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I was thinking about which board to make this thread on, but then moot made /jp/. Awesome.

So, I've been trying to learn to read Japanese on my own, since my college's Japanese courses start next fall. I got the Hiragana and Katakana down quickly, starting to learn the grammar. I know a few words here and there from being exposed to anime for so long. As of late, I've been trying to read some easy manga in Japanese, like Yotsuba&.

Here's the problem. I can read everything because there are furigana next to the kanji, but I know so little vocabulary that even the most basic of terms sends me running to a dictionary to look it up. I was wondering if you have any advice for learning basic vocabulary and kanji so I don't have to have the dictionary up all the time when attempting to read manga.

TL;DR - TELL ME SOME WAYS TO LEARN ENOUGH VOCAB/KANJI SO I CAN READ MY MANGO WITHOUT TOO MUCH USE OF A DICTIONARY

>> No.467
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>>408

Read shit.

I have 1.5 years of japanese class, the conclusion, kanji will always be hard, there is no way to memorize so much kanji in a short way.

aka, deal with it, never stop studying, faget.

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Oops, meant kanji.koohii.com

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>>480
I bet you can't speak japanese for shit. KAWAII DESU NE huh

LEARNING JAPANESE REQUIRES STUDY AND NOT JUST WATCHING ANIME

Get that in your head and you'll do fine.

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Is japanese language approved on /jp/ or should it be discussed on /lang/?

>> No.421

You're taking Japanese? I'm so sorry.

>> No.430

>>421

Er. Why?

>> No.437

Only way to learn kanji: memorization by writing.
/thread

>> No.450

>>437
No, FUCK no. koohii.kanji.com, reviewing the kanji, etc.

>> No.455

Also learn vocab with the sentence method:
alljapaneseallthetime.com

>> No.462

play more h-games

>> No.466

>>408

http://pepper.idge.net/japanese/

Required in every thread that mentions the learning of Japanese.

>> No.473

ANON WITH MY PROBLEM! I don't have any formal japanese for your question. I don't have any formal japanese classes near me... so I have NO IDEA where to start when it comes to memorizing the vocabulary. I have a hard time moving foreward without a plan. I wish I still had my spanish worksheets to get ideas from on what to study.

>> No.480

Learn vocab by watching subbed anime and by looking at the pictures in manga. I'm too lazy for a dictionary, it worked for me. Try something easy where they repeat themselves a lot like card captor sakura.

>> No.495

Try retranslating texts that are relevant to your interests. JP->EN->JP and then check if your translation looks like the original one. Awesome for grammar and vocab and pretty much everything.

>> No.501

I can understand spoken Japanese, but can't read kanji worth shit.

>> No.505

>>462
This.
It works surprisingly well.

>> No.532

The usual method in learning kanji is to understand 1 kanji per day. When you learn that kanji, learn how to write it, it's meaning, onyomi, kunyomi, basically everything about that kanji.

>> No.564

for the love of god don't learn japanese from anime or manga, they copy the style of speech used in the old samurai movies and you'll look like a retard, also it's really slow and tedious

always learn how to write a kanji, don't just try to learn how to read it, or it will fuck you over later on

to learn vocab the best way is honestly to take classes but failing that you can install rikaichan and try to read japanese news sites and 2ch and stuff like that

>> No.574

Well shit, I turn around to go help my roommate with something and this thread explodes.

>>421
I'm doing this not only because of weeaboo reasons. As strange as that may sound, I have a goal to learn Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (I'm a native speaker, so all I need to learn how to do is read and write). I want to take classes because they'll teach me how to hold conversations and the like.

>>467
Not saying there's a shortcut to Kanji, but I was just wondering if there was a way to learn basic vocabulary so I can understand what simple sentences mean.

Also, thanks for the links, guys. I'm bookmarking them and will check them out.

>> No.578

>>532

365 Kanji a day = 5 years before BASIC Kanji proficiency. Hope you've got time on your hands.

>> No.592

It's funny. I'm just getting into my class and now I can actually read some of the shit in anime and actually have it make sense.

>> No.617

>>466
Also required posting for learning kanji:
http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm

>> No.651

You CAN learn Japanese on your own but it's going to be a long, difficult journey.

Your best resource is a native speaker, and the best way to meet a native speaker is to take classes.

Also, I REALLY hope you're learning it as part of a career. I'm taking Japanese because I want to be a translator. There's basically ZERO need to know Japanese for the average American. In fact, you barely need to know Japanese if you go on vacation there, since many speak English and they are very accommodating. Without daily practice or use, you'll lose your Japanese quickly.

>> No.657

>>564
I'm not, I'm learning from various websites and the like that have been recommended to me. I'd take classes, but like I mentioned in the first post, my university only offers sequential classes starting in the fall, so I'll have to wait until next year to learn. And yes, I'm well aware than anime and manga are horrible places to learn from because they use unconventional speech, but I just try to push through them in Japanese for fun sometimes.

>> No.685

>>574
learning korean? prefixes and suffixes will kill you.

>> No.733

Like learning any other language, keep at it and refresh yourself every day. What you don't use will fall into oblivion.

If you can get a native speaker to talk with you, that'll help with understand sentence flow and basic speech patterns. Tell him/her to only converse with you in Japanese. That's the best that you can get short of moving to Japan. Being forced to learn a language or fail miserably in society is a good motivator.

>> No.742

>>480
Interestingly enough, that's how I've learned all my japanese knowledge so far. The only difference is that instead of watching different shows and learning repeated phrases, I would watch the exact same episode multiple times. I would even rip the audio from certain anime episodes and just listen to them.

I also learned hiragana/katakana by playing eroge.

This knowledge has helped a shitload in my jap 101 class which I started taking in Jan. getting 95% on every assignment without studying is nice. Yet at the same time, I can't form sentences for shit. I know enough to watch alot of anime raw, but I can't form sentences (without taking time to think) for shit.

>> No.831

Oh hey guys, I forgot to mention, I'm Chinese American. That basically means I can speak, but only have little knowledge reading/writing. I guess my main point for bringing this up is that learning Kanji won't be too bad for me, since I'm used to memorizing complex Chinese characters during my chinese classes when I was young.

>> No.866

By the way, don't you think moot did a great job by making /jp/? For weeaboos who seriously want to acquire Japanese, I think here is a nice board to discuss. We have much more guys than /lang/ and can take advantage of images when needed.

>> No.1223

I'm kind of like the OP. I've taken an interest in japanese for no good reason. I know all the kana and can recognize the meaning of about 150 kanji, and pronounce like 50 properly in context. I started seriously learning more than the kana around winter break and have been trying to see what resources I could use to increase vocabulary. I was using mango languages. Is that a bad place to continue and I should use some other site form this thread instead?

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