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so is it any good

>>5002955

old thread bump limit reached.

>>5018347
Yes. Read it.

Okay, reposting since the bump limit was reached on the last thread. Whenever I try and start ef, it automatically crashes. Install went just fine. I have XP Professional Service Pack 3, Intel Pentium 4 2 GHz, 512 MB of ram, 18 gb of free hard drive space. I'm pretty sure I meet the minimum requirements, if I am not mistaken?

I frowned a little.

>>5018371
Are you in Japanese locale?

anyone have megaupload links, I can't use torrents

>>5018387
There was a mediafire link in the other thread, and a mirror on some other host.

>>5018371


hmm..no idea. id try reinstalling

Dropped.

>>5018371
Yeah, I tried setting my standards and location to Japanese too, along with the obvious non-unicode.
>>5018371
I might try that, since I haven't heard of anyone having my problem.

>>5018384
oh wow, seriously? troll subs?

>>5018394
gotcha

>>5018444
Well, to be fair, they're not so bad most of the time. Still, it is a bit annoying to see stuff like that scattered throughout.

there is homolust?

>>5018423
What's wrong with this?

>>5018531
Kyousuke isn't a virgin, apparently.

>>5018483
Yeah, there's a lot of unnecessary swearing and stuff like supah and OHMIGAWD (I actually chuckled at this one, sorry), but at least it's not all over the place. So yeah, beggars can't be choosers, a translation is still a translation, etc.

>>5018483
>>5018540
I see, so it's still worth playing right?

>>5018546
Yes.

>>5018546
Yeah, besides a few (and honestly they're not THAT common) bits, it's not a bad translation at all.

>>5018537
Didn't he hit it off with the one girl in the club he was in before they broke up?

Not really surprising.

Since when did /jp/ care if the guy wasn't pure? I thought only women could be sluts.

>>5018558
Maybe there's some femanons in here.

There's no sound in 4th chapter op video or just my audio decoders acting up?

>>5018558
You thought wrong, normalfag.

>>5018578
Wat? I'm not saying I'm the one going out fucking bitches all the time, just that I could really care less if my male protagonist is.

>>5018577
It's your audio decoders. Works for me.

>>5018577


its your decoders

http://www.nnl1.com/

>2010.05.01. To anyone who's complaining about our usage of the word SUPAH in some text blocks: this is a homage to Wind -a breath of heart-, which had numerous actual usages of the word, such as SUPAH TSUTOMU PUNCH and SUPAH RAMEN. Don't like it? Well, cry to your mommy, 'cause we don't care. We at No Name Losers have a sense of humor. So should you.

>>5018619
We like shitty distracting memes in our translations because it makes the translation better, don't bother us about it.

Oh, was it? I assumed it was just some NNL trademark of some sort.

>>5018619
Well, isn't that cute. Gipface is trying to cover up his autism and obsession with certain words by say he's "homaging" something.

>>5018619
I better start to learn moon if groups are doing retarded things like that.

Well, I don't mind the supah stuff.

>>5018604
>>5018609

Damn, 3rd chapter's op plays just fine...

>>5018619 continued

>Also, to the people who are repacking the installer and data file into one archive: please stop. We made the files separate because the installer has parity detection. It will automatically download PAR2 files and repair a corrupted data file (up to 2%) if necessary. By repacking the files, you lose out on this feature.

I didn't think it could be possible to be worse than moogy-dono style editing, but NNL has proven me wrong.

Memes that work well are fine to include in the script.

Memes for the hell of it when they don't make sense are distracting from the script.

Supah and other bullshit like that do nothing but distract the reader from the script. While playing the game I should be thinking about the game, and not being constantly reminded about who translated it.

>>5018827
A meme that works well in the script, huh... could you give me a example?

>>5018839
"A cat is fine too" does wonders sometimes. Also, take a look at Sharin no Kuni, there's a few memes there that go well with the plot.

>>5018756
Perhaps if they had fucking explained that in their release instead of messing around people wouldn't have been doing that.

>>5018849
Yeah, I'd say "a cat is fine too" in Sharin no Kuni would be one of the few examples of one worked in well... Usually it's kind of jarring and irksome though.

It might be stupid of me to ask this, but can someone post the link to the installer file (not the cnd file).

I get 404'd on nnl's page (even though I'm in USA and have a US IP) and any proxies I use works for all their pages except the EF project page (404).

http://nnl.innocence.pl/

>>5018858
The EF project page is not online.

Anyways
http://nnl.innocence.pl/

>>5018849
I still have to play Sharin no Kuni.

But you are right, I guess some memes actually can be in the script after all.

>>5018863
>>5018865

Thank you.

So in short, NNL fails at inserting memes, while Sunflower devs do a good job.

They really fail at hacking.

>>5018849
I don't think so, tlwiki dev.

>>5018898
Aww, cmon, I actually got a laugh out of that.

>>5018879
Fuck you. Minori devs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunflower devs

>>5018849

I died of laughter when they did the Camelot bit.

>>5018923
But the Sharin no Kuni translation was a solid translation with very few moments that made me think the translator was throwing in bullshit for the hell of it.

Many scenes in EF have nnl added annoyances.

>DAT INSTALLER
ohhhhhh, finally I can use my quadcore cpu for something useful.....

dumbass slowpoke here, is the installer=patch for the game? also which game version do i get, confused by the titles of the series

>>5019204
Get the data file made by nnl with renewed music etc, not the game, and then put the installer on the same folder and run it.

eiiii. 5 minutes in and she's already annoyed me. I don't think I have the patiance for this, where's my raep the girl immediately option?

>>5018946 But the Sharin no Kuni translation was a solid translation with very few moments that made me think the translator was throwing in bullshit for the hell of it.
Well, I played the unedited translation of Sharin no Kuni and there wasn't any meme or bullshit like this (excepted for the usual tl notes which always appears in unedited stuff).
So I'd probably blame Moogy (that faggot) for the hilarious "jokes".

>>5018898
Sometimes I wonder if that in itself is a troll to stop retards from turning off the voices.

>>5019234
Well, if you dislike her, there's always Chapter 5.

>>5019241
moogy-dono likes to shit up whatever he edits.

>>5019234
You could always stop being a faggot. Yuuko is love.

>>5019347
Fuck nonvirgin sluts.

>>5019353
What's a virgin slut?

>>5019353
Fuck you.

ITT: Moogy and Gipface troll eachother.

>>5019454
lol so randum ecks dee

I don't really give a shit if they leave in honorifics or not, but fucking stick to one. Or at the very least be consistent. They localize some honorifics, others they leave untranslated, and in some cases this is the same honorific in a similar context getting two different treatments.

>>5019755

http://nnl1.com/about.php

>>5019783
>Today, we minimize honorific usage but do not take it out entirely. The current stance is to not use honorifics unless the person is being directly addressed. Indirect addresses that absolutely require a title will use an English equivalent (sempai = senior). We feel this is the best compromise.

Sure it sounds good in theory, but when one person is using honorifics in the same conversation that another person is using English equivalents, something seems very wrong.

>>5019783

Nothing is worse than inconsistent translation styles. If one person says sempai referring to their senior, and another person says sempai referring senior, than they both should say sempai, or both should say senior, as they are both saying the same fucking thing.

>>5019813 Today, we minimize honorific usage but do not take it out entirely. The current stance is to not use honorifics unless the person is being directly addressed. Indirect addresses that absolutely require a title will use an English equivalent (sempai = senior). We feel this is the best compromise.
This is completely retarded.

>>5019845

>Nothing is worse than inconsistent translation styles. If one person says sempai referring to their senior, and another person says sempai referring senior, than they both should say sempai, or both should say senior, as they are both saying the same fucking thing.

I don't have a problem with what MangaGamer did for KiraKira Curtain Call (see http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/sempaiseniors/ ), where sempai is used for a senior the guy respects, and senior is used for a bunch of jerks he does not respect. This was done as a result of context. Of course though what NNL does is inconsistent bullshit without nice reasoning, and they do it with all honorifics, not just sempai.

>>5019959
You're the worst poster on /jp/.

Fuck off.

On their chart, Formal equivalence should be used on anything where you hear the voice in the original language, either can be used when something is not voiced, and Dynamic equivalence should be used when you are looking at dubs.

When you hear a Japanese voice, you want to know what the fucking voice is saying, not what sounds good.

I was hoping Swells was going to be one of a number of good games around 50,000 lines

Now I want it to be something I don't give a shit about. NNL sucks at localizing.

Why is everyone so mad? A great game was translated, go enjoy it.

>>5019954
It's not inconsistent though.

>>5020090
They're got butthurt over NNL trolling tendencies (which are completely irrelevant to the actual translation). Now they're trying to point out every single flaw they can find in the script. Seeing how childish they are, I'd bet they're from the Umineko / FSN fanbase.

There's no music in the menu and i just started talking to Yuuko in the very beginning, and there's still no music. The sound test works though. Is there supposed to be no music here? I'm about 80% sure my copy's fucked. I used that data file or whatever.

>>5020212
No music at the Title Screen nor at the very beginning.

heres how i see it, if you dont like it, it really isnt that hard to think in your head what you want it to say instead of complaining about how it was translated, you should know what they mean anyways, its like saying japanese is no different than english =p
just my 2 cents
im just pleased to have a great game translated overall, the way you people complain about it is like you cant understand the story, why dont you go translate it yourself and see how fun that is

>>5020251
obvious troll is obvious.

>>5020299
yea i know, its just really annoying

As long as I can understand the gist of what they are saying, I won't be complaining about whichever way they choose to translate. I figure I'll be missing out nuances one way or another unless I read it with a good understanding of the original language anyhow, so no need to pop a few brain cells getting mad at it.

>>5018371

Having the same problem, WinXP SP3 on JAP locale......

http://nnl1.com/ef/explain.php

>ef Honorific Usage
>(or Why We Kick Ass at Translating)

>For the vast majority of the cast we went with our standard stance, which is to drop honorifics unless being directly addressed. This helps cut down clunky-sounding English without losing some implied meaning in situations that really call for it. Besides that, the cast in the first two chapters are all a rather informal bunch, so the removal outside of direct address tended to mean very little.

>We decided to make exceptions for certain characters. Chihiro was the big one. Her memory is more or less locked into the mindset of a little girl due to her accident at a young age. This is made apparent during one of her first meetings with Renji:

>Chihiro: "Let's see... Is "Renji-san" okay with you?"
>Renji: "'-san' is too formal. Why not '-kun'?"
>Chihiro: "That's too much for me."
>Renji: "I'm younger than you."
>Chihiro: "That's true, but why do names suddenly matter?"
>Renji: "Well, in any case, we're friends."
>Chihiro: "Hm... I understand. Let's see, then. From now on I'll call you Renji-kun."

>Essentially, she's stuck in the mindset of a polite little girl who isn't comfortable with dropping honorifics. She has to be convinced to change Renji's honorific to a less formal one. That's why we decided she would be the only character to keep them at all times.

>>5022511
>Mizuki has one big exception but otherwise follows the standard ruleset. We decided she would keep the -sempai honorific at all times because role models are important to her. When she meets Chihiro, she makes this quite clear:

>Mizuki: "Chihiro-sa... Ah, if it's okay with you, could I call you Chihiro-sempai?"
>Chihiro: "Huh?"
>Mizuki: "Well~, you're older than me just like Kei-sempai, so it feels weird to call you differently, ahahaha."
>Chihiro: "Is that so? Well then, let's be sempai and kouhai."
>Mizuki: "Yay~"

>Mizuki has a bit of an obsession with being able to call people with the -sempai honorific as you can see.

>The one other thing of note is using Mr. and Ms./Mrs. before adult character names. This should really be self-explanatory, but in English, would you ever call friends your own age "Miss" or "Mister"? Keeping those as honorifics (or just dropping them) sounds a lot more natural. On the other hand, changing them to Ms. and Mr. for adults is perfectly normal and flows quite well.

>Now then! We've come to accept that not everyone will agree with this methodology, so we're offering you all an option. If there's enough negative feedback, we will make an alternate version for ef Genuine Draft that will remove ALL honorifics regardless of context, except in extreme exceptions where honorifics are unavoidable. Just know this may cause a slight delay (probably a week) in getting ef Genuine Draft out... but we ARE willing!

>>5022515

>Want an honorific-free version of ef?

>* Yes
>* No

>view results

>>5022511
>>5022515
Seriously? Why are the majority of VN players so weeaboo and stupid?

>>5022533
If they did a poll "Should we have an option where we leave all honorifics IN", it would be a landslide towards in. Visual novel players want their honorifics.

>>5022533
The question should be instead: Why are you such a gigantic retard.

Well, apparently the majority are happy with the current vision. I guess that means the trolls her are just a really vocal minority

>Bawww why are all of my fellow Naruto fans a bunch of annoying 13 year olds.

>>5022533
I'm surprised it's not 99%. Most of us like honorifics around here. Especially on a VN like ef.

>>5022556
>>5022549
>>5022542
>>5022540
You guys wouldnt even realized the missing honorifics if NNL didn't mention them.

>>5022533
Maybe because some people votes on no cause they don't want to wait on an extra week. A week by NNL's standards is pretty long indeed.

Personally I like honorifics, so I would like them to keep them at all times (with the possible exception of sensei to mr/ms/etc, that actually works well in English). Regardless of keeping them in or not though, with their direct address method someone would refer to another as sempai if she is in the room, or senior if she isn't. This doesn't really make sense as a honorific policy.

>>5022560
>You guys wouldnt even realized the missing honorifics if NNL didn't mention them.

It was realized earlier in this thread when someone noticed inconsistencies with how honorifics were being dealt with.

Anti-honorific crusaders were always some of the most annoying trolls in /jp/.

This novel seems cool so far. Although it's so shiny with all of its CGs, it feels like I'm going to struggle to read a visual novel without the shineyness after this.

>>5022533
Back when MangaGamer did a poll on honorifics.

Man, I'm usually one of the first to say NNL are a bunch of faggots, but you know what, in this case I think they're right. I've honestly got no idea what you people are bitching about, besides just "it's NNL, let's give them a hard time". I didn't notice any problem with how honorifics were handled before, and after reading their explanation it makes a whole lot of sense. Seriously, just find something else to bitch about. Just because a translator did something a little differently from how you might have done it does not make it a bad translation.

>>5022594
Just wait for the ps2 adapted version, even more CGs.

>>5022930
Good or bad, it's a weird direction that makes little sense as to why to implement in the first place.
Why should one not mention and/or complain about it?

>>5022913
Whoever voted no IS AN ASSHOLE.

>>5022951
I voted no.

>>5022953
YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE.

>>5022957
And you are an idiot.

>>5022958
No, you're the idiot AND AN ASSHOLE.

>>5022961
Masterstroke.

Sure is a lot of butthurt on the NNL site.

>>5023011
They never have been particularly good at taking criticism, but you know, most people would react badly if something they put a lot of work into, and took pride in, was criticized. They act like a bunch of trolls sometimes, but I always did get the feeling that NNL actually do take their translation work very seriously, and hold it to a very high standard.

Well, reacting that way is generally a bad idea, especially on the internet, but I can certainly understand why it would happen.

They translated it how they wanted to, just fucking play it and enjoy it, or ignore it.

Would a number of people probably want honorifics all the time? Absolutely, but they translated it and thought that would be stupid.

Do adding things like supah make it better? Who knows, but you will remember the release for it, so stop bitching

Is there any good reason to add random memes? Probably not, but they don't take away anything so stop bitching

Would some people have liked original jokes instead of localized jokes? Well localized jokes are more likely to make English speakers laugh


Simply put, stop bitching about every little detail that doesn't really matter

>>5023074
>I always did get the feeling that NNL actually do take their translation work very seriously, and hold it to a very high standard.

That was the exact impression I got while reading supah and shitty memes over and over.

>>5023110
Yeah, those things are annoying, but are they ever placed in such a way that they seriously detract from the scene (besides the "oh, a meme, excuse me while I rage" factor, of course) or change the tone of a scene to something it was not meant to be? They're not even terribly common, and they all occur in scenes that were meant to be fairly lighthearted or comedic anyway.

And remember, having a high standard does not necessarily mean they'll do everything exactly as you would. They've made some decisions others might disagree with, but it was all in order to make a product that they were happy with in the end.

>>5023104
>Do adding things like supah make it better?
>Who knows

Are you retarded? Yes.

>>5023104
People who want honorifics and jokes that make no sense in english are the cancer killing translation.

I for one love how nnl did the translation, stop bitching

Look, manchildren on the internet start bitching again for absolutely no reason. How interesting

Less talk about nnl, more about the VN.

>>5023142
I prefer honorifics if the game takes place in Japan, otherwise I don't want to see them.

As to localization of jokes. If the line is unvoiced, localize it as much as you want. If the line is voiced in Japanese, then be careful about how you localize it, because the text should resemble what is being voiced.

>>If the line is voiced in Japanese, then be careful about how you localize it, because the text should resemble what is being voiced.
Is that because you can't fake it if it's voiced?

>>5023211
Phoenix Wright, while it was extremely localized it worked out well. Just think about how horrible the localization would have been had that game been voiced, and they went with that translation with Japanese voiced.

>>5023171
What the fuck is going on?

Just a quick question: It's just me or there is no music in the early scenes? I'm playing other VNs right now and ef will have to wait but I want to be sure everything is ok so I played it a bit and noticed there was no music for quite some time, until I started to hold ctrl to skip some scenes and finally a song started.

Is that normal or I have a problem?

>>5023171

A girl will never rain her pussy juice down on your from a precarious masturbation perch.

;_;

>>5023356

You DO have a problem. You exist.

>>5023364
How about not being a dick and give him a answer?

>>5023304
>Phoenix Wright, while it was extremely localized it worked out well. Just think about how horrible the localization would have been had that game been voiced, and they went with that translation with Japanese voiced.

A better example would be Stg. Frog. The dub was great, however it was highly localized at times. The provided subtitles to watch it subbed were more literal and localized. Both worked well, but you would not want to read the dubbed script while watching it subbed.

>>5023371
How about not being a retard and reading few posts above, samefag?

>>5023356
Yeah, the first few scenes do not have music.

Really liking all the CGs and voice synch.

It's amazing how /jp/ bitches about every release

Eien no Aselia - nothing but where the fuck is my 18+ version
Sekien no Inganock- should have translated another game
Cross Channel - Why the fuck are their all these translation notes
And so on

If you don't like how translations are done, fucking learn Japanese and play them yourself.

>>5023633
I'll bitch even more if it angers faggots like you.

>>5023633
Just you wait until /jp/ will finally translates something on its own and then no one will bitch then. I bet when Hatsukoi will be released everybody will be fully satisfied!

>>5023667
More like /jp/ exhausted itself with all the bitching already going on.

>>5023667
I'll make sure to complain just because of this post.

>>5023695
you got that right

anyone still have the mediafire link for the ef game

So how is the VN, is it any good?
I liked all the seasons of the anime, but if the source material is just school harem eroge #244655 then I'm afraid I'll have to pass.

>>5024598
MIRROR LINKS
DISCLAIMER: I HAVEN'T UPLOADED NOR DOWNLOADED THOSE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ERASE YOUR PORN, SCREW YOUR EROGE SAVE DATA OR FUCK YOUR MOTHER.
---
MEDIAFIRE: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8ee0d19615d42e5cab1eab3e9fa335ca284cfa01e0445bbb
HOTFILE: http://erogedownload.com/downloads/ef-a-fairy-tale-of-the-two/

>>5024620
The eroge is much better, as is always the case.

>>5024679
I find the art in the anime better, but character and plot-wise the eroge is much better.
inb4 lol SHAFT

>>5024671
thanx

>>5024679
Thanks, I'll play it when I get time.

>>5024620
Can't really be called harem, considering there's a different protagonist in each girl's chapter.

I just finished the first chapter or whatever. The end of one tale. Now the new MC is a shitty character, and the first tale had a shitty bitch heroine. It was nice, but does this ever have a build up? I really dislike the whole short tale bullshit.

>>5024982
Also the final choice in the first chapter has no logic behind it. You be a bastard and get the good ending, or be a good guy and get the bad ending.

>>5024999
Just like real life

>>5024999
ALSO, the bad ending lacked any kind of hard hitter.The joyful music was playing throughout till the shitty little screen came up. A bad ending is supposed to make me feel bad. Besides that bitch just completely ignoring the MC for no reason, I felt nothing at all. There was plenty of room for a tragic breakup but noooooooooooooo.

>>5024671
is there a torrent somewhere

>>5025097
There should be, or there was one you could get from the same IRC bot you could get the game from before. Not sure if it has been uploaded elsewhere by now.

>>5025097
I used a good magnet link from an old thread. The first announcing the 24 hour countdown, thread had a screenshot of it, too. Go have a look around on easymodo for it.

>>5024999
Isn't it like that in every game? You only get a good ending with the girl you want if you act like a fucking douche towards the other girls. You make one "nice guy" decision, and odds are you are getting a bad end.

The first chapter in ef is Miyako's chapter, so if you don't act all asshole towards Kei, you get a bad ending.

>>5024982
Each chapter is more or less standalone, though there are some connections between them. The closest thing to an overarching story would be Yuu and Yuuko's.

>>5024999
I don't recall ever acting like a bastard and I got the good end. Maybe by "good guy" you mean "indecisive faggot"?

>>5025174
See >>5018351
It's http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5002955

>>5024620
I felt that melodies completely fucked up certain important (at least I think they were) scenes at the very end.

Also no molestation of Mizuki.

See, this is why NNL devs are much better than TLwiki devs. They actually get shit done, and don't make up shitty excuses (lol C&D) to drop them.

Why are you comparing a translation group to a hosting site

>>5026557
They're not NNL devs, they're Minori devs.

>>5026557
Last time I checked, NNL has release 2 games, one of them being shit, over the last several years.

Anyone else having problems installing this in win7?
I have the installer and "ef_Lite_Data_[nnl].cnd" in one folder but when I try to run the installer, it crashes.
Do I need another file or something?

I have my system with the japanese locale already.

>>5026609
oh, and the win7 is x64 too.

>>5026609
>>5026613
Worked fine for me on Windows 7 x64. I wasn't using Japanese Locale, either.

>>5026616
Are you using the files from the IRC or the mediafire link?
I don't know if there's a difference between them, but...

>>5026636
I got the game file from IRC and the installer from NNL's website.

>>5026647
I'll try downloading them again.
Thanks.

i used the torrent, but is says its corrupted, did this happen too anyone else?

>>5027448
Paste this into your browser, it's the torrent I used and it works just fine:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DYYX4GCFP5666YRB3CGPQVMKBPIORLGD&dn=ef_Lite_Data_%5Bnnl%5D.cnd&xl=231560
9468

>>5028250
They also said "what happened to her minority spirit from before" in an early scene with Miyako.

>>5028250
That's part of the original script.

Just finished Chapter 1

Have to say I think the anime did this story better than the VN, at least for the events in Chapter 1.

>>5030623
Because the anime also mixed the whole KeixKyousuke thing that was in the 2nd route.

>>5025397
>I don't recall ever acting like a bastard and I got the good end. Maybe by "good guy" you mean "indecisive faggot"?
You either choose to go to your childhood friend's basketball game which she obviously really wants you to go, or you have sex all day with your girlfriend who is completely and utterly selfish, she breaks up with you if you don't spend the single day with her, with no reason, no nothing

Who cares about Kei? She is a psycho.

>>5031452
So is Miyako.

Looks like I need to start playing.
>>5030805
spoiler fapfapfapfpapfapapfpafpfapfapfappfapfapfapafpaf
>breaks up with you if you don't
Sound like a great excuse for raping her

>>5030623
I'm surprised anyone can say that with how melodramatic and shitty they made the love triangle.

>>5030805
Sounds like you're just mad it wasn't a Kei end.

Seriously, I read too slow>>5019234 At this rate, I'll be done reading it in 4 years

Anyone have a save file? I want to get to the rape....

Anyone knows what these tabs mean or do?

They seem to pop up and down from time to time.

>>5032121
Autosave.

Is ef worth playing if I've seen the anime?

Am I really missing out on anything worthwhile?

Damnit it, wearing the winter uniform and calling it the summer uniform, she annoys me and make me want to rape her already.....
>>5032171
Haven't played it past 20 lines yet, but you'd be missing out the porn....

>>5032171
No. It's minori shit and you should be ashamed.

>>5031853
The rape is never shown, only referenced.

>>5032171
Yes. The anime sucks in comparison to the eroge.

>>5032186
Minori anti devs, get out

>>5032171
Yes, better character development and all.
SHAFT version is artsy, that's all.

>>5032251
I see nothing wrong with that

>>5032251
How did you get that?

>>5032332
Click the link to ef's vndb page on nnl's site.

Somehow their honorific translation explanation makes sense.

>>5032353
Her panties are open for raep......what a slut...

>>5032377

Well ... it is SUPAH effective ...

Damnit I want to rape dem minori girls, 100% save file where?

>>5031853
i think you should just watch some hentai or something, i have a feeling you don't like vns or reading that much

Damnit I want to rape dat minori. Continuation of Eden project where?

>>5032427
mmmmm yeah...but, but they're usually always low quality stuff. I want something shiny and pretty for a change... ;_;

>>5032443
I don't think anybody saved the wiki content before it was deleted ;_;

>>5032480
NNL had about as much of it translated as the tlwiki project. They'll probably finish it just to piss off minori more.

How did NNL become such a bunch of Minori devs? ;_;

Anyone have the walkthrough? I saw it posted in a thread either yesterday or Saturday, but I forgot to save it.

>>5032610

-=GOOD END=-

01. Follow Miyamura

save - 1

02. Just go home
03. Go out and see Miyako
04. Find out what's happening
05. Stand by Miyako

save - 2

06. I want to film her after all
07. Don't kiss her

save - 3

08. Reject it


-=BAD END #1=-

load - 1

02. Check up on Kei

save - 4

03. Go out and see Miyako
04. Don't worry, be happy

save - 5

05. Stand by Miyako


-=BAD END #2=-

load - 4

03. Work comes first


-=BAD END #3=-

load - 5

05. I can't just ditch Kei


-=BAD END #4-5=-

load - 2

06. I can't betray the film club
07. Hold my peace
08. What is wrong with me? and What is wrong with her?("animated"!)


-=BAD END #6=-

load - 3

08. Accept her request

>>5032610
It's not like there is a website that archives all posts on /jp/ or anything like that, right?

>>5032499
What? You mean Swells is Eden?

>>5032627
No, swells is too big, Eden wasn't even 10000 lines.

>>5032616
So I'm a bit confused by this walkthrough. In Chapter 2, I just want to get the good ending and don't really care about getting the bad endings (I'll get them eventually). Which choices do I need to make?

>>5032755
In that case, all you have to do is choose "I want to film her after all".

>>5018341
H T + p : // a t . k i m M O a . s 3 /

So is ef worth reading if I've watched the first anime, I have absolutely no idea how correctly the anime followed the vn and what did it skip

>>5033900
If nothing else, a few of the H-scene are extremely hot. Also, that question in particular has been answered in the thread already, I believe.

As soon as I start the game I get crackling sound. BGM SE and everything else works but there is this constant crackling fuck noise.

System is w7 64bit and audio card is xonar d1 if it helps. locale is jap

>>5033900
You should know by now that a VN is always better than it's anime adaptation.

>>5033943
Reinstall.

>>5033948

Well yeah, you have a point there

>>5033953
doesnt work

>>5033948
True, though there were two things for Ch1 that I thought were done better in the anime.

1. Kei discovers Miyako in Hiro's bed, rather than it just being said.

2. The part where Miyako leaves a ton of messages on Hiro's phone, starting casual, and getting more and more desperate. (not in the VN at all)

Nothing major, it just felt like the anime had more of a climax.

>>5033948
>You should know by now that a VN is always better than it's anime adaptation.

Unless it adds yandere (like Shuffle)

>>5034134
I felt that overall the anime did Miyako's story better than chapter 1 of the VN. However other stuff I am preferring the game.

>>5034134
Aw, the phone scene wasn't in the VN? Lame, that was one of the best scenes in the anime.

How did they know?!?!

>>5035087
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_REFERER

Don't worry, no need to panic, just normal internet.

try Utawarerumono, it's universally liked and has an English and voice patch
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>>5036166
This is a Minori dev thread!

Leaf devs get out

>>5034134
Personally I found that stuff way too melodramatic. I liked how the eroge's love triangle wasn't so overblown and you could just enjoy time with your waifu.

>>5033943
still need help ;_;

>>5039194
Slut.

So, when do you get to see the opening?

>>5039194
No, she's mai waifu.

>>5034134
>2. The part where Miyako leaves a ton of messages on Hiro's phone, starting casual, and getting more and more desperate. (not in the VN at all)
Yes, watching this broke my heart. Seriously.

>>5034134
>>2. The part where Miyako leaves a ton of messages on Hiro's phone, starting casual, and getting more and more desperate. (not in the VN at all)
It was the only good part of Miyako's story in the anime.
If the game doesn't have that, then her story must be pretty shitty.

H+ TP : / / À+ . k Í m m ò á . 5 3 /

>>5039295
The anime focused more on eyepatch girl, Chihiro, was it? I was kinda disappointed that they didn't develop Miyako's story.

anime > eroge

>>5039308
anime + eroge

Fuck this VN, and fuck Chihiro

Made me feel ;.;

>>5018340
H t t P : / / Á t . k í m m Ó @ .$ € /

>>5020081
>>5032627
>>5032635
I did a byte/line count earlier today on Mashiroiro Symphany. You have to delete the "mem" files first (these are short for "memories" as in 1:1 copypastas from the normal game script), launch up Notepad++ and run a massreplace on ".message" (that's the command the gamescript displays the lines appearing ingame).
If you did this, you get the resulted image, which is different by one line to NNL's "Swells".

If you check out getchu you notice that the hair of the heroines are entirely different colored, and similarly to ef this is also a game normally requiring you to run on japanese windows.

>>5039989
Why would they not count the mem file lines?

>>5040456
Cause you copypaste those, not translate.

>>5040456
Probably because they are copy pasta lines that don't need to be retranslated.

>>5039295
No, because her story is a lot different in the eroge.

>>5040456
See for example file mem00_01.sc
http://www.privatepaste.com/8d24af34fe (that's the whole file).
Now compare it with airi_route02.sc (where the scene normally happens).
http://www.privatepaste.com/dc1d2a9401
See line 1469 and notice that from there on, the entire mem file is identical to there. You can just copypaste the entire shit to the mem files after you translated the main scripts, and thus it wouldn't make sense to count the mem files too.

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wtf? text is not displayed. tried to reinstall the fonts, it didnt help

>>5040805
If you had the old font installed, uninstall it. The game supposedly reads the font file directly from the game folder.

still not displayed

>>5040851
Running in Japanese locale? Files for East Asian languages installed? Maybe try restarting your computer?

>>5040851
Some of the early scenes don't have text, it's normal.

Man, what the fuck is this bullshit? I keep seeing it, but clicking it doesn't seem to do anything.

>>5044153
It pops up when the game autosaves.

>>5044178
Oh. Cheerio.

Typo... I know for a fact NNL read these threads, so letting you know, in case you want to fix it in Genuine Draft, or something.

Is it normal that Hiro is unvoiced? I thought he was voiced back when I played the ch1 preview...

>>5044675
That never happened bro.

>>5044675
He does get a voice in chapter 2, but while you are playing with him as protag, he doesn't have one.

Crashes as soon as i start it, i have a bunch of other VN's installed and never had problem with any of those, running on xp sp3, locale japanese, tried install 3 times, rebooted comp, east asian files installed, not much else i can do?

Is there no CG/scene mode? Didn't show up after finishing Ch1 either.

>>5044874
There isn't.

>>5044840
I'm having the same problem as you, anyone have any advice?