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>>48057230
>>48057236
The greatest minds of Gensokyo are homosexuals

>>48057230
>>48057236
The greatest minds of Gensokyo can't stop competing over its men

>>48057585
Both of those women have cute girl assistants whose job is to just look pretty and one of them would murder for the love of her life
None of them ever show even a hint of interest in men

>>48057633
Is deppresing to think that the majority of 2hus would not even be interested in some random guy.

>>48057640
Stop being 'random' then. Become the guy.
>>48057230
>>48057236
I want to put forward another candidate!

>>48057726
>Stop being 'random' then. Become the guy
If I become someone interesting, I would be rather be alone. You know, when you get everything you wanted, you suddenly stop desiring company.

But... doesn't these two look truly cute here?

>>48057824
>If I become someone interesting, I would be rather be alone.
Can't fault you for this one. However...
>You know, when you get everything you wanted, you suddenly stop desiring company.
Remember that for some people 'company' often is included in 'everything wanted', particular or not.
If all interesting people were loners, you wouldn't be seeing them cute together, after all.

>>48057876
You might be right. It is just that I always thought that intelligent people always decided to be alone, but even so I have seen that is not always the case. Do you know about James William Sidis?

>>48057898
>Do you know about James William Sidis?
Well, now I do. But when looking for geniuses that needed company of others to stay afloat, I often think of John Stuart Mill instead.

>>48058022
To keep it simple. Sidis fell in love with a girl, but that girl rejected him and he sadly died alone. Is a history that makes me wonder what went wrong with the life of someone so intelligent. I would have done so much to be as intelligent as him.

> I often think of John Stuart Mill instead.
You are free to tell me about what you know, I am listening.

>>48057236
-Was tricked by a youkai hag
-Was tricked by a vengeful spirit
-Needed the princess to point out that Junko was working with someone else
This woman isn't anywhere near comparable in intelligence or sexiness to the professor.

>>48058276
Oh my, that's one erotic strawberry.

>>48058043
John's father, James, wanted an intellectual successor for his and Bentham's philosophical thought. John was successfully taught multiple languages, arithmetics, physics, economy and astronomy before age of 20. Considered genius by early XIX century standard.
However, around age of 20, John went through mental breakdown, deeming all his effort and skill pointless, since even producing 'just' society, as his father intended, wouldn't make John personally happy. After few months, with help of his companions and poetry, John concluded that making other people happy is enough of reason to feel joy. He changed utilitarianism from hedonistic, darwinistic ethical system into more society oriented one and made contributions to contemporary philosophy of science and libertarian thought. Lived for sixty-six years, at age 45 marrying his love after 21 years of acquaintance. Life well lived, all in all. But if not for the others, it could have went much poorer.

>>48058312
Her genius manifests in many ways.

>>48058332
It sounds like a cute story, thanks.

Your genius is my wrestling buddy, dude

Invented the peak character, and then never acknowledged her existence again.
What did ZUN mean by this?

>>48058631
Can't improve on perfection.
Also, ZUN didn't want to deal with the headache of including Christianity.

>>48058276
You know, I know is a fictional franchise. But I have seen cases where intelligent people, and I mean, in IQ, fail in something else or miss things that should be easy to understand.

>>48058793
It's kind of a pattern for Eirin.
Hell, the only reason she's even on Earth was because she decided to give Kaguya the super forbidden medicine that was so forbidden that the last person who drank it is still kept prisoner in the Lunar Capital and a huge part of their society revolves around doing penance for that "crime".
But anyway, OP said "smartest", not "most intelligent", and common sense and social awareness is a big part of being "smart", so Yumemi is certainly better than Eirin in that regard.

the biggest thing is that she comes from the future. imagine all the sci fi shits she has
>handheld magnetic monopole cannon that can destroy planets

I learnt the other day that she makes a cameo appearance as the final fight on the Extra Stage of Malice Eater, a 2015 bullet hell published by Amusement Makers (the same doujin circle ZUN belonged to when he made the PC-98 games).
Seems pretty niche - not even the wiki has much information about it. Still, it's probably the closest she's ever getting to a second canonical appearance - not terribly far off from Reimu, Marisa, and Yuuka showing up in Seihou, at least.
I appreciate that, because she's preceded in the stage by the Hi-Beion from Seihou and the SMD-31-FX1 from Samidare, there's the implication that she's just harder to take down than a futuristic combat mech and an even more futuristic warplane

>>48059466
Huh, nice, I had never heard of that. How is her fight like?

>>48059770
Don't know if there are any videos of that part exclusively, but there are a few of the entire Extra Stage. This should at least go to the beginning of her specific part
https://youtu.be/YVL1cFEElu8?t=332
She even brings in Chiyuri for one attack.

What sort of professor do you think she is? Or was, I guess.

>>48063173
She still is! Just because the pretentious retards at the academia kicked her out doesn't mean her title is invalid!

>And, you kept sayin' things like "it's religion that will save the world" and stuff, prof.
>And what's wrong with that? It's the truth, isn't it?

>>48057230
Is she a time traveler or is PC98 Gensokyo in the far future?

>>48057230
If she's so smart then why isn't she the main character like Reimu and Marisa?

>>48067091
Reimu and Marisa aren't exactly the smartest. If the main character is too smart, she would immediately solve the incident and there wouldn't be any game.

>>48067129
The main characters are the smartest because they are the main characters and get paid the most.

>>48067138
Then why is Reimu poor?

>>48067151
She plays a poor character. The real Reimu is rich.

>>48067158
I don't believe it, she's not good enough at acting for that.

>>48067026
I don't think that there's any way to answer that with certainty, but given such song titles as
>A Dream Transcending Spacetime
>Sailor of Time
>Winds of Time
and that Chiyuri's title is "Resident of Fantasy That Runs Through Time", the implication would seem to be the former. Though you could just as easily argue that this just means that PC-98 still takes place in the future, and the "time" motif is just pertaining to the difference in advancement in the way that one might feasibly throw such words about when discussing contacting a stone-age tribe.

>>48067026
There's no time travel involved they're just larpers

>>48063591
Well, you do stop being a professor when you're no longer employed as a professor...
That doesn't mean she's not smarter than all of the other "great minds" at her university combined, mind you.

>>48067729
She was kicked out for a reason after all

>>48078655
What did Renko do to deserve this?

You think you can attract Yumemi with strawberry perfume?

>>48078748
She's too smart for that, you'd need to at least have real strawberries.

>>48067026
Probably from around the hifuu era considering Yumemi mentions a Grand Unified Theory being a thing and in Hifuu they mention the same thing as being recent.

>>48081701
I don't think that that necessarily implies a similar point in time, just that Hifuu takes place first, though they're probably not too far off.

If we generously assume Windows lore regarding the barrier (or at least the date of isolation of Gensokyo) applies retroactively and that Rikako has any idea what she's talking about, then her claim in her ending that the pair's technology is about 500 years ahead of her own suggest that they come from the late 2300s or the early 2400s.
Those assumptions aren't the most well-founded, but we don't have much else to go on to establish even a tentative year

Why would a professor use crosses? Is she a
B̶e̶l̶m̶o̶n̶t̶ Christian?

>>48094455
I always assumed she was one given her very positive outlook on religion.

>>48094566
Huh, thats interesting, seeing that line in retrospect seems jarring with how anti religion ZUN seems like nowadays, but then again, Hifuu is a thing that exists. Maybe the anons that said that shes a time traveler from Hifuu were onto something other than magical shrooms.
I really need to get around to playing Dimensional Dream, its the only PC98 game that Im actually interested in trying, because of Yumemi and Strawberry Crisis, but man Im so lazy to set up a PC98 emulator and get the rom... And no, this is not a reverse bait for you to spoonfeed me, I wouldnt have the time to actually play the game even if I wansnt lazy.

>>48063173
My headcanon is that she was a physics professor specializing in theoretical physics before she arrived in Gensokyo. After that, she started developing the field of thaumatology, which her peers thought was completely ridiculous.

>>48094455
picrel is Ellen's win quote against her, so make of it what you will

>>48096171
For someone with memory issues, Ellen sure is knowledgeable

>>48096248
the exchange the two of them have right before their battle is probably my favourite single bit of dialogue in any game in the series

>Oh, one last thing.
>>What?
>What's "science"?
>>It is a method of justifying the laziness of mankind.
>That can't be right! That's what sense, logic and laws are called.
>>......

>>48094712
Please do play PoDD, it's honestly a fantastic game.
Setting up the PC98s has never been easier thanks to the TH98 Experience Pack!
https://nyaa.si/view/1743332
I think one of my favorite things about PoDD is how it is all organized around the idea of dreams and wishes, something that sadly has rarely been discussed online

>>48100686
Its been ages since the last time I saw someone with your attitude on 4chan.
As I said, I dont have much time, but just because of how well meaning and how much of a nice way of approaching you had I will try to cram some of it on my day to day routine.
Youre too good for this place anon, I hope you dont become jaded like I did.

>>48101229
That PC98 pack was made by someone here in /jp/, and it has been recommended in the past to people wanting to set up the games, so it's not like I'm the only one sharing it. It's a great resource.
Thanks, and if you can do play it. PoDD can be a lot of fun, but the story also is top tier. Yumemi is a very interesting character... Reading her dialogue makes me feel like she lives in a world she hates; a world where most people are stupid, senseless and abandoned any kind of hope and dream. But she desperately clings on to the hope of finding magic; isn't that a dream? She has pursued it for all of her life: magic, a dream, the unknown. But she lives in a world without it. Can you imagine how painful that must feel? It's played a bit for a joke, but in Chiyuri's route I feel like she's genuinely devastated at her impossibility of using magic; the fact that she still fights on and even tries to bring the knowledge of magic to the academia that ridiculed her, eventually leading to her being kicked out of it. But see, even though they're a bunch of ignorants, she still tried to bring magic to them. Not only for her own satisfaction; she wanted to bring magic to the whole world, in order to save it.
So, even if life (and 4chan) makes us jaded sometimes, perhaps we still should try to bring the good things to people. Even if they reject it and make us mad, I think we can take Yumemi as an example of someone that won't give up and seeks to create a better world. Even if at the end we as individuals are unable to do it, at the end it might be worth it if we helped at least one person.
...Well, at least I think Yumemi is an incredible character. Even if she tried to destroy the world.

>>48112358
PoDD sure is a good game, ain't it? Several characters that, if you dig in throug the humorous dialogue, have interesting worldviews and wishes. Wish fulfillment type plots really aren't common as they used to be, huh? Its like even in media, people cant find the strength to convey at least a hopeful message, which is rather unfortunate since a lot of games, even modest ones, are bound to shape individuals to a degree.
That, and the game itself is a fantastically thrilling back and forth, although its not the most balanced in the world. Thankfully, if you like Yumemi, she's very good, both as the iconic, diffiicult opponent that she is, and as a character with her crosses working wonders on the AI. As a special bullet, the AI has a hard time recognising it and dealing with it, leading to higher potential of lucky fast victories.

>>48112358
The world distruction part was probably a joke

"Mystical mad scientist tsukkomi" is a hell of a combination of words

>>48114490
A mad scientist obsessed with magic, no less.

>>48118052
>>48114490
Repeated steel chairs to the head have taken their toll on the young professor, she keeps talking about "bit-coin" and a chain made from blocks?
Really, someone should stage an intervention.

Professor, look out!

Yumemi has been fired for sexual misconduct with a student, this is now a Chiyuri thread

>>48129131
>sexual misconduct with a student
What she did exactly?

>>48129131
Why can't physicists just follow social norms?

>>48131344
Something something common sense in Gensokyo.

>>48134154
But she wouldn't have been in Gensokyo at the time?

>>48134190
She went to Gensokyo, then came back and got fired, right?

>>48134253
Something like that.

>>48134190
Also, what in the everlasting fuck are those AI hands?

>>48134256
So then she left her common sense in Gensokyo.

>>48134266
That's why ZUN killed off PC-98, then.
Can't have Gensokyo with common sense, so have to do a reboot

>>48058332
"Genius," but then you look inside and it's all just aristocratic amount of employing dozens of tutors.

>>48134260
That's from a beginner who couldn't into perspective.

>>48136699
She has two pinkies!

>>48138928
That's the index finger from a wrongly cupped hand.

>>48129131
Slander made by magic deniers. to ruin her reputation (even more than it is already)

To be honest Chiyuri is the hardest character for me to understand in PoDD. All the others seem to have a defined wish, dream or aspiration but Chiyuri has very little clearly defined beyond her respect for Yumemi.

>>48148056
I think he also wishes for magic but sometimes seems to do things just for the thrill, and might also be a bit worried about leaving Yumemi unsupervised.

It’s time…

>>48158244
But professor, it's still almost a month untill December...

>>48158249
There you go with your naïveté, Chiyuri. With the Probability Space Hypervessel, *every month is December!*

>>48057230
>>48057236
>The Smartest 2hu in History vs the Smartest 2hu of Today

GIVE. ME. MORE!

I know this is a Momoyo pic, but it has a bonus Yumemi, so it counts.

>>48168866
deal

:D

Post more strawberry

>>48186463

Glasses or no glasses?

>>48186463

>>48202545
Either way is fine!

What do you think happened to her after PoDD?

>>48207082
Chiyuri's route is the last in chronological order.
She's stuck in her world since Gensokyo's Chiyuri sneaking in her Hypervessel caused an energy imbalance. She's frantically researching for a way to visit Gensokyo again.

>>48207082
Yumemi Okazaki, now age 21, was recently arrested on account of sexually assaulting Mr.Mous
The defendant claims it couldn't possibly be sexual assault as the victim gave several signs of consent, presenting used black hoisery with the sperm of the victim as evidence, as well as showing "obvious signs of infatuation for her". These signs are currently being evaluated.
A witness of the scene prior to the alleged rape, Miss Asakura, claims that Mr.Mous simply praised Miss Okazaki's choice of beverage, claiming strawberry milkshakes are his favorites as well. Other witnesses then claimed to have heard moans and other noises in the bathroom of the bar the two were currently at.
Furthermore, Miss Kotohime's investigation of the defendant's home, as well as evidence from the university she teaches at support the claim of Miss Okazaki possibly suffering from mental illness, with reports of her wishing to throw an ICBM at those disagreeing with her on the existence of magic and the Grand Unified theory.
The jury's decision hasn't come yet, but it is expected for Miss Okazaki to get 3 years in prison, with an obligation to seek therapy, and to accept the restraining order forced upon Mr.Mous.

Friend of mine made this shit.

>>48207922
Isn't she in the right here?

>>48186463

Let's not forget that she first kicked Chiyuri in PoDD

>>48186463

>>48218998
Ah~n

Best Windows and best PC98

>>48186463

>>48243488
Cute yuri

>>48243703
It's not Rikako's POV, she's watching in the corner as I bring the professor her favorite snack

>>48212559
She started giving out prostate exams without a license

>>48251275
Where’s the full image?

Have you already heard this arrange of her song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pam8uAVaN3s

I've been having strong cravings for strawberry milk recently
>>48256755
fortunate enough to have stumbled across it right after it came out. one of the best of the year

>>48256755
What's the crisis?

>>48268413
Strawberries, allegedly. They don't grow in Gensokyo and that's a problem

>>48268413
Yumemi's thread on page 10, that's the crisis.

>>48276198
A lot of threads have been on page 10 recently. Must be because people just don't dream anymore.

>>48276314
It’s because I’m out of Yumemis to give.

>>48276565
acquire more Yumemis, then

>>48276644
But all Yumemis are lesbians.

>>48276565
We're in a Yumemi recession.

I really like her theme but she's too red to the eye idk what ZUN was thinking with her color pallette

>>48279398
It's called "Sixteen colour restriction"

>>48279398
Red is the color of passion. But is Professor Strawberry the passionate one, or was ZUN feeling passionate towards her, we will never know.

>>48283688
If there's anything that Yumemi is it's definitely passionate. She's passionate about magic, you can really feel it in her theme and her lines. The professor is a great character.

Posting in the professor's thread right before the Holy Mass!

I have acquired one more Yumemi.

>>48303311
Very nice professor

>>48207082
Yumemi continued studying magic in Gensokyo, while also spreading knowledge of science and Christianity to the villagers.
Of particular note here was a young girl called Lumia, who took to the professor's teachings with great interest, and helped greatly to spread it amongst the rest of the village. Yumemi grew to be quite fond of her, calling her "a light shining brightly amongst the darkness of ignorance".

Unfortunately, the combination of scientific rationalism and a monotheistic religion that denounces all other deities and spirits as demons and false idols at best proved to be utterly fatal to Gensokyo's functioning.
Vast amounts of its inhabitants died until the Sages finally managed to get things under control in what's now only spoken off in hushed whispers as "The Great Revision".
Gensokyo and its people were saved, but it would never be the same, unrecognizable to the few people who could even remember what had come before.

Yumemi was banished, and the barrier reinforced to prevent any further temporal incursions, while almost all knowledge of her religion were destroyed, with what little remains only being fragmented details, not posing a threat any more.
For her involvement, Lumia was punished as well. Calling upon the foulest magicks the Sages could muster, she was beset by curse upon curse, transforming her into a horrid, flesh-eating monstrosity that represented everything she once stood against.
Ultimately, they realized they kinda went too far with her and ended up sealing much of her now-dreadful nature away lest she become a great threat to Gensokyo herself, but she continues to stand as a testament to what it means to cross the Sages and their vision for Gensokyo.

>>48303490
Nice story, but it isn't peer-reviewed, so it's total bunk as far as the academy is concerned.

>>48319367
Well, perhaps if the academy wasn't so close-minded, they would be able to see the truth of the matter.
Though I understand it may be hard for them to accept the truth based on just Yumemi's testimony, especially given that the assistant stayed behind, stole the name from one of Gensokyo's original inhabitants, and lived a new life as a witch, channelling her natural proclivity towards violence against the fairies, youkai, and gods for her own gain.

>>48057230
It's funny how both Yumemi and Renko, despite being scientist characters, ended up being used for critiques of scientific materialism.

>>48279067
A Strawberry Crisis, one might say.

>>48319507
Now that's a woke theory

>>48329506
I mean that's just what ZUN does
all the religious characters are used as critiques of religion as well

>>48330274
Rikako is not like that, so there could be more to it.

>>48329506
I like a lot the fanon interpretation of those 2, with Rikako being the amoral scientist and Yumemi being the moral one.

>>48057236
Who will win in a no rules melee match, Yumemi or Eirin?

>>48319367
>peer reviews
>mattering
lmao

>>48336579
Now, look, I like her all the same, and I know desperation can make people do some pretty wild things, but I don't know that I would describe abduction and human experimentation as the work of a "moral scientist", even if it is for the greater good

>>48337015
Oh I know that alright, again, its just silly fanon things, I despise a lot of fanon interpretations and dynamics people come up with, but if theres one that I like then I will take it.

>>48337015
Moral =/= in accord with your morality.

>>48337318
Sure, but I'm fairly certain that those same things are also not in accord with most people's morality, which is how "being a moral person" is usually defined

>>48337459
Fair enough.

Winter isn't good for strawberries...

>>48356726
Maybe not, but the professor is peak no matter the season

>>48057230
>PC-98
Who?

>>48368526

>>48368554
Phantasmagoria of ZUN Acknowledging the Existence of PC-98 Touhou Games

The professor is very cool!
I want to attend her course!

>>48376941
How much would it cost to register for Yumemi's courses? Would I even get anything out of them?

>>48282795
He probably made her deliberately red considering her alt palette is more varied.

Yumemi is a cute.

>>48058631
ZUN stopped using SMT as inspiration for new characters, which is a shame because I liked his view on abrahamic stuff even if it was through the lens of SMT

Yumemi has been rather negligent lately

The professor got sick and couldn't show up today

Will the professor return?

Hold still

>>48420998
What are you doing professor?

>>48421007
Ta-da~!

>>48421219
A nice cross for the Advent! Thanks professor!
I assume you'll be there for Mass this Sunday? See you then.

>>48421219
What a cool trick!

Professor should hit the gym!

>>48057230
She went to Gensokyo and in presumably a few weeks or months developed magitech that not only rivaled super powerful yokai and gods, but was very dominant among them (signalled by her position as final boss and genie-like ability to grant wishes way beyond the other characters' abilities) and developed a seemingly complete theory as to the inner workings of magic and how it fits into their grand unified theory of physics (probably as the fifth force). If her game is still canon, then she's the greatest prodigy in the verse and it's not even close. She's doing Eirin level feats in a very short amount of time, as opposed to taking a billion years like she does.

>>48376941
I like this, because I see fanart scarcely capture how powerful she looks in her in-game sprite >>48382778 . The glowing magic aura around her and the floating capelet really does it for me.

>>48268413
I think the crisis is that she probably lives in a future where natural strawberries went extinct and they're all synthetic, just like bamboo in the time period of Changeability of Strange Dream's story text.

>>48429283
I used to think she developed artificial magic before entering Gensokyo, but I guess that you're right. She must first have to have seen the real thing in order to make an imitation...
Still, most of her artificial magic is just light tricks. Maybe she made it already in her world and left it to fine-tune in Gensokyo. She looks too in love with magic during PoDD to have seen it before.

>>48057236
Acting really smug for someone who got outsmarted by Yukari Yakumo.

>>48437556
Who'd be in the Top 5 smartest 2hus? I rank it like this:
1. Yumemi because of what >>48429283 pointed out
2. Yuyuko for catching on with Yukari's plan to steal something from the moon and understanding her role in it by hearing Ran once, just looking at other people, having Youmu act as some sort of counter-intelligence, and putting on an act of being
clueless to fool all the surveilling Lunarians
3. Yukari because it's all part of her keikaku
4. Eirin because of her medicine and space travel knowledge while also knowing how to put up a scheme so the Watatsuki sisters raise Lunarian morale and they're all clear of any suspicions
5. Patchouli for knowing how to mix scientific concepts like the NASA rocket ship designs with magic by understanding both magic and science are the same? (Rikako mogged)

>>48319507
>A witch going after fairies
I can understand the other two, but why them? fairies are magical lightbubs with legs, they are to magic what bees are to pollen. a magician hunting them down would make no sense

>>48057230
>a christian in a politheistic setting where gods act identically to mafia bosses
yeah, the implications are rather uncomfortable here

>>48445157
Chiyuri probably isn't Christian, right?
I wonder if she finds the Professor's spiritual beliefs strange. She certainly seems to not take them very seriously in the endings. Would she be an avowed atheist? I think she must believe in at least something in order to be interested in magic too...
She certainly believed in the Professor's dream, at least.

>>48450439
You certainly don't need to follow someone's beliefs 100% to be interested in their theories.

>>48450439
I don't think she cares that much, she just tags along for the ride

>>48453631
Yeah, that's putting a bit TOO much thought into her silly sidekick

Quick strawberry bump before mass.

I bet you she can't build a tank or magical floating eyeball mech

>>48466029
No, but she could probably get you a craft capable of piercing through space and time, and can definitely get you a sentient ICBM

>>48437556
It's so unfair how every hag gets made fun of relentlessly except Eirin, despite the fact her most prominent appearance aside from her debut is a story about getting mindbroken by another stinky oldie.

>>48467137
Yuyuko doesn't get made fun of either. Maybe it's because neither of them can age.

>>48472508
Yuyuko gets made fun of for being a glutton.

>>48467050
Does the Probabilty Space Hypervessel have cannons? Armor?
I think it's an easy victory for the Tank Girl!

>>48472508
Makes sense no one makes fun of her. The only person Yuyuko ever lost to is herself.

>>48482413
I mean, Yumemi literally had an ICBM on hand.

>>48439879
Patchouli thought "Armstrong" was a part of the rocket. She was mostly just winging it, and it all only incidentally worked out. And even then, Eirin had to change the rocket a little to make sure it worked perfectly.
I think there are smarter 2hus to put in 5th place.

Yumemi is so cruel! She abandoned her loyal nuclear maid in a place where she can't refuel, dooming her to slow death! Bet it's just so she can have an excuse to buy and have fun with a newer model, like VIVIT-r.

>>48497360
Now that Gensokyo has nuclear energy, maybe Reimu could refule her.

>>48503881
As if Reimu would even remember. That thing's rotting in the shrine basement

>>48063173
Religious Studies

Strawberry love
Strawberry panties

>>48268413
A folding chair to the back of the head

>>48516716
That's a Chiyuri crisis, not a strawberry one