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Evershit: Sucks to infinity.

>>5311710
Is it really bad, or are you just angry because it didn't gave sex?

>asked my friend about non HGame Visual Novels.
Eien no Aselia too.

Yes.

Ever17 is great, the pacing's pretty whack at times though.

It is one of the best visual novels that is in english.

yes, it is great.

I never got why it was called Ever17, though I never finished the True Ending.

Is it because of Tsugumi's illness?

>>5311721
That guy is just an idiot, pay no heed to him.

>>5311761
>never finished the True Ending.

What the fuck. The game without coco's route is a boring piece of shit, why would you even play it.

>>5311779
Hey, I only didn't finish it because my computer was a piece of shit and didn't let me pick any choices after I finished Tsugumi's Good End.

Makes me cry everytime. Everytime...

I learned how to play Karma on the piano.

If you want an all-ages VN, go with Symphonic Rain. Great stuff.

>>5311808

What's the problem with Ever17? Both it and SR are excellent and are well worth reading.

Ever17 is too popular for us to say it's amazing. It's pretty good though.

Are Never7 and Remember11 as good as this?

>>5311828
Nothing really, except for the first routes being somehow weak and relying too much in the great final route. I just meant that SR was better, so if he wanted something without ero I'd give SR a try first.

>>5311692

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>>5311868
R11 is pretty cool, if not as good as E17. Havene't played N7 yet since there's no translation, but I've heard from people who read all of them that it's supposed to be the worst.

Yes

>>5311868
Personally I like Remember11 better than E17. The story is simply far more engaging overall and the midgame is far superior to some of E17s relatively shitty routes.

>friend
>she

It's pretty good. It should take up a week or so of your summer vacation.

>>5311870

The first routes were only relatively weak to the final route (since it's just damn good), they're a lot better than SR's first parts in my opinion.

>>5311742
>It is one of the best visual novels that is in engrish.
Fixed that for you.

Not woth the money

>>5311992
>implying I'm a summerfag just because I've been friendzoned.

>>5312018
>>implying
You're not trying to hide it either, are you?

I prefer Ever17, i didn't like the lack of focus on the "villains" motives and "not-ending", even if it does make sense in the contest in R11

>>5311694

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The second best VN ever after F/SN.

>>5311997
I never liked E17's slice of life so the first routes weren't that enjoyable for me. Also, Sora's route was just painful to read, something that didn't happen to me in SR. However, I remember forgetting about all its flaws (except the deus-ex-machina, maybe) when I got to Coco's route, so I'd still say it's a really good game.

Just finished Coco's route yesterday, if you're going to read ever17 I suggest reading the routes in this order: You, Sara, Sora, Tsugumi, Coco for the best mindfuck imo

>>5312052
I prefer a non-ending that the bullshit Coco's route spilled all over the game.
Hi I'm a fucking plot devince that doesn't make sense whatsoever and can create a perfect time paradox, nice to meet you, I'm Blick Winkel

>>5312109
>You will now realize that They were trying to summon BW in R11 too

Also, Stable time loop is a common device in anime, manga, vn and videogames, live with it

It's kind of boring, but if you get into it, you're into it and you'll more than likely enjoy it.

>>5312141
I know that, but that doesn't leave that E17 is just awful for that horrible, horrible end.
Also, I'd have prefered moe if Hokuto would have just trascended dimensions insetad of pulling the BW shit. R11 fails at it, which makes it better to understand how was the loop created in the first time.

All the spoiler bars I'm seeing scare me, I'm still not done playing the game! I've heard the ending will make me shat bricks

OP, don't play E17 unless you plan on committing to it, this game takes commitment! Shit's long!

>>5312106
I already started Tsugumi's.
Now I'm restarting.

>>5311692

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>>5312206
Don't do that just because some random faggot on the internet tells you to. Actually I'd suggest starting with Tsugumi's route myself, since it's the best one of the first 4 in my opinion.

>>5312219
Or rather, You's route is rather boring and you probably won't understand shit if you read it first, it might actually make you want to drop the game.

>>5312206
I did Tsugumi's first, and really enjoyed it

Tsugumi is the best girl, and so it makes you want more

>>5312219

Tsugumi's route is the worst route to start with. The mystery surrounding the visions about Tsugumi getting injured will no longer be a mystery when reading the Kid's routes, also the character of Coco and Kid's visions of her will be less of a mystery.

>>5312241
>which makes it better to understand how was the loop created in the first time.

that why i loved You's route, you have no idea and more you play more the story unfold itself and all the shit you saw with you will make sense.

>>5311870
But Clannad is the best all-ages VN. Second is Higurashi. That doesn't mean he needs to play them first.

>>5312241
>You's route is rather boring and you probably won't understand shit if you read it first

that's why i loved You's route, you have no idea and more you play more the story unfold itself and all the shit you saw with you will make sense.

>>5312274
>Clannad is the best all-ages VN
So now our arguments just consist of the most absurd things we can think of?

>>5312274
>Higurashi
>All ages.

...Uh.

>>5312274
>Higurashi
>Best at anything
Let's forgive art, music and plot for every other VN out then

>>5312283
MangaGamers agreed, don't bother them about it.

>>5311695

I dug it, OP, but it is a loooooong, freaking game. Still, definitely worth playing.

>>5311692

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I played You's route first, it took my friend forever to convince me to play anymore. You's route was terribad, at least terrible to start out on. I recommend Tsugumi's or Sora's, they're pretty interesting.

>>5312278
Clannad being the best is far from absurd though.
Personally:

1-Clannad
2-SR
3-Ever17
4-Higurashi
5-Eien no Aselia

They are all very good though.

>>5312287

Not him, but

>Let's forgive art,

Shit, ok

>music
Decent in Ni, Very good in Kai

>plot

It has its problems (also, the anime didn't help), but it's good. Also, Higurashi strong point are the characters, in which succeeded.

Higurashi has problems, but it's overall a very good novel.

>>5312314
>Decent in Ni, Very good in Kai
No, you could say that from Umineko but the music is average/bad in ni, good in kai, never very good, at all, not even Dai's tracks can save free internet music from being bad.
>It has its problems (also, the anime didn't help), but it's good
The completely retarded solution is retarded, redundancy intended

>>5312314
Is it just me, or does Ryukushi's artwork kind of kill the horror feel of the overall game?
I mean, I find it hard to take someone getting brutally kacked to pieces when something that looks so silly is doing the hacking.

>>5312278
My argument was just that he doesn't need to start with the best (or what people tell him is the best, which has it's own problems that should be obvious) and can go with Ever17 since that's the one he's asking about and that his friend recommended.

Am I the only one that found Coco not annoying, but found Sora goddamn fucking annoying?

>>5312348
Agree on the sprites. The backgrounds can actually add to it though. That being said, I read it using ps2 backgrounds too, but still, the original backgrounds are kinda nice too.

>>5312356
Nin nin

>>5311692

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>>5312356
I found You rather annoying...

>>5312356
Wouldn't say I found her annoying, but I liked her least.
That being said, I actually liked all the characters at least a bit, Coco was fun. Oh wait, scratch that, I actually hate Hokuto.

>>5312389
I liked all the character a little too, even Sora had her moments

>>5312348
Higurashi isn't even horror after the first two chapters so it's not a big deal. And as someone who played the first with the original sprites and the second with the PS2 sprites I didn't notice a difference as far as atmosphere.

>>5312356
you are not the only one
btw coco's route is great, play it

>>5312356

What the hell man, I usually hate energetic lolis and I loved Coco, but Sora is love, I found the dialogues with her to be very pleasant and her voice to be relaxing, I guess people consider that to be boring. Also, I honestly don't see why so many people thought her route was the worst.

Get Crimsoness and OMGWTFBBQ

>>5312414
>see why so many people thought her route was the worst.

Because nothing happened and her path and she had nothing to say

Also, Tsugumi is a far better love interest.

>>5311691

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>>5312445
Sora's route was cute, best experienced after Tsugumi's route, I think.

Anyone gotten the Tsugumi/ Sora bad ending? Shit's sad, man

>>5311691

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>>5312471
It's the only ending I did not get. Care to spoil it for me?

>>5312502
No, go watch it on youtube. It made shed bitch tears!

>>5312445

Nothing happened in her path? Come on, Takeshi gets 'raped' by Tsugumi, Sora goes yandere and the ending was just as emotional as Tsugumi's I'd say that's pretty damn eventful and memorable, I honestly can't remember any significant Tsugumi specific event happening in Tsugumi's route aside from the last minutes. I also liked Sora's ignorance and interest in human emotions and her coming to terms with her feelings for Takeshi and the conflict with her self, or should I say programming. Also, Tsugumi, a better love interest? She's just tsun tsun the rest of the route then suddenly goes dere dere towards the end. I'm not saying she's a worse character, it's just that her romance with Takeshi isn't all that interesting.

ever 17 is fucking terrible

>>5312502
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjABf2dvhY

>>5312546

you're dumb

>>5312579
Fuck, I didn't expect it to be that sad.

>>5312546
>You will now realize half of the things you said had no impact whatsoever on the plot and that Sora is a boring and shitty character.

I never got the bad endings for You and Sara. I was too afraid of crying ;_;

>>5312579

I just realize a plot hole How did Coco and Takeshi survive to the Lemuh implosion? They should have been buried under the debris or discovered when they were going to clean the ocean

not just get can

>>5312832

Well, that's just like your opinion, man.

>>5311694

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>>5312846
They didn't.

>>5312846
IBF, high pressure protection, etc. Also Blick Winkel did it.

>>5312894

Yes, they did, they survived 17 years there

>>5312846
You're genius, man. Continue thinking and you'll realize dozens of other holes and stupidities.