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"VNs" are adventure games.

No. What part of the word Visual Novel and its presentation do you not understand?

>>5267876
VNs should be called jADV

THE PIRATE I WAS MEANT TO BE

>>5267883
This, It isn't hard to understand.

>>5267876

I take this as a yes then.

I wonder if a puzzle game is a visual novel. Hmm.

Puzzle solving games with emphasis on story.
Calling it a VN even though there's a fair amount of dialogue reading is too far fetched.

I like some of them for the atmosphere and art though.

Adventure games can be considered VNs as fruit can be considered apples.

>>5267883

Have you ever played adventure games ?

You know,old school adventure,not some 3-d kill-them-all "adventure".

>>5267898
if you call ar tonelico visual novel then sure why not

>>5267905

Hey I found out there's a card battle in Princess Waltz. Shouldn't it classify as sex card game ?

>>5267891

TRIM THE SAIL AND ROAM THE SEA

>>5267873
Look behind you, a three-headed faggot!

>>5267923
>sex card game

Hmmm...

>>5267934

Not 5,fucking failed.

Machinarium is an adventure game, yet it has no dialogue. Therefore no.

>>5267898

By your definition Rance shouldn't be considered a VN then.

>>5267936
Deliciously depressing world of grim robots.

>>5267909
I grew up with Loom and the Lucasarts boom of adventure games of the late 80s and early 90s. Now, tell me mr. gaymen what part of the word "Visual Novel" do you not understand? They dont even contain any game play for fucks sake, not to mention that the average adventure game has three times more artwork and variables than a typical story driven (meaning a distinct lack of choices, ie. railroading) VN.

Get it straight you dumb tits, VNs shouldnt even be considered games when it comes to these conversations.

>>5267946
It's eroge. As in "game with porn".

>>5267911

If you've played it then you'd honestly see that it's a visual novel more than anything else, but whatever.

>>5267948
>They dont even contain any game play for fucks sake, not to mention that the average adventure game has three times more artwork and variables than a typical story driven (meaning a distinct lack of choices, ie. railroading) VN.

Also like the above stated,the way you put it games like Princess Waltz can't be considered VN then since they do have gameplay.

>>5267954

You grinded monsters in Ever17 and Cross Channel ?

>>5267954
I did. It's VN as much as Melty Blood(original) and Rance are.

Are you guys excited for Monkey Island 2: Special Edition?

YUNO is adventure game, and visual novel. But that doesn't mean that all adventure games are visual novels, very few are.

I like adventure games, though, but most aren't /jp/ material.

>>5267953

Do eroges qualify as VN then ?

>>5267973

Yeah...no.

The fucking remake of the first one was horrible. I'd rather play the whole thing in the classic version.

>>5267986
Same.
Also, Lucas Arts can fuck themselves.

Playing this right now.

>>5267986
I thought everyone is just interested in the voice acting

>>5267975
VNs are VNs, eroges are eroges. On /jp/ VNs are eroges and eroges are vns.

>>5267986
Aye. Theres just somethings you cant replace without PC speaker beeps and PIXELS EVERYWHERE. Its kinda like with Monkey Island 3, the artwork was and still is gorgeous, but somehow the humor seemed bland and used.

Visual novels are not adventure games. In fact, visual novels are not games of any kind. They are what it says on the tin - visual novels.

You play an adventure game, and it presents you with puzzles and gameplay challenges. You read a visual novel and it presents you with a story. The most interactive visual novels give you like one multiple-choice question every 30 minutes of reading. That is not nearly comparable to adventure games, where you _play_ all the time and there is a very real possibility that you just can't get forward, because of something you can't figure out.

Also, honestly most adventure games hardly have any story worth speaking of. Their stories serve as an excuse or backdrop for puzzles, and the puzzles are their main content.

>>5267873

The Monkey Island series fucking rules... Gosh I miss that era of gaming.

Aren't Visual Novels just digital choose-your-own-adventure books?

no

>>5268288
I still play these golden era games for the amazing artwork, I mean look at fucking "The Dig", still looks amazing. Great storytelling in these types of adventure games also, the best I have seen on the PC.

>>5268291
>Aren't Visual Novels just digital choose-your-own-adventure books?

Some of them would be if CYOA books made you read forty pages before each choice instead of one or two paragraphs.

And not all visual novels have _any_ choices or interactive elements at all. Like Umineko.

ScummVM here I come.

Any new adventure games that caught anon's attention lately?
I just got Black Mirror 2, delicious background artwork, but of the modern 3d-ish style.

>>5268315
That games looks gorgeous! It's so hard these days for me to notice games that are not from big production companies, I am just mildly retarded it's all.

I tend to live in the past and proclaim that no game can touch on the shiny golden nostalgia throne of old adventure point and clickers, I'll check this one out to see if I'm wrong.

>>5268315
Last adventure game i played was Syberia. Cant quite make up my mind about it, but one things for sure and thats the fact that adventure games as they were in the "golden age" are over.

Well, don't Western Adventure games and VNs have the same ancestors (Zork, Colossal Cave) and then they split evolution wise?

¡Sí! ¡He dejado en libertad los prisioneros y ahora vengo por ti!

As far as protagonists go, certainly not Shiki, not Shirou, and not even Rance are immune to the dreaded "rhymes with orange".

Sanitarium was fucking amazing

>>5268382
I liked Syberia. It was quite serious, though, which is a big departure from most adventure games we know and love.

>>5268269
>They are what it says on the tin - visual novels.
Except most of what we gaijins refer to as visual novels are called ADVs by the people who make them.