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Forgot "Mahjong thread" in the subject field.

Q: Can I become a schoolgirl lesbian if I play enough mahjong?

>>5101548
No.

i usually just grab the L7447 link from OP's post and start playing but this time i read a little more and

>shang tsung toi boi rama lama ding dong
ahahahahaha

>>5101556
I grabbed that from the first response in last thread since it was such great advice

I'm starting to write a mahjong game that I'll eventually have going in flash/.exe much like Tenhou, but I'm designing it with a better lobby system and a much much more extensible ability with rules. I.e. the ability to set a ton of options or house rules for a table, as opposed to just nashi/ari/red5/fast pretty much, think dozens of minor options like sextuple limits, aotenju, certain non standard yaku like daisharin/sanrenkou/openriichi, etc.

Just putting this out there, but is there any custom rules or options you've always wished Tenhou has been able to do or not been satisfied with? Just asking for input since I'm writing the design document up for myself right now.

>>5101656
If everyone is in riichi, the winner wins the all the points from the other players

>holy shit lose 15 games in a row of 3p in L0000 and your rate turns to shit
>i'm almost down to three digits now lol
i went down to 1100 once but slowly making it back up, at 1300 now
it's a little tough to climb back up

>>5101656
Washizu mahjong.

>>5101699
This is obviously a given. As is 2p mahjong from Ten.

2:0

3:0

>>5101656
man>pin>sou>honors
--custom order of tiles
--pin>man>sou>honors or honors>man>pin>sou
割目 wareme
二飜縛りryanhan-shibari
--No "auto sorted insert" of drawn tiles into the hand, no random position of discarded tile from the hand. So you can sort the tiles in your hand any way you like or can read your opponent's hand through the position in his hand from which he discards.

>>5102298
You can sort your own hand with the paid client (and not the flash version I believe). But that doesn't affect how other people see your discards, I'd like what you are saying too as it would make it much more realistic.
Being able to sort your own hand helps a lot with chinitsu regardless.

>>5101656
Han requirements for scoring so you little shits don't call open tanyao and yakuhai for 200 pts all.

>>5102298
Oh there it was.

Link: http://tenhou.net/0/?52796672

Starts: 05/15/10 10:00 EST/4CHAN TIME
Ends: 05/15/10 15:00 EST/4CHAN TIME

Rules:
- Rank is determined by your best 3 game streak.

Game Rules:
- 4 Player
- Ari Red Fast
- Tonnansen (East and South rounds)

Ranking:
http://tenhou.net/sc/?C5279-sc3m

>>5101656
Don't make it un-fucking-usable because it's slow as shit.

Just in case MANkoto-kun posts in this thread later: Hi MANkoto-kun!!!

>>5101656
2vs2
1vs3

>>5101656
http://www.osamuko.com/2010/02/01/list-of-undecided-rules-tenhou-2/

>>5102365
I only play economy (not even premium).
How is it implemented? Drag and drop?

>>5102440
Yes.

Stop using the same image macro you faggot.

>>5102298
>>5102365
I'm definitely thinking about having these options (manual/auto sort, discard from actual place in hand, etc) which is really something I think is a valid strategy to play with. It's also needed to really enjoy Washizu mahjong.

>>5102389
I'm thinking of an option that lets you set a minimum han amount (sort of like after 5 dealer rounds you need 2 han, etc) where you can feel free to set it all the way up to yakuman if you want, though mangan would be more common I'd think.

>>5101656
add chombo mode (allow someone to call chi/pon/kan/ron/tsumo/riichi at any time)

i want to see some crazy noten riichis

1 more for 4p.

>>5102521
Poor finlandman.

>>5102531
But he's going to win, what can we do when he just says tsumo and flips over his tiles and says something like ryan-shan-ten, mangan? Nothing but pay up, that's what.

>>5101529
>>5101556
>>5101648
samefag

You could had won if you didn't riichi.

>>5102518
What about all the ones in >>5102418 ?

Shitty luck continues!

>>5101528
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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>5102881
straaaaaaaaaaaaaaight

>>5102920
couuuGAAAAAAAAAR

Fuck you Monsieur Luck!

HUEHUE

age

+1 for 3p

3p is for faggots

what would you do?

>>5104005
discard 1m

>>5104005
Yeah, is this a serious question?
1m every time.

>>5104005

Bail.

Cut the 9p.

>>5104005
Discard the 2, wait to pon something.

People willingly play 3P?

>>5104005
4p all or nothing, and if you deal in and its not a baiman you atleast troll the top player

>>5104036

Even worse, they're all holing in L7447.

>>5104127
Even worse, they play mahjong instead of bitching about other people.

>>5104146
>slow
Yeah. Good luck with it.

>>5104144

Butthurt 3pfag

>>5104195
Thank you for your intelligent reply.

>>5104307
>Bawwwww

>>5104315

>>5104331

>>5104344

>>5104358

>>5104389

What the hell's going on here

>>5104423
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>>5104005

>>5104578
retard

>>5104578

I'm shocked how you got to 7 kyu with that level of stupidity. You should have gotten rid of the 9p first since it was the most defensive, then proceeded to discard the two 1m tiles if you had not drawn another defensive tile. You fully deserved that loss.

Sure is elitist-faggots around here.

>>5104806
>7 kyu with that level of stupidity

Because winning 3 games in 3p is so hard

what?

>>5104900
your faget

>>5104005
makes me wonder if I would have the balls to do 7p

Bump.

>>5104005

>3p

Get the fuck out.

2 more for 4p.

Bump.

3p is for faggots who cant play a real mahjong game

>>5106668

Its you isn't it?

>>5106678

Butthurt 3pfag

>>5106837

Butthurt butthurt.

>>5107010
>BAWWW SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE 3P

>>5107036
>UGUU HOW COME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO FACE MY AWESOME OPEN TANYAO/YAKUHAI?

>>5107043
>BAWWWW i only play at 3p because i cant win in 4p

ok which one of you is zettai and where did you get all that sand

srsly

>>5107095
it's 3p dude

>>5101656
here. Sorry, went to bed for the day. Let me clear some of this up.

>--custom order of tiles
This will most likely be an option on a per-user basis, not per-table. i.e. you can have it autosort if you want, or manually move them around. As for people seeing which tile came from where in your hand though, that would be a table option.

>割目 wareme
I'm not sure how this works, I've never played with it, but I've read about it and will probably make it an option since I see it requested a lot.

>二飜縛りryanhan-shibari
This is the 2-han requirement after a dealer wins 4 times, right? This will likely be an option as will paarenchan (the yakuman for winning 8 times).

>http://www.osamuko.com/2010/02/01/list-of-undecided-rules-tenhou-2/
Off the top of my head from that list that I didn't mention before, I'm looking at yakitori, sub-zero, multiple aka-dora, flowers (I guess), and a few others.

>chombo mode
Totally. Chombo would make for some pretty amusing things to happen. Won't be default obviously, but still.

Anything else, guys?

>>5107417
Is Washizu Mahjong possible?

>>5107423
Yeah, see >>5101743

It's one of the first custom options I'll probably work on.

>>5107455
Thanks, you rock!

What are your plans for dealing with integer overflow in Aotenjou? This is the issue currently stopping Tsuno from adding it to Tenhou.

>>5107658
Tenhou's 32-bit, so at the most that pretty much limits points to 2^31, so basically a 29-han hand would already overflow the game. Playing on a few other games that have forms of aotenju, their method is to cap the limit of basic points at something arbitrary like a billion or something, which caps off hands worth 30 han. Pic related.

While this may be a temporary solution, I don't really agree with this. One option that may cause more problems than it solves is to work with 64-bit, allowing a hand of up to 61 han or so, but that doesn't really help if someone makes multiple of them. At the minimum it allows a much higher limit of basic points, like a quintillion, so you'd be looking at triple yakumans and tons of dora before it's an issue, I guess.


The best system would probably be dedicated integer appending allowing for as many points as I need, I guess. For example, using 4 INT32 and working with them as if it was using a 128-bit number. However, this might be more effort than it's worth for absurdly high hands that would almost never happen.

I'll probably get aotenju working with a cap like most games do, then after testing determine if I need to expand the maximum number of points.

>>5107948
Tenhou doesn't use the last two zeroes in scores.

>>5107948

Mahjong should be simple:

8-9: 24000 (dealer)
10-12: 36000
13-15: 48000
16-19: 60000
20-22: 72000
23-26: 84000
27-29: 96000
30-32: 108000
33+: 120000

The highest legit hand I can think of is being dealer with closed 22223444466668888 sou, red-27 rules (one of each in hand), nukidora (all 4 flowers/pei), dora indicators 11113 sou and ura dora 35555 sou, riichi first turn (or does kan invalidate daburi), ippatsu tsumo with 3 sou.

ryuu iisou, suuankou tanki, suukantsu, chinitsu, toitoi, tanyao, double riichi, ippatsu, menzen, dora 49, so 114 han (100 if tanki wait is single yakuman and daburi isn't valid). Easily already in the realm of needing at least 128-bit storage, but I can't think of why you'd need anything higher.

>>5108094

How much han is one yakuman worth, or are they worth different amounts of han for different yakumans?

>>5108094
also if renhou is valid then technically strike off menzen and add it for a total of 126 han, though thats starting to skirt the line for 128-bit

>>5108112
13 for each one in aotenjou. So 26 for a double yakuman, 39 for triple, 52 quadruple, 65 quintuple.

>>5108094
No Daburi after closed
kan. Rinshan Kaihou can also work instead of ippatsu.

>>5108118
Closed kan invalidates it.

>>5108112
13 each, but you could count Suu an Kou as 26 i you want it to be double yakuman. Depends on the house rules.

Ten hatsu as dora indicators, 18 haku on hand.

>>5108147
Oh wait ... chun.

I think the better question is: What's the biggest non-yakuman han hand you can get?

>>5108171

22334455667788m

Dora: 11112
Ura-Dora: 2334
Has a red five

>>5108184

>>5108184

menzen tsumo (1)
ippatsu (1)
tanyao (1)
pinfu (1)
double richi (2)
chiitoitsu (2)
ryanpeikou (3)
chinitsu (6)
dora (20)

47 han

I dunno, I think we can do better than that.

>>5108203

I don't think ryanpeikou and pinfu can stack.

>>5108208

Replace that with red five then.

>>5108208
ryanpeikou, ryanmei wait, non-yakuhai pair -> pinfu

>>5108171
Something along the lines of riichi, ippatsu, chin itsu, tan yao, toi toi, san an kou, san kan tsu, and 10 dora for each of the kan, so something like 22 33 5555 6666 8888p with 44447777p as dora, ronning on 2 or 3p.

1 riichi (1)
2 ippatsu (1)
8 chin itsu (6)
9 tan yao (1)
11 toi toi (2)
13 san an kou (2)
15 san kan tsu (2)
63 dora (48)
64 red dora (1)

>>5108208
It can.

>>5108222
8 dora for the kan, because 10 dora would require 4 kans.

>>5108171
Something along the lines of riichi, ippatsu, chin itsu, tan yao, toi toi, san an kou, san kan tsu, and 8 dora indicators hitting the kans, so something like 22 33 5555 6666 8888p with 44447777p as dora, ronning on 2 or 3p.

1 riichi (1)
2 ippatsu (1)
8 chin itsu (6)
9 tan yao (1)
11 toi toi (2)
13 san an kou (2)
15 san kan tsu (2)
47 dora (32)
48 red dora (1)

miscounting

>>5108222
>>5108094

I don't know the rules of nukidora, so I don't understand how the combined dora and ura-dora count can exceed 40.

>>5108094
>>5108184
>>5108203
>>5108237

>Small Numbers Mean Nothing!!

>>5108184

If 3p rules are applied:

rinjankaihoo (1)
menzen tsumo (1)
ippatsu (1)
tanyao (1)
pinfu (1)
double richi (2)
chiitoitsu (2)
ryanpeikou (3)
chinitsu (6)
dora (14)
ura-dora (10)
red five (1)

53 han

>>5108251
We all about BEGINNING OF THE COSMOS, that's why I said "legit hand" meaning with a standard deck and real house rules even if some of them are kinda silly like red-27 and flowers. I don't think there will be any goumoupai in an online game.

>>5108284

it WAS a legit deck

>>5104005
>>5104578

3p is for faggots who cant play a real mahjong game

>>5108290
legit uranium deck no less

>>5108313

regardless of material.
its still legit.
and its depleted uranium.

>>5108237
Alternatively hon itsu + shou san gen is worth more. Assuming you're dealer in east round,

5555p, 4 tons, 4 chuns, 2 haku and 2 hatsu
Dora: 4444p and 4 peis
And ron off a haku/hatsu.


1 riichi (1)
2 ippatsu (2)
5 hon itsu (3)
7 east wind (2)
8 chun (1)
9 hatsu/haku (1)
11 shou san gen (2)
13 toi toi (2)
15 san an kou (2)
17 san kan tsu (2)
49 dora (32)
50 red dora (1)

Is it legal to leave yaku out when scoring your own hand?

bump

One more for 3p, 2 for 4p.
Also, if possible, please comment on my mistakes.
I feel like I haven't improved at all in this game.

Let's Play!

Theoretical question. You get dealt 11 ends so you decide why not, let's go for kokushi. You end up halfway through the round, 9th discard or so, and your hand makeup looks like:

1m, 9p, 1s, 2x tong, 2x nan 1x sha 1x pei 1x haku 1x hatsu 2x chun.

You draw another sha. There is 1 tong on the table and 1 haku, no other honors discarded. Do you keep discarding paired honors and stay the course for kokushi, or discard the 3 terminals you have and aim for tsuu iisou (and potentially daisangen/shousuushi)?

>>5110657
betaori is the answer.

Also, easy kokushi is easy.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050521gm-0009-0000-0dd0f56a&tw=0&ts=7

>>5110718

Why in fuck's name would anyone call riichi on a kokushi? You trolling or something?

>>5110730
Why not?

>>5110730
Who knows. I didn't play that game.

I gave up a yakuman during my dealer turn and still won.
LOL 3P. Tsumo sure is shit in 3p.

>>5110750
Because what is good about kokushi is that your opponents don't know when you're in tenpai and you put a lot of pressure on the other players. If you reach, you can only hope for tsumo, no one will discard any honor or terminal until the end anymore. That should be obvious, I don't know why you're asking. Riichi is an additional han + udora, but the counterpart is that your opponents know that you're one tile away from winning. You don't need any additional han if your hand is a yakuman.

>>5110730
must be touka playing

>>5110825
It's a freaking 13sided wait so the chances of tsumo are high enough + you might intimidate your opponents so that they go defensive and don't cockblock with a 2han hand

>>5110839
it's not always a 13 sided wait, if you fail to have 1 of each you end up with a tanki wait

Tenhou sometimes gives you yakumans even if you don't understand complicated majhong rules.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051021gm-00c1-0000-7353d518&tw=2&ts=6

>>5110825
It is a 5th turn riichii.
His discards are 7m/7s/7p. Unless you are fucking Akagi, I doubt anyone would sense a Kokushi.

>>5110825
>your opponents don't know when you're in tenpai
Yeah, right.
>you can only hope for tsumo
That's the point. You shouldn't expect anyone to deal in in the first place.

>>5110847
>if you don't understand complicated majhong rules.
>2dan

>>5110848
>>5110848
>His discards are 7m/7s/7p. Unless you are fucking Akagi, I doubt anyone would sense a Kokushi.
Uh, what else should it be? he discarded good tiles in ALL THREE SUITS so its either Kokushi or some All Honors / Four Winds shit

>>5110857
>2dan
Would you riichii a late game single tanki probably hell wait double yakuman?
I definitely wont.

>>5110847
>Riichi with a Chin Ro To Sou an Kou Tanki

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

>>5110860
Low numbers sanshoku, low numbers iipeikou, low numbers pinfu, yakuhai with low numbers straight.
There is so many possibility. I agree with him. Riichiiing is the right choice. Slow other You have 13waits and you slow down the rest of them since room0 is full of defensive fags.

>>5110860
Toitoi, chitoi, riichi only crap hand. You don't NEED 7m/7s/7p for anything.

This site is awful.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050320gm-0007-0000-b2252d4d&tw=1&ts=4
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051103gm-0089-0000-bff01339&tw=1&ts=8
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050506gm-0009-0000-e5116cae&tw=2&ts=8

>>5110884
>http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050320gm-0007-0000-b2252d4d&tw=1&ts=4

That was awesome

>>5110851
If you're damaten? Hell no, people will attack if they've got good hands. Someone going for kokushi but noten is an awesome target who'll deal into any ryanmen like a defenseless puppy. Of course, I'm talking about middle-round discards, not the last three discards of a round.

There is also some reverse psychology here. Nobody will expect someone with a kokushi to riichii.

>>5110923
>Nobody will expect someone with a kokushi to riichii
...

Excuse me sir, but someone who only discarded middle tiles during the first ten go arounds and then suddenly reaches has definitely something huge honor/terminal related. There's no reverse bullshit at all, except if you're dumb, of course.

>>5110940
>His discards are 7m/7s/7p
>5th turn
>riichii
Yes. His hand is definitely a kokushi. Great insight there bro.

I don't be sure, he said slowly. It's like it, but I can't tell.
There's a serial slews on the side, I said.
Nobody remembers the serial numbers of guns.
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>>5110940
>something huge honor/terminal related
Chanta Riichi 3han

>>5110947
Excuse me but what the hell are you talking about?

>>5110960
Read everything from >>5110718
>Also, easy kokushi is easy.
>http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050521gm-0009-0000-0dd0f56a&tw=0&ts=7

>>5110947
>Yes. His hand is definitely a kokushi. Great insight there bro.
It's definitely better to expect a Kokushi and deal into a stupid Toi Toi San Ankou / Chi toi tsu / whatever than into a Yakuman, dont deal those freaking honors

>>5110968
Ah. Okay. Well, yeah, if you've got a 13-sided kokushi during the fifth go-around, you can reach and enjoy your yakuman.

I wasn't sure when I called that 9p, but in the end I really killed that Nagashi Mangan. Fun game.

>>5111245
Weird game if you ask me, but GG

>>5110730
I did once on a kokushi in 3p in the ouras with an impossible wait while in the lead. Beato bailed, I got noten bappu.
I only did it to show them the kokushi tenpai after a draw.

Let's play some 4p.

>>5110970
> It's definitely better to expect a Kokushi and deal into a stupid Toi Toi San Ankou / Chi toi tsu /
Or a 四暗刻 緑一色.

One more for 4P

Bump for 3P.

Bump.

So uh, I just landed two kokushis back to back in two rounds in lol3p. I know lol3p, but that seems kinda unlikely odds to even get tenpai back to back, much less land them. Is it really that common or just blah blah tenhou luck?

>>5113819
Also: the first one was a haitei tsumo win, the second one was tenpai on the 5th turn and ron.

Craziest 3p match in a while.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051311gm-0019-0000-17fcb339&tw=1

Excuse my retarded discards, I've been out of it for a while.

Third round was crazy. KITA, kan, KITA, riichi, ron.

Lucky bastard to my left gets daisangan... I still come out on top though, w00t.

>>5113864
>3p

>>5110974
What about a normal single wait on the 5th turn? How would you have read these discards? Do they really smell that strongly of kokushi?

>>5113887
Yeah, yeah, I know, lol3p, but I may as well raise my rank for the hell of it.

>>5113898
>3p

>>5113887
>>5113965

>>5113982
>COM

>>5113982
>3p com

Why the hell do people even post 3 player screenshots?

>>5114106
but the player on the right also waits on the 3p and 6p D:

>>5114132
because high scoring hands are more interesting than the 7500th open tanyao or yakuhai used to win games of 4p

>>5114169

>>5114169
9p for ikkitsukan is best, though.

Either way, what a dick move.

>>5114106

>>5114342
Single waits on dragons are good for mind games.
old screenshot.

>>5114189
>He still thinks that open tanyao/yakuhai works on people who know how to play

Laughing whores.jpg

You seriously use this as an excuse? Pathetic

I mean, you can just admit that you suck in 4p instead of blaming it on those trash hand players

Well, open tanyao/yakuhai could work on short games, just because the game ends early. Then again, that's still just a shitty excuse.

>>5115023
>>5115062
>>5115097
>>5115114
>blaming it on those trash hand players
>trash hand players
>almost every single person playing 4p in L7447

>>5115023
>>5115062
>>5115097
>1024x768
Get a fucking new PC poorfag

>>5115158

Butthurt 3pfag

>>5115023
>>5115062
>>5115097
>>5115114
>look at me i'm so pro i had a few big hands

>>5115165

>4p

rizon fags detected

Why so butthurt?

>4players

>mahjong with 4people

Why are 3p players so shitty?

>3p

I can sense much butthurtness of 3pfags lurking in this thread

You can't do this in 4p.

>>5115242

Shut up retard you haven't even gotten a single yakuman in 4p yet

>>5115247

>>5115254
>get Yakuman
>still lose
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>5115242

You can actually. It was posted in an earlier thread.

>>5115254

Oh wow so you played with scrubs that are stupid enough to deal into your hands. All of NoName's screencaps weren't playing against scrubs -- HE'S JUST BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU.

>>5115263

Idiot. You can't declare bonus tiles in 4p.

>>5115271

You have obviously never played 4p.

Did i just hear 4P Open Tanyao?

>>5115276

I've yet to see anybody break my dora record.

Same goes for my ura-dora record.

Jesus Christ...

Why do yo guys play 3P? Seriously.

>>5115290
>>5115280
>3p

lol

>>5115299
>>5115300

I'd be playing 5p if it existed, but since it doesn't, I have to move to the next odd number.

>>5115151
> L7447

There's your problem, friend.

>>5115313
What's with your fascination of odd numbers?

Were you sexually attracted to your mother as a child?

>>5115331

I've got about 200 more of these, NoName. Just because you got lucky in 4p does not make you pro.

>>5115342

>daily KoG metathread

>>5115331

I think it's all about using your "trademark" move and win. I myself have a fascination with Toitoi/SanKanTsu and Rinshans.

>>5115350

All I see is (+99.0), which is a failure to perfection.

>>5115359
my trademark move is dealing into ippatsus

>>5115361
>implying that 100 > doubles

>>5115342

Never said that i was pro. Taking records of 3p "accomplishments" is just pathetic.

>>5115374

Taking screencaps of unblockable 4p tsumos is just as bad. A tsumo is pure luck-based. What >>5114370 is skill-based.

Learn the difference.

>KoG riichis every single yakuman
Christ, you fail to grasp this game.

>>5115393

Of course, because playing in 3p where i could get baimans and sanbaimans in every turn is all about skill.

>>5115410

>implying tsumos are skill-based

I love watching everyone but me getting dominated by the guy sitting next to me in 4P.

>>5115417

Problem, anon? It's a luck based skill.

>>5115422

>luck based skill

>>5115393

I could have screen capped all my "skill based" rons and hell waits but im not that pathetic.

>>5115429

Yes, it's a luck based skill.

>they play 3P mahjong

>>5115442
>>5115437
>>5115422
>>5115410

Grow up and recognize trolling when you see it kid.

>>5115450

Are you frustrated?

>>5115450
GET THE HELL OUT KIRCHEIS

I DIDN'T CALL FOR YOU

>>5115455
>>5115457

>>5115455

Why is 3p so shitty?

So ronery ;_;

>>5115466
Because you play it, KoG

>>5115483
>KoG

No

Oh look who is butthurt again.
I am reporting everyone who uses his name.
It's what you deserve for continuing to play with the fucktard.

>>5115495
>No
>5

>>5115502

It could be worse

>>5115499
>99
nice try kog

>>5115511

>1s and 5s

CONFIRMED

>>5115511
How large is your Dawson collection?

Why is this fag on /jp/ in the first place?

Doesn't he belong on /a/ or something?

RAPE_MAN just got raped.

>>5115534
He was asking for it

>>5115527
Because these retards play with him and give him attention.

>>5115527
>implying that this is the same one as the fags that where on /a/

sadly this ones seems to have played mahjong to troll the other players and started to like the game itself somehow

>>5115524

Small. Lost most of it after formatting my HD

>>5115547
What's your favorite one?

>>5115541
I doubt anyone is autistic and retarded enough to impersonate him, or to even attempt it.

>>5115550

The original one.

>>5115511
>>5115555

Yeah, this isn't suspicious in the slightest.

>>5115555

>1s and 5s
>5555

Why can't we be more like /v/?
So much hate all the time here:(

mahjong threads suck

always become kog cock sucking threads

get out

>>5115567
The 5555 one is me, and I don't give a shit since I'm not you-know-who.

I can't even say his name since it's on my filter along with 20 different variations of it.

>>5115580
20 variations?

>>5115578
What are you smoking?

>>5115578

Because 3p sucks

>>5115583
He changes his name around when he sends the /b/ minions to invade this shithole so it gets around filters. He can get pretty creative.

I hate kog so much!

>>5115580
lying sack of shit.

>>5115598
Why would I bother lying?

Why am I even bothering to reply to you

There, I just beat some fags at 4p, so stop whining about "hurr durr 3p"

>>5115656
nice unstoppable tsumo

>>5115359

My trademark is waiting on a 5

>>5115656
I wish my kans always turned into dora 4

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051315gm-0009-7447-6b609928&tw=1

>>5115659

All of them were in tenpai, so none of them were playing defensively.

>Kinzo deals into Ange's hand 5 times in a row
>my face

One more for 4p!

>4P_SUX puts out a red 5 and leave

Gee, I wonder who that could be...

>>5115679

>>5115656
>L7447

lol

>>5115685

I actually find 7447 harder than 0000. Most of my 4p victories come from 0000.

>>5115689

Depends on the time. I find myself stuck with a bunch of lucky bastards most of the time.

kоg go back to 3p so we can continue to make fun of 3p :(

meh game.

>>5115759
Yeah, I didn't do too great, would've been nice to continue my ren chan, oh well.

>>5115759
Yeah, the fact that "someone" quit kinda ruined it.

Yay Zettai!

>>5115804
BACK to /g/

>>5115878
Chris Gerard or whatever's his name shouldn't have quit

when is this game coming to Xbox Live?

3p or 4p whatever.
4p
1:0
3p
1:0

Get in here faggots.

>>5115888
Never!

>>5115969
all right

I dont like how you faggots keep tsumoing when I was the dealer.

Enough 3p for now.
1more for 4p.

FUUUUUUCK 4p is BORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

>>5116294

4p is boring because a huge amount of the hands you'll get are trash hands that even if you manged to convert into a win before the round ends you'd be getting riichi only or something, so as soon as someone else gets a decent hands everyone else just betaoris until draw or tsumo. It's really boring and almost all the wins aren't even mangan anyways. In 3p, it's relatively easy to get into tenpai quickly even for a mangan hand and I've seen plenty of games where all three players went into riichi with balls. It's just more fun when everyone isn't being defense pricks going for shitty hands.

>>5116617
People who don't defend in 3p are retarded.

>>5116666
Retarded people are what makes the game fun.

>>5116617
>>5116666
You are just giving him a free tsumo if you play defensively at the first sign of a riichii in 3p. Wait reading and playing around it is very important in 3p.

Thing about 4p is, it is very hard to win against a dealer tsumo mangan if everyone play defensively at the first sign of danger.
It isn't easy to make a mangan+ hand with damaten.

>>5116710
I'm too lazy to argue with you.

>>5116617

You just suck at mahjong. Better stay in 3p then.

>>5116729
Yes because people who choose to not play the game to win "suck". I really don't care about finishing first or last, as long as I have fun making some obscene hands. So it's difficult for me to enjoy playing with people who do only play to win even if it's by the thing margin of their 1300 point lead.

>>5116801

You can do both actually. I get my fun from doing big hands, and win. Being shitty makes your chances smaller in doing either.

>>5116806
>implying you can skill your luck like in a rpg

tell me more

That was a pretty close game, I had terrible deals the entire time until that last hand. But thankfully due to everyone going for tanyaos and yakuhais early on even a dealer sub-mangan hand was enough to get me first.

>>5116813

>>5116813

Play in 0 instead of holing in 7447. People actually get better at this game after playing with lots of people, with different styles.

>>5116839
I didn't, I'm 1 dan and still terrible.

oh u guyz

>>5116852

It's easy to get 1 dan. Just play 1 hanchan and use open tanyao/yakuhai every round, 2 days max, or a week if you're really unlucky.

>>5116870
That's better than I am. It took me about 16 months to get 1 dan, playing maybe 5 games a week or two.

Your rank doesn't mean shit, the rating is the important thing

>>5116969
pretty much this, if you get it down, it can be pretty hard to climb back up

>>5116969
Rating doesn't means shit, you can hit 2000+ by the time you get shodan, if you know how to play.

>>5117011
>if you know how to play
that's why it actually means something?

>>5117011
>Rating doesn't means shit, you can hit 2000+ by the time you get shodan, if you know how to play.

So you honestly believe that a 1500 Shodan and 2000 Shodan are equal?

>>5117049
You can't be 初段 with R2000 without leveling up, so it's probably some guy that got there through luck.

The R1500 guy has managed to keep his place for a very long time and is an unbeatable veteran that can switch tiles faster than your mother can change your diapers.

>>5117030
Knows how to play =/= good player.

I got banned while trying to register account on pon palace, what the hell?

>>5117081
Contact junk@ponpalace.com.

Let's Play!

Fuck this shit. It's too dependent from luck.

Had serveral accounts. Max. was 2 Dan.

Once i hit 2 Dan i kept losing several matches. I stopped playing for a while and then again with 1 Dan and so on.

one more

>>5117693

You just suck at mahjong, faggot.

>>5117735
Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens.

Hi guys.
Can someone tell me how does ranking (or however it's called) work? I mean the numbers you get depending on your placing (eg +20.00 for getting 2nd place)

>>5117735
Hurrrr. I don't listen to wannabe fags.

>>5117750
Not me here, but i agree.

>>5117760
What you mean?

>>5117796
I mean after finishing a game, when the final score is presented, people are assigned a number, which looks to be between +100 and -100.
How is that calculated?

>>5117809
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_scoring_rules#Final_points_and_place

>>5117809
After the game is finished, the number of points which each of three players other than the winner has is rounded off to the nearest 1,000. The winner's points are the difference between 120,000 (30,000 × 4) and the total of these three players' points. The number of points is divided by 1,000, and 30 is finally subtracted from it. The sum of these final points is always zero. In most cases there are some additional points of awards or penalties related to the players' final place. (For example: 1st gets +20, 2nd gets +10, 3rd gets -10 and 4th gets -20)

Example: The initial points are 25,000 each. A (winner): 43,600, B: 14,500, C: 15,400, D: 26,500, and rounded off to B:15,000, C:15,000, D:27,000. The number of the winner's points is calculated as follows irrespective of initial points: 120,000 − (15,000 + 15,000 + 27,000) = 63,000 (There sometimes happens the case like this. The result of the winner differs from 64,000 that was counted rounding 43,600 off and adding 4 × 5,000 (difference between 30,000 and initial points)). The final points and place: A:+33 (1st), D:−3 (2nd), C:−15 (3rd), B:−15 (4th). The 1st place is also counted like: (30 − 15) + (30 − 15) + (30 − 27) = +33.

>>5117815
Why are scoring rules so obscenely complicated in mahjong?

>>5117815
>>5117814
Thanks guys, I couldn't find them in the guides I have.

>>5117815
Who win again incase of a tie?

>>5117820
Because it is gambling.

Scores -> money

>>5117844
Whoever sits closer to original dealer.

Olololol. Dropped from over R1600 back to under R1500.

>>5117906
R1500? My 4p rating is just barely over R1400 (brought it back up from R1250ish) and my 3p rating is around R1100.

>>5117893