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I AM THE DETECTIVE ROKKENJIMA DESERVES!!!

>>4839393
I thought we agreed that Kyrie was Batman, and Jessica was Harvey Dent.

>>4839387
We have a ton of masochists here OP. That's why Beatrice was so popular even before she was revealed to be a good guy.

She just really, really, really wanted Battler's penis.

She's got, you know, this glitter... She is an intelectual rapist, a 'logical yandere'. It makes her unique and nowadays people can go just for that.
I personally only sympathised with her when she was losing. Though a lot of hot doujin lesbian sex with Dlanor at the very least speaks for her, too.

>>4839399
>>4839393
Oh god do I want to hear this story

>>4839409
In a nutshell.....

People were struggling to come up with motives for why Kyrie and Jessica would troll like they do in episode 4. They both seemingly had nothing to gain by trolling Battler over the phone in episode 4.

There was a consensus that Kyrie was actually trying to help Battler by telling him about witchs, while Jessica was trolling him, despite being good in the past. And so the Batman analogies came to be.

I liked her because she was pretty much the only competent person on the whole island.

>>4839422
>not paying even slight attention to the corpses
Yeah, pretty competent.
But I like her anyway.

lol @ she's gone, Battler will probably revive her in the 7th episode, you can't perma off someone who's that popular. Needless to say I think Erika backfired on Ryu07, he never thought she'd be that popular. In his interviews, he said Erika wasn't really all that bad, but turned her into a psychotic bitch in EP6. Annnnnd she only got more popular

well whatever, Erika was basically an extension of Bern so hopefully we get some Yandere Bern in Ep7

>>4839449 Ange will propably revive her

fix'd

Her powers work outside the gameboard, she can (from the future point) find things that can be nonexistant on the island, because 'as far as the game board is concerned, it is safe to assume so'. It is implied that red is 'a rule', therefore a game mechanic and works this way.

Beato: [red]I can't revive Sakutarou. Sakutarou can' be revived anyhow.[/red]
Ange: I just did, your argument is invalid.

Same goes for 'This Beatrice cannot be revived'. If she finds 'her' in the future, she can effectively bring her back to the game board. So, who is looking forward to Milf Jessie?

>>4839449
So Battler being Amakusa should be able to do the same thing, amirite?

>>4839463
But isn't Beatrice Shannon?

Although hit me up for blind moe Jessica anyday.

>>4839463
>Beato: [red]I can't revive Sakutarou. Sakutarou can' be revived anyhow.[/red]
>Ange: I just did, your argument is invalid.
Or he just wasn't dead in the first place.

>She's got, you know, this glitter... She is an intelectual rapist, a 'logical yandere'. It makes her unique and nowadays people can go just for that.

Mainly this. She is what I'd be if I were placed in the middle of Rokkenjima, doing all sorts of crazy shit like taping every windows in the middle of a massive storm and getting excited when the murders begin. When she revealed that she listened to Battler sleep all night I couldn't keep this huge grin off my face.

so what the hell is Ange gonna do now that she's come to back to life? Back to Rokkenjima? Back to the gameboard?

>>4839449

I hate Erika, but I love Bern. Where do I stand?

>>4839489
She hasn't revived, Touya just made an extra chapter inside her story, it happens before going to Rokkenjima, witches can do so.

>>4839489
It's pretty damn clear that Ange's story has to be resolved somehow in E7-8 and it will have something to do with Asumu.

Well, the Kasumi battle is still horribly strange. It looks like Ange DID die there, she was shot by one of the bad guys there. So why is she alive and active?

>>4839497
well I don't know...

what if Ryu07 jumps the shark and has Bern go batshit insane in EP7 and tries to troll Battler at every turn? She'd pretty much be Erika 2.0

just because you like her indifference to everything except trolling doesn't she won't go yandere on everyone

I'm personally hoping for some Lambda vs. Bern. Because we all know her, Battler and Beatrice will crash Bern's game

>>4839509

>she was shot by Amakusa
fix'd

>>4839505
Ah sorry, it's bad arguing before actually reading the chapter.

>>4839515
It seems logical that Lambda would oppose Bern in her own game, she would take the fantasy side to even things out.

>>4839515
I am pretty sure there will be some great, awesome Lambda comeback in E7.

You know she was busy playing her '34' piece(s).

>>4839515

I actually just hate Erika for using logic bombs at every turn and being incredibly smug about it. She seems to be wielding authority that she actually doesn't have. Bern doesn't seem that smug.

>>4839535
She's just more proactive than Bern, also understand she was desperate, it was her last chance.

>>4839524

Not that she'll take it seriously. Remember, they're both just trying to kill boredom. Lambda just wants to keep the game going on as long as possible, and Bern doesn't care.

>>4839537

Of course she was more proactive. She could actually do stuff while Bern just sat and watched. Back in EP5, the most annoying thing was any time she said her stupid phrase "By XXX, this level of reasoning is possible by Erika Furudo. What do you think, everyone?" It just reeks of arrogance and self-importance.

I've thought about it a bit. Isn't being a dangerours enemy with keen intelect and and gradually turning out as a wishfully thinking, confused, hypocritical retard... kind of tsundere-ish?

>>4839540

lol killing boredom. I wonder how bored she'll be when Battler kills her

>>4839552
That was basically a critic for the usual detectives in mystery novels, arrogant and self important people that you didn't know and could do whatever they wanted inside your house, because they were the 'detective'.

>>4839552
In this fashion, 'The great detective knows'.bgm is actually about as stimulating as Happines of Marionette used to be.
Note that both are awesome.

>>4839535

hmmm, I thought she was pretty smug with Battler at the beginning of EP5 and 6. Constantly poking fun at him and being a bitch about it

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The thing is that she's appealing exactly because she was so smug in the stories.
The fact she acted so arrogantly, when combined with her total dependance on Bern for her very existence in the story (An existence in the story that, if you read the tips of EP6, can actually be doubted at the fundamental level), makes her incredibly insecure and pitiable.
And just like the contrast gap between 'tsun' and 'dere', or 'Skilled at battle' and 'naive at relationships', it makes her endearing and moe.

[spoilers]Also, chopsticks[/spoiler]

Beatrice actually got first in the poll and Erika got 3rd. The anon who posted the poll here switched them up.

>>4839810

Messed up the spoiler tag, but oh well.

Another reason she's likable is that in a whole story of ambiguous goals (eg. 'I'll deny witches but I care about Beatrice', 'I'll troll Battler but he's important to me', 'I want Battler to win but not in a boring way', 'I'm against Bern but really just in it for the lulz'), Erika is straightforward and open with her 'I'll solve the mystery and no morals or fucking sentimental complications are gonna stop me'. This was probably one of the reasons why Eva-Beatrice was liked as well, because they both have a clear goal and are prolific and ruthless in trying to attain it.

>>4839810

She has twintails. I think she was made to be tsundere.

>>4839830
moot point, she has
-twintails
-long bangs
-semi-short hair
she has three different hairstyles and the typical stupid hat.

>>4839842

>Stupid hat

True mastermind confirmed.

>>4839829
Beautiful. You have the mark of a true DETECTIVE engraved in your heart anon.

>>4839830

she's pretty yandere towards Battler in the prologue of EP6

>>4839829

oh u, Lambda isn't in this for the lulz, she has an active goal as well.

>>4839829

EVAtrice had no goal. She was just a psycho...and in a story that thrives on psychos, that's saying something.

>>4839864
>EVAtrice had no goal.
Kill everybody, receive gold, become the head.
Good goal.

>>4839862

I'm not sure what you're implying her actual goal is (Getting in Bern's skirt?), but the point is that it's deviated from the goal she was originally portrayed to us as having (Or if you think her goal hasn't changed from the start, her actions and attitudes really don't seem to suggest she cares that much now).

>>4839867

The murderer has the goal of killing everyone or showing Battler something. I don't regard EVAtrice as a good character...maybe important, but not good. She did have to kill everyone to get the gold, but did she have to go out of her way to torture everyone?

>>4839871

Her goals, from a fantasy perspective, were money and power.
The game explicitly said that Evatrice killed people because her new magic power entitled her to be able to find it fun.

>>4839871
Give a crazy peron power over life and death and he'll do the same, she made it to have fun. Of course torture wasn't necessary, but you can understand why she did so in most cases

>>4839882

Well, coming from someone who prefers Bern, even I think that's kind of cruel. Then again, I prefer mind games than outright beating the shit out of someone. Bern never really does anything but try to screw with people's heads.

>>4839868

go read the latest tip, Lambda has a coversation with Featherrine that sorta supports my theory. Lambda may pretend to not care or is in it for the lulz, but I think she's in this to change Bern

>>4839891

>Battler gets impaled
>she laughs about it

she's just as sadistic and evil as Eva, but nowhere near as chaotic

>>4839891
At least EvaB gave an instantaneous death, Bern toys with people wand leaves them completely destroyed, worse than death, like Natsuhi, she would have been better dead at that moment

>>4839891

I'm not forcing you to like her, just saying why people do.

It's not as much the difference between 'plain cruel' and 'interestingly cruel', but more, as I said, the difference between 'straightforward' and 'wtf is she up to'.
You know where you stand with characters like Evatrice and Erika, but Bern might always have another facet of her personality mysteriously tucked away to overturn your conception of her with, and that can make you wary of her.

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>>4839862
There was an exchange later that went something like:

Battler: I bet married life with you would've been so much fun I'd vomit.
Erika: Of course. I would've had you locked up in a world of pleasure, throwing your head back every night till you forgot all about Beato.
Beato: Hahaa. Little girl, you're a thousand years too early to seduce Battler.

>>4839868
>>4839899
If you put together some of Lambda's statements from different episodes, it starts to sound like it was actually her fault that Bern ended up in a logic error, and she feels guilty about it.

>>4839929
oh god, I'm gonna have the worst case of figurative blue balls until ep 6 comes out

>>4839941

Wait a moment, but wasn't it Featherine that made the logic error, which caused Bern to be promoted?
(Only read through EP6 with ATLAS here)

I want her to tie me up and rape me so hard I'll faint.

>>4839987
Erika will never tie you up and rape you so hard that you faint.

>>4840004

Because she's dead.

I'd rather rape Erika and then have Bern rape me.

>>4839929
BEATO/BATTLER/ERIKA THREESOME DEMANDED NOW

>>4839899

Change her for what reason? You make it sound that Lambda wants to turn Bern into a good girl. If Bern becomes a good girl, then I will have no more faith in R07's writing. And I already like it, so it'd be a pretty big step down.

>>4840066

more like get Bern to admit that she cares instead of being a cold hearted ice queen. And because its her fault Bern's like that in first place

>>4840073

But cares about what, exactly? If that's the goal, then it seems Lambda wants to make Bern hate her for what she did to her in the last game.

>>4840050
No one is going to listen one anon's demand.

>>4840097

I kind of want to see that, too.
For science.

>>4840087
Maybe Lambda's just trying to keep an eye on her so she can't do too much damage. She does seem to be helping Battler and Beato a lot lately.

>>4840099
Either way, there are a lot of things people want to see. Your wishes are not on the top of them.

>>4839891
And that's why Bern is the cruelest witch. She can make someone experience not only immediate physical pain, but totally destroy someone's will and create sufferings far worse than just killing.

>>4840110

She doesn't actually CAUSE physical pain, but she is responsible for physical pain being caused...if that makes sense. She went to Ange at age 6 and told her that she could see her brother if she denied Eva's love. This led to their relationship to sour and for her to find the truth behind her brother's death. In the Fantasy world, she sacrificed herself almost needlessly after having a horrible life growing up, and died horribly. In the real world, her investigations led her to eventually get shot and killed on Rokkenjima...and dying horribly still. If she denied Bern, then Eva and Ange could have had a good mother/daughter relationship, and she most likely would have been safe from the Sumaderas.

Bern didn't kill her. She was murdered/sacrificed herself because of something that Bern did. That is FAR worse than actual killing, and the best part is that Bern didn't even have to get her hands dirty.

I will never have Bern break my spirit and will to live ;_;

>>4840106

Chances are that there's a doujin circulating where this already happens.

>>4840140
But it won't get scanned....

>>4840143

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.

>>4840168
u mad, because you know it's true. Fall into despair ....uh....Bern?

>>4840184

Bernfag. The trip is part of my name. I got tired of people pretending to be me when I was just a namefag so I got a custom trip.