/jp/ - Otaku Culture

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

u all luv loli rite?

>>5327443
ya

>Over 100$ for a shit quality DVD with TWO episodes + bedsheet

>>5327453
And people wonder why no one wants to buy anime.

>>5327453
There's only two episodes so they can squeeze more DVDs out with dakimakura and charge $100 for it.

It's kinda sad that they have to stoop to this to get what little sales they do when it's not even the show's appeal.

But-but she's just 14 years old, why are they sexualizing her?

>>5327490
Because Japan.

>>5327453
I bought a DVD with one episode for $100 from Japan because it came with a dakimakura.

>>5327453
what a joke

>>5327490
You're right. They need younger characters.

>>5327510
You disturb me so much it keeps me up at nights.

>>5327453
If you think positively, it's
Do you love your waifu enough to buy her for $100?
the DVDs are merely extras that comes with your purchase

>>5327517
Why?

Are these dakimakura banned in the UK too?

>>5327510
There's Maria

>throw off the DVDs
>fap on bedsheet

I still haven't watched the anime yet, I doubt it is as bad as people make it out to be.

>>5327566
Go watch it then

>>5327566
It's not.

>>5327566
That's what I thought at first.

I was dead wrong.

>>5327566
Meh, it's bad but it's still alright if you know what i mean.
read the VN tho

>>5327566
No budget and 3 hours of reading compressed into 20 minutes of animation.
No, maybe 5 minutes of animation and 15 minutes of still images (aka key frames).

>>5327609
So basically it's like a SHAFT anime.

>>5327609
If they didn't compress it, it would have been hundreds of episodes long and impossible to watch without falling asleep.

>>5327620
If only.

>>5327637
Shaft anime are shit

>>5327654
no, your opinion is shit

>>5327674
I'm sorry you actually think japanese humor is funny, so very sorry.

>>5327629
compression != butchering

>>5327629
That's why a series of movies / OVAs would've been better than a TV show.

An episode has 20 net minutes (time to explain what happened in the last episode + to perform a cliff hanger for the next episode included).
The first arc = 4 episodes = 1h 20.
A 2h movie for each arc could possibly include the content of 6-7 episodes and has a well rounded start and end, no cliffhangers or advertisement pauses needed (=breaking glass).

>>5327690
Wow, what an accurate rebuttal. You may pat yourself in the back now.

>>5327459

That's actually really cheap. Dakimakura are usually 11000+yen ALONE, and DVD's are always released 2 episodes at a time for about 5-6000yen. Haruhi's Endless Eight was put on 4 DVD's.

Americans have it much better with around 5 episodes on 1 DVD for about 20 bucks.

>>5327720

It's actually closer to 18 if you throw in the OP and ED. Umineko has no recap and no next episode preview, though.

>>5327773
I don't really know how dvd players and video dvds work, but as a PC user, I can put 20+ episodes on one dvd (data) and achieve a quality on par with the original DVDs (and at least the PS3 can play those videos unlike a dvd player).
Why can't it be the same for commercial dvd videos?

>>5327720
This would never happen. Movies are expensive to make and harder to market. Even KnK was mostly composed of movies around 50 min in length, not 2 h. A series is the best you can hope for.

>>5327789
No. The Umineko episodes were 23 min, so 20 min of content is accurate.

>>5327815
Because they want every penny out of you. Its business, how hard is it to understand that? Of course a dirty pirate like you doesnt even know what running a business means.

>>5327837

I'm talking about most anime, since 3 min total for OP and ED, and then another 2 min for "previously" and "next episode." Umineko was one of the few that didn't have those two minutes taken away.

>>5327705
How would you have made it differently? They had to leave most of the stuff out and have only some of the scenes in due to time constraints. And there were a number of people who liked the anime without having read the VNs.

>>5327815

Because you're storing those DVD's as data and not as playback. If you look at most DVDR's it says that you get either 4GB or 120mins. 120mins is 6 episodes, and 4GB is about 20 or more if each episode is around 500MB. Most DVD's don't sell their stuff in the form of data, and they have fancy menus and other features on it that help it function better for a commercial audience. With your home made shit you're stuck with what's on there and can't change a damn thing about it.

It's good business and it helps the economy function. If everyone pirated and nobody bought, no one would make any money from entertainment and people would stop doing it. The anime industry has been going downhill even though shit's getting popular because of piracy. Nobody wants to buy shit, and it's been so bad that several companies have already had to shut down.

>>5327858

Some scenes were handled very badly and compression is no excuse for that. The biggest example of a good scene gone wrong is the final fight between Battler and Beato, especially the end with Beato asking Battler who she is. In the VN, you can see Battler starting to feel sympathetic towards her, but the anime has none of that.

Here's the thing: if the anime was as good as the separately-shown previews made it out to be, then we wouldn't have that problem. Watch the preview for Episode 26 and then the actual episode and tell me what's more moving.

>5327720

Agreed. OVAs would have worked a lot better.

>>5327868

Piracy is not the only reason why the industry is going downhill, it's likely not even a big reason.

>>5327868
It's not only about homemade pirated dvds.

A certain PC game magazine has 2 DVDs per release.
One is for dvd players and another is the same for PC.
They have the same videos and both use a menu (only the PC dvd includes the demos as well)

If they just made the dvd players into small computers that can play both videos and open any common file, we wouldn't need 2 different DVDs.

>>5327911

Disinterest in the medium is the main factor. Magazines are failing, but tankobon sales are petty static. Nobody's buying shit because nobody's watching shit. Piracy is a big reason in the US why things are going downhill, since people tend to be HERPADERP WHY PAY WHEN I CAN GET SOMETHING FOR FREE

I actually wanted to buy the Umineko games when I was out a few days ago, but I was a bit short on cash. Even though I already have them on my computer, I'd rather support the creators because it's what keeps the industry alive. Same thing with Touhou. I didn't buy any of the games, but I bought the two huge fanbooks that ZUN wrote...and I'm probably gonna get another book, too...most likely Cage in Lunatic Runagate or The Grimoire of Marisa.

>>5327457
Herp derp.
Derp herp.
Herpity derpity.

Fucking idiot,

Piracy isn't killing the industry, in all honesty they don't really need U.S. sales. Read this:

http://animealmanac.com/2008/08/27/are-we-just-gravy-the-importance-of-american-market-to-the-japane
se/

But buying stuff has its benefits both as a fan and a consumer. You can get a 50 episode series for 60 dollars. A little over a dollar an episode. The manga quality had VASTLY improved in both paper quality and translation. They've also stopped needlessly censoring anything. People are exaggerating things to excuse piracy. Its 11 dollars for a volume and 50 dollars for a decent box set, even a NEET can save that much money in a week by cutting out fast food and buying smart. There's absolutely no reason to pirate a series that's made its way unto American markets. I still pirate things that will never ever come to the states (Kodomo no Jikan) but whenever I see something I like and it's available in the US I buy.

>>5327930

Dub companies in the US were morons and basically shot themselves in the foot. ADV was a big offender in this regard, buying up series that were never going to sell even in a perfect piracy-free world at insane licencing costs. The whole model of business cannot work even if the bubble went on forever. The industry is undergoing an overdue correction imo; I mean really, there's a reason why the american movie industry avoids relying on DVD sales.

>>5327999

Yeah really though Japan has problems of it's own, mostly to do with the sapping of new talent from the industry due to the pathetic wage system.

>>5327999
You do realize there are a lot of people here who are not from US and who could care less for North American companies?
And that the feeling seems to be mutual, seeing the IP restrictions of most NA streaming services?

>>5327999

I'm going on with the fact that several licensors had to shut down and claim bankruptcy like Geneon Entertainment. They sold their stuff to Funimation, but thing is Funimation and Bandai Entertainment are now the only real dealers in anime these days. It's become sort of a monopoly.

>>5328036
Hell that only means you should buy more DVDs. Some overseas people should also buy anime/manga. Some countries have really strict bandwidth allowances so if I was in one of those countries I'd rather save bandwidth by buying anime.

>>5327432

http://tinyurl.com/2wzsgem f11157aa99e58a64618c38ad8c89f01a

>>5328076

It is normal for DVD sales of a TV show to pale in comparison to the amount of people who have watched it though other means, legal or illegal. Why should anime fans behave as an exception, and why should a middle man expect them to do so and (foolishly) base their business model around it?

It's already been established that an incredibly small amount of titles actually depend on overseas licencing to make bank so does the middle man really need such unnatural loyality?

>>5327999
I don't really see the argument here. First you say that localized sales don't matter, so there's no reason to buy, but then you say buying localized stuff is so cheap, so there's no reason to pirate.

What the hell should we do, then?

>>5328105
>It's already been established that an incredibly small amount of titles actually depend on overseas licencing to make bank so does the middle man really need such unnatural loyality?
You're completely right, the middle man is not needed so he doesn't have to be loyal.

But let us not be myopic here. There are laws currently being drafted and debated in congress that limit bandwidth. If the laws pass (it's not looking good at all) cable companies can charge MORE for high bandwidth users like us, making it impossible to download a lot of videos unless you're willing to dish out more money than you have to. Investing in the American Anime market means we have an alternative the moment online distribution becomes too expensive or restricted.

>>5328151

I assure you as someone from a country that is far more restricted bandwidth wise than the US will ever be that downloading will always be feasable and more economical than buying.

This is ignoring the idea that online distribution is about to decline. In this day and age with ipads and whatever over-marketed gadgets replace it.

>>5328138
The anime industry won't die if we don't buy. But buying has its benefits and isn't expensive so it won't hurt to purchase something.

Also>>5328151
This post shows why buying now would be beneficial in the future. If you invest in both forms of distribution (Hard copies that cost money and Soft copies that are free) if one crashes then you can revert to the other.

>>5328172
I'll take your word for it. But I'm a paranoid person so I'd rather keep both options open just in case one side explodes or the internet shuts down forever (which is so likely to happen I'm actually thinking it may happen in our life time.)