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LEZARD VALETH?!

Worst character in the entire series.

>>4784377
Oh god.

of course, because he's Shiki Tohno

>He fucks a maid.

Nope..he's still a virgin.

>>4784393
Have you seen Shannon at the beginning of EP 2.
He clearly knocked her up.

>He kills his mom
Nope, Erika did
>He kills Jessica
Nope, suicide
>He fucks a maid
Nope, virgin
>he fakes his death and kills his father
That never happened. Enjoy your creepy faggot.

>He fucks a maid.

He said in ep6 that he believes in no sex before marriage.

>>4784407
Try actually playing episode two, where Shannon specifically says that they haven't had sex yet.

>>4784410
>Nope, Erika did
>Nope, suicide
Magic scenes can't make people act against their will, so he'd kill them both

>>4784425
He didn't try to kill Jessica in the magic scene.

Not to mention, would=/= did

>>4784425
Suuuuure, they cannot.

>>4784431
redtexted
they cannot

>>4784458
you mean white texted

That's not Bern.

George x Gaap ero-scene confirmed for EP7.

How does this make you feel?

>>4784480
Gaap is really a man so, I'm ok with this

>>4784480
Nanjo and George?
Extremely likely.

Ronove mmmmotherfucker!

George=Shit Tier. He's fat and does nothing but cry.

>>4784538
He was kicking slutty-yukari's ass before her HAX kicked in.

>>4784576
That never happened.

>>4784597
you can't prove that it never happened
but you can give an alternate and EQUALLY valid theory

>>4784601
Moon-Chan killed him with a gun

>>4784604
for now this is as vallid as Gaap's teleport
devil's proof

>>4784613
He died of a gunshot.
Jessica knew about his death, either that or Shannon killed him.

>>4784604
I wonder why his clothes are all covered in blood. In a magic scene his guts were ripped, but in reality it was only a head wound. Maybe some of it is not his blood?

>>4784651
No clue. Only George's kick to Jessica's head matched up.

>>4784651

He probably was beating someone when they shot him in the head and the person bled out onto his clothes. It might have been Jessica seeing as how she died quickly after telling Battler that George was dead.

>>4784702
This actually makes a lot sense. It follows up with what Battler speculated: That someone had attacked Jessica and hadn't finished her off.

>>4784791
>>4784702
So the POINT of the magical scenes we saw was...?

Maybe he killed Gohda and Kumasawa first (because Kanon was the 9th victim), as well as some part of Kyrie's group before being killed by mastermind\Jessica\other survivor\other culprit. It was his choice, after all.

>>4784864
It might have been an attempt to bring out their true characteristics or part of it. A majority of the time, Jessica and George are in Battler's group, but at the same time, that wouldn't be enough to exclude them as a possible accomplice or mastermind.
So with these scenes, we know what their capable of if their loved ones were in danger.

He' actually a reincarnated Lezard and because his lab full of clones is right next to the gold room he kills anybody that knows too much.

>>4785218
George talking big but in the end doing jackshit, and Jessica not making an ounce of sense?
Yeah, that seems right.

>>4785487
Their choices for the letters given to them.
George willing to confront (or even kill) his family for the Shannon's sake.
Jessica willing to sacrifice herself for Kanon & family.

>>4784377
lol

What?
In the fantasy scene Jessica killed George as well.

In reality, she most likely ACTUALLY FREAKING killed him.

>>4785572
The question is >>4784651 why all the blood?

>>4785582
Well, that's just the thing. Jessica most likely got into a tuffle with him, and George didn't take to kindly towards, you know, being attacked.

>>4785619
If the blood is Jessica's, it does kinda make sense. What doesn't is why the magic scene showed us two different entry wounds. Then where and when Jessica managed to obtain a shotgun. And then there's why Jessica knew where George was.
(She could see the arbor from her window, but not as clearly with the storm.)

>>4785683
she couldn't see the arbor, much less George

>the best character in Umineko
That's not Rudolf

>>4785619
She could have just shot him and he is dead. No need to fight.
Battler didn't found any wounds on her body, other that head wound, if I remember correctly.

>>4785528
The presentation and how they act AFTER they make these decisions still make sense.
And since it masks 'who went where and who died' by DEMON TELEPORT, it just gets silly.

>>4785683
With the issues of guns and all that jazz, Jessica lives on the island. She could have easily had a gun on her, hell, judging from the bullet wound, she could even have had a PISTOL on her.

But I digress. In episode 4, Jessica could have access to a gun.

>>4785757
Jessica had access to all the guns in the study

shit, the black 8 ball is a moonfag that never gives me a definite yes

>>4785791
Black Eight Ball confirmed for troll.

>>4785771
How? The guns were already removed from his study since the 1st twilight.

>>4785807
can't prove it
ep4 1st twilight is a complete mess
>>4785796
it's a constant, AS I SEE IT, yes
the ball is a moonfag

>>4785807
The number of guns was never stated.

>>4785907
Regardless, living on the island, Jessica could have planted them somewhere, or even used a pistol. It's not unreasonable to assume that she would have the ability to use a gun.

But remember, she's killing George. Is such an action TRULY evil?

>>4785989
killing=EVIL
especially a poor virgin that just wants to bone Shannon
boning Shannon=saving Rokkenjima, you know

>>4785997
>killing=EVIL

What about in self-defense?
Really, not sure why people make Jessica even worse that she really is.

Harry Potter Harry Potter
I'm Harry Potter.

>>4786024
it's the only way to make her more interesting
if it was in self defense, she could have just said 'George-nii-san attacked me and I had to kill him, sorry'

>>4786057
See, people say that the moon-chan thing is to make Jessica interesting, but no matter how this whole thing pans out, she's either the biggest moralfag on the island, an total troll, or a really freaking crazy person.


Interesting no matter what happens, in my opinion. However, I do agree with the fact that she did try to obfuscate the truth in episode 4. But to what ends, now that is the million dollar question.

>>4786194
How about this. She knows that Shkanontrice is up to no good at the beginning of every episode, and tries to covertly work against her.

Episode 4 was her and Kyrie trying to get Battler to accept the witch so Shkanontrice would chill the fuck out.

>>4786231
Sorry, Kyrie is just too likely to be a bad guy, really
everything fits if Jessica and Kyrie work together in the plan to kill 'em all

>>4786250
There's nothing for Jessica to gain. Kyrie doesn't have a reason to get herself caught in an explosion either.

>>4786282
die with the whole Ushiromiya family for the baby thing
that's one thing deeply important in Kyrie's characterization

>>4786294
Kyrie already has Ange though. Other than that, she's convinced her first child is dead. It doesn't seem like it had any real connection to the one from 19 years ago.

>>4786313
>she's convinced her first child is dead
exactly, and who do you think she may blame after investigating some 'fishy' circumstances that will surely point at ushiromiya intervention?
basically my bet goes for: Kyrie believes that the ushiromiya family is responsible for her miscarriage
also, now that you mention ange, tell me it's NOT suspicious, she got ill the day before and recovered the next day

>>4786323
But with Ange, that shouldn't be enough to make her suicidal and abandon her child. Kyrie's hatred was towards Asumu. If she wanted anything from the Ushiromiya family, it'd probably financial support for Rudolf, or if she still does have ties; the Sumadera family.

>>4786384
we don't know if Kyrie wanted to be suicidal or not, that's the thing, also, I was saying that Asumu and the Ushiromiyas would be connected, and it wouldn't just stay as 'finnancial support', Kyrie has SEVERE issues

>>4784864
The point is George is Ronove. I mean who else would be nice enough to kill Genji, Kanon, and Shannon quick and painlessly in episode 3? And then jump out a window to move their bodies only to be killed by his Dad?

And let us not forget that in episode 2 George is staked in his stomach. Not necessarily fatal. Shannon had relatively the same kind of wound to her head that Jessica did in episode 4. And from what Battler saw for all that blood to come out when he lifted her head up she must of hit her head on something pretty hard.

>>4786513
That's true. Shannon had to be have shot by a gun though. It's impossible for just the stakes to penetrate the skull. What's unclear is whether or not Battler or Rosa searched the room thoroughly.

>>4786542
What I think happened is that Shannon's head was slammed or kicked into the corner of the bed or a table or something. A gun works too, but it wouldn't cause all that bleeding.

I'm sorry, but why are you calling Jessica Moon-chan? She's not lunatic (probably...)

>>4787094
BECAUSE DEEN

>>4787168
does the moon mean anything special in Tarot?

>>4787197
Means deception. Whole lotta deception.

>>4787197
* Lack of clarity ----- Tension ----- Doubt ----- Fantasy

* Deception ----- Psychological conflict ----- Obscured vision

* Confusion ----- Illusion ----- Fear ----- Imagination ----- Worry

* Romanticism ----- Anxiety ----- Apprehension ----- Unrealistic ideas

The moon arcana often hides what it really feels. Basically it means she's Tsundere.

>>4787197
Delusions, confusion, deception and fearful emotions.

>>4787221
so it could mean she's tsundere, crazy, a good gal bad under pressure, or delusional


No wonder you guys like BATTLER = Jessica

Umineko sure is DEEP
if you know what I mean

This is a George thread though so...

Lovers

* Love relationship ----- Union ----- Passion ----- Sexuality

* Pleasure ----- Humanism ----- Desire ----- Personal beliefs

* Individual values ----- Physical attraction ----- Connection

* Affinity ----- Bonding ----- Romance ----- Heart

Following the Marseille Tradition, also there are:

* Choice ----- Doubt ----- Difficult decision ----- Dilemma ----- Temptation

OH DESIRE!!

>>4787254
I don't follow.

>>4787263
George is innocent then

>>4787221
Strange, she seems to be open enough to Kanon. Didn't she outright confess to him?

Hardly a tsundere, in my opinion.

>>4787263
Sounds like he takes after Kinzo to me.

>>4787290
My dear Anon.... the same picture, viewed with a different perspective, can make all the dif fer rence in the world.

>>4787282

>>4787282
George and Shannon together are the lovers.

>>4787290
Well, there's that, and if we ARE taking the tarot card into consideration, the fact that she looks evil as FUCK in it.

>>4787290
Shannon calls her a tsundere (or tsundora) in EP2 though.

>>4787335
That's fine, but I doubt that's what the card makers had in mind. She's pretty damn open.
Well, she SEEMS pretty damn open.
The whole lying thing might kinda sorta be what the card is referring to, rather than the whole Shannon called her a tsundere that one time thing.

>>4787341
I think they were taking the character traits into account more than how much culprit potential they have.

Kyrie is the priestess card. The priestess is about common sense, intuition, wisdom, and introspection. These are all things that are part of Kyrie's personality it has nothing do with how she could be the culprit.

Kanon is the hanged man. The hanged man is about conformity, nonaction, waiting, and acceptance. These are all things that are part of Kanon's personality with his idea about being furniture. Nothing about being a culprit there.

>>4787371
Which is again all very well and good, but Jessica being a closed individual via being a tsundere doesn't SEEM to be part of her character.


If she is lying to everyone, like many suspect, then yeah, the card makes sense.

I'm not saying the cards represent a culprit in and of themselves. If the cards represent a character, and if that representation means one who decieves people, well, it's a mystery. Deception implies guilt.

So basically, in a nutshell. The card represents that she had a disposition. Said disposition is a disposition that culprits tend to have.

Oh. If it's true than I'll reconsider dropping this VN

>>4787414
The moon card has very wide range though it's not all about deception.. It could mean deception, but it could also mean something like worry or morality or even with the lack of clarity part it could mean that she doesn't think before she does things.

not only that, but someone postt that screenshot of kanon calling beatrice the moon

>>4787593
There is a story in martial arts about the moon. That's easy to explain away. Your just trolling.

and yes I have that pic, but no I will never help you by posting it.

FUCKING MOON-CHAN!

>>4789521
lol

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