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saber

You should know this already.

SABER

Rance

Kenshin has a katana, which is superior to those shitty western swords that are all power and no technique like Saber uses.

Kenshin all the way

Kenshin

I think a better questions is which you would rather have, uh, wield your sword.
Kenshin all the way.

Only one of the two has ever had a penis. That makes Saber a swordstranny. Kenshin is the only swordswoman.

They are both excellent swordsmen in their own right.

If Saber is to Kenshin as Berserker is to Mouri Motonari
Saber wins

If I recall correctly, Kenshin just barely beat Saber in popularity

Saber has better plot armor

>>5231079
>katana, which is superior to those shitty western swords that are all power and no technique like Saber uses.
How did she beat Assassin?

>>5231079

That's it, i'm tired of all this Masterwork Bastard Sword bullshit...

>>5231124
Because Saber's sword was forged by gods while Assassin's was forged by a man.

If his sword hadn't bent slightly Tsubame Gaeshi would have killed Saber, and he wasn't even a real heroic spirit.

>>5231138
Where is my Assassin route

>>5231163
It'd be like Hisui route, except you're stuck by a gate instead of in bed.

>>5231163
Nasu's working on it alongside Satsuki route, but I heard you had to complete Shinji route first to unlock it.

>>5231124

She cheated.

>>5231138
Yes and if saber's magic power wasn't so low she would've blown assasin away like nothing.

Don't deal in what if's.

>>5231171
> Sacchin getting a route

hahaha like THAT will ever happen. Next you'll be telling me Ilya gets a route.

Ryougi Shiki.

>>5231174
Its not a what if, it was stated in Fate Stay Night if the sword hadn't bent Saber would have lost.

>>5231182
It also said that if he didn't let his sword get bent he wouldn't have gotten into position to use his hax sword techniques.

>>5231182
I'm just saying that it's his noble phantasm, you can't really count that.

>>5231187
> Rin below Saber

imokwiththis

>>5231193
He doesn't have a "real" Noble Phantasm, its just a move that is substituted in its place isn't it?

>>5231201
It's still an impossible magic move.

Who is the better swordswoman? Aselia, Kenshin or Saber?

>>5231187
Saber lost by one faggot.

Does that prove anything?

Saber

Obviously Saber.

Kenshin is using inferior weaponry and armour coupled with an approach to combat that is best against unarmoured opponents.

While Saber is using a superior blade, superior armour (except for the few retarded gaps) and her approach to combat takes into account both unarmoured and armoured opponents.

>>5231187
Kenshin FTW

>>5231230
Saber's armor leaves so much exposed flesh.

>>5231138

Yes but he was completely borked.

He was a fictional character whose only thing was that sword technique. That is all he had.

Kenshin's armor is made of straw.

>>5231234

Hence retarded gaps.

>>5231239
Its made of steel

>>5231244

Inferior Japanese steel.

Ergo it is made of straw substitute.

Saber should have used a boat oar.

>>5231265
Miyamoto Musashi?

I think the real question is, who would Rance enjoy raping more, Kenshin or Saber?

>>5231275

Could he rape Saber?

Wait no stupid question. It's Rance. He can rape anything.

Probably Kenshin. It would give him a chance to try out that thing he keeps hearing about...oh whats it called I forget....consensual sex?

>>5231220
>Saber lost by one faggot.
>Saber lost by one
>Saber lost

>>5231187
>6. Mitsurugi Meiya
Wow, I didn't know she was that popular.

>>5231320
I was more surprised by Mitsuki and Nemu

The real question is what Saber's level is.

>>5231344
You were surprised by Nemu's popularity?

>>5231388
Okay, not so much surprised as disappointed

As much as I love Kenshin, SEIBA definetly wins.

Besides, western sword > katana

HEART OF THE SWORD thread?

>>5231107
Then that means Isoroku is Archer? And Ran is Caster?

>>5231424
AND RIDER IS BABA SHOUEN

Oh god what

>>5231283
>Could he rape Saber?

According to Shirou, full-powered Saber under Rin could probably overpower Berserker in melee. Even if that's hyperbole, that's atill a lot of fucking power. The fact that Shirou's Saber can parry Berserker's blows already means her magic reinforcement makes her ludicrously strong.

Suppose by some fluke and a string of cosmic coincidences he manages to put her down and stick his dick inside. She would probably snap it off.

Which makes me wonder exactly how the shit Gilgamesh was planning on raping her. He could stab her all he wanted, but trying to pin her down while naked would be suicide.

>>5231429
>>5231424
You are now realising Rance is Emiya Shirou

>>5231441
But

>>5231447
We'll have to change that.

>>5231441
>pin her down while naked would be suicide.
Actually, it's because it's suicide is the reason that he went after her.

>>5231424

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNKFhk9ql1Q

WHAT THE FUCK I RECOGNIZE THAT FIGURE.

>>5231447

No, that's Kentarou.

>>5231441
That's not how Rance rape works. She would only resist in mostly cosmetic ways, never doing anything that would risk actually ending the scene. Afterwards, she'll be somewhat upset but oddly meek and a few events later she falls in love with him.

>>5231455
Remember that this happened while she was resisting a command spell. Doing that should be technically impossible to begin with, it's no wonder she couldn't move.

Physically keeping someone capable of parrying blows from fucking HERAKLES is an entirely different business.

>>5231466
Only after you get her satisfaction to 7 by giving her pretty bowls and cups

>>5231424
hot!

yeah, Kenshin wins, but Rance gets to rape both of them

>>5231466
You know what happened when he tried to grope Miki?

Yeah.

This is not "What would happen if Saber were the typical character Rance rapes". This is "What would happen if Rance tried to rape Saber". The answer being "Same thing that happened to the dude in Utawarerumono that tried to rape Karura".

European umbrella vs. Japanese umbrella.

>>5231492
I don't care how unreasonably expensive or useless this is, I'm totally buying it.

Kenshin is a better swordsman, Saber is stronger overall.

>>5231492
The Umbrella looks bland but the handle/sheath is AWESOME.

>>5231492
I want one

Saber has power. Kenshin has skill.

That said, Kenshin is a better character.

Kenshin wins by distracting Saber with food.

>>5231525
>implying kenshin wouldn't just eat the food herself

In an equal fight(No Magical sword bullshit) probably Kenshin

If Saber was packing her normal gear and Kenshin had hers,it's no doubt that it's Saber. I didnt play much of Rance but from what I can tell,Kenshin have an attack that has a casualty rate of 10,000. Nor does she have a Magical Sword of her own.

>>5231539

>Kenshin does not have an attack that has a casualty rate of 10,000

>>5231511

You kidding?

They're very different swordsmen from very different places.

You can't compare them in terms of skill really.

All you can do is compare how effective they are against certain targets.

>>5231525

Saber does have that fatal weakness.

"LOOK SABER FOOOD!"

"RAAAH FEED ME!"

*throws food in trap*

*Saber charges after food*

All that matters is Rin is inferior to both

Who knows? Still, Saber is beyond anything human, with the command spell, I believe she can go at a speed of something around Mach 13. In any case, she also covered managed to do a 7m+slash within two steps, which for a servant, is probably under a second as well.

In any case... "Excaaaaliibuuur!!!!!!!!"

>>5231582

Is it ever established where Rance is from?

If he's English he'd probably be all "oh my liege!"

>>5231525
>>5231531
OH GOD

THEY ARE THE SAME CHARACTER

>>5231595
rance's birthplace is unknown according to this
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Rance

>>5231643

Would make me laugh

Crossover with him and Saber meeting.

Saber whips out Excalibur.

Rance is on his knees in a second saying "oh my liege!"

I would lul. I would lul until I could lul no more.

Suzume = Assassin

>>5231670
Then who was Lancer?

Definetly a footman, but which one?

If I'm not wrong, Excalibur can dish out ~1200 points of damage, right? Although that's nowhere close to something like Ea, it's still ridiculously powerful.

In other words, it doesn't matter if Saber is worse or not, she wins either way.

>>5231675

The lolicon?

>>5231677

Well supposedly it can be used as an anti-castle weapon.

Kenshin wins because silly helmet

>>5231684
Well, he is the most known footman in the game, but I don't know... it doesn't really fit. Then again, nothing is worse than >>5231429

>>5231687
Look at that fucking helmet.

Look at it for fuck's sake.

>>5231695

It is most retarded.

>>5231706
It's powerful though.
Fuckin' Bishamonten.

And then again, silly helmet > no helmet, so in that aspect, she's better protected than Saber.

How many action flags would saber have?

>>5231716
Too bad saber has an armor which can be instantly repaired, so if it comes to a battle attrition, Saber would have the upper hand.

>>5231727

And if she has her sheath then goodbye Kenshin

>>5231732
Oh yeah, I forgot. Immortality is *so* fair.

>>5231675
Senhime

>>5231727
But does saber have BISHAMONTEN DIVINE PROTECTION?

No, she doesn't... She probably has something better, like magical energy.

>>5231749
>>5231732
Oh yeah, and the sheath.

Okay, but for a second let's assume we're only talking about raw fencing skill.

fake assassin

true assassin

>>5231749
That's actually a disadvantage in a way. It also means that she can't use excalibur more than once, and that if the battle drags on *too* long, she'll have to admit defeat.

But yeah, with immortality, you can't really lose. She can go beserk and win without having to fear anything before she runs out, which'll most likely work unless she's really underpowered.

>>5231755
Well, first of all, who's the master? If it's Rin, then Saber's stats are all on the As or A+s so Saber probably won't lose due to sheer power.

What if Rance was a servant?

>>5231773
Angra Mainyu would be leaking shit in HA from the raping it got from rance.

isn't kenshin lvl 3 swordmanship?
she'd slice saber in half before she notices it

>>5231778
Not to mention NTR end for shirou in HF.

>>5231773
Rance = Rapist

>>5231780
Yeah, but saber can move at mach 13 speed and shit.

>>5231787
No, no, it has to end in -er!

So... Raper.

>>5231789
That's only with a command spell designed for a one-action purpose. So, Saber might be able to get a sneak attack with around a 100% chance of cutting her into two, but that's only if masters are allowed.

Better question.

Who would have the tightest vagina? Saber after experiencing a Shirou jackhammering, or Kenshin after experiencing Rance's hyperweapon?

Saber has no divine protection.

>>5231812
Divine protection of the sheath. Divine protection from the Lady of the Lake.

>>5231804
And then Arc gets better. Cutting her lines can't even kill her.

ITT a simple question about skill becomes a contest of dickwaving and "my powerup beats your powerup"

>>5231819
who needs that shit when you got me

>>5231819
Saber doesn't always have Avalon.

>>5231790
SONNOVABITCH So we got fakes in the 4th and 5th grail war. I want to see a 3rd war OVA with Assassiner.

>>5231824
Aren't all discussions involving F/SN kinda like that usually?

>>5231810
Dude. Rance's Hyperweapon (notice the caps) is like... like... some sort of CUNT DESTROYER.

>>5231960

It doesn't destroy the cunt.

It destroys the womans ability to resist Rance.

Although his Hyperweapon is larger than any other.

>>5231975
Yeah, that's what I meant.

I mean, look at this shit. And it's flaccid in the picture.

Unrelated, but what? Seriously

>>5231988
i don't see kou's penis

>>5232006
I've never recruited him, but, isn't there an event somewhere to lower the recruitment cost?

>>5232011
That's because it's tiny.

>>5231988
When does this scene happen?
I dont remember it in true route

>>5232013
I'm trying to capture Kurohime, anyway to get it to 50?

>>5232006

Those values don't need to be done in a single action. If you tried then it would fail, but next time the search would only need 16.

>>5231975
It's not bigger, just stronger and better.
That monk guy...Genri iirc, is bigger than Rance.

>>5232043
Oh thanks, I got her

>>5231763
>It also means that she can't use excalibur more than once, and that if the battle drags on *too* long, she'll have to admit defeat.

And HOW would this possibly happen? If Saber does the Check-out-how-I'm-copying-Link spin move with Excalibur like in Hollow, she could wipe out thousands upon thousands of enemies and pretty much everything in half a kilometer instantly, how the shit would you create a situation in a duel with Kenshin where she would need to use it twice?

>>5231773
Gilgamesh is essentially a more dignified and mature Rance already. Same overbloated self-entitlement, less crying like a bitch whenever a woman emasculates him and his weird-ass set of values is kinda more benign than Rance's since his definition of "worthy people" doesn't discriminate gender, and he'll defend his posessions (people) from others, even if he himself wouldn't mind killing them, again regardless of gender.

Only a handful of characters in Rance have a nuke ability like Excalibur, Kenshin attempting to fight Saber would be like Rance trying to fight Suzaku. Instant vaporization, even if in standard combat Rance would win (v. Gigai).

Now, here's an awesome pairing. All of the 5th and 4th Holy Grail War Servants v. Xavier

Kenshin looks cooler. She wins.

Saber was a virgin. Virgin people are mentally stronger so she is most likely a better swordswoman too, even without taking account her powers as a servant.

>>5234328
So was Kenshin

Kenshin has a silly hat, therefore she is part toohoo