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4765357 No.4765357 [Reply] [Original]

I don't understand Akiha's ability.

>> No.4765360

It sucks you dry and then you die.

>> No.4765361

It's called being a bitch, many women have this ability.

>> No.4765368

>>4765360
a normal women?

>> No.4765369
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4765369

Being flat chested and inferior to our goddess Arc.

>> No.4765386

Her ability is to steal heat from living things, she doesn't burn things, is the other way around. But since she steals heat, it seems as if her target were burning

>> No.4765393

What's her remuneration?

>> No.4765395

>>4765357
She looks at you and suddenly you are colded.

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>>4765393
Crash on onii-chan.

>> No.4765413

>>4765393
DFC

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4765414

So Akiha is Gengar?

Awesome

>> No.4765427

>>4765369
>our goddess Arc

Only you hold to such a shitty deity, bro.

This thread is full of the same faggot OP making a bunch of lame posts and a few other retards joining in.

Yay.

>> No.4765440

>>4765427
u mad

>> No.4765443

>>4765427
Lol. A mongrel like Akiha will always be inferior to her. Arcueid is already superior due to her lineage and blood purity. Who wants an imperfect being like Akiha?

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>>4765427
>Only you hold to such a shitty deity, bro.

Said a fan of our god's shitty servant.

>a bunch of lame posts and a few other retards joining in.

So you're retard also.

>> No.4765456

>>4765445
And then White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ was retard.

>> No.4765461

>>4765440
>>4765443
>>4765445
>>4765456

Your opinions are invalid and rejected. Thank you for droppping by!

>> No.4765480

>>4765357
Unlimited brocon works.

>> No.4765482

>>4765461
>Your opinions are invalid and rejected

No. Your opinion is invalid because you didn't answer back with an argument to prove me wrong. So no

>> No.4765500

>>4765482
There was nothing to prove wrong since your argument was invalid in the first place.

>> No.4765509

It's like a Thread with Arc fag.

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>>4765500
Our goddess forgives your stupidity.

>> No.4765522

>>4765514
She is not a goddess and would be a poor choice of a deity even if she was one.

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>>4765522
>White Ren

What a stupid servant your are. Obey her orders, damn brat!

>> No.4765547

>>4765541
But I already beat her, so yeah. There's only one Master now.

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>>4765522
>White Ren

What a stupid servant you are. Obey her orders, damn brat!

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>>4765500
Akiha is a shitty mongrel (half human, half demon). Arcueid on the other hand is the most pure being on the world, and the blueprint of the perfect woman, she is also the greatest child of the King of the Moon. I see nothing invalid with my statement, you are just butthurt because you can't deny it

>> No.4765572

>>4765552
She's an abomination which is destined to destroy the world once she reaches her flash point. She was defiled by a perverted, reincarnating priest long before the start of the story. She got ass whipped by her supposedly "mongrel" sister.

She's boring and stupid, so yeah.

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4765582

I think White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ = buttmad Luviafag also.
His butthurt is pretty similar.

>> No.4765587

>>4765582
Yeah, I'm so buttmad~ I also don't really even care about Luvia, so no.

>> No.4765589
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4765589

ITT:

>> No.4765594

>>4765589
Neko Arc is a better character than Arcueid, truth be told, and one is supposedly based on the other.

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>>4765587
>d~

You're pretty stupid too.

>>4765589
ITT:

>> No.4765613

>>4765606
Adorable~

>> No.4765622

I'd let Akiha suck me dry.

>> No.4765630

>>4765572
She is still the most perfect being on the world, and her sister only managed to defeat her with a sucker punch, otherwise it would be imposible, because no one can overpower her. And no, she is not stupid at all, she is the one with most knowledge in the entire world, she knows everything about the world and all its living creatures. And she is the richest character in Type Moon (probably after Gilgamesh). So yeah, she is still superior to Akiha in every possible way.

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>>4765552
White Len is hotter than Arc.

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>>4765589
STOP IT!!!!!!
Please.....

>> No.4765660

>>4765589
Neko Arc is more perfect than Arc.

>> No.4765668

Neko Arc is a joke just like Kohaku.

>> No.4765680

>>4765668

You wanna fight, nigga?

>> No.4765682

>>4765630
I hope you either copypasted this or made it up for fun...

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I'd let her suck my blood and allow her true self to emerge. She would violate me and in return I'd destroy her futile attempt at trying to overcome her nature. I don't care if died or not. Her pleasure is my pleasure.

Were I to become a Dead Apostle together we would terrorize the world. The princess and her trustworthy servant.

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>>4765632
Black Len is more my taste.

>> No.4765689

>>4765630
Except she's still boring and has no understanding of humanity. She also fails all her moe rolls when attempting to be ignorant moe.

Also, half-human/half-demon is better than being an ethereal creature of another world completely, as the prior maintains humanity while having the allure of the unreal and seductively powerful.

Akiha is better than some completely inhuman creature because she is near the edge of transcendence, not completely across it. Indescribably beautiful hair of the deepest shade of vermilion is awesome.

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4765731

Akiha is fatso~ so yeah.

>> No.4765734

>>4765682
This is all true, did you even read Plus Period? It explicitly states that she was taught everything about the world. For example, if you ask her who was the king of Uruk 2600BC she she should be able to give an extremely detailed explanation. And Nasu said in an interview that she has a lot of jewels and gold in her castle. The True Ancestors used to rule the world, and they all lived in Arcueid's castle, so everything they might have collected is in there

>> No.4765749

>>4765731
That's not a real picture, so no.

Arcueid will always be low-tier.

>> No.4765757
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>>4765749
>Arcueid will always be low-tier.
>Yeah, I'm so buttmad~

Your opinion are invalid and rejected. Thank you for droppping by!

>> No.4765759

>>4765630
Well that totally explains why Moon ditched her during the death of Gaia and at the time of Notes he's again in his old body but with more hax. She's a cosmic failure, only good looking because everything else on the surface is shitty except old man Zel and SUGOI.

>> No.4765764

>>4765757
>Your opinion are

のヮの

>> No.4765765

>>4765749
Your opinion is shit, and your taste as well

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>>4765765
Meaningless insults from a meaningless non-person.

>> No.4765788

>>4765759
Crimson Moon never really cared about his childrens, but he was only able to reborn because Arcueid was his host, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to come back

>> No.4765793

>>4765774
Meaningless insults from a meaningless Sion.

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>>4765793
I don't think so, criminal Sion-chan!

>> No.4765825

>>4765793
>>4765813
yuyumad.png

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White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ is Sion so yeah.

>> No.4765851

>>4765788
And then he proceeds to focus on the Ether Liners as a last fuck you to his brethen of his own brethren. Seriously, it seems Moon's plan is:
1. Wait until humans can tank Types.
2. Copy their powers
3. ????
4. PROFIT!
Type-Moon: Worst asshole in the history of the solar system.

>> No.4765863

>>4765835
Look at that slut, just begging for a cock to be shoved in her mouth.

>> No.4765873

>>4765835
You mean Jonesybama.

>> No.4765892

>>4765851
>The princess's body, is the most supreme body.
>When it became like this, isn't it the same as the king of the moon returning?!

The True Ancestors were happy after Crimson Moon was gone, but after Arcueid was born they began to hate her and fear her, because her power was pretty similar to Crimson Moon. And Crimson Moon always had a knight Arm, but that weapon is useless if the world is not all fucked up like in Notes

>> No.4765895

>>4765734
HURR IF SHE WAS SO SMART ROA COULDN'T OF TRICKED HER.

BESIDES GAIA AND ALAYA ARE DIFFERENT SHE DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT HUMANS.

>> No.4765939

>>4765895
She was tricked by Roa because she lacks experience and is too naive, she was unaware of her origins. Knowledge is not the same as experience, but you can replace experience using knowledge in some cases.

>> No.4766036

You're all fools.

Ciel is the True Goddess.

>> No.4766058

>>4766036
I don't think anyone is going to jump on that one, bro.

>> No.4766126

>>4765939
How could she be unaware if she KNOWS EVERYTHING.

>> No.4766136

>>4766036
Finally, a man with taste.

>> No.4766153

>>4766136
>Finally, a man with incredible bad taste.

>> No.4766266

>>4766126
>The princess, still naive to the world, was taught everything about it, when nothing was still known,
she woke up from her dream.

They taught her everything about the world, but they never told her who she really was because she was treated as a weapon. They never treated her as one of them in the first place.

>> No.4766335

>>4766153
You spelled "good" wrong.

And "incredibly".

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>>4766335

>> No.4766495

>They taught her everything about the world, but they never told her who she really was because she was treated as a weapon. They never treated her as one of them in the first place.
Then she wasn't taught by Gaia but the other TA's.

>> No.4766512

Arcueid only learned things relevant to her missions and then forgot them. After Roa happened, she only learned things relevant to tracking down and eliminating him, and then forgot everything.

She's just a living weapon.

>> No.4766532

>>4765788
Wait... so that means, once Gaia dies, Arcueid will no longer exist and only Crimson Moon will?

...Notes depresses me even more now.

>> No.4766623

>>4766495
Shortly after she was born (when she was still a child) she was put to sleep until she became an adult, and all her knowledge was completed the moment she woke up. It was an implanted knowledge. So yeah, you could say Gaia was the one who taught her everything, but for some reason she was unaware of her origins, and the origin of Demon Lords as well. Is a bit ironic, they wouldn't have died if they would have told her who she really was

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Arcueid is so perfect, SO PERFECT!

>> No.4766679
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SOOOOOOOOOOO PERFECT
ITS NOT FAIR, EVERYONE ELSE IS INFERIOR

>> No.4766682

>>4766679
The other half of that picture. Post it.

>> No.4766683

>>4766623
The ancestors decided she did not need useless academia.
Just enough to direct her against their enemies.

>> No.4766722

>>4766512
Her prior knowledge doesn't dissapear after she is put to sleep, it just becomes useless since she wakes up in the next era. She knows how to speak a lot of languages: German, French, Japanese and English. It only takes her a few days to learn all that because her brain capacity and knowledge is far superior than humans

>>4766683
Yeah but she knows how to use her Marble Phantasm really well, that's because she know everything about nature and its natural phenomena. For example: Alt Scbule (the move she used to kill Roa) is a pretty weird natural phenomenon that occurs very rarely in a small region of Japan

>> No.4766729

>>4766722
Yes, hence the 'useless'.
HER MP and it's applications would fall under 'useful'

>> No.4766755

>>4766722
She only knows "things." It's the difference between an academic and someone who has practical experience.

And she "forgets" everything in a way that proves it's all useless to her. Unlived experiences are just pointless, artificial memories.

Fails all her ignorance moe rolls, too.

>> No.4766768

>>4766722
> Alt Scbule (the move she used to kill Roa) is a pretty weird natural phenomenon that occurs very rarely in a small region of Japan
Wait, so you mean there really are places on earth where people can get ripped to shreds by thin air?

>> No.4766815

>>4766768
From wikipedia:

Sickle Weasels (not from anything Type-Moon but recent research)
In Japan?s Shin-Etsu, a region covering Nagano & Niigata Prefectures, the mysterious phenomenon known as kamaitachi (literally a ?sickle weasel?, imagined as an invisible creature responsible for inexplicable cuts to the skin) is blamed on a demon; according to a local superstition this misfortune visits those who unwisely step on a calendar. Along the
Nyukawa valley of the Hida mountain range, it is said that these demons attack as a trio: the first knocks you over, the second cuts you with a blade, and the third applies a balm that prevents both bleeding and pain.
In Yoshino too they say that when bitten by a sickle weasel you will fall down and discover a gaping wound, yet there is no bleeding. Recently, this phenomenon has been put down to sudden changes in air pressure ? localized vacuums generated at the center of whirlwinds ? causing the flesh to tear. This theory has become widely established and one often comes across manga depictions of twisters slicing through objects like a box cutter. But the fact is that human skin is quite tough and whirlwinds cannot produce the kind of vacuum that would be needed to split it. Furthermore, there is no record of anything other than the victim?s skin having been cut under the kind of conditions that give rise to the kamaitachi phenomenon.

Marble Phantasm push the natural laws to the extreme. So yeah, there might be a chance of a person being ripped to shreds by that natural phenomenon. Of course, without MP, the chances are slim at none

>> No.4766833

>>4765386
Kinda like dry ice.

>> No.4766837

>>4766815
Marble Phantasm can turn Arcueid's sensory experience into incarnated chains that can crush things.

It's not like it has a low threshold of acceptable output.

>> No.4766859

>>4766755
She still remembers all the useful things she has learned, she doesn't forget anything useful. For example, she still remember the words Zelretch told her when she was a child

>> No.4766892

>>4766665
>>4766679
/thread

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>>4766892

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>>4766892
>>4766912
Agreeing with yourself doesn't make a statement true.

>> No.4766940

>>4766928
You failed, try again

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ITT: White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ = Sion status: told.

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Akiha's power works by absorbing the Odic force of a person. It seems like she's absorbing heat, and it's similar to doing that because she's taking their lifeforce. Basically eating their Prana. It's actually a power that seems common to the kishu/oni/demons, as SHIKI's MEoDP work on a similar principle of fracturing off pieces of Odic force and eating them. Roa didn't realize the difference between his and Shiki's abilities because LOLMEMORIES. Or maybe he was just being an arrogant douche like Alba and Gilgamesh.

So yeah.

Also, White Ren, why you do that? And to think, I remembered you as a cool guy. Well, when it finally got to the powerlevel debate you did well, but before that you just sounded butthurt, honestly. ಠ3ಠ

>> No.4767242

>>4767143
If it helps you sleep at night amidst your crying, then feel free to believe in lies.

>>4767191
Roa didn't recognize it because they weren't seeing the same thing. Roa was seeing the vitality of a person. Shiki doesn't see anything but their conceptual end.

>SHIKI's MEoDP work on a similar principle of fracturing off pieces of Odic force and eating them.

What?

>before that you just sounded butthurt, honestly. ಠ3ಠ

It's the conceit of morons that I would actually care what they say about anything at all, much less be emotionally harmed by their lame opinions.

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>>4767242
What lies?

>> No.4767286

>>4767242
>It's the conceit of morons that I would actually care what they say about anything at all

What's wrong? Can't handle the truth. Specially when someone is backing up their opinions with canon facts. However, everything you said is merely your opinion, nothing more.

>> No.4767302

hmm now that I think on it, isn't she absorbing the entropy? that sounds kinda funky

>> No.4767303

>>4767286
Canon facts about what?'ARC I S PERFECT GODDESS WE LOVE HER' or him being Sion?

>> No.4767395

>>4767242
>>Roa didn't recognize it because they weren't seeing the same thing.

No shit. But Roa is supposed to be smarter than that, so it's easy to blame it on his reincarnation system being slow as shit on bringing him information.

>>Roa was seeing the vitality of a person. Shiki doesn't see anything but their conceptual end.
>SHIKI's MEoDP work on a similar principle of fracturing off pieces of Odic force and eating them.

Odic force = internal Prana = vitality. It's made very clear what Roa is attacking is not ones actual physical energy, but their "life force." Od in the Nasuverse is that.

>>It's the conceit of morons that I would actually care what they say about anything at all, much less be emotionally harmed by their lame opinions.

But you do care or you wouldn't have responded to that part at all, right? And furthermore, even if you really didn't care and responded defensively anyway just because, what's to say that we care about your opinions and aren't just responding anyway because we can as well? Isn't that a tad arrogant of you, to assume I care if you care that I think you're acting inappropriately? Isn't that the same kind of conceit?

And of course you aren't emotionally harmed over the Internet. That would be retarded.

>> No.4767893

>>4767395
> Odic force = internal Prana = vitality. It's made very clear what Roa is attacking is not ones actual physical energy, but their "life force." Od in the Nasuverse is that.
But it says nothing about him "eating" the life force that he cuts. What I read in Tsukihime was that all SHIKI's eyes allow him to do is see the lines of life force that lie throughout a person's body, just as Shiki can see the lines of death. When SHIKI cuts a line of life force, he's destroying the energy, and if he does that enough it will kill the person. With Shiki, however, the cut instantly causes the localized "death" of whatever he cut, which usually equates to whatever was cut cleanly splitting along the line of death; when he stabs a point, that destroys the very existence of the object. The main practical difference between their two abilities is that there are no equivalent "points" of life as there are points of death, and I believe SHIKI can't see lines on inanimate objects either.

Did Nasu write anything later that contradicted what he said about SHIKI's mystic eyes in Tsukihime?

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>>4767893

...Oh shit. I think I may have mispoken. See, there is information that says SHIKI's eyes work off the same principle as Akiha's Origami (same place that says Roa was wrong and it's actually SHIKI's ability), so I guess I was confused. In the original Tsukihime you're definitely correct on every account, and such a trait is never mentioned.

The only source that could potentially contradict this is the manga, which is overseen by Nasu and is canon, and it's pretty much the stepping stone for the remake in terms of retconning and making everyone more awesome (Ciel uses Magecraft, Shiki kills spells, SHIKI goes Kurenai Sekishu) except unfortunately the maids. Regarding Roa/SHIKI, his MEoDP can now cut shit up and cause physical damage, but otherwise I don't think Nasu changed them.

In other words, I think it's safer to say you're correct. Sorry for my screw up.

>> No.4768739 [DELETED] 

>>4765357
ghost bump www

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>>4765357
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>> No.4769566

>>4767395
>Isn't that the same kind of conceit?

No, because I don't even really care what anyone thinks. The responses are just sometimes interesting, and so is potentially frustrating all the Arcfags and "BUTTHURTSSLFKS" responders.

Also, SHIKI doesn't have eyes of anything. His only powers are Immortality and Fusion, plus the fact that he's a half-demonic monster with good strength. Roa's vampiric eyes which he develops siphon off knowledge he gains from bonding with SHIKI/Shiki to make pseudo eyes of death/vitality elimination, at least in the game. Manga is just weird. Roa's pseudo eyes kill the vitality, or life source, of a living creature. This life source can recover, as Shiki does recover even after being cut.

>> No.4770417

>>4769566

What the hell are you even talking about? Roa didn't make shit on his own, and that's pretty explicit. SHIKI got them after Makihisa "killed" him, similarly to Shiki, but, again, the process is more similar to Akiha's ability than anything due to his nature as a demon-blooded freak. Roa thought he got them from "dying" so many times, and it indeed fits his "Nasulosophy," since his entire existence was based upon using people and stealing their "lives" to extend his own, polluting hosts and in general being an excellent example of a vampire who lives by draining others, but it most certainly was not his own power. Otherwise you really didn't say anything that hadn't already been stated.

>> No.4770522

>>4770417
Roa has extensive knowledge of magic and also possesses vampiric mystic eyes, which nearly all of them have. SHIKI never has the ability to see anything like lines of vitality or death in the path without Roa active as anything more than a terrible voice in his head. All he can do is control his blood, steal the lives of others, and regenerate/remain alive after extensive damage to himself. That comes from his Tohno bloodline powers, Immortality and Fusion. Akiha's bloodline ability is Plunder, i.e. utterly consuming a person, right down to their very existence.

Roa develops mystic eyes in Arc/Ciel route precisely because he's linked to Shiki. He can leech what Shiki has due to SHIKI stealing half his life, but what he's actually seeing is only what he understands: the lifeforce (vitality) of living creatures. When Shiki shows him that he can cut inanimate things as well, Roa goes completely crazy and doesn't understand how it could possibly work.

Roa's ability isn't to drain the lives of others, but rather to overwrite them with his own soul and memories. The problem is that there is a collision during this process, in which Roa and the host merge, thereby polluting the next transition to the next host. His soul is degraded by the time Tsukihime occurs, as he himself will eventually degrade into nothingness, just like Nero will when the chaos consumes his intelligence. Since vampirism is a disease of the soul, anyone he overwrites will be a vampire.

>> No.4770909

>>4770522
>>Roa has extensive knowledge of magic

Extensive knowledge that he hadn't particularly remembered, apparently, or he'd have just reduced Shiki to dust with a skyscraper-sized lightning bolt or his Reality Marble.

>>steal the lives of others,

I think this is where that guy got confused above. SHIKI used his version of the MEoDP to steal Shiki's life. Indeed, such a power works under a similar principle as Plunder. Akiha used a Tohno ability called "Shikigami Execution" or something to give Shiki her life, IIRC.

>>Roa develops mystic eyes in Arc/Ciel route precisely because he's linked to Shiki.

The only thing Roa got out of this was being able to influence Shiki, like he did when he got him to kill Arcueid, and eventually transfer himself to Shiki when SHIKI died.

>>Roa's ability isn't to drain the lives of others, but rather to overwrite them with his own soul and memories.

Durrrrrrrrrrrr. I said that, polluting hosts and all. When I said "draining people's life" I was also referring to him using the "outdated" Dead Apostle method of taking over entire towns by using the Dead, devouring tons of people all at once.

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I like TypeMoon threads, its always high tier.
Everything else like a mahjong or asian sluts - meh

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