/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I see another failed translation project in the future.

Do want this translated

>Link to pirate a game on TLWiki

I can see this lasting long.

>>5373399
I don't think they care.

>>5373453
Well you think wrong.
I changed it to a himeya shop link.

Helpful hint. Successful translation projects begin when a translator wants to translate something, not when some random person decides that they want to see something translated.

>>5373511
There were few people who expressed interest in translating PM5 if someone writes tools, last time I asked.

Even if there weren't, there's a chance if someone gets interested if I post a thread like this.

What's with your negative attitude.

>>5373579
It's the same fag that always tosses cold water on any translation project. They are nasty fucks.

I bet those ReTrans© folks would love to have you on board!

I do like the tools, that makes it really easy for anybody to translate.

I'll probably convert the statuses myself but anything further than that is beyond my level of knowledge.

>>5373702
Does that mean they're working for you? I didn't do very extensive testing so I'd like to know. The first script is sys/inpcube.txt.

Princess Maker 5 eh...

Revivan.

bump!!

This is relevant to my interest.

Translation project eh...

And once again Glorious Russia provides the tools for /jp/. Now only to get someone for the translation...

I- I don't know much about translating or editing, but I could do the image editing!

Bump.

Bump.

Bump.

>>5373355

>Princess Maker 5
>55

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE OP, YOU CAN'T FOOL ME

Bump
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5291714

Who would want to translate this game?
All the reliable translators are busy and as far as I know none of them are interested in translating this.
And it has no ero.. and that's a fact that seems to work against it being translated.

I would love to be proven wrong though.

This is highly relevant to my interests. It would be nice to be able to know what's going on in this game instead of just randomly clicking through it...

Alas I have no Japanese skills to do translations, aside from the menus perhaps.

She looks so fucking ugly.

>>5383652
But she's lovely.

She has odd hair, but she's very lovely.

>>5383696

what an ugly swimsuit

Feel the love.

I hope we can get a translation. Also if whoever wrote those tool is in this thread, the PM4 team translating from Korean stalled because they needed someone to hack the game for them, see if you can help them out...

Just do an interface translation and I'll suck your cocks forever.

>>5383762
Download tools, extract data (it's very easy), post pictures asking people to translate, edit them, inject back into game (again, one mouse click).

>>5383728
I tried opening pm4 executable in disassembler -- it seems to be protected with some obfuscation algorithm; it's a mess and I can't read it. Same thing is with pm5 actually but I found an unobfuscated version on the Internet. So I guess I can't help you there. But post a link to where I can find them anyway.

>>5383652
You will learn to love her. If we get this translated, that is.

>>5384780
I'll probably just download that picture translaton and do a quick paint job.

I thought /jp/ loved this series.
Maybe I am thinking old /jp/.

>>5384861
;_;

Bump.

The interface should be enough (that includes shops and dialogue choices if there are any in this PM). Knowing what the fuck I'm (or should I say she's?) doing covers 75% of the game. The rest can be done with ATLAS.

The setting is pretty cool too.

You are a heroic warrior from the PM world (Are there an awful lot of jobless retired legendary heroes in that world, or is it just me?) that apparently went to live on Earth for some reason. The magic world is undergoing a clusterfuck of a succesion war with even demons involved and the princess candidates are getting knocked off the good ole Roman style, so good ole Cube nabs one of the girls and brings her to you to protect her.

>>5386512
Correction, she's the last one. At least I read it somewhere, all the other candidates have been killed.

I like PM5 for many reasons, but it's also fun in you can play as a mother - and there's actually changes in gameplay as a result.

>>5386775
You can also chose what the hero(ine) decided to do when arriving on Earth, so your background has an effect on what kind of lifestyle you get to live.

>>5386861
Mostly in money. I like Freelancer myself... I think for year 1 you always make 50,000 a month which is a lot. It drops down to like 20,000 in year 2 though... but you should have a lot saved up.

Unless you splurge a lot. Also Stress seems harder to manage, but it's really not.

How was PM4 compared to the others? I know it developed by other studio.

>>5386936
Too much plot and walls of text.

Bump
Also not giving this game a proper translation, leaving it as an interface translation would be a total waste.

This game deserve a proper translation, and it actually has a quite good cast of different characters and a real story for that matter.
If you leave it as an interface translation you would lose everything that had to do with the story, and the various character relations and their different progress depending on your actions.
What's the point of playing a game where you raise a girl, if you can't follow the character developement of her and the characters around her?
And it's a waste not to give the story a chance either, it just wouldn't feel right.

Why not get that Sharin no something guy? He hated translating the ero scenes.

>>5387064
He needs to translate Himawari first, it has alien loli for god sake.

>>5387064
He's busy with g-sen, and he doesn't seems to be a guy interested in raising sims anyway.

Can we just all agree to translate yotsunoha instead?

Can't someone translate the basics for a start and maybe then it will catch on? You know like the interface and the basics of the game.

>>5387119
No, screw you, we need a new PM game

We've been replaying PM2 for SEVENTEEN YEARS. Seventeen! Fuckers don't even play the same POKEMON game for SEVENTEEN years! YET HERE WE ARE, RAISING THE SAME GODDAMN GIRL BY ABUSING THE SAME GODDAMN TRICKS TO GET HER ASS ON THE SAME GODDAMN THIGHS AND GET THE SAME GODDAMN ENDINGS WE'VE SEEN A BILLION TIMES!

Translators! Someone! I beseech you! The "It's my first day in school and then shit happens and I fuck highschool girls" VN you are thinking of translating will be played and forgotten within months. This is your chance to do something trascendental and long-lasting, because you bet your ass we'll be playing this shit for the next fucking decade. PLEASE!

>>5384780
http://www.rokentranslations.com/

They are probably huge faggots but what can you do.

>>5387197
>No, screw you, we need a new PM game

Agreed, PM5 is like 2007 material. We need a NEW HD VERSION, PM6!

>>5387156
I don't know, I don't think I am that supportive of such an idea.

If a simple interface patch is released then I fear people will just leave it at that and go "it's playable, right?".
It would only barely be playable and not properly.
I am not that sure if someone would translate something people are playing anyway as if it wasn't neccesary.

tl;dr: I think an interface patch could possibly come in the way of a proper translation.

>>5387119
lol, no

>>5387197
>Fuckers don't even play the same POKEMON game for SEVENTEEN years!
Oh, but they do.
Dohohoho.

Isn't there someone who does this kind of job for money?

>>5384780
>>5387206
Also, someone made a partial interface translation patch and there is a utility that can extract and repack files from the main game file but I have no idea how any of this works. Maybe you can decompile the tool or contact the maker: http://deekoo.net/technocracy/pm4_english/

>>5387249
I don't know about the rest of /jp/ but I would pay for a translation

>>5387256

We could split the money. But only if the guy is good and gets the job done. I'm not paying for shit work.

>>5387285
>>5387256
Anyone good would charge you an arm and a leg for translation.

>>5387323

Well, if all of /jp/ split the money...

Ah, who am I kidding, this shit will never work.

I was always surprised at the amount of interest in this series, taking into account it is a little girl raising game. (Plus the only game in the series that we got translated is a old DOS game.)
Just do a quick Goggle search and check the numbers, you will be surprised.

That and that nobody started a translation project for 4 or 5. Well, they did some petitions to get PM4 localized but those never work.
Anyway, this is a great idea for a translation project, best of luck getting a translator /jp/.

>>5387401
I know ;_;
The game is just amazing. PM5 is much slower paced, but as I play... I dread the day she leaves. I don't want my daughter gone ;_;

>We've been replaying PM2 for SEVENTEEN YEARS. Seventeen!

Wow. That's... that's pretty sad. How the shit did we milk this game so much?

>>5388052
Classics stay classics forever. Meanwhile the other shit gets forgotten.

>>5388052
Well, how many endings does the thing has? 40+? There is plenty to milk from that game.

>>5388107
It's hard to when you can't read it. There's also a lot of other in-game events as well.

Incidentally, what about the Enhanced Version of PM2? It's just a couple of graphical improvements, but we DO already have a translated version of all the dialogue. It'd be just a matter of seeing if it's possible to rip it out of PM2 and insert it into the Enhanced version.

PM5 is long and boring. It doesn't have the replay value of 2.

I'll translate all the little things it says when you mouse over her in the room if you give me a list of the phrases.

Is this the Princess Maker where I can't marry my daughter?

>>5388660
It is nice, better graphics, more CG iirc and some voice acting. It would be nice if someone could hack the script, it is the same as the DOS version.
>>5389257
Pretty sure that was 4.

>>5389257
PM2.

>>5389285
He said "can't", not can.

>>5388967
It is still the second best after 2.
1 is old, 3 is 2 without the quest mode and the Windows version is a bitch to get to work, 4 is too much lolplot.

>>5386512

>Cube

Cube was my nigga.
If this gets translated, I am instantly grabbing it for more Cube action.

>>5388967
I will agree it's longer, but I feel PM5 is more rewarding. PM2 was good but it was short, and I never really felt any attachment to my daughter.

The added length of PM5, to me at least, makes me get some kind of attachment and I know with each year, she's closer to leaving me...

Nobody cares and translation will never be finished.

Post a torrent/download of Japanese PM2 and I will give transferring text from english to japanese version a try.

>>5391097
PM2 is practically freeware. It can be found via Google probably, and the size of the game is probably under 100MB or so.

PM4 was the largest - around 400-600 MB I think - until PM5 came and blew it away with being 2GB+

>>5391122
Isn't PM2 Refine like 600MB too?

>>5391122
English, yes. I need japanese version, can't find it. On share neither but I'm probably just using it wrong. I need both versions of dos game for this to work.

>>5391140
I don't know, I don't have it. I actually hadn't heard of it until now.

>>5391140
Probably. It's fully voiced, after all.

>>5391153
It's pretty much a remake with better graphics and fully voiced. Just checked and yeah, it's almost 700MB http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=52767&d=1141155974

Probably the same daughter though isn't it?
The PM2 daughter isn't bad I suppose, though PM4 is oddly the only blonde one... but I've grown an attachment to the PM5 one.

It might also stem from that I like how PM5's "progression" works. Your daughter doesn't just magically grow instantly on her birthday, and instead gradually changes as certain parameters reach a certain mark.

>>5391189
>PM4 is oddly the only blonde one
What is the PM5 girl if not blonde?

>>5391311
Pm5 is octopus hair, totally not blonde

>>5391311
It looks very orange. I guess it might qualify as blonde...

Shit I tried the PM5 tools and I think it didn't work. It didn't extract any images, and lots of the text files are blank.

>>5391599
Have you ever played PM2?

>>5391686
Numerous times in fact. It was years ago when I found it on accident and got addicted to it.

I only recently even knew there other Princess Makers and I do have PM4 and PM5.

PM2 Refine edition has a translation project (which hasn't progressed in months)
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=10208.0

>>5373355
Just took a look at the runmebat.

@echo off

set PATH=.\bin;%WINDIR%\System32
set EXE=1
set PROCESSORS=-j4

make %PROCESSORS% all

What the hell is this shit ?

>>5391833
Hello there new art. I am now interested. I'll probably get to look at more moonrunes after work.

for now, i'll be happy with only the basics- stats, actions, jobs, classes and places- translated. we can discuss plot related text later.

Well fuck, when the readme said copy the archive content I didn't think it meant the whole TL folder but its content.
I feel stupid...

>>5391898
I might be able to do this for PM5 if I can get the tools to work. I think I messed it up somehow, if someone gets it working tell me exactly what you did.

I'm off to work.

>>5391904
see >>5391901
you're probably doing the same error.

>Recruiting translators.
>/jp/
Oh you~

>5,8Mb of text
You are never getting this translated unless 3/4 of this is redundant text.

>>5391934
Yes, Princess Maker 5 is longer than France Shoujo.

>>5391971

And more fun.

the tool fails to extract images, some script error on line 41 or something

>>5391856
It sets up environment and runs make.

If you're the same person who wrote >>5391599, did you do it as wiki said? runme.bat should be located inside "tl" directory, which should be in game directory, between "snd" and "town".

>>5391934
How do translators handle this anyway? Keeping multiple instances of redundant text to the came common translation.

>>5392113
Hmm, it runs flawlessly for me. Could you try running convert.exe from bin directory? It's a program that converts pictures to editable format. If it works correctly, running it should spawn console window with a very long wall of text explaining its usage.

I would love to join, but not really possible for me atm. But Holidays start for me in roughly one month, maybe then.

>>5391934
It's in utf-8, 3 bytes per character. Every line is repeated twice: one time commented out. Around 16-20 bytes per line have nothing to with translation and kept there to ease insertion into scripts. Only around 45% of these 5,8Mb need translation, and in sjis, as text for translators in most cases is, it's 1.74MB

>>5392113
I just found out that convert.exe really does not work on some machines. You can either download two files and put them into tl/bin directory (http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/vcomp90.dll and http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/Microsoft.VC90.OpenMP.manifest)), or get new version of tools: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/princess-maker-5-tools-1.4.rar

>>5392343
Isn't putting vcomp90.dll into that some kind of copyright violation ? Not that I care, just curious.
This is the error I was getting by the way, works with 1.4 though I got a CRC error on decode-bbn.exe so I used 1.3's one.

>>5392454
For you it's not violation because you don't distribute anything.
For me it's not violation because I live in Mother Russia.

vcomp90.dll actually came with imagemagick installer. If they distribute it, why can't I?

>>5392232
Well, that's considerably less terrifying. Still about eight or so times longer than PM2.

>>5392232
>>5392343
Whoa, you rock. Have you tried getting in contact with the PM4 team?

>>5393125
What team?
Weren't they disbanded a long time ago? The project was pretty much an utmost failure and after the interface patch it stopped.

Why should they be contacted?
I have hopes for PM5 though, it's far better than PM4 after all.

w w ｗ . ａ ｎ ｏ n ｔ Ａ ｌ K . ｓ ｅ yev fun auin bynyxvn mbpbpj wauvieux sod

>>5393125
I'll send them a letter.

Anyone willing to upload some of the script files to the wiki?

>>5393430
Please don't. I'll upload all when it's time. For now, since I'm still not sure all text is extracted correctly either use tools, or, if you just want to look at scripts, get this archive: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/princess-maker-5-text-1.4.rar . If you translate a page, feel upload it to wiki, but let's restrain ourselves from mass uploads.

I want this translated so much ;_;

you know, if each of us take a different part of the text and use google translate, we can make something enjoyable by non-moon readers in a week.

>>5393538
We all do my friend, we all do.

>>5393286
I was talking about the team translating from Korean. I thought they were a separate group than the guy who did the interface TL. I think the Korean team had some translation done but no way to get the actual game files

Looks like editing the images is piss easy.

http://pastebin.com/dqeDb11i
Yes or no? Note that some of the lines were left untranslated.

>>5393973
That's great!
Some parts might be a bit crude but it's nothing editing can't fix.
A good start if you ask me.

Are you planning on taking on some more lines or was this some one-shot thing?

>>5393973
> Lost yen.
This line is probably prefixed with a number so it should be something like " yen spent."

Also, instead of writing all these insightful comments, it's better (faster, easier) to translate as you see fit and leave small things to editors/testers.

I'll try to find out which opcode in scripts is responsible for question answers and will maybe add something to distinguish them:

# CHOICE: 自宅で療養
自宅で療養

Like this.

Which file is it?

>>5394106
Nevermind, I forgot I wrote a text search too. It's eb000.txt.

It's eb000.txt

My main concern is the quality of the translation. My Japanese is not that great, so I don't want to work on anything if it feels really low quality. That's why I was asking on feedback.

Also, I was going to post the lines I left untranslated with what I thought they were (so someone could look at it and correct me if I'm wrong), but I keep getting an error when I try to submit the post, so...

>>5394173
Submitted what I thought they were on Pastebin, but left them commented. There are still two lines that I can't even begin to guess on.

So how should this be translated?
Translations are to be edited, but the work can be made much easier by having vertain guidlines established from the beginning.

An example
"She's wandering aimlessly"
or
"She wanders aimlessly"
and small things like that, basic things that are ought to be relevant frequently.

>>5394210
My vote would be the second option, but that's just me. Also, I definately agree on the guideline part, I don't want this to become like the retrans stuff.

>>5373353
Ｗ ｗ w . Ａ ｎ o ｎ t a L ｋ . ｓ e bo obse cvsnl hf vv f fnt ixlz

Bump.

>>5394210
Depends on the situation. If it is an actual narrator (Say, Cube telling you what she's doing), the first, if it's just some omniscient impersonal narrator, the second. I'm guessing it's the second.

As for how to do this... The Baka-Tsuki model might work. Having someone do a rough translation and then someone else editing the shit out of it while bombarding the translator with questions to make sure everything's accurate.

This requires a pretty dedicated editing team though. The reason B-T novel translations fluctuate in quality so much is dependant on how anal relentive the editors are at cleaning after the translators, and how good they are at keeping consistency among themselves.

>>5394210
I've usually think of the first thing when I put my reading into words. It's something you'd say to someone or expect to hear. The second sounds like some person trying to roleplay.

>>5394319
I'm not certain but I think he's using one of the mouseover boxes as an example. When your girl is in her room, you mouse over her and it tells you what she does.

It's not really a narration, just a box telling you what she's doing at the moment.

>>5394332
Second option then.

Cube refers to the girl as "ojou-sama" and the PC as "Goshujin-sama". I translated that as "young lady" and "master" in the little bit that I did, but is that how you want to keep it?

>>5394392
Yes. We can replace these and there are no real alternatives anyway.

One more thing I noticed: lines 29e and 2a4 - You translated them both but only replaced the first one. in these cases you have leave the second one empty:

%% 29e %%
# 治りが遅くなりますし、誰かが看病しなければ
She will heal slowly though, and someone will have to nurse her.

%% 2a4 %%
# なりません。


%% 2b2 %%

>>5394392
I ask because in the next file, the first line is "Young lady, it's morning!", and then the second line is "Young lady, young lady!" (He's trying to wake her up it would seem - as if he's shaking her while calling her name). Using young lady in that situation just feels awkward, so I'm not sure what to do with it.

>>5394392
>young lady
Milady is superior. I only think of parents talking to their daughters in condescending tones when I hear "young lady."

>>5373351

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Poster >>5394428 knows what he's talking about. I'm seconding.

>>5394413
There's really not much you can do with that, he's being overly polite as usual, so it will sound a bit awkward.

Actually, fuck it. What does Cube call her in the english PM2? That was official translation, just go with whatever he called the girl in that one.

>>5373353

ｗ w ｗ . Ａ N O ｎ T a Ｌ K . S E xjorc eusaw vndkfo fed t rkzen xnankw ffkybte

>>5394447
I don't have PM2 on this machine, so I can't easily check. Although, I like the other anon's suggestion of "Milady" personally.

Remember this is a game, not a book. Don't make them talk like they're roleplaying or in a shakespear play

Fourthing "Milady".

>>5394392
I support it.

>>5394428
Milady works, but I wouldn't vote for it in this context.
Milady is more "distant" than young lady if you ask me, Cube is supposed to be close family (even if he carries the role of a servant).

>>5394413
This one's a bit tricky.
I don't support "Milady" as the default term, but I could see it work in this situation.
Milady is of course polite, yet waking her up is a bit more "rough" so "close" "friendly/family"-ish terms aren't neccesarily optimal.

Basically, waking her up isn't "casual talk" and thus a term such as milady would work better, in other more casual situations I would believe "young lady" is more suitable.

>>5394447
I think it was Mistress

>>5394497
Young Miss maybe?

>>5373352

w W Ｗ . ａ N O Ｎ t ａ L ｋ . ｓ e p roj hi l xrl cb mewf o sbqkqujreauvbbcccrldgehk ijf

Mistress is fine too.

>>5394484
Still, I think we should attempt to capture each character's personality. Cube is the butler. The manner in which he speaks to the girl and the PC reflect that.

>>5394489
Should I just leave the young lady/milady to the editors then?

>>5394497
Yeah, he called her mistress.
When she falls in combat while adventuring he says
"Oh no! Mistress, what have you gotten yourself into?"
I guess it works, but I am not sure how suitable it really is.
I don't know if he always calls her mistress, but if we assume they had consistent terminology throughout the thing then it's a possibility.

Mademoiselle

How about
>Young lady when she's a child
>Milady when she grows up

>>5393890
>Teacher as a job

Well, I know what I'm going to choose.

>>5394649
Yeahhh, let's try to keep this simple, alright? We can barely translate the thing to begin with, let's not try and get fancy with it just yet.

Milady/Mistress/Young Lady all sound fine to me. At worst, it can be mass edited at any time, no sense on going crazy about it. Make a poll once you have a more stable team.

Worked a little on eb010.txt as well. I'm finding it much more difficult than eb000.txt. You'll definately need to find someone who is more familiar with Japanese than I am, although I will keep slowly going through the files when I can. Where should I post these, if you even want me to post them at all?

>>5394931
Put it up on reTrans.

Kidding, just kidding.

I come back from work to see all this talking and progress.

You bring a happy tear to my eye 4chan.

Bump.

Just here to say that I am against an interface patch, or any partial patch for that matter.
Just look at what happened with the Princess Maker 4 translation.

Anyway, good luck to you all, I will continue to support you.

Thats fucking funny, cause i couldve sworn there was one of these for PM4 and it never finished. But hey, tlwiki always provides right?

>>5395042
They're already busy with Hatsukoi and Flyable Heart.

>>5396163
Nobody really wants this on retrans.

Also, bump.

>>5396152
I brought it up twice in this thread, they stalled because they couldn't find someone to hack the game for them.

>>5394173
Realized I never gave the "updated" page, so:
http://pastebin.com/RRAHgWnr
The translations I'm not 100% certain of are still commented out.

Also, I still have no idea how to translate line 71 on the pastebin page, if anyone would like to help me out.

>>5396392

Why the sage?

>>5397088
I didn't feel it was worth bumping the thread over.

>>5397399
You are so moe Anon.

>>5397399

Cute. But don't worry, contribution is always worth a bump.

eb010.txt
http://pastebin.com/8fgB0rLa

Again, there were several lines (more so this time) that I was not sure about. I made a comment with what I thought the line read, but left the original as the uncommented text. There's also one line that I was at a loss on (line 74). Like I said before, we really need someone who is more familiar with Japanese than I am, but I'll keep working on things here and there. I won't put any translation as the uncommented line unless I'm sure of it though.

>>5396392
Upload your pages to tlwiki.

Here, check this out: http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eb000.txt

When you want to upload new script, change eb000.txt in URL to something new and paste text there.

Also check this out: http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5%2Ftext%2Feb000.txt&diff=56453&ol
did=56451 -- this is the reason I think wiki is useful for these tasks. I made few changes and you can automatically see them. Put XXX into comments of lines you're not sure you translated correctly, this will make them easy to find, as opposed to your method.

>>5397732
Uploaded eb010.txt, but it's not recognizing any linebreaks. Any idea why?

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/eb010.txt

>>5397680
Anyone willing to upload the game to Megaupload or Mediafire for me? I'm on a satellite connection at the moment (and will be for the next two months or so), so I'm basically unable to torrent. I'd like to attempt inserting some of these before posting.

Can't find links for PM5 PC anywhere, only torrent.
I would upload it myself, but with my shitty connection it would take a while, it is a better job for someone with a good connection.
If nobody offers to upload it tomorrow, I will.

>>5398410
inpcube.txt uploaded.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/inpcube.txt

>>5398631
Also, with that, I'm going to sleep. Feel free to tell me how badly I've screwed up in the meantime.

>>5398645
Night Anon.

Doing a little bit of interface translation here.
What does these kanjis mean ? I don't even recall seeing them in the game to be honest.

>>5399196
ok, confirm

>>5399196
They say confirm

>>5399204
>>5399210
Waaaait, so this one meant "accept" ?

>>5399223
It says decision

>>5399279
Decide sounds bad, I'll just use Accept.

Damn how should I translate おつきあし, I suppose it means someone you know but you're not friends with, but how can I express it in one word ?

>>5400173
"acquaintance"?

Also this >>5396127
It would be really sad if this never gets fully translated.

>>5400216
>acquaintance
Yeah that's the word, I just couldn't recall it.

As for the whole interface translation, the game is really simple and playable throught atlas, really, personally I think the most vital thing here is translating the interface.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/pictures

>>5400266
I'm not so sure, for me anyway I could stop ATLAS from double-translating everything and always trying to unselect the game window constantly.

It's also unbelievably engrish to the point it hurts.

>>5400598
The focus and double sentences problem can be easily solved, as for the quality ATLAS remains just a support tool after all.

This is what I did so far if someone is interested, most likely wrong in some places and bad edited but better than nothing.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G4OAIW10

>>5400266
I know, it's how I played it. I used it together with a guide I got. A guide I just now remembered.
It has quite a lot of english in it and has translated map locations, and most of the interface.
I might help with that later as I should be able to copy paste it into the games rather easily. (and I could also check the translation to some degree)

But just as you say, it's what probably is most vital, or at least most vital to most people.
And that's actually exactly why I am not so sure I like it, if everyone are satisfied with a partial patch, then I really believe they/we all miss out on something rather great.

PM5 is great and it has the potential to be the first Princess Maker game properly translated into english since PM2.
But yeah, it would require people to be devoted and simply not let go of the project, and most of all a real translator, we don't have one yet and we need one.

>>5400266
>06:33
>>5401053
>09:53
Oh come on.
I know I dozed off between my reply but come on.
Well, I am shit tired. I will continue to support the project as a whole and I might even fix to have some of the simpler things translated, that and I could help with editing.
Good luck you all.

I hope this keeps up

>>5400266

I agree that only translating the interface will atleast make it easier to play the game. But the game would be a lot more enjoyable if there was an actual translation for the rest of the text. using Atlas would be shit. you'd only understand 20% of what their saying.

My daughter's first birthday, what do I give her...
A nice doll, little girls love those !
>... ありがと。
Well fuck... ah, a baseball bat !
>... ありがと。
Goddamnit ! Let's see if you like a shoujo manga.
>... ありがと。
ARGH I GIVE UP TAKE THIS... THIS... REFERENCE BOOK ON ECONOMY
>わああ！わああ！これ欲しいかったの！！
What the ?

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2001.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2201.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2401.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc4001.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/01.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/02.txt

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/03.txt

Lunch break is over, back to work.

>>5403029
Bitches love Economy.

Why not just email masat and ask him to do it? The Japanese seems easy and it's not like he has anything better to do.

>>5403311
go screw yourself masat

>>5403029
The hardest part about not English is this. It's tough to find out your daughter's hobbies when you can't tell what her actions mean - not all are very obvious.

For the longest time I didn't even KNOW if you mouse-overed her in her room, it would tell you what she's doing.

>>5403225
Still asking for someone to upload this to Megaupload or Mediafire for me..

Well, the most important parts to translate are, of course, whatever can't be translated by ATLAS. This way, even if the project dies after that, the game will still be playable.

>>5404661

What do you mean? Upload as a .txt?

lol @ using legacy file formats and tools

>>5404726
Err, no, see my post
>>5398410

I responded to that particular post because it was my last post in the thread.

>>5404879

Oh, I see. Well, I don't know if I still have the game. Gonna take a look at my dvds and search for it. If I find it, I try uploading it, unless I don't have time or something.

Ｗ w W . a N O n _ z _ Ｔ Ａ ｌ k . Ｓ Ｅ _ r e Ｍ Ｏ Ｖ Ｅ _ z x bgryl kqqcd cyfxkry bme ig bw

>>5404938
Okay, well, thank you for the effort either way!

>>5403225
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/04.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/05.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/06.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/07.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/18.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/19.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/20.txt

>>5405175
Mmm, it's too late today, but would you object if I made an account (so the changes are easily trackable) and made some light editing tomorrow? Not to the meaning itself, but to the stuff that sounds a tad awkward in English. For instance:

>The area is quiet, and appears to be empty of people...
Should be more like
>The area is quiet, and appears to be devoid of people...

>>5405304
shouldn't it just be empty? devoid of people sounds overly pretentious. Just say the place is empty and leave it at that.

>>5405318
That's a semantic change, you NEVER do that while editing for style. "Devoid of people" is a perfectly normal expression, and most importantly, keeps the meaning of being devoid of PEOPLE (人影もなく) as opposed to "empty", which is a generic term that can apply to anything from people to animals and objects.

>>5405304
Please, feel free.

If I may be so bold as to make a request, there were a few that I posted earlier (where your daughter meets some of her friends) that use "Yoroshiku". I put in a message for each but I couldn't really think of a great way to translate it. Considering it's a term that most people are /jp/ are familiar with, it would be great if you could think of a better way to phrase it.

I think it was:
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2001.txt

and

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2401.txt

Wanna sign up for translatin', where do I start?

>>5405379
Tomorrow, I'm going to sleep now. And I'll consult about any actual changes to translation here before doing anything, I'll only do edits for awkward style on my own, as I said.

>>5405377
>>5405304
Also, for what it's worth, I agree that "devoid of people" sounds a bit better. And I think I'm done posting new pages tonight, I was at work all day. I'll try to get some more up tomorrow.
(And remember: Anything with a #XXX comment means that I wasn't 100% sure on it, so anyone here who has greater knowledge of Japanese than I do, please check over it if possible)

>>5405400
Nobody has really "signed up". The few pages I've done I simply grabbed from the rar that was posted (http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/princess-maker-5-text-1.4.rar ) and then uploaded finished pages according to this post

>>5397732

making sure to keep the directory structure intact. Also, please feel free to come through the pages I've worked on (posted in this thread), as there have been multiple lines I was uncertain about.

>>5405451
>come through the pages

Should be "comb". Sorry, it's late.

>>5398537
No volunteers?
I have no problem with uploading it myself but it will take a while.

>>5397399
Shit, you made my heart skip a beat.

>>5406250
I'll upload it to rapidshare. It'll take around 6 hours at least with my speed.

>>5406664
How so?

Also,
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/23.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/24.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/25.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/26.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/28.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/35.txt

Some of these need some work, but I'm too tired to go back over them.

>>5398537
part1 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MSUKU3WX
part2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J3BH9CB0
part3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DR1FBA2Q
part4 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J6OBPO98

Some links I grabbed from googling a bit.

In before PM5 goes from casual Japanese to requiring a degree in English to read.

>>5406818
Great.

>>5406818
Thanks!

>>5406830
Yeah, it will definitely be too difficult for grade schoolers. Better pack your memes and move out.

You will never know how it feels like to be a suteki okaasan ;_;

>>5407286
;_; D'awww, I hardly understand much more than "Mother's day" but whatever I can read made me feel teary.

>>5407500
Mother's day...something (has arrived?)
Thank you for everything.
Can't read what's under. ;_;

>>5407500
It's a present for "Mother's day".
Mother, thank you for everything.
Please always stay an awesome mother ★

>>5407286
Fine by me. Can't marry my daughter as a mother.

Okay, I haven'c actually done much:

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Ephyon

Some comments as soon as I retype them. Fucking "Sorry part of your comment blah blah blah :(" bullshit amde me waste a whole page. What the fuck is that anyhow?

>>5407581
But you can't also go shopping for her bra or take a bath with her every single night!

>>5407872
oh despair! everytime my daughter reject my take bath with me pleadings

On Translation:

-Let's stop Vs Let's call it a day-

I like the second one better. Though if it's the catch-all "wandering time is up, go back home", I'd say "let's go home" sounds better.

-Yoroshiku-

I really don't think you'll get anything better than "Nice to meet you".

-Random crap-

1)http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sch/sc2201.txt
According to your notes and what I can make out, isn't 1af "You're learning to play the piano [[from mother]] too"?

2) Personal beef here, but I have a longstanding personal vendetta against the expression "can be seen" when it's used to say "something is there" and not actually talking about how something can be seen. For example, in 18b in 28.txt you have "the silhouette of a person can be seen in the terrace window", in which case it's okay since you are talking about seeing something, but when it's like in 371 in 20.txt ("Many students from the Shirasagi Academy can be seen."), it's less about seeing something (since it's an obvious presence) and more about just "[something] is here", for which English has the much more natural "there is/are" construction (E.g. There are many students from the Shirasagi Academy).

How about translators stop focussing on OMG NEW PROJECT and finally finish Imas SP and Love + translation first?

>>5407919
Don't worry, they'll run out of steam soon.

>>5407919
It's not like this will have any chance of finishing either.

>>5407919
Or maybe you should let them translate what they want. I'd hate to do translating for a "living", you'd get people who demand you translate some VN/game even if you want to translate another you like.

>>5407872
As long as her stats are right, I can still take a bath with her every night as a father.

>>5407919
It's not necessarily the same translators doing all 3 you know.

>>5408026
After a certain age, according to JP Wiki, taking a bath before bed makes her dislike you as a father.

There's not much a mother can do to make her daughter dislike her though.

>>5407904
Okay, I'll clean those up when I get back. Have to go to work now. Thanks for the feedback.

>>5408144
Well, the wiki I was reading says this:
父親：思春期以降、一度でも断られると最後までOKしてもらえない

* 一緒に寝る：関係60以上、繊細さ-31以下を保てば最後までOK？
o （30+ 繊細さ）%
o 親子関係60未満だと問答無用で断られる
* 一緒にお風呂に入る：最後まで入りたいなら、関係80以上、繊細さ-51以下を
保つ？
o （50+繊細さ）%
o 親子関係80未満だと問答無用で断られる

So has long as I have the relevant parameters in the right place, I don't think their should be a problem.

bump

>>5407904
Those should be fixed now, but please let me know if I overlooked any.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/freesun.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/file.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/99.txt

Might not get any more done today, I have some other things I need to get done.

>>5410830
Only comment I have is on file.txt, about line 172 353 (Cube's reply to skipping his explanation).

Since it's Cube speaking, I'd go with "Ah, so it is not needed." (not much change from yours, just scrapping the "no longer").

bump

>>5413070

I wish the daughter was a bit better looking. The facial expressions look kinda weird.

>>5414344

She looks better when she gets older.

>>5415351
>looks better when she gets older
That is absurd, Anon.

>>5414344
here, i gave a very small improvement on her keyAIDS.

>>5414344
the thing about her that bugs me really, is her hairstyle. The side things remind me of Aeon Flux.

>>5415976
In a new princess maker I hope they have the option for hair to grow longer or change to a different style.

bump

>>5415976
You are now thinking about Aeon Fluxes' puckered asshole.

Manually.

any progress on the interface trans?

>>5418712
Screw that one.
I am working on the dialogue.

Out of curiosity, how many kajillon of these text files are there?

Bump.

>>5419985
I think it was around 6mb in text alone.

War and Peace weights roughly 1mb. It is quite the daunting task.

>>5420783
See>>5392232

>>5420836
Ah, right you are.

Also, had to look this up on War and Peace.

>The Kindle edition is 1,500 pages and 2.092 MB.

Hmm. Quite big.

Finish translation of Musumaker first and not this piece of shit you morons.


Geez why is this board so fucking terrible?

>>5420883
>Finish translation of Musumaker
>PM a piece of shit

lol

>>5420883
I have been a fan of Princess Maker for over 10 years, sure Musumaker was cool, but really, I want Princess Maker translated thank you.

>>5418977
Out of curiousity, which files are you working on? I haven't seen any posted in the thread other than the ones I've been posting. I don't want to go over any you've already done.

Also, for what it's worth, I just finished a double-shift at work, but I'm going to try to get some more pages up tonight.

>>5420883 Finish translation of Musumaker first and not this piece of shit you morons.
Hahaha, oh wow.

>>5421838
In the mean time, enjoy some pictures of some inserted text.

>>5422564

>>5422580

>>5422626
Text looks a bit funky when it's spread across multiple lines.

>>5422670
Alright, here's a few more. They're all short, but it's better than nothing I suppose.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/56.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ode/65.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/es109.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ei240.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ei241.txt

Keeping this alive.

Up.

>>5422564-5422670

Awesome. Keep up the good work Anon, you are fantastic.

So...How many people are actually working on the translation?

somebody needs to make a documentation on how to properly dump/insert scripts

If somebody can put up translations for the images I'll start editing them.

>>5423222
Couple of things:

-In eb000.txt line 2a4 isn't translated.
-Same for 17a in eb010.txt
-I haven't touched it yet, but in es109.txt, I'm almost certain アシェット is either the french Assiette (Feminine noun, means dish or plate) or Hachette (Feminine noun, means hatchet. Also name of a famous bookstore). Does context give any hint as to which it is?
-I touched up inpcube.txt a bit, but they are still only minor phrasing tweaks (Occupations don't receive payment or do things, people with said occupation do).

Cube can actually tell if you chose a stupid name/surname? Seriously?

>>5427491
Allow me to insult your intelligence a bit: Do you have experience working with large batches of identical shit like these (see image)?

If you aren't careful to keep a template with all the positioning and formatting ready beforehand, you could waste a stupid amount of time trying to do things from scratch.

>>5427588
>In eb000.txt line 2a4 isn't translated.

>>5430007
Disregard this, I accidently hit submit.

>In eb000.txt line 2a4 isn't translated.
That is a continuation of the previous line, I just didn't split the entire sentence between the two. See >>5422670, it makes a line break whenever you switch lines, but it will word-wrap the text so long as it's the same line. We'll have to do something about that.

>-Same for 17a in eb010.txt
That's because I wasn't quite sure what it means, so I didn't want to touch it.

>-I haven't touched it yet, but in es109.txt, I'm almost certain アシェット is either the french Assiette (Feminine noun, means dish or plate) or Hachette (Feminine noun, means hatchet. Also name of a famous bookstore). Does context give any hint as to which it is?

Well, it's transliterated as "Ashetto" (which is what I left it), so going on the pronunciation, it's probably Hachette, but the script itself doesn't really say anything other than that he is returning to France.

>Cube can actually tell if you chose a stupid name/surname? Seriously?

It would seem so, although I don't know which particular names trigger the line. Would be interesting to find out.

>>5430149
For the record, I just selected "Omanko" as the character's name, and it illicited that response. So I guess we know.

Best thread of the week.

Maybe if you name her mean words.

Name her futanari and see what Cube says.

Also, I think a new thread is required.

>>5430194
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/useitem.txt
http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/sys/scdl.txt

Also, scdl seems to have most of the atrribute increases, but mysteriously lacks Stress as well as Charisma (which are both present on the atrribute screen in-game).
Anyways, two more scripts, another picture.

>>5431659
I agree with keeping the PM2 attribute names, they do the job just fine. No, "Musicanship" is not a word. Musical Talent would be the best bet, but if it's too long, just "Music" should do.

>>5430194
>>5431463
>>5431658
Makes me wonder if there's a way to keep this in translation... theoretically, there should be a list of words that the game checks against to see if it should return that response, it'd be just a matter of finding and editing it.

>>5431995
The best bet there would be to ask AoRF, since he made the tools for the extraction/insertion in the first place.

Speaking of which, I have some (possibly) bad news. First off, in quite a few of these scenes, the text is split between 2-3 seperate files, which is making things difficult when translating because half of the conversation is in a different file. Secondly, the extraction program may not be getting all of the files, or the insertion may not be working correctly. In the image I posted, that line is not from the same script as the rest of the text. In fact, that line does not even fully appear in any of the text files, but the second half only appears once in all of the text files. I've replaced the line and re-inserted the text, but it's still not showing up here as translated. The same happens with another line in another script file (not posted yet). It is the only occurence of "（うん？）”, but replacing it does not actually replace it in game. (Also noticed another place that it does this while typing this message). So, AoRF, if you're still around, please look into this. You can find the "（うん？）” example in ef016.txt, and the corresponding event should take place before the girl's first day of school.

I was going to post two more scripts, but since inserting the first one showed me that I'm missing about 50% of the conversation in another file, I'm going to wait until tomorrow to post it. In the mean time, here's the other one.

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=Princess_Maker_5/text/ee000.txt

>>5432776
Yeah, this is why I didn't want to upload scripts to wiki. I stripped down the criteria for choosing what to extract to something very simple, so this time I think I got it right. ee0000 got 1.5 as big. Grab text here and just replace files: http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/pm5/princess-maker-5-text-1.6.rar . In unlikely case you want to extract scripts with tools yourself, delete .first and info.mk files before running runme.bat to force tools to regenerate scripts. Text that doesn't have kanji/katakana/hiragana won't be extracted also.

Here are prohibited words:
おまんこ
おめこ
きんたま
ちんこ
ちんぽこ
ちんぽ
マンコ
オマンコ
オメコ
キンタマ
チンコ
チンポコ
チンポ

They are hardcoded into executable, so we can easily change them, although this won't help much since I still haven't figured out how to enable non-fullwidth character input.

... and what does きんたま mean?

>>5434007
Gold balls?

>>5434007
Slang for testicles.

>>5427478
But... anon... I have already written that.

>>5432776
That's what you get for using deprecated file formats and hacked-together tools.

Is there a rape scene in this game?

Is there a incest ending?

>>5434007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agate

>>5434037
No.
Yes.

>>5434011
>>5434014
Yeah, though so.

It just seems funny to that changing one consonant into another one very similar to it changes name of one popular anime I know into word people decided was too offensive to even allow it in their game as user input.

>>5434029
Oh oh oh here we go. Here's the hate. For your information, no deprecated file formats were using in making these tools and it's not like you have anything better.

>>5422670
comfirm

>>5434091
>gobs and gobs of disorganized text files
>couldn't even extract all the text with thirteen and a half million bytes of bloat

OH GOD IT FEELS LIKE I'M A SKIDDIE ALL OVER AGAIN

>>5434270
Hello. You are not making any sense.

Bump.

>>5427619
>Do you have experience working with large batches of identical shit like these (see image)?
Yes. I was image editor for Kara no Shoujo project.

>>5434007
Alright, thanks. I've got to head out to work for now, but I'll try to update everything that's been worked on so far when I get back.

>>5435582
I was mostly working on script files at the moment. I'll post some image TL's here and there, but I'm not going to focus on it for right now because I don't want this to turn into just an interface translation.

This reached the bump limit?
>>5435720
Sure, that's fine.

Took me a while to find it...
>296 posts and 24 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Yeah probably time for a new thread. Whoever makes it, link it back in here.

Okay, I made a new thread.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S5373355

in archive mode

bump

>>5437983
The last bump.

New thread
>>5438157