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I liked that the routes before coco gave a lot of characterization, making Coco's route such an amazing ride. But there was so much shit that was just so boring that you have to slog though to get to the good parts.
You's route: Third eye third eye third eye third eye
Tsugumi: She is perfect
Sora: Boring, I did her route third and already knew about her, so pretty much everything that happened was not interesting in the slightest. Although I felt sorry for her at the end of Coco's route.
Sara: This route was needed for a lot of the backstory to make the mindfuck so efficient but it took forever just to say one thing. I get it, they are related Swimming scene was hot atleast. Also double down chicken sandwhich is invented.

What do you love and hate about ever17 /jp/? The music and the writing are top notch, but the pacing is the biggest weakness for me. I still recommend this for anyone that hasn't played.

Ever17 thread anyway.

>> No.4996778

Tsugumi is a horrible mother.

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>>4996778
And pet owner.
*Splat*

>> No.4996789

>Tsugumi: She is perfect
Yeah, right.

>> No.4996798

I agree on Sora's route, only because I played it right after Tsugumin's and it's 90% the same, though. Also I never liked Sora much. And yeah, Tsugumin's was the best of the initial routes in my opinion. I liked Sara's too, though.

>> No.4996806

Go reread the earlier parts of Kid's route.
You'll start to see a lot of shit you missed.

>> No.4996817

>>4996787

So a horrible everything.

>> No.4996820
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Would you give you your banana?

>> No.4996822

What a coincidence. I just ate a double down mere minutes ago because it reminded me of Ever 17. Not getting it again though. Not worth $5 in my opinion.

I also found Sora pretty boring. As for Ever 17 as a whole, I really liked it, especially how all the routes are connected in Coco's path. Although I have to agree that slogging through every single route just to get to the end is tedious, I think you get the biggest impact seeing how it all connects.

>> No.4996823

Not so good.

>> No.4996862

>>4996822
>I think you get the biggest impact seeing how it all connects.
Ya thats why I accept it all in retrospect, only because of how well done it is in the end.

Unrelated but in that one scene where takashi is sleeping never seems to let me skip it, I also get one or two new lines. Once he would say "I'm comming" or "You is so flat, so flat" or just nonsense. It seems random.

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>>4996820
Yes.

>> No.4996884

Pretty much like what you said. Coco's route is the only truly great one. The other's weren't bad but weren't that good either. I can't think of Ever17 as the masterpiece most others do when only one of the five routes really deserves it.

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I loved Sora.

>> No.4996897

I love You.

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>> No.4996923

>>4996912
That giant dog/bear thing still bothers me.

>> No.4996926

I think it would have been better if they had just used flashbacks for backstory instead of chicken sandwich scenes.

>> No.4996928

>>4996923
myunmyun

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>>4996923
blow it out your ass

>> No.4996963

>>4996929
Can't help but laugh at this picture everytime

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>>4996776
He thinks tsugumi isn't a slut! Haha!

>> No.5000426

>>5000415
Thread Necromancer Level 300

>> No.5000576

>>5000426
This isn't a forum.

>> No.5000581

Sara's route disappointed me. I expected bigger revelations. They were tame.

>> No.5000586

>>5000576
> he thinks age actually does anything.

>> No.5000589

Faceless main hamster

>> No.5000653

It would have been better if there was a point.
The build up to Coco's route gave me the impression that their was going to be some kind of crazy plot exposure and there was but... it was only plot exposure.
You find out have everything works bad ends are reneged and it ends...
It felt like there was no meaning to all the cryptic things that were going on for the rest of the story. You never find out why the 2017 collapse happened. You never receive any insight into why they created TB. The entire Leiblich corporation is an empty plot device of an enemy. There's no message; there's no meaning when you've completed the story, just exposure.

Oh and I raged like a motherfucker when they had Kuranari slobbing over Coco at the end while she was obviously taken by Mr. 4th dimensional being and Kuranari could have been paired with Yuibeseiharukana who he spent 17 years planning the 2034 scenario with. At least make your good endings good KID.

>> No.5000666

Some of you idiots really need to learn how to use spoiler tags....

>> No.5000689

>>5000653
>You never find out why the 2017 collapse happened.
Yes, you do, it's explained quite in depth
> You never receive any insight into why they created TB.
Biological weapon

>> No.5000693

>>5000653
You are mistaking names there, pal.

>> No.5000703

>You find out have everything works bad ends are reneged and it ends...

LOL at that, has anyone ever been so far even as decided to do want to look more like?

>> No.5000730

>>5000653
He loves coco. He can be with Youhara too, but the reason he spent all that time saving coco was because he loved her. Coco probably loves him too, unless he is a lolicon I don't see the problem here. Love doesn't have to mean sexual relationships.

>> No.5000746

>>5000666
Only a few of us here do that. People are simply a bunch of jerks who don't mind about the ones who will still play something

>> No.5001543

I did also find the pace a little too slow, mostly with the mundane things like sandwich eating and hide and seek.

>> No.5001553

>>5001543
the hide and seek part is pretty good in my opinion. it was a moment that many things could happen it made me excited for secrets and strange things to happen.

>> No.5001575

>>5000653


Kaburaki gets with Sora in the (canon) drama cd

>> No.5001580

>>5000746

Actually no, most of us always used spoiler for Ever17.

>> No.5001588

I like all Ever17 paths except Sora.

Maybe because it was my first VN, but i loved You and Sara path.

>> No.5001591

>>5001575
wait... what?

>> No.5001600

>>5001591

It's the true.

Read them on animesuki, i don't have the link now.

>> No.5001610

>>5001600
>No results.

>> No.5001635

not so good

>> No.5001639

>>5001610

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=30988&page=50

They are here.. somewhere.

I know, animesuki, bear with it.

The first drama cd is good, but honestly i found the second shitty, i didn't like the whole super-mom-tsugumi goes to raid Leblich for a vaccine. Also, You clone is no longer pure

>> No.5001654

WHO KICKED THE CAN?!

>> No.5001668

>>5001639
>no longer pure
what

>> No.5001681

>>5001668

It's extremely explicit that She and Hokuto slept together

Read them for yourself anyway, here the link to the first part,

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2777646&postcount=890

The rest on page 46-47

>> No.5001684

>>5001639
Ok, I'll try to bear with it. thanks

>> No.5001729

>>5001654
It was resonance between those two times created by presence of BW. Iam pretty sure during the hide-and-seek part time shows a lot often than normal, so it is possible to lay events of both timelines over each other and compare them.
But I dont have time right now to test this theory.

>> No.5001732

Yup like it, but there was definitely too much samey stuff.
In every path 95% of the text is the same until point XYZ fairly late in each path.

I was using the skip button a lot.

>> No.5001748

>>5001681
Was that in the 2034? Because I don't remember anything about it in the 2035.

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>>5001729
>It was resonance between those two times created by presence of BW

I wounder, did coco appear always in this pic? Both timeline?

>> No.5001766

>>5001748

It sets 1 year after ever17

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Just reminding you guys

>> No.5001805

Naturally, I knows the hacker

>> No.5001884

>>5001805
Its good to know that hacking has becomed mainstream in the future.

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>>5000730
My waifu loves everyone. But she loves me the most. Pic related. <3

>>5001639
More accurately... or collectively...

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2900296&postcount=1056

Also, wtf. You LIKED 2035 over After You've Gone? Damn.

Personally, I thought After You've Gone... well, made more sense than 2035.

Well, whatever. Both have great Coco moments, though not nearly enough overall screentime to satisfy me. Also, still no Coco/Sara interaction.

>> No.5004285

>>5001681
Hokuto deserves it.

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>>5004254
>animesuki

That's worse than Sankaku.

>> No.5004433

>>5004295
>CurryButt

oh u

>> No.5004457

Wow, the drama CD is just horrible.

I'll read After you've gone later and I'm hoping it's good

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Coco's hair looks like balled up rubber bands.

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>>4996888

finally another Sora fan!

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>>5004536
Or roses, depending on the pic. Sweet smelling roses.

>> No.5004604

>>5004536
Learn to use the spoiler feature.

>> No.5004646

>>5004604
Really don't see how that is a spoiler image unless you already know why it is spoiler. If you haven't played the game that picture would not be spoiling anything as it is just a takashi holding a wet coco. Obviously you played the game and know the situation, but in that same sense you can not be spoiled since you already know it.

>> No.5004657

>>5004646
People can figure things out. Some of us are actually smart enough for it.

>> No.5004666

>>5004646
It's a spoiler that they get wet.

>> No.5004667

>>5004657
The only way anyone would see that as a spoiler would be if they knew it was a spoiler, which thanks to
>>5004604
they do, and now he's the one who should have used spoiler tags because he's the one actually creating the spoilers.

>> No.5004681

>>5004657
Obviously you aren't that smart then. ^-^;;

>> No.5004695

>>5004666
Sora turns on the sprinklers in one scene. I guess that means that that is a huge spoiler too. I guess we should just never talk about water. Since water is a spoiler.

Do you read what you type?

>> No.5004735

>>5004695
Uh, what? I wasn't being serious. I'm still not sure what exactly is a spoiler about that image and I even played Ever17.

>> No.5004908

LeMU is underwater.

>> No.5004945

>>5004908
Chicken sandwiches are PEOPLE

>> No.5004983

>>5004735
Takeshi's hair color obviously

>> No.5005137

Coco has psyyyyychic powers.

>> No.5005237

I played tsugumi route first, so when I played sora route I literally felt disgusted. it's not like she's got anything to offer compared to tsugumi either.

>> No.5005348 [SPOILER] 
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ITT we post things that aren't spoilers with spoiler tags.

Picture not related

>> No.5005443

>>5005237
>I played tsugumi route first

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP DOING THIS

>> No.5005444

>>5005443
People are drawn to the best character, obviously.

>> No.5005450

>>5005443
I just finished hers.

I'm going to have a hard time doing Sora's now. A real hard time.

>> No.5005471

>>5005443
Because it's the best choice to get into the game.

>> No.5005521

>>5005443

good thing i realized tsugumi was the best heroine and knocked off the shittiest routes first and kept her for last before coco's obviously

pretty much something i tend to do now with any vn

>> No.5005560

What would happen if Chami got eaten by a dog or a cat?

>> No.5005572

>>5005560
Nothing too pretty I bet

>> No.5005575

>>5005560
Chami would gnaw his way out through the stomach.

>> No.5005649

Why do people like Tsugumi so much? She's a whore.

>> No.5005720

>>5005649
you confused her with you're mom
she's a good girl and later a strong, independent woman.

>> No.5005729

>>5005720
Yeah except she gets knocked up by some guy she hardly knows.

>> No.5005878

>>5005729
Like you could resist takashi's sexynees. Even tsugumi with cure isn't immune to that.

>> No.5005886

>>5005878
She's not immune to semen apparently...

>> No.5005889

>>5005729
She raped him, she was the one who forced herself on Takeshi.

>> No.5005911

>>5005889
Takeshi is damaged goods?

>> No.5005940

>>5005911
Of course, that's why You didn't want to go out with him.

>> No.5006000

>>5005940
She said she loved him (If I recall) in the takashi bad end. And since that is youhara she totally could have, but I mean...you can't compete with tsugumi.

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>>5005560
*imagines Pipi eating Chami*

>> No.5007529

>>5006000
No, she said that she "liked" him. No mention of love. All she said was "I really like you" and then she died.

>> No.5007569

>>5005560
The dog/cat would be infected with Cure and Chami would die. It's not like Cure makes you immortal, it only gives you resistance against pretty much every disease imaginably and fastens your cell recovery by a lot. You can still die.

>> No.5007571

>>5007569
Also add that it keeps you from visibly aging. It is unknown if it stops the aging effect altogether or only preserves the 'look' of a younger body.

>> No.5007581

Has /jp/ really fallen so far that even Ever17 discussion is not a Black Bar Thread?
back in the day we'd have 200 replies of nothing but black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar black bar

>> No.5007595

>>5007571
I thought it was a pretty huge point that it at least lenghtened the live by a lot.
At least a normal hamster wouldn't have lived as long as chami already had by that point. He was at least 25 to 30 year old or something by the end. Which is already ten times the normal live span of hamsters according to wikipedia.

>> No.5007688

I just finished the Coco route about two days ago. It was incredibly awesome, but there were a few things that annoyed me. The first was how Takeshi suddenly came BACK TO LIFE to swim all the way to IBF. I mean, that's just a Deus ex machina right there. For that matter it was also annoying when Hokuto/Blick Winkel just SANK 300 SOMETHING FEET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN AND was PERFETLY FINE afterwords.

On a more technical note, how exactly did the "building a new LeMU in 2034" plan work out? It's pretty much predicated on BL taking the Kid's perspective, or else he would have noticed something's up. So how did they know that he would choose to use the Kid as his lens?

>> No.5007731

>>5007688
No, No onii-chan! Don't think so much!
It ruins the fun.

There are plot holes everywhere. Like the carvings by coco on the statue.

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>>5007581
Its 2010.
Everyone that is in /jp/ should have finished the game by now.
In the off chance you still havent play this fucking get off the internet and finish it before you come back.
It wouldnt even take you more than 1day.

Attached is a picture of your waifu dying in the washing machine. Sara and the future "you" is your kid and the future You is a clone.

>> No.5007756

>>5007688
1. Stupider things have happened in more 'realistic' VNs to people who weren't artificially immortal. If you couldn't suspend your disbelief for that but for a lot of the other things in the game, then the problem is yours.

2. They knew he whould take the kids perspective because they overlapped the dimensions to place Blick in the same position as before. By creating exactly the same situation as 17 years previous, they tricked him in the 4th dimension to relive the same day. Think of it as enforced deja vu.

>>5007731
What exactly about them are you saying is a plothole?

>> No.5007759

>>5007750
It wouldnt even take you more than 1day.

Ya....

>> No.5007762

>>5007756
They were sunk to the bottom of the ocean during takashi route. But in kid/coco route the carvings where still there.

>> No.5007764

>>5007759
It's about 20-30 hours long. So you could finish it in under 1 days time if you are a moderately fast reader.

>> No.5007774

>>5007759
>Skip all read text
Do you use it?

>>5007688
I think he survive because of the STD from Tsugumi.

>> No.5007784

Am I the only one that ended up with Sora route first because I was trying my hardest to avoid the bitchiest character? Sora is still my favorite too~

I played Tsugumi's last because I hated any scene with her. Even when she's supposedly confessing to you or whatever, she's as abrasive and tiresome as ever. Until the epilogue she almost never stops yelling at you.

>> No.5008046

>>5007784
Well she's even a bitch to you in the epilogue, what with smashing Takeshi over the head with a Lemur head and all. Although, truth be told, he was actually asking for it that time.

>> No.5008060

>>5007784
Yes you are, about 95% of all readers went straight for Tsugumi ie the best character in the game.

>> No.5008061

Tsugumi route was the best.

incest route was good. Because when they cried "mama" I wept like a raped schoolgirl.

>> No.5008063

>>5007762
>They were sunk to the bottom of the ocean during takashi route
And how did you figure that one out?

>> No.5008071

>>5007762
Remember who carved them with her? Remember who is one of the people recreating the whole LeMu? Do you really think he'd forget about those carvings? Right there was a massive flag scene for him and Coco, he'd never forget to include them.

>> No.5008184

Looking back on CC now, I think that it would've been cool to have a Tower of Friends-esque scenario in Ever17. Wouldn't it be awesome to see Takeshi chasing everyone through LeMU and turning them into chicken sandwiches?! I think so.

>> No.5008277

>>5008184
No. He instantly would be isolated away by Sora.

>> No.5008283

>>5007774
See, this is why you use condoms, kids.

>> No.5008293

>>5008283
The penalty for cumming inside Tsugumi is eternal life with super powers and her as a waifu?
Who the fuck would wear a condom?

>> No.5008301

>>5008283
So you don't get a delicious ninja daughter who's less than 10 years less mature than you,
you don't become immortal,
and you die from drowning while coughing up blood.

Right.

>> No.5008315

>>5008293
>>5008301
You now realize that the story would be ruined by safe sex practices.

>> No.5008349 [DELETED] 

>>5008283
Lets all think of an alternate universe where Takeshi use condom to fuck Tsugumi
>Coco sleeping the capsule
>Takeshi came out from the washing machine and drown to death
>No Sara/BlondeKid ie no Blick Winkle
>Tsugumi distraught from her loss, get captured by IBF and get raped/tortured repeatably because she can't die

>> No.5008359

>>5008349
>Coco sleeping the capsule
More like Coco dies on the floor from Tief Blau.
>get captured by IBF
IBF is the research facility under LeMU. Do you mean Leiblich?

>> No.5008360

>>5008283
Lets all think of an alternate universe where Takeshi use condom to fuck Tsugumi
>Coco sleeping in the capsule eternally
>Takeshi came out from the washing machine and drown to death
>No Sara/BlondeKid ie no Blick Winkle
>Tsugumi distraught from her loss, get captured by IBF and get raped/tortured repeatably because she can't die

>> No.5008367

>>5008359
Yeah Leiblich.
Oh ya I forgotten Takeshi was the one that put her into the capsule. Its been long time since I finished it.

>> No.5008374

>>5008360
It would make sense to continuously rape her. You could breed a race of super children who could see heat/in the dark. Since she couldn't die, every 9 months could be a new baby. Would be a great special forces unit in an army.

>> No.5008386

>>5008374
I don't think Sara has infravision.
Notice how only Hokuto noticed the door was hot.
I also wonder if the twins' birth was a coincidence.
Does Curé make you more fertile?
Also, does her hymen regenerate?

>> No.5008389

You wouldn't have unprotected sex with Tsugumi.

>> No.5008429

>>5008386
The pendent could only be seen with that special vision. Thats why only sara and kid can see it. Did you pay attention to the story at all.

>> No.5008432

>>5008386
>Also, does her hymen regenerate?
I actually wondered that and some point. Tsugumin is forever pure!

>> No.5008439

>>5008429
You're right.
Sara's just a dick then.

>> No.5008442

>>5008432
Nope, that doesn't count.

>> No.5008468

>>5008432
Tsugumi is like a virgin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NLVDfuVkA

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>>5008386
>Does Curé make you more fertile?

It's called plot device

>> No.5008487

>>5008468
Luka speaking english sounds horrible.

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>>5008386
>Does Curé make you more fertile?

It's called plot device.

>> No.5008498

>>5008432
Lets rewind back a bit.
Are you sure Tsugumi is a virgin before she fucked Takeshi? I mean she was leading and all and that proved she HAD EXPERIENCE.
She might be sexually abused when she was captured and got her hymen regenerated.

>> No.5008499

>>5008432
I agree with the theory that Tsugumi is forever a virgin too.

>> No.5008507

Every times the is woman with regenerative powers /a/ and /jp/ always end up talking about her hymen, the fuck?

>> No.5008515

>>5008507
It's an important question.

>> No.5008516

>>5008499
By your theory, girls with hymen reconstruction can be virgins twice

>> No.5008518

I don't remember Tsugumi raping Takeshi, i remember it was consensual in Cocos' route

>> No.5008522

>>5008518
It's not like you can actually rape guys anyway. At least if you're good looking.

>> No.5008523

>>5008518
We only called it rape because she obviously initiated the sex and push Takeshi down. Only homos and faggots will reject Tsugumi advances.

>> No.5008531

>>5008516
No. They will be (technically) forever virgins.

>> No.5008545

>>5008498
When she finds out she's pregnant she knows it's Takeshi's because he's the only man she's ever been with.

>> No.5010314

What VN is this??

>> No.5010523

>>5010314
Ever17.

>> No.5010527

>>5010314
You are retarded when it's in OP's post.
>>5010523
you shouldn't have answered.

>> No.5010541

>>5010527
Probably, but I was too lazy to ridicule the questioner.

>> No.5014442

bump

>> No.5015070

Huh. This thread's still alive.

>> No.5015076

>>5015070
see
>>5010314
>>5010523
Typical Necromancers.

>> No.5018044

bump

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>>5015076
Have some sara eating lettuce, that will cheer you up.

>> No.5023925

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