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An hour early, but the balance seems good now.
So, Project Insomnia. We had a massive fucking discussion about this last night, finding /jp/ prune limit in the process.

Project insomnia started out as "this would make a cool VN" thread and quickly evolved into "Hey we could probably make this" and at the end was looking like it was going to become a full blown Katawa Shoujo.

The idea is simple. You're pretty much a paranoid schizophrenic Darks that meets a unhinged girl suffering from Fatal familial insomnia. She can't sleep, and becomes slightly more nuts every day. She'd become more BAWWW worthy as it got so bad she'd start to forget about gifts you gave her, only remembering they're supposed to be important, but with no idea why.

Rapidshare of original heug thread
http://rapidshare.com/files/94165693/40945.zip.html
And a bulletpoint
http://abstractnonsense.info/projects/

Now, any of the anon that partcipated in this here. What'd I miss?

Also, Discuss, if you like.

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And ONCE AGAIN the difficult question must be asked: WHO IS DRAWING THIS SHIT?

Here is an example of a game in which the programmer is also the artist. Unless you are going for the "so absurdly bad it's good" look, I'd recommend either learning to draw or finding someone who can and who isn't going to charge you for his or her time as people with real drawing talent tend to be employed for their skills. Japan is different; artists are everywhere.

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>the guy(girl?) who draws for Scarred
That'll be my drawfag friend i was talking about...

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I have training but little experience with software project management. One thing I can recognize that this project needs is deadlines for deliverables - especially for an anonymous effort.

How about we make a thread (here or on /v/?) on 3/15 to post first chapter writing samples and maybe art if anyone's brave enough to take a stab at it?

If we meet on the same date in an easily found thread whenever there are deliverables to check out or new phases starting, then anyone who's interested in the project will easily be able to keep up to speed on it.

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>>55009
Fuck.

>> No.52499

hmm, sounds interesting.

f5

>> No.52507

Also, Some highlights of original thread for those that don't wanna read 250 posts.

"Oniichan, what...is this?"

Lying there in her palm was that little ring from that time.

“Aww, it’s from that… time, it’s not important.”

Her eyes wondered up to meet my, then back down at the ring in her hand. Slowly, she closed her fingers around it and turned around.

She just stood there, with her back towards me.

“Oniichan is lying! It was something very important to Hitomi!”



“Hitomi… I…”

Shit, I always say the stupidest thing.

Not knowing what to do, I took a step towards her and wrapped my arms around her shoulder, cuddling her in that way she liked.

Her hands, she had them open again, the ring at the centre.

Then, drip, drip, something wet landed on top of them.

She turned her face around, her crimson eyes glistered with tears.

“I… I can’t remember anything oniichan, but it must be very very important to Hitomi…”

“I don’t know why, I don’t remember anything oniichan, but when I look at it, I feel so happy…”

>> No.52516

make it so that nearing the final stages of the illness she wants you to treat her like a girlfriend, because she realizes she will die with out experiencing love.

Then you know, romance interlaced with tear jerking scenes like you accidentially take her to a romance movie where there's a dream scene. On set of dementia where she finds something you gave to her as a child but not remember it's significance and so crying while holding it. etc

ending has her dying and saying before she does that she will dream about you always

>> No.52520

If you're actually gonna do this, you'd better have a kickass writer do some pretty fucking awesome stream of conscious stuff, yet manage to not sound too Tsukihime. This, "a paranoid schizophrenic Darks that meets a unhinged girl suffering from Fatal familial insomnia. She can't sleep, and becomes slightly more nuts every day." sounds like a pretty hard thing to pull off, and isn't something that can be done well by a mediocre writer.

>> No.52523

Sounds very BAAAWWWWW worthy.

>> No.52524

>>52520

Someone with semi-professional writing expierence volunteered and talked with the guy trying to organize a project. No idea what came out of that.
Part of what this thread is for

Bad end.
In a fit of dementia she holds you down to the bed rapes you, and cuts you up with a scalpel or something, then collapses on top of you, dead.

>> No.52527

>>52516

Dont listen to this Anon,be more original.

>> No.52528

Where's my secret loli route?
Or at least a nurse.

>> No.52529

The good end should be you poisoning her in the final stages of the disease so that she can die without suffering. Unable to live without his love, protagonist-kun also takes the poison himself.

The game ends with them cuddling under a blanket. They both finally fall asleep in each others arms, never to wake up.

As I said, this should be the good end.

>> No.52536

>>52529
That sounds like a normal end.

>> No.52540

>>52520
Also along the line of "if your actually gonna do this", something with a bit more permanence that a 4chan thread, like a forum or something, would probably be in order.

>> No.52541

So I've had these shadow people ideas for awhile, I wonder if it's possible to somehow incorporate this?

For this not in the know, Shadow people are one of the more interesting deleriums of the human mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people

Many people have reported the same two shapes, The man in the hat, and the hooded dude.

I've had this idea for a long time about a man who can't stop seeing them, and at first, he only sees them near clocks, and they're pointing at the clock, and so on.

The basis was that they basically where both good and bad at the same time. They'd tell him to kill people, but at the same time save his life.

Maybe this could be the reasoning behind our emokid's emo? Also a reason to get him locked up with the girl.

>> No.52547

>>52540

Guy who decided it might be worth doing set up a site with his email. But Yeah

>> No.52553

>>52524
Doesn't exactly make him a good writer for this sort of thing, though.

I mean, if he's only, say, a journalist up till this point, can he do fiction from the point of view of a madman confronting a girl going insane?

A tall order indeed.

>> No.52562

>>52553

dunno lol, he was some tripfag that exchanged emails. I'm kinda hoping he pops up so I can find out what happened.

I can't really find anything else I find too repost worthy, so I'll just point out that in the end, consensus was that if it was gonna get done, it should go the non weeaboo setting route.

>> No.52630

>looking like it was going to become a full blown Katawa Shoujo.

Please don't let it become like that den of faggotry. It sounds like a great idea, and if you think you can write it, just go with it. Don't go trying to make it a big group project, because it will inevitably turn into fail as different people try to take over and take credit for everything until the whole thing degenerates into an orgy of namefaggery and e-peen stroking.

My suggestion is stay the fuck away from group organization, let a writer do his thing, and then find an artist/programmer if it ever gets that far.

>> No.52660

Katawa Shoujo has been in development for what, a year? Two?

good luck with this

>> No.52717

Oh god? Something came out of this? I love it when you people get your shit together even if it does most of the time lead to utter failure.

>> No.52721

I want this to happen. Just fucking erase the part about sex saving her and the father-daughter incest.

>> No.52730

>>52717

Wouldn't say anything came out of it yet.

>>52630

I don't know if it could be a one writer thing. All those 5 big ideas that made up the general story that was decided on came from completely different people.

>>52630

That's the exact reason I called it like I did. But none the less, I'm just as fascinated. I'm retarded, if you will.

>> No.52737

>>52630
Do this. To get anywhere you'll need to keep it the team small and focused. Some discussions once in a while's good for ideas, just don't let anons and others pull your team around and making you try to satisfy everyone.

>> No.52763

This shit sounds awesome.

Thumbs up!

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>>55726
>>55709
DO NOT WANT.

>> No.52807

>>52730
It's an idea. An idea with some momentumn. A simple clarion call with just that little extra ounce of effort is "something". Not much but it's something. Nothing makes me more ecstatic than seeing some creative juice flowing on this endless ocean of reposts.

>> No.52813

>>52737

Not my team, I just threw out ideas.
I'm trying to pull the anon that tried to organize this out of the woodworks, him or the tripfag that was interested in writing it.

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>> No.52922

Also, just saw

>>52807

That near poetic response made laugh. A simple "Original Content, on MY /jp/?" would have said the same thing. I'm imaging you as a french poet, sipping wine, and browsing an imageboard right now.

>> No.52941

>I don't know if it could be a one writer thing. All those 5 big ideas that made up the general story that was decided on came from completely different people.

Doesn't matter. At some point, someone is going to have to sit down and write the damn thing, and by someone I mean someONE, not some group. Someone's creative vision has to hold sway, whether or not he actually writes out all the text himself. Try to keep it under group control and it'll fall to pieces until someone seizes it out from under you.

>> No.52947

Pardon my ignorance but has anyone here actually looked up what shizophrenia really is or actually seen a person with it?

They aren't exactly of sound enough mind and even if they do, more likely to feel depressed all day knowing their condition will worsen with no sign of cure. A truely paranoid schizophrenic won't interact nor trust anybody even if you have logic on your side.

>> No.52953

>>52947

That was part of the point. It gets talked about in the latter part of the heug thread.

>> No.52959

>>52947
This man speaks the truth.
So, illnesses that'll put you in a hospital bed but leave you fully conscious, what are they?

>> No.52969

>You're pretty much a paranoid schizophrenic Darks

You can't be serious

>> No.52991

>>52959

Oh fuck, you mean that lock in syndrome? Which one you want? The one in which the nerves are cut (like a paraplegic) or the one in which the muscles are failing?

>> No.52996

physical disabilities, now mental disabilities. you guys just need to make a down's syndrome dating simulator already.

>> No.52997

>>52969

Well, It was pretty much conceptualized after a bunch of anon STAYED UP ALL NIGHT.

>> No.53001

Project coder here, the original thread is here:

http://abstractnonsense.info/insomnia/pi.mht

>> No.53006

>>52492
>Darks

Aka Ecstasy? Stays up all night?

>> No.52999

>>52996
And name it 'Dating for Retards'.

>> No.53009

>>52996

I am not sure which is more depraved actually...
The people that creates them or the people who wants to play them.

>> No.53016

>>52996
Main character got into a car accident and has lost important parts of his brain leaving him severely mentally disabled. In the care center he's at he meets another patient, a young girl with down's syndrome. This is their story.

>> No.53024

>>53009
Yeah, disabled people sicken me too.

>> No.53041

>>53001

There you are. So what was the verdict? Did you get in touch with the tripfag?

>> No.53053

>>52999
No, chris-chan, the father of sonichu would become the greatest fan.

>> No.53057

>>53041
well... i'm at work, but we will discuss details about the plot when i get home, if that's what you mean.

>> No.53066

>>53057

So you DID get in contact with him then? Excellent.

>>53006

That one.

>> No.53079

>>52959
If you're pretty much having everything constantly in the hospital all of the suffering may not have to be an illness at all. For brickshitting you could have it all be nothing more than a millitary experiment on psychological warfare with the main character and main girl as two of the test subjects. The ending could just be him finally breaking out of the hospital full of despair only to "break out" into a cold metal corridor full of white coats and millitary personal.

On another note I remember there being an anime just a few seasons ago. I can't quite remember the fucking name of it about some guy who was hospitalized for a chest infection or some shit and the nurse introduces him to a girl in his ward who has a weak heart. There was an old guy as well who gave the guy his porn mags, a nurse who drove around in a sports car and a doctor who was kind of an ass but wasn't. It's pretty much the premise of what's been suggested but without the insanity. Might be worth looking the series up just for some pointers but I thought it was somewhat tastefully done.

>> No.53087

>>53053
What?

>> No.53107

>>53087
don't ask.

>> No.53127

Oi.

This has potential. I like it.

Writer standing by.

>> No.53161

>>53127

Guy trying to organize it set up a kind of bulletpoint on the site. You can hit up the email there if you like. Link in OP incase you happen to be blind.

>> No.53173

>>53079
Our writer AoM,i email him during the day with some of my ideas, not sure how he feels but this is my idea for the story:

Guy is girl's brother, they stay mostly at home, since you know, with no cure there's not much point staying at the hospital. The guy hates the house though because it reminds him that they are family. Later on the story, two of them run away from the house so they can pursuer their love.

>> No.53187

huh, looks like this is going somewhere. I don't like the idea myself but there are a couple of free VN engines out there. I've taken computer science 3 so if you guys can get the text and art ready I can pull it together into a game.

http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page

>> No.53218

>>53187
We are using onscripter, thanks for the offer though

>> No.53339

"Anon, get off the computer and go shopping! This is the last time I'm telling you!"

Ugh. The old bag is at it again.

"Fine!" I yell at her. I have more important things to do than shop. Shopping is for women and manbitches. But she'll take my internet away again if I piss her off. I put on some jeans and a t-shirt that doesn't look too shitty. I haven't showered in a few days, I hope no one will notice. Walking into the kitchen, I see my mother helping my little sister with some project.

"Don't forget to pick up macaroni! I need it for my pwoject!" the little demon whines.

Yeah, I'd hate to see you fail, you little shit. I hope that ugly teacher molests you.

I swipe the store note off the table and jam it into my pocket. Damn, I must've left some chocolate in there, it's all sticky and something's all over my fingers now. Feeling brave, I lick them. Yep, chocolate.

Putting on my sneakers, I step into the midday sun. The bright glare makes me squint and the heat is just damning. Seriously, it's like walking into an oven. I mount my bike and begin to ride to the store. Now that I'm at speed, the wind provides a nice breeze. Good thing, since if I sweat too much they'll be able to smell me in the next town over.

Passing a bakery, I recognize some kids in a car. Oh, fuck.

>> No.53341

I'm so deep into my mental stroking that I didn't even notice I had pedaled into the street.
My heart skips a beat as I see a truck bearing down on me.
I hesitate. Maybe he'll swerve or brake at the last second, like in the movies.
Nope.
It feels like getting hit by that linebacker that used to beat me up.
My bike flies off to god knows where while I get a face full of truck hood.
My head feels like it exploded into a million fragments.
Oh god, I can see blood on the hood now. It glimmers in the sun like scattered jewels.
I feel sick. I can't move. I'm sleepy.
I hear a car door slam.
"Hey kid, are you alright? Oh shit, who the hell are you? No, seriously, you're all green and shit!"
I'm anonymous, god damn it. I don't even have the energy to espouse the awesomeness of being an anon before I pass out.

Something smells funky. I open my eyes and I'm in some weird room that smells like Lysol. Cool, maybe some hot chick found me and took me home and in exchange for treating me, I can be her fucktoy. Hell yes. Shit, my head hurts. I turn my head and see a middle-aged woman in a nurse's outfit. Ugh, she's not hot. This won't do at all. I just have the worst luck.

>> No.53345

"Hey faggot," my sister says. My mother just sighs.

"Your sister failed her school project because you couldn't get her macaroni in time. I hope you're happy with yourself," my mother says.

GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING SHIT BAG RAGE ASDLFJLSFJLSJFSL SHIT MY HEAD HURTS OW

Yeah, it's nice to see you too after my near-death experience. I should've pedaled faster, then maybe I wouldn't have to deal with this shit any longer.

"Anyway, the doctor said you'll be fine if you just take it easy here. We'll visit you tomorrow. Get some rest."

My mother leans over and kisses me on the cheek. Wow, that's the first time she's shown me affection in years. They turn around and leave. I'm going to need a lot of morphine if they're going to be visiting daily. I wonder if I can get a laptop out of all this when I'm done. Then I'd never be without my visual novels. Bliss.

The nurse comes and brings me some food. Oh joy, hospital grub. I wonder if the jello is made with real blood. She gives me some pills to take. These better be strong. I swallow them and fall asleep.

I feel something warm on my lips. Gah, what the hell. This place have rats or something? I open my eyes and can barely make out someone's face in the darkness. Whoever it is, they're leaning over me, close enough to kiss me. Ick, I bet it's that creepy doctor.

>> No.53346

"You must be new here," it says. Female, sounds young. I can feel her breath on my cheek. The door to my room bursts open, flooding the place with light. Before I'm blinded, I can make out some details of the face. Thin and cute, with dark hair. I squint in pain as someone grabs the girl and ushers her into the hallway.

"Hitomi, how did you get out of your room again? Stop causing trouble for the other patients!" says the nurse sternly, before I hear a door slam. The nurse sillohette appears in my doorway.

"I'm so sorry. She gets out of her room sometimes. I'll make sure she doesn't trouble you again. Good night," she says, before closing the door.

Awesome. I have a head injury and I have to content with creeps. It's like summer camp all over again.

Although, I wonder how long that girl has been here and what her deal is. Eh, it doesn't matter anyway, I'll be out of this place in a few days. I fall back to sleep, wanting to fap but not wanting to be caught with my hand in my pants in a hospital. Now that'd be weird.

Sunlight streams in through my window as I open my eyes. I hear the door open. Yay, it's my mother. She's wearing her suit, so she must be off to work.

"I'd thought I'd stop by before going to the office. How are they treating you?"

>MENTION THE WEIRD GIRL

>> No.53362

>>53218
>onscripter

It's almost as if you enjoy the pain

>> No.53369

>>53339
>>53341
>>53345
>>53346

BEST FUCKING POSTS IN THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD.

>> No.53377

>>53339
>>53341
>>53345
>>53346
MOAR FAGGOT

>> No.53382

Cool. We now have writers.

We're on a roll, Anon.

(I lolled at genuflect.)

>> No.53393

>>53345
>"Hey faggot," my sister says.
This is the best visual novel ever.

>> No.53419

>>53362
seconded, don't use that outdated piece of shit

>> No.53422

>>53393

Well, this is going to depend on whether or not we want it to appeal to the general populace or Anon.

If we want it to appeal to Anon, and it's just something for ourselves, then it should be lulzy, and get moar BAWWW-tastic towards the end.

>> No.53431

>>53422
Just a little sister that FOR ONCE is not a moeblob interest but an annoying little shit would be nice.

>> No.53435

>>52997
true, original idea was made by a few love and peace haters.
hey op, your idea still sounds awesome, that mean's it might have real potential.

>> No.53438

>>53431
That said, there needs to be a "rape the sister" path.

Neither of you should enjoy it, except for a sadistic sense of justice on your part.

>> No.53459

>>53393
>>53438
IDEAS HAVE POTENTIAL

>> No.53495

>>53422

My posts are a joke and should appeal to no one.

X|MENTION THE WEIRD GIRL

"Some weird girl wandered into my room last night and woke up ass up. What a pain. Can't they keep the crazies in straightjackets?"

My mother sighs. "You're in a hospital, you know? These things happen. You can't choose your fellow patients. I remember when I was giving birth to you and the doctor was between my legs and OH MY GOD I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MY MOTHER'S VAGINA KJFLDSJFLDSKJ NUMA NUMA YAY NUMA NUMA YAY NUMA NUMA NUMA YAY oh good she's stopped talking. Now she's staring at me with a concerned look on your face.

"Are you alright? Your eyes are glazed over. Did that truck hit you harder than we thought...?"

It almost seems as if she really cares.

"Uh, the drugs make me loopy," I croak.

>> No.53499

>>53422

My posts are a joke and should appeal to no one.
X|MENTION THE WEIRD GIRL

"Some weird girl wandered into my room last night and woke my ass up. What a pain. Can't they keep the crazies in straightjackets?"

My mother sighs. "You're in a hospital, you know? These things happen. You can't choose your fellow patients. I remember when I was giving birth to you and the doctor was between my legs and OH MY GOD I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MY MOTHER'S VAGINA KJFLDSJFLDSKJ NUMA NUMA YAY NUMA NUMA YAY NUMA NUMA NUMA YAY oh good she's stopped talking. Now she's staring at me with a concerned look on her face.

"Are you alright? Your eyes are glazed over. Did that truck hit you harder than we thought...?"

It almost seems as if she really cares.

"Uh, the drugs make me loopy," I croak.

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Cool project, guys. I'll help with the installer.

>> No.53517

character -kun is almost worth shiki narration wise.

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>>56757

>> No.53529

>>53499
They appeal to me.

>> No.53532

I'm tempted to say RAPE THE NURSES, but for the hell of it,

>ASK ABOUT THE GIRL

>> No.53535

>>53499
Oh god, am I detecting the potential of a Mother-complex route?

>> No.53619

X|ASK ABOUT THE GIRL

"What was the deal with that girl?" you ask, as the nurse sets the tray of food in front of you. Bleh, it looks like sewage. Oh well, it's still better than your mom's cooking. She's the only person you know who can't even bake a pie properly. For fuck's sake, you don't even have to make the crust anymore, you just dump the shit in a tin and bake it. The last time she tried, it tasted like a Japanese pizza. You still get nightmares about it.

"Oh, Hitomi? She's... been here a while. You see, she has a rare disease wherein she can't fall asleep. Her family has tried everything, but nothing will work. She had a mental breakdown and her family took her here. We've been trying experimental drugs to help her fall asleep, but so far... And if she doesn't fall asleep soon.... Oh, but I'm rambling! Enjoy your breakfast, pumpkin!"

Ohoho, spicy. Your new neighbor is some headcase. You might be able to have some fun with this before you go home.

The nurse gives me a new round of pills. My head is still pounding, so I swallow them happily. She leaves, and I force down the remains of my breakfast. Gah, the eggs were slimy. I don't feel to good, so I pass out.

A creaking sound from outside my door wakes me up. Through the window in my door, I can see that Hitomi has gotten out of her room again. Damn, she's a skinny little thing. Who can blame her, the food here blows.

My head feels a bit better. I think I can walk around for a bit.

>GO TALK TO THE GIRL

>> No.53625

>>53619
I WISH YOU WOULD MAKE THE FUCKING SCRIPT SO I CAN CHOOSE THE OTHER OPTIONS

>GO TALK TO THE GIRL

>> No.53728

coder here, status update:
got enough volunteers for writers, need artists, musicians and editors (though editors can wait).

Current important questions are not so much manpower but more to do with the story itself.

Question 1: setting - Japan or not.

Japan - when you finally give in and make love to your little sister, she will be wimpering cries of 'ahhh... oniichan...' etc. Catch is since none of our writers are eleven, it will be much harder to write.

Outside japan - easier to write about, no oniichan.


Question 2:
Names, particularly if the setting is japan.

>> No.53852

>>53728
While i'm at it

Question 3:

How loli of a sister? I had in mind around say 14 years old

>> No.53863

>>53728
>>53852

When did the chick become his sister? Incest is great and all, but I kinda liked it better when it was just two nutcases.

>> No.53873

>>53863
seconded, sister complex is the most run down thing ever.

>> No.53885

>>53619
This is the best goddamn VN.

>> No.53881

>>53619
This is the best goddamn eroge.

>> No.53906

>>53852
wait sister?

I was under the impression that it was two unrelated loonies.

>> No.53901

>but I kinda liked it better when it was just two nutcases

There's little stopping two nutcases from loving each other tenderly. I mean, if you're crazy and want something, not much can stop you.

Incest on the other hand has to overcome many obstacles. And as we all know, all love stories are about the lovers overcoming whatever is stopping them from getting together. (be it race, family rivary, homosexual, incest, etc)

>> No.53940

>>53901
How about this for an obstacle, then:

The protagonist was born gay. He is unable to be sexually aroused by a female body, no matter how much he may love her as a person.

Good end, the girl curses you of your gayness.

>> No.53951

>>53901

Crazy people also get violent. Especially paranoid schizophrenics. Incest has been done to the point where the elevens VNs have to add some spice to make it interesting.

>> No.53959

the true nutcases ITT are the people who think they can make a game.

BUT HELL, I WILL GIVE TWO PALMS UP IF THIS GETS FINISHED.

>> No.54024

Or it could be gaijins in Japan. Or Japanese in Foreignland.

The '"Hey faggot," my sister says' anon's style is win, I want to read more of it. But he should ditch you losers and start his own shit.

>> No.54039

>>53728
>>53852
1) Outside of Japan, it'll make things much easier on the writers, although if you want a character to say things like "onii-chan" then make them a weaboo or half-japanese or something. If you play things right, you ca have the best of both.

2) One of the following for the main character...
a) Anonymous
b) A letter or something (lol L) so it seems somewhat anonymous
c) If possible, name can be chosen by the reader before the VN itself starts. Like in a game or something
Just don't give the main character a full name.

3) 13-14

>> No.54040

>>54024

Original was cool when it was batshit crazy darks and batshit crazy chick, but I'm rapidly losing interest if it's just gonna be a boring incest bawwfest.

Anon's new novel has my interest, however.

>> No.54043

>>53951
You know how they could add spice to it? MAKING IT FUCKING BLOODRELATED INCEST! FUCK YOU AND YOUR ADOPTION FETISH JAPAN, IT GETS RETARDED!

>> No.54058

>>52947

Hey, I originally suggested the idea and I do know a lot about the subject.

For example, it's not possible to have visual and aural "illusions" at the same time, you can either hear something or see something, never both at the same time. The paranoia makes the person very anti-social but not a complete pariah, could be that in the VN the nutty girl can break him of his silence somehow for a plot...I dunno :P

>> No.54066

>>53959
>the true nutcases ITT are the people who think they can make a game.
Not a game. A story with pictures and music. Sounds easier when you put it like that, no?

>> No.54085

>Original was cool when it was batshit crazy darks and batshit crazy chick

That isn't the original, the original WAS incest. But if you like the one with crazy peoples, just write it and I'll have a look anyway.

>> No.54239

I vote Nay on the incest. While it is an option, I don't think it's the best one here. (Not to mention how overplayed it is.) We don't need another obsticle for love to overcome. There's already the struggle of the girl about to DIE and her being BATSHIT INSANE. (As long as it doesn't get too far out of hand, that could work wonders in our favor.)

Also, what exactly would an editor DO on a VN?

>> No.54248

>>54239
he edits the writing like a normal novel editor. Then he adds visual noval specific formatting directives like new page, music, graphics, click-wait states, etc

>> No.54353

>>54248

Ah, I could do that then. Don't get me wrong, this is out of sheer boredom. If anybody with experience steps up to the plate, then by all means, take the wheel.

>> No.54380

>>54239
i second this comment

>> No.54381

>>54369
I will be paying my drawfag friend, problem is he's style is bit too moeblob for this story. So i'm still on the lookout for artist

>> No.54417

>>54369
It might not be such a problem. I'm drawing a bit better than the guy(girl?) who draws for Scarred and I know four people jsut from my closer colleagues who draw better than me. It's not that uncommon.
I'd preffer to write though and that's what I wrote in the email to abstractnonsense. I may draw quite good but I take too much time. And right now I'm replacing traditional medias with a tablet pc and I'll need some time to get used to it.

>> No.54441

>>54417

What? You've played the Beta, right? It's nothing like what's on the website.

>> No.54453

>>54441
He didn't draw those, I stole those CGs from Narcissu

>> No.54465

>>54441
I did not - decided to wait until I finally get my laptop.

>> No.54585

Don't we need music? I make music. Truthfully, music for something like this wouldn't be that hard.

>> No.54671

>>54585
Contact abstractnonsense. I'd guess they still need someone to make music.

>> No.54716

>>54585

Please do.

----------

Alright everybody, listen up!

I've just gotten in contact with the Anon heading up this project and it looks like everything's a go. First thing's first though, we need everybody in a form of fast paced contact.

Since I personally haet AIM chats, I've set up an irc channel on the server of some friends.

irc.partyvan.org #insomnia

OR

>> No.54718

>How about we make a thread (here or on /v/?) on 3/15 to post first chapter writing samples and maybe art if anyone's brave enough to take a stab at it?

people are already doing it. send an email to abstract nonsense

>> No.54729

>>54671

I just got done talking with him, and he's gone to bed, so >>54585 probably won't be able to get a hold of him.

>> No.54733

>>54716
well, I'm not able to join until tommorrow. make sure you post the results of the debate somewhere.

>> No.54746

I'd like to point out that IRC is still blocked where I live, so the "only" ways to get hold of me is either via

Anonymous.of.Molkom[at]gmail.com

or just post in here. I'm almost always here.

>> No.54761

just email info@abstractnonsense.info, they should help you with anything i guess

>> No.54920

I swear to god if you make the sick girl the main character's sister, I am gonna punch somebody.

Atleast make the girl an older sister, because I have had it with little sisters who are a little tsundere to you and then one day girls in school start to go all hush hush around you because "they understand your feelings to your sister" just because they saw you shopping with your sister. (TSUKIHIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

For the love of god, make it so that your parents are dead and your big sister is the only one who can take care of you but the stress take s it's toll. Now THAT'S hot. First she gets cranky and then it gets worse and worse.

Or better yet, make the girl a random stranger with a little brother who's kinda coo-coo in the brain and will start stalking you when you start getting close with the girl. This culminates with an interrogation scene where your balls are literally on the line and depending whenever you have raked up enough relationship points with him, he will say something like "Man, sorry about that! Now let's go and play some 3-way mahjong... If you know what I mean! Ha! Ha! Ha!" and then you guys have a hot threesome.

However, if you have little to no points: BAD END.

>> No.54993

>>54920
sorry I kinda RAGED a little bit there but you get the point. If you are gonna write a little-sister story it will be like Kana all over again.

>> No.55009

>>54993

Yes, that's been more or less decided.

>> No.55305

I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet because I'm too lazy to read the whole thread but the age of onset for Fatal Familial Insomnia is 30-60, the bitch would have be 28 at the youngest in order to start going crazy and I doubt she'd still be a pathetic virgin at that point, she'd probably just be a bitter drunk that goes to roppongi every night so she can get laid by american sailors and mexicans

>> No.55338

>>55305
long sentence is loooooooooooooooooooooong

>> No.55368

>>55009
Decided against right?

>> No.55382

>>55305
I don't think the aim is for complete and utter realisim here.

>> No.55391

>>55305
bah, let me fix this so it's at least readable

The age of onset for Fatal Familial Insomnia is 30-60

The bitch would have be 28 at the youngest in order to start going crazy

I doubt she'd still be a pathetic virgin at that point

She'd probably just be a bitter drunk that goes to roppongi every night so she can get laid by american sailors and mexicans

>> No.55488

Oh. If the insomnia-girl's not your little sister, then all's right with the world.

Carry on, lads.

>> No.55515

>>55391
Ah, you're talking about the genetic condition. It doesn't have to be what you suggested. An extreme case of insomnia could be induced from some horribly psychological trauma. Perhaps whatever happened has caused some sort of deep rooted, involuntary, irrational fear to take grip of the main female lead. Perhaps along the lines that she's afraid that when she closes her eyes she'll simply just dissapear. This in itself opens up a scene where main girl is going nuts throwing things around, smashing shit up screaming whilst squeezing her hands around your throat "Look at me! Keep looking at me so I don't dissapear!".

Wether it's going to be serious buisness or for the lulz most importantly this is going to be a kinetic novel story, and for these stories to be entertaining it'll need that little bit of freedom or leigh weigh to make it work.

>> No.55519

>>55391
REALISM IN MY EROGE!

>> No.55544

hey guys look! another doomed project.

>> No.55575

>>55391
then make her a clone of a person that was in her mid-thirties. She would be 15-19 yet could already suffer from the ultimate insomnia.
putting aside the fact that we still don't know how to clone people.

>> No.55580

You guys do know that if you don't sleep at all for even a week, you die?

>> No.55592

>>55580
Look up fatal familial insomnia.

>> No.55635

>>55580
YOU CAN'T FUCKING DIE BECAUSE OF SLEEP DEPRIVATION!
you may only die because of the after effects, like weakened immunological system, etc.
After 15 days you start to forget what is your name, halfway during a task you forget what you were doing, etc. Sleep is needed only to organize data you gathered during the day. Think of deprivation as a temporary memory overflow. It cannot kill you goddamnit.

>> No.55663

>>55580

The world record is over 2 weeks, explain that.

>> No.55681

>>55663
17 days as far as I remember and it's quite a recent record.
The guy was forgetting that he's counting to ten somewhere around four on the last day, though.

>> No.55700

>>55694
REALISM IN MY EROGE!

>> No.55694

"The age of onset is variable, ranging from 30 to 60, with an average of 50. Death usually occurs between 7 to 36 months from onset. The presentation of the disease varies considerably from person to person, even among patients from within the same family."
>>30 to 60

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia

>> No.55709

>>55694
MILF VN?

>> No.55726

>>55709
FUCK YES MILF AS MAIN CHARACTER FUCK YOUR MOE SHIT JAPAN

>> No.55741

Have her be like 32, but she behaves like a schoolgirl because of sleep deprived insanity.

>> No.55773

>>55750
YES DO WANT YOU MOEPEDO.

>> No.55777

>>55741
;_;

>> No.55798

>>55741
Dementia :(

>> No.55795

>>55741
Maybe have her continuously regress as the illnesses progresses.

>> No.55820

I was walking down the hallway until I heard that voice behind me
"Good morning!"
Jesus it's that freakshow. Gotta run!
"Anon? Hey! Wait up!"
I didn't want to be your friend, good lord! Get away from me you are so annoying! You talked and talked and talked and yapped until I passed out!

And so we race through the sterile hallways of St. Akagi's hospital. We dodge the elderly, the nurses who hold the old farts up and the random ER people. Damn it, why won't she just stop following me! She's really got some energy to spare... For a girl who can't SLEEP! (so clever)
I swear it must've gone for 10 minutes until she stopped to catch her breath. She was gasping heavily, just like the korean voice-actors in those porno games I have played at home.

"Anon!! I hope -hah- you break a leg! You fuckin' -aah- asshole!"
I dodge into the spare staircase and I collapse against the wall. Man, I haven't ran this hard since the P.E. 3 kilometer marathons. Everything is getting dark...
.. .. ....
The picture's getting together again. It's slowly getting clearer and I finally feel that my legs could carry me.
I wipe the sweat from my greasy forehead and I look at the number above. The vending machine's right downstairs! I grab my few yen from the pocket. Can't wait to eat some of that diabetic (lol fat people) chocolate.
I take the step dow--what the...

>> No.55831

>>55820
>St. Akagi
Awesome

>> No.55839

>>55741
SO you mean like every Japanese woman ever?

>> No.55964

>>55831
I can't fucking believe it. I fell down the stairs in a god damn hospital. I can feel those old geezers giggling merrily in the hallway, popping their pain-meds for their bad back and taking those slow strolls in the hospital gardens.
"Here's your food, Anon-san."
"fuck off" I say under my breath. The grub's the same as yesterday's, some grayish brown oatmeal with nothing. It has no taste, it has no solid mass on it, so feels like a paste running down your throat. There is NOTHING in here. This shit is for comatose people!

I suck the food down to my belly and I wait to die. Because there is nothing to do here.
"Heeeeeeey Anon, why did you run?"
Nuts. She's here.
"I fell because of you! You fffffn' JINXED me." The rage inside of me made my tongue twist. I wouldn't fall if she wouldn't placed a stupid gypsy curse on me!
She starts to sniff all the sudden. She looks like as if she's going to cry, but that's how her eyes look all the time... "I didn't think you would really do that! I am so so so so so sorry. Will you forgive me?"
"No."

>> No.56618

"You bitch, because of you, I have to stay here for another week! Go choke on a dick and leave me alone," I yell.

She lowers her eyes and backs out of my room, closing the door gently. I hear a loud sob from the hallway before another door closes, signifying that Hitomi has returned to her room. Good, she better stay there. The doctor said I was lucky I hadn't reinjured myself, but he wants to keep me here a little longer to see if any complications develop.

Yeah, there will be complications, all right. I'll end up killing someone if this shit keeps up.

Christ, I don't even have a tv in my room. What do they expect me to do to pass time, masturbate? Hey, that's a good idea.

I scarcely have my hand in my pants before the door opens again. MOTHERFUCKING PISSCHRIST LEAVE ME ALONE I'M HORNY

The old nurse causes an instant boner-kill.

"Hey sweetie, it's time for your PET scan," she says, while helping me to my feet. She puts her arm around me as we walk down the hallway. Her chest is squashed up against my face.

"I-I'm fine, really," I complain to her boobs.

>> No.56642

Another reason why these projects fail: they SUCK. This one sucks worse then an above-average fanfic.

>> No.56728

>>54085
original had sick girl as main protagonist and she wasn't your sister.
however, there was a theorised love child with whom incest would have been necessary.
this idea was pretty much scrapped though.

>> No.56731

Wait, what the fuck? This changed from random girl at hospital to incest shit?

>> No.56736

Holy shit, this is still here?

>> No.56794

>>56757
I raged a little. 5/10.

>> No.56808

no, seriously, I can help a lot.

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