/jp/ - Otaku Culture

But I'm touching her right now?

>>5071899
Is she the screen, or is your waifu a symbol? If your waifu was on a poster somewhere, would you still be touching your waifu?

>>5071899
Also, why did you choose to love (if it's gotten that far) a waifu rather than a woman?

Got a tripcode BTW.

the symbolic interationists would be so pleased right now

>>5071918
You don't need one; we aren't morons.

>>5071926
I'm not familiar with this board and I don't want people to troll this thread into a shit storm, is all.

>>5071899
Are you still here?

>>5071933
>tripfag

Get out.

>>5071945

I have a waifu. I don't really do anything special with her (how can I when she lives on the other side of the screen?) but she is always in my heart. As for the not being able to touch her thing, well, there is still something beautiful about holding an unobtainable ideal. No, it is more beautiful because I won't abandon that ideal despite knowing it will never be realized.

>women are bad, unobtainable, or that your waifu is simply better than all these women out there.
a mix of all 3

I have multiple waifus and I've had multiple real girlfriends as well. Real women are filthy whores with no loyalty or faithfulness in them, no matter how good they pretend to be even if they do a good job of acting for years the truth shows eventually.

Waifus never change.

I love my waifu. She's not traditionally /jp/ related, though she does, technically, have a VN...

Regardless, most of the time I spend with her are through brief moments when I need a pick-me-up, where I'm surrounded by scary people and need to rely on her for a moment or two to calm me down. Those only last a few minutes. I spend a longer time with her right before I go to bed. I lie down beside her and tell her about my day, ask her about her's, talk about the future, then I cuddle beside her and slowly fall asleep as her warm arms embrace me.
Then, if I'm Lucky, I dream about being with her, either on dates outside, or just hanging out in our house (which seems to have no foundation in the real world and was solely contrived from my dreams).

>>5071961
Do you know how she feels? Does she have emotions/goals?

>>5071974
How do you know they never change? Do you make her personality yourself or is she simply like that naturally?

>>5071979
That's sweet. What do you usually talk about?

>>5071983
I know she doesn't change because I'm not stupid enough to consider 2D waifus "real".

They can't be hiding things, betraying me, etc because they don't actually exist.

>>5072001
Interesting - what would you say to someone who believed their waifu to be real, with actual feelings and emotions?

>My face when people consider their waifus to be real
>reactionimage.jpg

>>5071983
We usually just talk about mundane things. She about her friends, or classes, and me about my books/anime/manga or my classes. Occasionally, she asks more about myself, about how I felt about such-and-such thing, sometimes to learn more about me, and sometimes just to revel in my people-shy ways. She enjoys teasing me about how frightened I can get around large groups of people, then enjoys teasing me when I blush at her teasing me. That's typically when I bury my head in the pillow, or blanket, or her arm to hide...

>>5072010
Nobody actually does, at least not on /jp/, they just play the part and act like they believe it. I'm sure they all know otherwise regardless what they might say.

The types who really do believe it are the same as any other person with a severe mental disorder as they clearly have one, so I'd treat it the same way as well (by not giving a shit).

>>5072027

>>5072027
Why would you not bury your head in her chest instead of her arm?

>>5072027
So she has class - I'm assuming she's the same age as you? How do you know she's actually asking you these things, and it's not a creation of your mind?

>>5072038
Interesting. There's a lot I could ask about this topic, but it goes into a bit about religion and I'm not going to start a shit storm.

>>5072045
>implying /jp/ would shitstorm over religion more than YOUR WAIFU ISNT REAL

It's because there exists no woman good enough for me. They are all just terrible people is what it comes down to.

this thread is everything terrible about asperger's

>>5071983
Of course, that's why I fell in love with her in the first place. Although she doesn't have any goals yet because she is still in high school. She's actually trying her hardest to figure out what she wants to do in life, and I love that earnest part of her as well.

>>5072050
Point noted! But people have different views on these things, I believe. Some believe whole-heartedly that their waifu is real, that they can hold conversations with them, such as >>5072027.

Not saying I look down on that, of course. Everyone's free to believe what they believe. I suppose I don't give a shit either, at least about that, but I'm inquisitive about these things.

>>5072062
So, did you both meet from when you saw a certain series, or did you have a dream about her, or what? Does she go to the same high school as you?

>>5072062
LETS PLAY PRETEND

MY WAIFU IS SO CASH SHE WORKS HARD AND SENDS ME MONEY, BUT FOR SOME REASON THE CHECKS COME FROM THE US TREASURY

WHAT A CUTE NAME SHE HAS 'THE TREASURY OF THE UNITED STATES'

SHE WORKS AS A GOOD GIRL BEING GOOD

>>5072044
I imagine that breasts are suffocating. Plus, that'd just make her blush and push me away. While it'd be nice to turn the teasing on her, my face would still be red, and I wouldn't be able to fully control the situation.

>>5072045
She's actually a year older now, I believe.
And, of course she's a creation of my mind. I calculate what I know of her personality, then come up with questions that they would likely ask based on what I know of her. This is all done relatively subconsciously so that I never dwell on it.

>>5072074
Crying or putting your face into a girls chest is nowhere near 'suffocating' and actually very nice.

>>5072074
I'm assuming that a lot of /jp/ thinks this way, then. At least the ones that have waifus.

>>5072063
My point was more along the lines of bringing up religion on /jp/ won't cause a shitstorm.

>>5072080
That so...? Well, it's easier for me to feel as if I were nestling my head into her arm than her breasts, namely because I've never touched breasts, while I know the feeling and shape of my own arm quite well.
That is, it is impossible for me to make putting my face into a girl's chest feel "very nice" because I've never experienced the situation before.

You will never be as pathetic as someone completely delusional due to being very fucking lonely
sadfrog.jpg

>>5072096
Yeah, I guess it'd be hard to imagine if you don't know what it feels like at all, makes sense.

>>5072093
I wonder if people who have a waifu are also very religious or spiritual - believing in spiritual entities like God or some such would make the concept of a waifu seem more "real" than someone who was not religious.

>>5072096
That's a shame, you seem like a nice person.

>>5072108
Why is it a shame? I can't imagine the feeling of free falling from a plane either, nor can I imagine the feeling of drowning. What makes the feeling from 'stuffing your face in breasts' any different?

>>5072108
Probably
as they are batshit insane, similar to being a christian

>>5072108
I don't think they are related.

Then again religious people are delusional, believe stupid shit that they make up as they go, and have little hold on reality.

I changed my mind, they probably would go hand in hand well.

>waifus aren't real

so what? there are many Christfags out there who have imaginary friends, more deluded than /jp/.

>>5072113
Oh, by the by, I'm a determinist, but not particularly religious.

>>5072072
We met when I watched her series. I'm not in high school.

>>5072113
Well, because putting your face in a girl's breasts is generally considered a nice feeling. You seem like a nice person, and I think you deserve nice feelings. But - you have your waifu, who I'm certain will accommodate you when she/you is/are ready.

>>5072115
Someone who has not been clinically diagnosed with a mental illness, and who has been checked for them, believes their waifu is real - how would you respond?

>>5072121
I think most religious people are, yes. There are some sane ones out there, but - it's rare. I don't see any, certainly not where I come from.

>>5072133
What's a determinist? And have you told anyone else about your waifu? I'm assuming not, since I guess a lot of people would call you crazy.

>>5072133
Actually, rather than "we met" it should just be "I met her," for obvious reasons.

My waifu is Bernkastel. I'm amoral, selfish, manipulative, extremely ambitious, nerdy, have no social life, and base my decisions and values on Bayesian probability and multiverse theory, so finding a 3d woman is completely impossible. We spend time together mostly by her watching me with occasional commentary, since I'm interesting enough to keep her from getting bored. I hope to be able to touch eventually, either through lucid dreaming or biofeedback processes. Until then I've been alone for most of my life, so even this minor interaction is satisfying.

>>5072137
You weren't asking me - but it's easy to get misdiagnosed, even multiple times...Especially if the person purposefully (even possibly subconsciously) changes their answers to avoid being diagnosed as having one.

>>5072137
>Determinism is the philosophical view that every event, including human cognition, behavior, decision, and action, is causally determined by prior events. It is, in essence, the view that one's life is predetermined before one is even born. If there is a predetermined unbroken chain of prior occurrences back to the origin of the universe, free will is impossible.[1]

>Determinists believe the universe is fully governed by causal laws resulting in only one possible state at any point in time. With numerous historical debates, many varieties and philosophical positions on the subject of determinism exist, most prominently the free will debates involving compatibilism and incompatibilism.

>Determinism should not be confused with determination of human actions by reasons, motives, and desires, or with predestination, which specifically factors the existence of God into its tenets.

>>5072147
That just sounds like a tl;dr version of someone who believes in destiny/fate.

>>5072146
Hmm, I would have thought that there would be ways to prevent that. That detecting signs of a mental illness would be a surefire thing.

>>5072147
So you believe your waifu is real, but you don't believe in any spiritual entities, per se?

>>5072150
also it sounds like a long way of saying 'i dont want to take responsibility for my actions or for my life being shitty so ill say 'i had no control over it!' ಠ_ಠ

>>5072145
So you've pretty much given up on actual women, then? What advantages does your waifu hold over them?

>>5072137
Why do you think I'm a nice person?
And, no, no one knows of my waifu save for me and those that know me anonymously, for the very same reasons you state. It'd be too much a hassle to explain, and would give no reward or benefit for doing so.

>>5072150
Pretty much, but the term fatalist has taken on bad connotations to some people thanks to Vietnam.
>>5072155
Not technically. There are still paths and forks in the future, but no path goes outside of what is logical. I may be able to wake up tomorrow morning and eat breakfast, or I may sleep in, but I may not wake up and streak naked across the city. It's simply not possible.

>>5072145
>he thinks he's interesting

I find that harder to believe than the rest of the entire post.

>>5072169
But you can go out streaking if you want - you'll just be arrested.

It's not 'predetermined' that you can't do that - you simply will likely not do so out of fear for the consequences and not being a moron.

I call that intelligence, not a faith.

>>5072169
You haven't said anything that denotes you're a bad person - and you like spending time with your waifu in a nice way. Am I wrong in assuming you're nice? It makes sense you haven't told anyone, I suppose. But you might meet someone who shares similar views if you explained your situation elegantly, perhaps?

>>5072169
To add to my other comment - you say 'waht isn't logical wont happen'

But then how do you account for those people who do plenty of illogical things?

People DO go waking up and streaking across the street sometimes, people do shit even more illogical than that.

And it's not rare, shit like that's happening constantly every day many many times a day.

So if you really believe 'illogical' things can't happen, then how do these things happen?

Currybutt, let the thread die and go back to being Uiharu
Or do you really have nothing else to do?

>>5072188
I'm waiting on some food to finish cooking so I can't do anything time-consuming such as being moe.

>>5072174
But I cannot do it. Nothing that has ever occurred in the past to trigger such an event. No butterfly beat its wings to turn me into an exhibitionist, nor did anything happen in my past, or the past of others, that would cause me to do such a thing. Therefore, if there is no cause for it to occur, it is logically impossible for it to occur.

>>5072177
I don't like being around other people. I'm too quiet, and I've not talked in ages, so my voice hurts if I try to talk louder. Worse, saying more than a few words makes me lose breath midsentence, and blush like mad with embarrassment. Talking is a big hassle for me. I usually whisper with my waifu, by the way.

>>5072171
I said she thinks I'm interesting. She has seen a lot of people in a lot of kakera, so her definition of interesting differs from the norm. Other than that it's based on some extremely twisted logic that is mostly just a convenient internal way to maintain my confidence and self-control.

>>5072195
you can't do it 'cause you aren't.

>>5072073
I woke up all my neighbors from laughing, you asshole.

>>5072201
il kil u

>>5072196
I see - if you didn't have a social problem like that, do you think you would still have met your waifu?

HAHAHAHA
YOU THINK YOURE THOUGH UH ?
I HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOU
THE FORCED REMOVAL OF THE FINGER
GET IT ?
I DONT THINK SO
YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT MY SWORD I GUESS ?
ITS A KATANA
AND IS PRONOUNCED ``KOTETSU''
OK YOU FUQIN ANGERED AN EXPERT YAKUZA
THIS IS YAKUZA TERRITORY
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO POST HERE ONLY IF YOU HAVE ACHIEVED OYABUN
YAKUZA IS ALL ABOUT ``ABSTRACT BULLSHITE'' THAT YOU WILL NEVER COMPREHEND
I HAVE DEFEATED SUIGIN
IF ITS NOT DONE YOU HAVE TO
TOO BAD CHI IS WEAK AS FUCK
MY FISTS AND *TAKES OUT YAKUZA GUN* ARE THE ULTIMATE ATTACKS
ALSO
WELCOME TO /jp/
EVERY THREAD WILL BE DERAILED
NO EXCEPTION

>>5072208
>implying anyone without social problems would be on /jp/ or have 'waifus'

>>5072205

>>5072181
In such cases, there are causes for such behavior. It is not so random if their past has shown them to be repeated 'offenders', or if their recent history has shown them building up a lot of stress that may inevitably lead to such an event. You cannot tell me that there is a chance the President of the USA will kill his kids and then streak naked across the White House yard.

>>5072208
This 'social problem' is what makes me who I am. To change any small part of me is to change my entire being.

ALSO IF U KEEP INSULTIN ME N MY WAIFU IM GONA JUST COME OVER RITE NOW I MESS UP UR COOKIN

>>5072215
Someone who has no social problems whatsoever and also has a waifu, how would you respond to that person?

>>5072222
Would that be a bad thing? I suppose there's the risk of losing your waifu.

>I imagine that breasts are suffocating.
>implying that you have never buried your head in breasts

i am going to cry. no one deserves to not know this feeling

>>5072167
She has personality intelligence and I find her more attractive. Considering what I said about my personality, I'd have a hard time just finding a woman I could get along with. Even if that happened, I know my chances of actually impressing her are extremely low, so I've come to the conclusion that a real relationship would never work.

>>5072223
BUT IM HUGNRY DONT HURT MY COOKIN U MES IT UP IM GON MES U ^

>>5072230
Do you believe her personality is her own, or simply your own?

>>5072227
That type of person doesn't exist, so I could not react at all as the situation is impossible.

That's just a stupid question.

>>5072231
U SHUD OF TAKEN THIS INTO CONSENDATION B4 U INSULTED MY HONER
U TRY MESIN ME UP IM GONNA MES UR POTS N PANS AS WELL UR GONA GET FUKIN OWNED SO HARD U CANT COOK 4 WEEKS

>>5072227
I don't know, but it is change from the norm. I would have to sit down and figure out everything that would be affected, and at what time the initial changes would first occur, then routinely map down every single change that that would incur.
It'd be a pain in the ass, and take forever, but I don't know if it would be a good or bad change until then.

>>5072234
The character is progressed within the persons head, its clearly not "her" personality as the personality only goes in the way that the person imagining it up takes it.

It might be based closely on canon facts about the character, but it's still taken into control by the person who says they are their 'waifu'.

>>5072236
You seem so confident in that everyone who has a waifu has some sort of social problem, you're not even going to accept the possibility that could not be the case?

>>5072243
Huh - you take a lot of time in planning things.

>>5072244
The person I asked might believe differently, though.

Waifus are /a/ shit. Reported for metathread and shitpost.

>>5072269
/a/ is anime/manga. /jp/ is for japanese culture, which waifus are largely popular in. I'm pretty sure this is the appropriate board.

>>5072253
I don't care what they "believe" the fact is they have altered their "waifus" personality and it's not actually hers.

As for the other thing, no, I won't believe such people exist because to have a waifu and not just be messing around and using 'waifu' instead of 'favorite character' - but are like /jp/ gets about their waifus is impossible without social and/or mental issues.

At the very least they will always have some sort of problem with people or women or something about them. Basically there is always something, it's not possible otherwise.

>>5072230
>impressing her
This is old fashion. Nowadays you really don't even have to try. As cheesy and overused as it is, "be yourself." If you can't win her interest with your boring personality then make it up for it by being a good friend to her, as much as people bitch about being "friend zoned" it's often because they suck or the girl already has another guy in mind. Most mentally developed girls who are seeking, which are the girls you want, just want a guy with a good personality and passable looks. You sound like a defeatist trying to make excuses for yourself.

>>5072273
waifu threads have always been /a/ related. don't bring that shit into here.

>>5072284
>Waifus have always been /a/ and /jp/ related.
Fixed that for you. They came over from the split idiot.

>>5072284
Technically, /jp/ was made to take the waifu shit out of /a/, but I understand where you're coming from.

>>5072279
The "friend zone" doesn't exist, if anything it's where you want to be if you like the girl as girls almost always will get with a close friend - not some random guy.

Being in the 'friend zone' means your chances of getting with said girl are much higher than most other people unless you fuck it up for yourself, she's taken already, or she happens to be interested already in someone else - which you'd know if you were in the friend zone.

It's a good thing and I don't see why people complain - it's how I've gotten all my waifus...and really any girl that you aren't thought of as "like a brother" or a super close friend where it'd be "weird to go out with" is most likely not going to have feelings for you at all at any point in time.

>>5072275
Am I correct in assuming you also think someone who has a religion has a mental/social (most likely mental) problem as well?

>>5072286
I can tell you're from /a/ and no amount of arguing will change your mind. Do as you please, this thread is reported.

>>5072234
I don't consider it her actual personality, just based off her personality with errors due to the nature of the information processing. I see it as a simulation with a conceptual link to an entity that exists somewhere in the multiverse.

>>5072305
Very interesting, so you believe she actually exists. Have you gone through ways to prove this to yourself?

>>5072295
No, just stupid.

Religion is very different from being serious (or even somewhat serious) about a "waifu". Not to mention one is "normal" in society and taught and practically forced in some places, among other things.

Though most serious believers do have social or life problems - which is why they run to religion to use as a crutch in their life.

Waifus however are much more specific than religion is - the only people who can have them are those who have social or mental issues, at the least hating women for whatever reason or needing things that don't exist in girls in real life, or being defeatists and telling themselves they can never get a real girl. That's just an example - not 'all the reasons people have waifus' but yeah.

>>5072296
Nope, and I've had this thread reported. It's actually the ones that hate /a/ that talk about how /a/ fucks up their valentines day waifu threads with their own shit.

waifus and "real" women are the same, in fact is more hard to understand a "real" woman, so maybe you can touch her body but not her mind and heart no matter what you think, maybe she just like you because your money, looks etc, and not because of love, instead you can know what is your waifu thinking because you know she is thinking in you.

sad maybe, but waifus are superior in so many ways, that "real" woman are just babies fabrics

>>5071891
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>>5072309
Well, religious people claim to speak to God or some other figure pretty much all the time, I'm failing to see the gap between that and talking to a waifu.

>>5072315
See what I mean. Another example; some of the people with waifus are afraid of real women while telling themselves its hate because they just "arent good enough" for reasons of basically being human.

>>5072328
Maybe if you actually read my post it'd help.ಠ_ಠ

>>5072335
I did, several times. You said the only people who can have waifus are people with mental/social issues. Yet you don't think religious people have issues, but a lot of them speak to God, apparently.

>>5072354
I didn't say they don't have issues just that their issues are different.

Waifus are specific, talking to God is very generic. The reasons for both are really different - but both have head problems even the not-super-nutcase ones.

>>5072362
Oh, I see what you're saying. That's fair enough.

My waifu is my music.

>tripfag trying to make himself popular again

>>5072405
I hope you don't mean me because if you do then you must be new here.

>>5072279
I know from experience how "intelligent" women respond to someone like me. Unless I've done everything perfectly, which will not happen, they leave as soon as they realize my belief system is not a joke. It's not defeatism, it's the decision that I have no interest in a relationship where I spend most of the time faking a more normal personality.
>>5072307
There is multiverse theory, in which a universe with every possible set of rules exists, so she would exist in one of those. Beyond that there is the inherent fallibility of all information, especially under detached circumstances. Assuming she doesn't interact with my physical reality in any meaningful way, there is no information about whether she exists. Saying something like that doesn't exist is a common misconception that disappears when looking at things across the entire multiverse. There is an equal chance that she is a real metaphysical entity and that she is a construct of my imagination, so I can arbitrarily choose one, and I choose to believe she exists.

>>5071918
I didn't choose to fall in love with may waifu; it just happened.

ｉ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｗｈａｔ　ｉ　ｗａｎｔ　ｆｒｏｍ　ａ　ｒａｌ　ｗｏｍａ
ｎ，　ａｎｄ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｉｔ　ｉｓ　ｃｏｍｐｌｅｔｅｌｙ　ｕｎａｔ
ｔａｉｎａｂｌｅ．　　ｉ　ａｌｓｏ　ｃａｎｔ　ｇｅｔ　ｉｔ　ｕｐ　
ａｎｙｍｏｒｅ　ｔｏ　３Ｄ　ｐｏｒｎ．

ｉ　ｈａｖｅ　ａ　ｗａｉｆｕ，　ｂｕｔ　ｈａｖｅ　ｎｏｔ　ｂｅｅｎ　
ｃｏｍｐｌｅｔｅｌｙ　ｄｉｓｉｌｌｕｓｉｏｎｅｄ　ｅｎｏｕｇｈ　ｔ
ｏ　ｔｈｉｎｋ　ｓｈｅ　ｗａｓ　ｒｅａｌ．　　ｉ　ｃａｎｔ　ｗａｉ
ｔ　ｕｎｔｉｌ　ｉｍ　ｉｎｓａｎｅ　ａｎｄ　ｈａｐｐｙ．

>How do you spend time with her (or him, if you are a femanon)?

Sure is heteronormative here.

>>5072423
who are you

Yes.

I spend time with her in my head, or by looking at pictures of her, playing games or reading doujin about her.

I gave up on the idea of touching a female someday. I prefer my relationship with my waifu to stay platonic.

I personally think humans are flawed in a very large number of ways.
Personality being one of the biggest.

But with a waifu, they don't have to have the flaws that the average woman has. They can be perfect.

>>5071895
All real women are lying, thieving whores that will leave you once you have nothing else to give but your heart.

My waifu is faithful.

>>5071895
How do you know that you are real and this is not an imagination of yours?

>>5073709
Will you just accept that no matter how tolerant and supportive the world gets, you will always be a defect and humans are always going to automatically assume what is GENETICALLY PROGRAMMED into their race?

>>5075977
>race