/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I like how some people can lose in a game that literally lets you make up your own win conditions.

Just flip your tiles over and say it's shang tsung toi boi rama lama ding dong, 2560000 points, and who's going to be able to tell you you're wrong? Nobody.

Bump for 4p

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050910gm-0011-0000-96753d0b&tw=2

Should I have went for that suu-ankou, or was it smart for me to play it safe?

>>5079489

You were so far ahead anyway that you could have dealt into either hand and still won.

>>5079602
;_;

>>5079636
?

Risky, but lucky.

>>5079653
Oh, did the old thread die already?
Happened a short while ago, fuck tenhou

>>5079668
BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

That shit happens to me every other game, get used to it.

>>5079659
too bad you lost all those points in the end

>>5079689

People play Mahjong for one or more of these three main reasons:

- To win
- To make somebody else lose/not go over a certain amount
- To get a high-scoring or rare hand

Winning isn't everything unless you're playing for dan.

>>5079729
>- To make somebody else lose/not go over a certain amount

You mean people play mahjong to troll?

>>5079291
>can't tsumo
>furiten

>>5079729
All you have to do is look at the image to know why. You fuckers can rot in hell.

>>5079729
This is true for me, but at different times in different places.

If I want to play to win by all means possible and go for fastest possible tanyao/yakuhai and other droll boring shit, I go play in L0000. It took me over a year to reach 1 dan, that should give you some indicator of my "ability". Winning's fun but really not so if it's done by a ton of boring fast cheap hands.

If I want to actually enjoy playing mahjong, I'll go for my personal goals of mangan in 4p or baiman in 3p and nothing else, regardless of how well/poor I wind up doing. Or I'll try and go for specific yaku like junchan sanshoku, or honro honitsu. I don't care about winning in these situations, which is pretty much when I play against CPUs or in L7447.

>>5079689

It was refreshing since I'm used to losing them all in the beginning.

>>5079879
>It took me over a year to reach 1 dan
>1year
Seriously learn to play.
You can reach 1dan in just 80games.
Fixed for accuracy.

>>5079900
What's a yaku?

>>5079900
I registered on tenhou about a week after learning what mahjong was. I'd never played any variants or knew how to play before that, much less the riichi variant or anything. I'm still learning and I only play off and on. I reached 1 dan after about 15 months or so, in 154 games, with R1407. Almost all of those games were east-only.

Like I said, I don't really care about winning much, I mainly play for the fun of pulling a big hand together and occasionally felt like playing for rank.

>>5079729
When I am playing with dans in the dan room where rank matters I do not play to win. I play to not lose. Winning is a bonus.
Mahjong is a game about not losing, I try my best to win but I don't put myself in insane risk to do so. Sometimes small risk is ok to quote akagi "You won't live unless you die" Or whatever. That doesn't mean you should be retarded and deal into obvious hands like most 7447s do. If the game is halfway over and someone riichi's and you are not in tenpai or iishanten, fold your hand immediately, and if the tile you draw is risky, fold, unless you absolutely need to win, say, your last place and it is the last round. Or you have dealer and need to keep it.

All you guys are concerned about winning hands, but that doesn't matter, you want to be winning at the end, and if your hand is risky or not coming together don't pursue it because that is just going to hurt you in the long run.

>>5079900
>>5079291

The official flowchart of the JPML

>>5079978

>>5079879

At least you won't be RAGING at not winning more than 1 in 4 games like everyone else. Have you unlocked all those achievements you were shooting for?

>>5079997
Actually it is not about winning 1in4.
It is more about not getting last. If your last place is below 0.1 and you are pretty well off already.
My current ratio is about
1st place .3
2nd place .4
3rd place .2
4th place .1
The way Tenhou rating is at the moment, it is all about not LOSING.

so i went back to 0000 for a bit of grind.
turns out i couldn't last more than a few games.

bawwww. i rather cheat then grind this shit. :(

>>5080078
It's a luck game, sometimes I'll win 5 games in a row and leave happy, then the next time I'll get last place 5 times in a row and cry myself to sleep.

rets pray!

>>5080059
Mines
First: 3
Second: 2
third: 4
Last: 1

I have played like 600 4p games or some bullshit, so a lot of my early losses when I was just learning are on their, I imagine If I made a new account it would be

First: 2
Second: 1
Third: 4
Last: 3

>>5080059
my other account has extremely sick stats. it is prone to clawbacks (b2b losses) so i decided to retire that one early hahaha.

1875 rating, 1 dan, 44% 1st place, 60 games played. one more win to 2 dan.

>>5080059
>>5080106

Oh I mis read your post. Thought you were making a last (Higher - more often)

my real rank% wise is.
Out of 568 4p games.
First - .234
Second - .267
Third - .229
Fourth - .269

Last 17 games

First 4 times
Second 8 times
Third 2 times
Last 3 times

>>5080106
>600 4p games
You should be pretty good since you have play way more than me.
I don't know about you but in 4p especially in 0000, it is more about risk calculation and I will take 2nd place if it is there for taking and not risk it for first.

>Good starting hand and potential for mangan
Go for it and take risk. You wont be able to play around early riichii most of the time

>Shit hand, no potential for mangan
Keep it close, damaten, play it safe and break tenpai when you sense danger

If you play defensively you hardly ever get last unless some faggot got a tsumo sanbaiman during your dealer turn.

>>5080059
My tenhou stats, on the other hand, are:
1: .181
2: .227
3: .344
4: .246
D: .038

Not exactly even decent tier. Which is why I'm happy enough with the fact that I managed 1 dan, which is what I set as a personal goal for myself when I first started.

>>5079997
Achievement Unlocked: Fuck around with bots

Rinshan Kaihou xD

>>5080152

>COM

>>5080351
Don't hate on COMs, sometimes they're the only source of amusement in the middle of the night when no one's on. Plus it's fun to not have to worry about other hands for a change.

>>5080208
Saki psp is so imba. I got to SIXTEEN bonus rounds as Mihoko (Girl with the different color eyes).
Her power turned on after I won 2 games in south 1 and I was able to knock koromo down to negative points. She started at 101,200 points. I thought the game was supposed to end after 8 bonus rounds, guess not in Saki.

Saki helped a lot making pointless kans when I was in riichi. What a dumb little boy she is.

tell me what you think about this game /jp/

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050914gm-0009-0000-xa6d060b83519&tw=3

I thought I was pissed while I was playing, but after watching this replay, I've never raged so hard in my mahjong life.

Anyone up for some 4p?

>>5081637
I am.
Now we need a couple more

I am terrible.

ggkthx

Good Game. Specially that last hand from Flonne.
Although, I am mad with GayRobot. I had a huge ass hand just waiting to happen and you just had to go and take it with that open, lousy 1000 hand.
What the hell.

Oh well, that was fun.

>>5081756

I suggest you play COM before ever playing again and kill yourself please.

>>5081835
Since you asked nicely!

Why is /jp/ always playing this in the dead of night?

Why can't you play during normal hours?

I don't understand what the fuck is going on in this thread because I can't be bothered to read it, but I fuckin love mahjong!

>>5081831

lol, i was thinking i probably F'd someones hand. But after the first 2 rounds i didn't care anymore. I am so bad at reading peoples hands : /

>>5081872
Enjoy your shitty game based on luck of the draw and little emphasis on actual skill.

>>5081899

>>5081919
Akagi isn't real, anon.

Neither is Santa.

I'm done for the night, then. Thanks all.

Good luck, Zettai!

>>5081899
The skill part of it is knowing how to not lose. But people like you can't grasp that.

>>5081998
The gods of mahjong have abandoned me...

Well, that was a short game.

3P, go!

GET IN

>>5082545
not like it matters, but the first time that was posted it was in a thread I made

makes me happy ;_;

>>5082553

Ah well. Bad game.

4p. Don't keep me waiting.

bump
1 more player

3:0

Two more for 3p.

>>5085214
riichi turns 3han hand into a monster.jpg

bump

>>5086124

Not a yakuman unless you tsumo it

Point
.
.
.
.
You

Actually i didn't notice that my last discard turned my Ippeiko Yakuhai hand into that

Is it weird to fap while you're waiting for a game to start?

>>5086173
Depends whether you are fapping because you are waiting or just while you wait

>>5086178
>fapping because you are waiting
>3:0
>"Uhhnnn! Almost...THERE!"

>>5086692

Nobody cares.

>>5087071
I feel deeply insulted, and I'm going to quit playing mahjong.

Guess Tenhou is down for maintenance?

>>5087438
Yeah.

I wonder how many people actually make mahjong threads. I loved the one that said to riichi and click all the buttons on the bottom right.

Is there any place online I can read interesting articles on mahjongs?

>>5087693
>interesting
>mahjong

Choose one.

>>5087693
http://www.osamuko.com/

>>5087693
All mahjong thread with this image here is started by me.
I suspect there is around 3-4 people that make them.

Hey, I was playing last night but now I'm getting this when I load up the applet and hit okay:

[ERROR] splash: connection failed

Any ideas?

>>5087916
Read >>5087438

>>5087933
Thanks.

bump

Need more for 4P or 3P.

I just played 3p for the fire time in my life. The first...five hands were just insane luck. All of my magical sand for the next month was used up.

Barely won at 50k points, though. some amazing stuff near the end.

Goddamn, I'm sucking too much. Only hand I got right was a pitiful 1300 and the only decent thing I had almost done was bumped.
Good Game. Sort of overkill though.

>>5090072
The round where you got the 1300 hand on me killed me, I was drawing nothing but crazy tiles and changed my hand constantly. ;_;

Good game, though.

riichi, chinitsu, ryanpeiko, pinfu, akadora, nukidora and i lose internet, god fuck comcast

>>5090320
>chinitsu, ryanpeiko, pinfu
Daisharin?

bump

12 days and 22 games without a win ;_; And then suddenly!

age

Bump for 4P.

3:0!

>>5091903
Hahahaha.

Better not play with real money.

>>5091903
Dealer baimans aren't really that rare.

The game is very easy when Tenhou loves you.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051023gm-0089-0000-3160addd&tw=3&ts=11

Queued for Real Deal.

My first Daisangen.

>>5094387
>3p

>>5094036
Who is that? Saki and?

>>5094410
Lurk forever.

2 more for 4p

>>5094395

But I don't play 3p, except that one game where I figured out I didn't like it.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH ALL YOUR LUCK IN THIS SHITGAME?!

>>5094410
left: Tetsuya, right: Ryu

>>5094457
chanta, honitsu, yakuhai 3?

>>5094538
YOU CAN FLY

Wonderful, I had a misclick.

>>5095002
What are you trying to tell us?

Funny thing, one has drawn instantly into Tenpai, why i had such a shit hand that i could restart the round!

>>5095049
Disregard. I am a bit dizzy.

>>5094998
Wait, did you actually riichi for a tile, which was only twice left in the game?
In that situation it was a correct decision to not change your wait, but still...

>>5095071
This is regarding East 1st round.

>>5095071

I riichi hoping it would make someone bail. I wasn't going to change my wait anyway so I might as well riichi plus all of my discard were terminals and honors.

Where can i buy luck?

> ふー
> FUUUUU-
> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>5095727
You should have discarded the dora pair.

>>5095744
I thought it would look too obvious.

>>5095347

You can stop sucking. Just kill yourself you worthless piece of shit.

>>5095781
Go fuck your dead bitch mother.
Stop sucking? Tell me where to buy luck on the Tenhou page you fucker.

>>5095793

>>5095801
No, obviously, i adapt my language.

http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/ranking.pl?name=Senechal&m=0&r=0&t=0&a=0&from=
20060701&to=20100511&rn=&tn=&l=

Hahaha,
平均得点: -0.750

Telling me L2P

>>5095810
>Leecher: hey, i was 2dan

Pics or it never happened

>>5095810

>平均得点: -1.625

>>5095810

Those are quite horrible stats for 7447 games. You should quit playing mahjong.

Disregard that, I suck cock.

>>5095861
>>5095835

Hurrrr , implying games on L7447 matters.

>>5095835
Old database is old.

>>5095886

I'm sorry here's your updated score:

>平均得点: -99.965

>>5095896
So funny, kid.

Since the last database update, you appear to have dropped 210 points in L7447.

So much hate and strife. Mahjong is supposed to be tanoshii, people.

>>5095810
Just so you know, when you get to high levels It is completely normal to have that as a negative. Especially when you have been playing 300+ games (used to be bad, now are good).
If I were to remove my first 200 games (out of 560) I would be + 5.12
Not removing those 200 I am -2.4

You are an idiot that doesn't understand that people get better over time.

>>5095939
L7447 serious business.

>>5095951
Are you retarded?

>>5095980

Are you butthurt?

>>5095980
apparently you are since you don't understand what an average is.

>>5095951
>560
>Total games played: 240
wut

>>5095982
Proof?

>>5095989
Lol, obviously you are retarded for not understanding what i am indicating.

Mahjong = gambling game = luck based game

>>all of you

>>5096000

Since this game is luck based and you suck don't play.

Perhaps you should stick to connect one.

it's like i'm really in /a/

Why are you all so mean to the scrub?

>>5096000
And I'm implying that the average points at the end of a game starts low when you are a novice but as you play more that average slowly goes back up. That is what skill is, when you do better at something "on average" then how you did in the past.
It isn't all luck. Winning is luck 90% of the time, but, conversely losing is your own stupid fault 90% of the time. As you learn to not lose, your points go up. Not losing is a skill that is less influenced by luck. No one seems to understand that to win at mahjong you have to not lose it seems obvious but people think you need to win every hand to win which is almost never the case.

>>5096022
>Since this game is luck based and you suck don't play.

>implying this game is about skill and believing your shitty mahjong anime

>>5096082
You just don't like to think about things do you? If you want to believe that you do bad because your luck is bad and not because "You just fucking suck" then go ahead. If you want to get better use some critical thinking and don't just categorize something on one observation.

>>5096082

>I suck at this game bawww
>Baww no fair they got more luck then me
>I still suck bawww

>>5096139
>implying that baaawing about someone baaawing is better

>>5096153

Missed me guys?

>>5096167
Norwayfa = Finlandm = Leecher

Finlandman vs Leecher.

Who sucks at mahjong more? Take your bets here!

Anyone trying to argue that mahjong isn't luck-based is an utter retard.

I've been playing for decades and even I know skill is secondary to luck. Your draw alone determines if you get a hand right off the bat or if it's going to take at least 7 rounds to get a possible hand.

>>5096198
I am sure that i have less luck than him.

>>5096208

You mean skill.

>>5096207
The only thing you can do is to avoid obvious waits.
That's the only thing you can do.
Unless you are some Akagi, Mahjong is still considered gambling.

And yes, you can write the best possible bot and it can still lose all the time.

>>5096220
So catchy and smug.

Go and watch your moeshit anime about mahjong.

>>5096227
Don't worry, with enough practice you'll understand how to build valid waits.

>>5096207
It's as luck based as Poker or other card games. But we still hold there is some level of skill needed there.
Sure, the difference between a decent run and trash hands lies on the magic sands deposits, but skill gives you a leg up. The ability to smell a good hand, know what to discard on scant seconds, there's definitely a difference between a newcomer and someone that has a couple dozen games on his back.

We wouldn't have this conversation if we played mahjong on real life. Online takes away all the face reading aspect.

>>5096237
Don't worry, it's still gambling.

>>5096249
I am sure that poker is less luck based as you can always fold your hands and don't have to deal things into your opponents hands.

>>5096249
As luck based at Poker, oh you. Atleast you can bluff in Poker when you have nothing.

>>5096293
You can always act like you're in tenpai and put everyone on edge, make them think their discards will fuck them up.

>>5096285
There's still a penalization for folding your hand, you lose your current blind. But I do agree that luck certainly feels like everything in Mahjong. So many trash hands one after another.

>>5096249

>We wouldn't have this conversation if we played mahjong on real life. Online takes away all the face reading aspect.

Implying that idiots here could into face reading or would even dare to face other people.

Not to forget that you actually play with and for money.

>>5096339
But that's what you can control. And it's not even every round as the dealer button will be passed around.

>So many trash hands one after another.

You can still get unlucky and lose all the time with non-trashhands, just because the opponent can draw the winning tile right before you.

>>5096344
Anonymous cannot into face ;_;

>>5096344

You watch to much anime.

>>5096344
I used to have a poker night a few buddies, it's really fun in a relaxed environment. No zawa zawa, just a couple of beers and celebrating for a nice hand or a godlike bluff.

Wish I could find a place to actually play mahjong. Chances it will be elderly chinese people, or a smoke filled back room playing with who knows who. Kinda scares me.

>>5096365
Lolwut? I am certainly not as delusioned as some people here.
But i admit that something like "face reading" is possible to a certain extent.

>>5096359
Obviously

Actually, the more I think about it, the best comparison would be with dominoes. Luck based as hell, but skill is still a variable.
In the end it all comes down to the magic sands and how much you have at a given time.

I sure miss playing dominoes...

>>5096375
Search some weaboo friends or like you said some old chinese hags for fooling around.

Otherwise people do play with money or some other things. I also wouldn't play without any wagers as it is part of the thrill, the essence of gambling.

Still haven't lost the touch

Would you have sacrificed a Nagashi Mangan in this situation?

>>5096529
> 3p

Would have saved the pei so I could discard it and still get the nagashi.

>>5096529
iirc you can't get nagashi if you make north dora

>>5096529
requesting janitor to delete this post and all related 3p posts

>>5096529
yeah, we don't discuss 3p on this board anymore, take it elsewhere, thx

Wait 3P is banned nowadays?

>>5096529
moron you could get a triple yakuman in 3p and it would only be worth an open tanyao in 4p, get out you worthless scum

>>5096616
talking about 3p deserves a 30 day ban from /jp/. i'm sick of you retards thinking it's a viable game.

>>5096635
Mahjong isn't a viable game in a whole anyways so why does it matter?

I wish MANkoto-kun posted more in these threads. His posts are so cute and I really enjoy reading them.

>>5096643
get out

bump for 4p.

>>5078311
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bump for 4p!!

bump for 444p

i said bump for 4p!!!

>>5096679
Why should I?

>>5096804
get out

>>5096651
But mahjong threads are full of hate and frustration.

I only play 3p on 7447, sorry.

>>5096884
Well if you're going to be my future husband, you will just have to deal with it, babe!

>>5096892
Hi Gayanon.

All this 3P hate is stupid.
3P actually required more skills since it is fucking harder to not get last in 3P.

4p
４位率 = .086

3p
３位率 = .222

Learn to read hand and play defense if you want to play 3p instead of crying about LUCK LUCK LUCK.

>>5096912
Hello.

>>5096923
I only play 3p when I feel saucy and want to go for baiman/yakuman hands every round, so I deal in to other people all the time.

>>5096923
>3P actually required more skills since it is fucking harder to not get last in 3P.
Nah, you just suck at it.

This Kanbara is loved by the tiles.

http://ponpalace.com/achievements.php

Stop chi'ing all of my tiles Kanbara! I don't need them so sure as hell you don't need them either!

>>5097039
>>5097056
Hahaha, i can confirm this.
Have played with him 3 matches or so.

>>5097039
>>5097056
>>5097066

ワハハ

>>5097042

I only have one achievement.

>>5097042
>achievements
oh wow.....

I didn't win a single hand.

>>5080078
Personally, I find the players in the 0000 lobby easier than in the 4chan lobby.

Maybe it's because of the times I usually play mahjong?

>>5097106
That's kind of neat, actually.

Damn disconnecting internets.

If it bothers you, you're welcome to ignore me as I save my yakuman replays for posterity.

>>5097235
?

>>5097268

Our friend >>5097106
is disappoint.

>>5097309
I see. By the way, I think he will get his achievement anyway if someone else uploads replay.

Am I Saki yet

>>5097431

no, you're just a scrub who likes half flushes too much

>>5097431
There's an achievement on pon palace for uploading 5 replays of +/- 0 games. So you're getting there!

>>5097444
excuse me mister, I'll have you know I like toitoi MUCH more than hon/chinitsu.

Like I said, I don't play 3p to win. I just like going for stupid hands

Tenhou = mudazumo world
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050211gm-0089-0000-4f6ea733&tw=0&ts=0

>>5097546
Haha jesus, two suuankous in 3 rounds

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fuck off tenhou, let my shitty internet back on

>>5097546
Sweet jesus.

>>5097546

the chances of getting a yakuman is less than 0.01%. fucking hax man.

>>5097749

I think it's closer to 1%. 1 in 10,000 hands seems a bit too rare.

Well, I got what I had coming.

4p time.
Dans only!~
Just kidding.
But better if you are, queue now!

Can anyone here confirm I got these translation correct?

>>5098035

Oh for the 2nd to last one it's "No or yes for lights"

That game was fun. GG guys. I had a nice comeback from dealing into that 4 han hand at the very start.

Oh man ikahodo...You would have ippatsu tsumoed if meh didn't deal in that hand. I'm sorry.

The backlights thing means tsumokiri discards are highlighted in-game, like in the replays. This one has been a bit unpopular with the serious players since it gives information you'd otherwise have to memorize in a real game.

A good explanation for "tips" is over at http://www.osamuko.com/2010/01/30/grilled-chicken-and-flowers/

>>5097903
I just watched half the game. you are all so bad

>>5098117

Lol, I don't have the premium version so I never know what comes up. It happens. Conversely, I think the ippatsu on that deal in is what pushed Xin to 1st.

Link: http://tenhou.net/0/?52796672

Starts: 05/15/10 10:00 EST/4CHAN TIME
Ends: 05/15/10 15:00 EST/4CHAN TIME

Rules:
- Rank is determined by your best 3 game streak.

Game Rules:
- 4 Player
- Ari Red Fast
- Tonnansen (East and South rounds)

Ranking:
http://tenhou.net/sc/?C5279-sc3m

>>5098145
? I was playing and noticed good play from the players, except meh but he was obviously new and still played as well as he could being confronted by 3 2dan players. He was defensively better then some of the 7447s.

I was laughing at the two chantas in a row, that is a pretty uncommon yaku.

>>5098200
*1 4dan, tired can't read.

>>5098200
http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/ranking.pl?name=mehmeh&m=0&r=0&t=0&a=0&from=20
060701&to=20100511&rn=&tn=&l=

he has been playing since 08

and everyone was pretty bad

zagato superior.

Okay, this 3p garbage has been taken to far. Anybody who doesn't participate in the /jp/ 4p championship needs to be BANNED from 7447.

>>5098343
What if I'm working that day?

>>5098343
if you wanted a large turnout perhaps it should have been a 3p tournament then

>>5078311
T h I ｓ Ｉ S ｃ Ｏ ｐ ｙ ｐ Ａ s t Ａ i Ｆ o U Ｎ D ｉ Ｔ H ｅ Ｒ E : H ｔ T P : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 /

>>5098351
>>5098376
get out

>>5078311
h Ｔ ｔ P : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 / I Ｓ F ａ Ｒ s Ｕ p E R Ｉ ｏ Ｒ Ｔ O t H I s p i ｅ Ｃ e ｏ Ｆ C r ａ P 4 C h Ａ ｎ ｉ Ｓ F Ｏ ｒ Ｕ Ｇ ｌ ｙ l o Ｓ ｅ Ｒ Ｔ Ｒ o L l S O ｎ l Ｙ

>>5078311
O ｐ ｈ Ｅ ｒ e I M Ｌ ｅ ａ ｖ I Ｎ G 4 Ｃ H Ａ ｎ Ｆ O ｒ E ｖ ｅ r b Ｅ c ａ U S E Ｉ F Ｏ ｕ N ｄ O ｕ ｔ Ｉ ｔ ｓ a d ｍ Ｉ Ｎ Ｉ ｓ Ａ Ｔ ｈ i Ｅ Ｆ ｗ Ｈ o ｔ ａ K e ｓ C ｒ e D I t Ｓ Ｆ ｏ r O ｔ h E Ｒ S Ｗ o Ｒ ｋ H T Ｔ ｐ : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 / i s t Ｈ Ｅ P l Ａ Ｃ ｅ 2 Ｂ

Bump for ari red fast.

>>5098431
How come you're up so late, baby?

>>5098441
Not sleeping today so I can finally play in one of these CHAMPIONSHIPS.

>>5098467
Make sure you get enough sleep though, I don't want you to be cranky and tired tomorrow, my love.

>>5098467

CHAMPIONSHIP on the 15th though.

>>5098486
Oh god... ;_;

>>5098526
Nice, one of the only times I've ever seen that yaku. I've never seen suukantsu before.

>>5098547

Tried that several times, especially when i need a comeback win. Failed most the time.

Tried to imitate Saki. It always ended with either a high scoring hand, or me in the last place.

>>5078314
S ｕ Ｐ e ｖ e r ｙ ｏ Ｎ e j Ｕ S ｔ Ｗ A n T e Ｄ T o T E ｌ ｌ U ｔ ｈ A t Ｃ h ｒ i s t Ｏ P h Ｅ R ｐ ｏ o ｌ E Ａ K A m O ｏ T A K A U Ｒ ａ D ｍ Ｉ Ｎ h A ｓ ａ ｍ E ｎ Ｔ ａ ｌ I Ｌ Ｌ n E S s D o Ｎ ｔ S U p ｐ Ｏ r Ｔ p ｓ Ｙ ｃ ｈ Ｏ ｓ J o i ｎ T H e B E S T f O r ｕ Ｍ : h t T p : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 /

If I see a post about 3p one more time...

3p is for faggots who cant play a real mahjong game.

>3p

This is an old screen shot, But is still worth some laughs.

>>5078312
ｗ h y Ａ ｒ ｅ ｙ Ｏ u S t ｅ a l ｉ n g Ｃ Ｏ ｎ Ｔ e Ｎ t C ｈ ｒ I Ｓ Ｔ ｏ Ｐ Ｈ e Ｒ p o Ｏ Ｌ Ｅ ? Ｈ t t Ｐ : / / 8 8 . 8 0 . 2 1 . 1 2 /

>>5098566
This screenshot reminds me, why doesn't Tenhou flip the kandora until way later than it should? From reading the standard rules, it says to call kan, place it to the side, flip the kandora, draw the replacement tile from the dead wall, THEN you can deal with rinshan/discarding/whatever.

It kinda sucks because I've thrown tiles that immediately were the new kandora, and in your picture's case you don't get the chance of 3-4 more dora and an instant yakuman. I wonder why Tenhou does it out of order...

>3p

>>5098786
Only on closed kan do you flip the dora before discarding.

>>5098786

That bugs me too since im always aiming for a Kazoe Yakuman

>>5098814
Not according to Osamuko and "These rules were written in Baba Hirozaku and Katayama Masayuki's book Bakatsuki Typhoon and are the most widely used rules in Japan"

http://www.osamuko.com/japanese-general-laws-of-mahjong/

>>5098848
nobody cares retard

>>5098848
Tenhou is not osamuko. You best learn tenhou's rules. For instance no double yakumans, no daisharin.

>>5098864
There's plenty of double and triple yakumans on tenhou. Unless you're referring to single yakuman worth more for certain waits.

Sup guys, what kind of articles would you like to see on the blag? We generally won't do 'this way is correct' hard strategy but answering strategy questions by looking for similar examples in our play etc are all fair game.

>>5099127

Pon everything

>>5099127
Stylish ways to slam down a tile.

isn't honroutou supposed to score for chanta as well? at least, according to the sites i read it was.

>>5099127
Strategies to win when one player has a big lead, maybe? Using teamwork, get direct hits, etc.
Bluffing to scare opponents
Trolling in mahjong

>>5099371
>trolling in mahjong
Call a 1000 hand one after another as fast as possible.
It irritates me so much, all the work lost to a practically worthless hand.

>>5099387
The top rooms would make that happen less often, but no one likes playing in them for some reason

>>5099329

Chanta requires at least one straight, Honroutou requires that there are none. However Honroutou does also count for either Toitoi or Chiitoitsu so it always gets at least 4 han.

>>5099393

Kuitan nashi tends to be yakuhai pon palace, resulting in more 1000-point hands.

>trolling in mahjong
see
>>5078350

>>5099387

A single mangan is enough to stop that strategy. Works for me.

>>5099466
good luck building that mangan before mr. open tanyao (or pon yakuhai) calls ron on the 7th discard

>>5099515

That's easy enough to do

>>5099515

This is really only true if all 4 players are going for cheap hands. It's pretty common to end up with a hand that can't go for either tanyao or yakuhai, and then you just have to go for riichi-only or pinfu or something.

i wonder how much differently nashi would be if there was no open yakuhai-only (called yakuhai is a han, but can't be the only yaku like dora) in addition to no open tanyao

>>5099554
That doesn't really make sense either. Remember you have very little control over your hand as it is. Add nashi for like 4x less. Any more restrictions and it's gonna be a pure crapshoot. It's not the open tanyao specifically, it's the possibility of a way out, and threat of dealing into a hand that dictates the pace of play.

>>5099584
yeah shut up thx

Just landed a suuankou, but the funny thing is even if it had been a ron instead, I wound up having uradora 7 (a set and a kan). Add riichi, toitoi, sanankou and nan and I guess it didn't matter how it landed haha

>>5099092
>※役満は複合あり、すべてシングル役満
does this mean each stacked yakuman is 1 yakuman each or everything added up only gives 1 yakuman total
see it says stacked yakuman ari but then says everything single yakuman

>>5099645
Special yakumans such as 13-way Kokushi Musou, 9-way Chuuren Poutou, or Suu an Kou tanki doesn't count as 2 yakuman (32000/48000, not 64000/96000).

You can stack 2 yakuman together, e.g. Tenhou + Chuuren Poutou, or something more common like Tsuu Ii Sou + Dai San Gen for 64000/96000.

>>5099645

Under normal rules, a 13-way wait for 13 orphans would give you a double yakuman (64000 non-dealer, 96000 dealer), but in Tenhou, it only counts as one yakuman. However, if you have all honors + big three dragons, it counts it as each separate yakuman, thus, it's a double yakuman. Tenhou's so retarded when it comes to stuff like this.

>>5099645

If just means that stuff like Kokushi or Chuuren are worth 1 yakuman regardless of your wait.

>>5099645
i know about the first just need clarification on the 2nd, thanks

>>5099645
Yakuman are combined, and they are all one yakuman.

Basically what >>5099652 said.

>>5099662
no need to say it more than once thx

I'm starting to write a mahjong game that I'll eventually have going in flash/.exe much like Tenhou, but I'm designing it with a better lobby system and a much much more extensible ability with rules. I.e. the ability to set a ton of options or house rules for a table, as opposed to just nashi/ari/red5/fast pretty much, think dozens of minor options like sextuple limits, aotenju, certain non standard yaku like daisharin/sanrenkou/openriichi, etc.

Just putting this out there, but is there any custom rules or options you've always wished Tenhou has been able to do or not been satisfied with? Just asking for input since I'm writing the design document up for myself right now.

Actually I'll hold off for input until the new thread, this one's about to die. I'll repost it then.

Wut

>>5100399
haha, replay?

>>5099515
Going for open tanyao every turn is retarded.
Open tanyao is a last resort most of the time or when you have combination tiles like 223/778/443 where you need to call to get into tenpai. It is one skill to know when and where to call open tanyao and when not to call open tanyao.
Just looked at my last 4p game.
East 3 tenpai for sanshoku in 6turns. I doubt calling for open tanyao will get me to tenpai faster.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010050810gm-0049-7447-12d7ea61&tw=0

It feels like 2 Dan is my limit.

>>5100461
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051118gm-0049-0000-fe3345cf&tw=0

>>5100508
Still have no fucking clue why he gave away the White Dragon.

It's a new day and i wonder if i still have the shitty luck as yesterday.

>>5100525
he was in riichi
altho going into riichi against an oya dobuton, sure got some balls there

Oh god, my first daisangen in before lol3p, yes I know

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010051122gm-0011-0000-5f39b182&tw=1&ts=1

I've played mahjong for a year or so now, landed plenty of yakumans versus bots or AI in games (and less commonly against players); dai/shousuuhis, tsuuiisou, rare ryuu iisous, etc, but for some reason I was cursed and could NEVER land a daisangen. It made me feel even better that it was in L0000 too. Maybe the curse will be ended now...

>>5100585
>an oya dobuton
what?

>>5101156
da-buuuu

>>5101156
oya = dealer
dabu = double
ton = ton

east round = 1han
seat win ton = 1han
Dabuton. Get it?

>>5101208
damn my moonspeakfu is still too weak, thanks

>>5101156
>>5101199
ops typo, thanks for that

>>5101104
i almost got a daisangen once in the upper dan room after ponning haku and chun but they betaoried to hell and refused to play my winning tile
seems much harder to get people to play into your hand in the upper dan rooms

Need one more chap for 4P

That's probably because they are more experience players good sir.

>>5101321
yea i know but the skill lvl is way different, it's alot more fun too

Fuck you tenhou.
DC me before the start and I cant even get back in now.

>>5101332
Good my DC bot is working.

Well that was fun

holy shit lose 15 games in a row of 3p in L0000 and your rate turns to shit

i'm almost down to three digits now lol

thread is dead, new one >>5101529

>>5101530
;_;