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You can find the translation for Touhou games at Touhou wiki, also google it.

Yes
Patch for UFO.
Yes.

What anime?

Play Perfect Cherry Blossom first
don't play on easymodo
USE continues

you don't need to download anything to play them except the games

www.touhou.wikia.com has the translation patches

no anime

Play PCB first.
You'll probably need your east asian languages installed, but I might be wrong.
Translation patches are at the wiki.

PCB first.
Use dat google.
Will post misc tips after food.

Not OP, but why PCB first?

>>5069734
nerd

>>5069771
Not OP either, but I'm wondering the same thing. He should obviously start with EoSD to develop a sense of hitbox.

Everyone says play PCB first, but really, IN works just as fine too.
Unless you play with Border Team

>>5069771
Because PCB's difficulty is really good for starters and it has borders which will help the newbie survive a little longer.

I played EoSD first. It's the first in the (real) series and has simpler danmaku (not gimmicky) which is great for beginner practice. Don't play on easy mode.

Whats all this love for PCB about.
I'd recommened EoSD if you're new or MoF if you want something a little easier.
Shouldn't need anything to download extra except the english patches
if you want them.

One vote for EoSD here.
I think it has the least 'weird shit' in it.

I started off with EoSD and went through numerically, and I dunno why people are suggesting PCB and IN. with EoSD, I feel that it forces you to naturally learn where your hitbox is, which helped a lot in the long run.

Not saying you're wrong and I'm right, just wondering why.

Do not start with IN. It has some gameplay mechanics which give you bad habits. PCB is probably the best one start on in my opinion.

Dont even really need the english patches.

Although I did have to put my computer into japanese locale for Double Spoiler for some reason.. Doesnt really bother me because i'd been meaning to switch back for some other doujin games.

>>5069791
>>5069777

These. Simpler patterns let you take it easy while learning not to rely on focus to show your hitbox (since that feature wasn't added till the next game).

EoSD is too easy.
Yes I know it doesn't have a visible hitbox, it's still too easy.

Op here
Thanks for all the great answers guys.
I think I may start with PCB first. If I find it too hard or I dont follow, then I'll start with EoSD

>>5069787
Ah okay.


I started with EoSD, even though I still don't know where Reimu's Hitbox is exactly (Marisa's is more easier to spot I guess)/

>>5069803
Doesn't do much when Touhou isn't his first shooter, but if it is I guess that would apply.
You can't afford to be staring at your hitbox anyway, though.

>>5069798
You're right. MoF is a lot easier than EoSD except for Kanako's final spell card.

Op here again:
What's a hitbox? And what are borders?

>>5069817
If you start with PCB you will develop a habit of relying being able to see your hitbox. This is a bad habit. I suggest EoDS first. It's simply better to begin with interms of gameplay, danmaku and overall presentation. Plus you are introduced to the characters.

>>5069837
Play the game and you'll find out.

>>5069837
Look it up on the wiki.
Hitboxes are where collisions are detected. They are often not as large as player and bullet sprites. If your hitbox and the bullet hitbox collide, bang, you're dead.

>>5069837
If the hitboxes of a bullet and the player meet, the player dies. It's the area you can be hit and take damage.

Cherry borders is a gameplay element in PCB which grants temporary invincibility if you collect 50000 cherry points.

>>5069852
Ah, so more or less like a force field that if anything crosses game over.

>>5069837
Touhous can be shot anywhere on their body except their center mass.

Touching them is extremely sensitive and can be erogenous as well as painful.

This is the hitbox.

See, that's why he shouldn't start with anything other than EoSD; everything else has some kind of gimmick that will only slow his progress down.

>>5069871
but EoSD is mad easy

>>5069874
Isn't that the perfect game for a beginner then?

>>5069874
Stop saying that! You're making me feel bad.

>>5069874
>Perfect for beginners

I rest my case.

>>5069874
Not mad easy enough for a beginner, it will still provide a challenge high enough to keep him going.

>>5069877
>>5069880
but that will only make him suck at the other games!

>>5069885
>Implying there is no challenge in EoSD Hard or Lunatic

>>5069885
But he will improve and will also have the gimmicks on his side.

>>5069892
i never implied that
a beginner won't try it on the hardest difficulties

>>5069905
Firstly, when he does a 1cc of Normal on EoSD, he will move up to Hard. Secondly getting practice with "pure" danmaku without gimmicks in EoSD will give him more freedom to master the gimmicks in later games.

>>5069834
Scarlet Gensokyo is worse than VoWG.

EoSD is harder than PCB, MoF, and IN, though.

Start with PCB, easiest one (for me)

be a man and start with UFO

PCB has the greatest music so far(else tried TEoSD, IN, MoF)
%%also, why are there Graze points?%%

>>5069964
I may just be a special case here, then. I usually just 1cc on normal and move on but I decided once to try EoSD Lunatic to see what all the fuss was about and ended up capturing Scarlet Gensokyo. I can see where it's bad, but really, Kanako's Mountain of Faith (normal) gives me more trouble than Scarlet Gensokyo (lunatic).

>>5069981
>>be a man and start with SA
Fixed that for you. UFO is a joke if you don't let the UFOs tempt you into being a retard and curvy lasers don't bother you.

>>5070058
>let the UFOs tempt you into being a retard
That usually summarizes my playthroughs.

Any help on Parsee's Spellcards? I always lose those.

> Kanako's Mountain of Faith (normal) gives me more trouble than Scarlet Gensokyo (lunatic).

what the fuck...

>>5070074
Just practice. Every Touhou game is designed to rape beginners at Stage 2.

>>5070074
Just practice. She's the hardest stage 2 in my opinion. You kinda get used to how to pace your movements eventually.

>>5070043
Yeah, I think you're a special case. I've only tried Kanako's last spell on hard two or three times, but the last time I got through it with four bombs, which are abundant. For me that makes it easier than a few normal last spells, and perhaps all but Yuyu's hard last spell.

>>5070091
Yeah, I wish I were trolling when I made that statement but it confounds me to no end as well. I guess I just really suck at unfocused movement.

That's enough. It's not funny.

>>5070074
Learn intermediate streaming skills, and you'll have most of her beaten on normal easily. On higher difficulties you have to dodge while you stream...

I dont think the spammer understands he's keeping a thread he doesn't like way up top on the front page, and attracting attention to keep it bumped.

You've got about 200 posts of this before it gets bumped off the board.

tl;dr: y r u so dum

>>5070179
230 actually

Why do this to a helpful thread and not one of the myriad horrible ones that float through here every day?

>>5070074
What the guy said about streaming. Her first end of level spell card is fairly easy if you just circle the screen but you won't kill her very quickly that way. Generally there's a large enough gap between the streams she leaves behind that you can follow her across the screen with enough practice and end the card quickly. Just make sure to stay on the move and don't let the streams congregate in the same spot.

With the one where there's two of her, always stop firing when she disappears, move to the other side of the screen, then resume firing. Green bullet spam is the only thing here that should kill you.

On her final card (on normal, anyway), again, you can survive easily by simply circling the screen, albeit much more slowly here than you would go on her first card. Just use the charging sound as an indicator for when you need to get ready to move again.

touhou will make you frustrated

Go to bed, Wallachia

>>5070152
Eh, Streaming?

OP here.
I hate the asswipe that's spamming, but I really want to say thank you to all that helped.
I expected a horrible backlash of hate for being a newbie to the game, but was very happy to see this was not the case.
Thanks guys. (might just delete the thread now)

>>5070259
Slowly progressing from one side of the screen to the other at just such a speed that the bullet pattern parts around you. Watch a few replays on youtube, and you'll get a sense of what it's like. raak1010 is a good user to watch--explains some things about each boss.

>>5069722
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>>5070266
Nah, dont do it.
Keep the asshat busy and chance of him getting banned.
Or at least that particular proxy.

KATTO

>>5070284
Alright, that makes sense. I'll keep it open then.

Glorious meido victory?

Just played EoSD for the first time in forever. Not being able to see my hitbox hurts me alot more than I thought it would.
Also, is it just me, or is homing Reimu absolutely terrible in this game?

>>5070316

Homing Reimu is terrible in every game.

>>5070316
Tastes will vary, but I don't play the miko at all in EotSD. Marisa's speed is very manageable, and the added damage to bring down spellcards quickly really shows itself in that game. Makes a joke out of Extra-level Patchy.

>>5070316
Homing Reimu is usually terrible, but EoSD is unusual in that Sealing Needles aren't high-tier.

OP here.
EoSD is done downloading, and another two hours for PCB. Thinking I might wait for PCB, but then again I already have EoSD ready to go, What should I do?

>>5070342

Get the graphic and sound patch for EoSD.

Unfortunately, It won't fix the terrible music.

>>5069723
YOU GONNA GET RAPED!

>>5070342
Start playing on normal mode.

Don't be afraid to bomb a lot. Use continues. Play frequently.

>>5070352
No, he should play it unpatched.

>>5070366
OP here
Why unpatched? Makes sense to fix what's broken doesn't it?

>>5070342
Take it easy. Depending on how you are about video games, it might be easy to drop dead the first few times and give up. Don't. You develop skill quickly, and the games are very fun when you're ready for the challenge.
There's a lot to explore in Touhou, so enjoy.
My personal favorites are Subterranean Animism and Mountain of Faith, both of which have a great atmosphere in addition to challenge.

OP, I recommend you download Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler when you get the chance. The practice you get for spellcard strategizing from playing these two games really helps. Makes you think about the danmaku a lot more. It also upgrades your tenacity if you manage to slog through them.

>>5070371
Nothing is broken.

FUCK YES TURBO MAID

>>5070371
That may be based on taste, actually. I suggest playing stage 1 or so without the patch, then playing it with the patch, and seeing which one you like more.
Don't listen to Shifty by the way. He's a faget.

>>5070388
I wouldn't wish it on a beginner. At least for me, the higher tiers of those games are the pinnacle of frustration. Let the guy get a little danmaku experience first, methinks.

OP here.
Just opened up EoDS. Here I go. Wish me luck.

>>5070342
Play EoSD. Play them both once you get PCB, decide which one you like more.

...
Shit, he knows about holding shift for focused movement, right?

>>5070426
How could we forget?

>>5070436
I don't know.
But the only occurrence of "shift" here is in Shifty's name.

>>5070447
Well, at least EoSD is relatively beatable without focused movement.

>>5070461
Shut up.
;_;

>>5070465
Sup Kefit?

Op here:
Pressing shift and I change around.
Whats this do?

>>5070484
Slows you down for navigating dense patterns and usually makes you shoot in a narrower space, doing more damage in a smaller area.

>>5070488
Thanks bro. On stage 2. Hard? Yes. Fun? YES

>>5070505
It really picks up if you get to stage 4.

>>5070520
Another question: When I'm using bombs, is it using both spells? Going too fast for me to notice

>>5070535
Don't think so, no. There's a bomb for focus and a bomb for unfocused.

>>5070535
If you mean do you still shoot when you're bombing, yes, unless you're using Marisa B.

>>5070553
But that's on PCB and IN. EoSD doesn't have variant bombs depending on your focus state.

>>5070569
It doesn't? Huh. Deleting.

>>5070553
>>5070569
Op here. Doesnt seem theres a different bomb for for focused and unfocused. So how do I switch bombs (theyre called spell cards right?)?

>>5070535
This largely depends on the game and situation. In EoSD every character starts with the same number of bombs (2, I believe) and upon death it is restored back to that number. Using a bomb will deplete one counter under "spell". In other games, certain characters will receive bonus bombs if they die while still having some left. In Imperishable Night, if you death bomb after the normal timer's up but you're still in that retarded IN-only long death bomb window, it will use two instead of the normal one as a penalty.

tl;dr, in EoSD, no, you only use one "spell" per bomb.

>>5070595
By playing different shottypes which you choose from at the very beginning. Each shottype has their own specific bomb and shottypes can't be changed mid-game.

>>5070599
EoSD is three bombs per life. Unless you make it less in the options menu, but what purpose would that have?

I would say EoSD because it's the most basic one, the other ones are full of gimmicks and most shot types are not pratical for begginers

Or maybe PCB since EoSD lacks the enemy mark at the bottom of the screen and this shit really makes your like easier

>>5070615
But you get two bomb types per shottype dont you?

I love you guys

>>5070635
No, only one spellcard per shottype. It lists the regular shot's name and the spellcard. There are four shottypes. Two for each character.

>>5070635
No, there's a shot type and a bomb type.

>>5070663
>>5070672
Ah thanks guys. Was really confused.

>>5070693

What shot type are you using? The homing, needle, laser, or pine tree one?

>>5070316
I'm still playing EoSD. Not so good...
Ugh, is it because I haven't played it for so long, or is it because I was really leaning on a visable hitbox?

>>5070709
>Pine tree one

Fuck you, now i'll never unsee it.

>>5070709
Homing I think. How can I tell?

>>5070721
Do you have white things homing in to your enemies in addition to a cone of stuff? That's homing.

>>5070731
Nope. I died and lost the game, and I think I was using homing then. Now I'm using needles I believe

>>5070740
You're using the two worse shot types, in my opinion.

>>5070721
Homing is Reimu A, top option for Reimu.
...uh, Reimu's the red/white one.
You've got the translation patch, right?

>>5070747
Yes I do.
Now I understand what "homing amulet" is :P

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>>5070756
You're gonna go far, kid.

Don't forget to download the vsync patch

>>5070798
whats it do?

>>5070798
I've never bothered with that stuff, is it really necessary? I mean, I just 1cc'd PCB hard without it just fine. It seems like it might be a little worse in EoSD... Should I bother? Maybe it's why Flandre is one of the few Extra bosses I haven't beaten.

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>>5070805
Some people occasionally get a slight lag when playing the games which can mess up intricate dodging. The VSync patch insures the games play smoothly.

>>5070821
Where can I get it?

>>5070831
http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up3/file/th3_8419.zip

I believe one of the readmes contains instructions on use.

>>5070743
This is something I've always been undecided on. For survival runs, do I go Reimu or Marisa? Reimu has the smaller hitbox but weaker shot types (in general). Better for surviving, but you'll likely be forced to survive for longer. Basically, new guy, just go through the different shot types. Play one till you get a game over then instead of continuing, switch to a new one. Here's some pros and cons of each character/shot type.

Reimu A - Small hit box and homing amulets allow you to focus purely on dodging rather than tracking the boss to deal damage. Bomb is mediocre, nothing special.

Reimu B - A more focused shot than Reimu A so it can dispatch enemies quicker but it doesn't track enemies and it's still weaker than Marisa. Weak bomb, too, but you still have a small hitbox. Despite the inherent drawbacks, this was still the first character and shot type that I used to 1cc EoSD.

Marisa A - Something of a mix between Reimu A and Reimu B that put on weight. Larger hitbox, moves faster than Reimu, and has highly focused shots that deal higher amounts of damage. More than Reimu B by far. Mediocre full screen encompassing bomb like Reimu A, although I'd rate Reimu A's higher.

Marisa B - Still fast, fat, and focused, but now with piercing. Moderately powerful and has a really nice bomb. Lasts long, encompasses the entire screen (if you're near the bottom, and does considerable damage. I think this was the second one I 1cc'd with.

Conclusion - pick whichever one you like best. They all have their merits, even Reimu B (although the her biggest "bonus" is that she has higher damage than Reimu A while still having a smaller hitbox).

>>5070846
Yeah, but it's in moon.

>>5070864
Isn't Reimu's hitbox the same as Marisa's in EoSD?

>>5070805
Removes input lag, especially at EoSD, IN, and PCB.

>>5070814
It increase your performance. If you can 1cc PCB without it, with it maybe you can 1cc Lunatic.

>>5070831
http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up3/file/th3_8419.zip for th 6-11
http://coolier.sytes.net:8080/th_up4/img/th4_1057.zip for th 12

>>5070821
Playing with a gamepad seems to prevent the input lag. Think it has something to do with pressing two arrow keys at once, which a lot of people do when trying to move left/right quickly. It's only for a fraction of a second, but it happens.

>>5070884
I don't play with a gamepad either, but maybe my keyboard just doesn't suck.

>>5070869
I think they still have different hitbox sizes, it's just that in EoSD Reimu doesn't have the larger death bomb window like she does in later games. Of course, the death bomb timer in EoSD is just plain brutal to begin with.

>>5070864
>Reimu B - A more focused shot than Reimu A so it can dispatch enemies quicker but it doesn't track enemies and it's still weaker than Marisa. Weak bomb, too, but you still have a small hitbox. Despite the inherent drawbacks, this was still the first character and shot type that I used to 1cc EoSD.

Actually she has the highest damage of all options, you just have to get right up to the boss and shotgun into their face. A lot of patterns have a bit of a windup time that gives you enough of a window to take off a quarter to a half of their life bar before you have to move away.

>>5070864
You should remember too that for each shot types has different Patchouli battles. I've told that Marisa B or Reimu A have the easiest Patchouli battle, but personally I don't know about that.

Oh and Reimu A homing lets you to focus on dodging at Remilia's last card, and Marisa B's bomb to skip most of hard part of the game. I think those two are the best shot type.

>>5070899
I'm pretty sure it would be mentioned somewhere if that were the case. Remember, Reimu never had a smaller hitbox in prior games.

>>5070899
Not that brutal. Most of arcade games don't have deathbombs to begin with, and that one seihou game, shuushoku gyoku ... have minus deathbomb frame.

>>5070865
Okay, move all files without a game number appended to them into the main folder of the game you wish to patch. It should be the same place where the exe is. Then also move the file with the game you're patching's number into that folder. Then use the VPatch.exe to start up the game in vsync mode. The vpatch uses the exe with the original Jappanese name though. For all the games besides EoSD this is just th07.exe, th08.exe or something similar. For EoSD it's 東方紅魔郷.exe

Simply rename th06e.exe into that to use the vsync patch for EoSD.

>>5070939
Yeah, switching between Shuusou Gyoku and EoSD is brutal on your habits.

>>5070946
Thanks a bunch.

>>5070939
>minus deathbomb
What the shit? I knew something was up.
Playing Touhou really killed my bombing reflexes, which I still rely heavily on as I'm no god with STGs.

Read this for strategy and guide.

>>5070805
Also enables you to slow down the game (if you want to do Lunatic at 20FPS, for example) or run at e.g. 90 or 120FPS if you feel the need for speed.

>>5070992
Playing at 20 fps? That's worse than easy modo.

>>5071074
NOT IF YOUR COMPUTER IS SO OLD THAT ALL IT CAN DO IS 20 YOU INSENSITIVE CLOD! Besides no one will ever be able to beat my highscore....

>>5071092
>Taking 3x as long to finish a game

>>5071092
What highscore?

play IN at least for 5 months, master the death bombing. dominate all the other touhous.

>>5070946

I've 1cc'ed EoSD on lunatic once, and I've even managed to capture Scarlet Gensokyo too. I didn't even know that this patch existed, so I am dying to try it out.

But I can't get it to work. Any thoughts? Would having the English patch make a difference?

isn't touhou that shooting game for girls that ripped off the mcdonalds song

Whats these 1ccs everyone talks about

>>5071759
It's the amount of Touhou we inject into our veins

>>5071759
Clearing the game without using any continues.
Gets you the good ending, and unlocks the extra stage.

>>5071759
1 credit clear
This isn't a Touhou term. Know this.

Where can I download the sound effects used?
Specifically the low rumble you hear when shooting a boss, its soothing to the ears and want to replace other game sounds with it. Specifically TF2

How does this work?