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>>5036301
Move to Japan. Learn from the locals.

Immersion in Japan is the quickest way.

>>5036314
No it's not. Without actual study and learning of the language you will not learn how to speak anything but a broken language. I've lived in Japan before, and I felt like shit everytime I had to ask "what does that mean?" when they spoke a word I wasn't familiar with. In the end, you just have to study yourself. I recommend going to the local library and picking up a book and english-japanese dictionary.

>>5036363
Because that's how you learned your native language right?

>>5036363

thank you someone who is giving me real answers, what would honestly be the best way short of what you said, (which i will do) because in about 3 er 4 months i am going to be living there. can ou give me any advice that can help.

>>5036375
Rosetta Stone and anime.

>>5036375
Memorize katakana and hiragana as quickly as possible. Download the 'Genki' textbooks, use these to work on grammar. For kanji/vocab, use a kanji dictionary and translate kid's manga in supplement to the Genki lessons. Rosetta Stone is really meh for Japanese in particular.

>Quickest way.

Find a native English speaker who is fluent in Japanese. Learn from him.

>>5036374
Come back to me when you live in an entirely different country as a grown adult. Jumping into a civilization without even knowing how to properly communicate first or have any kind of connections is a terrible mistake, so OP is taking the right approach. And it's especially worse if OP is asian since people will just assume he's Japanese and have no mercy on him for being illiterate. Helpful to actually speak it, yes. Independent study, however, is still required if you want to know how to speak respectably well.

READY?

Goddamn people are retarded. How is immersion going to help you learn kanji? Of course you need to study the language. How good do you think you would be at English if you never had an English class? I'm guessing pretty pathetic.

OP, as a tip never learn a word without learning the kanji it's made of (assuming it's written in kanji). This will just cause you to have to backtrack and have to do everything over.

Don't even fuck with kanji until you've learned all the kana and know a decent amount of words and sentence structure. I'd suggest learning at very least the simple verb conjugations too, learn them all if you have time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_verb_conjugations_and_adjective_declensions this is fantastic for verbs. Good luck.

It depends on where you are going in Japan. Where I am at most people speak english

Torrent the Genki books and use Kanjidicks for learning kanji. Study your ass off is the only way to do it quickly. Keep a cool head, don't overdo it and you'll be fine, you can learn a lot in 3-4 months studying every day.

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/


If this guy did it in 18 month while having a normalfag life, I'm sure you can do it too

>>5039600
That guy is a fucking retard, I know a guy that is like that, he knows almost the entire language from watching anime. Either you can do it or you can't. VERY FEW PEOPLE can, it's a talent.

>>5036300
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>>5039600
Not really a normalfag life, since his method involves throwing out anything that's not in moonspeak.

JAPANESE ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION

>>5039619

His whole point is to enjoy it as you do it

AND TRANSLATE EVERYTHING AS YOU GO

EVERYTHING.

Which does make sense, if you enjoy doing it, you'll learn.

Its not really a talent, its more of if you can enjoy doing that kind of thing.

Least you end up knowing a bit more casual speak that way, classes teach you only the polite way, which no on really uses in everyday speech unless on specific occasion

Are you in college? Go enroll in Japanese 101 or something. If it was kinda easy to get accepted into your college, the class will probably go too slowly (so it won't be the "quickest way"), but it'll be a good supplement to your independent studies, I think.

Since you're moving to Japan or something, then the most urgent skill you need are conversational skills. So start learning grammar and how to say things about yourself and how to communicate your desires in Japanese. But DO LEARN how to READ and WRITE hiragana and katakana (this can be done in about 2 weeks). But, remember that real, everyday Japanese has lots of kanji in it, so don't be complacent with just knowing hiragana and katakana. I'm just telling you to learn hirgana+katakana because they don't use Roman letters in Japan to spell out their language.

I'd assume that your mom would put you in some sort of school in Japan to learn Japanese, right?

>>5039965
>this can be done in about 2 weeks
More like two days. Don't be a lazyass.

>>5039972
>More like two days. Don't be a lazyass.
Yeah, this is probably true, actually.

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>>5039977
Welcome to /jp/

japan do not welcome gaijins....unless you are white...chicks dig white guys.

Go to www.smart.fm, make an account and STUDY.

Also I would recommend buying the Kodansha kanji learners dictionary- it's very good. Be warned that smart.fm doesn't teach grammar, you'll have to go somewhere else for that but it isn't too hard. After you learn around 500 words and the basic grammar constructs- trying reading something on 2ch.net or Japan times or something.

Good luck.

>>5039980
Gaijin/gaikokujin is mostly used for white persons.

>>5039990
bullshit.

>>5036552
this seems like the best recommendation in this thread from my own piecemeal learning experience.

>>5036552
Simply looking at hiragana/katakana/kanji everyday won't help that much.

I'm at a point at which I can easily recognize every character that comes my way, but if I have to write something, I often forget how to do it and need to picture words which include said character in my mind.