/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>5438157
Actually, nevermind, that seems to be because I had already inserted text (since it's fine in the rar you posted). I should have done a clean installation of the game, my bad.

>>5438183
AoRF, would it be possible for you to allow a command line argument for your tools that would make it extract ALL text, not just any Japanese text? It probably won't be an issue unless the tools change again (so don't worry about it unless they do), but it would save me a lot of time.

Also, all of the files that were uploaded to TLWiki should be updated now (and most of them have new additions, so they will need to be gone over again). I also plan to have a few more scripts posted tonight.

Hooray for dedicated Anons.
>>5438515

Please don't sage your posts. The chances of this thread been pushed off the board are big.

MUSUMAKER. Translate Musumaker you morons.
This board sucks so much.

>>5438813

You can always leave the board.

>>5438833
And you can fuck yourself.

M - U - S- U - M - A - K - E - R

>>5438813
Musumaker is shitty. Sure, its fun expanding an orphans ass to prepare her for selling for hard S play the first 4 times when you get new CG, and I can't deny that her being bound completely immobile to a bed whilst wearing a school swimsuit and having vibrators attached to everywhere remotely sensitive isn't erotic, but once you've gone through the same scene 20 times to raise their stats it gets tedious. I dropped it less than half a year (game time) in.

Musu is the superior game in every aspect and some work has been done already. So why start a new LOL /jp/ project for a game that's 3 years older and inferior in art, quality and gameplay?

Just look how disgusting PM5 looks ...

>Bawww, translate the game I want, guys!

>>5438871

Why don't you shut the fuck up and let people translate what they want to translate. Whiny Bitch.

>>5438871 Musu is the superior game
No, it's not. It's shit.
I don't mind your shit taste, but don't whine about it here.

>>5438849

u mad
>>5438871

Opinons, opinions. /jp/ is not your personal translator, and no one here has to do anything.

Are you, by any chance, one of the guys who worked on musumaker? That's the only reason I can think of for someone to be so butthurt about something that doesn't have anything to do with him.

>>5438813
>>5438849
>>5438871
Write tools, find translator, shut up, get out.

You are morons. /jp/ was in love with Musumaker so fucking finish the translation instead of starting some silly project of a shitty game whose translation will never be finished in the first place.

Actually, this is an order.

>>5438154
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>>5439083

Why don't you just make a seperate thread and beg for you musumaker translation there? fucking moron

>>5439083
Learn Japanese you tool.

What the hell guys, why do you want Musumaker so bad? Sure, it has loli porn, but the "gameplay" itself is really bad and repetive.
Christ, you're like fags whining for Gore Screaming Show translation.

>>5439237
Pretty sure it's just one person posting over and over. >>5439083
>/jp/ was in love with Musumaker
/jp/ wasn't in love with it. It was flavour of the month when it was released, and part of that popularity was down to Musume to Gohan with it. Popularity quickly faded when many found it got repetitive.

Okaaaaaaaay, guys, we are disorganized ENOUGH already without the thread being a shitstorm, this isn't helping. A couple of moronic posts cause less disorder than the twenty or so "shut up" comments, so just ignore him.

Going through everything so far, there's the issue of how to do her fumbled greeting in ee000.txt... gah, I suck at theee.

EVERYONE, YOU CAN HELP HERE, WE NEED ENGLISH-SPEAKING DUMBASSES WITH NO COMEDIC SKILL WHATSOEVER.

She is introducing herself during her first day at school and fumbles while saying "Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu", and instead says "Yoroshiku OnegaishiMAMMOSU" (Mammosu=Mammoth").

Really shitty joke. We'd need an equally shitty way of fumbling "Nice to meet you". Preferably not "Nice to meat you", there's not supposed to be innuendo there and that one's old as fuck.

>>5439538
Ice to meet you

>>5439596
Okay, okay, not THAT shitty. Joel Schumacher shitty is too shitty no matter what.

>>5439626
Ice to meat ewe.

>>5439678

>>5439538
Nice to feet you?
Nice to eat you
Nice to meatYOURE
Ice to meat you.

>>5439538
"Nice to meet yew"?

>>5439538

Sorryt, all I can think of is "Nice to meat you". She doesn't need to understand what she's saying. Besides, if there is a comical reaction then shouldn't it be fine?

>>5439971
But that would be pronounced the same weigh.

Nye see to meet you?

Kind of tricky. I mean with that "nice to meet you" the only real words that make sense to slip up on are 'nice' and 'meet' I think.

'Nice' could slice to 'rice' I guess or maybe 'lice'... meet to 'meat' or 'neet'?

FUCK YEAH! Princess Maker 5 by 2013!

>>5438515
Sorry to bother you again AoRF, but there seem to be some more issues.

First off, the first line of some scripts (inpcube.txt included) is not being inserted correctly. Second, any insertion of ee000.txt is causing a crash (atleast in Win7) on the third line in the script. I've even replaced the translated version with the original script, but it still crashes (albeit, there's still quite a possibility that I'm the one who's screwing up. Going to do a clean install again, and then try inserting only that file. I'll get back to you on it.)

Finally, would it be possible to change it so that there is not a linebreak at the end of every segment of text (for sentences that span multiple lines)? In some places it works fine, but in others it causes a huge waste of space and potentially forces text off the bottom of the text block. This is something we can work around if need be, but it would be great if we could keep the text wrapping in text while taking out the mandatory line break.


Also:
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ef016.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eq000.txt

>Linking to the maxed thread that will be dead in minutes and not the easymodo thread
Oh shit nigger, what are you doing.

>>5439752
I actually like "eat". It's got the right combination of similar sound, groan-inducing badness, "not done a million times before" and sufficiently obviously different from "meet" so as not to span a billion "Shitty translator fucked up herp derp" screenshot threads.

>>5440216
Looked over.

I have a bit of an issue with what Cube is saying over lines f7, 11e and 126 of eq000.txt. There's nothing wrong with translation, and is possibly a problem that'd be traced back to the writer, but Cube makes a bit of a cultural mistake here, there's nothing more "civilized" about saying housekeeper instead of butler. Given Cube's world, how about translating 執事 as "steward" just this time? It's a sufficiently obsolete term to warrant his comment while still talking about the same role.

>The new version of the tools seem to break some files (see inpcube.txt - it only generates about 19 lines, whereas the previous version got around 290.)
>Second, any insertion of ee000.txt is causing a crash (atleast in Win7) on the third line in the script. I've even replaced the translated version with the original script, but it still crashes
>all this from hacked-together "tools" that are bigger than the WHOLE GODDAMN GAME ENGINE ITSELF

>>5441104
Do you have an alternative? Are you capable and, far more importantly, willing to do better? Are you involved in the project in any shape or form? Are you being affected by the quality of these tools in any conceivable way? Do you have any intention of doing anything at all?

No? THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP, why do you even care? Do you just go around the net looking at homebrew software you are not even using and complain about it in unspecific meaningless terms without any intention of helping? Is that what you do? Why? Is your self-confidence and/or dick so minuscle that complaining about random programming makes you feel better? Let's repeat that, complaining about PROGRAMMING is what you're doing to feel superior. That's so incredibly geeky, you'd probably emanate an aura that isntantly reinstates the male virginities of any guys in a hundred meter radius.

>>5441332
The imbecile is most definitely not looking at the program in any way. The first "problem" he quoted was our translator messing up during insertion, and the tool weights less than 14 MB. He's not even downloaded the tool let alone looked at the actual program in any way. Ignore him.

>>5441332

Easy there, friend. Let's keep our cool and ignore the trolls or who doesn't want the project to prosper.

>>5441332
Someone didn't read their SICP today.

>>5440216
Okay, the crash problem was something on my end, but the first line on some scripts not being inserted appears to be something with the tools.

Anyways,
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/freed.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc4000.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/frees.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/freew.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/jiyuu.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eq050.txt

>>5441914
Uh, do you mind if I just edit some minor things in the translation?

>>5442404
Go for it.

>>5442404
># (I'm assuming this is what you meant with the last translation)
That line actually refers to the homework that students are given over summer break. In one of the other files, there is a part that mentions doing the homework that students are given over winter break. Sorry for wording it poorly.

>>5441914

Who is that fairy on her shoulder? It's so cute!

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>>5444466
What fairy? If you mean the girl near her shoulder, it's her. Unlike the previous Princess Makers, you can see your daughter doing stuff in her room.

If you mouse over her doing things it will give a description of what she's doing, this is important to figure out her hobbies so you know what she'd like for her birthday or Christmas.

Oddly she only cares what you, her parent, gets her on her birthday. She'll love anything from a friend.

>>5444611
That slut.

>>5444611

Awesome.

Hey if someone has the torrent of PM2 Refine, could they seed? I'm at like 99.7% but all the seeders died and I can't get the last of it.

I wonder if PM5 has any endings with the girls in the game. I heard PM4 could have endings with the rival girls.

>>5444822
I have the game on my hard drive, I could upload if you want.

>>5438515
The problem is that it will then extract a whole lot more lines that have nothing to with game text. After some testing I came to conclusion that Only extracting Japanese text is the best solution. You have two options: 1 - copy Mev directory somewhere and replace the one in game directory with it when you need to extract scripts; 2 - install perl, remove line EXE=1 in bat file (this will cause to use .pl files instead of exes I generated for people who don't have perl (this is actually what weighs 14MB; everything else is less than 10kb of text)), and change line 99 in decode-bbn.pl from /[\p{Han}\p{Katakana}\p{Hiragana}]/ to /[a-zA-Z0-9\p{Han}\p{Katakana}\p{Hiragana}]/; but beware that it will introduce a lot of unnecessary things to scripts.

About lines not inserting correctly, could you provide a more-or-less dimple way to reproduce the problem? I was free as bird last week, but not now.

About line breaks, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about this:

%% aaa %%
Very long line that spans 1.5 screens.

%% bbb %%%
Short line.

becoming this:

Very long line that spans
1.5 screens.
Short line.

?

If so, just put whole text into first line and leave the other one empty.

>>5444847
I would appreciate it although I need to leave for work in 3 minutes so I might have to download it after work... unless you mean torrent, then yeah I'd get it since it's running right now.

Man I hate going to work some days.

>>5444901
Uploading, will take a while so just check the thread after job.
Have a nice day Anon.

>>5441914
After mulling it over for like half an hour, I concluded that the best way to handle the "voluntarily" issue is to just chop it right off whenever it can't be replaced with "volunteered". When it's helping around the house or other tasks where she's helping someone else, it works, but there's no way to make it fit with individual tasks like studying.

The way it is used in the game it's very obvious that these are things she choses to do on her own, and no matter what the hell I tried to insert in those sentences (On her own/by herself/etc) they either sounded even more unnatural or added unnecesary ambiguity.

Also switched around the "free reign" thing in jiyuu.txt. You are just giving her the day off, "free reign" has a connotation of being given command of something significant.

>>5444867
>About lines not inserting correctly, could you provide a more-or-less dimple way to reproduce the problem? I was free as bird last week, but not now.

Assuming you mean simple, just take the contents of inpcube.txt, eq000.txt, or jiyuu.txt off the wiki, insert them, and start the game. Both of them occur very early on (inpcube is in the introduction, eq000.txt is the first script after you actually get into the game, and jiyuu.txt will occur the *second* time you attempt to give your daughter free time (Click on your daughter, click the third line, then when he gives you a choice, hit cancel. Then click on her and hit the third line again). All three of those will display the original first line instead of the translated version. Any subsequent lines in the files are inserted properly though.

As for the line break thing, I've already tried stuffing everything onto one line, and then commenting out the text of the other "parts" of the sentence, which works great, except that even without any actual text in them, it will force another line break.

>>5446976

So, let's say you have a sentence that spans two lines, and then another sentence that is supposed to display in the same box, it looks like this..

| [First part of sentence} [Second part |
| of sentence.]
| [Empty line] |
| [Second sentence] |

If the second sentence spans more than one line, it gets chopped off the bottem of the text box. Now, if you attempt to comment out the whole line entirely (including the %% whatever %%), then several different things can happen. It might display some text too early, cut off some letters in some lines, etc.

>>5446990
The "best" solution (I think) is if we could get rid of the mandatory line break in the engine (Which I realize that, if it's even possible, would be a lot of work - so please don't feel like I'm trying to force you to play around with it). Barring that, there are quite a few other ways we can work around it (or just let it stay like it it - it might not look great, but it works.)

Also, sorry guys, but I probably won't be posting any files today. I'll try to do a few late tonight if I can, but I can't promise anything.

bump

>>5444909
Done!
Princess Maker 2 Refine:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C4RY4IS4

>>5449759
I am guessing Refine is not translated?

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>>5449946
Nop, if you played the original it is exactly the same except with voices and more/better CG.

>>5449759
Thank you anon, I was waiting for this after work.

>>5447014
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/kouyuu.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eq030.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/ode.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eq080.txt

Also, AoRF, the first-line not inserting correctly is happening in these as well.

>>5451022
Looked over.

I remind you of the Butler/Housekeeper thing in >>5440831. Any opinions?

Ugh. It's the god damn byte order mask. Basically, it's windows' text editor stuffing unnecessary things invisible to humans into text files. Saving your file as "utf-8 without byte order mask", if your editor supports it, adding line break before the first line, ot downloading tools again (only utils.pl changes, no need to remake anything) fixes it. Probably.

http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/princess-maker-5-tools-1.7.rar

>>5451345
I basically agree with you, so I changed to it from butler to steward on the wiki.

>>5451345
Thanks. Sorry for bothering you so much.

Thank you both for your hard work.

>>5451601
Bumping this so it doesn't get pushed off due to spam.

Keep up the good work guys

Up.

I just wanted to say that I really hope this game gets translated.

>>5453835

Same here. Hopefully this progress will keep up.

>>5450219
I see. Thanks.

>>5450219

Any way to mix the two versions? Putting the CGs of Refine in enlgish PM2?

>>5455001
Dude, the English PM2 runs on MSDOS. I don't think it can display cg's with many colors.

>>5455229
Then you could put the translation of original PM2 to Refine?

>>5451022
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/14.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eq020.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/yukkuri.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ee030.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ef020.txt

Cute girl, but her name is too long for the name block ; ;

>>5456312
Is there a good way to shorten it?

>>5455260
That sounds more feasible.

>>5456312
I would recommend just putting in first names and not the full thing. Or family name, one or the other.

The full names are going to be kind of long and you don't really need the whole thing in the "chat box". If people wanna look it up, they can in the daughter's little book right?

>>5456418
I completely agree with this.

On that topic in ef020.txt, is the verb skipped on purpose, or should line ce be "You know, I, I'd really [like]"?

>>5456593
That was just a mistake on my part.

>>5456418
Alright, I'll just start putting the last names for people she calls by their last name, and then the first name for people she calls by their first name. Sound good?

>>5456923
>last names for people she calls by their last name
>first name for people she calls by their first name
Yeah. Fine by me.

>>5456923
I'm... not so sure about that, it could get pretty confusing. If the name she uses and the name displayed are always the same, people not keeping track of everyone's names would naturally assume they are ALL first names or ALL surnames.

I'd suggest using first name always for the character tags. In the case of those with whom she is in a first-name basis, there'd be no issue, and with those whom she calls by their surnames, the difference between what is used in dialogue and what appears in their tags should make it clear she is using their surnames.

It also prevents any issues if there are two characters who are related and she happens to call them both by their surnames (Having two characters with the same first name, on the other hand, is extremely rare in fiction).

I'm... not so sure about that, it could get pretty confusing. If the name she uses and the name displayed are always the same, people not keeping track of everyone's names would naturally assume they are ALL first names or ALL surnames. This could also get weird if she gets friendly with someone and starts using their first names even though she originally used their surname.

I'd suggest using first name always for the character tags. In the case of those with whom she is in a first-name basis, there'd be no issue, and with those whom she calls by their surnames, the difference between what is used in dialogue and what appears in their tags should make it clear she is using their surnames.

It also prevents any issues if there are two characters who are related and she happens to call them both by their surnames (Having two characters with the same first name, on the other hand, is extremely rare in fiction).

>>5457480
Why not just use the initial of their last name and then their first? Like for her >>5456312
S. Hiroko, instead of Sakakibara Hiroko. And for names that do fit, you could even just leave the whole thing in.

>>5457602
Stinks real hard of NES/SNES era translation.

"L.HERO, GO GET THE DRG.SWD, BEAT THE ARMIES OF DRK.DMNS AND THE EVIL.LRD AND SAVE THE KINGDOM!"

>>5457480
You bring up a good point, I didn't even think about that when I said it.

>>5457602
Personally, I think this is a good compromise, but I'll give it some time for other people to voice their opinions. It's not like this is a pressing matter, it would be a relatively quick change.

Why not reduce the font size?

>>5459098
In order to save sufficient horizontal space, the font would need to be unreadably small.

>>5459474

Reduce font size and put one name above the other?

>Surname
>Name

Fucking fonts, how do they work

>>5459495
The game doesn't support two lines for the name-box. I don't think it's something important enough to have AoRF fiddle around with the engine over either.

>>5459649

Too bad. That means >>5456418 is the best option we have now (at least to me). To avoid >>5457480 or at least a part of it, how abut adding Mr. or Ms. before (or -san/-sama/etc, after) the surname for those the daugher calls by the surname and use only the name for who is called only by the name?

>>5456312
One last script for today.
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/44.txt

Sorry that it wasn't too much today.

>>5459908
how abut adding Mr. or Ms. before (or -san/-sama/etc, after) the surname for those the daugher calls by the surname and use only the name for who is called only by the name?

Absolutely not, you're suggesting making up honorifics at times and hacking them off at others arbitrarily. And it doesn't solve the problem in the least, it's still a made-up criteria that other players wouldn't know about at all and would do nothing to solve any of the issues mentioned.

I dislike the initials thing, but this is ever worse.

>>5462054
>you're suggesting making up honorifics

I was thinking about putting the honorifics she uses, not making them up.

>>5463262
And then what about those she calls without honorifics? What good is the system them? What about those she calls by first name WITH honorifics? You'll ignore some honorifics and retain others arbitrarily? How does any of this help a player tell which is which without us providing him with a guide to our awesome secret code? What about if she switches from surname to first name along the line?

This just creates in immense bunch of arbitrary crap to keep track of without any benefits.

>>5463361

Alright then, I won't suggest anything else.

Also, why so mad?

Need any help translating this shit?

>>5463490
Get the fuck out.

>>5463497
Why the hate?
Is the trip legit?

Up.

>>5462054
My vote still stands with either using Last initial + First name or simply first name only. May I ask what about the initial thing you don't like?

Anyways, got a few more scripts done, but I've got to head out to work or I'm going to be late. I'll post them up later tonight.

>>5466382
Initials are characteristic of forms, lists, and so on. Administrative paperwork basically. Middle-name initials are the exception, but these are nonexistent in Japanese (Unless you ask Chiaki Konaka). "Last-name initial + full first name" has that paperwork style that I think clashes with the purpose of the chat window, which is dialogue.

I think it looks ugly, to make it simple.

Also, chopping down to initials is a trademarked vestige of Ye Olde Console Game Translatione. There was a pretty good rant from the translator of Etrian Odyssey about how much he loathed it and scrambled to find ways to avoid it (EO had an annoyingly archaic character limit), and I agreed in every way.

Anyhow... seeing as you are the translator and pretty much the project's lifeblood, the final word is yours. This is my opinion.

Thank you so much for doing this.

>>5466382
Alright, here are the ones from earlier, but I'm going to try to get another one or two done before I go to sleep.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/58.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/45.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/22.txt

>>5466916
>Anyhow... seeing as you are the translator and pretty much the project's lifeblood, the final word is yours. This is my opinion.

And anyone who abuses their "authority" to do what they want doesn't deserve to have it in the first place. It would be foolish not to take other opinions into consideration, especially if they explain WHY their opinion is that way. Both of the points you raised are valid. The reason I would prefer going with an initial + first name is that atleast both names would be represented, even if they aren't both fully there. However, if it's going to make people feel off if they see an initial, for whatever the reason, it kind of defeats any reason for putting it there. The actual dialogue will actually show their full name when they are introduced, and it can be looked up later in her book.

>>5470543
Oops, I meant to post a picture too. Sorry for the double post, but hopefully it will help keep people interested.

>>5470550
Alright, last two of the night.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/13.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/62.txt

I'll try to get some more done tomorrow. Goodnight~

>>5470937
I forgot the image AGAIN ;_;

g-night man

>>5470946
Okay, I lied, I haven't been to sleep yet. But I'm going to now!

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9001.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9000.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9002.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9003.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9010.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9011.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9012.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9020.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9021.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9022.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9023.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9030.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9040.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9041.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/item/i9042.txt

Note: This is ALL just the same repeated text, just with some changes to the mysterious %% whatever %% stuff. Also, I just noticed that all of these need to have a space added to the end of "Your order of" ;_;. If nobody gets to it before I get off work tomorrow, I'll go through them and add it.

>>5471669

It's done, all of them. I just hope the changes stay, the last few times I edited a wiki everything was reversed even though I was trying to improve the articles.

>>5473119
Someone reversed something from this project? Might want to ask Ephyon, I haven't reversed any changes on the wiki.

This thread is awesome. Translation is underway and pretty fast.

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>>5474467
I don't think he's talking about this project, he said "A" wiki. Other than his edits on >>5471669, >>5442404 is the only one who has done any edits other than me and they were only on the files he quoted.

Bump

Keeping this up.

Bump.

Bump.

Up to the top with you.

>>5471669
Sorry about that, I fell asleep as soon as I got off work yesterday. Anyways, here's a script for now (it's a bit longer than the other ones I've posted)

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/edu.txt

Ephyon, please read the notes I put on lines 91b, 8e0, 327, and 266. If your thinking is different than mine, please feel free to make changes (as your judgement has pretty much been better than mine so far).

Anyways, I'll get a few more posted last night.

>>5484228
>posted last night.
Meant late tonight.

>>5484228
Tricky~. I actually need to do some actual work for once.

1a9: Can you tell if this line is different from the other food budget ones for some reason? Like, if it has some meaning like "THIS month we'll only have to spend 2,500 yen"?

142, 148: I did some small changes there by moving a fragment to the line bellow. I'm still not sure of how much I can move in these scripts, so take a look and tell me if it's okay.

8e0: I think "educational" is fine actually, since they ones referring either to academic studies, teaching moral responsibility or teaching her to handle money (The effects on social life are a side-effect of these). So it's all "education", even if only one is academic. That said, I think it looks better as just policies, provided we retain the "educational" part in the lines that kickstart all this (aee, af4). I already did the changes.

91b: I haven't touched it yet because I'm not sure of it's used, but if I remember correctly, the Japanese just write down months as numbers, right? If we just change the numbers to January, February, etc, all we'd need to do in that line is chop off "month" and it'd would read "[x] arrives", as in "January arrives".

...Cont'd

9f6 a9e, 9f0, a98, etc. Well, crap. If I'm right, the junior high fragment is "9ea + 9f0 + 9f6 a9e" and the high school fragment is "a92 + a98 + 9f6 a9e" (9f6 a9e is used twice). This kind of screws over my intention of editing it to "we will need to rise her monthly allowance to XXXXYen" if the variable number is the middle phrase (9f0/a98). Again, not too sure how much we can toy with these, is it possible to change these to sets like:

-The young lady will enter junior high this month,
-so we will need to rise her monthly allowance to
-2000 yen

-The young lady will enter high school this month,
-so we will need to rise her monthly allowance to
-3000 yen

be9, bf5: I would need to see this in game to be sure, but if I'm right and one goes after the other ("In this way + it will change"), it seems like it'd be better to switch the lines around ("It will change + in this way").

>>5438156

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>>5485174
>1a9: Can you tell if this line is different from the other food budget ones for some reason? Like, if it has some meaning like "THIS month we'll only have to spend 2,500 yen"?

No, that was a goof on my part. Although, I'd assume you can't keep it up for too long, considering he can warn you about dieting too much.

>142, 148: I did some small changes there by moving a fragment to the line bellow. I'm still not sure of how much I can move in these scripts, so take a look and tell me if it's okay.

That works fine.

>8e0: I think "educational" is fine actually, since they ones referring either to academic studies, teaching moral responsibility or teaching her to handle money (The effects on social life are a side-effect of these). So it's all "education", even if only one is academic. That said, I think it looks better as just policies, provided we retain the "educational" part in the lines that kickstart all this (aee, af4). I already did the changes.

Ah, that works well. Thanks~

>91b: I haven't touched it yet because I'm not sure of it's used, but if I remember correctly, the Japanese just write down months as numbers, right? If we just change the numbers to January, February, etc, all we'd need to do in that line is chop off "month" and it'd would read "[x] arrives", as in "January arrives".

In Japanese it would display like "1月になりました。" (As a side note, it would be closer to say "has become" than "arrives"). The problem is that I'm not sure if the 1-12 it uses is actually IN the script files or not, and it's difficult to search through the files for a specific number because they're all over the place. I personally suspect the numbers aren't in the script files, which is why I was having problems coming up with a replacement.

>>5485178
>9f6 a9e, 9f0, a98, etc. Well, crap. If I'm right, the junior high fragment is "9ea + 9f0 + 9f6 a9e" and the high school fragment is "a92 + a98 + 9f6 a9e" (9f6 a9e is used twice). This kind of screws over my intention of editing it to "we will need to rise her monthly allowance to XXXXYen" if the variable number is the middle phrase (9f0/a98). Again, not too sure how much we can toy with these, is it possible to change these to sets like:

The number is actually part of the script for the 2nd part of each sentence. Probably the easiest way to deal with it is to just not use the third part (that's common to each [9f6 a9e]) and just write the full thing out in the first and second lines for both junior high and highschool.

For example, if we comment out 9f6 a9e, we could just split "The young lady will enter high school this month, so we will need to raise her allowance to 3000 yen." between a92 and a98, and then do the same with the junior high segment.

>>5485178
be9, bf5: I would need to see this in game to be sure, but if I'm right and one goes after the other ("In this way + it will change"), it seems like it'd be better to switch the lines around ("It will change + in this way").

I'll need to look at it in-game, but I'm pretty sure that's right (although it doesn't contain any punctuation on the ending, which is kind of confusing). I would say to go ahead and make the change. If we later find out that it should be swapped around, we can make the change then.

Speaking of which...
@AoRF: Are you going to attempt to work on the text wrapping thing at all? If not, I might try to see if we can get someone who will test the scripts so we can identify when any of them are being cut off at the bottom of the dialogue box.

>>5485542
>The problem is that I'm not sure if the 1-12 it uses is actually IN the script files or not, and it's difficult to search through the files for a specific number because they're all over the place.

Gah. I'm really hoping you're mistaken on this one, because I'm pretty stuck otherwise. There's not much you can put after a lone number to signal months that would look good in English... I really don't want to resort to something idiotic like "[Number] month(s) have passed since the beginning of the year". Might as well just toss in a math problem while I'm at it.

Well, let's leave that for later then, maybe we can work something out if there's any way to figure where the numbers are stored or I may come up with something. I'll just keep mulling it over for now.

>>5485667
>>5485922
Oh, I forgot. I'm utterly illiterate when it comes to this stuff, so by "commenting out" 9f6 a9e, I took it to mean adding # in front of the line. Is that good?

>>5485977
That's correct!

>>5438155

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>>5485922
My bet would be that the month is just stored as an integer and is increased with every month. That integer is probably just printed out at the beginning of the sentence. It sucks, but that would be my best guess on how it's done.

Anyways, here's some more:
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/73.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/74.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ei270.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/75.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/76.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/77.txt

>>5486802
I saw that. I must admit, it did make me kind of happy.

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>>5487078
Here's some more before I head off to work.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/78.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/72.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/70.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/69.txt

This thread, is the best thread ever.

H-holy crap! PM5?!

I loved this game despite the crazy hoops I had to go through to play with the translator programs...

Man, I'm really looking forward to the results of this~

Since something is actually starting to happening here, you have my support in making this.

>>5491483

>ode/78.txt:
-5dc 8b8: My closest bet at figuring out what "歩け歩け" is was Google Images, which suggests it's some manner of non-competitive not-quite-race event. I definitely don't think it's Racewalking so... bah, screw it, walking marathon it is. The goal in a marathon is usually getting there instead of getting there first, so this probably gets the point across.

-f99: I guess the choice is between "[x] has been found" and just "[x]". When I imagine them being used, the two sound like ass but the first one a little bit more so. If these messages come up after some sort of "search" function, simply "[x]" should do the trick, passive constructions stick like a sore thumb if used repeatedly.

-11d8: "ラジカセ" is a boombox.

By the way, I finally installed the game and took a look at what we're actually working on... well, the number of text files is not QUITE so horrifyingly high as I expected, even if some are clearly much longer than others.

Then I went to the image folders. GOOD GOD THE /town/ FOLDER. 491 postcard images. Shit, that is going to be some boring crap to work on.

That said, this is the cutest fucking thing I've ever seen.

>>5440544

Why don't you go back to /b/ and correct people's punctuation, you fucking faggot?

summer.jpg

>>5493726

What?

>>5493493
>-f99
It comes up after you do the "Examine the area" option. So the text goes something like this:

Someone seems to have dropped something...
A worn out volume of manga
<whatever line f9 is>

All together, the last two bits would generally read something like "It was a worn out volume of manga...". The way we're given the line though makes it difficult to get that in English. We could do it the same way we did the allowance raise if you'd like. Just keep the "It was..." line commented out, and then change each of the item lines from:

"A worn out volume of manga"
To:
"It was a worn out volume of manga..." (and so on with the rest)

>-11d8

Thanks~

Bumping because there are breasts on the front page.

Ugly girl with an ugly hairpin

>>5494900
>We could do it the same way we did the allowance raise if you'd like

Best option, yeah. I'll do it later, I'm going to sleep now.

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>>5494900
Here's two more for now, but I'll get alteast another two up sometime tonight.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/67.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/66.txt

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>>5501475
This is it for tonight:

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/64.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/63.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/61.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/60.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/59.txt

age

Is there a way to see which scripts are already translated/uploaded already other than wading through previous threads?

>>5505039
Okay, done.

"Brand Shop" is actually fine.

>>5508545

Does this work?

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Special:PrefixIndex/Princess_Maker_5/text/

So do you guys have an estimated release date for this?

Yeah. I've also been wondering about the release date...

>>5510695
Yes, it works perfectly, thank you.

Also, I gave one file a bit of a try, but I am still downloading the game, so I can't say if i used the wrong person view somewhere or whether it will insert properly. When I finish the d/l, I'll try and edit it a bit better. I'll translate quite a few more on Thursday if you find my translation up to standard.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/talk/main.txt

>>5510707
>So do you guys have an estimated release date for this?
The short answer is no. I haven't been keeping track of the total KB finished as compared to the whole, but it definately won't be that soon. There are also quite a few pictures that will have to be gone through.

>>5511333
I glanced over it and it looks fine to me (albeit, I'm not really one to talk - I've mentioned multiple times since I started that we'll need someone who knows Japanese better than I do before its over). At this point, some of the POV stuff is mostly up to your best guess, because there's no way to tell who's speaking just from the script files (unless you can recognize their manner of speaking, such as for Cube). When stuff starts being tested we can fix those as needed.

>>5511333
I'll let you give it a second sweep before editing it myself. Please be careful with missing or untranslated chunks like in b81 and 82f. I can deal with punctuation and style, but anything that google translator/my half-assed experience can't puzzle out accurately is beyond me.

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>>5511477
Only one for now, I'll get more up tonight.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/12.txt

>>5521084
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/16.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/21.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/27.txt

>>5521084
>>5523444
Done.

Bump.

age, I think

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/talk/t01.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/talk/t02.txt

There a few too many t/l notes/unclear points, I hope it will not be much bother for the editor.


...this is going to get some time to get done.

>>5529509
I've only just finished going through /talk/main.txt. I've got several things to note:

-It's okay to try and phrase things so as to convey the correct attitude, but if you can't figure out how to do it naturally, just leave it literal and leave a note explaining what it is that should be expressed and I'll handle it. I noted several points where the translation just had a pretty different feel than the original, mostly sounding a lot more elaborate in English even though she's clearly being curt and snappish (591 for instance). I can work these out by myself, but if this happens with a more complex sentence, I would have no way of knowing there is even an inconsistency to begin with.

-26d0:
What's the sound "フン" supposed to express? Because I know she's not saying the word "Fun" there.

I only took a glance at t01.txt, but pleeeeease don't use emoticons if there were none to begin with. See the first point, just leave me a note saying what should be expressed and I'll work something out. It's a lot easier for me to do this if I know what's been said and what is supposed to convey, as opposed to having to work it out from machine translations and an already tweaked sentence.

>>5532071
Wouldn't フン! be like 'Hmph!'.

>>5532105
No, its "Ice to Meet you"

>>5523444
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/29.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/30.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/31.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/32.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/33.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/34.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/36.txt

Several of these have notes for you, Ephyon.

>>5532071, >>5532105 is correct. It's just a sound "Hun.", so "Hmmph." is a good replacement. Also, to the random greek anon, I noticed there were a few lines left unstranslated. If you aren't sure about a line, can you mark it with XXX please? (Just make another comment line and fill it in like so:#XXX). That way it will be much easier to go back through files to find lines that need to be looked over.

Worthy of saving from page 14.

>>5532071
I don't use emoticons. Where did you...oh.That must have slipped in subconciously, I too had a dentist appointment that day. You'll never see smth similar again.

I'll keep the rest of the points in mind, and work around these.

>>5533018
Fixed that line. I can't find anything else untranslated. So, apart from t/l notes I should also leave the XXX you say. I'll keep that in mind too.

It's the first big project I'm involved into, so bare with me a bit more until I adjust. If eventually I see that I'm holding back the project, rather than speeding it, I'll just withdraw quitely. If there's anything else you need, leave me a message here, or at the discussion page at the wiki, I look at both quite often.

Yay, double post.

Ephyon, at line c8e of main.txt, that haaaai had dashes rather than tildes, so I assume that it has a tone of accepting something forced to her or indifference rather than eagerness. Your call, I just wanted to pinpoint this.

>>5533018
On ode/34.txt: the thing about the atmosphere is best looked over after seeing it in game. I'd need to see if she means it's creepy or tense or whatever.

ode/36.txt: In 199, I went with just "people". Like you said, audience sounds odd outside the theater, but they're definitely not "guests" either and moviegoers just sounds odd there. It doesn't take a genius to guess that a crowd lining up outside a movie theater is there to see a movie.

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Greek, some notes on talk/t01:

266 eec: This is something I did on a guess, but it sounds more like Cube or the system is reporting on the result of your actions (Talking with her). These results tend to be immediate, thus I guessed that this is reporting on the result on a chat you had, not of a number of talks across a span of time. Does it actually say "recently" in there?

340: Are you sure she isn't just saying "I'm healthy, I don't want it"?

98d: Not a choice and there are no Cube lines near, so I'm guessing this is her speaking.

eb6: This one feels like a different version of be6/bf2, so the "about my teeth hurting" looks out of place (I don't think she's talking about something she previously said). Am I right to say that she's more or less saying "My teeth hurt, but it must be my imagination"?

Nothing to say but good job translating and I am looking forward to this. Any estimate as to the % completed?

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>>5541849
Let me give you a rough idea: So far, we've worked on a bit more than 100 text files. Essentially all of these are about 3~5kb each.

Most of the files are on the 15kb average range. There's about 500 of those. There's a few on the 30/65kb range.

Then there's 491 postcard images needing translating and editing, and a lot of shorter ones too that I haven't counted.

Then there's whatever technical difficulties AoRF hasn't dealt with/discovered yet like the character input thing. Provided he hasn't vanished since he hasn't posted in several days (IF YOU'RE THERE, GIVE US A HEADS UP).

So, estimate? Don't hold your breath.

>>5541849

Too early to ask such things, don't you think so?

>>5540961
On 266 : 近頃=recently, nowadays. Perhaps he wants to say that you've been spending more time with her recently? Perhaps "these days" would fit better, and dumping more/some might make it sound better.

340: That sounds better, guess I overcomplicated the context.

98d: Your guess is as good as mine, we'll finalize it once we see it in-game.

eb6: No, the wording/syntax is different. If one were to transliterate it as it is, you would have something like "[my tooth hurts]->quoting, imagination surely is." You get the point. In-game screens will clear this out too.

>>5541849
In terms of merely text files themselves, we're at roughly 3.4%. That's NOT counting image translation/editing. I calculated it yesterday but didn't want to post it because I thought it might be a bit disheartening to hear. There also needs to be work done either on the engine due to the line breaking, or we'll need to test the inserted scripts and manually set up line breaks so that text does not get cut off.

The short version is that there's quite a bit left to do, but we're working on it slowly but surely. My time is rather limited over the summer compared to fall/winter/spring (is it odd that I actually have more time when I'm taking classes than when I'm working?), so hopefully it will speed up a bit in about a month. It should also speed up a bit with the Greek anon helping out too.

>>5542801
On that note:

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/37.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/38.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/39.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/40.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/41.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/42.txt

So, how are we doing so far?

>>5543269

See >>5542801

Things are doing rpetty well, actually, for a project based on /jp/'s threads and without a proper page on TLwiki.

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