/jp/ - Otaku Culture

update where
CLANNAD where
TA where
LB where
KW where
AB where
Rewrite where

>>5092130
EF1 where.

>>5092130
Thanks for spoiling a Eternal Fighter Zero thread.
Reported.

Sure is no IPs at all, host?

Yes OP, host.

>>5092180
>>5092184
Can't host. Sorry.

>>5092194
Then we're off to a good start then.

So glad this piece of history's kicked off again.
It's alright, /jp/, I'll host for you.

72.161.234.146
port 7500
US East, lagfests welcome
Which is fine, because lag makes spamming 214B on wakeup so much easier.

For best results, use this netplay version:
http://poverty.mizuumi.net/efzstuff/EFZdotNET_EX_011_Beta_Debug_fs5.zip

Enjoy, friends.

>>5092130
Needs an update patch with all these characters.

Also Youko from Moon; my butt is literally mad because she has the very first loading screen but isn't even playable.

>>5092273
Why an update? EFZ needs a sequel, not a patch, currently, it even breaks colors in 7.

>>5092225
PRO MASHING LEAGUE: MASH EDITION

Hi again there alphabet, you sure are fun as shit to play against. So many moments, my god.
That one finish where you caught me in a super a few seconds after I used L-Range Mio's 236C then OUT OF NOWHERE the arrow flies out in the middle of it and ended the round has to have been the greatest fightan finish I've ever seen, haven't laughed that hard in years.

Oh man, I love this game so much because it's actually possible to dick around in due to its age. Nobody wants to tourneyfag this shit anymore so there's no pressure on how well you do; it really is a wonderful feeling.
That said, using Sayuri still makes me feel really really terrible because it doesn't seem like most characters can do shit against her, generally speaking. But hey, I main Nu.

Aw well, GGs bro. Maybe I'll host again in a little while.

>>5092560
Well okay, I can just do that now.

>>5092225
Rehosting.

>>5092930
Okay, there we go. I'd just left a bunch of shit running because I didn't think anyone was going to connect for like an hour; on top of that I didn't think doing so would hurt too much. SURPRISE, IT DID.

MY BAD.
Rehosting, should be fine now, sorry 'bout that.

>>5093086
Can you play as Sayuri again please.

>>5093212
Oh, sure. Love that you had to close to do that though.
Goddamn, old games are the best.

Rehosted.

>>5093216
GGs and such again, friend.
I don't plan to do too much today so I guess I'll just stop by every once in a while for some rehost despite knowing that only one player will ever be waiting because there's not a snowball's chance in hell that any other anons will care enough to keep this poor thread alive.
And maybe an old doujin game scene can arise out of this, including VagPov and such. We never know.

Anyway, keep working at it until you can keep my dumb bitch from wallslamming you. She's weak to crossup, just fyi.
And most of all, have fun.

>>5093513
What's a crossup.

>>5093528
Herp. Jumping over your opponent and hitting him when he's guarding on the wrong side. You're a retard, by the way. Well, no, sorry, a scrub.

>>5093528
http://www.shoryuken.com/wiki/index.php/Glossary
>The type of attack that can hit the opponent behind you when you jump over them. Attacks that have Cross-Up potential generally have long hitboxes that extend downwards underneath a character, instead of in front.

>>5093528
You are a scrub, and a noob as well.

>this thread

>>5093539
It's funny that you think I bothered to play beyond arcade SFI & SFII. Unless you're Tree, which I'm not highly doubting, but I hope not, you are the retard.

>>5093540
I see. Certainly see none of those attacks work at that ping.

.>>5093565
Noob? What's with the sudden kids in this Thread...

>>5093601
Are you insinuating that SFII did not have cross-ups? If that is true, your argument is ludicrous and in no way furthers your position.

>>5093617
No? And why would I argue about that? I played them casually.

Also, stop shitting this Thread please.

>>5093601
Wasn't me, just to confirm here. I've seen all the negative effects of dropping the S-bomb in fightan threads and don't want it to happen again in one I actually like.

That said, pulling anything off in that ping is pretty silly because specials turn into supers constantly and vice versa; plus 6321463214A? Never fucking happening. I swear I tried like 50 times and the only one of those in which it actually worked was a random from fullscreen when I didn't expect it to. At least my beloved fullscreen grab is only really useful as a hitconfirm from 5C, so even if the input gets dropped I still hit you with a fucking piledriver.
BUT I've played entire matches of this at 8 fps though, so I'm not complainin'.

>>5093617
Our friend Alphabet is insinuating that he doesn't play fightan often; nothing more, nothing less.
If you're going to hate on people just because they're casuals, do it in IaMP threads or something.

Actually, I did play games like Guilty Gear seriously, so did I play EFZ before, I know what you're talking about. If we were to talk about my life with crossups, I just played arcada SF with my brothers when I was a kid, then I tried SFIV, mainly Vega/Sagat.

>>5093660
Other than the obvious, I'm not too fond of playing EFZ with this ping Tree, when I played with EUs the game wasn't eternal...I second everything you said, because my opinion doesn't differ at all.

I'll just enjoy playing with you however I can.

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

/jp/ sure loves shitty doujin fighters

>>5095709
Of course.

.

Well alright, I guess I'll rehost one more time for tonight.
Only host in the thread thus far but that's okay, I'll go ahead and repost my IP so you don't have to do a mild amount of scrolling.

72.161.234.146
7500
I miss playing games popular enough to where player tiers exist tier
US Central
etc etc

Also my main makes me angrier than she's going to make you, I guarantee it.

>>5097272
Well this is working out well. Using the fs5 client, right?

>>5097272
All that crashing probably has to do with the fact that I switched versions earlier, gimme a sec to switch it back then I'll rehost again.
Didn't think anyone was going to show up at all, was about to dehost in just a minute too.

>>5097618
I was, then after the first crash switched to the other one and it, uh, crashed some more.
fs5 or no?

>>5097631
Keep using the fs5. A lot less lag that way.

>>5097636
Okay, fs5'd and rehosted. Sorry about that.

>>5097643
GGs. The other person I usually play with got a 10 fps increase with the fs5 client, but it didn't turn out so well with that. Fun games though.
As advice, try using 2A after your wallslam->dash->dash thing so it's a high-low mixup instead of a high-mid not-so-mixup.

>>5097643
Well alright, GGs. I was thoroughly convinced there was only one actual player besides myself who ever lurked the corridors of /jp/ these days.
And with that one other player being EU, it feels pretty shameful that I'm still letting the ping turn my 236s into 623s and vice versa, but that's something that may improve with time.

But still pro as ever, I see. I'm gonna need to take Mio lessons from you again some other time, maybe snatch that aircombo like I did with everything Magister used in SWR, hurrhur or something.
I'd want to start maining her as much as possible when these shitty old doujin fightan netplay threads pop up because I just hate the feeling of being able to mash out 41236C to get out of anything.
Speaking of which, the flow of ICs is starting to make more sense especially considering how it's not so much different from other fightans, but with Sayuri when am I supposed to be doing it? I thought it'd be a cool idea to IC in the middle of a blocked wallslam but uh, you saw how well that turned out. Guess I'll get the hang of it after a while.

>>5097909
>try using 2A after your wallslam->dash->dash thing
>try using 2A
>2A

Spoken like a true Meltan player. But I'll keep it in mind, thanks; I figured doing it like that would be a bit too obvious so I'd try to mixup into something less predictable, but maybe I'll switch around so that can work on occasion.

Ah well, thanks a bunch for the games, beautiful learning experience.
And you have a wonderful night, /jp/.

>>5097967
I just steal combos from the japs anyway so take them, they're not mine.

>with Sayuri when am I supposed to be doing it? I thought it'd be a cool idea to IC in the middle of a blocked wallslam but uh, you saw how well that turned out.
This is good if you delay the IC slightly after a Recoil Guarded wallslam or 623A. Reason being that the opponent will most likely try to counter attack. IC it, look at the reaction in the small time you have, if it looks like they're counter attacking, 2141236 it, always wins out. If they're not, continue with Sayuri's not so good pressure anyway or run.
Other than that, save it up for blue IC and learn some good combos, like the 623C IC combo.

>Spoken like a true Meltan player
More like 2A actually hits low. You could use 5B as well since it's the only other low-hitting move Sayuri has.
>I'd try to mixup into something less predictable,
While I certainly wasn't expecting 5A, it makes it no less harder to block.

People use Mio?!

>>5098030
Mio more like TOP-TIER

>>5098049
Like all fun characters are. ;_;

>>5092194
>>5092184
>>5092180

>host
WTF holy shit, I love this game and I never knew it had netplay support, Thanks /jp/ I am elated!

Game is a lot better than Hisoutensoku.

Fuck i love this game, its such a shame im asstastic

>>5098203
So is everybody else here except >>5098025; nothing to be afraid of, friend.
Pick it up, be a flaming casual and have fun. This isn't MvC2, it's not an old game that people still play just so they can completely dominate newscrubs. Everyone who was actually good at it disappeared long ago because there's no serious tournament scene or anything.
Start playing, pick a loli, mash some buttons. Worst thing that could happen is that you'll lose matches, in which case you can find it hilarious how stupid the thing you did that lost you the match was. I know I do that all the time.

Inb4 fightan tourneyfag comes in and claims that only scrubs play games for fun. Again.

>>5098030
I thought /jp/ hated Mio and that one other retarded girl from ONE.

71.239.120.197
i have a game up, someone try to join

My colors are all fucked up, damned windows 7 compatibility modes don't work.

>>5098327
Still waiting
71.239.120.197

>>5098355
Psh, i got all excited to play my favorite 3rd rate VN heroines in a fighting game for nothing.

>>5098327
>>5098355
>impatient after 4 minutes

Oh no no no, this isn't a popular game, there are at most 5 players that actively play this in the entirety of /jp/ and finding more than one online at any given time is ridiculously unlikely. You'll more than likely end up waiting 7 hours or more for a connection so turn your volume up and go make a sandwich or something.
In fact, you could probably run a deli and complete an entire day's work before you get a connection while hosting, that's how quickly you're going to find somebody here. No, really.

I'd play you but now I have a bunch of shit running and the last time I tried that it just plain crashed before getting to the start menu.
Best of luck though, anon. Also it may not be a bad idea to clarify what version of the netplay client you're using to prevent crashes.

I might get into this game... Just one question, how laggy is the online play? I don't mind slight button delay, or slight frame drops or anything like that.

>>5098409
Im using the client from the OP post, i didnt really change anything.

>>5098416
What most will say is an exaggeration, it's not that bad.
I get 60+ fps from anything under 200 ping and still about 40 or so from US-EU, which isn't bad at all. In the latter case sure, there are a bunch of input drops and inputting 623 to see it turn into 236 and vice versa is a common thing, but it's nothing ridiculous and desync doesn't seem to happen as often as other fightan netplays, especially the godawful early builds for LunaPort. Which says a lot considering this is supposedly still in beta or whatever, not that anyone will ever care to update it. ;_;

>>5098421
As you may notice in >>5097618 and subsequent posts, the fs5 version is better for ironing out lag so if you crash immediately upon the game opening then your opponent's probably running that one. It's a good idea to have both handy, sure, but I can assure you that you'll run into players using fs5 more often.
I think.

>>5098067
me again...how do i use? same folder? drag and drop? or err something else cause the read me didn't help...

Mah waifu Misaki has a the bison slide thing, but her jab is so slow =(

>>5098451
Typical caster format, cut-paste the contents of the folder you extracted into your EFZ folder. Or copypaste/drag-drop, whatever floats your boat I guess.
After that you can edit the lang_0 file to change your playername and all that shit; don't forget to change where it says 'communication port' if the host says they're hosting on a specific port besides 88, or if you're the host and you decide 88 is a shit port and you'd rather go with something that looks cool like 6666. I'm looking at you, ZomB.

>>5098451
Put the netplay stuff in your extracted EFZ folder, run the netplay exe, and you are done, default controls seem to be set to basic controller settings, did not figure out how to change them

>>5098451
71.239.120.197 is still open.

how do i put the game into window mode

>>5098528
Dunno, i dont think theres an option in the moon runes

So if i join a netplay, it'll go huge and take up the entire screen?

>>5098541
From what ive seen playing the CPU, yes. Also its likely the color pallete will be slightly off.

207.47.201.79

I'll give this a try, even though i suck. Hope it works

broke it

>>5098583
Latency was like super, high, then it crashed at the start =(

71.239.120.197
US Midwest

>>5098596
Ill give it another 10 minutes up before i gotta go.

think i missed a few patches, alot of the mirrors on the official site are broken.

itt 2005

>>5098610
You mean theres more to download besides what OP linked? fuuuuuu

207.47.201.79

wc

76.29.15.231
Midwest

it's a fighting game?

fuuuuuuuuck

i want a god damn anime beat-em-up

>>5098769
Most epic lagfest ever. I only picked characters from VNs ive actually read, results were obviously poor, as i could not figure out the specials at all

Oh it crashed, how strange.

Rehosting
>>5098865

Alot of lag in this game no matter who connects. I'll stick to SWR. Fun games though, i had no clue about any of the moves.

>>5098865
Well, I guess that's it. Good games.

Anybody know how to play this in a window? Whenever I play this fullscreen my colors are all inverted and messed up.

>>5099131
oh and I'll host games a lot for this if I can get this working correctly.

>>5099131
I downloaded it awhile ago and it essentially gave me the same issue. Haven't figured out what the issue is. Do you have W7 as well? Wondering if its the OS in which case I'd have to load up my XP machine and hope it works there.

>>5092123

>>5099270
fuck you Mugen.

>>5099252
It might be a win7 issue. Its not the only game that does it to me, zdaemon also gives me inverted colors. 64b btw

>>5099299
32 here but I've had that issue with a couple other games too. Starcraft being the main culprit.

>>5099299
>>5099325
Forgot to mention, tried running it in compatibility mode but that doesn't seem to do anything.

>>5099325
I see. I'm tempted to just buy an old pc just for xp with old games. It's really annoying that I can't get this to run in a window. Shortcut -w didn't work either.

>>5099338
Ya, I can't seem to alt-tab either which is how I get Starcraft to fix itself sometimes oddly enough.

I think I'll try starting my XP machine. Should work there hopefully, if not it might be some other issue.

>>5099338
You could always try using Windows XP mode if you're running Win 7 professional.

>>5099359
Best character in the game.

>>5098874
>>i want a god damn anime beat-em-up

You mean like Tomoyo Fighter or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwlN0OODi7g

Everything that has to do with broken colors is Aero's fault. To disable it, you should kill all instances of explorer.exe with task manager before running EFZ as new task.

>>5099508
Hooray, Tohno's back.

>>5099570
Aero shouldn't be on for anyone anyways. You can change it by going Control Panel -> Personalization.

Windows Classic theme + blank wallpaper/background = tons of less errors for everything in the long run.

Anyone hosting?

I MERK ALL U NIGGAS UP AHAHAHAH

can i use my TE stick on this

>>5099998
What.

is there any fucking male characters in this shit

>>5100023
...

>>5100026
sageru all you want but you will never crush my british merkage

>>5100023
He is Unlockable Secret Character...

>>5100023
No, that's why you should play a good game, like Fatal Fury Special.

>>5100023
Nope. Deal with it, nerd. Our last EFZ offline meet up was a great success.

Pic related I am the guy in green watching some top tier Ikumi and Mio players.

>>5100050
>fatal fury special
oh you mean real bout fatal fury 2?

>>5100055
>Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
Oh you mean Counter-Strike Source?

>>5100059
you mean modern warefare 2

>>5100063
You mean Final Fantasy Tactics?

so i downloaded this shti when do i start merking some niggas

>>5100070
I dunno man but welcome to the /jp/ friend circle

>>5099998
Yeah probably
>>5100023
Not even
>>5100070
you start up that netplay client, host, post your IP and hope someone connects in like, ever.

>>5100090

>>5100117
>Tatari !JERKwzbfbg
Will you sign the GET WELL SOON card I made for Sion???

>>5100129
I don't need to, I spent the evening with him.

>>5100158
Oh right me and you went to the hospital together to visit him :)

Anyone willing to host?

>>5101144
Anything for my beloved /jp/.

72.161.234.146
port 7500, fs5 client
US Central, wallslam tier

>>5101290
I'm going to do something, we can play, maybe in 2h max.

By the way, I "enjoyed" how your spin special didn't disable my recovery, yet the bar kept decreasing it with each hit. Mashan gaems.

>>5101290
Done so soon, Alphabet?
GGs then, hot damn you gave my Mayu a hard time; keep in mind that I'm not only fishing for approaches constantly - ie. waiting for you to whiff something so I can safely march in there and punch your face in - but I fish for RGs too in close range, just so I can buffer a command grab. I fucking love this game and its 41236 command grabs.

Plus, taking DamageDesu's advice to 2A after wallslamming was hella efficient but jesus christ it makes me feel like a huge asshole. To counteract that feeling, every time you get wallslammed BLOCK LOW ON WAKEUP. If you do that the worst I can do is mash 2A a bunch of times then mash out another wallslam in hopes that you've stopped blocking.
Well, I guess that's not the WORST thing I could do, but that's the worst I probably ever will do unless I were to become a tourneyfag or something. Which will not happen here.

>>5101378
>Mashan gaems.

Never has there been a truer statement.
By the way, did you try to connect twice and crash the first time, or was that someone else? Because if the first attempt was some other anon you're totally welcome to try again as I'll just leave this rehosting all day; make sure you're running the fs5 netplay client as opposed to the other one and followed the instructions in the netplay section of OP's wiki link.

That said,
>>5101290
Rehostan.

Trying to open fs5. "Could not open or read a specified file."

>>5101403
More like you mix it up by airdashing just a bit longer to give you a jump overhead, or cut the airdash just a bit shorter to get a low attack.

>>5101470
Did you put the netplay client and everything it came with in the same folder as the EFZ.exe file?

>>5101478
That worked. The readme is not helpful.

>>5101403
GGs, but damn that lag, I was messing up all my combos and okis. I think I'm better off hosting for the EU myself:
hosting 84.56.231.220 EU
port 7500
fs5 client here: http://poverty.mizuumi.net/efzstuff/

>>5101489
That's the standard method for netplay/caster programs, keep it in mind. Always has to be the same as the game folder.

>>5101403
I knew the name/etc not being a/b/c meant something.
GGs, but as you can see I'm not the super tourneyfag god the lengths of my paragraphs more than likely imply; still had a lot of fun laughing at my dumb mistakes, though. I got so pampered on opponents that just let themselves get wallslammed left and right that I almost forgot players exist that actually, you know, block it. Rushdown and crossup, major weak points of mine, I'll need to work on them very much so. That and, uh, actually learning aircombos; tossing with a command grab then jumping without knowing what to do just looks really, really silly. It feels as silly as it looks, too.

Thanks for the games though brah, maybe I'll rehost in a while.

Messing around, US East
74.109.61.130
Port 7500? Fuck if I know.

>>5101706
Getting no response on either port 7500 or the default port 88.

>>5101722
Same.

>>5101706
Edit your lang_0 file, scroll down to 'communication port,' and make sure it says 106=7500. While you're at it, make sure you've actually forwarded port 7500 UDP too.

>>5101706
Did the lang thing. Trying again.

>>5101738
Still not working. Make sure windows firewall isn't messing it up, that you've actually forwarded port 7500 UDP, or that you pressed enter and are actually hosting.
Don't know what else would be wrong off the top of my head.

>>5101738
Still nothing. Do you know if you actually have 7500 forwarded or not? Furthermore, did you save the file after editing it?

Because I can totally host if you still can't get it working.
In fact, I don't think it'll hurt to just do that anyway.
72.161.234.146
7500 central etc

>>5101753
I already had 7500 open for melty. I also made the client an exception for windows firewall.

The client says my address is 192.168.0.7 (which is my connection to the router) but I don't see an option to change it. Still hosting.

>>5092121
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>>5101755
GGs Tree. Can't seem to do the Mio combos I want, so I gave up, sorry. But in any case, Mio should be switching between far and close ranged pretty much all the time. The recovery time on change is fast, and you can save it for after big recovery moves so you can make your attacks safe. Close range 236236 is on oki only, IC it to be safe and pressure while the pots are falling, 214214 is only for high damage combos if you happen to learn them. Far range has some weird combos but all of them require switching to close range midcombo, so get used to using the D button.

Your Sayuri is getting better, but when I said 623 I actually meant 623A. I guess 623B works too sometimes. Now if you could mix up the dash->dash hi-low mixup with throws or her EX throw, it'd be even better. Sayuri doesn't have much in the way of mixups, so you have to work with what little you have.

>>5101755
That crash was my bad, sorry about that. Client's rehosting but I'll go ahead and start typing a long GG message anyway.

First off, FUCK YOU I DON'T WANT STARS I WANT WALLSLAM
THIS FUCKING GAME

Now that I got that out, I think there's some slim chance I may be getting somewhere with your Mio lessons and such; what I've learned thus far is j.5B 66 j.5B j.5C~ whatever and to not use 214A/B/C in S-mode because it's trash, as well as to use 623A/B/C sparingly because it's also trash besides occasional use as a DP. I swear tasofro only put that shit there to fuck up players trying to do Indiana Jones so that everybody else has a chance against tourneyfag Mios. I swear EVERY FUCKING TIME I'd input 236 and get that instead, it's like a free 50%.
Speaking of which, in those first few matches did you really do like 30% with just chip damage? REALLY? That shit had me yelling at my screen, I knew there was a chance to mash a wallslam or something after because I blocked the super then the screen started fading. In fact, all those got pretty vocal, but I guess that just means you're a good player.

Thanks for the games if you're done, DD. Valuable experience blah blah blah I think I'll just go ahead and rehost anyway. Also remind me later and I'll make a Sayuri flowchart filled with 'wallslam' assuming it doesn't exist already.

Rehostan.

>>5102206
>not use 214A/B/C in S-mode
It's extremely situational, but at least the EX version is comboable.
>use 623A/B/C sparingly
There's a nice thing with her 623 if you delay it after, say, 663C. Cancel time is large, so you do DP if you expect them to mash out of your slide, it'll usually catch them.

>Speaking of which, in those first few matches did you really do like 30% with just chip damage?
Nope. This is one of Kaori's specials which is unblockable. 2 hits, doesn't matter if you block or RG the first, the 2nd will hit. Only way to get out of it is: 1) don't get hit by it or 2) RG the first hit and use some invincible special, works sometimes.

>>5102205

>I guess 623B works too sometimes.
Right, 623A is for approaches. 623B I try to hitconfirm into IC wallslam, and it's safe on block because I can just ditch the IC and do whatever. At least, that's normally how it goes. Also those 236A+jump-in high-low mixups are fucking sick, if I remember I'll start using those a hell of a lot more often.

>Close range 236236 is on oki only
Or never at all if I can help it, but at our ping the inputs love reading that from 236B 236A, as in the whip drag-in. More than likely I'm just mashing it out too fast because I can guarantee I'm not watching the buttons too much. Hurr durr, there's one more thing to work on.

>214214 is only for high damage combos if you happen to learn them.
Oh yeah, I know those, only half of the problem is the ping and the other half is that I just draw blanks in the middle of actual matches and forget what I was doing, which is actually a lot of my problem in not just fightan but ordinary mundane tasks. But you know, that's a story for another time.

>Far range has some weird combos but all of them require switching to close range midcombo, so get used to using the D button.
Can do, sir. Those switch combos are weird as fuck, but I'll work with them.

Until next time.

>>5102206
Alright, didn't think so.
Dehosted for now so I can go outside, but I'll be back in a few hours to save the poor thread considering there aren't any other players.

;_;

>>5102372
Just got home
I'll keep my eye on this thread till you get back, I'mma check back every once in a while...

>>5102712
Funny story, I just got home too. Think you'd be up for a few?
If so, 72.161.234.146
If not, 72.161.234.146 anyway; might as well host all day since there's nothing better to do.
7500 and fs5, of course.

>>5102767
cool right on

>>5102776
>>5102767
...no response
I input your ip in the program exacly as you typed it,
also im new to this (netplay not EFZ )

>>5102819
Edit your lang_0 file and under where it says 'communication port' make sure it says "106=7500" or something to that effect.

While you're at it, make sure you have all the options configured like http://poverty.mizuumi.net/index.php/EFZ_Netplay will tell you and that you're using the client from http://poverty.mizuumi.net/efzstuff/EFZdotNET_EX_011_Beta_Debug_fs5.zip as opposed to the one that can be found at OP's link. After all that, you should be set.

>>5102834
ok thanks, setting that all up now

>>5102834
Thanks bro I had and insane amount of fun!
Some of those matches...It hard to believe what transpired in some of those matches. Thanks again man!

>>5102767
>double KO

Holy hell, I didn't even know this game had those. It's been forever since I've had this much fun, great fucking games. Unless you're really intent on being anon, slap on a playername in that lang_0 file and I'll remember you, you are definitely no stranger to fightan.

Goddamn, there are so many moments I wish I could bring up but each one got replaced by a better one until eventually by the end it was pretty painfully obvious that we'd started dicking around and playing characters we normally don't use -- I was hoping you'd get my hint to do a Kanna mirror for shits and giggles but apparently you didn't so I had to do it on my own, hurrhurr, sorry about that. I'd heard all the rumors that she wasn't changed from her boss version and was banned from tourneyfag play but I had yet to actually see her in action besides arcade mode. Durp.

Holy fuck, that was what, 3 hours? I think it's about time for a break now, but thanks a bunch for the games, friend. I'll never forget them, nor will I ever forget the fact that I got less than 200 ping for once; remind me next time and I'll set the delay to 4 so maybe we can get 60+ fps instead of 50-55. And what was up with those times when it went down to 20 or so? Was that on my side or yours?

Anyway, Tree out. Have a nice life, /jp/.

>>5104212
same same man, have a good one

EFZ lagged quite a bit last time I tried to play it with a couple of bros, but I have no clue why. Other games like soku and Melty are working fine.

>>5104259
efz netplay sucks. It's also an 8 year old game.

Alright, might as well go ahead and host one more time tonight. My IP's right there plus it's been posted like fifty times already, but nobody likes scrolling and I know whoever's going to connect is going to be somebody I've played a bunch of times today anyway so here:
72.161.234.146
7500, fs5
WALLSLAMS

>>5105536

Your name(32 maximum for unicode characters):
so I just type a name in here this space say... L.K.
is that how it works?

>>5106014
...Life is a trial for you, isn't it?

>>5104455
It's an 8 year old game that's much better than any of the other shit /jp/ has ever played except IaMP.

>>5106038
Even swr is better than efz. Melty Blood hovers miles over this game.

>>5106037
Yes, yes it is but, I make up for it with Patience, Kindness, Humility, Temperance, and Charity...still working on the other 2.

>>5106038
>>5106069
All doujin fighters are shit

>>5106037
truthfully it saying "Unicode characters" threw me for a loop of which I'm still in...

>>5106147
...I'mma just play now, I'll figure it out...never or later

But other fighting games dont have my waifu.

>I hate this, you should hate this too
>I like this, you should like this too

>>5098303
Mio is awesome (second favorite ONE character after Akane, IMO).

Mayu is shit.

>>5105536
Good games Tree. That's enough EFZ for me tonight.

>>5105536
See? I told you. WALLSLAMS.
Truth be told I admire your effort pretty strongly to stop my wallslam nonsense after you figured out my secrets. Even more truth be told I wish I could punch myself in the face for doing it. Oh wait, I can.

Anyway! GGs, friend, I probably would've disappeared after a couple more if you hadn't because I have had waaaay too much of this for today, great underrated fightan or not. One question, though: 'Duck' doesn't by chance imply Duckator, does it? You know, just curious.

And not to be coaching or anything, but while a bunch of those matches got pretty intense and you do know what you're doing for the most part, you really really need to work on being a lot more patient from what I can tell. Plenty of times rounds would finish because you'd keep going after moves were block while I was just fishing for a chance to reversal, and let's not even go into that round with Kano where every spell hit and I had plenty of time to normal-recharge every one of them. Sure, I can't say a whole lot for myself getting hit by that Last Memory (which was awesome both times, I might add) but overall I got away with a bunch of things that I shouldn't have.

Snazzy exiting phrase, /jp/.

>>5106199
>Your name(32 maximum for unicode characters):
>
>100="Name"

It got me too for a while, don't worry.

>>5106567
>'Duck' doesn't by chance imply Duckator does it?
It does.

>you really really need to work on being a lot more patient from what I can tell.
You're right, I should block a bit more, especially since I don't really know what I'm doing in this game. Besides it's not like you ever try to grab me or anything, with the exception of Mayu of course.

>>5106592
thanks

>>5106661
>it's not like you ever try to grab me or anything

#hisouten is now hype for EFZ

>>5107145
Yeah but that's blockable.

Guess I'll try my hand at this sometime soon, it seems like it could be fun.

Would've been nice if it were vagpov making the comeback, but I guess this is fine too. ;_;

bump

>>5109473
Thank you, kind anon. I wouldn't've been awake in time to save the poor thread.

>>5107491
That's what you said a week ago you fuck, hurry up and learn another Meilingesque Aggressiverusher or something so you can be a tourneyfag again. And don't worry, I'll push VagPov once this fades completely; it's just a temporary revival and we all know it.

Aaaanyway, time to hostan for a few hours:
72.161.234.146
7500 fs5 US WALLSLAMS

>>5107491
I like Vanguard also

>>5109968
i'll be back to challenge you after I eat if no ones challeged you yet...if so have fun.
I'm going with the name L.K.dice (and some dice)

>>5110150
Whoa, not sure what made that happen. Probably because it's been sitting around for so long, or maybe even because I set the delay at 4 instead of the 3 from last time. Hurr, let's try that again-- you are still using the fs5 client, right?

>>5110200
Sorry I had to go help my family real quick, wanna play again?

>>5110677
Oh yeah sure, rehosting then. I was in the middle of a longass GG message but I guess that can wait until later.

Also I WILL DO THAT SUPER. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT I'LL DO IT, AND I WILL REJOICE WHEN IT HAPPENS.

Hosting
84.56.231.220:7500 fs5 EU, EC welcome too

>>5110688
Shitbroke, sorry, that was me. I'm up again unless you're finished because, you know, I STILL have yet to pull that thing off. My butt's bordering on being mad.

>>5111050
nah I got some stuff to get done, cya around bro, had a lot of fun again, thanks.

>>5111066
Alright, thanks a bunch, GGs. Dehosting then because, now that I think about it, I do too. Next time we're going to see the full version of 462314C, I guarantee it.

Also, one other thing to note, that Kano magic-spamming bullshit... is really bullshit. I'd thought that when it worked so well on Duckator and some others it was just their specific playstyles, but now that I realize it's just really dumb and hard to get out of; one hit and you're pinned for the whole round. I apologize for doing that, really, I'd probably leave a hole in a wall from my controller if that happened to me. Actually I still want to because just seeing that on a screen makes me angry, similar effect with the wallslam spam but not quite as much. Uh, my bad.

Let's see, what else is there? Forgot it all. Uhh, FMs are cool, something about some matchup, something else looked cool but I lost it. Let's just do this again sometime, 'kay?
3 hours at a time is bad for your health but I don't care when it's this much fun.

Also,
>>5110150
So after seeing my Mayu it'll be no surprise when I tell you that I main Kaede, right?

So I decided to give this game a try and already I'm raging. On the first level in arcade mode the computer picked some leaping lunatic who just jumped from screen edge to screen edge and kicked.

>>5111178
If the amount of 214Bs AI Mayu does is enough to annoy you then... I don't want to break it to you, you'll find out eventually.

>>5111194
I swear the AI is written in a way to make me mad. I enjoyed some success after switching to the sword rabbit girl, but then got my ass handed to me by some ice scarf character who simply dropped ice balls onto my head if I air dashed, lasered me if I ground dashed, and then played scarf slap keep away when I finally got into range.

>>5111274
ICE SCARF

You should look for Giant Tree someday then; occasionally I'll pick her and play rushdown just so I can say I'm playing rushdown with a zoning character. Half the time, it works.

Also, you're gonna love Kanna.

>>5111304
Which one is Kanna? I'll give her a try

>>5111311
I meant on arcade mode; she's the final boss.
And like most fightan final bosses she's designed to be bullshit and will likely make you snap your controller/keyboard/whatever in half if all these other things are making you angry.

Furthermore, her playable version is unmodified from her boss version so you can mash with her and fuck a tourneyfag's shit up. Unsurprisingly, she's banned from all competitive play over in the land of moonrunes and even in netplay here nobody ever uses her because it's just not fun.
Kanna mirrors, on the other hand, are something totally else. Everyone should try it at least once.

>>5111329
Kanna CPU is so easy if you just know how to tickthrow.

>this game

Anyone up? I need to test to see if I did this right/get my ass kicked because I'm horrible at fightan.

76.28.244.101:7500
West Coast, first time tier

>>5112239
>Spend ~an hour on average hosting every time
>stop running various programs to play Guy
>Guy gets connection within 5 minutes

Fuck you, /jp/.
Well, I already have it open, might as well play some more for the hell of it.

72.161.234.146
WALLSLAMS

207.47.201.79

scrub

>>5112239
That lag made it sorta hard to enjoy the fightan. Good games, though.

>>5112239
GGs. EU to WC sadly isn't that playable

I guess I have to play this game now [/spoiler] since no one plays hisouten anymore[/spoiler].

>>5112455
I, for one, am glad /jp/ has the sense to play good games. Even all the soku players are crossing over now.

>>5112317
GGs, love. To be able to do that kind of nonsense after only have played for a few minutes, you'll be fine in this wonderful wallslam world of ours.
Of course, you'll need to build up that wallslam tolerance a little more, but the best way to do that is to just rub up against a wall for hours at a time; do it while playing, too, for best results. Slam yourself into that wall so hard that it leaves a dent in the shape of your figure, that's how you know you're becoming resistant to wallslams.
In actuality, though, the only way to get out of Sayuri wallslam bullshit is to guess mixup and, truth be told, you've figured that out a hell of a lot faster than most have.

Keep up dat grapplan, maybe even try out some more of the cast and find someone else you like if you can, etc etc. Also I couldn't pull off that level 3 UNKNOWN super on you either, so that says something. Actually it's luck-based, so all it says is that you're lucky, but you know, you don't have to think too much into that. I mean really, I don't even like the character, I just like that one super. It's the best fucking thing ever.

AND have a great day, maybe I'll rehost sometime soon. Actually I might just rehost now.
... Naaaaah.

I wish I was good enough at fighters to play this game, but alas, I'm absolutely terrible at everything I play. Might give it a go anyway.

>>5112820
>stating efz is good
What are

>tree
nevermind

>>5112820
This game is weird. Regular throws are absurdly difficult to execute properly, and command throws have a big enough wind-up that they're almost impractical too. 2A mashing actually seems sorta strong in this game.

I'm used to something like Guilty Gear where you can do silly stuff like wake-up throw or air-throw people out of attacks. Eventually I'll get the timing for Doppel down and do a full grab chain, though; I can only get as far as the beat-your-face-into-the-pavement part.

>>5112838
Hardly anybody except Guy is at a tourneyfag level in this, so there's nothing to worry about. There are a few who are pretty gdlk but even they are bros and won't completely rape you over and over, they'll get the hint that you're new and switch shit around to keep it fun. Because this game has no real tournament scene anymore considering how old it is, there really is no "baaaawww I want to play this but I'm not good enough." In fact, it's more likely that there'd be a "baaaaawwww I'm too good, everybody hates me" as opposed to the former. And there isn't. Yet.

>>5112861
Speaking of which, where's that anon who used to always post one of those 'fascinating' reaction images every time I posted a paragraph in VagPov/soku threads? That dude was awesome.

>>5112890
Sayuri, Mayu, and Doppel all have command grabs to make shit a little more bearable, as well as a few others who I think I'm forgetting. A few characters - Mayu included - have airthrows as well, though those really are just as absurdly hard to pull off as ground throws are.
Hell, I respect you for playing a grappler in this game, I'd love to see you actually get somewhere with it. Good luck.

>>5112924
I wish Doppel was more like my waifu.

>>5112938
B-but I thought I was your waifu? ;_;

You know what, I'll just go ahead and rehost one more time for tonight.
Don't feel like reposting the IP this time though, so you'll have to endure the painful experience of scrolling for one second. I'm sorry.

>>5112317
Rehostan.
US Central 7500 fs5 wallslam

>>5111274
>>I enjoyed some success after switching to the sword rabbit girl, but then got my ass handed to me by some ice scarf character who simply dropped ice balls onto my head if I air dashed.

You should play as blood girl or drowsy girl instead; they are good girls.

>Hardly anybody is at a tourneyfag level in this
brb paging mizuumi

Is there a way to play this in a window?

>>5113207
Good games Tree, I'd play some more but that lag was getting terrible. I really wanted to get you with Akiko's Jam that last round but I kept wasting meter on cars by accident.

>>5113418
Without breaking netplay? No.

>>5113400
Say what you'd like, I'd kill for a chance to play bellreisa in this, especially with him commentating during it. That'd be the experience of a lifetime.

>>5113610
Yeah, I was wondering what was causing the fluctuating fps there; I looked and can't see anything it could've possibly been on my end. It fucked shit up hard because it would drop from ~60 to 20 fps in the middle of an input and drop half of it, which was baaaad since it liked doing that while I was trying to get out of corner pressure a lot. I'm sure it had some quarrels with you, too, so nothing of value was lost. Wish I knew what the hell it was though.

Either way, GGs 'ator, you've improved a hell of a lot in the past day, namely by, you know, learning how to block. Wallslam bullshit was much harder to pull off and magic-spamming was smalltime, I actually had to work to get things done. You've made me proud.
One thing I find weird though is that against everybody else the rare chance I get to pull off that level 3 Unknown super - the one with the barrel - ends up failing after the first or the second knife, I can't even get TO the third. Yet, when I do it on you, I have yet to NOT get to the third knife. And on top of that it succeeds more often than it doesn't, giving me that delicious 65%, but even moreso the satisfaction of knowing it worked. By the way, it may be beneficial for you to know it's unblockable; you can just walk left or right once my loli does the animation and the barrel starts falling, and I guarantee I'll toss my controller at the wall if you do which will give you a few seconds to get some free hits in while I pick it up. I'm not even sure if I'm joking.

Aaaanyway, thanks for the games bro, if you ever figure out what that weirdass fps problem was get back to me.

Downloading.

Casual fag hosting Midwest US
71.239.120.197

Bampu

>>5113685
Listening on port 88

For everyone who wants to play EFZ in window mode please download this one http://omoshiroi.info/leviathean/efz/DXWndEFZ.zip and config like the picture : http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/Death1002/COnfig.png

Whoever tried to join me before, you can try again, my controller was bugged up.

>>5113762
But does netplay still work with it on?

>>5113764
Oh, phew, 300+ ms from Midwest US when I'm central seemed weird as hell. That said, are you using the fs5 version of the netplay client or the other one? The only time it crashes like that is when the casters are incompatible.

>>5113770
Yes it worked with netplay as well

you can come join us at #EFZ on EFNet

>>5113777
>IRC

No thanks. /jp/ has a tradition where scenes to play fightan will arise, and over time IRC communities will break off from those scenes and the vast majorities of said communities will be tourneyfags and general douchebags. Playing this more often sounds like an opportunity, sure, but doing so would mean abandoning /jp/ and becoming something else. I did it once before, and don't want to do it again. Plus I'd be giving up on writing paragraphs post-match, I totally don't want to do that.

By the way, does this windower have any options to resize, by any chance? Not that I'm complaining because it means I can actually do things while playing now, but it just seems awfully... tiny. And this is coming from someone who usually plays things in 800x600 or 640x480.

Either way, it doesn't look like >>5113685 is up anymore and I'd like to see if this works, so a quick few matches if some kind anon wouldn't mind.
72.161.234.146
7500 and fs5, of course.
And the last part I'm sure I don't need to mention.

>>5113805
Not all of us are tourneyfriends.

>>5113814
Says the third biggest tourney 'friend' in there.
At least, you were friendly before you started trying to hide your identity. Now you can no longer be trusted.

>>5113814
Pfft, you were one of the last ones to make the transition. And you're the biggest tourneyfag out of all of them, dohohoho.
But no really, the purity of /jp/ netplay is something I cherish.

>>5113805
Disregard that resizing part by the way; I, uh, never thought about dragging it. Hurp.
Not going to stop hosting or anything, just thought I'd clear that up.

>>5113837
I haven't even played in a tourney, let alone play at a high level. Why does everyone think the worst of me? ;_;

76.28.244.101:7500
West Coast, I'll show you how bad I am, etc.

>>5113805
>>5113880
Okay, no, the windower doesn't work with netplay. Thank you.

Well, fullscreen's not SO bad, I guess. ;___;

>>5113880
>hides identity
>belittles self
>beats 100% of players on /jp/ and 98% of players on irc

>>5113896
It's fine with me ... just wonder how it didnt work to you

>>5113911
Well, I ran the netplay and such, and when it came time for EFZ to open it just plain didn't, and something titled "ERROR" with the EFZ icon showed up in the taskbar. Nothing else happened. Meanwhile, when I open EFZ normally, it works just fine. Does it have to do with how I'm setting it up? Everything's configured like it should be and there don't seem to be problems otherwise. Weird.

>>5113900
Knowing fightan basics and being really good at a certain one doesn't blatantly make one a tourneyfag.
Sure, being able to do crazy mixups and reversals within minutes of starting out is something befitting of a prodigy - or "tourneyfag" as it is called in the fightan world - but my cries of "tourneyfag" are mostly teasing, stop giving the poor soul a hard time. Once you play him in this and THEN lose a bunch of times, your hatred will be valid. But until then, keep it in soku threads or whatever.

Misuzu is incredible

>>5113928
well it just happens sometimes just try again and it'll be fine

>>5113900
Vulnerable Vita image to boot. Goddammit.
Never trust the loli.

68.40.62.4
ec/central

Time for some laggy matches !

113.22.220.4 EX asia ! Everyone's welcome ... you can ping before connect

68.40.65.4
ec/central rehosting

>>5113948
>simplified hosting message
>actual good player

Oh man, this is what I love about /jp/. Back to the good ol' days. GG nonetheless, the fps drop was probably because of this windower I was testing. It seems >>5113939 did speak truths, but if it's always gonna do that, I dunno. Fullscreen really isn't such a problem. Apologies anyway; I'd come back without this thing on but I'd better be on my way to do shit.

Have a great day, /jp/.

>>5113880
Oh man, I got crushed~ Good games and all that.

>>5114015
GGs. Didn't even get to do Doppel mirror.
But yeah, if you just started this out you're already doing pretty good. Just learn to capitalize on combos more and you'd have a decent Doppel.

>>5114026
I think a jerk wanted to play soku or something. I'll be hosting every so often, so just join whenever. Maybe you can even show me how to properly use Doppel.

>>5113985
>>5113948
Holy hell do you have a nasty Mishio. Taking the smallest counter-hits and ICing into corner loops. GGs

<beatsstayflowin> 174.66.168.117:88 <-- EFZ, US west

am I doing it right?

you have to open port UDP 88 to host after that just enter to host and post ur IP here if its the default 88 u just need to post ur IP

I'm so glad to see this instead of Hisoutensoku. After playing this for a while, Hisoutensoku feels unbearably slow and clumsy. Like a Touhou version of Super Smash Bros.

>>5114536
Because that's exactly what it is.
Maybe in the next week or so some other good old fightans will see a revival. Maybe.

>>5114427
>>5114459
Not quite; you don't HAVE to host with 88. As you can see from this thread, all the cool kids host with 7500, which can be done by editing under where it says "communication port" in your lang_0 file. Make sure it says "106=7500" down there.

SWRfags can even use 10800, I'm sure, but this thread looks like it's making 7500 the norm. If hosts could make sure to remember to clarify their ports as much as possible, that'd be much appreciated and save a chunk of wasted time.

>>5114536
0/10

24.17.224.49:88
I-know-everyone's-movelist tier

>>5114829
Am I doing it wrong?

>>5114891
EFZ netplay likes to be fuzzy when starting. It's a part of life. Try again at least 3 times, then we'll talk more.

>>5114891
Questions:
- Have you played others with EFZ netplay before?
- Where are you located? (I'm NorthWest)

>>5114913
No.
USE.

Using all the settings from the wiki

>>5114916
More questions:
- Are there any weird warnings from the netplay program if you try to host?
- Can you host?
- Do you know you have version 4.02?
- You're not running any torrents in the background, right?

>>5114924
No.
No.
Yes.
No.

>>5114944
I'm out of ideas. If you're interested in fixing it, go to #EFZ on irc.EFNet.org so we can troubleshoot this in real-time.

I'll continue my hostan.
24.17.224.49:88
nw-us

>>5114958
Ending host. Night.

Who're the tourney fags? I'd like to see for myself if they're actually tourney worthy. I highly doubt there's any such person here, but one can hope.

bump

>>5117634
Thanks.

Rehosting with fancy new IP for morning /jp/.
72.161.222.42
port 7500, fs5, US central - an EU is fine too
SLAM INTO WALLS

>>5117773
GGs, going to go finish dinner.

GOAL

>>5118022
FUCK, that part made me throw my controller down and start crying.
After it was over there was plenty of applause though; I'm not sure if the fact that you could get that off means I'm a scrub or you know your timing well. Then again, it looks like one of those things where the only way to not have it go through is to get interrupted - sort of like Litchi's Astral Heat - and I was expecting some sort of grab or attack to block. Hurr, whops. At least it was worth watching.

Anyway, GGs, those lessons are still as helpful as ever (I hope) -- I could practically hear the exchange of dialogue going on while it was happening, and there was a lot of "whoops I forgot, let me try that again" and an "oh right, I was supposed to that, not that, MY BAD" from my side. Yours I can only begin to fathom the profanities, most can't even put up with incompetent students for that long. Thanks a bunch for that.

And that barrel super, I know what it does, I've pulled it off a bunch on some of the poor kiddies of /jp/, and moreso I know the pain of having it sidestepped. Sure, I wanted to see you do it, but I wanted to see it hitconfirmed; I want to see how the PROS do that thing. I've seen how the pros dodge it, which as I'm sure you could've guessed by now made me scream like a drunken middle-aged dude after his favorite team lost the Super Bowl; there is NO WAY you pulled that off by accident. There was even the SFX of it hitting you and everythaaAAARARARRGERRHGHH THIS GAME.

Every time I understand more and more how hard the combos and such are to pull off and play you I am able to respect more how super pro you've become. Maybe someday.
Thanks for the games and enjoy your dinner, hopefully it will be as delicious as your victories. ;_;

>>5118066
If you see Misuzu doing that move, jump. Easiest way out.
But yeah, I was trying to show a few things with Mio, mainly the 214214A combos which I messed up or the 236A236A 641236C combo which I also messed up. I think you got the hints.

>barrel super
There is one nearly guaranteed way to get this off, but you've learned to stop airteching so I can't do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yox8dZgjAwQ
Here, around 3:00 in. A second way is to get them to block or get hit by 214C and immediately do barrel, they'll get pushed to the corner and get comboed into it or have it hit unblockable.

>>5118149
>I think you got the hints.
That I did. I know now how to follow up the basic aircombo after landing, at least, but when I was trying to pull it off I ended up doing 5ABC instead of 5A 5C because of HURR other fightans; but it's okay, you got the point across. The 214214 combos are just modified versions of the wiki combos, I'm sure, so I'll just take another look at that for reference and dick around with practicality later.
Also, lol'd at both our constant attempts to mash out that FM. From the videos it doesn't look that hard to do but in actual matches, hoo shit. I'd do the L-range one but I always forget the input for it at the last second so it never happens. Oh well.

>you've learned to stop airteching
Habit from playing soku, sorry. The tourneyfags over there (read: only ZomB) go out of their way to force new players into situations where they take 80% damage or similar bullshit by airteching once. After the first time I got aircombo'd so high that I was pushing against the top of the screen, I more or less never airteched again.

>A second way is to get them to block or get hit by 214C and immediately do barrel
Yeah, that's the one I figured out myself and had been trying to do, but every single poor soul I played against got hit by that instead of blocking, and I'm not even sure if they were doing it on purpose or what. Either way, I endured a bunch of scenes where they got knocked down and the barrel just fell on top of them, doing nothing. Feels terrible, man.
Airthrowing and barreling on wakeup, though, that's an idea; I'll definitely start doing that once I can actually time well enough to do airthrows.

So I found this tier list last night:
http://nyto.sakura.ne.jp/bamboosword/beginner/chara_status/rank.html
Just in case anyone else was curious. If you can't read it, Kanna beats the fuck out of everyone, then Nagamori beats the fuck out of everyone else.

>>5118345
Huh. So if I'm reading this right, Mio is low tier.
Thanks, anon.

>>5118426
You're not. She's mid tier if you stick to either long or short range, and top tier, just below Shiori, if you have the skill to use both.

>>5118243
>After the first time I got aircombo'd so high that I was pushing against the top of the screen

Tree so moe~

>>5118438
Oh, you're right.
Derp, I was focusing more on the 56 and the 58 than the 66. Silly of them to list all 3 separately, because the only right way to Mio is to constantly switch mid-combo. Guess I can see why some would choose to just do one or the other, though.

Also, Doppel both bottom and top tier? This list is hella silly. Good thing everybody here is a flaming casual, otherwise there may have been actual arguments.

>>5118479
No, she's just plain bottom tier, the 71 is when she uses her special that requires her to be at 1/3 HP, where she constantly regens SP and does shit tons of damage.

>Hisoutensoku
I still wwww whenever I see this written instead of that nice, simple, three-letter acronym, especially when it's right next to an acronym you have no trouble with (SWR or IaMP).
Stupid fightanfriends.

>>5118494
I, for one, welcome our CtEotSDG overlords.

>>5118450
That reminds me: the Soku threads were getting more and more dspicable. The last thing binding me to that game in fact, maybe it's for the best.

Someone host.

>>5118487
Oh, silly me. I should've figured that was the name of her FM. Let's see, what else do we have h-
>Sayuri bottom tier
Holy fuck shit, now I don't feel bad at all about wallslam-spamming with her. Thanks for brightening my day, anon.

>>5118494
You mean UNL?

>>5118530
That's why every soku thread gets a Territorial Oak.gif. It signifies how the community had burst into flames ages ago.

... Actually that has nothing to do with what it means but that sounds cool, I'll use that as my excuse from now on.

>>5118487
>1/3 HP
More like 1/6. Also has to be 3rd round. If she manages to get there she's pretty good, but it's still highly situational.

>>5118479
The way you play Mio right now is more focused on one or the other. You have to be switching during blockstrings as well, and just whenever it suits the situation.

>>5118345
Hooray, my waifu is actually good.

STOP PLAYING THIS SHITTY GA- Sup tree.

>>5118854
Good morning, Icekin.

>>5118345
I can't read this, but what tier's Ikumi?

>>5118924
>easy
>many
>bottom tier

Sure do love tourneyfriends.

>>5119167
You seem frustrated.

>>5118925
Highish tier.

>>5118924
Nagamori seems hard as hell to learn. For a button masher game, that is.

What happened to yesterday's hosts?

>>5118924
Even this list uses Nagomori/Nanase and not Mizuka/Rumi. Meh.

Mizuka is fun as hell to play as, but difficult to use in a real match, methinks.

Alright, let's try this.

East Coast host
69.119.178.162:7500
Played around in practice mode-tier

>>5120461
Sorry, I've been trying to get netplay working for a while, so if you could keep hosting, I'm gonna try a few things.

>>5120492
Until I get an opponent, be my guest. I should point out though that this is my first time hosting this particular game. I've hosted plenty of Soky/MB/GGXX#R though, so everything should be set up correctly (hopefully).

Is there any way to increase the resolution or at least play it in a window?

640x480 fullscreen doesn't look too hot on a 1920x1200 display.

>>5120549
See
>>5113762

>>5120492
Are you getting any errors? On my side I keep getting to the title screen and then it exits without an error.

>>5120461
Not sure what happened at the end, but whatever.
GGs, fellow first time netplayer. We obviously have a long way to go, but it's always fun to play like that where you have to make everything up as you go. I have to say Nagamori being able to throw out random DPs all over the place and make them safe with the notes is amazingly annoying.

>>5120461
Well, that was educational. I have got to find better ways of getting in... Air dashes are a lot more vulnerable than I'm used to. Input windows are tighter too, there are times I can place a note after a blocked 2C and times that I can't... Thanks for the games. Hope my noobiness wasn't too appalling.

>>5121341
>Nagamori being able to throw out random DPs all over the place and make them safe with the notes is amazingly annoying
That's mostly only for oki. If I time it right the note explosion can cross-up or not at my choice, but it's kind of tough to actually time it where I'm in control of which result I get. The wake-up shit I was pulling I don't believe was safe in the slightest, but since it worked I kept at it, nooby as it was.

>>5120461
Rehosting

>>5121379
>Hope my noobiness wasn't too appalling.
I was just as bad, the only reason I was winning was because I went into practice and figured out which of the characters aren't terribly hard (except Mai, the only character I really practiced).

>Go on IRC to find a game
>play random guy
>there's 1 lag spike at the beginning of the first round
>lose first round
>win next 2 rounds with no lag
>he ragequits and complains about the lag screwing him up
I love IRC.

hosts?

>>5121538
Sounds like Sion's MO.

>>5121543
You try >>5121379?

>>5121556
game crashed at the title screen.

>>5121543

>>5120461
Still hosting.

>>5121566
Had that happen a few times earlier... Dunno why that happens. Perhaps it's on your side? I did just host a game successfully after all.

>>5121678
you're using fs5 right?

playing this makes me want to play Queen of Hearts.

>>5121709
Playing this makes me wish Doppel was Sacchin. ;_;

>>5121566
If that happens, try again a couple more times. Sometimes EFZ netplay is goofy. Then check your settings if it still doesn't work. It won't work if you don't go into config and change the FPS from the default 30 to 60, and make sure all the rest are the same as it says on the wiki netplay page. It could also be your game or your caster being corrupt, like mine was, so if you can't connect to anyone, try redownloading the game and caster.

>>5121678
ggs, saje. I could've sworn efz ran at 64 fps instead of 60. It's a lot slower than I remember.

>>5120461
Rehosting

>>5121678
So many thick throws. So many character who handle so oddly. These things apparently do not go together very well for me. GGs.

76.29.15.231
US Midwest
Port 7500

207.47.201.79

I'll give this a try, even though i suck. Hope it works

>>5121833
It *is* supposed to run at 64 fps. Maybe the ping response was the limiting factor?

24.17.224.49, port 7500
US Northwest.
I-know-everyone's-movelist tier

>>5121907
Good games, Duck. I don't think I'll ever get used to the game doing something like 623B when doing something like 5B 623.

As always, a fresh game and you're numerous people while I'm sticking to one person. We play quite differently.

>>5121907
Good games. You should give Kaori and awake Nayuki a try. They seem like they'd be suited to your playstyle.

>>5122388
I LIKE the grappler, I just wish she didn't have such short, stubby, slow grappling arms.

I sorta want to try the boxing chick, though. I really don't know any of their names or anyone's moveset other than Doppel's.

>>5121991
Keep on either getting connection timed out or game failing to start.

>>5122399
I know that but it would be nice if you played more than one character.

>>5122413
If you're actually from Japan like your info and your 175 ms response time suggests, then perhaps our ISPs are somehow dropping packets between each other. Because I can connect fine to a lot of other people.

where i get netplay for this game from

>>5122454
I can connect fine to most if not all other people in the thread, and yeah, from Japan. I'll try again.

>>5121944
I doubt 24ms would make it run slow. It runs 64 offline.

>>5122491
Also what client are you using?

>>5121839
Well, that was thoroughly embarrassing. I've got to stop trying for jumping aerials in the corner as a mix-up. This isn't MB/GG/BB, that shit just don't work for anyone I play as... Would be nice if I would remember to do a plethora of things I keep reminding myself to do as well, but such is the way of new fighting games. GGs, thanks for the schooling.

>>5121839
GGs, man. It's getting overly easy to bait that DP. That and you need to vary your pressure. Maybe go into practice and work on a few different strings you can switch between.

so how do i netplay

I'm so happy this went somewhere, /jp/.
Some form of revival was to be expected, but what I had expected was something short-lived; maybe a week or so of a few players showing up, saying "oh yeah, this game is cool," then getting bored and disappearing. Never did I think such a chunk of /jp/'s soku and Meltan communities would pop up for a chance to play something so old, and even less so did I expect them to be such bros about it.
Other boards may be less fagged up and moot may like them more, but you, /jp/, will always be true friends.

That said, all the hosts seem to be busy, so come get wallslam'd:
72.161.225.109
port 7500, fs5 client
You know what to expect by now.

>>5122541
I'D FUCKING PLAY IF I KNEW WHERE TO GET CLIENT FROM

>>5122548
see >>5092225

And if you need the game itself, OP has a link.
JUST in case you didn't bother reading that either.

>>5122548
The MegaUpload link in the OP has the EFZ client.
>>5092225
Has the fs5 netplay caster

>>5122541
Whoa friend, don't just leave it there; EFZ likes to crap out the first try or two, go ahead and give it another go unless you have some other reason not to. That's the lowest ping I've had to anyone thus far, wouldn't want to just let it slip by.

92.237.64.115 britfag with no skill at efz

>>5121991
GGs. Mayu's FM is so demoralizing when you use it. ;_;

>>5122491
Good games. You definitely know your stuff. Wish it wasn't so 45 fps with you though.
Ikumi 1-2 Mayu
That was a lucky win for me. Mayu's FM interrupting your corner setup and all
Unknown 2-0 Mayu
Was pretty much oki'd to death.
Unknown 2-1 Mayu
I guess I did a little bit better, but you still had better knowledge of fighting smartly and proper zoning of moves.
Unknown 2-1 Sayuri
I got a Sayuri FM-trap down to win the first round, but I was outplayed the rest of the way. It was fun.

>>5122615
By the way, I got it working when I switched from the fs5 client to the normal one. Any reason you don't use the fs5? I've noticed up to 10 fps increases with a few people I play with.

>>5122632
I guess, because it is the "normal one", would be the reason. Lame excuse, but generally I don't usually play people beyond 125 ms ping anyway, so I don't need the frameskip-5.

Also, I thought Unknown could teleport out of Sayuri's FM setup. Was I thinking wrong?

>>5122649
She can, I just mistimed the RG on the star and got hit.

someone host

lets see if this works 99.157.101.31

>>5122724
hmmmm it just went to the title screen and did nothing? do i have the wrong version of the netplay tool?

why this shit crash after i connect to an ip

>>5122742
Because people are using two different netplay clients, for some reason.

>>5122541
Quit or crash? Oh well, either way ggs Giant Tree. Nah, what kept me form reconnecting is that I realized I didn't have the fs5 caster, so I went and grabbed it. Tried reconnecting several times and only got timeouts, so I figured you'd stopped hosting for whatever reason. Then I realized that I had forgotten to change the port back to 7500, heh.

Anyways, about the games. One round and you rolled snake eyes on two level 3 barrels? That was hilarious. That special grab with the roly poly guy is annoying as hell. Thought I had you figured out for a sec and then you went and changed when you used it on me. So mean ;_; Sorry I kept to the same couple of characters, but as today has shown me, I have little to no understanding of how to work anything besides what I play (not that I know anything about the characters I do play). Thanks for the games, Tree.

>>5122541
Holy shit fuck, this storm is getting really REALLY bad, I'd better stop for a while before I get struck by lightning inside my house or some similar freaky shit. GGs either way.

And... is that you, Saje? Because if it is, don't think I didn't read your posts all the time on soku threads, I know how you were "distracted" by BlazBlue for so long. I saw what your Ayu did. What I'm trying to say here is I see you, fellow Nu player.
Even if you're not Saje there's no other way anybody could just up and come up with specifically what you did, that j.BC dj.BC 214B; why, of all things, would you use 214B there when there are so many better things you could do? The answer is because you're so used to 214D that there was nothing else you could think to do in the heat of the moment, you were already drawn in by the winglike appearance of j.5C because of the j.2C 5C dj.2C 5C 214D you had grown so accustomed to. And the 6C with launcher properties, exactly like 2C. I'm almost surprised you didn't try to launch swords at me.

And again, assuming this is Saje, you have the single highest wallslam tolerance I've ever seen out of anybody claiming to be a beginner. And if you're not, the highest wallslam tolerance I've seen out of anyone in general. You scared me shitless that first match because of how you resisted all my usual tactics; later your weaknesses were revealed but you still did a hella good job of hiding them for so long. I applaud you for that.

>>5122867
Those weaknesses are, of course, ACTUAL grabs, which is ironic considering how you grabbed so much. It didn't seem like you were registering to jump out of my Mayu nonsense for the longest time, and I must admit you were the easiest to get with those command grabs of hers. Timing the followup was a little tougher since I'm so used to ~40-50fps, but normally it's j.AB dj.AB 5C or j.AB dj.AB airthrow; the latter is preferable but so much less likely to happen, I usually end up settling with 5C.

Aaanyway I should probably cut this short but not really because hurr field too long, durrhurr before the weather cuts it short for me. Thanks for the games, friend, and have a wonderful day.

>>5122871
Better followup is jB 66 jBC jABC 5B jBC if you're near the corner. Some variation without the jCs for midscreen. I think. Lev would know, he plays her far better than I do.
Also it seems like we reached autosage limit.

>>5122867
Er, j.5C j.2C dj.5C dj.2C 214D. Not sure what made me get that backwards.

Also, if you read the rest of the thread, see all that talk about "Kano magicspamming bullshit?" That's what it is. You had pretty ballin' control of her basic ground combo with the Napalm Beat and such, but the real way to play her is to make SURE you're charged before they even get a chance to airtech, and always ALWAYS 236S whenever you possibly can, bonus if they're actually close when you do it because then you can lightning them if they try to tech.
And speaking of which, as you played soku, this should sound familiar to you: Airtechs -- STOP DOING THEM. Being a Tasofro game, airtechs CAN and WILL fuck you ALL THE TIME. It may take some getting used to again, but keep it in mind all the time. Watch very, very carefully to make sure airteching is safe, because ZomB plays this.

>>5122867
Yes, it's me, but I'm a Rachel/Tsubaki main in BlazBlue, Nu sub.

>why, of all things, would you use 214B there when there are so many better things you could do? The answer is because you're so used to 214D that there was nothing else you could think to do
Guilty as charged. Went for the first thing to come to mind. You may have noticed that my Cello-girl kept j.214ing after a j.5C as well, but that's a lot worse than Uguu j.214.

>Those weaknesses are, of course, ACTUAL grabs
;_; You prolly didn't pick up on it while playing Soku, since grabs are ridiculously obvious in that game, but they're my weakness and my exploit everywhere. I'm a blockwhore, what can I say?

>"Kano magicspamming bullshit?"
Oh god! So awkward, but so awesome. I try to save the magic bursting for, well, bursting really. It's about the only defensive maneuver the girl has when she has no magic bar.

>Airtechs -- STOP DOING THEM
It's always been a bad habit, but one I sometimes have under control. Left unpunished for too long though and I'm easy tech-punish pickings.

Thanks for the treealogue, Tree. Always a pleasure to play and read.

>>5122941
>sage
>326 posts and 52 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Oh, you. But let's keep using this thread as long as it's still around so we're not disturbing the rest of the board and so >>5111525 can be the OP image of the next one.
You know, uhh, for the sake of love and peace and all that.

>You prolly didn't pick up on it while playing Soku
"Prolly" because I only got a chance to play you in Soku, like, once or twice. It's a shame too because I love the way you type and I'd always wished we could've had more chances to exchange paragraphs, but it just didn't happen. Maybe it can be done now.

>I'm a blockwhore, what can I say?
Guilty there, myself. You probably noticed since you always just grabbed in the middle of blockstrings, assuming that's not a habit as well. Grabs in this game are funky, I really don't like doing them when I can just mash out command grabs and enjoy delicious success. Wallslam city, this game.

>I try to save the magic bursting for, well, bursting really.
Hence why I say it's best to do when they're close, but if the situation looks unsafe to charge in, you're gonna want to use that thing right away. One of the advanced tourneyfag techniques in popular practice these days is to "magic cancel," which is basically hitting SS after certain normals to charge up a certain amount of the magic bar, which I can guarantee comes in handy against actual good players because waiting out the charge becomes literally impossible, and they'll be punishing burst attempts as much as possible. They can do this because it's NOT a burst, actually; it only looks like one because of the pushback. Don't be fooled.

Play it safe, and I'd like to know why the fuck my electricity still hasn't gone out yet.

>>5122977
>326 posts and 52 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.
Habit, what can I say?

>"Prolly" because I only got a chance to play you in Soku, like, once or twice
I thought we played more than that... I know recently it's only been once or twice, but way waaaaay back when 12.3 first came out I think we played together a number of times. The amount the two of us have played that game, we had to bump heads more than once or twice.

>You probably noticed since you always just grabbed in the middle of blockstrings, assuming that's not a habit as well
Partly habit, partly "Hey, those first three worked and he still hasn't picked up on it!" Of course, once I thought that I kept misjudging the range and wound up with a 5/6C instead. That sucked...

>Wallslam city, this game
Oh God, yes. You'd best be comfortable with getting out of the corner, because everything fucking corners in this game. Now if only I would stop attempting corner mix-ups with aerial attacks... The jumps are way too high and the gravity way too low for that sort of thing to work... Another habit I've built up from BB. You'd be amazed how many people eat simple Jin j.5Bs because they try to poke out. Simply beautiful...

>"magic cancel," which is basically hitting SS after certain normals to charge up a certain amount of the magic bar
Intriguing... I'll have to look into this some more... Maybe if I actually have bar I'll be able to learn how to use it correctly, heh. Go for the lightning, they're in my face. Go for the ice, it whiffs. Go for the fire, they're in the corner block whoring. Go for the super, whoops, I dunno which one to use BECAUSE SHE HAS 13 FUCKING SUPERS, ARGH!

>>5122977
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm209086
Here's a good Kano. Might be helpful to give it a watch.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1489273
And a combo video while we're at it.

>>5123052

>Go for the lightning, they're in my face.
Train yourself to forget the lightning even exists when you're just standing there trying to figure out which spell to use; it should ONLY be situational, say, after your 236S "burst" or have just been launched, or are otherwise in the air for whatever reason.

>Go for the ice, it whiffs.
Judge distance on that one. Don't do it when they're approaching because it'll get Touhou'd and disappear out of thin air when they punch you in the face halfway through the animation. Rather, do it when they're far or - better yet - on oki, because then...

>Go for the fire, they're in the corner block whoring.
If you ice them on oki and it's blocked, great! Fire them and keep them blocking while you charge up for more mischeif and work your way into getting close enough to hit them with mixup/crossup/whatever and stop their blockwhoring ways. If you icebolt them and it whiffs, chances are that's because they're headed your way, MEANING fireball is normally your best chance to either get them blocking or just plain hit them out of their advance. You'd probably be pleased to know that the latter is what happens more often, hence why I've been referring to it as "Kano magicspamming bullshit." Once you get it all working together it fucks shit up, plus you can feel good for playing a "lunatic" character as our beloved tierlist describes.

>Go for the super, whoops, I dunno which one to use BECAUSE SHE HAS 13 FUCKING SUPERS, ARGH!
Personally, I like 2141236C Soul Strike because, although it just about never ever hits, it keeps them blocking for a longass time and you have just enough recovery to do whatever the hell you want. Plus they get pushed to the corner while blocking most of the time, which makes it even better.

I'm no pro Kano myself though, so don't take my word for this stuff too much.

>>5123101
Thanks, that helps explain things a lot more. Magic canceling is pretty difficult to put into words, but seeing it actually done makes it seem like a real hassle to do, especially when in this specific example our tourneyfag friend only really did magic-cancel combos a couple times; most of the magic charges came from charging on block or oki, which is something you see often because it's usually effective. Still, magic-canceling is something that helps to know anyway, so I'm glad someone trotted along and threw that out there.

>>5123052
>I know recently it's only been once or twice

WRONG. I rageuninstalled Soku like what, 3 months ago? Haven't touched it since. The only time we played was in the first month or so of it being out, and even then no more than 3 times. I do recall going through threads and finding it silly that you always hosted and got connections at nearly the exact time that I did, but I never went out of my way to connect when you hosted and you never mine, for the most part. I just pranced through the daily thread and thought "Oh hey, there's Saje. I wonder if he included 'tis or 'twas in a sentence this ti-- oh, there it is! What a goofy person."

... Yeah, it was something like that.

99.157.101.31 EC

>>5123532
port 88 fs client

<ZomB> man why the fuck did i just spend the last 2 hours grindning efz combos

Bump !

58.186.8.246 asia port 88 fs5 anyone is welcome !