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New Ar Tonelico thread, the previous thread (>>4846533) hit the bump limit.

>> No.4897199
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Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8M7BH61Q

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer + plugins + bios. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

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>> No.4897205

>>4897203

This is starting to get ridiculous. Where the fuck is my higher resolution?

>> No.4897228

For something a bit different, I've been playing Mana Khermia recently.
Awesome game.

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>>4897228

Mana Khemia is fine too.

>> No.4897247

>>4897228

Indeed it is!

ghost loli is awesome

>> No.4897286

>>4897228
I think it has the best combination of battle system, gameplay mechanics(crafting etc), characters and interaction.
It has an interesting setting as well.
The only issues are the slow plot(though the climax was quite decent) and the soundtrack(most themes are OK, few are great).

>> No.4897526

>>4897245
worse than muppy

>> No.4897546

>>4897286
I beg to differ. MK was no AT music-wise, but it was still very good.

>> No.4897559

>>4897245
Older version when executing super move is fine too.

>> No.4897563

>>4897546
I phrased it badly.
I meant it's not one of it's strengths.

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I've listened to the Hymmnos albums quite a lot but tended to dislike any tracks by Haruka Shimotsuki as I'm not really fond of her voice. However after playing through AT1 for the past few days her tracks are starting to grow on me, especially after running through Crescent Chronicle with EXEC_LINCA/. playing.

>> No.4897632

>>4897604
Her EXEC_VIENA. was decent. Have you listened to EXEC_ViiBaCi_MjiiRa_. or EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE_.?

>> No.4897716

>>4897632

>Her EXEC_VIENA. was decent.

It's a nice song but never really sticks out to me.

>EXEC_ViiBaCi_MjiiRa/.

I actually like this one although it gets a little annoying to listen to after a while so I tend to skip it quite a lot when it starts playing.

>EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/.

Actually this is one of my favourite tracks from the AT3 Hymmnos albums. It's a nice slow song and it's just sung really well. I'm still slightly disappointed that Akiko Shikata wasn't linked to Finnel though.. having her linked to the generic moeblob and putting out trash like EXEC_EP=NOVA/. makes me really disappointed.

>> No.4897748

Not been paying much attention to AT3-fag here.

Does Noriko Mitose do any singing in AT3?

EXEC_SPHILIA and EXEC_HARMONIUS_FYUSION are my favorite hymns...

>> No.4897754

>>4897748

Nope. I'm not sure of the circumstances but Tilia is voiced by KOKIA instead of Noriko Mitose.

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EXEC REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL

>> No.4897763

>>4897754

Fuck.

I'll just have to hunt for music by her from other places.

>> No.4897856

>>4897716
EXEC_EP=NOVA/. may be trash, but EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/. is one of the best songs in the game.

>> No.4898114

>>4897716
>I'm still slightly disappointed that Akiko Shikata wasn't linked to Finnel
My thoughts exactly.

>> No.4898156

So people who are playing, how's AT3 so far?

>> No.4898170
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>>4898156

It's like this.

>> No.4898219

I wish akiko put out more music like 金環蝕and 遥かなる旅路

>> No.4898241

>>4897748
She sings one song, it's really long though and really important.

>> No.4898253

>>4898170
I see DP is about as usefull as all the other games.

>> No.4898267

>>4898170
If that is your own picture, then nice setup.

>> No.4898278

>>4897604
>>4897716
On the contrary, Haruka is my favorite AT singer (I still love Noriko a lot though) and I'm very happy that she got to sing for Finnel instead of the fucking moeblob.

>> No.4898289

>>4898267

see filename.: >>4898170
>I wish I was this guy.jpg

>> No.4898296

>>4898241

Fuck, I forgot about XaaaCi. My bad.

>>4898267

Nope, I got that image from 2 or 3 threads ago. I'd say I'm jealous but I'm happy enough with my 32" TV.

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Is it just me or do these 2 new heroines look kinda "Meh" compared to the AT1-AT2 ones?

Then again they could have awsome personalitys but that i wont get to know for quite sometime id imagine.

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Naruto? In MY AT1?

>> No.4898326

>>4898278
>moeblob

Am I cool yet?

>> No.4898342

>>4898315
Believe it.

>> No.4898356
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>>4898315

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyfqsF2YRUA

Dat Elie and Marie.

>> No.4898486

>>4898253
Remaining DP was actually useful in AT1.

>> No.4898629

>>4898253
Cosmospheres actually take up surprisingly large amounts of DP in AT3.

You get a trophy for maxing out your DP too.

>> No.4898636

>>4898298
Finnel and Tilia are awesome.

Saki... Not so much.

>> No.4898750

any recommended graphic settings for AT2?

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>>4898750
Check the archives, it's been mentioned several times. For the split/distorted backgrounds use the gustfix.exe to run the emulator.

>> No.4899405

anyway to get rid of the black lines on sprites in battle?

>> No.4899553

Damn, I need to get playing to Ar Tonelico 1 and 2. And Atelier Iris 2 and 3. And Mana Khemia. Too bad I'll probably never see a release of Mana Khemia 2 here. I don't know if I should be happy or sad that all the other games I mentioned are sold for 9.99E at the nearest videogame shop.

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Kinda related, but could someone translate this Shikata Akiko interview please? A summary is fine too.

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>> No.4900527

>>4899837
In before pleasure of being cummed inside

>> No.4900798

>>4899837
I can't be bothered actually translating it, but I can tell you that there's nothing to do with Ar Tonelico in it.

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>>4899837
DOZO
http://pastebin.ca/1864136

But yeah, it's pretty much Umineko.

>> No.4900921

>>4900834
Aww

>> No.4901055

>>4900834
Thanks a bunch ;__;

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>>4900834

3 whole pages about Umineko and not a word about AT? Interesting..

>> No.4901622

Do all reyvateils live super long lives or just important ones?

>> No.4901638

>>4901622
Just important ones.

In fact, average ones have diminished lifespans, IIRC.

>> No.4901652

>>4901622
Speaking of which, how do reyvatiels plug their holes with delicious crystals when no one is around?

A lonely reyvatiel would just die.

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>>4901518
>>4897604
Hama is so hnng.

>> No.4901670

>>4901622

Only the origin Reyvateils live long lives, I believe. Normal Reyveteils (including artificial ones like Misha) just live normal life spans. Installing to them however may reduce their life span since it's mentioned in AT1 that it's basically like poison to them. I may be wrong though, I've only played AT1 so far and haven't really looked into it much.

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>>4901667

Hama was one of the best parts of Misha's cosmosphere.

>> No.4901976

>>4901670

B-Types like Misha live about 150 years, I think. Third Generations usually don't live past 20 without Diquility or Tranquility. Or something like that.

Origins can live for as long as the tower they're connected to is working, I want to say?

>> No.4901999

>>4901735
Hama was THE best part. At least half of the reason I chose Misha was Hama.

If Aurica would've behaved like she did in her cosmosphere with the handcuffs and everything, though...then it might've been a tougher battle.

>> No.4902106

>>4901976

>B-Types like Misha live about 150 years, I think

I assumed they had a standard life span considering Misha ages normally in AT1 and matures into a grown woman at the normal rate. Oh well.

>Origins can live for as long as the tower they're connected to is working, I want to say?

I think this is correct. I recall Shurelia mentioning something about the origins being crated for a purpose and that is to be the administrator to the tower. As long as the tower remains functional then so will the origin.

>> No.4902120

>>4901735
>Hama was THE best part of the whole game.

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>>4902120

I dunno, the game has quite a few awesome parts that it's hard to consider a single thing the 'best'.

>> No.4902206

>>4902106
I wouldn't really call Chronicle Key-induced aging normal. But no, Betas typically live about 150 years, and third generations don't live long after their Reyvateil gene manifests without Diquility.

Incidentally, in both cases, Reyvateils basically stop aging once the gene manifests itself.

>> No.4902251

I bought this game but never played it. The art is nice though.

>> No.4902668

which path is more interesting in AT2? I plan to go for the Third Reyvateils ending but im almost at the first split and was wondering if one of the paths is better then the other.

>> No.4902682

>>4902668
Personally, I'd say Cloche's.

>> No.4902826

>>4902668
Luca's path is full of angst and relationship issues while Cloche's is full of pain and suffering she got from Grand Bell assholes. Both are equally boring, but in my opinion choose Cloche for an easier time.

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>>4902668

Make a save, choose both.

>> No.4904045

Excuse the possibly stupid question but where does EXEC_HARVESTASYA/. play? I'm pretty sure it's from AT1 (since the start of it is the same as the Singing Hill theme that plays in the intro) but unless I'm going blind it's not on any of the OST's or Hymmnos albums. I thought it might be an unused song but I can't see it in my Akiko Shikata discography and it also has the proper EXEC_ tag on it too so I doubt it.

>> No.4904065 [DELETED] 

>>4897199
Is this for PC? Sorry, I really don't know what this game is about, but I've been seeing a lot of threads on it lately, and it looks interesting.

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>>4903537
The choice is even easier now.

>> No.4904141

There is not enough Mir in this thread. You dissapoint me, anon

>> No.4904183

>>4902106
Beta-Types age normally until they finish puberty, then their ageing slows, allowing them to live up to around 150 years old.

Chronicle Key singers generally don't live for more than 30 years though, constantly singing puts a huge strain on their bodies.

>>4904045
It's not in any of the games, Shikata just wanted to do another song in Hymmnos.

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>>4904045
There are 5 versions of Utau Oka. The 3 Harmonics (3 AT games), EXEC_HARVESTASYA and Salavec Rhaplanca. The last 2 aren't directly related to the games.

Look in her Harmonia and Raka albums.

>> No.4904625

>>4904496

Urgh, I feel so silly. I looked in RAKA earlier but because of the folder layout I didn't see the last track which was EXEC_HARVESTASYA/..

>>4904183

Interesting. Putting it that way it must be kind of sad for Misha, the origins etc. if they were to get emotionally attached to someone only to outlive them just because of what they are.

>> No.4904903

>>4904625
That's also true for anyone who falls in love with a 3rd gen, the diquility does extend their lives, but they do end up dying much sooner than humans.

>> No.4904922

>>4904625
Now I wonder if there's fanart of Shurelia crying over Lyner who's dying due to old age.

>> No.4905404

>>4904922

Lyner: Shurelia-sama.. Thank you for everything.. it was really fun being with you..
Shurelia: Lyner.. don't say such things.. Lyner? Lyner!! ;______;

A few days later Shurelia locks herself up and hits the bottle. She was never heard from again.

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>>4905404
;_;
Out of all the AT girls, Shurelia's "Lyner" turns me on the most. Second would be loli Misha.

>> No.4905600

>>4904903
A RT with proper diquility administration has the same lifespan as a regular human. Imagine being 70 years old while banging your wife who looks like 18 ;_;

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>>4905518

>> No.4906209

These threads constantly remind me that I need to start playing AT2.

How do the girls compare to AT1? considering shurelia was my favorite.

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>>4906209
Lively, way too lively and complicated. They bitch and angst, and they try to kill you in the cosmospheres as well. Just bear with it until you get the third Reyvateil.

>>4906133
I'd install in your port anyday, if you know what I mean.

>> No.4906659

>>4906209
Most of the whining is that they're too real. I've only played through Cloche's route so far, though, so take that with a grain of salt.

>> No.4906749

>>4906209
The first 2 are really annoying and bitchy but the third Reyvateil makes up for it.

>> No.4906764

>>4906749
You mean cocona? Yea
She is so adorable.

>> No.4906915

>>4906764
Cocona and Sasha are pretty lovely. God tier lolis.

>> No.4906934

>>4906209
My opinion is Cloche>3rd reyvateil>every side character>manipulative bitch Luca

>> No.4906950

Misha was here. Everyone else is an inferior waifu.

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I was planning on playing Resonance of Fate tonight but after listening to EXEC_PHANTASMAGORIA/. again I suddenly feel that I must finish my AT1 playthrough. Plus I still need to woo Shurelia.

Lalalalalala~

>> No.4907038

This song is now stuck in your head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

>> No.4907074

>>4906209
If you want to follow everyone's advice and go for the 3rd (and better) reyvateil, don't dive past any of the other two's level 5 cosmospheres or you'll be locked into that particular reyvateil's ending. It'll be pretty clear when the big decision is, as it will ask you if you want to be with them or something like that.

>> No.4907085

Are we not allowed to talk about the mule?
Do we have to talk about the mule without referring to the mule's name?

>> No.4907114

>>4907085
It's spoilerish for AT2 so people are being considerate.

>> No.4907131

God damnit.
I liked cocona better when she was all "hey cro, its dangerous. i wanna go too!"

And was cute as all fuck

>> No.4907188 [SPOILER] 
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>>4907085

I'm pretty sure 99% of the people reading these threads will know who Jacqli/Jakuri/Mir/Mule is.

>> No.4907363

>>4907188
I think it's good if we don't spoil it for the people who haven't played AT2 yet. I think it would have been much better if I didn't know the fact beforehand.

>> No.4907438

>>4907363
You would have never played if you didnt know you could flirt with her and eat her panties

Admit it
You know it to be true

>> No.4907484

It's not really much of a spoiler if you played the first game, as her identity should be immediately obvious. If you didn't play the first game, then her identity is of no particular significance to you, anyway. There's not really a reason to dance around it, in my opinion.

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I'm confused. I did some scene at the church and now Radolf is saying to go to the temple.. so I've run around the Em Phayna temple for about 10 minutes now and nothing is happening.

Also a tsundere administrator is fine too.

>> No.4907538

Shurelia was so awesome. I really wish she join you earlier, same with ayatane.

>> No.4907609

wait, at2 has mir?

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>>4907518

Image related.

>>4907609

Play it and see for yourself.

>> No.4907661

>>4907642
oh god lol i remember that
I ran around for fucking days

Unfortunately for you I dont remember what I had to do

>> No.4907665

>>4907642
go talk with flute at the temple grounds

>> No.4907669 [DELETED] 

>>4907642
Are they talking about the one where Tilia's statue is? I've completely forgotten.

>> No.4907688

>>4907665

Was the first thing I done. Flute says nothing, no scene occurs.

>>4907669

... honestly I have no idea. I was so fucking tired from playing AT1 all day that I was barely paying attention to what the faggot was saying because I just wanted to save and go to bed. The objective thing at the inn says we're looking for clues about Mir.

>> No.4907716

>>4907642
been playing for the past hour

I put on my tripcode and wizard hat.

So far:
Crazy new setting
Crazy new battle system
Crazy new reyvateil diseases
Cloche is a bitch

>> No.4907721

>>4907688
Was this right at the start of Phase 3?

>> No.4907732

>>4907716
She has to be a bitch to get anything done

Just wait until she puts on a funbo tee

>> No.4907751

Sweet balls there's a blue lion and he's talking at me, also a pink haired ninja girl.

>> No.4907755

>>4907721

I tried to enter Crescent Chronicle to stop Mir but was unable to because we don't understand her situation and motives. Dunno how far that is but that's the last thing I remember.

>> No.4907760

>>4907751
over powered healing awesomness ninja

>> No.4907800

>>4907755
Oh? Have you already spoken to Spica and all the other "important" people you can think of off the top of you head?

>> No.4907803

Suddenly, a Luca. Everyone has such fabulous hair circles, I want one too.

>> No.4907821

Oh god, luca the ditz and cloche the bitch don't get along.

At least the background music is nice.

>> No.4907838

>>4907821
If it means anything to you, I felt the game got a lot better once you make your 'decision' like 20 hours into the game.

>> No.4907847

>>4907800

I don't think I've spoken to anyone.. not since running around trying to gather up my party again at the start of Phase 3. Anyway I think I've managed to progress. Some shop girl in Kurulu village mentioned something about Singing Hill so I went there and a scene triggered so I guess I'm back on track. Fuck you Radolf for making me waste time. This is why I don't use him.

>> No.4907857

My favorite part of AT2 was the synthesis between Skycat and Jakuri. Shit had me giggling a bit. I kinda wanted to woo Skycat as well..

>> No.4907884

reisha's song starting to play while inside that one dungeon

you will probably ;_;

>> No.4907905

It feels so awkward to play AT1 after Playing AT2.
And I miss the combat sistem.

>> No.4907968

Cloche dive attempt 1 was a complete failure, but that was obviously scripted. Still failed on the second attempt, not sure if that was my fault or not, at least I still got a song out of it.

>> No.4908228

Getting more used to the new battle system, but having to keep track of 2 reyvateils at once is kind of a pain. I see they built on the new 2 reyvateil system with 'Sync Level' though, that's kind of cool.

>> No.4908269

>>4908228
you'll use sync and harmonics later in the game. they are useless for a long time.

>> No.4908270

>>4908228
AT2 battle system is actually sort of fun, unlike AT1's which was basically drudgery in between dating sim parts.

This guy >>4907905 got it right, playing AT out of order is a horrible idea because AT2 is so much better.

>> No.4908400

>"Ok, that's the last Misha talk topic regarding her clothing in fights, I guess I'll start using Shurelia now.."
>Fight starts
>Shurelia throws Primal Word at the enemy whilst clumsily falling to the ground

Gentlemen.. I have obtained true moe.

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>>4908400
Dojikko

>> No.4908536

>>4908400

She does it sometimes in Cross-edge too. And when you have her switch formations; she will randomly fall on her face.

>> No.4908540

>>4908448

Good thing she isn't in Phantasy Star 2.....

>> No.4908572

You can only do synthesis in certain places now, interesting.

>> No.4908664

WHAT IS THIS BATHING NONSENSE

and is there a way to optimize the benefit I get from it by placing the crystals in different places?

>> No.4908701

>>4908664
Place a toy somewhere and create a path of crystals towards it. Place your reyvateil in the beginning of said path and hope she goes towards it.

>> No.4908714

>>4908701

yeah, it's rare for a girl to go in a circle, thus collecting a ton of powerups

>> No.4908757

I just noticed, but mint block and milkry forest's locations on the 2D map on the right, don't match their location on the 3D map on the left. This bothers me greatly.

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Whoever made this area can go choke on a dick. After about 20 fights the encounter bar has only gone down that much. I know I can just run from every fight but it's still mildly annoying having an encounter every 5 seconds..

>> No.4908774

>>4908769
There's a fairly easy to synthesize item that just empties the bar.

>> No.4908795

>>4908769
Plasma Bell? Yeah, it's kind of annoying, but it has a benefit later on when trying to get Shurelia's last spell.

>> No.4908851

man, they're practically shoving the foreshadowing down my throat

>> No.4908987

This ninja girl, Amarie, her voice hurts my ears.

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>>4908987
Never used her. I always stuck with Cocona because... well... it's Cocona. But some Anon mentioned that she can be rather powerful.

>> No.4909040

>>4909026

Yeah, she's pretty broken. One of her down attacks is a heal, so you don't have to worry about switching to blue magic if your health gets low.

>> No.4909066

>>4909026
is that from the game?

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4909077

>>4908774

Don't get me wrong, I like the occasional bit of grinding, even if I've got a stupid amount of DP. But that was just silly. Forced to run around in a maze with fights every 3 seconds with an encounter bar that just doesn't empty.. just seems a little excessive in comparison to the rest of the game.

>>4908795

Yep, Plasma Bell. Which reminds me, I need to continue the story with Shurelia. Image related.

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>>4909040
The problem is that there really weren't really many situations where I'd be in trouble in terms of health. Just hit those Perfects and you should be fine. Hell, Greats are okay too. Replekia just adds to the insanity.

Please join my team, Akane... ;_;

>> No.4909090

>>4909066
Yup.

>> No.4909105

>>4909081

Well, she also has that pain debuff iirc, which is pretty good as well. The game obviously isn't very hard, but it's nice if you're fighting level 9 IPDs or if you're emulating and on one of the fights that lag the game to shit.

>> No.4909138

>>4909077

She sure doesn't look too happy there.

>> No.4909162

So while I'm hanging out in enna, I'm wondering, will I see any connections between this game and the first?

I'm pretty sure it's the same universe type deal, but I haven't seen any mention of the tower or any characters from the last game.

Did I miss something?

>> No.4909180

>>4909162

There are three towers in the AT universe, and each game takes place on a different one.

Spica runs the pharmacy in Enna, actually. Mir and Shurelia will show up later. There are some references to AT3 characters, too.

>> No.4909184

>>4909162
Did you just start? If so, you'll have one join your party later on, you'll have others make an appearance later on, and AT1 characters will be mentioned in some character conversations.

>> No.4909274

About the Plasma Bell encounters, there's a rare encounter there where you can get, I think, the best thing for Shurelia. Also it should be the best area for Leaf from battles.

>> No.4909298

is there anyplace that has the cutscenes uploaded for AT2?i downloaded the undub the they arnt subtitled

>> No.4909435
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Sorry Misha but Shurelia is my new waifu now.

>> No.4909740

This is a pain, what's the point of having a 2 reyvateil battle system if it never lets me use 2 at a time after I learn how?

>> No.4909784

>>4909740

The second is basically a backup singer. If you only have 1 Reyvateil (happens quite often during the story) you'll only charge the boost meter at half speed. Also, later on, you can have them sing dual magics. That's what those waves on the bottom are for; Down attacks bring them into sync.

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>>4909274

I see. I guess I'll head there again tomorrow. I just finished up with Shurelia's cosmosphere so I'm pretty much ready to concentrate on the story and finish the game. Then I'll have it to do all over again with AT2, oh joy.

>> No.4910046

>>4909784
Bear in mind that once you activate the sync, the song will execute no matter what (after the chain of combos your vanguards can do).

>> No.4910053

C-Cocona ;_;

>> No.4910160
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Cocona's EX move at endgame deals more damage than anyone else, and she's on pretty good terms with Cloche and Jacqli. So many reasons to have her in your active party.

>> No.4910166

>>4910160

No seriously, why does Cocona look so much older here?

>> No.4910191

>>4910166
Serious face and her hair is down. Makes her look older.

>> No.4910196

>>4910166

Hair down.

>> No.4910198

>>4910166
hair

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What a pity, I though Shurelia would be a much better Song Magic.

>> No.4910232

>>4910191
>>4910196
>>4910198
hairmind

I guess that would be a major factor.

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4910235

Also who the hell is this from the artbook? Skycat?

>> No.4910238

>>4910219

She does have better(higher damaging) song magic, but her burst %'s for song evolutions are higher as well, I guess that's the trade-off.

>> No.4910243

>>4910219

She is so humping that medicine bottle.

>> No.4910246

>>4910219
What did that look like again? The only song magic I really remember from shurelia was 'ar tonelico'

>> No.4910247

>>4910235
one of luca's friends

>> No.4910263

>>4910235

Nono, that... girl who... helps out or something when shit gets way serious after Infelsphere 5. I think.

>> No.4910271

>>4910246
This is from Ar Tonelico 2's Jacqli song magic list. Jacqli gets Ar Tonelico and Phantasmagoria as a song magic very late into the game.

>>4910247
So it's Nana? Thanks for clearing that up.

>> No.4910349

>>4910271
I don't think so. Nana is more loli than that. Unless they've aged her for that portrait for some reason.

>> No.4910475

>>4910349
Was she really loli? All I remember was that she was around Luca's age.

>> No.4911016

Currently went down an elevator to some ISP slums or something like that

gonna resume tomorrow

>> No.4911318

>>4909026
Why do we get a random shot of Amarie's boobs there? I mean, besides the obvious.

>> No.4911429

>>4910349
Nana? She is about the same age as Luca and that's really her pic.

>> No.4911463

So what was up with Luca and Skycat's les-curious relationship in AT2

>> No.4911501

>>4911463
Nana wants to hit on Luca like the fist of an angry god while Luca doesn't know what to do to resist it.

>> No.4911507

>>4911501
I meant Skycat...

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>>4911463
Skycat is try to be awesome but Luca being a bitch, is only okay with being lesbians with Cloche.

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>>4909805

Holy shit I must have been tired. I woke up in my bed with my mouse, keyboard and controller still lying around me along with the monitor still on. Oh well, back to playing AT again. I suppose I'll get that grinding out of the way first at Plasma Bell. Also does Shurelia have any other costumes? I don't mind having her in her default outfit (not linkage since it has a shitty burst rate) but I'd like to see her in some others.

>> No.4911840

>>4911829
Nope

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>>4911840

This makes me sad.

>> No.4911984

>>4911854
You aren't the only one, my friend. I also wanted my waifu dressed as a bride or a maid in battle.

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4912245

There's a sleeping battle loli right in front of me and I can't do a damn thing.. ;_;

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Finnel's Normal End in AT3:

Raphael: Truly magnificent. As thanks for saving the world, I shall grant you whatever you desire, so long as it lies within my power.

Aoto: If I have Finnel, I don't need anything else.


;_;

>> No.4912543

>>4912245
Fight a few battles and she'll wake up.

>> No.4912625

>>4912543

Oh, I know she will. But that wasn't exactly what I was referring to..

>> No.4912654

Cro + Jaquli
Amari + Cloche
Confirmed for replekia devestation
Its fun to waste lvl 9 ipds in one spell

>> No.4912685

>>4912625
Personally I prefer that it was released without an 18+ only rating on it.

>>4912654
Now wait until you get to the level that you beat the level 9 IPDs before charging replekia to 100,000%

made me want to equip my vanguard with whiffle bats so I had enough time to actually nuke them.

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>>4912654
Enter Synchronity Chain, charge LvE song magic to 50,000%, waste Lv9s in one hit. Only takes 4 turns.

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>>4912685

Oh the innuendo is great and all but that wont stop me from wanting to do certain things. Yes, I realize my mind is in the gutter.

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Does anyone knows where are the Revyateil's install ports?

Misha - I forgot about hers.
Aurica - Back of her neck.
Shurelia - Above butt.
Sonnet - Back of hand.
Cloche - Left armpit?
Luca - Back? She takes off her clothes when you insert Infelsphere Keys.
Jacqli - Unknown
Frelia - Unknown

>> No.4913416

>>4913396
Misha - between her breasts
Frelia - looks like above butt

>> No.4913536

>>4913396
Isn't jakuri's below her stomach??

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Battle loli get.

>> No.4913933

>>4913536

That seems to be where a lot of people draw it, but I don't remember any indication in the official material that that was the case.

>> No.4914009

>>4913396
wait what, I thought it was on the vag00

>> No.4914017 [SPOILER] 
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Lets do this shit.

>> No.4914030 [SPOILER] 
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>>4914017
Too bad the only one she's showing her feelings to is Croix.

>> No.4914034

>>4914017
Do you ever find a trace of what's her face's airship buddy?

>> No.4914048

>>4914034
Visit Dragon's Nest and that village, and you'll get a scene that tells you something about the boyfriend. Other than that, nothing much.

>> No.4914099
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A tiny request if no-one minds.
I could do with a savegame for the emulators that has all of Jacqli's cosmospheres unlocked.

As i had to reinstall my pc and would like to check out a few things without playing the entire game over again.

>> No.4914136

>>4914034
i think hes supposed to be one of the chars in #3

>> No.4914205
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I noticed Toukousphere is hardly ever brought up here. People who have lots of free time go read it up, it's informative.

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere

>> No.4914301

>>4914034

Nope. As mentioned if you visit the village at Dragons Nest you'll get a short scene showing that Luke (I think..) was recently there for repairs to his shop but moved on. You then get a short scene showing Krushe getting slightly depressed and explaining that she thought she was over him but she obviously isn't. Then she goes on to say that she feels like Lyner is something of an older brother to her and then she asks him out as a joke. That's about all you hear about it.

Anyway just finished my dinner, time to finish this last fight up.

>> No.4914335

Don't know if this has been answered before, but what's Cloche's Hymm code or she doesn't need one? And Luca should have the same Hymm code as Frelia right?

>> No.4914342

>>4914030

Surprise, they remake AT1 and make a Phase 4, just do screw with those shippers and condemn Mir to an idiot!

>> No.4914385

>>4914335
Yes, Luca is using Frelia's Hymn code and Cloche, as an IPD, doesn't have one.

>> No.4914488

>>4914099
2nd this request myself as i missed a few topics and missed out on level9.

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Mir confirmed for easy mode.

Fuck yeah, lalalalalala~ end.

Also: Fuck, I forgot to save.

>> No.4914592

>>4914488
You can use savegame files from gamefaqs, even PS3's ones are good.
There was a guide on how to do it somewhere on the internet, use google to search.

>> No.4914619

>>4914385
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.4914717
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While redoing the last few bits because I want to see Misha's ending I couldn't help but get curious at this scene again. Leard says he'll be staying alive to see his grandkids which causes the reaction in this screenshot. Misha and Aurica I can understand but even Shurelia wants the pleasure of being cummed inside it seems.

Also that ending difference was pretty shitty. I shouldn't have wasted those 10 minutes playing through at like x5 speed. Oh well, onto AT2 I go.

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>>4914592
After some work i figured out how to make those work.
Thanks alot bro +10intarwebs for you.

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A wild Cocona appears! Also these sprites seem so ugly in comparison to AT1.

>> No.4914924

HEAVEN OR HELL, LET'S ROCK!

Luca or Cloche?

>> No.4914954

>>4914924
This is bound to ignite flames.
Luca.

>> No.4914980

>>4914924
Cocona

>> No.4914982

>>4914924
I dunno.
Bitchy teenage whore/hippy or sword wielding pasta tits with best ability ever

>> No.4915047

>>4914982
See, this is why the Luca faction is better; we don't feel the need to troll the other faction to reassure ourselves.

>> No.4915060

>>4914924
Easy mode for rapid ending gets: Pick the one you don't want, don't dive past level 5 cosmosphere until just before the ending of the game.

Clear with no Level 5 Cosmospheres
Clear w/ 3rd RT's Cosmosphere cleared
Clear with The RT you didn't want's Cosmosphere cleared

Replay with RT you want to play with. Dive at your leisure and enjoyment.

Hooray, a winner is you.

>> No.4915086

Ok, I'm gonna do both

>> No.4915196

>>4915047
Enjoy your traitorous bitch

>> No.4915219

>>4915196
Discussed a thousand times now. Enjoy your failed trollan attempt.

>> No.4915236

>>4914924
they both suck

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Superior 3d faction reporting in.

>> No.4915410

Infel is the best touhou

>> No.4916124

Is there a way to save screenshots in .jpg with GSdx? I was using ZeroGS fine in AT1 but it's being a little screwy with AT2 (screen randomly flickering with FPS dropping down to 20 or so) so I'm using GSdx now. Also there seem to be random boxes appearing on some of the portraits using GSdx that never appeared with ZeroGS so is there a fix for that? Using the latest plugins if that makes any difference..

>> No.4916550

>>4913396
Sonnet? Who is that? From Arpeggio?

>> No.4916625

>>4916550

Yep.

http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Sonnet

>> No.4916644

>>4916550
Yep. And then there's Pheyna from the OVA .... namunamunamunamunamunamunamunamu

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Croix is a premature diver.. interesting. I'm not really all that impressed so far with Cloche/Luca. At least there's Cocona and Mir to look forward to. I want my old AT1 reyvateils back. ;_;

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4917312

hello fellows

>> No.4917340

>>4916625

God, did Arpeggio sucked ...

>> No.4917540

Did Kruche appear in the AT2? The farthest I got in AT was when you meet the loli that finds stuff for you, so i have no idea if Kruche dies or has happy ending or whatever at the end of AT.

>> No.4917569

>>4917540

Read up a little about what happens with her and her love interest Luke or whatever. At the end of AT1 it shows the characters going off to do their own thing, Misha travelling the world singing etc. and it shows Krusche and Jack talking beside the airship with Jack offering to be a bodyguard for Krusche as she travels to 'an unknown hell'. Mir hitches a ride with them and they arrive in AT2.

>> No.4917639

>>4917569

But no, they don't physically appear in AT2. You only see them in AT3, I believe.

>> No.4917775

>>4917639
Thanks for the info.

>> No.4917877

>>4917312
aww, poor mir.

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Infel is the only choice for AT2. Nenesha comes in a close second.

>> No.4918091

>>4917569
Does it actually show her hitch a ride in or is just talked about in #2?

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>>4918091
All references to AT1 were only through word of mouth, you don't see any of them save for Spica.

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>> No.4919401

>>4919314
You got me interested. What's inside?

>> No.4919442

>>4918237
Well, Spica and the more obvious one you see.

>> No.4919832

It makes me wonder, do they get sent the images on the Ar Portal or do they just browse Pixiv like the rest of us? Cos I think that'd be kind of cool having them browsing Pixiv looking at porn of their own characters.

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>> No.4922094

>>4914342
Lyner has already subtly corrupted her by teaching her his one true passion. If you pay attention, he already got her hooked on Funbuns.

When she makes fun of Lyner for giving her a box full of them as a parting gift, Spica notes "Yes, but you did end up chugging them all down rather quickly, didn't you?" and later on she's pissed off at the "Funboons" for being a cheap ripoff.

>> No.4922384

>>4917569
>>4922094
when do those happen the only scene i remember with her in the ending is when they are crafting the song and ayatane meets her in the forest

>> No.4922842

who is alice in cloches Cosmosphere? i wnet with the third girls path so i never found out.

>> No.4922964

>>4922842
That would be telling...

Alice is Cloche

>> No.4922968

>>4922842
Leyka's repressed childhood memories.

>> No.4923066

stop the installs ;_;

>> No.4923375

I haven't played AT3 so excuse the possibly stupid question but how exactly do the different personalities work? A toukousphere explains that the Reyvateils in AT1 and 2 generate clothes via song magic but how exactly do the girls in AT3 turn into completely different personas? Clothes I can understand but turning into completely different characters is stretching it a little. Then again they strip down to power up now so nothing really surprises me anymore.

>> No.4923500

does it ever explain why the girls in AT3 strip to gain power?

>> No.4923541

>>4923500

Clothing constricts power being absorbed or something. So stripping down effectively increases their power and allows them to execute stronger song magic.

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I like this guy on Pixiv because he's been drawing a different AT character every day for the past week or so.

>> No.4924495

I got oh so close from killing mir in the crescent chronicle in at1

Can anyone explain the ending you get if you can pull it off?

>> No.4924523

I got the AT1 light novel today. Should get the AT2 one within the next week - I want to read it desperately.

But ... Shurelia ... is actually totally like her character in the cosmosphere. It's absolutely shocking. ALSO JESUS CHRIST NO YOU CAN'T BE A WAITRESS IN LINKAGE SHURELIA-SAMA WHAT THE FUCK god dammit

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>>4924495
bad end

>> No.4924541

>>4916644

Wait. What? There's an AT OVA?

>> No.4924555

>>4924541
Not very good, from what I've heard. You need to know AT1 in order to fully understand it. Pretty much just advertising.

>> No.4924559

>>4924541
It's shit. Misha has 5 seconds of screentime.

>> No.4924565

>>4924536
What's the Bad End? I've beaten AT1 but got my ass raped the first time by Mir. Only game I know where the bad end is harder to get than the others.

>> No.4924572

>>4924523
there is a At light novel? Do you have a link to where you can buy them?

>> No.4924574

>>4924541
Well, there's more like an episode of AT where Lyner crashes, Aurica shows up, and then the airship falls down to Firefly Alley, where Sleipnir shows up for no raisin, and then Krusche fixes the airship so they fly up into the Blastline and kill Sleipnir. And it's kind of poorly animated. But it has Pheyma, and randomly uses music from the game.

It's definitely worth watching once (well, I'll say that about anything AT-related at this point), but it's not exactly fantastic.

>> No.4924584

>>4924574
>Sleipnir shows up for no raisin
What the fuck? He went all the way down there and didn't even get a raisin?

>> No.4924592

>>4924565
"Hooray! You beat up on a little girl to save the world, you heartless bastards."

>>4924572
>buy

But seriously, you can get basically any official AT merchandise from Amazon. I just ordered a ton of stuff myself (hence the light novelling).

The AT1 novel you'll have to get from an affiliate, and if you care about having physical copies of the drama CDs I think getting some of the AT1 ones is hard now, too, but pretty much everything else is easily available.

>> No.4924607

>>4924592
Uh, how is killing her worse than locking her up in the crescent chronicle for eternity?

You know, she was attacking and killing people.
And blowing up half the world...

>> No.4924629

>>4924607
I'm not asking this to be an ass, honest, but did you not finish the good end, or do you just hate Mir?

>> No.4924661

>>4924592

Well not exactly, you kill Mir so Misha does not have to sing but Misha only had sing again because Lyner awaken Shurelia (of course NOT doing that nets a "bad end" as well).

>> No.4924669

>>4924607

Because Mir is also a victim and Lyner is a idiot, he wanted a world were everyone could live.

Killing Mir is just taking the easy way out.

>> No.4924682

>hate Mir?
This is impossible. Mir is love.

>> No.4924707

Not the person who's been asking about bad end before, but is there a decent youtube clip of it? There was one I was watching that had the bad end final boss and everything, but the vidmaker abruptly cuts it off right after Mir is defeated. They didn't show the aftermath.

>> No.4924717

>>4924707

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRj3wQqxgg&feature=related

>> No.4924718

>>4924629

>>4924565
Here. I'm not
>>4924607

I love Mir with all my heart. Just curious. I guess if I want to know specifics I'll have to just do it myself. Time to fire up AT1 again.

>> No.4924731

>>4924682
Mir is peace, acutally. Or world.

>> No.4924761

>Can anyone explain the ending you get if you can pull it off?
Use blast fill. Rip and Tear.

>> No.4924765

>>4924717

Thanks.

>> No.4924773

I tried to find out what happened in between sol ciel and sol marta, but I couldnt find much other than spica happened to find mir naked in firefly alley.

Does anything cover how mir happened to meet up with the old fart and start hunting for hearts? She mentioned finding hearts to save her world, but that would imply sol ciel, which I thought was just fine...

>> No.4924783

>>4924773
>to save her world, but that would imply sol ciel
why restrict it to sol ciel?

>> No.4924795

>>4924717

I like how Lyner more or less said you screwed up.

>> No.4924800

>>4924783
why would she take hearts of gaia away from one part of the "world" to take to another place? I am assuming that would cause problems with the landmass she took it from, thus not really saving the world as a whole.

I dunno, I am not a heart of gaia engineer.

>> No.4924814

>>4924795
Well, yeah. The whole game has the undercurrent of having everyone live in peace, then you're given the option:

1) EVERYONE
2) EXCEPT HER

The choice should be obvious and Tastiella was right to stop him. You'd have to be pretty boneheaded to not have seen it.

>> No.4924821

>>4924800

Well I guess it can be done since that is what happen at the end of AT2.

>> No.4924823

>>4924814
I will add that Lyner fits the description of boneheaded

>> No.4924839

>>4924592
i asked because i didnt see the novels on amazon jp all i found were fanbooks and comics

>> No.4924864

>>4924800

Mir said in the Toukosphere that she only took a small piece of the heart, or something along those lines. I also seem to recall reading somewhere that she didn't really know why she was on a mission to do this; Shurelia simply told her it needed to be done, and she trusted her judgment.

>> No.4924867

>>4924839
AT1: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B32-%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E
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Sorry for the crappy link spam. Damn you, Amazon.

>> No.4924974

>>4924867
thank you

>> No.4925483

>>4924717

I like how there's not even a clip after the credits of the characters as some sort of closure to the game. It just abruptly ends with you killing Tastliela and Mir along with Lyner realising that he's a giant faggot.

>> No.4925490

Hearing all this about the International Version just makes me more pissed off that they didn't localize it for America. Ironic name is ironic.

>> No.4926457
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4926457

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm93097

Skip to 8:50 and you can literally feel thousands of Japanese otaku's nutbladders explode.

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>>4926457

Shurelia's ending was a little unfair. On one hand you only have her for a few hours at most, her 'cosmosphere' is relatively short, you don't get costumes out of it and overall you don't interact with her that much compared to Aurica and Misha. On the other hand she's deliciously moe, falling in combat, acting tsundere around Lyner etc. And yet none of this really effected my decision to pick her. Overall I'd have picked her anyway but the main reason I really selected her was guilt. Just know what she's been through all this time.. only to find someone she can trust and confide in. Someone who she actually has feelings for. And then being rejected.. Having her heart broken the moment she begins to confide and trust in others after all these years.. it's just too much for a faggot like me.

Also god damn it Zun, I just watched that video and all I can hear is lalalalalalala~ again.

>> No.4928055

>>4928018
On the other hand, she'll have to watch you die.
On the first hand, shurelia

>> No.4928269

>>4928055

That's true, but after all those years of loneliness even just a couple of years would be like bliss to Shurelia. Also how does Shurelia's aging process work? I know it's said in the Toukousphere that it's possible to change administrators so if she stepped down would she then live a normal life from where her age was frozen?

>> No.4928277

>>4928269
Unless they explained it in the Toukouspheres, I have no idea.

>> No.4928296

>>4928269
Their longevity is indeed dependent on the tower.
And if suddenly 'disconnected', the admin dies.
Whether it can be modified so she lives 'normally' and someone else takes care of shit, dunno.

>> No.4928393

>>4928296

As I said it was said in a Toukousphere that administrators can indeed be changed.

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_37

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_57

So if another origin or β-6D reyvateil appeared and assumed control Shurelia would be free of her administator responsibilities. I'm just not sure if she keeps her 'immortal' status by stepping down or not since she's still an origin.

>> No.4929268

>Well, in the end, even Lyner has the Reyvateil gene, but it simply doesn't manifest itself. I don't think he could use very strong magic even if it did, though ... Er, wait ... That would probably be for the best ... The day he managed to craft a Funbun ... Mmm ... I shouldn't underestimate Lyner.

>> No.4929425

You know, I've always wondered what the standard spell songs they sing would sound like. Like minor song, major song, boost echo, energy ball, heal, etc. It would be pretty interesting to hear what they sound like since we don't actually hear the song being sung.

>> No.4929442

>>4929425

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_3

Stubborn father is pretty awesome.

>> No.4930243

New thread at >>4930238.

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