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>>47603861
WAKE UP

>>47602483
>zorkmids
Elona Fractions wen

what are the best foods to eat to increase stats? will any cooked and herbed food work?

>>47608914
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Potential#Attribute_Experience
Herbed food,breakfast from pets,(blessed)potions of potentials and large picnic basquets will contribute to that.

>>47609072
yeah but I want to know if there is a best corpse to eat apparently little sisters and quicklings but I mean others.

>>47609211
Eating raw corpses is ill adviced,sure it's good if you're starting up,but you'll get better results with cooked food,as for which corpses to eat your best bet is a ranch,i'll go to the grain now...
putit/red putits for charisma xp,lame horses(or any horse) for con,rabbits for speed and rabbit tail drops(for luck training),i know there's a table on the wiki with more info but it eludes me atm.

>>47609211
Nevermind,i found it:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food#Main_statistic_and_skill_training

>>47609247
>i know there's a table on the wiki with more info but it eludes me atm
Here you go:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food/Technical
I'll throw this in too, since it's relevant:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Breed_power

>>47609363
>>47609247
alright so there wasn't a "best" food kind of table. Though I suppose maybe hardcoded.

>>47609466
As you've figured out, there is no best food. All food groups give the same total stat xp divided differently, and the herb bit outweighs that by far. Just don't eat trash that only exists to fill the belly like junk food and you'll be fine.

what the fuck are pet training tickets and how do i use them?

just recently re-installed elonaplus and these things are dropping like crazy but i cant even find anything about it on the wiki.

they look like skil tickets but blue

>>47610172
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#2.24

>>47610344
how do i use it tho

>>47610377
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#2.24:_detailed_changelog
>Giving it to a pet whose character level is at or below the ticket's item level will allow them to spend it in town and train themselves once.

>>47602483
Anyone doing a TCG run?

>>47610172
>what the fuck are pet training tickets and how do i use them?
late game you can just give those to your low level shopkeeper you've had since the start of the game to save on bronze coins, bring them into town so they use them

Otherwise, they're Junk Make fodder or inequivalent exchange padding. The Dirty Water, broken vase, and dead fish will serve you better than mere scraps of paper.

Does anyone still have the unga bunga op image? With the cave man doing the funny pose and having no gf to smash rocks with?

>>47619461

Can I change allies portraits in Elin?

>>47622533
Duh, what do you think?

>>47622802
How do I change it?

>>47622814
Interact with your pet and change appearance

>>47622868
I'm on 22.38 and that doesn't seem to be an option. Guess I'll have to wait for EA.

>>47622814
The "p" key leads to powers some may consider... unnatural.

>>47620933
>HOLY BOULDER

How many pounds of elea flesh have you eaten today, anon?

>>47627426
none.

i have large picnic baskets, full of carefully engineered processed food that builds up body and mind to be real strong as Eyth intended, why sully the gut with inferior tripe?

>>47627426
10 trillion billion

Killed a Big Daddy in Elin today through having it vomit its guts out.

>>47636692
Good to know alcohol is still a viable weapon in Elin

>>47636705
It wasn't easy though. I cornered him by moving him around while he was asleep and placed walls and a Training Dummy in front of him to prevent him from just going straight at me and just one-shot me. Once he got distracted by Cute Fairy's tentacle summons, it was a cycle of ale and vomit afterwards.

I was only level 15 during this.

>>47636716
Did you get some XP from that?

>>47636731
Yes. And some Godly-tier gear

>>47636705
It kinda still is in Elona+ if you use Liquid Manipulation with cursed alcohol/milk to make entire screens of mobs puke their own organs out, and so is more of a panic button than anything else. Though Violent Garden + Anaphylaxis will do the mass bloody puking + starvation just as well without needing to use items.

Cursed drinks will still slap a boss mob with Starving! and the debuffs that come with it, so it is worth using, especially if you manage to give it anorexia - feed it cursed/rotten/Danger! food from range and it's going to have a very bad time.

>>47637135
Doesn't it penalize your karma for doing that?

>>47636731
XP from killing monsters is a Plus innovation and did not exist in vanilla or any of the jap-only forks.

>>47636692
>puking in a diving helmet
Imagine.

>>47637148
For a mob that was hostile to begin with? Nope. You're likely thinking about the sex.

Speaking of sex, you can play as a succubus in Elin right?

>>47643999
yes

>>47644628
Can (you) weaponize sex in-game?

>>47644648
Kinda? I fucked a neutral NPC to death once but I don't think you could use that against enemies

>>47644648
IDK. Does planting dream parasites in people and raping them as they sleep count?

Since sex costs stamina to do, you can kill someone through overwork, but it's not an actual combat strategy or anything.

What I do with my big character/strive to reach with an alt:
Get a pet with pickpocket, mining, fishing, gene engineer, Analysis to mine for materials (specifically saps of yggdrasil and angel's tears) and craft pots of potential.
Get good with perform so I can puchase speed uppers in south tyris' music ticket shop. This can be expanded later with life/mana/luck food.
Dominate stray kitten and hand em over to the dog cop for luck potentials and training.
Herb every food I eat and share it with pets.

This IIRC covers all the stat potentials/gains

>stuck with outdated Elin because I missed kickstarter
>tried E+ but already pampered by Elin's controls
It's over.

>>47645464
Old. When was the last time you played, ^ years ago?

Use large picnic baskets, which are trivial to make and restore all potentials, even speed and luck.

Destiny dice trains luck when used.

>>47645464
Life and speed can be bought with AP. This entire affair is a massive roundabout when simpler and far faster methods are available. The only things I'd do on that list are magic fruits and herbed food.

>>47646273
C'mon anon, only 2 months and it releases on steam. We're nearly there

>>47646584
Will we make it bros?

>>47646584
>2 months
It's over

niggers?

>>47652080
Tongued my anus

>>47602483
Are Nukes back in Elin? I tried an old demo and I can't find one

>>47654264
not yet, but planned

>>47655184
>>47654264

source:
https://automaton-media.com/articles/interviewsjp/elona-elin-20240827-307911/

>・核爆弾は登場しますか。

> noa氏：こちらも早期アクセス以降に登場を予定しています。

Kill yourself seth tertiaries

Didn't see anyone link the results to the automaton QnA so here it is:
rentry dot co slash nbozcqpp

>>47655216
two posts above you?

>>47655275
lol of course it gets posted as I format the post

I like Mani. How much Mani is in Elin?

>>47655400
Usual god stuff, a lore book, and a questline with what looks to be his mortal self that will grant the spell writer npc as a resident.

>>47655360
Why is a rentry link blocked?

>>47646496
Picnic baskets makes me full and disable the chance to eat a herbed herb right after.

Destiny dice is fine but Luck is somewhat invisible to me so I didn't even think about it.

Also I'm actively playing. maybe the question should be "When did I start?". I'm too old. I trained so much The knowledge i have is so solid I'd break instead of bending.

>>47646543
and it has a cap. when I get there I'll swap to music tickets

>>47661355
You eat the herbed food and then use the baskets in preparation for next time. But feel free to do things the long and hard way. Even if one insisted on flipping it around, several hours of pot for fusion crafting or fishing pass quickly as opposed to the long effort of farming, but you do you.

>>47661372
There is no cap on AP life and speed post game. Leold will happily raise them to 2000.

Am I fucked?
Started up the game in my storage house but it said the map was corrupted.
I ended up in my home with no spells, skills, or pcc.
It doesn't seem like I can learn any new ones either.
Is there a way to fix or prevent this?
Custom GX +2.23

>>47664081
You gotta load a backup unfortunately

>>47662112
Right. I keep restarting the game because post game doesn't interest me.

I was also not aware the fact that picnic baskets do not care for your hunger.

Huh, that's cool

How big, in number of tiles, is the overworld map of north tyris?

>>47669190
I wonder if there's any way to control their mutations

>>47666269
As an alternative to herbed food, consider the Travelling skill. Every time it procs it's free skill experience to you and everyone in your party, and your pets gain materials to collect too. All you have to do is travel for a while on the world map then stop at your house or a town.

As a bonus, Travelling exercises Speed.

I'm playing oomsest and I forgot to pick up my monster balls for gene machine quest. Just finished raping my souvenir salesman about a hundred times to take my gold back, a prostitute character is pretty comfy, no need to sweat spending money as you can always just repossess your money afterwards .

Some things never change...

(Hard gays are just as annoying in Elin. I forgot to get them wet so it was my fault.)

>>47673282
What about the AIDS?

>>47675973
You buy blessed healing pots and energy drink from the prostitute guild, you chug three or four, suck on a soda and get back to it.

>>47655200
>How deeply will players be involved in the story of "Elin"? I had the impression that the story of "Elona" progressed in a way that had little to do with the player.
>Noa:
"Elin" has a home-based story and a main quest-based story, and the latter is similar to "Elona" in that the player works behind the scenes. In the home-based story, the player is intimately involved in the story.
Will he do it justice?

>>47681350
>Will he do it justice?
The home-based story is pretty fun so far, so that's probably safe but I've really no idea for the main story
If it somehow ends with canon state of Elona that would be pretty meh but I think there was possible war mechanic mentioned in the interview so maybe the canon timeline can change

>>47682461
With the reveal that Corgon's story will have multiple possible endings, I think it's a given that timelines have diverged at this point.

Most of the canon stuff we have is more than a decade out of date, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were retcons here and there not just because of the backer content, but also as the setting is built upon.

Its also important to remember that only 1/4 of the world is open right now, south tyris, mayroon and zanan are barred off right now, but the terrain is done. You can see it if you get a treasure map right by the borders.

>>47683030
Sweet, I'd like to visit Mayroon.

>>47681350
In my experience, part of the home-based story in Elin is you are actually pioneering and building Vernis. Also, a lot if not all of the zones that you see in original Elona is available in Elin, including the dungeons. Although a lot of the orignal Elona dungeons (like the Puppy cave) are closed at the moment in the beta, they will become accessible later on.

Also, while it is still in beta in Steam it already has mod support, and I can only imagine the possibility of adding Elona storyline in Elin.

>>47684787
unlike the Puppy Cave I mean, since that's the only one that exists.

There has been a recent discovery in Elin. When you have a material hammer, lets say like Cashmere or Gold, and you use it on a seed of a plant, that plant and its future seeds will inherit the trait of the material you infused it on (Beauty for Cashmere, Rarity for Gold).

Some guy decided to add the Beauty trait to a mahogany seed by turning it into cashmere material when it originally only had the Rarity trait. Now all his mahogany seeds and wood have both the Beauty and Rarity trait, making crafts and creations from these more expensive than regular mahogany. And considering that his seed levels are around 50+ already, their levels of rarity and beauty even increased further.

>>47683030
>With the reveal that Corgon's story will have multiple possible endings
Oh, I missed this, that's pretty rad

New Project Update:

Greetings, Adventurers!

On the 20th of this month, we entered Phase 2 of the beta test, and today I’d like to share some of the upcoming development plans.

In August, we made significant changes to the crafting system. Materials now come with traits like [Rare] and [Cute], which will be carried over to the items crafted from them. This change was something we’ve been wanting to implement to expand the crafting system in the future, and we’re pleased to have achieved it during the beta. For details on all updates made in August, please refer to the release log on Ylvapedia.

Now, I’d like to give you a brief overview of the updates we’re planning to prioritize before Early Access (EA).

Features we aim to prioritize before EA:
>Early game balance adjustments.
>Refinements to the crafting system and the addition of new traits.
>Enhancement and expansion of the container system.
>Adjustments and additions to the guides and in-game help for Nerun and Lutz.
>Completion of behavior settings for existing monsters and NPCs that were left unfinished.
>Improvements to the pet enhancement feature.
>Start of Loytel’s debt repayment.

Features we hope to implement if time allows before EA
>Introduction of living weapons.
>Addition of the introduction to Mani (Backer Wish) home series storyline.
>Addition of Backer Quests (Ultimate Curry Quest, Fairy Quest).
>Adding unique features to story-related NPCs, like the Kettle’s duplication shop (e.g., tool enhancement, equipment enhancement, creation of upgradeable light sources similar to Terraria’s cellphone). Even if implemented, only a portion of these features may make it into EA.

>>47687102
Work on the tentacle Jure questline still hasn't started, right? Or did I somehow miss it

>The ability to play panties is currently intentional.

>>47689946
Yes, they are an instrument right now

>>47689872
not yet

>>47683030
Oh I thought we saw all there is to see, is the overworld much bigger than the demo showed?

Fucking hell Noa give Elin an actual soundtrack please

>>47694523
No, the free music is cool and VIP.

>>47690199
How do you play a panty?

>>47689872
Oh they're actually doing it?

>>47694523
After having played One Way Heroics for so long, I am a believer in royalty-free music. Just gotta pick the right tracks.

>>47702713
Honestly I'm just a bit tired of hearing Elona's BGM being reused again. I wish he would replace the overworld theme at least

>>47702935
just replace it yourself, pretty sure you can change music anywhere with a gramophone

>>47703167
Can gramaphones change music in an area permanently now?

>>47702670
very carefully

>>47702698
Yes, we reached all kickstarter goals

Are there really no recipes for craftable metal weapons/armor in Elin? I spent like 3 hours grinding mining for nothing...

>>47703877
No and it is intended that way (for now). You are meant to get metal gear from dungeons. But there is a way. If you can make a metal woodcutter's axe in the Tinker's Table using an ingot, then, dismantle the woodcutter's axe with a hammer, the possible resulting byproduct should be a stone version of the metal you used. You can then use that metal-stone in a Mason's Table to craft a metal weapon/girdle/breastplate.

Also, mining is important if you want to upgrade your tools to those with greater hardness like meteorite or adamantium. You won't be able to mine higher tier ores or dismantle those of a higher material without a decent mining level. Otherwise, you will be stuck with granite for a while until you can get diarite, then progress to metals, then to meteorite and other materials.

Also, with mining, you can get Earth Crystal that you will need to make Breaking Powder which you can use to extract decent mods from guns, bows, or canes. Or clean up decent guns/bows/canes that have 4 or more slots which you can then modify to make it OP.

>>47704024
To also add, bulk making woodcutter's axe and all other basic crafting is good because it has the potential to help you unlock other recipes for crafting. Also, crafting is the skill check necessary to dismantle equipment and other items that have a hardness that is higher than the hammer you have.

>>47704024
Wow, that's pretty next level. I'll give it a shot, thank you.

>>47704493
For example, if you slot a rifle or railgun with at least 31 (or 41 levels in case of railgun) of Fast Reload mod, you essentially do not need to reload anymore, which if given to a pet that doesn't use ammo, will make it so that your pet can shoot endlessly without need for ammo. Now, if you give this gun to a silver bell, you essentially have a personal moving gun turret.

What variant is your favorite?

> I want to raise my affinity with an adventurer to recruit her.
> She reveals that she likes flowers.
> I think that's romantic *and* really RP-appropriate for my goal (to raise my affinity with her), so I go get her a bunch.

>>47708280
> She thanks me for the flowers and then proceeds to start eating them all.
> Cute.
> And still romantic! (I think.)

do these games have lewd mods

>>47708292
Should've dosed those flowers with "perfume" for extra love

>>47704024
>You are meant to get metal gear from dungeons.
Metal Gear?

>>47709421
Are there even mechs in the game?

>>47708767
the lewdest thing you can do in Elin is to prostitute yourself or hire a prostitute.

In Elona+ you can do that, plus have sex with your pets or rape someone.

These are all text-based with no visual however. And these aren't mods. But there are those who changed the sprite of all mobs to monster girls.

>>47709421
I was referring to Metal equipment. They are technically not craftable right now.

>>47710154
DESU it's a bugbear. Remember when it was all "people are having sex openly in the streets" when it's just a two frame walk cycle with fully clothed sprites? It's nothing even remotely approaching nsfw, and yet the nonsense spreads.

Three fiddy says the succubus nuns become the next overblown thing. "They are raping children in the asylum!"

Elin is in Unity though, right?
How soon will we have an Elin+ variant? I don't know how easily moddable unity games are, but I could see this game in particular getting very lewd. Especially with the nip modders.

>>47712099
>Unity
shit,i wont be able to run that on my potato

>>47712099
>elin+
I doubt we will ever get it
>don't know how moddable unity is
quite a bit, we already have a few mods in the workshop

Happy Miromi Day!

>>47712099
>>47712281
I doubt there will be any actual total overhaul big tent variants, and instead there will be a huge ecosystem of smaller mods that people will make their own modlists from. The accessibility of unity compared to hsp as well as the ease of steam workshop means that there will be a lot more modders and ability for people to choose what they want.

The circumstances that allowed + to dominate the English community don't exist any more, and that's a good thing because it means more player choice in how they tailor their game instead of one guy trying to use his monopoly to cram everything from crickets to bdamans down people's throats.

>>47712099
>I don't know how easily moddable unity games are
Significantly easier than HSP. There are multiple Unity decompilers out there, and they produce actual normal code instead of placeholder text hell. Not to mention that C# is an order of magnitude better than HSP as a programming language; local variables exist, '=' isn't both assignment and equivalence, etc.

>>47710154
I don't remember the ability to rape someone in Elona+, what exactly are you referring to?

>>47714903
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Sleep#Elona+
>It's also possible, through the use of the "Squeeze" special action, to begin "forced sleep sharing" while sleepy and on a double bed (any bed with a higher quality than the sleep sheep itself). The event plays out the same as if it was a natural occurrence. However, should you initiate forced sleep sharing with a pet whose relationship is lower than "Fellow", your relationship with that pet will worsen, regardless of whether or not the pet reaches their limit. The options presented during forced sleep sharing generally give servant/master points in exchange for impress points.

>>47712099
Elin+ won't be necessary due to how easier it is to modify compared to Elona+. I can just see some people make their own versions of "Elin+" by cramming together or making as much mods as they want to the game. I'm a Citizen level in the kickstarter and when I just got the game last August, I'm surprised that the game already has mods available in the workshop.

>>47714950
Can this be added to Elin?

>>47716236

Be a succubus and slip someone a dream bug.

>>47715865
Mhm. The nips look to be a lot more fastidious about providing EN support this time around: e.g. The wiki is mostly built in JP, but changes are usually mirrored within a day or two. Regardless of how shitty the translation is, + was the only fork to even try for literal years. There's a truckload of Elona variants that were never translated and are JP only.

Not to mention the chinks are already in the game; while most of their stuff is on CN mod sites like 3DM their stuff is being reposted to the workshop. They already have a pretty comprehensive trainer mod up, because of course chinks and cheating go in hand.

Long story short: too open, too much competition, huge amount of content once the ball gets rolling, and TL support out the gate. + probably isn't going to happen, and for reasons that are good for us as players.

Hopefully this time someone will make a proper H-mod with custom animations

>>47716827
You can thank ChatGPT and other AI translation apps for that. Ever since Noa showed support for it and other EN-only players expressed how accurate it was in relaying the message and intent, it encouraged even those from JP and CN to start sharing what they make since they don't have to bother translating what they added. Even Google Translate, the original go-to for machine translation is already using AI as well through Gemini and has been fairly accurate.

>>47716236
The closest thing to that in Elin is throwing alcohol at someone (it doesn't immediately cause agro anyway), then asking them to have a night with you.

>throwing a hormone drug at a pet turns them to female
Finally, Kumiromi's fairy will finally realize what it was meant to be

>>47708767
If you are insane enough to slog through HSP coding, you can make your own lewd mods for Elona (probably Custom GX). As an example, it is possible to use the feature that plays animations while mining to also play sex animations while doing the normally completely non-pornographic prostitution action. But its a huge pain in the ass because HSP is horrible and even syntax errors often go unnoticed by the compiler.

>>47712099
I don't think Ano will make an Elin Plus since he is an overworked salaryman who seems to dedicate all his free time to Elona Plus.

>>47602483
Anyone have any tips? I plan on 'making a gene' and starting 'new game plus', but I don't know what items I should bring with me, spellbooks, etc., advice?

>>47721135
A soul thread of your wife or favorite character

>>47721229
What?

>>47712397
>The circumstances that allowed + to dominate the English community don't exist any more, and that's a good thing because it means more player choice in how they tailor their game instead of one guy trying to use his monopoly to cram everything from crickets to bdamans down people's throats.

And even then he mostly failed since CGX exists and you can and should turn off shit like attacks and spells eating stamina and the fuck stupid 100 platinum cap and the combo hit system that helps the mobs and not you 98% of the time and sandbagged mobs not letting you train skills when you hit them (punching bags don't exist in real life, don'tcha know) and the curtain call shit that punishes people for grinding in a game that expects you to grind.

I mean, who even does the cringey ear cleaning fetish shit nowadays?

>>47721135
I'll be honest,most of the stuff i would suggest would be highly subjective,but the core of the stuff you'll want would be blessed potions of potential,large picnic baskets, evolution hearts and that's a VERY stripped down list.

>>47721419
I assume he means a soul spindle.

>>47722337
Yeah that's what I meant

>>47721135

Trismagisti for throwable spammable AoEs that scale nicely

Coffins of liches, dragons, and dead-eyes so you get strong undead to act as semi-disposable minions and meat shields. Get the Cemetery key from the Lumiest graveyard, it's guaranteed to show up there and you'll want it if you're going to use spooks at all

Figurines can't be inherited, but bio printers can, so use them to get some figurines to apply Deceive to your spooks so they get Control Magic and won't kill you and each other with their spells and breath attacks

Some tricked-out living weapons, for obvious reasons

A BBQ set treated with flying or inferior material scrolls to be lightweight so you can cook food with no rank cap right away without having to steal one from a Party Time! quest

An altar or two with flying scrolls used on them so they're not so fucking heavy, lets you offer corpses to your god right away for that sweet favour

A nice big stack of devil fragments and/or easy to decode ancient books to get a stockpile of Abyss Power right away so the Aurtehom book isn't useless when you visit the Truce Ground and nab it

Big huge stacks of consumables, herbs, and food, for obvious reasons

Monster balls filled with pets that you want

Rods of wishing, heal, mana

Scrolls of witchcraft, gain attribute, wonder, harvest

Gemstone tablets for money

>>47719886
What happens if you throw it to kumiromi?

>>47722337
>>47723673
>>47724061
NTA
Soul Spindle, I never knew this existed, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
A lightweight BBQ set, using inferior scrolls, GENIUS, it's so simple, yet I never thought of it.
I'm also considering doing New Game Plus, but I don't know when, I have all the things I want to bring, yet I don't know at what point in my play through is a good point to start over, any advice?

Happy Sister Day!

Is marriage in Elin yet?

>>47730678
Not yet, but it's part of what's to be released before EA I think.

>>47727168
Gods can't be summoned in Elin yet

>>47727168
>changing perfection
Blasphemy

>>47727168
Nothing. As per canon the gods have transcended beyond physical forms and can appear as anything they like, they just choose their "base" appearances out of inertia (because that's what they looked like before apotheosis) and/or to be objects of worship for people. It's a "form you are comfortable with" situation.

Went through the trouble of teaching pets hydro fang in order to guard break bosses, when all you really need is 4 or 5 regular ol’ skull swords

In Elin are there diamond, dragon scale material hammers? I hit up a lot of shrines and didn't find any yet.

>>47730918
I want to give him my mystery meat

>>47731807
I began finding them at about level 400 of the void.

>>47733777
christ, I barely can do void level 10

Noa pls implement being able to invite a god to your home

>>47737219
You can summon in the gods with debug console. They have unique PCCs but otherwise aren't very fleshed out and act like any other NPC.

>>47737329
They better be fully implemented in full release

>>47728246
>A lightweight BBQ set, using inferior scrolls, GENIUS, it's so simple, yet I never thought of it.
Paper is the lightest material you can get with inferior material scrolls, and it reduces the item's weight by 90% of "normal". Highly useful for furniture items you may want to drag around with you like happy beds, musical instruments, and the aforementioned BBQ set, though you'll want to apply fireproofing to them afterwards for obvious reasons.

Inferior scrolls can also turn furniture raw (mostly useful for permanently getting rid of them if you have no other way) and equipment (for stat gains), too. Stock up.

>I'm also considering doing New Game Plus, but I don't know when, I have all the things I want to bring, yet I don't know at what point in my play through is a good point to start over, any advice?

Remember that you get to pass on your character's ENTIRE inventory (with exceptions natch) so fill it up with anything that is useful. At best, you can sell it off, at worst you'll be glad you brought it along.

Also if you want to Soul Spindle any pets, do so.

What does this 5 mean?
What does Hit do?

>>47742969
It's your "hit chance". On top of considering things like your skill with the weapon type and other factors like Two Hand/Dual Wield, it gives you that much of a boost so you don't miss when you attack an enemy with that weapon.

>>47743512
Well, to clarify, you *can* still miss and you probably will if the enemy has a massive amount of DV. I just mean that like, it's supposed to reduce your chances of missing by some amount. A lot more noticeable against weaker mobs.

I don’t like having to manually move my character next to an enemy to melee them so I’m switching to mage. A “move towards nearest enemy and melee” hotkey would be a nice

>>47602483
Is that girl with purple drill hair an actual character from Elona? If yes, can you fug her? If not give sauce.

>>47745333
So, shadow step?

>>47745333
Or just switch to melee or throwing. Or better yet, catch a silver bell and give it something to throw or shoot with.

>>47745340
Yes

>>47745340
Ain't that just lulwy's god pet?

So, is there any way to stop my necro dragons from killing me now that the necro remodel is useless?

>>47741392
Why did she kill Cirno?

Is Loss mode in Elin?

How much is Elin going to cost on release?

>>47749954
Not announced yet, but it's unlikely that it will be cheaper then the cheapest kickstarter tier, so at least 2000 yen (which is only ~14 $/€ right now because the exchange rate has dropped a lot)

So probably $15 to $20, I guess.

>>47748297
What about the fugs?

>>47749625
Loss mode is a plus innovation, but there is indeed a permadeath setting.

>>47749954
20 USD.

>>47702670
It's a g-string

>>47750060
You can if you install plus

>>47748901
Get a figurine and use Necro Remodel on your dragon coffin. It'll have Control Magic.

Is martial arts good in Elin or is it gonna need mod support to make it viable?

>>47752280
No reason to use martial arts when the god weapons are ridiculously strong. No way to compete with effects like doubling your life or luck, or a weapon that scales off casting and doubles your mana, or life and mana steal for your entire faction..

>>47752390
Eh, you can give god weapons to your pets and you still get faction bonuses

>>47752390
Are god weapons easy to acquire?

>>47752419
Stuff like double life, earthquake invoke, double mana, line aoe, etc are not faction bonuses. You actually have to personally equip the item to get them.

No way for martial arts to compete with those effects.

>>47752390
>>47752528
I hate that level of power creep. Maybe fist magic (ki) should be a skill? There's no way the skill as is is ever competing with the big boys.

>>47755701
Not saying Noa should add it to the game necessarily, but it could be a fun skill to mess with in a modded playthrough. Kind of like how Warmage was the ultimate Monk in Plus.

>>47755701
It would be fairly trivial to mod in claws, nunchucks or whatever that scale off martial arts and tactics. Relevant skill is not strictly tied to weapon type now; there's a gunlance that's a long sword that runs off gun and marksmanship, and any artifact weapon has a small chance to generate with "it is wielded by the power of the force" which makes it run off casting and magic device.

>>47751759
Thanks, in the meantime grabbed Elona+ Custom-GX. That Black Angel standing portrait in OP image is already included or is a fan resource that needs to be modded in?

At some point, I'm going to remake this bastard in Elin in Loss Mode. Unfortunately, I lost his save file because my laptop broke and couldn't recover shit.
>this was back in 2017
Time sure fucking flies

>>47758296
Think you need to put it in yourself, it's not hard though

>>47752453
It's not so much hard as it is that they're just very time-consuming and somewhat timegated. You need to pray and slowly level up your "Faith", which dictates how much "Favor" you can have. At certain checkpoints (100% Favor at 15 Faith, 100% Favor at 30 Faith, etc.), you get rewards. For the weapons, it's at 30 Faith. You can spam Favor pretty easily especially if you stockpile the preferred offering, but Faith takes a minute.

>>47755701
I don't disagree that they're powerful af, but I wouldn't say they're so much "powercreep-y" as they are currently the ceiling of power (somewhat). We'll see how things go when living weapons are implemented, but to assuage you somewhat, it's not like you can have every god's weapon and be ultra-strong. For the most part, you'll have to stick to one god to get the most out of their weapon (because of faction bonuses). If I followed Opatos and got his weapon and then swapped to another god, the *best* benefits from the Earth Hammer are actually removed (since they're faction bonuses). To that end, I think Noa's done an okay job with ensuring that no one runs around with 10 god weapons for them and their party, but rather, you only get maybe 1-2 that maybe especially fit your playstyle (that you can run 1 as your main god weapon and 1 with its non-faction effects). For the most part, without faction bonuses, you can usually get randarts that are stronger if you dive deep enough into the Void.

>>47760166
>You need to pray
You can level it up by giving offerings at max favor too though so I don't think it would be that time consuming with some of the gods

>>47760243
That's true. I forgot.

Kumiromi's probably the fastest. With a sickle you can literally never run out of seeds. Not even in your own farms, but like, in the wilderness tiles lol. Then Ehekatl because literally anything -> fertilizer -> soil corpse -> bait. Jure's... crim bread I guess lol. Not too bad but takes a bit to set up a crim farm. And Lulwy's just any booze from brewery barrels.

>>47760283
For Jure, at least in alpha I just picked up all the trash npcs created like empty bottles, cans etc. and offered that.

>>47760166
There is no Preach equivalent in Elin, right?
Where you "perform" a prayer with your party that counts as performance but uses, and trains, your faith?

>>47760410
So I've never played E+ (vanilla player here lol, but I'm also not an E+ hater btw), but from reading about it on the Elona Wiki, there *is* a Preach equivalent.

Praying's the same as in Elona (full heal, but when you get a certain feat (Model Follower), it now extends to all your party members too (they pray with you and its mainly to ensure everyone prays at least once a day). Yep, trains Faith. Doesn't count as performance, but it's important because each god has certain attributes and abilities that scale with Faith.

So eventually, for example, you could be completely immune to fire/ice/lightning damage with Itzpalt.

>>47760410
To add with what >>47760590 said, praying in Elin also doesn't use up any accumulated piety you gained from offering. So you can just pray without any worry of losing any piety you accumulated. In fact, praying everyday is encouraged as it raises Faith. Conducting offerings, even while piety is at 100% also increases Faith skill exp. Easiest to level and train Faith is to start with Kumiromi as just encountering a field of pasture or silver grass in a field and equipping a sickle yields tens if not over a hundred seeds.

Also, new patch out for Elin
>removed the 5-traits limit for cooking
>Derphy now treats current Karma standing as opposite from the rest of the world
>You can now view hunger/fatigue of residents and pets by just hovering your mouse over them
>Drugs have been recategorized as drinks, to remove any further confusion, sleeping pills renamed into sedatives
>Toggle for refrigerators to only receive perishables has been added for automatic sorting purposes
>Receiving bills and other packages in your home initiates a notification

There are other updates and bug fixes that are a lot less important but noa hinted the inclusion of isolated islands to be part of the world and being able to travel to them. Also, he encouraged players to inform him of any bugs and suggestions to include in base game before early access at November 1

>>47761783
>Derphy now treats current Karma standing as opposite from the rest of the world
Will you get attacked on sight in Derphy then with max karma or what?

>>47761823
Derphy doesnt have guards still

>>47761823
They just curse at you and throw rocks.

>>47760166
Arguably a bunch of them are still best in slot even without the faction effects. Opatos hammer, ring of void, elemental staff are all still amazing. Wind bow and Winchester premium don't even lose any power.

I personally prefer Kogitsunemaru because it has a big downside which completely changes your playstyle and makes it incompatible with a good number of the other god artifacts. I'd be happy if all of them were this defining instead of straight power boosts you tack on.

>decide to try Elin
>cast a spell
>Screen flashes white for a split second
I found no option to disable this, is that flash normal?

>>47757606
>claws, nunchucks
These ruin the monk fantasy in every game to have ever existed... well they're fine in FF1 and Elona Plus because they're just training wheels before your hands toughen up.

>>47766302
no... What version did you try?

>>47767680

>>47767766
I got it from this site, if its an issue with the pirated version then i will gladly purchase it once its out on steam

https://koyso.com/game/723

>>47770306
>Steam
does that mean i will need an internet connection to always play it or will that only be to get updates?

Any Steam Deck users here? I'm in need for some input configs for Elona+

>>47773915
My three wives

>>47773915
Do you have the sauce or is it AI?

>>47774421
It's this one
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120475952

I haven't played Elona+ since the update that added river. Where is the comfy place to put your house in?

how do i activate time stop ammo?

>>47775847
The same way you swap to any other ammo type, A.

what creatures grant the traveling gene

>>47776194
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Easy_Gene_Engineering
>Putit

>>47774867
I guess I should try living near Port Kapul to enjoy boat fishing.

>>47777456
Doesn't houses changes the tile they're set in?

>>47777558
I mean putting my house near Port Kapul to access the sea map faster.

>>47770316
Depends on how Steamworks is integrated. Many indie games don't bother with the (trivially crackable) login check. Those that do, require you to connect the Steam client to the internet every once in a while.

Any way to fix this or its just my shitty video card?

Anyone know any games that feel similar to Elona? I don't necessarily mean a roguelike but more of the same forms of autism

>>47779941
Autism in what way? japanese autism or just Roguelike autism?

>>47779441
I don't experience this. Might be a compatibility issue with some of the graphical settings or a possible conflict in the settings set in-game and whatever default/general settings that you applied for all of your games in the PC (try checking the application in your PC that modifies graphic settings)

>>47779941
I think you can try eraTohoTW or eraMegaten for japanese autism porn game. EraTohoTW is a sandbox era games where you date touhou. EraMegaten is an RPG. You can see some information about them in the /egg/ thread on /jp/.

>>47770591

>exp up
what does this mean

>>47780236
"Yes"

I'm fond of roguelikes but Elona has something beyond it that I can never get over. Something about its aesthetic maybe, but even though it has literal prostitution I think of it in an innocent light because of whatever it is.

The closest I've felt to what I'm failing to explain is Tales of Immortal, but not nearly as much if that makes any sense.

>>47782122
I don't think text porn is really what I'm looking for, but the ridiculous meme-tier way Elona conceptualizes whores is probably at least part of the aesthetic.

I'm really struggling to think of any words that fit right. It's extremely vague and it might just be tism, but figured if someone else could relate they'd be here.

>>47782927
EraTohoTW is a sandbox dating game with Touhou characters. EraMegaten is a Megaten fan games that's a good RPG. The player have a lot of freedom to do whatever they want kind of like Elona in these game.

>>47782747
That skill will level up thrice as fast, from any source. Generally its best use is to save up a bunch of debris of that skill, wait for its day, then eat them all for a nice bunch of points (and Memorization too). Make sure you increase that skill's potential first or you're going to feel pretty dumb.

>>47782927
>the ridiculous meme-tier way Elona conceptualizes whores is probably at least part of the aesthetic.
Whoring yourself out is a very good way to get the NPC's money and a high relationship value, even!

>>47782927
Try Hengband and its variants if you want more japanese roguelike autism, might not be as much as Elona but it is pretty fun

>>47783187
>Make sure you increase that skill's potential first or you're going to feel pretty dumb.
oh...
fug

>>47782927
>tales of immortal
Oh this looks fun let's check out the reviews
>mixed
Oh...

first time trying this, which "version" is more developed, polished and has more content? upon reading the rentry omake just looks like a junkier vanilla

>>47786124
Elona Plus GX, hands down. All the benefits and content of Plus without having the stupid bullshit like platinum caps, chain combo hitting and attacks and spells costing stamina be mandatory.

>>47785101
>>mixed
>Oh...
what's that supposed to mean?

>>47788768
Meant it's probably shit

>>47788768
There was some drama with the dev and it got review bombed by hordes of disgruntled chinks.

>>47789071
What kind of drama?

>>47789071
>There was some drama with the dev and it got review bombed by hordes of disgruntled chinks.
The last time I saw that happen, Steam rolled back the game's reviews by a couple days to undo it. Maybe they'll do the same here.

>57 days and 10 hours until EA
How do I cope bros

I was getting to the point of affording rods of wishes so I was picking on the wiki when I noticed that OOMSEST has a featreset wish, and some classes start with seven feats, and my class starts with only three. I tried to change my class at the cyber dome but no extra feats. Not having my extra feats took the wind out of my sails a bit, but on the other hand a charisma pure is a pretty good for a transitory gene stallion for my second character. Also, for optimal play, this prostitute playstyle forces you to live inside 2x2 grid, whoring to nearby resurrected shopkeepers and grinding the guild quest over and over which is objectively horribly boring. Also, my bellfriend has been fine after he got some ruby equipment but this quickling retard needs to be resurrected after every dungeon dive.

is it possible to play oomsest without omake_overhaul_English? the discord download link is dead and the easy install edition crashes every time I enter the dungeon

Elin retail steam keys are out and sent to backer emails, although they can't be played, you can claim it now.

Also the DLC code is internal to the game, it has to be activated when the game launches.

kek i think my queen just got murdered by guards

>>47793163
One of them must have drank alcohol and smacked the other in drunken fury

Like a microcosm of a party time quest

Fun fact: there's a piano that makes your audience drunk when you play it: https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Gould%27s_Piano

Is RAGNAROK in Elin yet?

>fuck around with elona on and off for years but never stick to a run
>finally clear act 1 with a warrior and a putit that i raised from scratch
i'll never ignore herbed food again. also, is it viable to fight with rods and potions as your main strategy?

>>47803283
>also, is it viable to fight with rods and potions as your main strategy?
It is, if you pump Magic Device and Alchemy up really high so they are very strong.

But if you're going to do that, you may as well invest in some coffin of necromancy undead minions (more Alchemy = higher levels. Anatomy contributes too but Alchemy is more deserving of your plat) and plenty of Abyss Power to summon the Evil Guardians with (their levels = Literacy + Magic Device). Also consider making some trismagitstuses as they also like having high Magic Device.

>>47804271
thanks for letting me know. though i dunno if i'll be messing with necromancy

>>47803283
The main obstacle to a rod/potion run is mostly the tedium. While dupli-cane allows you to use stamina in place of charges for your attack rod at a 50% damage penalty, you can't conjure potions out of thin air the way mobs do. A lot of your time will be spent fill/drawing charge and getting materials to make sulfuric acid and harmful potions in the pot for fusion. All that extra time spent grinding logistics for this playstyle could be spent on actually adventuring if you were, say, a fighter or wizard. It's a self-imposed challenge for no real benefit.

>>47804994
>It's a self-imposed challenge for no real benefit.
To be fair, he asked if it was viable, not grindy..:v

You are correct about it being tedious, though, he'd be better off with undead spooks being the workhorse that handles most fights while reserving Guardians and Unitdeads for bosses and brown pants moments.

>>47804479
Necromancy is the little black dress that goes well with just about any character build and requires vastly less investment than pets do (you can still do both of course). It only cares about two skills, one of which your main strategy uses anyway, so it's not like you'll feel like you're wasting platinum.

Just make sure you pick up the coffins if your spooks "die" so they don't get lost or destroyed, if you are not using CGX with its tweak that recollects them once defeated or remanded. You really should be using CGX if you're not already, by the way.

>one shotted by mages every time
what do

>give in to the urge and play elona for the first time in years
>little girl drinks the Vernis well and I get a wish on the very first day

>>47812119
One-shot them first

>>47812119
fix your resists. if you're playing cgx, use the res uppers that you get in the mail. beyond that, use this list to find out which corpses you should be eating
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food#Corpses_granting_positive_effects_when_eaten

>>47818328
There's also this:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Food/Technical

Whats the lewdest game?
Can I import mobile sprite& portraits to it?

>>47828818
Elin, it has actual nudity in the form of nude paintings of a blonde woman worth thousands of orens. And an NPC that literally rapes everyone.

>>47828818
>>47829164
You're not wrong in either of those statements, but it also helps if you clarify a bit. These "shock statements" are like Sseth's video where they... aren't wrong per se, but give the wrong impression to an outsider. And then everyone on Steam is asking like, "Is this game as crazy and nuts as Elona with abortions and all that?!" (Which, for example, was mis-translated and is an alien akin to a chestburster, not pregnancy.) Because there's more to it than just the, "Oh you can ride little girls and there's a town [Derphy] where there's literal prostitutes everywhere whoring themselves out." Sure, it's not wrong again, but... really? There's so much else to the game and so much more depth than just these shallow shocking things that are misconstrued when explained to an outsider.

And regarding the NPC "that literally rapes everyone", it's a succubus named "mother" who teleports to you when you sleep and rapes you. You, or any other NPC, just sleep through it and the most you get is dialogue.

The game really isn't all that lewd.

guards in palmia wont stop throwing salt solutions at my winged snail, is there a way to prevent this?

>>47831174
Don't bring snail to certain cities like Palmia or Port Kapul. And its not guards who are doing that. It's janitors.

>>47831402
I was watching a yt playthrough of a guy an he had a snail but whenever entered palmia-port kapul nothing would happen, is there some gene engineering i can perform on it to stop this

>>47829958
I wonder which game has the most mechanics around sex similar to era games

>>47829164
"Bewitching Rhianna" and "Bewitching Lanniere" are hardly nudes in the sense of the word anyone might expect. Everything is completely pixelated, the paintings are about as titillating as a rock and even if they weren't are in classical artistic nude poses.

>>47831492
Did he have like 1000+ speed or something? Or just kill the cleaners before they could throw salt? Only other possibility I can think of is that it wasn't actually a snail.

The quests to kill a specific type of enemy no longer have a time limit.

>>47834285
Yeah, but that was a pretty old update a really long time ago.

>>47829958
>The game really isn't all that lewd.
....Yet

i wanna play this game for the first time, should i wait for the new game release? what's the current newbie meta? game looks fun as fuck and i want to wed a loli

>>47837082
>should i wait for the new game release?
it's gonna be a while before elin catches up to elona cgx in terms of content. you might as well start playing cgx now
>what's the current newbie meta?
there's a lot of shit you can do in this game and there is no "correct" way to play the game. that said, here's some "first hour in the game" pointers.
>making money and finding useful stuff
do a few safe jobs in town or go on looting runs in the puppy cave to get started. scrolls, rods, spellbooks, potions, and body parts are what will make you money without weighing you down. once you identify an item, you will always recognize it and sell it at full value in the future
>survival
dimensional move and hypnotism are good feats for avoiding or disabling dangerous enemies. rods and scrolls of teleportation will save your fucking life and you should always have some. work on your resistances. you will fucking die if your resistances are shit. run the fuck away from wizards of elea. they can and will stunlock you to death with their spells unless you have good nerve resistance
>getting stronger
earn platinum by clearing doing jobs in town and clearing dungeons. invest in the skills you're using. the easiest way to raise your stat growths is to get a high quality bed and use inferior material scrolls to make it lightweight enough to carry

>>47837082
almost forgot
>and i want to wed a loli
you can get one for free as soon as you go to the first town

I can barely eat once every two days. Would be nice if there was some disease/mutation/artifact that makes your satiety run out quicker.

November can't come soon enough.

Just making sure, accuracy penalty only matters to dual-wielding and riding right? I'm clarifying before I turn make my shotgun weigh 200 with cursed flying scrolls

>>47842474
Accuracy loss from increasing weight is the weapon's base accuracy, which applies to all attacks made with the weapon. Additional penalties come after that.

Boosting your weapon damage isn't that simple.

>>47838767
in the past, you could go in a shelter and summon monsters until you got a hungry demon, then let it make you hungry whenever you needed it. hungry demons are nerfed now so i don't know how effective it is these days

The Elona guide in the pastebin is extremely out of date. What is the guide on getting Elona+ and the CustomGX addon.

>>47843844
use the cgx github link in the op. everything you need is explained there

You've opened the book and we came

>>47839415
When in November is the early access coming out?

>>47853971
Nov 1

What makes you choose certain pets? Their spells, special actions, bitflags, or you just like their sprite?

>>47854994
How fun the pet is. Note that I consider part time worker and last dancers fun.

>>47854994
sprite

>>47854994
i chose a putit because i wanted to see how hard it would be to turn them into a worthy ally. it took a lot of work but he was on par with my character by the end of act 1

>>47859611
putit is classic, but if you want something even harder try wing snail

>>47865802
Kill yourself OrcTaku faggot