/jp/ - Otaku Culture

By the way, server is down because they're "fixing the lag," if that's any comfort.

That's good

I haven't really bothered playing since launch day, are the arenas divided out or am I just going to get crapped on until I upgrade my bot?

>>5423624
horray.

>>5423632
There's some rooms reserved for lower ranks.

>>5423632
There are arenas for different rank groups, as well as a couple of 'anything goes' arenas. That doesn't necessarily mean that the players in the low level arenas are newbies, though.

Should I buy Misty Hollow anon?

>>5423647

This also doesn't mean the people in the higher ranked groups know what they're doing.

Dive in, you'll be about as good as everyone else except a small portion.

It's just me or after playing with huge lag for some time you get your brain "lagged" as well? I mean, I was in the kitchen getting a glass of water and then I was feeling a bit weird like I had to wait for a lag time to have the glass filled.

>>5423660
No, she sucks, sadly.

>>5423671
lol

>>5423660

Try her, figure out a way to use her. Her core ability is really powerful, but has it's downsides.

>>5423671

Consult a doctor.

Am I cute?

>>5423684
uguu~

My new bot!

Servers are up

Where do you guys get those nice skins?

>>5423778
Looks like they're making them themselves.

>>5423624
They way to fix the lag is to split the event over the servers. I have no idea why games act like it's a problem that can be fixed when they KNOW it's their shitty intertubes.

Is the 2nd gacha set worth it? I still need that sword for my jikun.

I realized earlier today that most of the robots that I've been using are going to be cash shop only once beta ends. Well, most likely anyway if I'm interpreting the Cosmic Break jp wiki correctly and of course assuming Cyberstep is going to do the same thing with the English version.

u guys are playin on japanese server or what? just checked out some vids of the game and it looks pretty fun

>u guys are playin on japanese server
Yes. Yes we are. Hurry and go there.

Now.

is the game totally free? no monthly fee crap?

>>5423853
It's free to play

however, you must pay if you want to use the good robots and weapons.

seems like there are other servers too, like hongkong, korea and taiwan

which one has the least lag? i'm in south east asia though

>>5423853
>is the game totally free?
Yes it's completely free, no charges ever. Ever moment you play is a massive loss in funds for them, but no matter! for they are all to glad to run themselves into bankruptcy so you can have fun.

>>5423879
The game is Japanese, so I'd go with the Japanese one, else pick the one in the language you speak.

>>5423820
I play a crimrose, and if ever we play this after beta, I'm still gonna use a crimrose, because she is kawaii. Plus it feels good to dominate a game with the bot that most people identifies as weak.

Tuning up will be a bitch though.

i'll assume the japanese server always gets the latest update so i'll try out the japanese server 1st i guess, i understand both jp, cantonese and chinese anyway

>they still play CB

>>5423948
>You think we care

>>5423964

Could someone please upload this cs2?

Original paintjob do not steal.

>>5424024
You know you can import that image directly, right?

>>5423913
Is that a badly painted school swimsuit? Png please

>>5424034
PHAZON POWERED.

Love my Seraphim. Totally worth leveling my original Crimrose to level 10 and paying 50k for the upgrade.

What are the "best" melee weapons? I've always gone full art and have no experience in close combat (unless it's running away).

>>5424110
Here you go pervert

>>5424236
Up to your own opinion. The only absolute best is the Jikun sibling's built in kicks and tackles.

No one uses throwing ones for some reason so they're either shit or no one takes a chance. The rapiers are best used when hovering. Crimrose spear arm is good or so I heard.

Maril March is really fun to use.

>>5424285
Dem beats!

>>5424212
Moo plays Cosumic breaku? Dam moo, why you gotta bring hate into a game I love ;~;

>>5424313
wat, I would do no such thing to this game. I love it too much.

>>5424024
I made that. It can't be imported to CB because of palette conflict with Paint Tool SAI format. It turns out you must edit it directly with Photoshop since it'll keep the format instead of replacing with 24bit. This version should work with Import Image option.

>Should I buy Misty Hollow anon?
Misty Hollow SIN is thief/disabler. Equip the scythe as right click. Sneak to enemy's flank/side, when you got those artillery in range, E+right click, dash forward, E+right click to sever either their AM or HD, repeat or slice or run away.

Important tune up would be boost dash.

See those 8 bazooka artillery that pawns your AIR allies' asses? Misty's core ability will make her invulnerable to any attack except melee while activated so those bazookas can't do shit. It has limited 10 charges and 6 seconds time limit though. Make sure to use her severing special attack before you ran out of time.

>>5424513
She has an attack that specifically severs stuff and not just due to damage?

>>5424354
Does only Misty SIN version do that?

>>5424148
Well I think I finally have a name for that mech now.

If I wanted to play a free mech game, I'd probably play bootfighter windom xp, but I'd have nobody to play online with.

>>5425159
FUNNELS!

>>5425251
You mean those little bits every single mech uses?

>>5425370
No, I mean funnels.

Whats the difference between misty hollow and misty hollow sin?

>>5425391
So you mean those little knockoff bits EVERY mech uses.
Or were you talking about Fin funnels?

>>5425453
I'm talking about the wings that look like the funnels of the Nu Gundam.

>>5425404

The stat difference in the cores. +1 tec, +1 fly compared to +2 tgh, I believe

>>5425501
So you mean Fin funnel.

Normal funnels are generally more like the things the robots use when that energy bar charges.

>>5424532
>>5424574
Misty Hollow's Dark Mist (BD) release attack has extra 70 Range compared to SIN (BD4) but doesn't sever enemy's part. Misty Hollow also has +1 STR, +1 FLY, -2 TGH compared to SIN.

Reported
Back to /v/ with you

I played this for a bit the day beta started and stopped. Will I get raped if I join arenas now? I have like no new parts. Also, is there a cheap artillery robot? I started as air and didn't like it that much.

>>5426087
Everyone gets raped in arena except that one guy who gets like 5000 points, 4000 contrib, and 10 kills, while having 5500 cost.

>>5426106
Actually it only costs me ~800.

Is there anything better than the handy bazookas for Lily?

>>5426729
4x Rage Machine Guns

Channel your rage in bullet form.

i just made my 1st character, and it was the artillery type, did i make the right decision?

>>5426740
When I want to take it easy I give nano machinegun and beam machinegun to my Lily. You see flying AIR? Just spam your usual beams. You see any enemy units straying too far to your line? Go there, land, and spam all your shot short range.

Stay moving, stay alive.

http://cosmicbreak.forumotion.com/guides-f2/guide-to-artillery-units-t239.htm

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5355655
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5360055
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5369630
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5377476
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5385548
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5390103
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5399927

>>5424212

I was disappointed with how much they cost. Mine's over 800 already. Tune ups will make her even more than that. The 10 extra fly is nice though.

>>5426772
It doesn't really matter, you get new bots very soon. And more you'll get in the garapon.

Can anyone explain me how the bee quest works? I tried to solo it but I ended fighting a small fly instead of the giant bee.

>>5428864
more treasures = stronger boss.

>>5428864
Collect treasure in the levels leading up to the outpost. Certain bee levels require a certain amount of treasure.

>>5428886
>>5428903
Thanks.

>>5426772
You get the air and land unit later on anyways I think.

Is lag still a problem for people? I noticed the major lag that everyone experienced before is gone, but I keep having problems with my bullets not doing damage and enemies teleporting all over the place.

>>5428935
They reset the servers earlier and the lag went away almost completely for a while... is it building up again?

Fuck maybe they should just reboot the server every day.

>>5428960
It only happens when there's events, what with the spawning of a million ghost trees and every BR in the world joining in.

Upgraded to Seraph
Thong loli rest in peace ;_;

>>5429045
She is the same, you know. Just awakened her powers.

>>5429045

I wish there was a way to turn mine back. What a disappointment.

Greetings from /v/, what game is this? Cosmic Break? Or is that an ability?

>>5429091
Indeed it is Cosmic Break. We've been curbstomping you guys and /m/ for a while now, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it yet.

>>5429261
> We've been curbstomping you guys and /m/

Not really. Step into an arena match and you'll see that /jp/ gets anally raped just as much as any other faction.

WIZ just has more points due to our faction playing lots of shuffle games and doing quests and missions.

Commencing moe dump.

>>5429754
It's more that all of the best WIZ players are in shuffle matches against the other best WIZ players because no one else is fun to fight ;_;

>>5430344
I love how you say that as if you have a choice what team you're on in Shuffle matches.

>>5430023
flat-chested moe :3

These need translations

>>5430411

It's the only way to union fight against own faction. That's simply how it is.

>>5431192
nope, team matches are how you fight against your own faction

WIZ was just stomping our asses in DOS this afternoon, shit sucked. Everyone on WIZ was in seraphs and other expensive shit while I was still using my starter crimrose and getting my ass kicked 1v1; meanwhile some crazy jikans were totally raping the rest of our team, couldn't even hit them with beams they were so damn fast.

I missed every money event earlier, then when I'm finally on for them they get fucked up (friday) then canceled (saturday) so I'm damn poor.

I did just get some good garapon luck today though, got 6 bots out of 10 rolls (crimrose, gothic lily, jikan hu, ghost raider, baltheon, pyscho formula) Only other time I did it I got a toybox + garbage then said fuck this shit. Working on leeching some of them xp in arena while continuing to main crimrose. Glad I finally have some arty other than toybox, though I wish I had a Winberrl for support instead of an A.Maid loaded with mismatched parts.

>>5430031
reposting pic for those who wanted incest fanart

I'm always at the bottom 10 of the rankings.

Please teach me how to be better at this game

>>5431274

What type of unit do you use?

>>5431238
DOS was just stomping our asses in WIZ this morning, shit sucked. Everyone on DOS was in seraphs and other expensive shit while I was still using my starter crimrose and getting my ass kicked 1v1; meanwhile some crazy jikans were totally raping the rest of our team, couldn't even hit them with beams they were so damn fast.

>>5431288
artillery loli and flying loli

>>5431302
Your equipment for each of them could help as well.

>>5431302

Artillery loli: shoot flying lolis
Flying loli: shoot land shotas. Large land are easy targets. Toyboxes are also easy. Get air loop if you don't have it already.

rifle on art and shotgun on air

>>5431296
Yeah, it was kinda sad. WIZ was scattered all over the place so we couldn't back each other up either.

>>5431296
I guess I should have played this morning then.

Actually I usually do pretty decent scorewise due to not dying or only dying once, but it sucks when your team can't provide you with any help. Also I'm hosed if my crimrose gets destroyed early and I have to use something else; before I was using LazFlamme as my 2nd bot (and sucking, I really wanted to make her useful but I've about given up on that), now that I'm leveling my new bots I have Lily as 2nd, but I have no fucking clue how to use her well (for one thing, what the hell are all these faint targeting circles I'm seeing everywhere?).

There's some people who always rank top 5 even when their team loses. How do they do it?

>>5431436

by not sucking

:3c

>>5431417
Those are targets for your sub weapon.

>>5431447
how do i not suck?

>>5431492
It can't be helped.

okay I'll be honest and say that lazflame is pretty lame unless if you tune it up, but then it is quite cheap cost-wise which sort of makes up for it.

You get score by shooting things, by using items and by healing or buffing others if you are support. You get more points for shooting high-ranked and high cost people.

When you die half of your BP worth will be substracted from the score. Just shoot and time it right so you actually hit people and don't die, really.

Stick with your team and don't go solo unless if you know what you're doing. Don't use high cost bots unless if you're fairly sure you can dish out the damage of the bots worth, it's fully possible to get toprank / awards with bot at 900 cost.

Your primary ranged weapons take a little time to align towards a red target, the align speed differs between weapons but holding down mouse1 as long as the red circle is there is in most cases, a waste of ammo.

which weapons are best for crimrose>?

>>5431574
Limited plasma gun / beam machine gun / wide beam gun / maybe normal plasma gun, haven't tried this one should be good for damage.
Paralyzer for support, really shitty damage though.

To give you an idea I typically expect paralyzer to hit about 10-15 a shot, while wide beam hits about 20 and limited plasma hits 25+. Beam machine gun hits fast, but seems to have about the same dps as limited plasma, but also has shorter range. Ammo lasts longer from what I can tell though.

Lazflame is cute tough so I tend to have it out when I afk and stuff. I've tried playing with it for a but but the attack stats are just so low I don't expect to get higher than placed 5th, if things go well for me.

I love to use it on games where the enemy are just artilleries camping at a powerpoint. I just kill a few trees, then sneak behind them and then run around with a burner setting people on fire / dropping traps on top of their point / blastbombing. I die in most of the cases but it's really funny.

Think it's time to call it quits. It can't be helped. （´∀｀∩）

>>5431738
Ouch.

>>5431594
I use LazFlamme with a scouter rifle and a viper shield, and I usually rank top 3 with her since she can really survive on the field with stun regain and soul eater. Her stats, if untuned, are pretty sad though. I put Jikun legs on her just because they look cute. I hope I can finish tuning her before beta ends

>>5431738

Happens to me every time on that stage that's mostly tunnels. Feels bad.

>>5431738
Wow. That's pretty amazing. I guess that paints a picture of what you have to do to even hit 20th-30th place.

>>5431874

With 24 tec you have the damage to get kills. Using a low base damage weap>>5431874
(13 is relatively low) with low tec = no damage because it's all absorbed by other bots toughness stat.

Mine has sugoi~ tec

>>5432048
>21 walk
>11 str
>flamer
>melee

Do you guys know any jp skin sites?

Any advice on how to use and equip support units?

Anyone trying to play this on an 8400m GS? Getting under 30 fps in arena and town. Both cores of my processor hit 100%, and my gpu temp barely goes over room temperature. I don't get it.

how the fuck can we hack this for more money?

>>5432301

Mem editor

>>5432233
time to upgrade drivers to 25x

>>5431738
Not having much luck with the shield + raid rifle? You could pick up short boost for a huge bonus to survivability if you find yourself in a bad situation. Short boost usually lets me stay alive long enough to run my rifle, and sometimes even my danmaku dress, out of ammo before I bite the dirt.

Though this was the best score I've ever had, so I guess it's a bit of an exaggeration of worth.

Is there an event happening?

>>5432442
Did you delete your pic, or did 4chan eat it?

>>5432442
I posted the wrong picture, and now I'm not even sure what the hell I did as I can't find the right one.

>>5432499
I'm curious now, I want to see the picture

Someone go make this.

>>5432634
What does this do?

>>5432648
Makes everyone want to shoot you.

>>5432339
Still pretty bad.

Did the event start already?

You may choose only one.

>>5432780
It started like 20 minutes ago, lag and all. It's better abo keys this time since the GMS just toll them by the gate, but goddamn you cannot even move.

>>5432810
A mega milk logo would fit on the horse girl's titbraces.

>>5432810
she was drawn pretty small-chested for MEGA MILK

For once I'm surprisingly experiencing little to no lag.

>>5432857
That's the joke.

I think I'm going to stop playing and pick it up again when the game is officially released.

So many cash shop characters and equipments running around is terrible. I assume the exceptionally strong characters will be cash shop only.

>>5432892

Yes but, at least you have a chance to try them out for free during closed beta. Waiting for Open Beta isn't a good idea.

>>5432810
Winberll Ellen is pure love. And by pure love, I mean double drawgun + double ancient bazookas with burst fire bit love.

>>5432543
Here's a different one, this was one life as my lilly rain + shield/raid rifle, died near the end and just respawned, this is on the upper end of what I can do with her, damage wise, but not point wise.

>>5432892

>Implying the people better than you aren't using Crimroses and other basic robots.

How do I acquire the Wootree parts?

Wasn't the event STARTING?

Hey.

Did Taraku Uon draw this?

http://www.cosmicbreak.com/home

http://www.cosmicbreak.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/cosmicbreak_schedule.png

These links. These links right here, bookmark them. They will tell you everything, at all times.

The homepage is updated a few hour before events start, so you can know exactly what changes, if any, have taken place.

even over. collected 300k, go me.

>>5432944
If by "this" you mean the game art, I think it's by the same guy that drew Nanami, the Windows 7 mascot.

>>5432901

How much HP do you have?

>>5432901
What's different between Winberll Vesca and Ellen?

>>5432962
No, that fanart that got posted.

>>5432903
Nope. I eat up crimroses like it's nobody's business. Crimroses are the least of my problems in this game.

>>5432810
One Soviet Winberrl please.

>>5432951
logged back on late and couldn't even get through the first area due to everyone camping the key mobs; yet more wasted time on these "events" with nothing to show for it.

>>5432976
just about all the fanart here is by someone who goes by "skj" on pixiv, dunno anything else

>>5432901
Are ancient bazookas really worth the cost? 110 cost compared to 40 for handy bazookas doesn't really seem to be justified for the slightly higher damage, unless there's some hidden property to them that isn't reflected in the stats. Longer range seems like the main advantage but firing bazookas at max range rarely hits anyway unless the target is an idiot

Hotglue Botglue.

The thing about bazookas is that everybody who uses them is an idiot. Their is so short, they never reach me, and they actually think they're hitting me.

>>5433125
Ancient bazookas have higher "homing" stat, that is not shown on the text. The blast radius is slightly higher too.

Handy has 15 homing and 18 radius, ancient has 26 homing and 23 radius.

>>5433158

how did you find out the homing stat?

>>5433158
I see, thanks. I just put handy bazookas on my new Lily because she really doesn't have much cost capacity to work with (and her capacity cartridges suck). That's the nice thing about Crimrose I realized after just getting a Jikan and Lily; you can do just about anything you want with her after a few capacity upgrades, while Jikan and Lily have all their cost tied up in the core

So who's going continue playing after the beta?

>>5433347
why would you play it? Cash system is fucking stupid.

>>5433295
Jikun is highly customizable.

>>5433363
Name a good non-free system that would get people to spend money on the game.

Is there anyway to make a Lily useful or should I just use something else?

>>5433370
Stupid, MMOs should be made for my enjoyment not to make money. All companies that try to earn money off me need to go to hell.

>>5433370
Steam distribution with a few good DLC weapons

>>5433802
Use Maril March; she's a total pain to deal with.

>>5433158

I am also interested in where I can find full stats for weapons

>>5433836
Fuck man. If I was rich I would commission MMOs to be fun, no matter if the game is made at a loss. Then I would continue to fund it so it would be non-profit game.

>>5433125
I don't really know if they're worth the cost, but I like how the range is close to the same as my drawguns, and the damage output is pretty good.

It might be much better to have tuned-up an extra 140 HP than to use ancients over handys, though, if I hadn't used all the slots for +WLK already.

>>5433802
Misside Arms.

>>5434043
It would last one week and leave you in debt.

Also companies aren't necessarily rich.

>>5433364

Why would you put mistys scythe on a jikun? It's not that good..

>>5434396
If I was rich I would already have a source of income. I would be spending my spending money.

BRD is kicking our asses really really hard.

What are we NOT doing?

Probably not staying together or just too many newbies going rambo and rushing. Either that or you guys are fighting some of the top 20s and just getting out played. But don't worry, Wiz is still ahead of everyone by at least 100k points.

>>5434528
And what makes you think the employees of Cyberstep all have an alternate source of income?

Some anon in /a/ scanlated this manga, thought you'd be interested, it's canon.

http://www.mediafire.com/?izmmjznvtjj

I would totally host a private server of this if it was possible

>>5434444
Because it's an inbuilt arm weapon and it's all it could hold at the time and still have a gun.

Secondly, it's primary melee is the dash. The scythe will combo into the dash, adding a hit, and then the kick will kick in and add another hit, leading to more damage.

Also, the arms are good for adding strength. In fact, they were the best strength arms I have. Although that might just speak about the parts I have.

>>5434444
Because it's an inbuilt reasonable cost arm, instead of an expensive arm and a more expensive weapon. It's also the strongest melee weapon it could hold at the time and still have a gun.

Secondly, it's primary melee is the dash. The dash can combo into the scythe, adding a hit, and then the kick will kick in and add another hit, leading to more damage.

Additionally, the arms are good for adding strength. In fact, they were the best strength arms I have. Although that might just speak about the parts I have.

Besides all that, it looks cool.

>>5435832
Oh and there's a glitch or something where the dash ammo doesn't go down unless I hit with the scythe too, so I can repeatedly dash into people as much as I want.

Maybe it just takes both hits of the dash to count it down.

>>5435093
My original comment is here >>5434043

This shit was NEVER about Cyberstep. Now go fuck yourself for being so stupid.

High cost is masturbatory.

>>5436276

My Winberry is underpowered but fun to play with.

Tactics? New weapons perhaps? I've used the first 3 levels I got increasing her available points and she still seems underpowered with a plasma gun and a lance.

>>5437131
Hold people in place and kill them.

do any of the support bots have a repair bit or else seomthing support-y as the default bit so you don't have to constantly buy shit?

>>5434309
only problem with misside arms is you need a good chunk of extra cost capacity to be able to use them. But yeah that's one of the first things I thought about doing with my Lily, for now stuck with the handy bazookas and normal arms

crimrose arms best arms in the game

>>5436335
1255/1260 on small air high enough for you?

Does anyone here know a gate route that gets you all five memories? I wish to attempt soloing a Level 3 Berzelius since I managed to solo a level two Berzelius with 9 minutes left on the clock.

There's seems to be a golden bot dupe or something, anyone knows about it?
I'm pretty poor and it seems to be a good source of income.

>>5438056

I got the 2 star one about half HP solo, but the amount of damage it kept doing to me was ridiculous. How did you survive the seemingly unavoidable ground pound attack? It hits me even when I am flying and far away.

>>5438108
His ground pound doesn't always hit the ground. It hits wherever the lowest part of him is. So if he's way up in the air for whatever reason and does a ground pound, it won't hurt you if you're on the ground and will hurt you if you fly up. Kind of hard to tell the difference between the two. Easiest thing to do is just to have two dps bots and switch between the two without having to worry about dying.

man, this game has effectlively taken away from 4chan for the past 24 hours. Fun game is fun, though knowing it'll be shit when beta is over is rather saddening.

Is there a half-decent way to get non-buyable parts? You'd think that the unlimited quest mode would be the way, but the drop rates are terrible even at higher levels.

Also fucking squeaky volcano birds. Fuck volcano birds.

>>5438108
What >>5438128
said.

I have two DPS bots. A quad shotgun Crimrose and a quad shotgun Toybox with two misside arms.

Also does anybody know a 5 memory route?

>>5438137
>it'll be shit when beta is over is rather saddening.
No, I'm betting the otherwise. We'll see a lot of Crimroses and Lily Rains at the start of post-OB. Low-rank games will be much simpler and less omgmissileseverywhere.

Also as experience goes, rare or expensive (high cost lololol) mech mean jack shit if you don't know how to play. There'll be awesome player with the full backing of both skill and cash, but they won't outshine the skilled diehards with simple mechs.

Oh, so the winning union gets a prize every week?

>Low-rank games will be much simpler and less omgmissileseverywhere.
Yeah, thus, shit.

Just saw a Ralts, Hotglue sure has patience to make skins.

>>5437131
>My Winberry is underpowered but fun to play with. Tactics?
Stay with your group. Whenever you see straying Jikun in the midst it's time for action. Just try to catch him with your vine! If you miss your target, he'll still 'accidentally' run to your tentacle rape anyway due to lolkick.

are there any flame weapons for air units? trying to main thoarla frazia and exuipting her with <flamethrower> and flame rod.

>trying to main thoarla frazia
there's your problem

>>5438510
just trying to optimize it's built even if it's a shitty mech. not looking for picking the only 1-2 air bot that matters.

>>5438584
I haven't seen any flamethrowers besides the ones at the shop. So, yeah.

LET ME BACK ON.

Hey guys, is there any way to send robots from one account to another?
I registered on my own so I missed the golden zero saber, and I wanted to transfer it from a new account.

>>5438765
No,

but don't fret too much, zero saber sucks balls anyways

>>5438215
u mad, artillery?

>>5439693
No, I Air.

>>5437584
Do you know what raising the two internal core upgrades on seraph does? I've heard it all sorts of things like raising stats or making the abilities better, but no one seems to know for sure.

Is the grind to 10 really worth it for a seraph or can I just stop at 8? I heard the bonuses aren't too significant.

>>5439736
It makes her "loop" attack stronger (hits harder and wider range), and increase the number of times she can open her wings (perma flight for like 20 seconds) in one battle. In my opinion, I'd say they're not worth it. I rarely use the loop attack, and the perma flight is pretty useless to be honest, I still haven't figured out how to use it effectively due to the long cast time and delay.

>>5439759
Go 8, and watch my 10 mow you every game.

>>5439759

It's not a super huge difference. Like +20 HP and +60 capacity. But you'll need that capacity if you want to use your seraph right after you make it.

>>5439826
>>5439849
Thanks guys. I guess it's back to grinding for me then.

Anybody tried the dash action "Sway" for Winberrl?

>>5439919
Hardly useful (shortens your dash and gives a few invincibility frames)

>>5439919
Sway cuts your dash distance in half but makes it so there's no slowdown at the end of the dash like a normal one would have. I don't think it's worth it personally, but some people have said it makes it easier to dodge.

>>5439938
I see. Thanks for the tip.

I currently use a Lily Rain as my main, with ancient bazooka, shoulder rifle and little grenade.When firing all my guns, I rarely hit anything with my grenades (slow speed, short range when fired straight).
Should swith the little grenade for something else?

>>5439996
You should switch Lily for Psycho body.

I main a crimrose with a small bazooka and a beam rifle. With sniper scope and the antiradar upgrade, you can sneak right up to the enemy's artillery with a rapidfire powerup and SUDDENLY RAEP

Alternatively just take out individual targets. We hunt in packs.

>>5439849
confirmed, +20 hp and +70 capacity for level 8 vs 10.
Serafukurimuroze α HP: 315 Cost: 600/710
Serafukurimuroze β HP: 325 Cost: 600/740
Serafukurimuroze γ HP: 335 Cost: 600/770
stats are the same. good trade considering you get no extra cost, but not even close to game breaking since you can farm up to level 4 in 15-20 minutes.

>>5439941
I've found that it is better when I am on the offense than running away, but lnd units have much better dashes. Pretty meh for other types.

>>5439826
you must be one of those people that relies completely on high cost items if 70 capacity is so critical to you.
While I would suggest getting to 10 (or maybe at least 9), it doesn't make or break it as much as you seem to imply.
Inferior Crimrose B here (-1 tec +1str) and killing people is no problem.

>>5440019
yes this is awesome as long as everyone has the upgrade. if more than 1 person (bait) is missing it, it can really screw up the surprise factor.

>>5440032
Really, most offensive powerups will do if you're soloing. While you don't get massive points for it, blowing an entire line of stupid arty off a cliff right into the melee below with a single hurricane blow or making them run into the same with a fire pillar is massively fun. It does mean you get toasted with more frequency than the norm, but hunt down some enemy crimroses or aquilas and your score'll go right back up.

>>5439826
Does that lvl6 one upgrade both of them, with the lvl9 being like another, or are they for seperate weapons each. The flying ability is a bit overrated, but it has its uses. Plus flying extra fast is always fun.

So the upgrade increases flying uses from 1 to 2 then?
Couldn't care less about the loop attack, I use it more for escaping than attacking.

>>5439826
>(perma flight for like 20 seconds)

Doesn't the propeller bit already do that?

>>5423611

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What is this "loop attack" for the seraphs and how do you use it? I've never seen anything like that when using mine.

No new thread?
>> Anonymous 06/21/10(Mon)19:42 No.5239863
>>5239779
Theres one on /jp/
>> Anonymous 06/21/10(Mon)19:44 No.5239878
>>5239863
yeeeeeah, but thats on /jp/
>> Anonymous 06/21/10(Mon)19:50 No.5239923
>>5239863
/jp/ is filthy wiz

I just joined Cosmic Break. Which channel should I join to hang out with /jp/ guys?

>>5440543
WIZ

>>5440543
all the cool people are in channel 2 last i checked.
faction divisions are:
WIZ: /a/ and /jp/
BLD: /v/
DOS: /m/ and /tg/

BRD: /v/ and GMs

>>5439826
You be wrong.

The first level lets her use the perma flight ability TWICE. I don't know what the second upgrade does yet because mine isn't level 9 yet.

You could. You know. Use it before you get into combat. It does last a long time. A lot longer then a normal flight.

I wonder if her air loop attack is based on str or tek like her alternate arm weapon?

/m/ here

your 东方 doesn't help in anything.

>>5440833
>cost
>6795
That's the most I've ever seen, alright.

Right now, I like this game...
but that is soon to be changed because cash

>>5440833
Holy Christ, that cost...

You realize that you can dodge bullets by moving, right?

>>5440934
I heard jCB is almost dead. The costs are too high. So maybe they won't make the same mistake. I can hope.

>>5440968
this deserves another memegenerator meme:

production costs too high?
raise game sales price

lose 90% players which are actually /a/ and /jp/ lurkers

>>5426805
That is an aquila using a paralizer at the top isn't it... using an item he can't equip.

>>5440833
You do nothing but help your team lose. Dear god man. Sure killing newbies who rush at you while you're going full bore on the guns gets you top spot but if you act like that you won't find much love from your team.

Besides I see nobody in there with a Touhou name or from Hotglue. If you have complaints about players post about it on /a/.

>/a/
I don't normally look at /a/ because /a/ sucks dick.
But lately I've been following their CB threads... the problem is that the threads die quickly so every day I have to shit through pages of shit threads to find the CB thread.

Could people post links to the /a/ threads here in this thread to save that trouble?

>>5441137

my team sucks even more when i try to save my costs

>>5440833
Just what the fuck is contrib anyway?

who should I speaking to for clan joining?

>>5441287
Post your IGN, and be on channel 2.

>>5440833
Your score may be astronomical, but you can't beat my 弾幕.

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>>5441294
logging in now

>>5431436
I didn't mind losing, but did you have to take both my arms for the last 3 minutes? ;_;
I just ran...shooting my skirt with no arms
ks bot where?

Is it only me or is there a huge delay when going to options or choosing a game or friggin selecting anything?

>>5441450
try alt-tabbing away from the window and back

Can anyone with the Assault Rifle tell me if it's any good for LND units?

>>5441574

i tried 2x assault rifle on lazflame once, high walk, low tec. still got top 5

just keep moving like no tomorrow, and depend on auto aim

>>5441258
Well, if your contribution outweighs your costs. Still man, 6700 sucks balls. Even if I died 6 times I wouldn't equal that.

>>5441450

you could just be lagging, that would cause that

oh wow this unknown robot event is bullshit

>>5441258
How the fuck do you even have time to die 6 times and respawn? I mean, I barely die once or twice max in a game, and the game ends before I would ever need to respawn the third time.

>>5441574
Assault/Raid are okay on Lnd bots
I run Raid+Flame on my Misty and do fine
My walk stat is 36 though.

The bosses are worth 100 to 500UC.

>>5441630


3763 damage
3763 melee

maybe this explains

>>5441643
That aside, if you are dying so fast, wouldn't your respawn units have like no health since they don't have time to regenerate?

>>5441661

>>5441643
How the fuck do you do 3k+ with melee? I hit for 18 damage each to small types so it would take me ~200 hits to get that damage.

>>5441704
How do you only get 16? I can usually get 60+ easy.

What weapon are you using?

I guess >>5441690 is trying to say that when he dies on two at least one will be at full hp

>>5441704
Stop hitting other landbots with a knife

>>5441574
I've tried the assault rifles on my Winberll with 25WLK, which would sort of be like using it on LND, and they were really underwhelming. Not sure why it feels like there is such a difference them and raid rifles, which I use on my Lily Rain and do pretty well with.

>>5441708
Damascus knife

>>5441721
I get 18 on a crimrose.

>>5441752
Use combination dagger or slash blade. Those hits for 50s easy.

>>5441752

Crimrose is Air, Tech(ranged) mech.

>>5441792
I meant that I was hitting a crimrose with my misty.

>>5441752
Land/Air bots can get -30% dmg from Melee attacks
Art takes 1.4x Melee dmg
and since everyone likes to sit in the powerspot with a bazooka..

>>5440833

still, how the fuck "cont." works?

>>5441792
If you heavily stack Str, a crimrose can be pretty scary as melee since she got the ability to get virtually anywhere on the map and chase most targets. If I got enough chips, I'd tune myself a melee set for my Seraph

>>5441826

you forgot defense.

>>5441821
Not hard to be honest, dunno. Play game more?
If he didn't die so much i'd be almost impressed

>>5441855
>implying she can't wreck the crap out of a pray, then fly away before anyone even have her targeted

>>5441855
>Implying theres a defense stat
Air takes 2.6x damage from Art, and Melee does 1.4x to Art so.. i'm not so sure you want to go with Melee as your main source of damage on a Crimrose

Its a nice backup though

Fucking contrib. how does it work?

>>5441873
Attacking power spots and NPCs brings it up.

>>5441870
That's not how it works. Air takes 2.6x damage from explosives, whether an Air, Lnd, Art, or Sup fired it, Art takes 1.4x damage from all melee attacks, regardless of the attacker, and so on

>>5441885


But I done none of this, just rushed into their base and cut the crap out of the arts.

Also today I soloed a enemy core with my Air, got low contrib anyway

>>5441869


You will get stunned and unable to escape

>Negative contrib.

What gives, WIZ?

BRD is fucking us seven ways till Sunday all day all night long.

It's not funny.

They're getting point leads of a couple thousand. We can barely keep pace or we just drop the ball.

>>5441870
>>5441890
very true, fuck that bazooka spam. As air I kill lnd and other air units.
If my air unit would take 70-100 damage from a hit, my sup or lnd units take 20 or less with -50% explosive chip.

stopped playing much because >50% of players are just art camping. You can dodge bazookas easy, but 1 stun = dead. I replaced all my +fly gear with +tgh but you still get stunned like a bitch compared to a support or lnd unit.

>>5441905
no kidding, air units are the best as a crimrose. I can hit them with a stun gun, double shot them stun+bazooka as they free fall to ground level, and kill them before they even know what hit them. 50-70+ hits with crazy flight speed and dodging is dangerous.
too bad most maps are art maps.

>>5441905
Fuck that, what the hell is sometimes hitting my Crimrose and knocking her like 20 meters away and turning her around backwards? It's some kind of bullet since it's been done at range from people hiding in tunnels.

>>5441916
It's an item, like the flame pillar.

>>5441916
you mean the hurricane blast power up? that is a blessing. he is talking about the yellow star bullets of death that send you to the ground to be raped by art units.

>>5441910
Seems to be time of day. Few people are holding their own on WIZ side, unlike earlier where we had like a 25 win streak against them.

>>5441926

Around midnight to 2 am PDT this BRD streak happens

WIZ doesn't hold well together at night.

>>5441923
>>5441922
Maybe it is the wind pillar, but they have to have like 20 of them at once. Also it doesn't know me quite that far, but it flips my character around. it's annoying as hell.

Getting kicked by lazflamme also does the Same effect

>>5441911
I don't know, but non-Crimrose air units are a real bitch to take down with artillery.

I fire rockets at aquilas and I'm LUCKY is I even with for 20 damage.

does that "see all enemy units" upgrade work on units with the hidden from minimap upgrade?

>>5442004
I wonder if I am missing some upgrade then? or do all crimroses get hit that hard? I know as a crimrose I can kill almost all other air units np. Maybe I'll try that L air unit with the girl inside and see if it is better.

70-100 damage for 1 hit is just way too much when a single stun bullet will knock you down, even with 25+ tgh on a crimrose. My support unit is actually more effective in killing power than my crimrose if I am going against a team with a good stun gun user.
I am a stun gun user myself so I get targeted very quickly.

>>5442055

Stun guns have low speed and only a 20% chance of stun or so. They shouldn't be that much of a problem. Your problem with air is probably that you aren't attacking at the right time.

>>5426001
So what's the point in using normal Misty's Mist release attack then if it doesn't have disable effect?

>>5442099
It makes you immune to everything but melee for like 5 seconds.

>>5442086
no I do fine score wise, I'm almost always in the top 5 with less than 1k cost. I use a paralyzer with double paralyze chance (it has 280 base speed, and I also have a couple rate upgrades) and most units fall on the first shot, 2 is unlucky.
If I am actually in the air, I almost never get hit. I almost always run out of ammo before I die on my paralyzer, and most people I stun get killed very quickly by either me or art units.

I think you are forgetting that stun guns are beam weapons so air has a bonus, because with a paralyzer and double paralyze you mess up other units. as in they cannot fly away from you, period.

It was fine before the new bots were released when a hit meant taking 40 or so damage per sot, but now I get hit for 80+ by just taking one shot after a stun.

what's the difference between the 3 winberrls?

>>5442307
I've been wondering too. I ask every now and then but never get any reply

Not much difference. Just that Vesca's arm/drawgun has more gravitational pull and that she can't equip other weapons like her counterparts. Also their core weapons are a little different.

What's tomorrow's event?
Trees?