/jp/ - Otaku Culture

1 - Umineko
2 - Tsukihime
3 - F/SN
4 - Saya no Uta.
5- Ever17

1- OP's favorite VN
2- OP's second favorite VN
3- OP's Third favorite VN
4- OP's fourth favorite VN
5- OP's fith favorite VN

I'm I doing this right? I'm new to this horribly obvious trolling thing.

No one cares about your bad opinions.

1. Sharin no kuni (because of touka)
2. Cross channel (The story was so difficult to follow!!
3. Symphonic rain - LOL TWIST SO FUNNY LOL
4. Ever17 (see 3)
5. Kira Kira - Stupid drama with no character development.

1- OP's favorite VN
2- OP's second favorite VN
3- OP's third favorite VN
4- OP's fourth favorite VN
5- OP's fith favorite VN

Am I doing this right? I'm new to this horribly obvious trolling thing.

So you've only played 5 VNs then op? Maybe 6?

>>5322599
>trolling thing.
>He has a different opinion from me, he must be trolling XD

>>5322608

13-14, i really don't know if i should include things like PW or unknown VN for DS.

>>5322610
You can say FSN is bad, but calling it the worst VN is pretty hilarious. I understand OP is saying worst he has played, bu If one is going to make a list like this, one should have at least played a decent amount of VNs.

Also calling FSN horrible is one of the oldest trolls on /jp/.

>>5322610
lol u mad

butthurt troll.

1: FSN
2: CLANNAD
3: Cross Channel
4: Tsukihime
5: Umineko
Not trolling by the way, since everyone seems to think every post in here is a troll.

1.That one VN with the cat girl that lives in the orange box

Ruined my VN experience forever.

>>5322627
Actually switch CLANNAD and FSN.

1. Fate/stay night

That's about it.

>>5322577

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>>5322631
buttmad typemoon fanboy detected

1. CLANNAD
2. KANON
3. AIR
4. Little Busters
5. Planetarian

>>5322624

I really hate F/SN, it may not be the worst, but i really, really can't stand it.
That's my opinion, if you don't like, you are free to disagree.

>>5322627
>Not trolling by the way, since everyone seems to think every post in here is a troll.

Yeah, i shouldn't have included the list in the op

There's no reason to take this thread seriously, but might as well.

Wind -a breath of heart-, Hinata Bokko (also known as "Which Girl Should I Choose"), Da Capo, Planetarian, and OMGWTFOTL. In no particular order.

FSN
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Gore Screaming Show

They're shit.

>>5322578

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>>5322651
why so much caps lock? u mad?

See, this is why moot hates you guys. You're so fucking negative all the time. Even accounting for being on 4chan.

Anyway, I, for one, simply don't play bad VNs.

1-cross channel
1-tsukihime
3-Osadai
4-MLE
5-Kikougai

>>5322671
Well aren't you lucky. Can you tell us how to time travel to tell yourself which ones are good and bad? Seriously what kind of a stupid ass comment is that.

I'd have to say Fate/stay night.

Let's see:

1) F/SN.
2) Saya no Uta
3) Cross Channel

Those are the only VN i truly didn't like, for now.

>>5322671
Go back to whatever the fuck board you came from.

It's too hard if you count nukige, so I'll ignore those.

1. Wanko (it's a nukige but I'm including it because I'm still mad that I got trolled into playing it thinking it was anything more than that; it's not even good as a nukige)
2. Chaos;Head
3. Princess Waltz
4. Shuffle
5. Wind

1. F/SN Heaven's Feel Scenario.
2. Tsukihime Arc path
3. Cross Channel (All of it)
4. Kira Kira True End
5. The Sagara Family

>>5322704
ADHD fag detected.

I'm surprised to see CC so much.

1) yume miru kisuru
2) tsukihime
3) cross channel
4) tomoyo after (lol, delicious tomoyo though)
5) SPITAN

1. Amusement Park
2. Yo-Jin-Bo
3. Day of Love
4. Umineko no Naku Koro ni
5. Wind ~A Breath of Heart~

>>5322717
Some people didn't like it, for several reasons.

>>5322717
I liked Cross Channel a lot but I can understand why people wouldn't. A lot of people can't stand Taichi it seems.

>>5322717
I wish I could get past the first week.
Maybe it'd be interesting.

>>5322735
You repeat it with differencies.

>>5322717

I'm>>5322692

I liked some things, but the fanservice (Yeah, i know it's a part of Tenshi character, but too much pantsu jokes are ANNOYING) and repetitions killed it for me.
Also, none of the characters really impressed me, except maybe MikiMiki.

Still, i don't hate, it had a nice ost and some good moments.

Cross channe
That's the only VN that I just couldn't finish. I tried to like it but I couldn't.

When You goes "Whoah! Banana, banaaaaana!" I though she was actually a robot and I started freaking the fuck out. Just because it said right before that something like "You started malfunctioning".

I paused for a bit and thought about how it could make sense. About how the robot dog conversation was foreshadowing. It explained why Sara was so good with computers wihle also You's best friend.

This was actually the biggest mindfuck for me out of the whole story even though it wasn't true.

>>5322717

I'm>>5322692

I liked some things, but the fanservice (Yeah, i know it's a part of Tenshi character, but too much pantsu jokes are ANNOYING) and repetitions killed it for me.
Also, none of the characters really impressed me, except maybe MikiMiki.

Still, i don't hate it, it had a nice ost and some good moments.

Most of you have no business being in a thread like this. You've played maybe 10 VNs, none of which were particularly awful. You instead were just not enthralled in them for one reason or the other, or there was something about the story which mildly annoyed you, or in the worst case the fans of the series annoyed you. If you had any kind of objective mind you could see past these things and chalk it up to your personal perspective. But no, you can't do that.

Instead you all come into /jp/ with almost no VN experience and shit all over the walls with your diarrheatic spew. Clannad, FSN, Higurashi, Umineko, Ever 17, Tsuihime, KiraKira, Planetarian, none of these are bad. You don't know what a bad VN is. You don't know anything about the medium.

Stop wasting your time and mine with this crap.

>>5322618
What do you mean unknown, Time Hollow, Hotel Dusk, etc?

>>5322761

1. AIR
2. AIR
3. AIR
4. AIR
5. AIR
It's the only one I hate

>>5322773

Yeah, shit like that.

>>5322677

I generally read reviews and the like before deciding what to play, but quite often I see something and just "know" it's going to be good. Usually I'm right.

>>5322768

>>5322768
y u mad tho

>>5322773

Hotel Dusk isn't a VN. Time Hollow barely counts as one.

Seriously, has no one here ever played an adventure game before?

>>5322797
I only played Day of the Tentacle. These western games repel me.

>>5322768

No, FSN is a huge piece of shit for me, it's simply a bad story, a bad videogame, with a bad ost, with bad writing, with bad characters. It's not even about VN, it's just shit.

Deal with it.

The only VNs I've read are Umineko, Higurashi, and Saya no Uta

I loved all 3

What does /jp/ reccomend I read? No ero stuff though, Unless there's a gay route

I would make a new thread, but it seems like it'd be a waste so I'd rather ask here

>>5322797

Why wouldn't Time Hollow be a vn? Because it had minigames?

>>5322817

Ever17 now.
And you may also want to play Higurashi, but beware of the spoilers.

>>5322813

>>5322817
Togainu no Chi

Probably Fate/stay night.

>>5322843

YES, I'M FUCKING MAD BECAUSE I SPENT GOD KNOW MANY HOURS READING YOUR SHIT RIN.
ALSO, WHY YOU NEVER DIE, BITCH?

>>5322824

Because it has actual gameplay and the ability to wander places and find things. It's more of a VN than its spiritual prequel Shadow of Destiny, but... it's still pretty much an adventure game.

>>5322813
What am I supposed to deal with? Your complete lack of critical integrity? Yeah, I am dealing with it, don't worry.

>>5322768
CLANNAD is bad. Shut the fuck up. Terrible writing.

>>5322768
>If you had any kind of objective mind you could see past these things and chalk it up to your personal perspective. But no, you can't do that.
Please tell me what the objective criteria for judging the quality of a VN is. Funny how you tell people to not call things objectively bad (which most people in this thread aren't even doing, they just seem to be sharing their personal opinions) then pretend like your opinion is objective truth.

>>5322857
You could have stopped reading.

>>5322861

Yeah, go to read F/SN so you can claim it's the best VN because Saber is moe and Shirou is gar!!! XD

>>5322857

>>5322837
Thanks, Ever17 actually looks interesting, I'll give it a look
>>5322847
Had my eye on it, seems ok I guess, I'll wait for the translation to come out, they're at like 63 percent or something right?

>>5322871
There is an entire wing of academia dedicated to setting standards for writing, and studying to classics in an attempt to analyze what is good and bad. Furthermore, relativism is a cop-out for people who are not intelligent enough to discuss a subject that is partially subjective.
You can fuck off with that argument.

>>5322874

I would never drop a VN, no matter how much bad it is.

>>5322868
>CLANNAD is bad. Shut the fuck up. Terrible writing.
Compared to what? Why don't you list all the mesmerizing and amazing VNs you have played in comparison to Clannad.

I will not apologize for how ridiculous your statements are.

>>5322880
Well, I guess it's better than people who drop them just because they take too long to pick up or something.

>>5322868
>CLANNAD is bad. Shut the fuck up. Terrible writing.
Compared to what? Why don't you list all the mesmerizing and amazing VNs you have played in comparison to Clannad.

I will not apologize for how ridiculous your statements are.

>>5322895

Bad writing it's bad

Just because some people write even worse, it doesn't make Nasu or Clannadshit writing good, or even decent.

Reading Remember11 at the moment and hating every second of it.
The characters are just retarded. At least in Ever17 I thought: "They are just kids, it's "normal" if they are stupid".

>>5322895
>Compared to what?
Basically every other VN listed here. CLANNAD uses cheap and rehashed tricks to force you to elicit certain emotions. Jun Maeda keeps doing this shit over and over.
For people who enjoy crying in spite of bad writing I suppose it's fine. But for people who can't look past terrible story telling it's not.

>>5322911
>The characters are just retarded. At least in Ever17 I thought: "They are just kids, it's "normal" if they are stupid".

How are they retarded exactly?

>>5322879

Thank you.

>>5322879
Ok, but you still haven't explained what constitutes those objective standards, or how the VNs you listed as objectively good meet them.

Also objective quality is for elitist intellectuals who feel the need to believe that their opinions are somehow inherently correct and above those of other people.

None of you know what a truly bad VN is until you've played Evangelion's Girlfriend of Steel 2 spin-off. Christ, that was unbearable.

>>5322577

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>>5322929
No, you know what ignore the completely logical statements you quoted. You're right, we shouldn't be saying that any VN is bad or good. EVERY SINGLE VN CANNOT BE RATED YOU GUYS. Don't even say that this or that VN had good characters or a decent plot.

>>5322871
>Please tell me what the objective criteria for judging the quality of a VN is. Funny how you tell people to not call things objectively bad (which most people in this thread aren't even doing, they just seem to be sharing their personal opinions) then pretend like your opinion is objective truth.

Is the story Coherent (does it have plot holes, is it intelligible, does it go anywhere)

Is the art work good (is it varied, what is the quality like, does it represent what's going on decently)

Is the sound good (Does the music reflect the mood, Is there enough of it so its not repetitive)

Is the interface good (Is it easy to navigate, does it fit the game, is it appealing)

>>5322964
but this or that vn had a good plot

Familiar of Zero is the only one that sucks,

>>5322576

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>>5322929
>Also objective quality is for elitist intellectuals who feel the need to believe that their opinions are somehow inherently correct and above those of other people.

That's laughable. It's the complete opposite. Have you ever sat down and thought why so many people like an appreciate what you vomit over so vehemently? What is you're conclusion, they're idiots? They have bad taste? Pathetic.

No, it's you who is the problem. It's you who are unable to use your intelligence and figure this out.

Let's have a discussion right now. Let's stop hiding behind your paper thing opinion and talk about this. The onus is on you to prove why you think something is bad.

Go ahead, convince everyone how horrible their favorite titles are. Go ahead and use comparison and critical analysis. Why don't you just hilight for everyone what an amazing VN should be and prove your opinion.

I don't think you can. I don't think you're within a mile of being able to do so. I don't think you have the background experience or the ability.

Every VN that didn't have practically thousands of threads dedicated to them.

>>5322578

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Goddammit, why did you have to make this thread, OP? Was it not obvious it's going to end up full of rage?

>>5323078
Because he likes to destroy what other people love.

>>5323080
>>5323048
Seriously though what kind of spam is this?

>>5323082
It's the spambot going Yandere

>>5323046
>hilight

>>5323078
It's an obvious trolling thread. Based on how many replies it generated in a short time period (compared to the "list the 5 best VNs you read" thread), it's clearly quite successful.

>>5323115
Yes, there were quite a few misspellings in that post. I was too angry to do a once over.

>>5323046
>The onus is on you to prove why you think something is bad.
>Go ahead, convince everyone how horrible their favorite titles are. Go ahead and use comparison and critical analysis. Why don't you just hilight for everyone what an amazing VN should be and prove your opinion.
Why are you telling him that? I thought he was the one that is saying you can't prove something is bad.

>>5323141
The entire thread's topic is on calling things bad.

He's saying he can call anything bad he wishes and anyone who tries to objectively rate things is full of shit.

I'm saying he's critically dishonest, and if he wants to call something bad he better back it up.

Any hetero ones. Yaoi VNs only.

>>5323161

Again, thank you. A lot of people don't believe in the objective quality of art and I think you're brave for even bringing it up in a thread like this.

>>5323254
Actually it was two different people. I know because I was the other one you thanked.

>>5322579
#1- Shiofuki Jigoku
#2- Little Match Girl
#3- Strange Situation volume 1
#4- Wrist Cut
#5- Eien to Natta Rusuban

1. AIR
2. Kanon
3. Umineko no naku koro ni
4. Gore Screaming Show
5. Mai HIME

>>5322926
Sorry. Got a little engrossed reading Remember 11(It's still shit though)
Day 2 goes like this: "To my other self I wanna be sure that you exist. Please write in this notepad as a way to comunicate between us and prove that we are not crazy. Then the protagonist proceeds to think 2-3 mins of what to write(thinks of a few good theories of what is actually happening).. I KNOW I'LL DRAW A BUNNY!! CAUSE YOU KNOW AM I A GIRL AND I HAVE TO PROVE IT WITH SOMETHING CUTE
And thats only Day 2, shit gets even more retarded.

So OP admits he's only played 10 VNs.

>>5323469

It made sense in the contest

Also, Kokoro is kind of a klutz

Your 'worst 5 VNs' list is pretty meaningless if you've played less than a hundred or so

1: Subarashiki Hibi
2: Steins;Gate
3: Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO
4: Muv-luv Alternative
5: Ikusa Megami Verita

god these games were shit

>>5323543
To do list: Troll (check)

>>5323503
It did not. It was just completely dumb like most of her fits.
Isn't she studying sociology? she can't even deal with a kid nor act like a mature person.
It completely ruins the atmosfere when she breakdowns 5 times for the same shit.

Fate/Stay Night - Too much boring explanation
Cross Channel - Main character was a perv bastard
Phoenix Wright 2 - Getting whipped in court is ridiculous
Tsukihime - Whole game was basically "ouch my eyes!"
Yume Miru Kusuri - Sex romp entry level VN

>>5323254

I dont believe art is objective however I do share the sentiment with others in this thread that criticism has to be backed up.

Da Capo and Clannad are the only VNs I have played that I did not finish, they are just so fucking boring.

1. Sekien no Ignacock (No. I have not played this and I never intend to my hate is too strong for this one)
2. FSN (I was able to stand Nasu writing in Tsukihime but this was taking Nasu writing AND FUCKING EXPANDING IT EVEN MORE. Don't get me wrong I loved Tsukihime and DDD but I absolutely fucking HATE KnK [Besides Mirai Fukuin which was written using Nasu's DDD writing style] and FSN. Hell I can clearly state PRINCESS WALTZ > FSN. The only thing bad with Princess Waltz was the character degradation between Part I and Part II (after the fake Bad End)
3. Wanko
4: Air
5. Kirakira

Since Umineko isn't a VN (its a Sound Novel) I have to say I would've put it between 2 and 3 if I could.

1. Parfait (lol if I wanted to run a cafe I'd do it IRL)
2. Suigetsu (pissing scenes, yeah that's real mature, what are these girls 6?)
3. Saihate no Ima (doesn't even explain half the shit that happened in the heroine routes, also what's the deal with the main heroine not even really existing)
4. Triangle Heart 3 (yes thank you game i like having to pick an option for every single thing I do, it really adds to the interactivity. yes, I am about to have sex with a girl so I think I'll masturbate first. not like it even matters. fucking shitty game)
5. YU-NO (if I wanted a point-and-click adventure I'd play something good, like the King's Quest games)

>>5323657
Too bad yu-no blows King's Quest out of the water.