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4837607 No.4837607 [Reply] [Original]

Does anyone know that status of gun-control in Japan?
Some keys include:

-Whether or not you can own any sort of firearm or not
-Or if you can own fully or semi-automatic ones
-What sort of limits there are on purchasing
-Which designs are and aren't banned (Shotguns, Pistols, Assault Rifles)
-Any sort of limitations put on ammunition and cartridges

Please and thanks.

Also, what kind of gun store sells military grade 50+ caliber sniper rifles, I mean what the fuck

>> No.4837615

iirc it's no guns at all

>> No.4837617

>>4837607
gun laws in Japan are rediculously strict. Common people can't own shit. You need to be a part of a rifle club for like 2 years to get a bolt action rifle, and handguns even stricter.

>> No.4837619

You can only own sports hunting rifles or shotguns, and that's only with a license.

Stick to America, bro. We'll be having fully automatic weapons again soon.

>> No.4837622

That barrett says its sold, maybe someone ordered it and the store is just displaying

>> No.4837626

I don't know what it's like in Japan, but I have a Japanese friend who was amazed that people owned firearms in America. He spent an afternoon posing with handgun, looking at himself in the mirror, he was so amazed.

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4837627

>>4837617

>You need to be a part of a rifle club for like 2 years to get a bolt action rifle
>2 years to get a bolt action rifle

>> No.4837631

>>4837626
yeah. Its likely the only time he'll have in his life to hold a real gun.

>> No.4837633

no guns at all.

>> No.4837635

little tidbit, even if you can ear
n the rights to own a gun there, 
you have to keep it in an armory 
at your local gun range.

>> No.4837637

crazy gun control, but the criminals (mostly wannabe gangs) get them

>> No.4837640

>>4837619
source on auto weapon unban?
you best not be fucking with me

>> No.4837644

>>4837619

>We'll be having fully automatic weapons again soon.
>He doesn't know that Obama is against owning any kind of firearms, even for self defense

>> No.4837646

>>4837640
You can own fully automatic firearms right now so long as you pay a yearly tax on it.

>> No.4837647

what about korea? does everyone there have a grenade launcher in their basement incase the commies invade again?

>> No.4837650

One of you gun nuts, please justify the use of assault rifles.
You can't be _that_ bad a hunter.

>> No.4837655

>>4837646
I thought there was some other shit preventing you from easilly getting one even though the assault weapon ban expired

>> No.4837658

>>4837640
Most likely the fact that it's gonna expire and that renewing it would bring fuckload of flak on their asses.

>> No.4837662

>>4837650
cool factor?

>> No.4837664

>>4837650

Some people take their self defense very seriously

So seriously in fact that they are willing to spend the money to buy a machine that can mow down 30 people in a few seconds

>> No.4837666

>>4837650
We don't have to justify anything Jones. That is the whole point.

thread goes in /k/

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>> No.4837669

>>4837655
The assault weapon ban did not affect automatic weapons at all. All it was about was "evil" looking stuff such as... barrel shrouds. Which are a safety feature. Yeah.

>> No.4837670

>>4837650
deer learned to hold shift for focused movement

>> No.4837674

Why get muscles when you can get a gun

>> No.4837676

>>4837650
no reason besides they want it and there's no law against it

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>> No.4837680

>>4837650
No one would use an automatic for hunting
No one, ever.

Hunting is .22, .306, rifles or Compound Bow.

>> No.4837682

>>4837650
That's because you don't own weapons for hunting, you own them to protect yourself, be it from thugs or from an oppressive government.
Or simply for your own enjoyment.

>> No.4837687

>>4837666
i.e. you can't justify it and have no reason to have one other than to commit heinous crimes or to pose with it and feel like a real man.

Thread goes in /k/, I agree, but it's already here.

>>4837670
www, you win.

>> No.4837690

>>4837640

All the redneck states are a-hatin' on Obama, so it's likely that some Montana manufactorer will 'find' the money to actually challenge the supreme court on their firearms act that exempts guns made in the state from regulations

Once they win, AR15s for all!

>> No.4837691

>>4837650
First of all, define "assault rifle." Are you talking about weapons such as the AR-15? Those are widely used in competitive sports. Or do you mean automatic weapons? Those are, again, only used for recreational purposes, the only thing hit by the bullets dirt and paper. How about you justify spending a hundred dollars of a figurine of a fictional character which only serves the purpose of taking up shelf space?

>> No.4837692

This entire thread swiftly degraded into a debate about gun control in the US and the freedom that comes along with it

I'm impressed, /jp/

>> No.4837694

>>4837680
Did you somehow fusion the fudd 30-06 with .308 and call it a day?
Also who the fuck hunts more than varmint with a .22?
Plenty of calibers have plenty of uses.

>> No.4837700

If all you Americunts learned Aikido you wouldn't need a gun.

>> No.4837701

>>4837680
I still don't understand why you can't hunt with a crossbow

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>>4837691

I never thought I'd ever have to use this picture

Courtesy of /k/

>> No.4837705

>>4837701
Those are for vampires

>> No.4837707

>>4837687

Justify a reason to ban them.
Protip: Crime doesn't work. It's not incredibly difficult to convert to a fully auto, but no one uses them for crimes. Why? You can't conceal a goddamn AK.

And concealable automatic smgs? There's tons of them already on streets.
It's just stripping true Americans from their rights to pretend they're fucking Rambo at the range.

>> No.4837709

>>4837700

Please be a troll

>> No.4837710

>>4837687
Oh stop trolling Jonesy.
You know full well that the world is an ugly place and that if anything happens, you'd want the most effective way to protect yourself.
Moreover, shooting is fun as hell.

>> No.4837711

I'll honestly feel safer when I know that nobody has a gun; as opposed to getting paranoid that I'll be shot in the back by any random crazy fucktard on the street.

>> No.4837712

>>4837691
I don't own a single fig.

By "assault rifle", I'm using a catch-all to collectively refer to weapons of war and not guns used for hunting, skeet, etc, for convenience's sake. I won't quibble terminology with you. Guns meant to kill lots of people fast.

>> No.4837715

>>4837687
Typical Jew, just against firearms in the hands of regular people despite what the bill of rights clearly states without ambiguity.

>> No.4837716

>>4837701
You can. But unless you're disabled, they're only allowed during rifle season. They're also more expensive than compound bows and have a shorter range.

>> No.4837720

>>4837677
>>4837668
These are jokes, right? I mean they can't be serious ...

>> No.4837725

>>4837692
Could be worse. They could once again discuss who the best US president was.

>> No.4837726

>>4837650
They're fun to shoot and they look cool. Justify eroge to me.

>> No.4837730

>>4837720
Are YOU serious?
Those are entirely serious.

>> No.4837731

>>4837664
>they are willing to spend the money to buy a machine that can mow down 30 people in a few seconds
like a truck?

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4837733

>>4837725

Someone call?

>> No.4837735

>>4837712
Civilian versions of those weapons can be used to put food on the plate and to provide recreation, whereas in the hands of the government they are only used to kill people. Most military-esque weapons in the hands of civilians are only "used" as collectors items anyways, partially because of the mystique of being partially forbidden.

>> No.4837737

>>4837725
it's obviously james k polk so there's no need for discussion

>> No.4837741

I also love the ignoring how difficult it is to actually "mow" down people with automatics. You're better off picking your shots.

>> No.4837743

>>4837731
Hah, that's true, you can get a vehicle for cheaper than a modern automatic weapon and be more effective in causing havoc with it.

>> No.4837744

>>4837725

No discussion is even necessary. We've all agreed it was Teddy. All of the US, I mean.

>> No.4837745

>>4837677
Obviously so we can be justified in killing them later.

>> No.4837746

let me know when i can purchase an
 MP7 legally

>> No.4837747

>>4837730
I'm not even going to attempt to explain just how fucking stupid they are then. Jesus christ.

>> No.4837748

>>4837746
You will never be able to, because HK hates you, and you suck.

>> No.4837749

>>4837746
I want a MP-45 just for the hell of it.

>> No.4837750

>>4837700

I don't think any martial art teaches the ability to reflect bullets.

>> No.4837755

>>4837749
You can get the gray ultra long barreled civilian version for the price of a second hand camry.

>> No.4837756

>>4837741

One shot is generally enough to incapacitate an average person without body armor, but not kill them

And considering that most assault rifles can fire anywhere between 10-20 rounds a second while maintaining a heft magazine capacity, you can easily spray and pray into a crow and horribly injure and kill many, many people

And let's not forget the fact that bullets can pierce through bodies and hit the person behind that, and the person behind that if it's powerful enough

>> No.4837757

I like how OP can make this thread many times and you fags still bite.

>> No.4837759

>>4837750
The Boxer Rebellion would like a word with you

>> No.4837761

>>4837750
Aikido does.

>> No.4837762

>>4837730

To be fair, they're both a bit hard on the hyperbole.

You can own pre-ban fully automatic weapons. They just cost fucktons of money. You can also own them if you get a class 3 license, but that's ridiculously hard.

The second, well...
Let's just that while that MG may not have killed a single person, the 1920s was a rather bloody era for automatic weapons.

Not that I don't support repealing the automatic ban.

>> No.4837763

>>4837755
Not in California ;_;

>> No.4837766

>>4837735
Oh, please.
Don't seriously tell me people go out deer hunting with their M-16 automatic to feed their families.

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>>4837757

This was the first time I've ever made this thread

>> No.4837770

>>4837709
Well, against a gun might be more difficult, but Aikido is arguably the most powerful martial arts in Japan.

An Aikido practitioner is practically invincible, no one of any martial arts background can ever land a punch or kick on one.

Using the power of the attacker, the Aikido practitioner uses absolutely no energy to knock them down.

A fearsome martial arts it is.

>> No.4837773

>>4837756
You can't hit much on auto. You're guaranteed higher kill rates by aiming correctly.
Besides, 5.56 yaws and fragments, you'd be hard pressed to find a caliber that penetrates reliably enough to do that kind of shit consistently.

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4837775

>>4837766
You're right, they don't.

Because it's banned!

>> No.4837778

>>4837700
Cause 1337 martial arts totally helped Japan against the U.S. raepage in WWII...

>> No.4837779

>>4837770
But can Akido bisect a fully armored European knight?

>> No.4837780

>>4837756
Bullets are tiny things, and when they strike something they lose energy quickly. The only real bonus of automatic fire in the hands of a person is suppressive fire; after the first two or three bullets, nobody knows where the rest are going to go, and the chances are very high that they will not strike anybody. "One shot is generally enough to incapacitate an average person without body armor, but not kill them" is also incorrect, when you're pumped with adrenaline, such as being shot at, you probably won't even realize that you have been shot unless it is something vital. That's why there is so much emphasis placed on making those shots count and having plenty of ammunition with plenty of stopping power; otherwise, everyone would have .22lr firearms and call it a day. People have been shot in the face at close range and not only survived but didn't notice it until it was pointed out to them later.

>> No.4837782

>>4837766
Everyone and their mother has an AR. Yes you can hunt with them depending on the caliber. No people don't hunt on auto because it's pointless. The point of owning weapons is not hunting anyway.

>> No.4837783

>>4837775
They don't use those to hunt in Iraq, either.
They use them to kill other people.

The entire idea is ridiculous.

>> No.4837785

>>4837768
Anybody that can use the archive knows that you are full of shit. Go back to /k/, old /n/ mongrel.

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4837787

>>4837766

...A lot of people hunt with the AR15. It's one of the most common rifles in the US.

AR15 = Civilian m16. Same gun.

It's a wonder how much a difference a fancy name and a plastic stock makes in making a gun seem military grade, doesn't it?

>> No.4837790

>>4837779
If they're dumb enough to use their sword and have the cut deflected back at them.

>> No.4837791

>>4837787
It's black and scary and Rambo used one.

>> No.4837792

>>4837773

Whether or not you can hit shit depends on 3 things

>Where and how you are aiming the gun
>How much wind there is
>And how much you are moving and shaking the actual gun from recoil or by body movement

Those and whether or not the inside of the barrel is fucked up or not

>> No.4837794

>>4837766
They typically don't. But they can. Don't forget that deer are not only overpopulated, especially in suburban areas, but their population is growing, and the auto-accidents caused by dear are increasing. Plus, deer meat tastes good.

>> No.4837795
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4837795

/k/ommando here.

In Japan you can only own Bolt action and Pump action rifles or shotguns. And the Japanese Police WILL conduct random inspections to make sure your are storing them properly at least once a year. Guns must be kept in a locked safe and ammunition must be stored in a separate locked safe in another room.

If you're thinking of suggesting similar gun control measures for your country consider this: Japan is an Island nation very hard to access illegally. Japanese culture treats criminals like shit. And guns have been strictly controlled in Japan since a few years after firearms were introduced to the country.

pic is Arisaka Type 99 Japanese WWII battle rifle.

>> No.4837796

>>4837711
Dude even in America you have a better chance of dying from a car accident than a gun...

>> No.4837799
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4837799

>>4837790
wat

>> No.4837801

>>4837783
Iraq is basically a warzone, and does not have the same hunting opportunities as here. You can not compare firearm usage in Iraq and America.

>> No.4837805

>>4837794
You wouldn't use an assault rifle to hunt deer.
Well, >>4837787 probably would, because he's a limp-wristed faggot.
But you know what I mean.

>> No.4837808

>guns in japan
>100 replies of ASSPAINED LIBERAL FAGGOT V. INSECURE GUN NUT

Dear god, /jp/ has really gone down the shitter lately

>> No.4837809

>>4837795
Part of the Canadian army still uses Lee-Enfield No. 4 rifles.

>> No.4837810

>>4837808

>Implying /jp/ hasn't always been this way

>> No.4837813

>>4837711
Would you rather that everyone has them or only criminals? In some countries, it isn't possible to remove guns any more.

>> No.4837816

>>4837805
I've hunted with a Saiga 7.62x39. That's a civilian version of the AK-47, basically. It's also a great rifle for hunting, due to its size, reliability, and the characteristics of the round it fires (enough power to knock down a deer but not overpowered nor especially long ranged).

So yes, I do. And it outperforms dedicated "hunting" rifles, except at ranges over a hundred yards.

>> No.4837819

>>4837808
This always happens when this thread is made(and the lol Japan and drugs ones too), not really something new. Also, Americans have poor aim and weak arms ITT.

>> No.4837820

This is surprisingly interesting. Do continue.

>> No.4837822

>>4837808
it's like i am on /k/!

>> No.4837826

>>4837813
Well neither would be nice. See Britain. Not many firearms packing thugs. Massive knife-crime though. I'd rather be threatened with a knife than a firearm.

>> No.4837832

>>4837822

Actually, moot introduced a lot of new mods and ordered them to keep the shit off of /k/ now

It's working, surprisingly.
Prior to this /k/ had virtually no mods and was only above /b/ and /v/ in terms of shit

>> No.4837834

>>4837826
I'd rather have a gun were I to be threatened with a knife or with a gun.

>> No.4837838

>>4837826
Violent crime went up after Britain's firearm ban went in place. You may prefer to be threatened with a knife than a firearm, but you're also now more likely to be threatened with a knife than you were to be threatened with a firearm before the ban.

>> No.4837840

>>4837826
but what would you rather be defending yourself with?

>> No.4837841

>>4837808
It's surprisingly fun, the insecure gun nuts can't help but respond.
Those fragile egos are good for something other than gun sales after all!

>>4837822
Is /k/ really like this? You'd think everyone there would be a gun nut and therefore stuff like this would just be dismissed as trolling.

>>4837816
First intelligent response to my initial question, yay!
You win a prize.

>> No.4837843

I hunt with a muzzleloader, am I cool or what?

>> No.4837846

>>4837834
>implying i'd actually take the risk of attempting to draw a firearm on somebody who already has a weapon drawn on me

I'm not fucking rambo.

>>4837838
Where'd you get this information from?

>> No.4837849

I actually own an ""assault rifle" a L1A-1 that is a semi-auto. It makes a great Deer rifle. being 7.62X51.

>> No.4837851

>>4837832
So you had to bring your shit here. Faggot.
Also, I like how everybody is ignoring the only reasonable post here.

>> No.4837855

>>4837843
Careful boy, you can shoot down planes with that .52 cal.

>> No.4837856

>>4837843

Ever actually bag anything?

>> No.4837857

>>4837843
You are incredibly awe inspiring, good sir.

>> No.4837858

>>4837826
Tim Kreider pretty much has the same feelings actually; after the time he got mugged by knife point in Greece.
He did a pretty cool comic about it.

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4837863

>>4837851

>Calling himself the only reasonable poster
>Complaining about this thread not being BAWW WAIFUS AND TOHOU
>At the same time

>> No.4837864

>>4837856
Got an old doe from around 75 yards, that's it.

>> No.4837871

>>4837851

To be fair, I'm pretty sure this is still allowed in /k/. All that really got banned was the Obama conspiracy shit and NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS. In fact I hear calling someone a nigger on /k/ gets you banned now.

I'm glad I don't want have to put up with that on /jp/. I wouldn't know what to call Arc then.

>> No.4837873

>>4837864
Should've gathered 50 friends and fired a volley.
Guaranteed to kill a few things.

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4837879

>>4837864

>Shot a doe from 75 yards with a muzzleloader

>> No.4837885

>>4837864

You're too awesome to be on /jp/.
What the fuck are you doing here?

>> No.4837889

>>4837879
Did I mention it was at night? I got pretty damn lucky with that shot.

>> No.4837893

>>4837864
75 yards with a muzzleloader? Nice shooting!

>> No.4837894

>>4837607

>Also, what kind of gun store sells military grade 50+ caliber sniper rifles, I mean what the fuck

Its not like some gangsta drug dealer can just walk in and buy it. If you have any felonies or certain violent misdemeanors you cannot own a gun in the US. Not to mention most .50 cal rifles cost in excess of $10,000 and you would be spending $5 per round. also unconcealable.

>>4837646
Must be made before 1986 and the tax stamp is $300 a year AND most of these grandfathered full-autos are marked up 1000% IF you want a new one you have to get a Class III Federal Firearms License. Which you aren't getting its insanely expensive AND the BATF does frequent spot checks to make sure you are in the business of selling firearms, not just collecting them

>>4837711
Good luck with that.

>>4837756
>>4837780

Rounds vary greatly here's some typical muzzle energy figures from some typical rounds.

Pistols
9x19mm Parabellum 500 ft lbs.
.357 Magnum 700 ft lbs.
.44 Magnum 1,250 ft lbs.
Rifles
.30-06 Springfield 2,900 ft lbs.
5.56x45mm NATO 1,700 ft lbs.
.50 BMG 13,500 ft lbs.

>> No.4837897

>>4837889
You forgot the part with the fog and the angry bear that was about to attack you before you fired that shot.

>> No.4837904

>>4837897
Don't joke about those things man, my grandma got attacked by a bear, luckily she had her longsword with her or she never woulda made it.

I just got a liver shot, that thing stank when I cleaned it.

>> No.4837905

In Japan there are many people who believe that Japanese shooters at Olympics
are policemen or soldiers of Self-Defense Force. Some other people believe
that Japanese citizen cannot own guns and people who enjoy shooting have to
rent guns at shooting range, and some other people believes that legal
gun owners must keep guns in lockers assigned for them at shooting ranges.
So, I decided to write short introductory article about gun ownership in Japan.

In Japan, the kind of guns owned by civilian are as follows.

Air Rifle
Hand Rifle
Rifle
Air Pistol (limited to 500 people for sports shooting only)
Pistol (limited to 50 people for sport shooting only)
Shot gun

The purpose to own guns is limited to two, i.e., hunting or sports shooting.
It means we cannot own guns for defense purpose.
The procedure to own the gun is as follows.
Of course, people who use guns in their work (policemen, soldiers, etc.)
don't have to follow the following step for guns used in the job.

>> No.4837909

The terminology about 'air gun', 'air rifle' follow Japanese custom.

Participation in a lecture at nearby police station
------------------------------------------------------

This is a requisite condition for anyone who tries to own gun.
You go to the police station which is responsible for your address area, and
apply for the lecture on gun regulation for beginners. In case of Tokyo,
entire districts are divided into four blocks, and the actual place to have
the lecture is one police station in the block.
The lecture for beginner is held once in a month, I think.

The lecture starts at 9:00 in Saturday morning, and written examination
follows after lunch. To 20 questions, you have to give at least 14
correct answers. When I had this lecture, two or three people did not
pass among 32 or 33 attendance. This performance was high because usually
80 % of attendants pass the examination. After passing the examination,
a certificate is given and its copy must be submitted whenever you do some
application afterwards. The certificate is valid three years. It means,
after the valid date of the certification, you have to attend a lecture
for gun owners to get the new certificate. This time, no examination is
done.

>> No.4837910

>>4837846
I don't have the sources with me right now, but here's an interesting article with multiple sources: http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2007/01/crime-in-uk-versus-crime-in-us.html

>> No.4837922

Air rifle, hand rifle, and shot gun
-------------------------------------

Once you get the certificate of the gun regulation lecture, there are two
different paths depending on what you want to own. Note that you cannot
apply for usual rifles nor pistols at this stage. To own them, you need
further qualification.

A. Air rifle or hand rifle.

People who are not familiar with gun confuses air rifle from
'air soft gun' (or simply 'air gun') which uses plastic bullet and
whose barrel does not have rifling.
In fact, recently it was reported on TV that some members of AUM camped
near by Mt. Fuji and did some military training using 'air rifle' of
AK 47. This report was not correct. What they used must be air soft
gun shaped like AK 47 or model gun of AK 47.

Hand rifle is unique to Japan. It is actually air pistol, but long
sleeve covers the barrel, and long stock is attached to the grip.
In Japan, ownership of pistol (air or not) is restricted because of
their small size which enables covered transportation. Therefore,
hand rifle was introduced for people who plan to own air hand gun
eventually.

If you want to own air rifle or hand rifle, you can go to a gun shop
with certificate to show to clerks, determine which gun to buy, ask
clerks to write a paper which describe the detail of the gun, and name of
the shop. When you buy a gun not from a shop but from a current owner,
the same paper is needed.

You must be at least 18 years old, or, you need to be over 14
years old and have recommendatory letter from an organization which
governs all official sports organizations.

>> No.4837925

B. Shot gun.

Prior to go to gun shop, you have to take practical shooting course,
followed by examination. To apply for it, you have to submit a lot
of papers to the police, and it takes a few months until you get the
approval because you and your family who live together are examined.

After the approval, you have the course at a shooting range and pass
it (it is quite easy). Then, you go to a gun shop, determine the gun
to buy, and ask clerks to write the paper.

You need to be at least 20 years old.

After applying for any gun, usually it takes about one month until you get
permission. When you get notification from the police about permission,
you go to the police station to receive license booklet, take it to the
gun shop and receive the gun. Then within two weeks, you have to go to
the police station again with the gun to have it inspected and stumped on
the license.

>> No.4837927

>>4837922
>>4837909
>>4837905

Silly Nips, airshit isn't REAL guns.

>> No.4837938

SB - Small Bore rifle (0.22 caliber, rim-fire)
Since using of 0.22 caliber rifle (both rim-fire and center-fire) for
hunting is prohibited in Japan (probably small animals suitable as targets
of 0.22 caliber live not far from where people live), the only permitted
purpose to own it is for rifle shooting sports. The step to own Small Bore
(rim-fire) rifle is as follows.

A. Become a member of a branch of National Rifle Association of
Japan, then become a member of N.R.A.J. itself.
If you want to just enjoy air rifle, and have no interest in participating
in national wide shooting meet, to stay just as Tokyo branch's member
saves membership fee.

B. Participate in a few hour's lecture by N.R.A.J., and get certification.

C. Participate in at least two shooting meet per year before you apply for
SB.

D. Get certification of skill of shooting.
In case of shooting in Standing position, the score of criteria is
300 for S60, and 200 for S40. It is quite easy.

E. By satisfying above A,B,C,D, then you can apply for SB to N.R.A.J.
What you get if you pass the examination is recommendatory letter that
you are suitable for shooter of N.R.A.J., and have potential to become
a shooter for higher level competitions like Olympic.

F. Submit above letter as well as many other papers to the police station.
Like the case of shot gun, it takes a new months until the police
issues a permission to take shooting course in practice.

G. Take a practical shooting course at a shooting range, and get a
certification.

H. Apply for a gun to buy.

>> No.4837941

LB - Large Bore rifles (center-fire)
--------------------------------------

There are two purposes you can use LB, one is sports shooting under
control of N.R.A.J., and the other is hunting.

A. For rifle shooting as sports, the requisite to apply for it are
as follows.

a. It is over one year since you have owned a SB.

b. You have already participated in 2 shooting meet per year with SB.

You apply for recommendatory letter to N.R.A.J., and follow the similar
steps (without practice course in a shooting range) as SB.
It looks only bolt action rifles can be allowed.

B. For hunting purpose, you must have continuous 10 years' history to
have own shot gun or SB. You simply apply for a gun to the police
station.

>> No.4837950

Air pistol
------------

The requisite condition to apply for air pistol is almost the same
as SB except that certification of more skill in shooting is
required (in case of AR S60, score of over 510).

Since the number of owners of air pistol is limited up to 500,
you usually wait one year or more (it means you wait someone
fails to update the license) until you get recommendatory letter.

After getting recommendatory letter from N.R.A.J, follow the same
procedure as other kinds of guns to apply for the license.

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>>4837813
New Gun Control laws only take guns out of law abiding citizens hands. if someone is willing to rape rob and murder what makes you think they are going to hand their guns into the cops because someone made a law that says they have to?

>>4837832
Thank god for that too

>>4837838
Its so bad now they changed the way they report violent crimes. In the US and every other country violent crime statistics are made using REPORTED violent crimes. In the UK statistics are made using CONVICTIONS of Violent Offenders, resulting in an unrealistically low number.

>>4837871
Yes you get banned for saying Nigger now

Also since this IS /jp/ before anyone gets into Gun vs. Katana let me clear this up

5 foot between, gun drawn, katana drawn, Katana wins
5 foot between, gun holstered, katana sheathed, toss up
20 foot between, gun drawn, katana drawn, Gun wins
20 foot between, gun holstered, katana drawn, Katana wins
50 feet between, gun wins

>> No.4837961

Pistol
--------

To apply for pistol, you need quite excellent skill of air pistol
(in case of AP60, score of over 555) to apply for pistol.

This time, the number of people is limited to 50, but because of
so hard criteria, I heard two years ago that only 30 people owned it.


Permission for ammunition
---------------------------

Anybody can buy bullets for air rifle, hand rifle, and air pistol without
restraint. For ammunition which contains powder, you have to get
another paper from the police.
On the permission paper, based on which kind of guns you have, the kind
of ammunition gun shops can sell to the owner of guns are listed as well
as total maximum amount. This paper is valid for one year, and, if my
memory is correct, the maximum number of ammunition the police allow to
a paper is 4,000.
Because of the law, the maximum number of ammunition you can keep
at home is limited to 800, and you must keep them in a specially designed
locker which is different from gun locker.

>> No.4837969

>>4837956
Nobody in /jp/ gives a fuck about katanas except for trolling, silly goose.

>> No.4837975

>>4837969

Are you imply that genuine Nipponese Katanas can't cut through tanks?

>> No.4837977

>>4837809
Our Rangers use it, but it's not the same unit as the American counterpart. Mostly a patrolling militia.

It makes me wonder where all that .303 is coming from, when it sells for $1.50 a round.

>> No.4837984

Y'know for the amount of effort it takes for both the participant and government you'd of just thought it would of been easier to ban firearms in Japan.

>> No.4837987

>>4837969

so Katanas are used in /jp/ for the same purposes as they are in /k/? interesting. Anyway that same shit goes for knives too, the reason being its easier to hit something with a knife than with a gun. With a gun you have to aim at a point, with a knife you can slash in a wide arc.

>> No.4837994

>>4837987
I'd rather bring a gun to a knife fight than the reverse, tho.

>> No.4837996

Updating the license
----------------------

The license of gun is a booklet like passport.
Your name, photograph, address, birth date, license booklet No. and its
issue date, etc. are in the first page.
Then pages for up to 12 guns follow (so, if you own more than 12 guns,
you have several license booklets).
In the last page, there is a holder to insert the permission paper to buy
ammunition.

The license for each gun is valid three years (more correctly, until
the third birthday after you get the license).
It means, if you have three guns which you owned in three continuous years,
you have to update the license of different gun every year. If you have
three guns owned in the same year or owned in interval of multiple of three
years, you can update them in the same year. Here, 'year' means not
calendar year, but a interval between two birthdays of the owner, i.e.,
if you buy two guns, one a day before the birthday and the other one day
after the birth day, their licenses are updated in the different years.

>> No.4838015

>>4837994

If we can start at 10 paces sure. IF someones pointing a gun at your face its trivial to defend from that.

1. duck
2. move towards mugger and grab his arm and hold his forearm against your shoulder and neck
3. knee mugger in balls/stomach/stab etc.

>> No.4838025

>>4838015
Which in reality translates to:
1. Lean a bit quickly in a direction.
2. Get shot.

>> No.4838033

>>4838025

>Give him what he wants
>When he has his back turned shoot him
>All is well

>> No.4838068

To keep the license, following things must be cleared.

A. Requisite to update license.

There's no condition to update the license of air rifle, hand rifle,
and shot gun. But if you have not used them in the past three years,
license can not be updated.

To update the license of SB and LB, you have to show stump you got
at rifle shooting meets. Though one of conditions that N.R.A.J.
issues recommendatory letter for SB and LB is that owner should
participates at least two formal shooting meets per year for EACH gun,
in realty, it is not checked by the police strictly.

To update license of air-pistol or pistol, it is strictly examined
whether you participated in enough number of shooting meets, and score
at them were enough to qualify the ownership.

B. Annual gun inspection.

Usually in spring, there's a day of annual gun inspection (the date
differs with police stations). You bring not only all guns but also
a paper to report the number of times you used gun (for practice,
shooting meet, hunting) as well as the number of bullets you consumed.

C. Certification of a lecture which is valid at the time of update.

To update of the license, valid certificate of gun regulation lecture is
necessary. It means you have to attend the lecture every three years.

>> No.4838076

Others
--------

A. There are many kinds of papers which you submit to the police at
various opportunities. The following is a list of them (not all of
them are needed every time).

o Application for ownership
o Application for license update
o Application to buy ammunition
o Paper to return expired paper to buy ammunition
o Signed paper that gun shop or ex-owner agrees to sell a gun to you,
which contains detailed description of the gun
o List of your family who live with you
o Abstract of your family register
o Past 10 years' record of your address, job, crime, and guns
you ever own
o Doctor's certification that you are not a user of drugs, and
satisfies some other physical conditions.
o Certification of gun lecture (for beginners, or for owners)
o Certification of practice course at a shooting range

B. If you have some crime history, using knife or guns, you cannot
apply for gun ownership for some amount of years.
Also, if you live with dangerous people, like member of Yakuza,
it may happen application is rejected.

>> No.4838079

D. Because only one policeman works for gun ownership in each police
station, I experienced several times that he was absent for criminal
investigation. What I do when I have some business about gun ownership
is to call him in the morning to check his convenient time, then
go to the police station. So, it is often necessary to take
annual leave of a day or half just to submit papers.
I hope some reformation about this inconvenience.

E. The most popular accident caused by legal gun owner is to shoot the
colleague mistakenly at hunting.
In total, 10 to 20 accidents on legally owned guns happen every year.
N.R.A.J is proud of its record of no accident at shooting meets.

F. The number of owners of shot gun and air rifle are, if my memory is
correct, around 35,000 respectively, whereas owners of rifles are 1/10
of them.

G. Guns must be kept in your house in a specially designed locker.
One exception is pistol (not air pistol) which must be kept in a locker
of the nearby police station.

You must keep key of the locker in a secret place (your family should not
know it), and even if policemen comes to your home for inspection,
only owner should show guns.
He can reject to show guns if policemen come without prior notification.
It is to avoid an incident that guns are stolen by 'false police'.

H. To do hunting, you need another license for it.
Issuing of hunting license is under control of Governor of each
prefecture.
The first course for beginners is followed by written examination
follows like that for gun ownership. License is valid for 3 years.

I. When you apply for a gun, you specify its purpose (target shooting, or
hunting). You cannot use a gun for hunting if its purpose in the
gun's license is "target shooting".

>> No.4838202

Well, OP, have you learned what you wanted to learn?

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>>4838202

Yes.

>> No.4838232

>>4838202
Pretty sure he was trolling, bro. However this is all interesting stuff and I might use if this topic rises again.

>> No.4838237

I think there are Russian weapons dealers in most countries. You can buy AKs and stuff if you know who to ask to.

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