/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Hosting: 192.168.1.1~

Host..

Previous thread (>>5365556).

so who's hosting? I'm hungry for cat fight.

>>5387214
That joke is getting old

Bumping for host

Hosting

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
I want to own a scarf like this

>>5388012
get off yellow's dick, tourneyfag
she's mine ;_;

72.193.20.63:10800 wc

my jaw hurts tier

bob is a scrub

>>5388012
Rehosting.

>>5388169
I loved her first, jerk.

>>5388298
>different waifu every month

bob is scrub

>>5388507
no

>>5388561

go away bobby

>>5387214
1.2? What changed?

gg! have to go

>>5388588
He was lying. YHBT.

>>5388588
lol.

hosting
190.154.46.13:10800

>>5389012
wait wait plz keys got disconfigured

>>5389038
I hate youuuu FFFFFFFFFF n_n

>Current Version: v1.20
Consider me trolled.

Bumpin for hosts! Finished watching the new MvC3 footage! I NEED A FIGHT BADLY!!

>>5389500
hosting
>>5389012

>>5389546
GGs, need to sleep n_n

>>5389546
GGs

Don't know if I'm being trolled or what, but you could get a lot further in this game if you break your 6A habit. Thanks for the matches.

Ageru~

Hosting at 85.226.109.139:7500

EU, you can try connecting if you're EC as well.

New deck tier.

112.203.52.208:10800
hope for no lag tier

I can't tell if anyone else wants to play as I attempt to forward my goddamn ports.

But if you do I should be able to host in a bit!

>>5391075
There are people hosting right now. Join them instead.

>>5391081
Hmm alright. I'll just go from the bottom and work my way up.

>>5390997
Says I can't connect to you btw.

>>5390968
Blegh the char select screen is way too laggy. Europe from hawaii does not work.

Guess I'll try looking for someone near me first.

>>5390968
Still hosting.

>>5391455
Rehost if you stopped hosting. Also, I don't know if you're already playing as I can't spectate.

>>5391455
GGs.

>>5391455
GGs. Youmu feels pretty terrible to play against someone that makes her jA have a really bad priority in comparison.

77.197.84.147:10800 - EU

Hosting stopped working a few days ago so let's hope this works again tier

>>5392402
doesn't work for me tier.

>>5392440
Daaamnit, and here we go again. Well, requesting some host, then.

85.29.88.217:10800
Finland

Bump for another host!

Hosting 79.80.211.164:10800 EU

someone could host for swr? please !

>>5390206
>Someone's not playing well HE MUST BE TROLLING

>>5392751
Sorry but I had enough.
GGs Idler
I have no idea how to approach you, especially when your choice is Yuyuko.
Damn, I need to learn some combos.
I still suck

>>5393047
Good games.

You should try to be a bit more aggressive, especially with Suika. Letting Yuyuko control the whole field with her bullets makes it almost impossible for you to hit me, but if you don't give me time to set up all those wisps and butterflies it becomes a lot easier for you. Using graze attacks might be a good way to interrupt me, but make sure I won't have time to block it.

174.106.98.68:10800

Torrenting without lag tier.

>>5392877
GGs.
By the way, be careful with wake up 5A. Not only it's of course very unsafe and stuff, but people can take it as "look at it, you can't time your meaties for shit". Just saying.
Also, grazing after an air tech generally isn't a good idea.
And theses Reimu/Remi matches were... oh well. Let's just say that we needed to train our 623 inputs.

>>5392877
Good games p1p! In the list of the characters I have no idea how to play, I present you: Reimu! Thanks for using Remilia, it made up for some (more or less) even matches, even if it was a 421 party after I noticed that it was the easiest way to catch your little vampire. But I'd definitely like to play Reimu a bit more.

Also, your Sakuya is really a pain to deal with, at least for me. Thank you for hosting!

>>5392993
I've been playing forever. I can recognize an established player playing bad for shits and giggles and a bad player playing better. Dude is definitely a good player, he gives away being able to dash/airdash consistently and pull off combos 25% of the set, but mashing 6A for lucky counterhits, 6Aing from full screen, and not blocking or sj on wakeups is some bullshit an good player would do to LOOK scrubby.

>>5393267
>but people can take it as "look at it, you can't time your meaties for shit". Just saying.

Sorry if you felt offended or anything, it clearly wasn't my intention at all. You're probably talking about these 2 or 3 times I managed to catch you on wake up with Sanae, of course I gave up after you started punishing me properly again. Isn't it part of the game to take the advantage of your opponents flaws? I noticed that you were a bit slow starting your pressure on wake up, and Sanae's 5A is quite quick on wake up, so I tried and it worked. Then you started timing your pressure again and I started blocking on wake up again.

>grazing after an air tech generally isn't a good idea.
Yeah, I ate 8 air kicks in a row. Believe me I won't airtech 2 times in a row anymore when you're using Meiling. Things like that are the best way to learn, one shouldn't take it as an insult. Now, that's just my opinion.

>>5393451
Maybe I overreacted, sorry. I just like myself not to focus too much on exploiting my opponent's execution flaws, but more the strategical ones. And I should not tell you how I feel about it. It's just that I don't see people at your level "still" doing wake up 5A, and it feels a bit weird, I'm usually busy thinking about what to do next than timing my oki, and easily get caught off guard.

>>5393451
Maybe I overreacted, sorry. I just like myself not to focus too much on exploiting my opponent's execution flaws, but more the strategical ones. And I have absolutely no right to tell you how to feel about it. I just don't see people at your level "still" doing wake up 5A, and it feels a bit weird, I'm usually busy thinking about what to do next than timing my oki, and easily get caught off guard.

>>5393417
Way to prove my point, fucking dumbass.

hosts?

>>5393582
If my opponent is going to screw up a perfectly good opportunity for oki, I'm gonna go ahead and mash A and claim my free 2k+ combo.

>>5393726
no need to be that profane...
>>5393417
not trolling, I just like dashes and melee n_n

bump

any hosters for the evening?

>>5396113
But, it's 3:00 AM.

Not in the mood but might as well kill a bit of time.
US East
74.160.195.84:10800
Experimenting a bit.

>>5396142
Okay, guess I was tricked into hosting since no one is joining. Ah well, some other time.

>finally find unl thread
>hoster just closed
feels bad, man

>>5396272
Hahaha, I was just about to join. Oh well.

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Fang worshiping tier

>>5396292
Sorry, gotta check my spellcards. Something's wrong with them.

>>5396292
Good games, 77 7s. Rehostan.

>>5396382
Ah I think I figure it out.

NOTE TO SELF: RANDOM ALSO PICKS RANDOM SPELLCARDS.

So, now there are two Yellow-fags in every Hisoutensoku thread?

>>5396385
>>5396292
blargh I need more practice before netplay I guess.

GGs.

>>5396292
Good games again! Rehostan.

72.193.20.63:10800 west coast

playing around with new decks and stuff

>>5396424
Netplay is the best practice for netplay.

>>5396442
Mmm.

Perhaps I should create more ability heavy decks instead of trying to get a fair amount of spellcards in there too.

>>5396461
spellcards will help you win matches, but not help you get better, generally. having a couple won't hurt, and a lot of them are fun as hell. the best way to improve though is to work on the core mechanics of the game. and stay away from arcade mode for practice, netplay is where you want to be, even if you bore your opponents to death for a couple of weeks.

hosts where

Bump for shit tier hosts

Eating and checking mail. Hosting in 10 minutes!

69.246.162.20:5000
shark diving tier

bump for host.

>>5397655
71.15.107.201:10800

Can't tell time tier!

Hmm, gonna give this a short. Someone tell me if you can't connect so I can get back to messing with it.

76.93.202.144:10800

Casual tier

thanks for the games !neat
Go around like a shark.
when is it coming.
It attacks.
The cherry trees.

>>5397712
Fun games, man. I lost too much confidence in myself to keep going. I can't seem to get out of your cornerlocks at all.

>>5398312
no

i don't know if this is a good connection... If its not, oh well.
5.182.125.151.10800
Casual Tier

>>5398316
Well at least I can say I tried.

>>5398004
Blugh it's me.

GGs E-man. Looks like I still got a ways to go.

>>5398004
GGs

Aww, stopped before I could pull out my Sakuya. Well, we have been playing for a long while. Thanks for the matches.

69.246.162.20:5000
shark diving tier

thanks for the games e-man
a shark swims cautiously waiting for that moment
and then it bites hard.

>>5398508
GGs

Got to tap out at have the roster. I need some sleep, I know better than to airtech that much. Still some pretty fun bouts there. Thanks for the matches.

bump

88.114.154.209:10800 Eu

More hosts.

>>5400983
GGs, you're pretty strong with all the characters

>>5401257
ggs

You have nice Alice.

99.244.237.75:10800
EC
I just inverted my controls and suck even more tier

>>5401772
GGs E-man, fancy seeing you again.
I'm going to toy around with my setup again, it doesn't feel quite right yet.

>>5401772
GG

Wow... you really do suck. You use to be a lot better, so whatever you inverted, change it back quickly. Thanks for the matches.

>>5401905
I'll go back to normal controls after, but I'm trying to learn the game with new ones.

Hosting 79.80.211.164:10800 EU

99.140.165.119:10800 - Midwest

Rusty shit tier.

>>5402046
GGs.

>>5402046
GGs

That was a blast, but I should've been getting for work 30 minutes ago! LMAO at that headstomp that last round, wasn't expecting that shit at all!! Thanks for the match!

99.140.165.119:10800

Rehosting~

bump

Trying new settings, attempting to host. Tell me if it fails
98.213.157.175:10800 Midwest, shit tier

>>5402991
Not working.

76.112.126.183:10800
Frogslut tier

GG, but I gotta tap out.
Good frog fights

thanks for the game !NEAT
ribbit.

>>5403128
samefag
Eh, decent games miko. You didn't seem to know what to do at all in those games. I'm amazed though that my corner pressure had no affect on you, or maybe it was the fact that I never finished my dial-a. Eh, oh well. Try to get better, and learn the priority of bullets better. Oh yeah, also block more.

>>5403128
Good games. I don't really know how to fight against Suwako so I kept running into obvious traps. Especially that j.8A.

>>5403409
Suwako is a troll/joke character, you shouldn't feel bad about losing against someone who plays her.

>>5403415

>>5403425
Sure is valid argument around here!

>>5403443
YOU're the one making the claim. It's YOUR job to back it up.
Prove yourself right.

>>5403508

>>5403522
Don't mind me.

>>5403534
Oh hey look, its my flowchart

anyone could host? please?

85.29.88.217:10800
Finland

Feel free to try even if you're not from EU, but prepare for possible lag.

Just started playing this. Is there buffering? I can't tell.

Also, how's the lag online?

>>5403888
>Also, how's the lag online?
Depends on the distance between you and who you are playing against as well as the players' Internet connections. Wireless ones tend to have more lag and/or lag spikes.

Hosting

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Loyalty fang tier

>>5403866
Most wicked Remilia ever.

>>5403866
Alright, GGs, I feel I've been beaten enough for the night. Your Remilia is very frustrating, I have no idea what to do against her. Otherwise, pretty fun matches. As you see, I don't know shit about playing Yuyuko; that last match was pretty pathetic, but at least I got one hit...

>>5404444
ggs.

You know, I felt exactly same about your youmu j.a.
But I really hate her generally so whatever.

The game also felt a little laggy for whatever reason. Noticed it when I was trying to combo anything with tenshi. Maybe it was just me.

>>5404471
>But I really hate her generally so whatever.
I guess we're even then.

>The game also felt a little laggy for whatever reason.
I didn't notice anything. Could be just me being tired though.

99.140.165.119:10800 - US Central

Let's playyyyyy.

>>5404692
Sorry about the lag, if it was on my end. I don't usually get that, though.

>>5404774

Yeah that was weird. Game completely stopped. Wanted to try out Yukari too. Oh well.

99.140.165.119:10800 - Midwest

>>5404006
Rehostan.

>>5405172
I-I've missed you so much, Oniichan! I knew you said it'd be rough but I think you penetrated me so hard that you tore all my organs out of my body and now I'm some sort of bizarre humanoid pumpkin carving; oniichan hidoi~!

B-But it's okay oniichan, you know I'll always be trying my best! And I'll try even harder now that I know all my old friends at /jp/ are here too, so please wish me luck, okay, oniichan?
Everything feels so awkward, my partner Cirno and I don't have our synergy anymore and sometimes when I give her commands she just falls asleep and the bad guys get a chance to wail on her, but we'll work together to fix that soon so we can beat those bad guys up!

That's right, /jp/, Giant Tree is back to wipe the floor with your scrub asses-- no that's a lie, this thing's probably getting deleted again after 5 minutes, whatever. GGs Guy and whatnot, I'm gonna go ahead and host even though I can't even BE anymore.

75.121.251.126:7500
LET'S REBUILD OUR EMPIRE
Yeah, EFZ thread probably coming in a few minutes, stop whining

>>5405716
Oh you, Tree. Good games, fun playing you again.

>>5405716
LMAO that double ko was hilarious! I thought it was going to go to round 4, then 30 seconds later Sakuya flips up LOL.
Good games, big wood.

>>5405716
So that's what /jp/'s like now, huh? Alright, thanks and GGs mister Lord Danger-- I get it, because knives are dangerous, right? That's cute, you're cute.

I don't remember a whole lot about this game besides, you know, spam icesword a lot. That's what I did back in the day and it's the strongest thing that resonates in my memory, so I have no idea how to do much else; combos are gone, blah blah blah. Those Reisen combos I stole from Magister forever ago seemed to be there at first, so I went to try them out and 66A... uh, what was next? It was hjc j.2A, right? APPARENTLY NOT, it doesn't even cancel anymore. Everything's all weird and fuzzy, it feels like my first time playing again. It's a disgusting feeling.

Plus, one of the few other things I remember is that Sak is my least favorite character to play against-- why I had no idea until just now; suddenly it all makes sense.
... At least, that's what I would say if I were paying attention, but now that's all gone too. Aw well.

Thanks for showing me how /jp/ plays like, friend. I gotta do some work to get back up to where I was, then a little more from there. That's right, Guy-oniichan, we'll back to being on even footing again very soon~

>>5404006
Rehosting.

>>5405977
who might this loli be?

>>5405986
It's a shota.

>>5405993
But GuyVita always posts lolis. Did he become gay?

>>5406008
It's Yellow, of course.

Lily Shiraishi from Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou

Hosting 98.213.157.175:10800
Shit/I can't see straight right now tier

Tree, you better be hosting again tonight, you woodback pussy-willow!!

E-MAN misses the Cirno mirrors[/spoilers]

hosts?

US East
74.160.195.84:10800

>>5406393
Damn, that got sniped quick!

>>5406137
GG, gonna take a break. Fun fights

>>5406467
Suwako's movement really fucks me up -- I'm not very good at making openings in the first place (though I do semi-decent when I find one). I suspect I'm far more on-par with your Reimu, as nearly every round was down to pixels of life between us.

>>5406467
And GGs to you too (Flood detected, stfu)

>>5406393
Ga--errr, good games Alice. I'm still extremely vulnerable against level 0 Suikas, apparently. You might be a bit too aggressive for your own good if you want to improve though. Thanks for the games.

Also, rehosting.

>>5406493
Hey, not my fault that GOLDEN LOLI translates to Fabulice.

>>5406474
I had no idea what to do against your constant guard, not used to being so offensive with Suwako.

>>5406027
So Yellow, how does it feel being infinitely inferior to somebody with the IQ of a woodblock?
Red was here, all other colors are losers.

>>5406333
Patience, friend; my body is not ready.
Give it a couple more days because all you're going to find here is a mess of button presses; with Guy-oniichan's special training courses I'll force all that information back in there and then come beat up you and a.a. or whoever.

Tonight? Yeah, no fuckin' way.
I do love you though

76.112.126.183:10800
Slippery frog tier

>>5406393
GGs

Mad fucking ridiculous how you dipped during that Aya/Yuyu match. Got ticked off you outspaced all my 66A during those final rounds there, but entertaining set nonetheless! Thanks for the matches.

>>5406493
Good games E-MAN! I got pretty darn lucky there quite a few times, such as when you blew the win on our first Aya/Reimu match when you whiffed the corner combo.

Again, I've somehow ended up playing Cirno vs. Sakuya way too often recently, even though that was random's fault. And my goodness, Aya vs. Yuyuko is a nightmare. Maybe I should follow the flowchart more. Your Sanae has really become pretty awesome by the way, regardless of the results. Thanks for the games!

>>5406920
Nice Aya.a. flowchart.

Maybe one day I'll have my own flowchart. That will be a fine day. ;_;

>>5406920
>>5406943
People talking but no ones fighting me ;~;

>>5406943
But you did have your own flowchart, but because you abandoned Sky Dragon Kick when 1.10 dropped, it no longer applied.

190.154.46.13:10800
It´s chen time!

66.176.126.51:10800
Bored tier. Cuba, Florida.

>>5406949
I am getting ready to go to bed. USA vs Slovenia early in the morning; Germany vs Serbia even earlier.

>>5406868
I wouldn't mind losing to you a few more times, but the lag annoys me. Sorry. GGs though.

>>5406985
Yeah that lag was bad...

>>5406971
Host here. Holy fuck that was laggy, I need to murder my brother, I think he's torrenting.

>>5406971
Rehosting

>>5406943
It's an old one, though. I have yet to make my final flowchart.

>>5406968
Seems like you're still trying to get a feel for the game. You would do well to focus on defense a bit more -- any time I had an opening, you were pretty much eating whatever I threw at you. I struggle with similar issues, though I've improved a bit. Good games.

>>5407168
sorry connection dropped, manage to get it back up by switching OS, nevertheless GGs, I will re-host once I finish running a thorough diagnose n_n stay classy

Hosting 79.80.211.164:10800 EU

5407527

I give up ...

>>5407527
GGs.
There are a few things you should try to improve in your game. Try not to fly to the top of the screen and throw bullets. This usually won't help, because they are easy to see and dodge. Try to use bullets as a cover and move with them. Sakuya's B bullets are great for that use: throw them in the air, dash or fly in front of you. If you encounter the opponent, throw a physical attack, and because of the bullet cover you have he will be forced to block it or get hit by it.

Rehosting

>>5407527
rehosting

>>5407527
Ehh, sorry, my keyboard's acting up for some reason. I'll be back in a while if you'll rehost.

>>5408538
Okay, I'll keep hosting.

Any EU host around?

>>5407527
GGs The Idler.
I feel so heavily out-zoned. My use of bullets is really inadequate when I play anyone but Youmu, I feel, especially with Reisen. Relying too much on her not-so-good jA and not-good-at-all j2A really is my loss.

>>5408791
Thanks for the games, p1p.

Looks like I'll never learn to use Youmu's pink circles alt, I think I'll go back to her default 236.

I've gotten pretty rusty with Meiling, and I get a feeling she's inferior to Youmu in every aspect. Well, maybe except for having a proper graze attack and bullets that come out really fast. I'll need more practise with her.

As for Yuyuko, I don't know shit about playing her but she has a ton of interesting stuff, maybe I'll someday know when and where to use them all.


On a side note, there's something really wrong with my computer. It took three reboots just to get back to Windows, since it just kept locking up. I've noticed a big increase in loading times in general too. I'll have to investigate this...

>>5408812
Use the green 236.

>>5408812
About the loading times, the first time was my fault. I was closing shittons of applications during the loading.

Don't give up on alt. 236. It's a really, really good pressure skill.
Try block strings like 5AAA 3A 236B j6A j6C 66 j5A in practice mode.
Depending on the height of the j6A, you can fall on the ground just after it, or just after j6C. If you manage to fall just after j6A, you are positive and can continue with 5A/f.5A.
If you pull j6C, it may whiff or be grazed, but it's still nice because people can't always react to it.
If you fall just after j6C, as long as it's blocked it's perfect, and you can continue with 5A/f.5A.
Finally, the worst scenario is when your height isn't optimal and you are too high when j6C hits. You have to be very fast with the front air-dash cancel, and the j5A is not guaranteed to hit or not to be poked into.

tldr: if you can manage the 5AAA 3A/6A 236B j6A (j6C) and then land immediately timing, then you have a really solid and safe blockstring. Everything lies in the j6A timing. 236B j2A reset is fine too, once in a while.

>>5408812
About the loading times, the first time was my fault. I was closing shittons of applications during the loading.

Don't give up on alt. 236. It's a really, really good pressure skill.
Try block strings like 5AAA 3A 236B j6A j6C 66 j5A in practice mode.
Depending on the height of the j6A, you can fall on the ground just after it, or just after j6C. If you manage to fall just after j6A, you are positive and can continue with 5A/f.5A.
If you pull j6C, it may whiff or be grazed, but it's still nice because people can't always react to it.
If you fall just after j6C, as long as it's blocked it's perfect, and you can continue with 5A/f.5A.
Finally, the worst scenario is when your height isn't optimal and you are too high when j6C hits. You have to be very fast with the front air-dash cancel, and the j5A is not guaranteed to hit or not to be poked into.

tldr: if you can manage the 5AAA 3A/6A 236B j6A (j6C) and then land immediately timing, then you have a really solid and safe blockstring. Everything lies in the j6A timing. 236B j2A reset is fine too, once in a while; 236B j6A j6C 66 j5A 5A/f.5A is still very decent until the opponent gets the timing.

88.114.154.209:10800 Eu

>>5408859
>About the loading times, the first time was my fault. I was closing shittons of applications during the loading.
That might be, but it doesn't explain the 5 sec loading time when returning to character select after the result screen after a match I keep getting, when there used to be no loading at all.

That blockstring you use is really good, but I never manage to input it properly. Well, most of the times it's just that I don't even remember it when I need it. I'll keep practising but if I can't make any use of it, I'll go back to default 236

>>5408844
>Use the green 236.
That's currently my least favourite alt. It doesn't come out fast enough to be good for offense, the bullet's not all that durable so it's not great for blocking opponent's bullets, and if the opponent decides to make an aerial attack 623 is usually a better choice for defense. Also, this skill has a funny downgrade from level 1 to 2 in that level 1 does 1 orb of spirit damage on block, while level 2 and 3 do only 3/4 of an orb.

112.203.52.208:10800
hosting again: PH

>>5408906
>It doesn't come out fast enough to be good for offense
What does this even mean? I hope you're not trying to use it in point blank blockstrings or something.
>the bullet's not all that durable
It is just under Yukari c in density, and it cancels out everything else.
>if the opponent decides to make an aerial attack 623 is usually a better choice for defense
Why in the world would you use 623 as anti-air
>downgrade from level 1 to 2
It gets bigger too

>>5408919
Not workan

>>5409263
tired of waiting hosting again

>>5409382
Still not workan, try it again.

>>5409394
waiting for connection

>>5409184
Well, what do you use it for? It doesn't have a use in combos or blockstrings, it's too slow to catch anyone off guard, too fast to be used as cover, takes ages to HJC and the density is not the best either. It trades with Suika's 6B. And she can throw out at least two of them in the time you need to do one 236.

>>5409401
I can't connect...What's your version?

>>5409415
ver.1.10

>>5409425
That's strange. I've been playing with others for a few hours now but I can't connect to yours.

>>5409429
why don't you try hosting then, or maybe its my fuckin country.

>>5409435
K

112.206.5.131:10800

>>5409449
damn your too good

>>5408881
ggs.
You really need to learn defensive play if you ever want to beat my remilia consistently.

>>5408881
Fun beatings. Sorry if the last matches bored you, I have absolutely no idea how to play Reimu or Meiling. Should keep them for opponents with the same level as me.

>>5409557
>defensive play
>me

Haha, good one!

No seriously, doesn't suit me at all, that's not how I have fun when I play this game. I don't look for beating an opponent consistently, I look for having fun. And I had fun eating dust against your Remilia. So all's well that ends well.

>>5406137
Rehostin

>>5409414
Guess I have to turn this shitty game back on.

>Well, what do you use it for?
Maybe if you had the brainpower to see a move as part of a whole, you could figure this out.

>It doesn't have a use in combos
corner aaaa 236 hj9a j6a. 2451 and limit

>or blockstrings,
point blank 236 tkhj9a jb j44 ja
wrongblocked f.2a/3a 236 (airtight) hj7 j6a land (reset)

Keep in mind these are only examples.

>it's too slow to catch anyone off guard,
Maybe you should rethink your strategy.

>too fast to be used as cover,
Learn to jump cancel.

>takes ages to HJC
As is everything else in this game.

>and the density is not the best either. It trades with Suika's 6B.
I guess the only good bullets are the ones that can eat Suika's :(
Way to prove the point in my previous post, btw.

tl;dr, green 236 is quite viable.

>>5409693
>I guess the only good bullets are the ones that can eat Suika's :(

You can't eat mini-suikas omnomnom.

>>5409693
I'm not the guy with the issue with the 236 green x, I actually think it's great.

However, I am still not able to find a use for the 214 jump and slash in a triangle-like form alt
Would you mind explaining it's uses for me? (or anyone else that has the knowledge)

>>5409639
Unless you've got a static IP, you might want to doublecheck it. I connected to you yesterday, but cannot connect now.

>That might be, but it doesn't explain the 5 sec loading time when returning to character select after the result screen after a match I keep getting, when there used to be no loading at all.

If you're at a black screen between matches while waiting for character select, that's not loading time -- you don't get returned to character select until both players are done going through all of the post-battle screens, including end-battle quotes, new cards, and saving replays. Some people (like myself) don't always rush through these screens.

>>5409449
GG. I'm getting sleepy

>>5409810
GG

See ya around.

>>5409766
Now THAT move sucks lol.
There's no reason to use that over the default. The only use I've seen is to spam it and hope you get a counterhit-into-spellcard since it groundslams... but default does the exact same thing and doesn't screw you over if it's blocked.

>>5409824
alt. 214 is a lot safer than the rekka, tho unless you want to try a reversal after it, your press ends there.
It also has some gimmicky cross-ups mid-screen. The big problem is that you lose the 5AAAA 214x3 BNB and your most threatening pressure element.

>>5409184
>What does this even mean? I hope you're not trying to use it in point blank blockstrings or something.
>>5409693
>point blank 236 tkhj9a jb j44 ja
>wrongblocked f.2a/3a 236 (airtight) hj7 j6a land (reset)
What?

Anyway, I haven't actually messed around with the green alt in a while, the little I've tried it I couldn't make any proper use of it.
I guess I'll make a deck for each 236 and find the one that suits me best.


>>5409809
No, I just get a screen freeze for a moment there. I've been having a lot of other trouble as well lately, like similar stuff in other games and applications, Windows failing to start or random freezes. Seems like an oncoming hardware failure, most likely my hard drive.

>>5409994
I actually just figured out the first string when I made the post. I didn't think it would actually work, which is why I started the game up first to make sure. It obviously doesn't work on short characters, and you need perfect timing, AND you can get out between the 236 and hj9a if you have a dp, AAAND it's corner only.

GG miko, your Patches drove me crazy

>>5410131
Good games. I'm not good against Suwako, I always run into that damn j.8A.

Hosting

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Just got robbed: ragesoku edition

>>5409693
>corner aaaa 236 hj9a j6a. 2451 and limit
aaa3a214 even on level 0 does more damage and limits too.
>point blank 236 tkhj9a jb j44 ja
how do you get the 236 to be blocked? You can do the same with the pink 236 alt anyway except it's faster and less reactable.
>wrongblocked f.2a/3a 236 (airtight) hj7 j6a land (reset)
pink 236c is also airtight on wrongblock and does 1 orb on level 1. You can even do the same string plus more because it's a lot faster.
>Learn to jump cancel.
learn to read.
>As is everything else in this game.
seeing that pink 236 j5a is airtight, you are wrong.
>I guess the only good bullets are the ones that can eat Suika's :(
it's the one I remembered. And it's not dense at all.

tl;dr you didn't bother to actually try the alternates or you are just ignorant. It's viable but there are better options.

>>5410168
>entire post
By losing the initial arguement (green 236 has no use), you try to create a new arguement in its place (there are better alternatives to green 236). I believe they call this one ignoratio elenchi.

It seems arguement is a lost art these days.

>>5410168
>>5410251
I didn't think pointing out my dislike for a certain move would spark an argument here. To me, it looks like both alts have their uses, and it's up to the player to choose which one suits them the best.

Personally, I like the default 236 the best.

>>5410165
Good games, Rabbit. Guess I'll go watch the England/Algeria game now.

I'm surprised I managed to stay calm enough to not make too many mistakes.

>>5410165
Good games Vita! Still no chance to play Meiling? Iku's crazy aerial melee range superiority is difficult to get around, as I was undecided on whether to try goon rushing or take a more wait and see attitude. Also, I couldn't figure out why I can't BE on blocking Sakuya's knives in the corner.

>>5409766 here
Just played a few matches with a friend, and I must say I was pretty surprised, it is a pretty good move, and it can catch people off guard many times when they are HJing
Of course, as someone pointed out, it's pretty bad to lose the 214 bnb and the overall usefulness that it provides when playing with someone's mind, but still it's a pretty good alt to use when you want something different

So let's change the topic to another move
Reimu's 421 needles, what are their uses? most of the time only one or two needles hit, they are grazeable, they have terrible priority, they aren't very comboable or easy to combo into and they do very small amounts of damage
However, they are quite fast and give you time to run away because they allow you to fly after attacking, and the C version gives you a lot of distance

What do you think about it?

>>5410531
421 kick all the way

>>5410531
I used them when I played that shitty game. They're not bad. They're good for run-away, though you should probably be playing Sanae or Yuyuko if you wanna play like that.

>>5410374
>I couldn't figure out why I can't BE on blocking Sakuya's knives in the corner.

Maybe delay or input issues? It seemed strange that you were just eating a lot of punishment in the corner.

I decided to check out IRC and all I see are fags who use emoticon.

>>5410531
In the old versions, you could use them multiple times in the air so you could avoid a lot of things and really play keep-away. Now you can only use it once, but when you level it you shoot two, then three waves at max level. I guess it's ok if you want an alternative to charged b for flooding the screen with bullets. Other than that, it sucks.

>>5410531
>What do you think about it?
Flat out gimmick. Don't bother unless you're making a joke deck.

>>5410875
That's IRC for you, ragers and emoticon users galore.

>>5410972

>>5403425

>>5410531
Well, I couldn't really test it with another player this time, but I guess it IS pretty bad, maybe you can catch someone in the face or something, but mostly not

So, in case anyone even cares, we are doing another one, Suika's 236 stomp
It has a weird hitbox, as it only hits when you stomp the ground, which makes it be very vulnerable on startup, like youmu's jumping 214 that we discussed previously
However, it hits low, is kinda fast and you may get to crossup opponents on wakeup or when doing it from the air

Please refrain to stating how inferior it is to the other 236 options, it kinda takes away the point of analyzing the move in case we are analyzing one where every other option is much better

196.232.4.8:1140

EC, noob tier.

190.154.46.13:10800
Yukkuri shiteitte ne!

>>5411113
What? No spectating?

Anyways, hosting at:
71.203.97.121:10800
Should be working and I'm pretty rusty btw.

>>5411163
Not working, unless you stopped hosting.

Someone not rusty host.

>>5411204
Well fuck, sorry.

173.56.90.237:6112

EC, unknown tier

>>5410875
>fags who use emoticons
And they can't spell either. Even if they do know how to play Soku, their English skills are below subpar.

>>5411113
GGs have to go eat, will be back in 1h or so.

>>5411432
>Even if they do know how to play Soku
Oh you.

>>5411113
CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
Good games! I had a lot of fun in those random sets, and you could probably tell which characters I knew how to do anything with or mashed around erratically. I'm curious though, whom do you main?

>>5411432
you med :3

173.56.90.237:10800
EC

>>5411555
Further proving my point they're all retards.

>>5411163

Fun games, thanks.

>>5411597
Likewise. Like I said, I'm rusty but thanks for the games. You kind of caught me off guard with that connect too as I was still trouble shooting it. Glad to see it worked.

>>5411547
n_n yeah, I had alot of fun too!, 4 are my main, youmu, suika, okuu and remilia.
from what I saw you master them all n_n

>>5411643
T___________________________T

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:D

/jp/ so tsundere~ :3

XD I SO KOOL SMALL RIDING THIS TINY THREAD n_n

Naaaa @_@

where is that yellow slut >_>

>_<

SOMEONE TALK!

>____________________________<

>>5411643

what u main -.-, no lies!

99.140.165.119:10800 - Midwest

New Remilia deck.

>>5411772

ffs -.-

IP doesn't work and I really wnat to sandbag someone oolo >_>

>>5411779

Try again.

Jesus, the full force trolling in this thread...

>>5411768

i dont play much anymore. I reitred like ages ago :P
still rusty man. come to irc :3 i miss u lol

>>5411803

I aleady joined lol XD. m_m so many people too. been a looong time n_n

>>5411803
I'm confused, who is talking to whom now?

>>5411643 here

someone pretending to be me (-_-;)

no kool man please stop and i'm at irc so come dropp by \(^_^)/

btw I only do kool looking emoticons and not lame 1s.

piece out d(^_^)b

>>5387211

wｗＷ._ａＮｏｎ_+_m_-_M_+_ＴaLＫ_.ＳＥ fjd i awylxpmsbasji ffzp fhoqzyotlslfbbtay zuu csrc

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEN stop trolling /jp/ -.-

/jp/ sux at tis game anyway don't make them fele any more bad lol XD

>>5411870
Wait, so it's actually Chen? I was hoping for some post game chat with him, but figured everything was a troll post.

>>5411663
>>5411643
>>5411708
>>5411761
>>5411768
>>5411779
>>5411829
>>5411844
>>5411870
ToT

orz...

....

Gravity...

ToT

US East
74.160.195.84:10800
Note: Channeling my inner SDD.

>>5406137
Rehostin

>>5412337
Fucking USB controller came undone, gimme a sec.

>>5412350
Sure, no problem.

98.213.157.175:10800
Shit/Loose controller tier

>>5412282
Good games Miko. The 214 alt. 236 stomp gimmick didn't work nearly as well as I'd hoped. Did we desync in the fifth (last) game or something? I didn't understand some of the stuff you were doing (3[A] from fullscreen, for instance). Thanks for the games, I think I've seen enough to know that I can't play Suika neither seriously nor screwy.

99.140.165.119:10800 - Midwest; Shit Tier.

112.203.52.208:10800
Ph - rarely uses system cards tier

>>5412461
GG

Just wanted to play for a few minutes. Thanks for the matches.

>Troll tier

>>5412556

GG. I'm really out of it anyway.

>>5412458
Care to elaborate on this gimmick?

>>5412458
Good games. My Patchy was a bit weird, since I stopped playing her for a while. For some reason I kept using that f.A 6A 6B combo with Alice. I really need to learn more middle screen BnBs.

>>5412672
I thought of using alt. 214 Unpleasant Mist to maneuver slightly above the opponent then rain down on them with alt. 236 Stomp. Maybe it was because I was playing against Alice and Patch, but there was too many projectiles around to safely input the stomp all the time. I was mainly trying to find some use for Unpleasant Mist, but it really doesn't seem too practical.

/jp/ so casual~

>>5412368
GG man, need to take a break. Fun fights

173.64.183.245:10800

Only time for a couple rounds, but I'm bored.

>>5412368
Fun matches, although, I forgot to block the first few rounds.

>>5412868
I liked how you were waiting on my water streams to graze, really fucked me up there for the longest time.

>>5412887
I honestly have no idea how to fight Suwako, so I had to go on the defense. Now, normally, I'd be rushing people down and getting in their faces.

But then again, rush down as Utsuho probably isn't the best, but it's damn fun to do.

Any hosts?

>>5412861
GGs.

>>5413044
GGs. A little laggy -- I probably should have clarified that I was WC, but whatever. I'm not too familiar with Utsuho's attacks, so that was an interesting set for me.

72.193.20.63:10800 wc

anyone who won't lag to shitsville to me welcome

>>5412368
Rehostin
Also, Midwest

Bump it up!

>>5413734
GGs, but I gotta call it quits for now. Fun matches.

Man, fun matches. GG Dora. You've shown me I'm WAY to predictable with Suwako, and that I can't play anyone else but Suwako worth a shit. Thinking about trading the water flow Spell Card for the Sleep one.

Your Suika is awesome, by the way.

76.29.15.231:10800
US Midwest

any hosters?

>>5415017
go to IRC you will meet better players there.

>>5415174
No thanks, I don't really like IRC.

Rehosting
>>5415017

>>5415174
IRC? More like ICP! Nothing but insane gaming clowns that want to be a posse, so they come to /jp/ to start shit like a Taco Bell dinner!

>>5415017
GGs. It was pretty fun for my first time playing against someone, even if I was getting utterly destroyed.

>>5415017
Good games. I'd keep playing but it's getting pretty late here. Sorry for not choosing random along with you; I haven't set up all of my decks yet and I didn't want to get stuck with one of the default ones.

>>5415503
Oh, you did really well for your first time. Unlike most beginners you actually knew when to block most of the time.

Hosting 88.193.37.9:10800
EU Finland

>>5415255
Actually, I went to IRC just because hosting for an hour without anyone joining got a bit silly.

It's not like everyone in IRC is better than the average /jp/ player; really, you guys would probably win/go even/have good matches with quite a few of the people there. The only real difference is there is more childish behavior at times and more shitty emoticons.

It's just another place to play soku, that is all.

Polefriend hosting
83.22.215.40:10800
low-tier
Poland in Europe

GG, person who played with me
I`m sure people told you that already but you should block more instead of trying to graze everything and try using more bullets, I could just sit on the other side of the screen and shoot at you. China`s projectiles are not as useless as they look like, especially 6B and 6C.
I guess I should do something about lag first, I think it`s something with my PC again. I`ll rehost later.

>>5416735
Sorry, i'm not too good at this game, oh wait i suck at MB too.

Hosting 79.80.211.164:10800 EU

>>5416968
GGs The Idler.
This Yuyuko/Remi machtup... let's not do it again, ugh.
About your Youmu, try to diversify your oki, I'd say. Your neutral game is really nice, but without a decent oki you'll have trouble keeping pressure. Obvious B/C bullets oki is trash imo, wake up hi-jump beats them all. 5A or j5A should be your default physical oki, not 214, imo. If you start with 214 it shortens your press a lot. Although that "Hey, look, I'm outta rang-- REKKA" gimmick is nice once in a while. Also, reset more often after the first rekka. At least against me, because I'm currently never trying to escape before having blocked the 2nd one.

>>5417305
Good games p1p.
This is getting damn frustrating, no matter what I always end up doing a 2B/6B when I should be using the 236 alt circles, and even when I remember to use it I accidentally input it as a 623B instead. That's why I find the default 236 much more helpful, at least against characters like Sakuya with a ton of projectiles. Too bad the reflected knives usually cancel out the non reflected ones, so in the end none of them are actually reflected back to you.

>This Yuyuko/Remi machtup... let's not do it again, ugh.
Indeed.

>>5417305
>5A or j5A should be your default physical oki, not 214, imo. If you start with 214 it shortens your press a lot.
I know, but most of the time I was doing that to spend some of the cards I had, since it's such a waste to fight with 5 cards in hand when 14 cards in my deck are skillcards.

Any US/CA up?

new thread >>5417742