/jp/ - Otaku Culture

In hell.

You should be able to ask for solicited sex from a Korean hooker in Shibuya.

I know all the hiragana, is that a good start?

You should know at least half the hiragana.

>>496882

What? No katakana?

What do you think this is?

Also, you should have a handful of elementary kanji as well.

it's a pretty open-ended question if we don't know how much time you are spending per day
i doubt you're pumping in eight hours per day

>>496933
I should be able to get 2-4 hours a day, more if I feel like it.

>>496869
Different people learn at different rates, and different people will learn best with differing amounts of time spent per sitting, per day, and per topic, etc.

So, you're doing pretty good if you know more than when you started.

>>496933
im pumping it eight hours per day if you know what i mean

This thread has inspired me to sit down and learn Katakana today. I learned all hiragana in 3 hours with Heisig about a month ago. Then I got to his katakana book and its like "This one kinda looks like the hiragana, only totally different, lawl"

>>496974
That didn't happen.

In a week I was able to learn all the hiragana and katakana and a few kanji and actually retain all of it. Keep at it op and you'll be fine.

>>496974
Don't go at it and compare them to the hiragana. Just learn them all over again, in much the same fashion as you did the hiragana.

Also, OP: give us some kind of a hint. You could be good learning 5 hiragana, you could be fucked if you only know all the hiragana and katakana. What kind of timeframe are you looking for in learning all of Japanese? If you say "None, I just want to learn it" then stop fucking asking because it doesn't fucking matter where the fuck you are, fuck.

>>497004
Year to a year and a half. I want to learn enough so that I can play visual novels and watch anime. I do try to learn it, I actually managed to stay away from anything /jp/ related besides the language itself last week.

>>496869

>>496869
You should be in /b/. Please go back there. Now.

>>497043
Last time I went there I ended up getting banned, and this is /jp/ related.

>>I've been learning Japanese for a week now

You can't start "learning japanese" until you have all the kana memorized. I don't know about you, but that took me a few weeks, with brute memorization (writing them repeatedly), flash cards and Heisig's tips for memorizing them. Trying to take them all on at once will burn you out, though. Stick to the "K row" one week, then the "S row" another, etc.

The problem with learning moonspeak is that you don't have many places to PRACTICE it, unlike English, which is literally spoken everywhere.

>>496974

Yeah, I really hate how he said "just think of the hiragana version" to explain some--quite a few, actually--of them.

>>497065
Ya, going back through it now, the first 6 so far have all been "Its like the hiragana" and some of them don't look that similar.

Also, the book is a pain in the ass as an ebook.

>>497058
isn't memorizing the kana part of learning japanese...?

>>497097
No. No, it's not.

>>497091

Do what I do:

1) Buy a big binder at the dollar store, other if you want a more durable one LOL.

2) Torrent the ebook and put it on a flash drive.

3) Bring the flashdrive to multiple locations ie library, campus computer lab, etc. and print maybe 15-25 pages regularly, without telling them.

4) Use one of those huge triple-hole-punch things to put the pages in the binder.

5) Repeat until you've obtained the 300+ pages and made a rather beefy binder.

It'll take a bit, but it works. Fuck, they'd notice if you printed a hundred pages at once, but the local library won't miss fifteen or twenty pages on a regular.

>>497058
Learning the kana is itself part of the process of learning Japanese. So you can definitely say that you're learning Japanese when you don't know all the kana yet, if you're in the process of learning them.

Even if you disregard that, theoretically you could be perfectly fluent at spoken Japanese and not know any kana at all - after all, there are native speakers in that situation. Illiteracy exists in Japan, just like anywhere else.

>>497105
I have to swipe a card and get charged 0.07 for every page.

>>497115

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>497105
Yeah. Here it's 8 cents a sheet, everywhere.

>>497122

>>497115
>>497130


Wow, then I'd better abuse the fuck out of that before I transfer from community college to a four-year uni.

>>497105
er...I'd rather just spend 30$ for a book...

>>496869
DON'T HELP HIM

>>497159
I'll probably buy the Kanji one. The kana one isn't worth it.