Why does there need to be an extreme all the time? It's people just mindlessly praising, or it's someone giving critique coupled with a few insults and disparaging comments. Why? Is it impossible to give critique and just stay neutral?

I used to give critique in the manner I described, but being grouped with people like >>5595957 I stopped. If you give critique you automatically get labelled as an asshole because you're associated with people like him. And it makes people just ignore critique altogether making me pointing it out worthless and a waste of time.

Which all of this bullshit is anyway. Why would anyone even still bother uploading shit to these threads?

>>5596617
Ask them what they like more about your older work. I know I've dropped a lot of things over time, some of which I really need to re-use someday.

>>5596636
It's motivating to have a place to post your shit that people outside the art circlejerk will see. /jp/ is such a place.

This thread is now serious business.

Okay, I'll take one quick request to lighten up the mood.

>>5596636
>Why? Is it impossible to give critique and just stay neutral?
The moment you think 'I don't want to hurt this guy's feelings', your critique becomes less direct. You will become hesitant about whether you should mention X or not. If I try to be nice, I can't say that the timing for the drums is horribly off, or that that one ear-grating synth ruins the track.
It's not forbidden to mention the good parts of someone's work, but do not hesitate the slightest bit to point out the bad parts. The moment you try to be too nice, you stop pointing out the bad parts properly. If something sucks, just say it sucks.

>>5596675
Draw a tsundere Holland berating Germany for losing to Spain.

>>5596676
That's all well and good, but if the work sucks, you should not say that he sucks. That's the sort of thing people have problems with.

>>5596683
Well, you just shouldn't have problems with that. You just have to accept that, when you start out, you suck. It took me two years to become any decent as well.

Meido feeding japanese bird chips while nuking troll threads.

Take it easy guys! You are too tense!

Wow, what's with this huge fight here?

>>5596545
>>5596636
Critiques are only useful if they're "good" critique - straight to the problem. What >>5595957/>>5595096 this guy said was pretty good, but he added unnecessary harsh tone, making it a "bad" critique, dropping it to the same level as stuff like "i like it/i don't like it/this looks great/ this looks ugly". In short, critiques are always welcome, but you must know how to critique properly, and the proper way to do so is keeping things simple and direct

Posts like >>5595957 are better than good, they're essential. In fact it's great whenever there are people to mercilessly ridicule creative works of any kind.

Just because your work is shit that doesn't mean there wont be any people who like it. Negative experiences builds character. You either stay a whiny faggot or you learn to deal with it.

>>5596751
This is what assholes really believe.

"No, Thank You" Mio spraying bug spray on Dr. Worm while in this pose

>>5596770
And it's those assholes that work hard to keep on improving, and eventually produce great art.

this is the first thing i have traced that doesn't look like utter shit
i am satisfied, breakfast time.

>>5596787
Now you're just trolling.

>>5584885
> The only VN projects they've completed are Katawa Shoujo

> Katawa Shoujo
> completed

>>5596845
Touché.

>>5596751 Negative experiences builds character

> he thinks noun/verb plural agreement in English is logical

>>5596925
In what way is that error logical? I'm a native speaker and I simply don't notice shit like that; could you please inform me?

>>5596957
>experiences builds
Doesn't work that way, should be "experiences build".
For people who are not native speakers, just pull out the adjectives, direct objects, prepositional phrases and indirect objects. Shit helps a lot, especially when writing longer sentences.

>>5596676
>The moment you think 'I don't want to hurt this guy's feelings', your critique becomes less direct. You will become hesitant about whether you should mention X or not. If I try to be nice, I can't say that the timing for the drums is horribly off, or that that one ear-grating synth ruins the track.
I'm sorry, but if you have problems doing that you have some issues. I have no trouble at all pointing out everything that's wrong with a piece of art (that I can find) and staying completely neutral. This sounds more like something you personally cannot do.

>>5596742

I-It's not like I uploaded my art because of you /jp/. Don't get any weird ideas! I-It was just an accident!

>>5596751
>>5596787
Next time you post something like this, I want to see it coupled with one of your works. Yeah yeah, I know you'll cry it doesn't matter how good you are - that's not the point. If you get to make fun of people, we get to make fun of you.

>>5597102
kawaii! ^^; ehehe~

>>5596785
>>"No, Thank You" Mio spraying bug spray on Dr. Worm while in this pose

That's mean, Sion!

>>5596545
Not always. Don't insult the person when giving art/music criticism. Doing so will only ruin any credibility and simply make you seem like some bitter art college dropout from /ic/.

Anyways the guy who started this is obviously from another board, and he's still in troll mode. I'd say it's safe to ignore him.

>>5597182
ZUN!!! You are doctor worm, I knew it!!!

Keep your hard work!

>>5597204
Nope I am just a fan.

Especially when Dr. Worm is paired with his host Saten; he lives in her intestinal wall.

>>5596787 here (not >>5596751 )
http://tindeck.com/listen/wksl
I'm still an amateur, but I've become a hell of a lot better than I was two years ago.
I already know the drums are a bit repetitive and it takes too long to get to the good parts, and that at the climax the part that's higher makes the rest of the climax less interesting, and that it's a bit boring after the climax.
Now you point out stuff other than the things I just mentioned or 'I just don't like it'.

Oh, is this /ic/ again? Keep the meta out, guys, it's boring. Take it easy.

If I want constructive criticism I just ask other drawfags. Don't forget to return the favor later.

Anyway, my shoulder hurts just from polishing this shit. Better finish this tomorrow and move to next piece.

/jp/ you are so cruel with me.

>>5596742

Moar meido plz

>>5597702
Thank you.

>>5597392
I'm not a musician so this is probably useless to you. The high pitched noise you use throughout fit the beginning and end, but it doesn't seem like it fits well enough to be playing through the entire damn middle when you have other stuff going on (it pierces through EVERYTHING). Maybe have it drop out and come back in when it does fit?

>>5596742
I love when people draw the bird.

>>5597392
No the drums are written pretty well. That snare needs something though. Maybe a slight boost at 200Hz for more boom?

Lately I've been finding the charts here helpful (especially guidelines 4 and 5):

http://www.recordingwebsite.com/articles/eqprimer.php

Here's a quick guide on how to deal with "overly negative critique":

-Try to improve on what's mentioned in the critique, pay attention to any useful info
-Ignore anything you consider rude and useless.
This is the internet, people love to say harsh things.
Don't get your panties in a knot over it.
-Thank the anon for helping you improve your art~

>>5597766
People need to stop loving saying harsh things then, faggots. That is a serious personal flaw and you shouldn't be able to get away with it just because this is "the Internet"

Here's a quick guide on how to deal with "overly negative critique":

Deal with it. Take it into consideration if you think it's useful, but don't get into an argument with the critic.

Don't thank anyone either because you're afraid of looking butthurt over the criticism. Just don't say anything.

>>5597725
Yeah some EQ cuts here and there on the synths during the middle section might make stuff clearer. They all seem to share a lot. Or maybe even some different panning would work.

The high pitched noise is pretty cool. I think that one synth which comes in at 4:41 just needs a cut on the highs, then things might be clearer to hear.

>>5597781
Well said. People in an eternal state of mad should not be taken seriously anyways.

>>5597408
I wanted to say that I really like how this looks.
It's beautiful, please share once finished.

>>5597781
I agree with you, but if the world was that simple it'd be a utopia already.

>>5597781

This is the reason I hate this society. "I don't like mean people so from now on I declare that mean people have "serious personal flaws." *Crosses arms and pouts lips*

Oh, and let's make sure nobody can say racist things. Or sexist. Or ageist. Or offensive to fat people. Or offensive to skinny people. Or this or that.

And if a kid so much as says food is "spicy" they are IGNORANT RACIST BASTARDS WHO DESERVE TO DIE DIE DIE!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist-say-report.html

>>5597793
good advice, it's what I usually do

>>5598061
It's the law of life, nothing can maintain a permanent state. To imply that people can only be nice would imply that niceties could scale infinitely or mankind would die out in apathetic bliss.

Utopia would be the death of creativity.

>well on 80% of the thread is content-less arguing

Hell, every last one.

Guess who.

>>5598591
Your point? If drawfags put as much effort into their work than arguing and back patting in these threads there would be more original content and less meta-posting.

>>5598612
Half the people arguing aren't drawfags. At least.

>>5598599
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa??

I'm working on a card game, it's half way done, but needs cards, so if you guys want a card send artwork/card ideas to my email.

>>5599055
>meme cards

>>5599055
It might be best if you'd explain the rules of the game first, so we know what kind of stuff we should suggest.

Also, if you have many abilities on one card, you might want to use the Magic: the Gathering style, see picture - don't use 'also, also, also', just put the abilities on different lines.

>>5599067
Like I said, I need ideas.

This thing's been through quite a few iterations. On one of the more recent ones I realized that with current technologies it's actually quite easy to make a full fledged game with computer enforced rules and proper chain/stacks and user made cards and in 3d.

>>5599158
Wow, an almost viable Giant Blue Sea Monster.

>>5599199
Almost viable? Once you have this on the field, most of your opponent's creatures won't be able to attack you anymore, and it's a 8/8 unblockable for 8. Play it together with green to search it and drop it without paying its mana cost, and you've got a powerful creature.

In fucking BLUE. Fuck you, WotC.

>>5599323
There is M11 already!?

>>5596742
>>5597408
Best pictures in this thread.

>>5599158
It's half way between yugioh and magic the gathering. Nothing's set in stone yet.

- No phases. Draw a card at start of turn, then go crazy.

- Only one type of mana, you get 1 at the end of turn only if you have 0. Mana is used for summons/spells/abilities if the card states it as a cost, like MTG.

- Battles are yugioh style, you can choose who to attack, and attack value is used if both cards are in attack position to determine winner.

- Cards can be placed anywhere on the field provided they don't overlap too much. Overlapping cards are "connected" to each other, which may trigger effects depending on the cards.

>>5599199
>>5599323
/tg/ is that way --->>

>>5599323
dies to [creature removal of your choice].

>>5599394
Counterspell.

MIDI Metal Making Man here. I decided to open up Guitar Pro and shit all over it for a few hours and turn my second unfinished song into a finished one. I think I'm going to cut out the ~50 second intro and leave it as an interlude song or something.

Anyways, http://tindeck.com/listen/crpd

>>5597392
I really enjoyed this. You're right about it taking a little long to get to the climax, but I don't think the drums need much to make it interesting. Maybe a different fill every few bars or so, but really as it stands, it's quite nicely written.

I should look into getting some better programs for writing and creating music, instead of being lazy and dealing with MIDI. Oh well, one day maybe.

>>5600531
I forgot I added an extremely long and pretentious song name, so you know it's good.

makotofag here
thank you for your comments, negative critiscm IS a good thing. How do you people expect people to learn and get better at things if people don't tell you what is wrong?

Someone draw Remilia Scarlet fingering Hong Meiling while BOOF plays a banjo from a distance

>>5601205
Who the fuck is BOOF?

>>5601205
Oh, and BOOF is being pulled away by Meido.

>>5601383
BOOF made BANJO FINGER POWERHOUSE

>>5600590
part of learning to draw is to train your eye enough so you don't need to be told what's wrong with it. That's the most reliable way of making good drawings, otherwise you're just guessing the whole time.

If anyone's taking requests, I'd like the Librarian wearing Patchouli's hat and dress.

/r/ Kurosawa playing with Cirno

>>5600531

If anyone is up for another collaboration I'd like to play bass on this song too.

>>5601738
Seconded. What should they do together?

>>5602162

Forgot to mention, could you provide the guitar pro file?

>>5602179
Sure thing.

http://www.mediafire.com/?yljqjzyetex

anyone have an old wacom tablet? is there anything cool i can download to make it cool? like advanced options and stuff? i got the normal software/drivers that comes off the website, but it doesn't give me many options. i use an old graphire3.

>>5599371
What about defense position? How do you players lose the game, do they have life points? Are there only two players, or can there be more players? What are the standards for attack power (and defense power, if the cards have one), and mana cost? Is there something like instants/sorceries/spells/traps? Anything like artifacts/enchantment/continuous cards? How powerful can cards be for the game balance? Is 'destroy target creature with ATK under 500' okay? 'Destroy target creature'? 'Destroy all creatures'? 'Destroy all creatures you don't control'? 'Destroy all creatures you don't control, your opponent can't play spells for the next two turns'? How powerful is mana acceleration? How much damage can we reasonably deal per mana/card? How powerful is card advantage? Card discarding? Returning things from the graveyard to play (depending on the game, this, in any form, could be game-breaking)?

Also, post some example cards.

>>5602601
Also, do the cards need a special theme, or is it just 'anything goes'?

Bump.

pardon my beginner's sketches

>>5604096
Somehow it looks like shes crying. Since you can see the silly eyes layer below.

>>5585019
>>5585259
>>5585272
>>5585321
>>5587567
>>5587596
>>5587629
Meido, clean up this thread please.

Please exscuse my ugly art i just wanted to try something other than sprites.

Work's done. Outlineless is such a hassle since without guideline you're forced to recheck and polish over and over again. I can't waste more hours just on this single piece so it's time to move on.

Deleted some of my older posts just to see if it can make the thread bump once more.

>>5605964
That is really nice

>>5605964
Work on the mouth and nose.(but it's nice.)

>>5606008
That looks great!

>>5606008
Can you re-add the outlines? Maybe I'm not used to outlineless, but I think it'd look better with it.

>>5606573
Nope, too lazy. The task will be complex and the result might not even be good.

>>5606627
Ah well, are you interested in doing some collaboration? I really like your coloring style.

BUMP

Someone in previous threads wanted a drawing of Hina and Suwako.

Probably not what was expected, but it was fun.

>>5609638
N-not bad at all, especially the Chucky expressions. ;__;

Does anyone seem to have any problems with their browser loading images on pixiv?

For about a day already, I wasn't able to check any new submissions.

>>5610475
It has been working fine for me

>>5610566
All my computers are having this problem.

Must be my shit connection. Though, no other sites are having this problem, just pixiv.

>>5610475
>Does anyone seem to have any problems with their browser loading images on pixiv?
Nope. But Pixiv does keep logging me out even though I tell it to remember.

>>5609638
If there was something that I would improve next, it would be the postures. Suwako's arms sticking tightly to her sides looks a bit awkward with her facial expression and Hina's posture doesn't seem to serve any particular purpose. Also, seemingly huge left shoulder area (from Hina's left).

Other than that, I like! I appreciate the high contrast coloring and the concept in general.

>>5606008
I usually hate lineart-less anime art, but yours looks awesome. Good job.

bump

I'd participate, but I don' t think I'm any good at computer generated art... And I don't know if MS Paint suffices, but that's all I really have..
Well, I also have GIMP, but it's kinda fucked up and I guess that's not really a drawing-type application exactly..

Hmm.. Well, I might as well ask, what do you all use to draw computer generated images?
...T-they are computer generated right?..

>>5613109
First I draw a sketch with a pencil, then finish it in Photoshop or openCanvas.

Anonymous delivers as per 'requested' in the previous thread: Tou/x/hou - Eirin

Remember kids, I don't repost my shit, so watch out for my doppelgangers.

>>5613316
Oh fuck, it was from this thread: >>5595047

>>5613316
Bravo.

so with this being there, can i request some drawfag to draw erika pleasuring herself with chopsticks and saying what she says on the screenshot?

>>5615740
You want text to fill up half the screen?

>>5616268
Some sort of Lily and Vita love-child?

>>5616764
no, just the "chopsticks, chopsticks, haah haah!!" thing.

I think i'll color this...

I'll take one quick request.

I finally have a working scanner. No, I can't resize it.

>>5617792
Chen wearing a kimono?

If anyone's taking, I'd like to request the AT bot as a little robot girl wearing rags and advertising AT with a megaphone, with tears in her eyes.

Her abusive father/creator forces her to do it and beats her if enough people don't visit his site. Her speech algorithm is damaged due to repeated beatings, so she can only speak in garbled, random letters. Now barely sentient, she only remembers the consequences of failing to attract enough people, and shouts nonsense into her megaphone while crying as no one takes heed or even understands her.

>>5617927

AT as in Ar Tonelico?

>>5617952
the other at ran by kimmo.

>>5617927
Mei Mei?

>>5617927
I... that...

;_;

>>5617927
>AT bot as a little robot girl
If you can get me some reference, I might do it

>>5618626
There is no reference. You have to make up your own original design that will somehow portray the ATalk spam bot as a little girl.

>>5618656
Ah, I'm so slow today. I didn't realize what AT was, even after you said kimmo. I'll see what I can do.

☢!!CAUTION!!☢

>>5617927

>>5619102

;_;

I imagined the AT bot handing leaflets on the streets rather than using a megaphone

Bump limit

>>5619182
Oh god

>>5619182
I think it might be more fitting for the AT bot to scribble her loopy nonsense on the walls in blood over and over and over again Of course, it's slightly different each time..

>>5617927
Goddamn, you are such a bastard anon

>>5619102
>>5619182
>>5620176

I feel bad now for ignoring the ATbot...

Since moving out of your parent's house a few years ago in the derelict countryside, you've found a place to stay in the city. You stay in a fairly cheap apartment complex and you spend most of the time in your own room, not even bothering to know your neighbours. You haven't found a job yet and you've dropped out of school, a typical NEET leeching off the work of others and doing nothing to contribute to society.

In the start you lived quite happily here, undisturbed by others and enjoying every day by yourself and your pet Japanese bird. However, about a year ago, the apartment complex was expanded and many new residents moved in. They are fairly noisy and cause quite a ruckus, but you ignore it and try to take it easy.