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5275717 No.5275717 [Reply] [Original]

If Berserker is the strongest Servant, then why does he lose all the time?

>> No.5275725

that made me buttmad

>> No.5275726

He's the strongest, but he loses to the good guys because they make up tactics and plothax and shit.

That happens all the time in fiction.

>> No.5275728

Probably because he isn't the strongest servant.

Or plothax.

>> No.5275729

Because Shiki can kill Servants.

>> No.5275731

Because Nasu

>> No.5275732
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5275732

Perspective.

Berserker is the strongest servant for the first part of the story because Shirou doesn't know of and cannot imagine a stronger one.

>> No.5275733

If Lancer can pierce the heart of anyone and never miss, then how come he always lose?

>> No.5275739

>>5275733
>never miss

More like never hit.

>> No.5275758

>>5275733
236236+A is too hard for him execute.

>> No.5275765
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5275765

>If Big Show is the strongest wrestler, then why does he lose all the time?

Because having the strongest characters job to weaker ones puts them over as "improving" or being very tactful. One of the oldest tricks in the book. No, literally, in the Bible, Goliath jobs to David so later on in life he becomes king. It's just the way it is.

>> No.5275766

Why is Rider so shitty? ;_;

>> No.5275769
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5275769

If Cirno is the strongest Touhou, then why does she lose all the time?

>> No.5275770

>>5275766
Because you touch yourself at night while thinking of Avenger.

>> No.5275772

>>5275770
Are you mad?

>> No.5275778

Nerds always win because that's who the nerds that read and watch relate too, badass fuckers like berserker always lose for this reason.

>> No.5275781

Because tactics > raw strength

>> No.5275784

He did not know Aikido.

>> No.5275788

>>5275781
This too.

>> No.5275790

Get over fsn finally for fuck's sake.

>> No.5275794
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>>5275778
>Caster is the weakest Servant.

>> No.5275795

>>5275769
Because she's delusional. She's DESTINED to be the strongest, but right now, she's a Level 2. When she hits Level 5, instantaneous blizzards over one square mile and time stopping will be achieved, and then she'll be unstoppable.

>> No.5275807

>>5275794
Serves her right for being a bitch.

>> No.5275811

Best Waifu: Sakura
Best Servant: Lancer
Best Character: Caster

>> No.5275817

>>5275795
She's DESTINED to be in a shitty game and to be a shitty character.

>> No.5275819

>>5275811
>Best Waifu: Sakura
Better wear a condom.

>> No.5275822

>>5275811
Did the mud from Angra Mainyu eat your brain?

>> No.5275825
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>>5275811
>Best Waifu: Sakura

>> No.5275830

>>5275825
>>5275822
>>5275819
>SAKURA IS A SLUT EPIC MEME GUYZ XD!!
Go back to /a/ with that shitty meme.

>> No.5275834

>>5275830
People post their opinions which contradict yours. Ergo, they are meme spouting faggots.

Interesting perspective.

>> No.5275836

>>5275830
Who the fuck said Sakura is a slut? Are you a bit too sensitive, newfriend? She is just subpar to all of the other characters in the female casts.

>> No.5275837

>>5275830
I don't think it has to do with it.

She just isn't.

>> No.5275839
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5275839

Because of this

>> No.5275843

>>5275839
BUT THOU MUST

>> No.5275848

>>5275836
>subpar
In what way? She is clearly the least slutty. She knew the main character for over a year spending every day with him before having sex. And she only had sex because she was forced those urges.
The other two retards had freaky 3 way sex after only talking to him for a week.
Also she is clearly the best waifu as well.
Best cook, most cheerful while putting up with the most shit, most loving, etc.
Basically your disdain for her comes from the shitty /a/ meme.

>> No.5275858

>>5275848
>In what way? She is clearly the least slutty.
Sluttiness determines a character's quality? Amazing.

>> No.5275859

>>5275858
It's one of the attributes that determine quality. If you don't think so fuck off to /r9k/.

>> No.5275879

>>5275848
You forgot self-loathing and endless whining.

>> No.5275886

>>5275879
I don't recall her whining to anyone. Screenshot or it didn't happen.

>> No.5275909

>>5275886
Too lazy to make screenshots, but
>hurr why is nee-san this, why is nee-san that
>why am I the only unhappy one
>that's right I must take revenge

>> No.5275913

>>5275909
That was after she was corrupted, that's like saying she's a bad character because she kills people.

>> No.5275935

>>5275913

Yet with all consciousness.

>> No.5275952

I alway thought it was because he wasn't a proper historical/mythological figure.

>> No.5275953

>>5275935
Shut your mouth Shinji, its YOUR fault to begin with, you dirty pervert.

>> No.5275954

>>5275913
She is never corrupted to begin with. She always holds grudges against Rin. She only used the corruption of Angra Mainyu to pretend that she snapped. Kotomine and even herself confirmed that she is always the same Matou Sakura through out the HF arc.

>> No.5275958

>>5275954
>always the same Matou Sakura
Taken out of context.

>> No.5275959

Looking pretty IN-DEE-STRUCTIBLE there Berserker.

>> No.5275965
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>>5275952
wat

>> No.5275978

PRO TIP:

Berserker(Hercules) is the guy in the Cool Story Bro macro.


In b4 cool story bro

>> No.5275986

>>5275978
r u srs, Arc
i always thought it was an american gladiator

>> No.5275995

The same reason that Gigglemesh loses all the time:

being physically strong doesn't mean you can ignore tactics, and strength is weaker than cunning when applied without intelligence.

Unless you're the almighty god of destruction. Then you just annihilate everything all at once.

Let's see you dodge that.

>> No.5276001

>>5275986

NO BRO

It's Hercules.

>> No.5276021

>>5276001
Heracles is the better name.

>> No.5276026

Well, I'm behind. I just thought that Berserker was just a pastiche of war deities.

Even still, there are at least two Servents that I can think of that could wipe the floor with Herc, based on whom they themselves are based upon.

>> No.5276050

>>5276021
heracles sounds like a girl's name yo

>> No.5276075

>>5276050
Heracles is a greek hero, so it only makes sense that the greek name is used.

And, in all case it sounds like a philosopher's name. Hercules reminds me too much of the disney version.

>> No.5276077

>>5276075
what's wrong with the disney version man, he was cool

>> No.5276082

>>5276077
Yeah, but he certainly wasn't >>5275965

>> No.5276088

>>5276077

The disney version was awesome.

Black muses? Fucking awesome wisecracking Hades? SHIT YEAH.

Probably one of the rare few Disney movies I like.

>> No.5276089

>>5276001
Heracles is the original Greek name. Hercules is the Roman name.
Roman's were all a bunch Greekaboos visiting Greece and coming back with "original myth do not steal!".

>> No.5276091

>>5276082
i guess you're right ;_;

>> No.5276100

>>5276050
Heracles sounds like the name of a serial killer.

OH WAIT.

>> No.5276108

>>5276089
"The Aeneid is TOTALLY original and it's absolutely not a Odyssey ripoff!"

>> No.5276112

>>5276050
He was named after Hera to keep her from wanting to kill him as hard.

Unfortunately, Hera hated him more than anybody else.

>> No.5276122

>>5276108
The Aeneid really happened Rome was founded by Trojan master race.

>> No.5276125
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>>5276050
Say that to my face bitch, not online, see what happens.

>> No.5276127

>>5276122
Then why'd they lose to the Greeks so bad?

>> No.5276134

>>5276122
>suggesting any of the myths about the fundation of rome are true

>> No.5276146

>>5276127
Because walls are useless when the enemy gets inside your city.

>> No.5276169

>>5276127
Because the Gods wanted Aeneas to go to Latium so his sons could found the Roman Empire!

>>5276134
Of course!

>> No.5276170

>>5276112
does that mean hera's roman name is hercu

>> No.5276177

>>5276170
No, the Roman version was Juno.

>> No.5276180

>>5276169
The same gods whom the Trojons spat in the face of?

I doubt this. Naked wolf babies makes more sense.

>> No.5276182

>>5276180
Not the lousy Greek gods but the Trojan-Roman superior ones!

>> No.5276188

>If Lancer can pierce the heart of anyone and never miss, then how come he always lose?

Because Kotomine never has him go all out against anyone. Every fight except against Archer in UBW and Gil in Fate is him fighting to a stalemate because Kotomine wants to assess the abilities of the other masters.

Lancer only ties with Archer in UBW due to Rho Aias and he gets own'd by Gil because.....well, he's Gil.

>> No.5276199

>>5275717
Actualy the Strongest can refer to a person with superior brute strength only. If you have magical Hax powers, you cant called the strongest because you dont have the sheer strength of a thousand beast, you only have a, the correct term for that, Powerful ability

>> No.5276200

>>5276170
No, just that the Romans didn't think things through when they started romanizing the names.

>> No.5276212

>>5276182
Ah yes; the 4Kids versions of the Greek gods.

>> No.5276223

>>5276212
>Butthurt Greco-Sicilian American.

>> No.5276228
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>>5275811
Best Waifu: Caster
Best Servant: Caster
Best Character: Caster

Fixed that for you

>> No.5276238

>>5276228
Fuck yeah, Caster Tier Power Ranking!

>> No.5276249
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5276249

Because Fate/Stay Night is shit. worst nasu's work. DEAL WITH IT.
There is only one good character
Pic Related.

>> No.5276263

>>5276228
Caster is the team rocket of FSN.

>> No.5276269

>>5276249
>Shitgameshit
>Good character
Shit tier poster, what happened to your trip?

>> No.5276273

>>5276269
It's possible for good characters to be stuck in shit games/series/whatever.

>> No.5276281
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>>5276249
How does it feel being defeated by women and children?

>> No.5276285

>>5276263
So is Fake Assassin James or Meowth?

>> No.5276292

>>5276281
The same as Shirou defeating Saber.

>> No.5276300

>>5276212
Lol'd at this because it's true.

>> No.5276301

>>5276285
Souichirou is James

Meowth is Fake Assassin

>> No.5276347
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>>5276301
I suppose Saber is Pikachu then

>> No.5276358

>>5276347
Makes sense with the whole EX CALI BUUUUR thing being the same as the sound pikachu does.

>> No.5276373

>>5276347
Wait...Team Rocket wanted to molest Pikachu?
That....makes a sickening amount of sense.

>> No.5276378

The problem is with the definition of 'strongest'. People assume that "strongest" means "best", but it doesn't. Strongest means he's the best in physical strength, which I don't think is inaccurate. But the best? No, not particularly. After all, there is agility, quick thinking, charisma, magical power, and all that to take into account.

>> No.5276399

>>5276378
You forgot the most important thing, plot armor.

>> No.5276405

>>5276399
Go back to /a/.

>> No.5276410

>>5276358
can unhear...

>> No.5276433

Are you implying that Fate/Stay in the kitchen isn't full of plot armor/holes and that nasu finally created a good work?

>> No.5276440

>>5276433
Go back to /a/

>> No.5276459

If you say that FSN is about cooking then you don't know shit about VNs.

>> No.5276467

>>5276459
Say the guy who only played FSN and YMK

>> No.5276475

>>5276467
Unlike you, i actually read books.

>> No.5276476

>>5276467
Apparently he also watches(or reads?) the Index series.

>> No.5276508

>>5276459
you're right, i'm sorry. its about fights... Oh wait, there is no fights in this!

>> No.5276698

>>5276508
I know you're trying to be witty, but you just come off as incredibly stupid.

>> No.5276717

>>5276698
Tell me one fight that don't ended with moralfaggotry and plot armor.

>> No.5276741

>>5276717
Assassin vs. Saber

>> No.5276760

>>5276717
That's not what you claimed. You said that there were no fights in FSN. And using the term "moralfaggotry" makes your posts even more retarded than your bad grammar does.

Saber vs Rider
Kotomine vs T.Assassin
Shirou&Rider vs Saber Alter
Shirou vs Archer (unless this counts as "moralfaggotry")
Rin vs Caster
Souichirou vs Saber
Gil vs Berserker
Shirou vs Shinji
etc.

>> No.5276772

>>5276741
Bended sword that is the only thing that save Saber, that's plot armor

>> No.5276791

>>5276717
What on earth does moralfaggotry have to do with anything?

>> No.5276795
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5276795

oh /jp/ you're so funny

>> No.5276800

Is there any VN with fights that don't have any plot armor bullshit?
Too bad action VNs are very rare in english.

>> No.5276808

>>5276760
>Rin vs Caster
But that was plothax, Rin would have won if not for that damn plothaxing Caster!

>> No.5276814

>>5276772
If there was anything that can be called 'Plot Armor' is Shirou's survival at the end of HF.

You're dumb as a bag of hammers.

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5276834

>>5276814
You Angry?

>> No.5276842

>>5276834
>Angry Type-Moon Fan
Verily

>> No.5276851

>>5276808
Rin always suffers from reverse plothax.

>> No.5276932

>>5276851
She's atoning for the plothax against Berserker in Fate and Shirou not dying in HF.

>> No.5278548

What can I do before I die that will take me out of the ring of reincarnation and qualify me as a future servant?

>> No.5278559

Berserker lost to Shirou's 9 lives so he must suck pretty bad.

>> No.5278565

>>5278548
Deviate from your destined fate.

>> No.5278609

So this is basically Dragonball Z for neckbeards?

>> No.5278773

>>5278565

Should I consult a Calvinist priest to find out what this is?

>> No.5278846

>>5275795
I think I see what you did there.

>> No.5279064

op you forgot that all the other servants got their asses kicked in one way or another on every other route

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