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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

>It has been proposed that one cause of victim-blaming is the "just-world phenomenon". People who believe that the world has to be fair may find it hard or impossible to accept a situation in which a person is unfairly and badly hurt. This leads to a sense that, somehow, the victim must have surely done 'something' to deserve their fate. Another theory entails the need to protect one's own sense of invulnerability. This inspires people to believe that rape only happens to those who deserve or provoke the assault (Schneider et al., 1994). This is a way of feeling safer. If the potential victim avoids the behaviors of the past victims then they themselves will remain safe and feel less vulnerable.

>> No.4841168

In other news, "victims" invent theories to feel even more victimized and therefore, claim more attention.
Slut.

>> No.4841173

Are you implying that anon is afraid of rape?

>> No.4841177

Man I'd like to see the faces of these people when they learn about Buddhism.

>> No.4841188

>>4841177
That's a secret knowledge only you possess.

>> No.4841206

>>4841201
Because the christian god is a sadistic pervert.

>> No.4841201

This reminds me of the NHK metaphors used in the anime.

Sato blames the NHK for his problems. His Senpai blames it on conspiracies. And Misaki blamed it on God.

>> No.4841218

>>4841206
Whose isn't?

>> No.4841221

damn Sakura and her rape fantasies

>> No.4841222

>>4841218
Pretty much any god that isn't omnipotent and omnipresent.

>> No.4841251

>attempting to use logic with people who just mindlessly parrot memes

>> No.4841261

>>4841222
If it is not omnipotent, why call it a god?

Also, all the gods were assholes.

>> No.4841272

>>4841261
Gods don't have to be omnipotent. Greek gods, for example, could perfectly die and be wounded.

>> No.4841273

>>4841261
>If it is not omnipotent, why call it a god?

Because it will put a thunderbolt up your ass if you don't.

>> No.4841268

>This leads to a sense that, somehow, the victim must have surely done 'something' to deserve their fate.

"Deserve" is wrong because it has a moral dimension, but usually the victims did _cause_ whatever happened to them, one way or another. Rape, mugging, murder, earthquakes, cancer etc. bad things in this world can almost all be avoided by just avoiding the areas and situations where such things happen, things that cause them etc.

The victim didn't necessarily deserve it, but it is the victim's fault.

>> No.4841283

>>4841272
>implying Greek gods were not sadistic perverts

>> No.4841285
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>>4841261
Because the thought of an all powerful god is ridiculous. No, real gods have power proportional to the faith they receive. An omnipotent god will never be made because that would require an infinite amount of faith.

>> No.4841294

>>4841283
I was answering the omnipotent part.
I believe that the concept of gods in general includes the cruelty.

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>>4841268

I got a chuckle out of reading this. This anon is why that wiki exists.

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4841301

>implying rape isn't the fault of the woman
If women weren't so slutty they wouldn't fucking get raped in the first place. It's their fault for tempting men.

>> No.4841312

>>4841268
Yeah, and the best way to avoid bad things is not to be born.

>> No.4841314

>>4841177
Like most people, you fail to understand karma. Bad things don't happen to people because of their karma; when bad things happen to them, they get more positive karma in return. Think of it as compensation rather than punishment.

>> No.4841327

>>4841301
That's actually true. Women need to learn to look less slutty if they do not want to be raped.

>> No.4841334

>>4841327
Like wearing purdah.

>> No.4841337

Well, OP's post just goes to show... you can show people why they're wrong, and they'll still have their heads so far up their ass they can't see it anyway.

You wasted your time, OP.

>> No.4841338

>>4841312

This is true.

Of course a lot of the time the consequences of your actions will be impossible to predict with a human brain. But they are still the consequences of your actions; everything in this universe affects everything else.

And let's be honest here, if you walk up to a bear and prod it with a stick, you will get your face torn off and it's absolutely your fault. Why is getting royally plastered, dragging some negro into your room, then at the last possible second changing your mind, any different? When you behave in a blatantly stupid fashion, you completely deserve what you get.

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>>4841301
/jp/ - Saudi Arabia/General

>> No.4841346

>>4841337
>It's printed on Wikipedia, therefore it's true.

Cool independent thinking, bro.

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4841360

>>4841346
>he thinks wikipedia is written without sources!

>> No.4841388

>>4841360

Everything has a "source", idiot. Sources don't make anything true.

Wikipedia may be an acceptable authority when it comes to mating habits of woodchucks, but not on philosophical arguments on the extent of responsibility.

>> No.4841408

>>4841388
>Sources don't make anything true
I know, right? It's a shame my college professors don't agree with me. Or anyone else who I've written a paper for.

>> No.4841414

Wow, this thread is a really odd, random little knot of meanness and pseudo-intellectuality.

>> No.4841422

>>4841414
isn't it though

on one hand it's kind of fun to read, but on the other hand it makes me really, really worry about you guys

>> No.4841426

>>4841388
>Wikipedia isn't true on things that are entirely subjective!

Fixed that for you...

>> No.4841432

>>4841388
It's not philosophical, it's a psychological explanation for why people blame victims.

>> No.4841442

>>4841408

For your sake I hope you are just starting your education, other wise you have some serious problems.

All the sources in the world do not amount to a guarantee of truthfulness (except in math, but math has always been a special case). Especially when it comes to philosophical questions; you will always find a philosopher with an opposing opinion, and if you don't you can become one.

>> No.4841458

>>4841432

The debate has long since passed that point. Try to keep up.

>> No.4841462

>>4841432
>implying psychology actually is a science

>> No.4841473

>>It has been proposed

Everybody seems to have missed these key words in the OP.

This is only a possible explanation somebody has offered. Nothing more.

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>>4841462
Quick, name a psychologist other than Freud or Jung.

That's probably why you don't think it's a science. You don't know shit about it.

>> No.4841497

>>4841475
Anna Freud!

>> No.4841499

>>4841475
>confusing psychiatry, psychoanalysis and psychology
>implying you know shit about it

>> No.4841508

Nobody blames Sakura on being raped. We blame her on not doing anything against it.

>> No.4841513

Out of curiosity, for those who have posted so far in this thread, how old are you? Mention which post was yours too.

>> No.4841518

>>4841475
Everything to which scientific method doesn't applies cannot be regarded as science.

>> No.4841523

>>4841508
>We blame her on not doing anything against it.
Yeah, let's rely on a psychologically weak girl that has been tortured since her childhood to do something about it

>> No.4841528

>>4841513
20 years old, 173 cm, 70kg, Computer Engineering student, single.

This was my post : >>4841497

>> No.4841529

>>4841475
Obviously psychology is not exact science, but on the other hand, there's plenty of other ``sciencies'' out there.

>> No.4841533

BLAM-ing? Someone put a shotgun to sakura's head?

>> No.4841539

>>4841528

Moja je lebdjelica puna jegulja, Croat-kun.

I mostly wanted to know how old >>4841168 >>4841268 >>4841301 >>4841314 and >>4841338 are.

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>> No.4841573

>>4841557

Did Rider just bite off Shirou's entire genitalia?

>> No.4841581

>>4841573
Rider does love dicks

>> No.4841583

>>4841513
It's called "Anonymous" for a reason, you know.

>> No.4841599

>>4841583

So you wrote one of those posts and are a teenager?

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>>4841581

Rider loves a lot of things.

>> No.4841625

>>4841539
Old enough to not act uptight on the internet, something you apparently still have to learn?

>> No.4841624

>>4841609

moar liek Raider amirite guys

>> No.4841650

>>4841625

Another teenaged poster, I see. I have the answer to my question, now.

>> No.4841662

>>4841523
Yeah, let's, because if she don't tell anybody, seek help or do something herself, then she is consenting with the crime, which gives space to the criminal to state it was consensual!

>> No.4841674

>>4841650
I'm one year older than you are, if age truly means maturity to you (I hope you are aware it shouldn't).

>> No.4841682

>>4841513

I posted every post in this thread and I am 43, male today. Yesterday I was 13, female.

>> No.4841689

Just to clear things up: AoC is not actually from Croatia, he has something wrong with him, and this is a dubiously-on-topic troll thread. You know, in case you couldn't tell.

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4841701

Let's all just shut the fuck up and get stoned.

>> No.4841714

Type-Moon made Sakura so otaku could feel all "oh, poor her, she is not at fault for being raped", but it backfired and we hate her for being too unrealisticaly slutty. I mean, every sane human being's reaction is to run when he can't win and to fight when he can't run, even if he can't win. Sakura did neither.

>> No.4841772

>>4841513
>Out of curiosity, for those who have posted so far in this thread, how old are you? Mention which post was yours too.

The very point of anonymity is so that you would only consider the message and not the person it came from.

For what it matters, I posted >>4841268 and >>4841338. I am 29, a member of Mensa, and have a master's degree on computer science (not PhD, because I'm fucking lazy). This added information should not affect your opinion on my posts (if it does, I'm also an ancient dragon god and command you to send all your funds to my Paypal account).

>> No.4841785

>>4841772
>mensa member
so you're a moron. who cares.

>> No.4841800

>>4841785

This person has the correct idea.

All the good things at 4chan come from its anonymous and unrestricted nature. It allows me to change my opinion on everything in every thread, or even every post, and sometimes have entire conversations with myself just to see which viewpoint works the best. You can't do that sort of thing on a normal messageboard (well you can, but it looks weird).

>> No.4841810

There's nothing wrong with Sakura being a slut, but that's only because I'm somewhat pro-slut.

>> No.4841827

>>4841800
I like to sometimes answer both positively and negatively to the same questions.

>> No.4841851

No longer harboring penis worms will indeed prevent you from becoming angra mainyu.

>> No.4841853

>>4841827

One of my favorite tricks is, when I'm looking for some sort of information, give a blatantly wrong answer to myself so that somebody comes to angrily correct me.

>> No.4841863

>>4841810

Slut detected.

>> No.4841871

>>4841772
More evidence that only the dumb smart people join mensa.

>> No.4841881

>>4841800
I post contradictory things all the time. Just as whatever I think need to be said at that moment. If I had a name people would just think I was trolling.

>> No.4841904

I never samefag, but what I love to do is pretending to be one of the previous posters in a thread.

By the way, I'm >>4841513 and I'll be 14 this June.

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