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http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5355655
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5360055
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5369630
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5377476
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5385548
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5390103
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5399927
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5423614
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5453850
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5464271
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5484871

Some educative Japanese Cosmic Break replays:

This is how you play Small AIR
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4082694

This is how you play sniper/Sagittary Maxis
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6205884

Lily Rain and Crimrose in Ark war
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6281758

Heavy Artillery with Toybox/Howitzer
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5764491

Why L AIR with stardust cannon is very dangerous
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8889454

where do I go for the special event?

Blast-strafing Power-spot with Shaden BS. First rank. Japanese support sure is reliable; they're always ready with repair-on-demand.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8898098

How to play aggresive with high HP zooka/beam M AIR with sword bit, and guntoting LND with sway cartridge
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8538862

Another excellent M/L AIR player. Choose target, hunt and eliminate. Otherwise do hit and run.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8346441
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7989436

Jikun with 0 FLY, club and viper shield. Later he lost his arm and head. His AIR can wreak havoc as well. Those endless repair support and drug farming sure looks neat..
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7531216

>>5504294

well it looks like i missed it

Mustn't forget the basic link.

http://www.cosmicbreak.com/

question
where do i get UC?
I seem to get only 100 or so from each long ass mission...

>>5504267
Why is crimrose so cute?

>>5504415
your only source of income is the arena

>>5504417
because she's only half a woman

Did the event. Killed a bunch of shit. Only got a red chip. The large bosses in area 9 weren't even dropping shit.

Went to event. Killed a bunch of stuff. Came out with 200 UC. BEAUTIFUL.

>>5504463

>>5504596
That was pretty fun.

Why is nearly every explosive weapon a "bazooka" ?

I've never seen a game use bazookas so much.

>>5504818
Grenades are explosive.

Missiles that lock on are explosive too.

The ones that don't are also explosive.

Handbombs as well! Don't say that bazookas are the explosives to end all explosives.

Tried to get Raid Rifle from Garapon #2. Got melee weapons 5 times in a row. The chances must be astronomical.

>>5504818
Grenades are explosive.

Missiles that lock on are explosive too.

The ones that don't are also explosive.

Handbombs as well! Don't say that bazookas are the explosives to end all explosives.

What should I do to get great DP out of an air unit?

>>5504905
This is how Garapon works. If there's something you want, you won't get it unless you roll 20+ times.

>>5504910
All of those suck though.

>>5504921
If I want another one, am I allowed to buy it directly?

I was a healer during the event today. Hope you enjoyed it.

What's the longest range weapon in the game? I'm running quad rifles on my lilly and I wanted to know what the competition was like.

>>5504947

Grenade on one of the m art bots. It has 415 base range and 3 slots.

goddamn WIZ was raping DOS tonight, I started on server 2 and we just kept getting pushed back past our power spot, which would then get destroyed. Kept getting gangbanged after discovering my teammates were all dead or running around like idiots.

Server 1 was slightly better, but then just as I was getting the hang of Maril, we got Dessicant Hills and it's fucking Garulabirds and melees jumping off the cliff onto my head when we've barely left the spawn point

>>5504966
Cheers.

415 vs 370...Eh I'll be fine.

>>5504969
Seriously? It was the complete opposite a few minutes ago.

>>5504969
I thought that arenas were cross-channel. Or am I wrong?

is there a /jp/ guild?

>>5504936
Pulsardio's EMP missiles also count as explosives, but you wouldn't be using those for its punch anyways.

>>5504947
Toybox's CRUISE MISSILES run at 530 range. Of course, these are missiles.

>>5505003
Isn't it Hotglue?

So what should I try to build if I want to try an assault style robot with shotguns or Gatling guns of some kind? If such things exist.

>>5505000
are they? then fuck me. Considering that everyone keeps saying how /jp/ is on server 3 (now 2), I assumed it mattered.

and in that case I don't have a clue where >>5504973 is coming from, I think DOS won one map (Random Arkantus in a last-moment turnaround) in the hour or so I was playing

If anyone from the clan can invite me, I'm completely new.

SwagRabbit

Can you TK in this game?

>>5505028

There are normally 2 Wiz vs Dos 15v15 matches going on at any time. One has a rank restriction for level 23, I think, and below while the other doesn't have a restriction.

>>5505054
yeah I'm aware of that, but I'm pretty sure there was only one room active for each type of battle at the time; oh well it doesn't really matter

Does anyone who's good with melee have any pointers? Some japanese player hit me for 140 damage in one hit and I'll like to know how. I'm an art. Also how are some melee attacks so fast? If you raise your walk, do your melee attacks move faster?

How do you get "Great Fighting Spirit"?

Is there a wiki or something?

>>5505103
ART is weak against close combat.
* Receive 1.4x damage from close combat weaponry

LND robots' specialty are close combat weaponry (which is why they get weapons like slayer and Misty Hollow's scythe). I can't give you any good advice, but I can give you one protip:

Hope you don't lag.

>>5505124

I took 140 damage from a single hit. That means the base damage was 100. How is that even possible?

>>5505136
* The damage done by a melee weapon is: (Weapons's Force)* (1 + 0.025 *(STR-10))" rounded.

Of course, it could be the damage stacking up from a combo after a lag spike, that tends to happen too.

>>5505123
Japanese Wiki: http://www42.atwiki.jp/cosmicbreak/
English Wiki: http://www.cosmicbreak.com/_/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Anyone got a list of the homing capabilities of missile weapons?

I hate Air and Land bots but I finally understand how to play them, so at least I can enjoy the rest of the game. Land in particular is pretty hilarious.

>>5505048
Yes but it's not easy to do on purpose.

>>5505136
There are also criticals. Don't know how they're calculated though.

>>5505183
I want to know this too.

In other threads people have claimed to know these "homing values"

>Can you TK in this game?
Yes. I had a little fun when I shot a fellow quester to death (admittedly he was on his last legs), and I did see one case of a TK happening in a real match.

>>5505460
I like to bump people with no health shooting meta cactus for repairkits into the cactus and watching them blow up.

>>5505572
Good job sabotaging your own team

>>5505460

I've seen a game end with TK.

>meta cactus
FUCK META CACTI
They can still hurt you until they completely explode.

>>5505460
>>5505572
Are there any penalties or ways for me to get vote kicked? I might pick this game up.

Does anyone else find themselves spending the entirety of the between-arena timer trying to knock people off perches and watch them freak out trying to get back on?

>>5505768
Yes you can votekick people. If you want to be a douche, just do the mission and set people on fire when they try to get to the exit.

Double points for during it during a daily event.

>>5505768
There's vote kick, but rarely anyone does it. As for penalty... well, you make your team lose, you're making the whole team, including yourself, lose out some UC and exp.

>>5505805
No, I either spend the entire time trying to get the menu to load so I can level up my bot or buy another ticket, or wondering why I teleported halfway across the map when I returned from the match.

>Do the quest
>Stage layout has changed
>Get used to it
>Do the bee
>Level layout has changed too
>Look like a fucking noob

>>5505833
Here's a tip. Alt + tab when menu loads. Loads almost instantly for some reason.

which mecha girl is this

>>5506013
If I did that, I'd end up back at 4chan and miss like the first minute of the match.

>>5506013
you sir are my saviour

>>5506033
what a slut

when does beta end and our characters deleted?

>>5506033
That's a garapon. Also why do they call it garapon instead of gachapon?

>>5506085
July 11

http://www.cosmicbreak.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cosmicbreak_schedule.png

>>5506089
Avoid name infringement. Similar to how they use G*nd*m in eroges..

I have never been to bastagant. Is it tough?

>>5506173
Not really, but doing it for the first couple of times will be.

>>5506089
more gar

>>5506138
I thought gachapon was the name of the machine, like saying "vending machine".

>>5506089
It's probably a lame pun. Either garagara means something or it's a play on garage.

>>5506248
I thought it was a pun for the onomatopoeia "gah-ra gah-ra gah-ra" of when you rotate the handle to spin the draw machine. Cause it doesn't look like a gachapon vending machine.

YOU CAN'T COMPARE

REIMARUSA HAREISAMEI

>>5506559
I'm surprised no one's done the "cat"

>>5506616
I don't have the resources to make catmel because I'm broke. Also, I can't do polygon stuff and who knows how to do Komachi twintails anyways

Improved reimarusa hareisamei with 17 STR/18 TEC for near optimum Wonder Bit operation.

...the witch hat adds 1 TEC.

>>5506559
>>5506822

Whatever that is...it should burn in hell.

>>5506822
There is a camel legs. But it's a rare drop only.

>>5506461
gacha/gasha is a turning onomatopoeia too so probably.

SPEAKING OF RARE DROPS, I have an Ace braver body and Build Arm Body.

Shit is so TINY GOD DAMN

>>5506894
Despite using the x3 drop item and the weekend bonus, I've not been able to procure a single rare body with both of them in effect.

Of the two I have, Red Squealer dropped on a weekday without a ticket and I have no idea when I got Elme. I hate how skewed the drop rates are. If anything, I want MORE parts to toy around with.

>>5507043
hahah jokes on you I got them from friendship rewards, though the build arm might have been a PVP drop.

But yeah I still get jealous seeing blocky's and wootrees

I do have a elme and maid body but they were so small and boring I didn't bother making them.

Ahaha.

Despite REIMARUSA HAREISAMEI's incredibly balanced stats (STR 17/TEC 18/WLK 22/FLY 18/TGH 16), it is still a train wreck in slow motion considering that the Raid Rifle and Boost Gun are not notably good weapons.

>>5507059
I seem to have the opposite problem, I get a lot of Wootrees and Blockys but I sell them anyways because I have to feed my garapon addiction.

>>5507097
>slow motion considering that the Raid Rifle
>not notably good weapons


AHAHAHAH

>>5507101
>saying that like I'm always right
I don't know what I'm saying, my computer lags too much during crowded skirmishes to actually make it as useful as it's supposed to be.

>>5507140
I think the boost gun and motorized gun are way overpriced for what they do, but the raid rifle and assault rifles are great. The new air only rifle from the bird is pretty awesome too, but it just eats ammo way too fast.

Damnit pink M size crimrose's legs are L. But it makes sense since the original crimrose has M legs...

Beam shoulder pads are pretty cool, but do they actually block shots? What about the ones on cross raptor or throe leg dealies on crimrose? Or do the extra bits that show up attached to certain parts not mean anything?

>>5507189
>Or do the extra bits that show up attached to certain parts not mean anything?

It's just decoration.

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Hatigarm arms. Because they make everything better!

* This is what I would consider the worst robot in my loadout, yet it's the one that scores me the most cash because I get Best Supporter sometimes.

>>5507173

If you are talking about the bird rifle arms, that is how I get most my kills now. I put two on my crimrose, along with two booster AMJs, and just fly around wrecking shit. Earlier I was in a canyon and this art was absolutely raining missiles, but those things are so damaging and long ranged that I could hit him outside of most his weapons range and have ample time to avoid the missiles.

For particularly hilarious results, I like to fly through the power point, zoom right to the front line, press both buttons to unleash all hell, then immediately zoom off. On lighter units its almost an instant kill if most the bullets it.

I really want to slap the asura amj on there and get four of them to REALLY fuck shit up, but I don't have enough cost capacity on my crim yet. At that point, it really would be a one burst kill on S units.

>>5507243
I do just fine with my Small Bazooka and Beam Rifle with my sniper scope anti-radar crimrose. Load up on items, sneak round back, SUDDENLY FIRE PILLARS AND TWO HIPPODROIDS UP IN YOUR ARTY

>>5507340

Don't have anti radar and sniper scope. Plus making strafing runs is fun. Also, dropping two hippodroids and a fire pillar during a strafe is something I do somewhat often, despite not actively attempting to get those items. Its even more fun if you chose the sniper wonder bit and place it on a cliff to back you up. Suddenly instead of one S Air, you're suddenly a team of four. If there was a way to get everyone on the team to all have and activate pillboxes and sniper units at the same time, you would be a force to be reckoned with.

>Load up on items
I wish the game just let you select one (1) item from your inventory to take with you into battle. Maybe 1 item each time you respawn.

>>5507432
It does in quest and mission modes.

>>5507432

Same. Having it be random is pretty annoying. Or they could make it so that instead of getting pickups from trees, you instead get points to spend on buying a powerup from your power station.

Afterall, it is a bit stupid that support has to rely on the random chance that someone will happen to get a wonder drug.

Also, there REALLY needs to be an ammo recharge station. I don't care if I have to sit in there for like 30 seconds. It sucks when I'm down to a couple shots left and I have to pray that the tree I'm killing will have an ammo supply.

When I run out I'm stuck either flying around acting as a distraction, or purposely flying into the middle of the enemy power spot so I can respawn.

I wish tree and cactii would drop stuff more often. Anybody know the drop rates? They seem awfully low.

>>5507456
I think 1 selectable item per life and maybe the power station slowly storing ammo (or maybe a second ammo station entirely) would work.

>>5507455
>>5507517

>>5507553
FUCK Quest mode. And Mission mode by extension.

>>5507553

We are obviously talking about Arena mode. I'm not sure why that is difficult for you to comprehend.

>>5507456
That's why melee exists. Going all guns has the rick of running out of ammo.

Also there should just be an ammo restore bit like how there's a health restore bit and a hyper shot bit.

>>5507470
I like clearing an entire area of trees and getting nothing. At least my wonderbit meter goes up.

>>5507618
The first >> was a mistake, I was talking about >>5507432

Does the wonderbit meter go up pounding on team mates? Support could shoot and then heal each other.

>>5507672

Ah. I think they were talking about Arena mode too. Not sure, though.

>>5507700
All I want to say is that being able to select what item you want to bring to the match and having the power station refill your ammo is just sort of dumb, really. You should have prepared for this if you knew that you had no backup weapons and that you're useless without bullets. At least be conservative with how you shoot or ask a friend to get you a pack of Shell Supply if they can.

They need a self destruct attachment. Maybe as a booster module. You can use up all your ammo, then rush the power spot and banzai into it.

>>5507793

Now this I can get behind. Especially if you, say, gave it a timer and made your bot flash brightly. People would see you coming and start to panic and try to shoot you down or get out of the way.

Even make your bot turn around and give a thumbs up to an ally before blowing up, for extra awesome.

Admittedly its a horrible idea, but that doesn't mean it isn't awesome.

>>5507822
Delicious brown little suicide bomber female bot. Make it happen Japan.

>>5507822
>Even make your bot turn around and give a thumbs up to an ally before blowing up, for extra awesome.

That's what this game is missing, gestures. Every mmo and mmo like has gestures. This has the voices but they don't pose or anything. It's probably why the psycho formula is so amusing.

Man, the guys on Shuffle matches are pretty weak right now.

Running out of ammo is for cowards and conservative people who don't die!

Having said that, I tend to run out of bazooka ammo, but I've got my beam rifle to fall back on, which has such a slow fire rate I hardly ever run out in Arena. If I do run out of -zooka shots, I'll need healing anyway and will go for a cacti or ghostree slaughtering session. I'll usually get enough stuff to either go on a suicide run with hippofirepillarwindtunnel items or get repair kits and shell supply. Either way, I get back in the fight fairly fast.

Considering the 4chan population on each faction will drop dramatically after beta is over, wouldn't it be cool if all the boards banded together in one faction?

>>5508008
Only if we could be called the shuffle alliance and always only join shuffle matches.

Why does no one ever do team matches?

>>5508008
Yeah, whatever.

Have WIZ lost 1st place to DOS yet? I'm at work so can't check

>>5508031
We're shy.

>>5507456 Afterall, it is a bit stupid that support has to rely on the random chance that someone will happen to get a wonder drug.
In a non-retarded team, people would leave the destructible things to support so that they can charge up WB on them.

>>5508039
Or drop wonder drugs off at the power points. Or drop them if you've got 4 items.

Honestly, this is basic teamwork.

Wait, why am I telling the enemy this?

>>5508050
Because they're shy~

Fast question, is there any good AMs or BSs for the S ART robot Lily Rain (no ASURAs)? I really think there's something better out there to put on her.

I'm also starting to realize that buying the Booster AMJs for her may or may not have been a bad idea.

>>5508032
WIZ statistically CAN'T lose first place simply because they outnumber the other guys.

>>5508059
If you're looking for high DPS, go Misside arms after boosting capacity.

However, they're easily blown off, so be warned! I can only fit one arm on at the moment due to low capacity, but if you JSJ (jump, shoot, jump) you can do a lot of damage before everyone realises you're there and you have to run like fuck or die like a bitch.

ALSO WHY AREN'T YOU DOING YOUR CYOA CHOJA

YOU SHOULD BE DOING YOUR CYOA

>>5508073
If we play enough team matches we, DOS, will claim first place! It must be so!! The strength of many is greater than the strength of just one!

TEAMWORK!!!

>10 healing bits for logging in
>I don't use support

>>5508059
Misside arms, but they only have 60 ammo and shoot 2 rockets at once. They also seem to get destroyed rather easily.

Equip them with handy bazookas and unleash the fucking fury if some air faggot comes too close.

The Build Arm BS has a built-in anti-air missiles, but they have pretty shitty homing.

>>5508050
>He cares about faction faggotry

laughinggirls

>>5508077
Ehhhh, I don't like the sound of that, especially when I tried to solo bees and got my arm slammed off. That wasn't fun.

>>5508108
A bit of a needle in a haystack situation to find one part that is *probably* useful.

I think all I have for me to do right now is Tune Up my Gun Striker and hope none of the slots break. Yes, I'm pretty dumb.

P.S. I would start working on the CYOA thing, but I have no idea when my internet's going to go kaboom, so I might as well spend the rest of it playing Cosmic Break. If my connection doesn't break by Sunday, I'll start writing again. I have AX 2010 to attend anyways.

I need to take more shots of my moe before they're erased and it's years before they can be afforded with normal rates.

>>5508125
>CYOA
>roleplaying

read the sticky

>>5508125
Get a paralyser or something with stun or slow, make sure no-one with melee gets near you, or stop them in their tracks and kill them before they hit you. May I suggest only one misside so you don't lose both arms?

Also, hurrah! I'm eagerly anxiously expecting Girls with Ties AND Gensokyo on Starboard AND everything else updates now.

>>5508152
Don't worry your pretty little head, it's not here.

>>5508125
How expensive was it, or was it garapon'd? If it was expensive/garapon'd, use the catalyser from the shops to get a 95% success rate or so. You can buy the expensive catalyser to stop it breaking if you don't care for losing all the parts, too.

>>5508125
>hope none of the slots break

You could buy a slot protector, or ask someone to gift you one. The omega slot protector even goes back to you if the upgrade succeeds.

Alternatively, you could buy Cosmo Harmonics, which increase the success rate of a Tune-Up.

I don't really bother with tune-ups yet. I'm still getting the hang of the game.

What's a good set up for a Mecha Jetter Girl? Right now i have her loaded up with an SMG and gun striker for quest farming.

>>5508228
Just try out different weapons/types/sizes, you'll find one you're good with. I was extremely shitty with AIR and LND, then I got a support bot with a weapon that homes without line of sight and learned to hide behind walls and fire away. Now I seldom die and usually get best support plus a few frags if I'm lucky (in Sand Cliff where there's this one cave no one comes to where you can hide and zap people above for the whole match, I don't think I'll ever get bored of it. )

How does questing even work? It seems to be mostly running around for a large amount of time doing mostly nothing for mediocre reward.

>>5508276
That sounds like the average quest in any online game.

>>5508276
There's actually a pattern to the chest spawns. If you enter the right gates, you can get treasures faster.

Also every group of levels has its own special kinds of parts they can drop. I'll have to dig up the list, but...

>>5508308
Holy shit. I can really use this.

So, the first time you complete a treasure collection you get a certain amount of UC, right? Why is it that I can't go past the 4th set at the beginning (I already completed all of them) even though I've completed like the 6th set before?

Also. It's normal to get something like 300-500 UC from each zone in quest, right?

This money grind is terrible. It's turned my friend off from playing CB even though it's his absolute favorite game to play. If we only get like 1k UC an hour (from arena or quest farming) that means it'll take 24 hours to get any decent mech. That's just fucked up.

>>5508371
Rank. The higher the rank, the more quests you can choose from at the start.

As for money per trip, I get 1000 or so from kills, but I do go out of my way to stay as long as possible and level up. It's probably not the best method, because after a while the monsters get too hard to damage.

>>5508371

Collecting the treasures for the first time nets you UC equal to the amount of points it gives. After that(there will be a star to show that it has already been cleared) it only gives you 1/10 worth of UC. However it resets after major updates and after every 2 weeks.

Right now many people have a lot of money due to the events. GMs have said that they might have similar events even after the wipe.

>>5508276
>>5508308
Besides the treasure collection it basically boils down to:

>Enter area
>Run around blowing shit up for shitty 5 and 10 UC coins and the occasional part box
>Farm power up cards like a motherfucker
>Find key and exit
>Leave for the next area once the timer hits 1:30
>Repeat until you get to the outpost

Anyone have some Destructor Girl skins they would like to share?

>If we only get like 1k UC an hour (from arena
Use UCx2 Ticket, win one match, get to top 10 or one title reward, get 500UC. That's just 10 minutes.

so power cards actually help you in the arena? or is it just for the duration of that quest?

>>5508462
Power-up cards only affect you for the duration of a quest. If you start a new quest the power-ups are erased. If you come back to a quest using Resume, though, you get to keep the cards.

The cards don't affect you in the arena, but entering the arena doesn't reset them.

>>5508444
Because we can all get top 10 or a title reward... right. In my case it's probably better for me to farm quest mode...

But the X2 UC ticket costs 1k and lasts an hour... and I make 500 UC every 30 minutes normally in quests...

hmm, I make 1000 UC in profit every hour either way. I suppose i should stick to money farming on the weekends or during events and just fight in the arena/missions/boss quests the rest of the time.

What are some good tuneups? Also what kind of things does the "cosmic premium pack" give you?

>>5508444
You don't even have to win. Join a match in progress, chances are it'll be on the verge of ending. Go in and shoot some stuff, make approx 500k with a UC*2 item in under 5 minutes. Then leave and join another match in progress.

Win or lose it's approximately twice as fast as waiting for an entire match to occur.

>>5508519
I like the GTA tune up: Grand Tech Alpha - +3 TEC, -2 STR, +20 cost or so. It's a big power boost if you're an air shooter with no melee, though it kills your Wonder Bit a lot.

>>5508524
Just to add to this, joining a match means you're either winning or losing. If you lose you don't feel so bad, since "the team was already losing", and if you win (or even singlehandedly turn the match around and score 1st place by stealing all the kills since everyone's already wounded and using lots of items hurr) it makes you feel AWESOME.

what was int on weapons? the speed of re-using it?

>>5508518 But the X2 UC ticket costs 1k and lasts an hour... and I make 500 UC every 30 minutes normally in quests...
You're doing it wrong.
>>>/m/5279560

Also, you'll rake in points much faster if you join a game late-game since some opponents will become bonus balloons by having 2star/3star/crown above their heads. Kills isn't that important, however damaging bonus balloons nets you a lot of contribution and score.

>>5508593
Holy shit. I've been playing wrong.

BRB, grinding UC

>>5508620

That's during the 2x UC/Drop/exp weekends tough, which just ended. You'll have to wait till the next weekend.

The thing is that if you use UC/Drop boosters during the weekends they stack multiplicatively. 3x UC/ Drop = 2x3 = 6x Drop rate and 6x UC gain when you pick up UC drops.

I love it when I chase after the enemy and he runs into his powerspot behind some arties and think that he's safe.

I fly in sporting twin viper shields kill him with my shoulder rifle, and make it out with 1, sometimes 2 shield gone and near full health.

>>5508668
I just save a flame pillar for such a situation, or just sneak in behind them.

Okay tune ups are a waste of time and money. 3 times at 85% and only one success? Not to mention the boosters are gonna be cash shop. Asian %s are bullshit as usual.

>>5508712
flame pillar is easy to dodge, a sway dash is enough to avoid it.

>>5508754
okay great, I do one at 50% and get it. Waste of fucking money.

what are those areas? I'm still stuck in the E areas or something.

>>5508755
Do arty bots get sway? I never use it myself, air person.

But it's usually hard to dodge it when it's coming from behind or the side of the power spot, I find. Hard to see it coming.

Any word on how they plan to transition from beta to service and when?

>>5508765
Quit humping the power spot so hard. Thats probably the most annoying thing alot of bad players do. Dip and sip the power spot for the buff through.

>>5508781
First they take any bot you leveled up, then dismember it before your eyes as it screams and struggles and begs - first for them to stop, then for the pain to end.

>>5508661
Goddamn it. Explain that earlier, still, it doesn't explain how you got 30k, I stayed in each area until I ran out of time, ammo, or both and I got jack shit. Even at 6x it doesn't explain anything, I should have gotten 5k but oh joy of joys, the same 300 UC I've always gotten.

>>5508786
>Quit humping the power spot so hard. Thats probably the most annoying thing alot of bad players do.
>implying I'm not the one using the flame strike on the bad players

The most fun time I had was in Wide Glacier, when I got two hurricane blows and managed to blow the ENTIRE enemy arty team right down from the power spot to my own power spot where all the melee folk were. Some of the arty bots had power spot activated, too.

Best trolling to both sides ever.

>>5508805
Also: Both sides were heavily damaged and healing at the time.

Dohohohoho.

just got stardust cannon, and it's...weird. the rate of fire makes it difficult to strafe past enemy lines without the barrel somehow getting pointed in a weird direction and hitting nothing. Admittedly, it's probably because shadens move so ridiculously fast while boosting.

>>5508794

flailing crims? sounds good man.

>>5508818
If you move fast get a fast firing weapon. Stardust cannon's for sniping with or alpha-striking.

>>5508794
That I'm aware of. At least they don't add the screams like a certain MMO does.

But I was wondering if they'll just jump straight into service after a reset - or if there will be some downtime in between. I remember how much momentum Valkyrie Sky lost due to its long downtime before full service.

wait, there's slow air? It seems slightly counter intuitive, considering how speed reliant strafing seems to be.

>>5508840
Less emphasis on fast, and more emphasis on sneaky. Go up to a high place, drop down a fair bit behind the enemy, alpha strike (FIRE ALL GUNS) and run away after you've killed one enemy or stripped a couple of health bars. Stardust cannon's best in that role, since it hits hard and has decent range.

GMs have said that they'll have another "open beta" after the wipe, which doesn't have a wipe at the end.

So chances are that they won't begin with cash shop items right after current beta ends.

>>5508859
Actually I don't think the GMs ever said anything like that.

>>5508859

Oh, awesome! Thanks. I've been really wanting to know this.

>>5508912
Note: the person telling you this is doing so over the medium: 4chan.

Believe what he/she says at your own risk.

>>5508926
eh, there'd be no benefit or troll value in being misleading there.

>>5508932
But I'm pretty sure the GMs never said anything like that. I remember them saying that there might be another beta before the wipe, but that there will be a wipe before the cash shop starts.

>>5508932
>troll value in being misleading
Uhhh....

Well, never mind. It's not so far away that it'll matter one way or the other.

Yeah well I'm pretty sure GM said that during one of the first days. However we don't know how they'll handle *cash* items during this "second open beta" as it would be rater foolish if players were able to buy those cash items using only UC as how they can right now.

>>5508850
I dunno. the second I get anywhere close, I tend to get saturated with missiles and shit, and have difficulty getting away even if I'm already flying, much less get off the ground after an alpha strike.

My Seraph skin, as requested again.

Everyone loves shimapan!

>>5508951
Which items are going to be cash only, anyway? Garapon is cash I believe, but honestly, I've got all my gear through the UC store and from arena matches. The only thing I've got from Garapon was Lily Rain Majalis (I didn't get a Lily at the start) and Ghost Wing arms for my Crimrose. And perhaps an auto beam rifle, but I hardly use it over my old beam rifle.

Of course you could probably just find out by directly asking one of the GMs. Either during events, or while they're playing in the arena.

>>5508961
Sneak around the backside and find a way in. The passage may be tight, but penetrating all the way feels good, man.

>>5508966
You should make more skins, Florette.

>>5508970
This is just my guess but:

Some of the bots in UC shop.
Level limit removers
Anything star coin
All time limited items
garage expansion
faction leader voices
garapon
Cosmos Harmonics
Slut Protectors

>>5509003
>Level limit removers
>All time limited items
>Cosmos Harmonics
>Slut Protectors
Fuck. Well, my sluts didn't need THAT much protection, so screw it.

Is there going to be a better way to get Star Coins? Because I really want me my Prop bits.

>Some of the bots in UC shop.
Read: All of the bots in the UC shop right now except for regular Crimrose. Better get used to this guy.

>>5509003
>Cosmos Harmonics
Not like they work anyway. I'll just risk my sluts. It's a waste of cost too.

>>5509031
>All of the bots in the UC shop right now except for regular Crimrose
You have no idea how happy that makes me, a crimrose-anti-air flier.

>>5509031
What the fuck? So is 70% of the game based on cash money?

>>5509031
I'm already used to it and want one of my very own.

>>5509051
As opposed to 100% yes.

>>5508961
Have you tried finding the high ground? Like you can use pillars and odd bits of tall terrain to get a height boost.

Granted I only play pink flying girl bot nowadays, so I don't know how bad L AIR has it.

>>5509031

One of the gms said the starting bots will be the same, so that means you can probably buy lily and jikun.

>>5509051
>>5509054
Random parts will still drop, right? There's a lot of mechs that can't be bought in the cash shop or with UC so those should still be available, it'll just take ages to get full bots.

>>5509067
Yes, random part bots, like Build Arm and Elme S. will still drop randomly. But outside of starter selection, rank up, and special events where you can exchange UC for Rt (hear you have to pay out the nose) you're not see a lot of the bots in the beta.

discuss

>>5509166
>please_DIE.jpg

>>5509266

>>5509270
>thank_you,_anonymous,_my_reaction_image_folder_is_in_another_computer.png

>>5509031

>he expects it to be exactly the same as jp CB

>>5508804
I don't know what you're doing wrong, I just got about 2000 from the first zone.
The drop rates really seem lower than on weekends.

Maybe you don't kill enough stuff?

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I am raping with the Aquila + Stardust Cannon. Should I stick with it through Rank D or should I get a new mech?

>>5508966
Take it for what you will. I cleaned up the edges on the bottom of the legs. Very nice work.

>>5509572

This is only for Seraph Crimrose right?

>>5509634
yes

Any Destructor Girl skins around?

The Lily Rain swimsuit skin off the japanese site, for those who wanted it.

>>5510418
>cost higher than score WITH award
>4th place

>>5510510

If you haven't noticed, half of cost is removed from your score everytime you die. I'd have 4000+ score if I didn't die a single time there.

>>5510552
You still lost.

>>5510510
MELEE AIR MOTHERFUCKER

So is registration broken? A friend of mine tried to sign up, but the email was never sent. I tried to sign up with a dummy account to see if it was working, and I didn't get one either.

>>5510742
>run around dropping hippodrones in shuffle match with shooty air and no melee weapons
>everyone is arty
>get Sword Master award and 1st place

Why is melee in this game so incredibly stupid to control?
I wanted to play melee at first, but after finding out every attack sends you 100 feet in a direction I got tired of it. It is mashy and half random as to who you lunge at.
So then I changed to being a multi-boomerang build.
But boomerangs can only be fired straight ahead, you can't fire them up at targets? And they don't hit on the way back? Am I somehow misusing them?
So now I am left looking for some kind of shotgun/close range strafing build.
I am looking for something tough that gets in the face of an enemy and wrecks it flat.
Can anyone suggest good robots and weapons for that?

>>5511043
stardust cannon aquila, tuned to have max tec

>>5511043
The jikun melee bots are actually...good? The lunges are VERY good, since they keep your bot moving and not getting shot at by 50 lasers.

>>5511043
You're looking for medium/large artillery. You just need to shoot missiles, keep moving, and keep the fuck out of melee bots/the front line in general.

Your robot will cost and arm and a leg and is a favorite target, so better be careful. No one likes people dying with 1000++ cost robots.

What should I use on my Lily Rain before I get a Raid Rifle?

What is up with this game?
Like 90% of people playing are fucking artillery.
Is the balance god awful or what?

>>5511682
Its universal in everygame, bad players like to play defensive campy roles.

Luckily 2-3 LNDs can dominate 8-9 arty easily. Now problem is finding someone to actually play LND.

>>5511682
No, it's just really easy to learn Art. Land is almost random and Air requires a lot of hit and run or good pursuit skills.

Got a good skin for my Mecha Jetter Girl so I'm gonna use her. Of course, since I can't swap like any of my parts, I guess that's more space for tune-ups. What should I focus on?

>>5511682
Japanese CB (one timezone) is less lag because their internet is fast across the country. In this international CB, people connect from every side of the world and hence, lag will always be a problem.

Fighting as melee LND in frontline is dangerous for this reason. One short lag and you'll miss your attack or suffer damage or die. It's far more rewarding to play Artilleries with their lock-on missiles and being always far from the frontline.

>>5511711
If you're good at dodging then you probably just need stealth system and quick boost.

>>5511702
I don't see how land can dominate artillery at all.
Land can't jump or fly worth shit.
Artilleries get into huge groups of 5-10 faggots that camp on good terrain, approaching said circlejerks results in being hit by a spam of shit. Artillery rape air, and go even vs other artillery, so there is just no balance. Only air can get to them, but air takes bonus damage.
Hero land robot tries to break up the clusterfuck of artilleries, tries to jump up a mountain and climb ramps, gets smashed by tons of homing shit and stunned/knocked down/etc. He fails to make it up, he dies.
On the rare occasion you do climb the mountain you start hitting melee buttons and fling your own damn self off the mountain like a retard because melee has no control.
Due to the way scoring works and the fact friendly fire exists and there seems to be no reason to play anything but artillery. I just don't understand how a game designer can be so dense.

I'm awake again.

>>5508593
I guess I know what I'm going to do with my weekly WIZ prizes!

>>5508781
http://www.cosmicbreak.com/info/topic/news/1291
But they never did say if there was going to be a second Open Beta.

>>5508859
Interesting method of transition. Does seem doubtful though according to the above link.

>>5511706
My opinion is that LND is about having a computer that doesn't suck and wrecking everyone's artillery with your giant sword. AIR is really hard to play since if two or more people shoot you down, with the amount of TGH you have, you're likely to get stunlocked into a vegetable and implode before you know what hit you (this is why Shaden is terrible as an AIR robot to learn how to play because its ridiculously long one shot boost gauge spoils everyone who uses it... even me). ART is great if you're not in a crowded place or if the other team is not a bunch of LNDs; actually, that happens a lot to WIZ, doesn't it? SUP can't be put in any one category, but I enjoy playing my Pulsardio Gamma, even if it's defensive, campy, and pretty much ART in every way.

>>5508156
I didn't think anyone actually read Girls with Ties. Personally, I think the current version is a trainwreck (along with Trash of the New Generation) just because I didn't plan it out like my other adventures. I am thinking of revamping Girls with Ties and actually *think* of doing a plan this time.

>>5511768
I'm getting the vibe from your message that you're charging into the group of art alone?

You should have some other LND or AIR backing you up before you try doing that or yes, you do get gangbanged. But if there are enough of you, you can completely tear apart a group of ART, especially if they're power spot camping.

>>5511702 Luckily 2-3 LNDs can dominate 8-9 arty easily

>>5511817
So a land robot requires others to do their job?
Without others to coordinate with what does a land robot do?
Run around the periphery skirmishing? You'll get owned by air, or have missiles rained on your head.
Defend your base from other land robots? May as well play artillery if you're 'defending' your power spot.
The whole idea is to charge into battle I thought.

>>5511768
What? Are you just runnning up there or something? Get proper level upgrades and some backup. 3 or 4 Lnd absolutely destroy huge groups of Art.

>>5511868
Target individual Art units. Lily Rains, especially.

It's basically the same with every class. Try using an Art solo. You'll die real quick if there's a Lnd on you. It's stupid to do ANYTHING solo, unless you're just doing hit and run.

>>5511791
You can use SUP's versatility to fuck up LND fags that come too close, you can get sword guard and don't take extra damage. Equip some fucking lasers and a melee weapon.

>>5511915

Jikun was made to flank, pick a target and solo. Fucker moves so fast he can have 3 Arts on him and only get hit two or three times.

Stupid Garapon! I got that knife 4 times already and I still haven't got my Raid Rifle.

>>5511868
Don't charge in from the front unless you've got allies right behind you. Instead try to get'em from the flank, you can beat down an arty or two before some of the enemy team gives a damn about you.

If the enemy is clustered, try to use your target as a shield to soak up shots for you. Keep bouncing around targets, friendly fire can do about 10-20 damage to enemy bots if you can drag it out long enough. Having a fire pillar powerup will buy you tons of time to run about raping faces. Melee wonderbits are awesome too since they'll help stun other people around you.

question: do multiple shields stack? or how does that work?

pic related

>>5512261
It'll deflect pretty much any attack that isn't explosive (because explosives do splash damage, you know) until the shield breaks, then you have no shield until you respawn with him again.

You can still be damaged if they hit you from behind or if they manage to shoot in the center and miss all your shields somehow.

This might not be right though.

>>5510729

Sure is a lame comeback when your first post fails, doesn't matter because I felt satisfied as FUCK after that match. Floppydick was being butthurt earlier and then bawwing about me "not being manly" or whatever. Then I sure showed him by outmeleeing his generic mighty toughstack bynes with my shortsword proteanblade dog.

pic related, its melee dog build

>>5512124
Six out of my nine tries with machine 3 have gotten me tune up kits.

>>5512261
My baltheon's two shields seem to end up breaking separately.

>>5512722

Got destructor girl 3 times in a row once. I think I've junked 7 or so of them so far.

>>5512261

each shield has like, 150 hp or so (I think) which take blocks shots if they hit the shield before hitting you. So yeah one shield can break while the other holds.

You should use non-huge shoulder arms so that the shields cover more of your bots body too.

>>5512673
This is my byne :C

I need more slots for maximum wonder bit inefficiency

>>5512836

looks generic, except for shino instead of hound dog core. I've seen so many bots like that but then those guys have probably seen gaijin own with it and thought they'd just try to copy and do the same.

>>5511929
But I like my machine guns!

>>5512261
>>5512673
>>5513044
Geez, you people are rich, I'd like to have that much to throw at garapon.

>>5512673

Skins fucking where?

How do you people have hundreds of thousands of money?
I can't even afford to try out different robots to see what I like.

>use NoScript
>go to cosmicbreak.jp
>see everything fine
>go to cosmicbreak.com
>can't see shit

>>5513262
Mentioning Girls with Ties was mostly a joke.

[spoilers];_;[/spoilers]

>>5513305
UC x2 Gamma during the weekends, probably.

girls with ties :>

>>5513305
We go to money events. They spawn millions of UC for the taking, and all you have to do is kill some trees in the quest area. There will be a lot of lag and competition, however.

I believe the next one is on the 3rd.

They'd better give us enough Rt to buy a bot of our choice. Fuck, I'll drop this game like a brick if all they'll give us are crappy materials and some x3 coupons.

>>5513305

Oh and also, >>5513452 here. If all you want is like a robot or two, I can spot you. Got kinda lucky at the event before last.

>>5513306
I don't go to just .com, just skip that page by going to .com/home

>>5513470
No, what I meant is that nothing after that loads. I can't see the notices, drop-down menus, even the links won't work.

>>5511768
>>5511043
The reason you fly so far with melee IS so you can make that last bit of space to the artillery.

Air is actually pretty good at this, since not only can they go flying through an enemy at full speed, they can fly off and get away.

Melee, you just swing your mouse around and spam the button. Chances are you won't be hit BECAUSE of flying around whenever you hit something. It's not really random either if you learn to aim, but some things are unnecessarily hard to control. You do get to lock on and aim at them at least.

>>5513489
They both use java for the menus and the /jp/ ones won't load either. You probably can't tell though.

>>5513453
In JP version at least, there are events where you can convert UC to RT/Star Coins.

Fuck yeah, I feel vindicated now.

>>5513713
tablecat is so dreamy~

>You probably can't tell though
That's impossible. It probably has something to do with the fact that CB.com uses ajax.

I don't think land sucks as much as you guys are saying. I play as art and I've seen small land bots to literally warp like motherfuckers and have the whole team busy trying to take one of them down.

>>5513800

This. Part of the advantage of S Land isn't killing off ART (which is of course part of it) but if an S Land manages to keep the entire enemy team busy for even 10 - 20 seconds, they have done their job, as the rest that lil' guy's team will have moved into position to start picking people off by the truckload.

>>5513800
This is true. I cannot believe just how easy LND is to play.

Think about it!

Who is the natural predator of the ART? It is LND. For LND, it is super easy to kill ART. Especially with 50% damage reduction from explosives! Not to mention, LND seemingly teleports all over the fucking map, so ART can't even hit LND at short range anyways.

Now, who is the natural predator of the LND? It is AIR. However, while LND is jumping all over the fucking map, AIR cannot properly aim at LND!

This is unbalanced because it's extremely easier for LND to kill ART, than it is for AIR to kill LND.

Trust me, I main crimrose. Most of my kills are not against jikuns and other super fast LND bots. Sometimes I even ignore LND because I know I can't damage them so I skip them and go for a bot that's standing still like a moron.

>>5513906
True. S Air needs something that can slow those fuckers down, kinda like the blue trap.

>>5513906

Same. I main crim, and 90% of my kills are against L air and L art. Art will rape me if they hit me, but there isn't much art can do about a crimrose screaming by at mach 2, blasting them with the bird machinegun with double fire rate from the power spot (taking off 100+ hp) and screaming away before the first volley of missiles even comes close to where they originally were.

That said, if you get unlucky enough to eat one of those missiles, you'll be stunned on the ground and raped by the entire enemy team at once, but it is totally worth the risk.

>>5513939
That support bot (winberl?) that has the vine internal weapon can stop a melee dead in its tracks. However, EVEN THAT IS HARD TO AIM when LND is zooming all over the screen.

However, if your trap works, you will have effectively shut down the LND bot. Still, I think it's pretty stupid that you need SUP + team to take out a single LND bot.

You should just need 1 AIR bot to take out 1 LND bot.

>>5513906
>This is unbalanced

Implying that arts are any better at hitting shaden booster / seraph wing / propeller bit 40 fly airs shooting at them from right above their heads.

>>5513987
This. My Toybox is only useful at extremely long distances or against other Art.

>>5513906
It's actually the weapons and not the unit types that units are weak to, and because of this, the Artillery > Air > Land > Artillery sankaku is a lie.

Artillery is about guns and range, land is about melee and speed, and air is about both. The support bots with their shields and paralyzing tentacles are the defense against land and artillery. Air is just about swooping in and harassing or picking off anything land and artillery didn't kill.

The Small ones shouldn't be taken as an indicator of anything. Lily acts like she's an air unit. Crimrose isn't good at doing air things. It's not even fast and is probably better as a melee. Jikun is decent as a land but only because of the inbuilt melee.

Crimrose should have had a inbuilt weapon too. She's the only one that has to upgrade to get it and then neither of them is actually a weapon. What the fuck is with that.

>>5513987

They are if they actually know how to play art besides humping the power spot all throughout the match.

>>5513987
Not really. I rape AIR bots, especially Crimroses fairly consistently.

I would say that the balance between ART and AIR is evenly matched. There are good AIR players, but there are also good ART players. None of these players are an excuse.

>>5513987

Air doesn't kill even S Land in only 3 - 5 hits though.

Is there any reliable way to get the Gachapon robots?
I really wanted to try one of the small supports. The one that has area vines and drawgun arms.
I was thinking of trying a melee robot with that as the base. Draw, lockdown, and chop them up. Is this even a good idea?
Also how is the Sigma Clock or whatever? Is the time stop any good?

>>5514038
> Crimrose isn't good at doing air things.

I strongly disagree. Please see this screenshot >>5513713

>>5513939
They have the plasma/electron/paralyzer guns, drawgun, and the web shooter thing.

>>5514077
That's a Seraph, a cash shop item upgrade to make your Crimrose on equal footing with the other two starters.

>>5513713
Why is there a tablecat guild?

>>5514084
I have no tried the web shooter or the draw gun, but I can tell you that the stun guns are terrible against LND bots. They are excellent at knocking other AIR bots out of the sky though.

>>5514075
>Is there any reliable way to get the Gachapon robots?
>reliable Gachapon

>>5514075

you can't do anything while performing the vine move. some retard locked down my crim during a 1v1 situation right in front of them. It was just hold down mouse1 and let the beam balls hit an inanimate target.

>>5514075
I looked up the name. It's called Winberrl Vesca and Winberrl Ellen.
Can you take the arms off an Ellen and put it on a Vesca, then put a shield and a melee weapon in the hand slots while keeping the vine attack, drawguns and some melee weapon?
If so does anyone have any Winberrls they don't want?

>>5514118
I've used the drawguns. They're good vs artillery on edges.
>>5514122
That is... really bad. Can you move while projecting the wall at all from the other Winberrl?

>>5513939

I think its more that S Air needs more weapons with decent range and sustained fire rate. The only one I've found that can consistently hit those speedy S Land bastards is the bird rifle. Or maybe the wide beam gun. And problem with the bird gun is that it runs out of ammo pretty much instantly.

If they only made the folded gun AMJ with a faster fire rate, I would just used two of those and two bird guns on my crim. Which is what I do when I want to perch on a cliff and snipe artillery. Theres something wonderful about doing 50% of an L Art's HP in about 2 seconds and them not even knowing what the hell just happened.

>>5514139
Get an Auto Beam Rifle.

It is beautiful. I think it's garapon 3.

>>5514145

I have 15 of them, and I use them quite often. The three shot burst is a major problem though, because the lag sometimes prevents my clicks from registering. This results in me not firing at all for up to 5 seconds while I madly try clicking to get it to fire again.

And no, I'm not timing it wrong, outside of matches I can get the auto beam gun to fire pretty much non-stop.

Sometimes I just go birdgun + auto beam rifle so I get the best of both worlds.

Does anyone use a Thoarla?
How is the Jupitizer?

>>5514170
I use Thoarla. Her core weapon does lower damage compared to jupiter but hits three locations while jupiter hits only one. That is the only change I could notice.

So explain why air needs to take 2x damage from explosive weapons while art needs to take 1.4x from close combat.

What do lnd take from beam guns? Probably also 1.4.

>>5514185
Because is much easier to dodge and escape with Air.

>>5514185
Because it's easy to dodge explosive projectiles as an AIR bot. Meanwhile ART gets raped by melee even if there's wasn't any multipliers.

Beam weapons do 1.4x damage to LND bots, I really think this needs to be 2x as well, since it's so damn hard to aim accurately at something that's flying all over the map.

>>5514211

Though admittedly, if my crimrose flies through the power spot and gets right to the front lines, she can kill even an L LND in a single strafing run.

>>5514202
>>5514211
It's easy to dodge missiles that come from blind angles from enemies off screen and home in on you?

I could understand if it was only bazookas, but homing and 2x damage is too much.

>>5514228

With enough fly you can just fly in a straight line and literally outfly most missiles.

>>5514228
>>5514211
matter of fact, air should be the one with homing missiles to use against land types. Airplanes use missiles and bombs, not swords and lasers.

Is solo mode supposed to suck ass? Shine busters seem like the worst robots in the game. They're support robots without a support move? Why?

>>5514228

Yeah, sometimes when I use my Saggitary with the howitzer amj, I just sit there lobbing missiles over cliffs at air units. And there isn't a damn thing they can do about it because the first missile comes in completely blind, stuns them, and the rest rain down on them while the land units calmly walk up and finish them off.

To be honest, the stunning in this game is pretty stupid and really takes away some of the epic feel that air battles could have.

>>5514228
Well what did you expect? AIR to be overpowered against ART? ART is supposed to kill AIR anyways.

I'm pretty sure you get a warning if there's an incoming missile at you, unless the ART bot has sniper sight, in which case it's his prerogative.

>>5514268

The homing missiles are a bit ridiculous considering how crowded things get sometimes though. Also, I'm surprised that no one has pointed out the fact that despite air units being called air units, they don't fly all that high or stay in the air that long.

Not trying to bitch about the game, just fantasizing about what I would have like to have seen from the game. Overall, I don't find it too difficult to avoid missiles. I either don't get in direct confrontations with ART, or if I'm 1 v 1 against one, I just zoom around a bunch avoiding missiles while blasting them into a smouldering pile of slag with weapons that have better range than their bazookas.

>>5514268
artillery is supposed to bombard land targets and air should be able to strike at it, yes. This game is completely reversed.

But I expect air to not get raped into oblivion, thus making land unable to be countered. Nothing else will die in a single salvo as much as an air.

Also air using missiles wouldn't make it overpowered against anything since they get 50% reduction. (which means air actually takes 4x damage from explosions)

nothing should be overpowered. the game should be balanced.

>>5514325

Say that to the zero saber who just zero stepped on top of you and instantly threw 3 throwing daggers at you hitting you for 72

>>5514325
It bugs me that machine guns reduce FLY by a chunk and lose a ton of accuracy when fired while flying. I wanna pull an A-10 and do strafing runs...

>>5514354
How is the Zero Step, anyway? I was considering getting a Zero Saber girl.

>>5514354
I'm not even sure what you are implying.

>>5514185 So explain why air needs to take 2x damage from explosive weapons
I have a better idea, explain to me why air units have so much HP.

>>5514432
You meant why they have 200 less hp than mechs of the same size class right>?

>>5514446
No. You're fucking retarded.

Haha, oh wow. Got accused of hacking. It's like I'm really back on Maplestory

>>5514383
He's saying that melee AIR really hurts ART since they are extremely weak to melee

Hey, uh, anyone got like a rar of all the CB art? I like it.

>>5514672
check pixiv

>>5514672
gelbooru works too.

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