/jp/ - Otaku Culture

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

You plan to keep these things going until the thing gets localized?

>>4764255

Sounds like a plan to me.

Did anyone ever upload a lossy AT3 hymnos album yet?

>>4764255

Or until people lose interest. There's also no point having posts staggered all over the 15 pages when it can be condensed into one thread.

>>4764264

Not as far as I'm aware but it's not that difficult or time consuming to convert the lossless files yourself.

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Mir is the best AT girl.

Nobody would care about AT had it not been for the DFC.

Fuck,when will these devs ever learn to put more DFC in our games ?

>>4764728
But I thought that Misha looked better in adult form.

>>4764264
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/152045089/Ar+Tonelico?tab=summary
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/107031021/Ar+Tonelico+OST%2FConcert?tab=summary

At some point there was a combined torrent, but I can't find it for the life of me.

Wait, here it is. I'll start seeding it again too.

http://tracker.gamemp3s.net/webui/download?id=cce13feeb6f6c07122ff5e320841b450fb743cb8

>>4764728
I, for one, was sold on the music. You can get DFC anywhere.

>>4764724
look at those pig disgusting fatsacks on her chest

As much as I am looking forward to AT3, the lack of Mir as a heroine means it is automatically inferior to AT2. Gust should just cave into fan demands and make AT4 with Mir as the main heroine.

>>4764788
Not having played 3 yet, I can say with all confidence that, if it is nearly as good as the first two, they should make AT4.

>>4764728
I prefer the first AT as it has delicious Adult Misha.

Tilia route inc

More jRPGs should offer satisfying endings like the Ar Tonelico series.

>>4764814
Tilia is certainly delicious, and she will be my first target when playing AT3. But she lacks the evil-moe and damaged-goods-moe that make Mir so wonderful. Also, I presume Tilia does not prefer to spend every waking (and sleeping) moment naked if possible.

>>4764728
>Implying the most appealing thing about Ar tonelico isn't the music and setting.

>>4764814
Next fuckin' gen, 3D superior polygons. Christ.

>>4764846

Perhaps, but she still has her own awesome traits. Cooking in her underwear and an apron, surprise confession etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeYRvvFbFEo

>>4764728
Bastardized science and backstory did it for me. I could spend days and days reading the side material. By the way, is there any setting book for AT3?

>>4764882
Technically parallels could be drawn between string theory and AT's Wave Theory...

Delicious.

Why is Mir always naked?

>>4764928
She feels more at ease, and enjoys people's reactions.
No seriously.

>>4764938

Mir is AT's biggest troll.

Psychological warfare.

>>4764903
I'm already happy to understand the parallels between the song magic servers and signal processing. Theoretical physics exceed my sphere of knowledge by far.

>>4764994
Keep praying, maybe one day SCIENCE will give us Reyvateils.
In the meantime I'll take a robo maido.

>>4764998
One can only keep dreaming. While the wave theory and magic system is more or less explained with varying degrees of reality, the RTs manufacturing process is nowhere to be found ;_;

>>4764872

Is it just me or does Tilia actually have breasts there?

>>4765060
Likely handwaved with cloning and gene splicing in the X chromosome (which must in turn be suppressed by something in the Y chromosome so we have no male revatails).

>>4765153
Well, you could dump a siRNA for SRY there while you're modifying whatever chromosome, so even if there's an XY he ends up becoming a girl. Pulling it off is a bit hard but after you do it there should be very few errors.

>>4765153
It's isn't human cloning, alphas were artificially created.
RTs are intrinsically different from humans as their wave composition is pure, and that factor enables them to interact with the tower (use song magic and such).

So, are the heroines really robot/android girls are just human girls with special powers?

>>4765371
An artificially created, genetically compatible subspecies of human with an ability to interface with the towers through singing.

So neither robot nor android are correct as those both imply some level of non-biological systems.

>>4765424
Biological Cyborg?

More of a bio-engineered organism. A synthetic being, shaped in our own image.

Ahh, translation inconsistencies.

I love having my bed, TV, consoles and PC all literally right beside each other. Lying in bed playing vidya with the lossless hymnnos albums playing through my PC headphones, feels good man.

>>4766921
Yeah, the whole Hepburn vs Kunrei-shiki/shu vs syu thing can be confusing at start.

I'm still surprised Croix is a good singer.

>>4764246
What is this?

Up you go.

Meido really needs to wake up.

Taking 5 minutes to look for an image on Pixiv turned into a few hours of browsing through AT tags and adding 200 images or so to my AT folder, feels pretty good.

>>4770920

I've been afraid to do that. Pixiv is a timesink.

>>4770928

I didn't even realize the time. The past week I've been falling asleep around midnight or so but tonight I've had Resonance of Fate sitting there in the background idle for about 4 hours now and instead of going to bed I'm still awake at 3:30am. Oh well, I got some nice images so it's all good.

>>4770969

Post more Tilia after you wake up.

>>4770975

Surprisingly she doesn't get all that much fan art for a main character.

>>4771039
It's been out for two months. More fanart will come.

>>4771049

I suppose, Saki and Finnel have quite a bit though.

>>4771410

They WERE known before the game came out.

Tilia's outfit is so hard to draw I imagine only the more experient artists feel confident about fanart her.

Needs more Akane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi07on8Ytqk

does shurelia appear in 3? what does she do?

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I still can't understand why nisa tried so hard to make Croix look like an asshole.
Seriously he's just answered "No, I didn't", what's with all this bullshit ?

>>4773656
They were RAGE'ing because Croix has a Cocona, two mikos and a Mir.

>>4773760

I'm sad Croix may lose Cocona to Aoto.

>>4774478

I'm fine with Croix but knowing Shirou has a chance at Cocona makes me slightly angry.

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>>4774820

Leeching off the government is now considered rich? Interesting.

>>4774844
I want to buy console games too. ;_; I bet this Ar Tonelico thing is so much fun.

>>4774851
Jones is poor and he's still able to play it. Use an emulator.

>>4774851

Get a dirt cheap PS2 and AT1/2 or just simply emulate the first two games assuming your PC isn't older than me. Getting a PS3 and a decent TV along with importing AT3 might take a few weeks of saving up though if you're living on benefits.

>>4774865
Why bother with HDTVs ?
Buy a VGA cable and use your monitor.

>>4774903

Having a nice HDTV enables me to play vidya and do whatever I want to do on the PC at the same time, all from the comfort of my own bed.

>HDTVs are small time

>>4775270

This would be relevant to my interests if my room was big enough to support it. Unfortunately I can't have a massive Finnel on my wall, feels bad man. ;_;

>>4775270

have both and you don't have to worry to darken your room during daytime

>>4775270
>I'm only Aoto's pervert
HNNNNNNNNNG
Why is she so sweet even when she's weird ?

>>4775270
>>4775270

So like....can you hump the wall?

>>4775645

he can and he has already

>>4775610

Why would you want light in your room in the first place?

>>4775745

some people like sunlight

Is the first game worth playing?
I hear the games have a lot of bugs..

What's the typical play through time?

>>4775784

The first game is good to play, the second game is the only one with a few bugs in it and that's easily solved by installing a patch or grabbing the undub version of the game. Playtime varies depending on if you focus on one girl or decide to play through all of them.

>>4775766

And with all due respect those people do not belong on /jp/.

>>4775800
I see, interesting, I didn't know you could go after girls, so its like a dating sim with JRPG elements? Just for arguments sake, say I go after one girl, rough time?

>>4775784

The first game is worth playing to understand the setting and story. The reason that some people play AT2 first is because, gameplay-wise, it is far and away superior to AT1, which is relatively lacking in that department. Also, you get more Mir in AT2, even if you miss most of her back-story. You should definitely play AT1, but whether you should play it first or not is pretty much up to you. If you do put it off until after AT2, you're probably going to want to go back and play AT2 again, anyway, because a lot of the characters and events are significantly more interesting once you understand what happens in the first game.

Each of the games have at least one major fork in the story, as well as multiple routes and endings for each of the heroines. Playing straight through one time and not touching it again is probably going to take you about 25-35 hours for each game, but you'll be missing a significant amount of the content.

>>4775800
>>4775879

Not person you talked to, but I've been interested in AT for a while and /jp/ continues to renew my interest. Do you know of any good, non-fake torrents of the first two games, with the patch on the second? English preferred.

Also, is there New Game+ at all? I heard there isn't, which would an odd decision on Gust's part with the multiple paths.

>>4775945

http://rapidshare.com/files/370410140/ATtorrents.zip.html
Here are the .torrent files for the copies of the game that I am currently seeding.

There's no new game+ at all, unfortunately. You pretty much just have to make saves at certain points before you make important decisions (they're obvious) and reload them later when you want to take the other routes. Alternatively, you could just play through them again; it's one of those series that throws a lot of information at you throughout the story which you won't notice or understand until later.

>>4775975

Thanks for the link. It's in English right, not undub?

Most unfortunate to hear about no NG+. Maybe Gust just couldn't do it for some reason, because I don't see how they *wouldn't*.

>>4776088

I'm not sure if it's the undub or not but I seriously recommend you play the undub version. A lot of voices were cut and the voice actors for the most part are horrible.

>>4775863

Effectively it's a visual novel with some RPG elements. You have your 2 main girls then you can woo a third part way through the story. You're looking around 30 hours for picking a single route. If you save at the choices you can cut some time off the other routes so you don't have to fully play through the game.

>>4776088

I believe that the undub of AT2 has the English voice acting in it as well, but I'm not sure. The undub version is patched to fix the crash/freeze bullshit bugs, though. If it doesn't have the voice acting you want, you'll have to search around for the original English version + the bugfix patch yourself. I know it's not worth it to start the age-old debate again, but I do have to at least inform you that the English dub for AT2 was absolutely atrocious, especially for Mir.

To be honest, NG+ doesn't make much sense in these games. The major route splits are 7-12 hours into the story, anyway. They're pretty linear aside from that, so there's not a whole lot you could do by keeping your stats or whatever from a NG+ save. The best they could do is some kind of "bookmark" feature, which would be functionally equivalent to just reloading a save made from the decision points, anyway.

>>4776133
>>4776140

I can tolerate mediocre English VA if it means that I can hear how the lines are delivered; delivery can make some lines funny/funnier than if I just heard it in Japanese, I also find it easier to remember English VA than Japanese VA, so anytime I read non-voiced lines I can still "hear" them instead of thinking up random japanese voices.

It's not like I absolutely cannot play a game with no dub voices, though; I'd play with undub if English is that hard to find.

>>4776188 here

Forgot to reply to this part:

>To be honest, NG+ doesn't make much sense in these games. The major route splits are 7-12 hours into the story, anyway. They're pretty linear aside from that, so there's not a whole lot you could do by keeping your stats or whatever from a NG+ save. The best they could do is some kind of "bookmark" feature, which would be functionally equivalent to just reloading a save made from the decision points, anyway.

Well, keeping the stats and stuff WOULD allow you to fly to those points much quicker. Not to mention go through the rest of the game without worrying about leveling up and equipment or anything. You can just reload from the decision points, but you'll have to go through leveling and upgrading instead of just breezing through it to get to the story.

Keeping the stats in AT games is no fun. You deal 5k+ damage while the enemy has 100 hp, it's like playing with cheats.

Did /jp/ prefer the battle system of AT1 or AT2? I am interested to know how the reyvateils will be guarded in AT3, since everyone is running around, can anyone shed some light on this?

>>4776188

Yeah, I won't fault you for wanting the English voices, but there are some pretty good arguments for not using them for this game in particular. Aside from the quality of the acting, AT2 is also known for having a really poor translation in general. If you have at least a basic understanding of Japanese (not a bad assumption for people playing these games) you'll get a lot more out of it if you can hear what was actually being said. There's actually a complete re-translation project underway to fix these issues.

As for whether you can easily find the original version of AT2, I don't really know; I never looked for it, myself. Give me a few minutes and I'll find out if the undub has the English voices or not.

I know that it seems like these games are fucked pretty badly from the things I'm saying, but that alone should tell you something about the quality of the story in this series if, even years later, people are still actively working on projects to fix the issues it originally had from the rushed localization.

>>4776220
I guess, but I wouldn't say that the AT games are particularly hard or grind-y by any means.

>>4776236
AT2 is light-years ahead of AT1 as far as the combat goes. There's not even a comparison.

>>4776236
While the battle system in AT 2 was more intriguing, it was far easier to ABUSE, while AT1 had a modicum of challenge at points.

>>4776253

The only real problem it had were the IPDs that increased the timing window for perfect guarding. They were what really wrecked the difficulty later on. Take that away, and it's a pretty good system.

>>4776243

Yeah, I heard about those translation issues. Like Croix saying, "No I haven't," but in English it's this >>4773656. Someone even linked to a gamefaqs thread about it.

I think it was NISA's attempt to make it "funnier" by making people more snappy, but sometimes it could change a character's personality, I think. Fortunately it seems NISA realized their error and apologized for it, and are making sure they won't mess up this badly when/if they localize AT3.

>>4776277
Both the windows for PERFECT guarding and 'MOTHERFUCKING REPLAKIA DOING 500000 DAMAGE 3 times faster HOLY SHIT' kinda nerf it, but yeah, it is a much better system in overall.

>>4776288

Yeah, Replekia was a little insane, too. I think the root of its overpowered-ness still lies in the ease of perfect guarding later on in the game, though. Replekia becomes significantly less overpowered if you can't simply shrug off 5+ turns worth of attacks in order to charge up your spells to their higher forms before flipping the lolreplekia switch. If you're forced to switch out to blue magic constantly or spam consumables with your vanguards, you can't do near as much with it.

>>4776287

That's not even a particularly bad example. The majority of the item descriptions in the game make very little sense at all. They practically babelfish-ed some of them.

Also, it looks like the undub doesn't have any of the English voices in it.

>>4776346

I used that as an example because it was at the top of my head after seeing that post.

>>4776288
I once charged up Ar Tonelico with replekia for as long as I could (kept using MP recovery items) and got it to do over 1,500,000 damage.

Overpowered?
Yes.
Awesome?
Yes.

>>4776236
When an enemy attacks a Reyvateil in AT3, you press X and instantly teleport in front of the Reyvateil and knock the enemy back.

>>4776303
I never noticed that you could press triangle to equip IPD's ultil 1/3 of the way into the final phase. The game was moderately difficult at times until them but once I got the IPD's that increased defending time it just got ridiculously easy (though still not for the fucking lvl. 9 IPD's that used the huge ass water attack that shakes the screen so goddamn much you can't defend for shit).

D=

>>4776668
I defeated lv 9 IPDs without equipping defense IPDs 15 levels before I was supposed to.
When I actually went around the defense window boost, it seemed too fucking easy/

Oh by the way, I learned there's a "bad end" for Ar Tonelico 1. How would I keep from getting bad ended?

>>4778004
Never give up and do not be an axe maniac.

>>4778004
Obey the Crescent Chronicle and you'll be fine.

>>4778010
>>4778017

All righty. What about AT2, does that have a bad end, too?

>>4778115

Yes. All of the endings other than Mir's and Cocona's.

>>4778115

Cocona is the default 'bad end', as in you couldn't hook up with any of the reyvateils.

I consider it a bad end myself, since Cocona leaves and is confirmed for Aoto.

>>4776303
>later on in the game
Uh, did we play the same game?
ATII was ludicrously easy from the moment you got your first revyateil (and the ability to block).
I don't like ATI's combat as much because you actually take damage.

>>4778189

Both games are quite easy, I just meant that the AT2 system has far more potential. You could make the attacks challenging to block if you remove the guard+ IPDs, but they simply chose to keep the difficulty low.

>>4778189
>ATII was ludicrously easy from the moment you got your first revyateil (and the ability to block).
>I don't like ATI's combat as much because you actually take damage.

I'm seeing conflicting opinions here.

Shurelia was overpowered in AT1 anyways. Feel free to stop leveling when you get her, because she has a song that continually raises your stats.

>>4778004
Search for the answer instead of just going at it.
Most I can give you without spoilers.

Though even if you choose to go at it, you'll just be raped. Bad end is actually pretty hard to get.

Ugh, this translation.

On the subject of new game +, I'm pretty sure AT3 has it, along with the handy feature of skipping parts of the game to reach other parts, eliminating having to slog through parts you didn't like.

Of course this is second hand knowledge...

>>4778228
Hard to get if you don't have enough Tower Connection charges.

>>4778231

People kill when they are died.

>>4778254
>Regenerating health

I don't think so, good sir.

>>4778210
Ar Tonelico isn't something you play for difficulty.
It's a feel-good game. So having combat be totally broken for anyone with a modicum of "skill" satisfies three things at once: it keeps your stress levels low, it keeps your attention on the game, and it makes you feel good about yourself.

>>4778252

Wouldn't you end up skipping decision points that makes the heroines like you more?

I got extremely close to beating Mir in the crescent chronicle

I charged up tower connection i think for like 10 minutes but it still didnt kill her. One of her limbs was like 1 turn away from dying but it regenned the others on its next turn.

>>4778282

Apparently skipping parts include heroine liking you points for easy alternate ending grabbing. I haven't seen it in action, but I'd imagine it'd be like "SECTION D: SAKI" for having more Moeblob points or such.

>>4778430

I guess we'll just have to see when/if it comes out in English.

I can only seem to find the undub for AT2, is there none for AT1?

>>4778545

AT1 already has the Japanese voices.

>>4778559
So did AT2(but they took out a portion of them)

>>4778559
Well silly me. Thanks.

What is this "VideoFix" I keep on seeing though?

>>4778579
The original game used English voices in the cutscenes regardless of what option you selected. It's not a big deal though, there aren't many of them.

>>4778586

Yeah, there's like 3 with voices at MOST and they never last long.

Man, I had forgotten exactly why I thought Luca was such a bitch when I played through this the first time. Man, fuck that whore.

>>4779042

This is funnier if you imagine he's talking to Cocona instead of Luca. (Look at his portrait.)

>>4779054

It's still an amazing line.

>>4779042
Way to be a shallow and short-sighted idiot.

>>4779098

Shallow and short-sighted? I have played through her route before, and she doesn't really get any better.

>>4779129
I see you paid a lot of attention.

>>4779135

I've said it in these threads a few times before, but the main reason I don't like Luca is because she acts almost identically like one of my ex-girlfriends. Maybe someone could like her from an objective standpoint, but I couldn't.

>>4779159

They say Luca is the most 'real' person of these games, this just goes to not only prove it, but also imply that it's not really a good thing.

>>4779159
Now that's a less extreme way of putting things. Also, I think Luca had a much better reason for acting like that (albeit for a short time), and she does get better.

>>4779172

Luca's backstory, compared to Cloche and Mir's, really sucks in justifying her behavior. It works but feels rather weak as a reason.

>>4779168

Yeah, that's most definitely true. Most women that I've met with more depth than a kiddie pool use everyone around them in a similar manner. It's hard to blame them, really, given our culture. If we had Mirs, Coconas, and Shurelias running around in real life, why would we be posting here on /jp/?

>>4779172

It's certainly one of the low points in the game when it comes to her personality. It seems like her words are always laced with venom underneath to some degree, though. Maybe that's just my personal experiences again.

>>4779188
That's just, like, your opinion, man. I think it's a perfectly valid justification. Sure, it doesn't make some of the things she did/does right, but it's not like she was trolling anyone.

>>4779212
>It's certainly one of the low points in the game when it comes to her personality. It seems like her words are always laced with venom underneath to some degree, though. Maybe that's just my personal experiences again.

She's had a life full of hardship and worries. It's hard for people like that to keep an optimistic outlook.

>>4779227
Others with similar experiences manage to be less annoying and/or showcase their good features better.

>>4779227

That still doesn't justify her actions, though. Taking it out on the people who genuinely care about her does nothing but make things worse, and she should know it.

That being said, she does seem genuinely surprised when she finally realizes that Croix, Skycat, Reisha, etc. honestly give a fuck about her and aren't just pretending like she is.

>>4779212
>Yeah, that's most definitely true. Most women that I've met with more depth than a kiddie pool use everyone around them in a similar manner.

3d women:
>hurr imma bone >9000 guys cause Paris Hilton is like totally awesome, also love and honesty are overrated

Luca:
MUST FIND SISTER WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ALIVE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME MUST STAY ALIVE MYSELF, NO MATTER WHAT THE MEANS.

>>4779232
I assure you they're thinking the same underneath. You should be more worried about what you can't see.

>>4779246
She realized that Croix cares about her right after her outbreak in the prison cell, after which she stopped being nasty. And if her flashbacks with Reisha are anything to go by, she was being incredibly distant, any child would think they're hated.

>>4779246
>she should know it.
And I'm sure you have never done anything which, in hindsight, you really should have known to not do.
People are not rational. This is triply true for people who feel cornered and hated.

>>4779266
>after which she stopped being nasty

Gaia would like to have a word with you. I disliked her because of the Gaia part. I was willing to forgive the sister thing since it was so important, but Gaia just made her look like a bitch.

That being said, she does get better.

So I just started Ar Tonelico II after having it for forever and seeing these threads on /jp/.

I kinda want to do Luca because somebody told me she was yandere, but itt people say she sucks.

Is she yandere or is she just a bitch?

>>4779936

Aurica from AT1 is probably more yandere than Luca is. People have varying opinions about her, as you can see from the discussion we were having.

>>4779936

A bitch. She has her reasons but most people either like her or hate her.

>>4779993

Okay, how yandere is Aurica?

>>4779936
Luca is a wonderful character and anyone who says otherwise is pulling your leg.

>>4780274
Aurica is pretty lightweight yan if at all, much more dere. More "possessive" than "kill the fuck out of other girls."

>>4780336
>"fuck ... other girls"

Now it's good.

>>4780336

Well, I think that at least some of the writers wanted her to be yan, but were held back for some reason. They portray her that way in the Toukosphere a lot, especially around Luca.

>>4780336

Possessive is excellent too.

I really, really like Yoppi, for example, though she got pretty crazed near the end, regardless of being possessive or not.

Kotonoha is also high tier... she just goes completely batshit insane during the endings where she is particularly yandere. Delicious.

Miyako Ookura is my favorite, though nobody knows who the fuck she is whenever I post about how she's mai waifu on /a/.

>>4780409

How can she be your waifu if she's slutting it up with another girl?

>>4780624

Name of VN?

>>4780667
Tsuyokiss

>>4780677

Right, I'll get right on th--

>no translation

Damn it.

>>4780624
>>Yoshimi
>>pretty crazed near the end
>>implying Yoppi isn't an emotional wreck and doesn't go apeshit whenever you even so much as look at another girl

Well, at least she never blames you, just the other girl and herself.

Luca's not exactly a paragon of waifu material, especially by /jp/ standards, but she's hardly the bitch that many call her. Considering her upbringing and the lessons life had taught her thus far, she had plenty of reason to believe she needed to be manipulative and calculating.
She felt any joy in life was stolen from her when her sister was taken, and because her mother figure was so distant, she never learned how to trust or love anyone. As a result, she uses anyone and everyone as a means to try and find her sister to reclaim the joy that was stolen from her.

>>4780879

Skycat, on the other hand, is delicious.

Excellent, AT1 just finished downloading. Time for me to woo some loli Misha.

>>4782749

She spends a good portion of the game with boobs, be careful. But you can re-lolify her later... and if you do it multiple times you get called on it.

>>4782749
You don't need to woo her, In fact, Lyner ignores her advances and tries to slow down the relation.

>>4782861

But Lyner is a faggot. Why would you deny advances from loli Misha?

Does anyone have that image saved of the settings to use in the emulator?

>>4783769
Is it that difficult to spend 5 minutes tinkering with it yourself?

>>4783781

Why yes, yes it is. I know certain things add black boxes and what not so it would just be easier to get a list of settings to use.

>>4783807
GScx 1873 (appropriate instruction set)
Pick a resolution
chose an interlacing option
Aspect 4:3
Select Native internal Res
Options:
Tex Filtering
Log Z
Allow 8 bit
Alpha Correction
Wait VSync

Audio settings: SPU2-x 1.2 w/ default settings
CDVD: Linuz Iso CDVD

That's what I run with for AT1. haven't tried AT2 with these settings yet. Should run fine.

ar3 when?

Wait, what? This is on the Cloche route. Luca is standing right behind Croix's portrait.

>>4785103
Yeah, she says that on both routes. Another one of NISA's fuck ups.

>>4785103

This made me wonder what the fuck was going on when I seen it during my playthrough.

Finnel with her hair down.. so delicious.

>>4787679
Delicious Finnel

>>4787679
Are you sure that's not Hitagi?

Poor Reyvateils.

>>4787725

You're welcome to check the Pixiv page.

>>4787866
Yeah, they're soooo abusive.
Should've used the part where they describe making them Dive against their will instead.

>>4787866
Are Reyvateils considered as objects/commodities more than as partners?

>>4787886
It's a plot point in the first game that there is a certain level of abuse of the revatails by a certain group. In general, however, no.

>>4787886

To a certain group in the storyline they're treated like dirt, in the first 10 minutes or so of the game you manage to see a reyvateil get backhanded.

And god damn, just met up with Misha but it's 5:30AM and I can barely keep my eyes open.. I want my loli Misha. ;_;

>>4788381
>You will never backhand a Reyvateil.

>>4788393

I dunno, Finnel would gladly get backhanded if you're Aoto.

I wonder if Reyvateil minds are fucked up in general considering the need for Diving and what you have experienced in the past 3 games.

>>4788381
Fuck Misha, this here is the TRUE best female of the first Ar Tonelico.

>>4788434
That's not Lyner.

>>4788433
All the ones you've dived into in the games have been traumatised by certain events, and are therefore mentally unstable to a degree. In Reyvateils living in more normal circumstances, the cosmosphere would likely just be tackling normal insecurities rather than working over massive mental problems.

>>4788418
Why does there seem to be more poor-quality Finnel fanart than there is of anyone else?

Is it because she's associated with bondage, and BDSM stuff generally attracts horrid artists, or do the Japanese just hate her?

>>4788481
Also, depending of whether or not the guy is a douch, Reyvateils almost always end up with their partner right? Unless...they die of course.

>>4788459
Lyner is an insensitive asshole.

>>4788509
Looks that way from what we know, Reyvateil's pretty much only let people they really like Dive into them, unless they're forced to in order to get stronger like the Tenba Reyvateils.

>>4788608
>Forced Diving=Literal Mind Rape
BTW, has there been any info on what is happening on the surface of the planet? Or at least at the really low parts of the towers?

>>4788640
Apparently the bottom bits of the towers have been left in tact for reasons that are unknown, if they'd been destroyed, the towers would have vanished.

Apparently AT3 ends with the Sea of Death being cleared away and the surface becoming inhabitable again.

>>4788493
Finnel is popular. There's an equal amount of shitty and awesome art for her.

It's just the bondage stuff that's mostly shitty.

>>4788674
I can't wait to fight mass produced Gameras on the planet's surface in AT4!

>>4788705
The next Ar Tonelico definitely won't be a sequel as the towers stop functioning at the end of 3

>>4788717
Ar Tonelico: From the New World.

>>4788740
Instead of Reyvateils, you get an endless amount of completely fucking useless monsters in your party!

Sounds great!

>>4788757

I call dibs on Lamia.

>>4788757
I think that was supposed to be a reference to Shadow Hearts, not Tales of Symphonia

Although both are good examples of how to destroy the legacy of an awesome series by forcing it to go on long after the plot has finished.

>>4788819
I call wolfgirl.

>>4788832
Source on this?

>>4788837
Got it from monstergirl threads on /tg/.

Have some more.

>>4788717
Fuck me for hovering over spoilers.

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Alright, 6 hours of sleep will have to do. Back to getting me some loli Misha.

>>4788848
why do all of them only eat semen?

>>4790363
So they have an excuse to rape men.

>>4790363
magical energy / life giving energy bullshit that sorta thing

>>4790363

Why not? Monster girls brutally raping men for their semen is pretty moe.

DIVE INTO ME LYNER

It's like I'm really playing Final Fantasy XIII.

>>4792182
>implying the nips called it that and that it wasnt just a name change for the US

>>4792222

I heard his Japanese voice say paradigm shift.

>>4792222
It was called Paradigm Shift in the Japanese version.

>>4792376
>>4792403
Wow, he sure got told.

>>4792776
No, I'm pretty sure he was talking about FF13.

>>4792778

It's called that in the Japanese version too. The only difference is the Japanese version has different class names. Blaster = Ravager, Healer = Medic etc.

Ar Tonelico sure is innuendo and screencaps: the rpg, isn't it?

I'm partially confused, I thought Gustfix comes with the updated emulator? Because I still get this on some scenes, although not very many.

>>4792834

Yep.

>>4792855
Emulating? I'm playing without the fix and that offset problem is currently fixed in the beta r1888 version of pcsx2.

>>4792855

There is only slight pixel issues here and there, then again keep in mind Sony have so far been unable to provide full software emulation for the PS2.

>>4794177

>Firefox can't find the server at pcsx2.net.

Well fuck.

>>4794240
Hmm, well damn. I played through both games with the older version and just dealt with the annoying offset. I suppose you'll have to as well in the meantime.

So, there's something I've been wanting to know.

There's a timeline of events out there that has major events of history and when they happened for the first two games. And it looks like the second game took place over two years.

And I think I've read that AT3 takes place two years after the end of 2, so wouldn't that make Cocona 15? Like her profile say's she is?

So why do people say she's 13?

>>4795133
Cocona was 11 on the second game, so if only 2 years passed since the second game, do the math.

>>4795457

Sure thing.

11 (at the start) + 2 (game completion) + 2 (AT3) = 15.

>>4795503
Bullshit!

>>4795503

>11 (at the start)

What a hag.

I've used that stuff at <a href=http://suesdiary.info>Sues Diary</a> myself. I tried the colon cleanse and had great results.

Bri :)

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere

These toukousphere translations are pretty interesting.

My face when Soma and Cocona were having EPIC BOARD-RACE BATTLE.

I'm also curious as to how many others posting in this thread are currently playing AT3.

>>4796763
At least 1. I'm on the bit where they're all talking about the DFP now.

>>4796763

Not many, I imagine, including myself. Not until English version comes out, whenever that may be.

>>4797291
Too poor to buy a PS3. ;_; Hopefully I can get one for cheap when prices drop again.

>>4796763
I cleared Tilia's true end last night. Now I'm pretty much done unless I want to get Cocona's end / minor stuff.

>>4797449

Which you do. Of course you want the Cocona end. Best for last and all.

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>>4797449
OH MY GOD SOMA MARRY ME

Posting some 11 year old hag.

>>4771507

Needs more Akane.

>unless I want to get Cocona's end
...you DO want to get Cocona's end, yes?

>>4800472

But she's too old.

>>4801112
And Tilia isn't?

>>4801379

At least she's flat.

>>4797449
Where is this image from, and is there a high resolution version anywhere?

So there's no Tower Connection/Replekia doomsday song in the third game ?
Gust I'm disapoint

>>4802511
There's Flipspheres instead.

>>4802612
Flipspheres ?
Come on it's the same fucking animation with different models.
Small shits fall, larger shit fall last.
They can't compare to the blood rush activating Replekia gives you or the orgasmic pleasure of unleashing Phantasmagoria on your enemy's head.

>>4802800
Replekia is just the same magic with a different background.

Frelia's linkage armor? Is that canon?

>>4804751

It's awesome regardless.

What exactly is the point of the Linkage armour anyway? Does it allow greater control over the tower or something?

Both models we've seen have been a complete failure as actual armour, so that can't be it's primary function.

>>4805816
If it's the same as Shurelia's, it allows them to better focus and control their feelings and thus to sing better.

Linkage armor provides enhancements.

>>4807050

Looks like a downgrade to me.

>>4807050
>castoff

Definitely needing some castoff AT3 figs

>>4807085

It's a trade off really. Lose your delicious flatness for looking awesome.

>>4807561
>lose their delicious flatness
'lose' in a very crude sense.

>>4807759

You know what I mean. The armour gives the girls the appearance that they have at least a C cup or something.

>>4808517
Yeah well

>>4764248
So I finished downloading the lossless disks. What is Foobar and where can I get it?

>>4808672

Foobar is an open source media player that is very easy to customise which is why a lot of people like it. It's quite light on resouces too, I believe. I only use it to convert stuff over to FLAC.

http://www.foobar2000.org/

Has anyone successfully used cheats with their emulator? Much appreciated if you would post your methods.

>>4808768
Why would you need cheats for Ar Tonelico 1&2?
Neither game is difficult enough to warrant them.
//With the possible exception of AT1's 'Bad' End

>>4808775
I need money so that I don't have to fight Reyvatails for their Gergo drops. No problem with fights, DP or SP on my run.

>>4806149
Why does Tilia get more powerful as she strips her Linkage off then?

>>4808802
You can also get them from Reptites in Mikry or Ironplate early on. They're also an uncommon instead of a rare drop.

No idea if there are any infinite moneymakers in the second one like the Gravard Compass from the first.

>>4808879
Well I'm at Sol Marta now and running out of money, is there a place to farm then? Bloody Spica and her overpriced goods did me in.

>>4808914
>Buying from Spica
Found your problem.

>>4808940

When I first seen Spica's prices I couldn't help but laugh. Overpriced bitch.

>>4808844

It's like when Goku took off those weights so he could fly.

Sigh, not again.

>>4808768
I've successfully used an infinite money Gameshark code for AT1 just to get all of the cards.

Don't use the "master code" by the way if you're using PCSX2-it doesn't need it.

Anti-bullshit bump.

You guys let the OC thread die ;_;

>>4811485
Casualties are inevitable

>>4811111

Had to go out for a hour or two, nice to see this has survived the faggotry.

>>4808879
For some reason, this reminds me of one of the few complaints that I had about AT1:

Whenever the storyline came to a SCREECHING HALT because the game arbitrarily demanded that you craft some item in order to progress; I never seemed to have the mats handy whenever that happened.

>>4811890
Only time I recall that happening was the Cosmosphere for Aurica on my first playthrough. This was mostly because I'd managed to get far deeper into her Cosmosphere than I "should have been" at that point in the game (Late Stage 1/Early Stage 2) where the materials don't become available for that craft until later.

Thanks Meido.

>>4811890
Play better!

>>4811485
>>4811735

What is the faggotry you guys are talking about?

>>4812770
4811111 get.

>>4812770

Retards from /b/ doing their usual EPIK RAID LULZ XDDDD for KoG.

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>>4812990
>>4812949

Ah. Glad I missed it then.

I'm newb at this place & I've wanted to say hello to you all :D

I've been following this site for couple of weeks and it looked like a really nice place to be a part of.

>>4811485
Wish I could have been around to save it. Thanks for helping the AT thread though.

>>4811090

>>4814621
WHY WONT YOU LET ME SUCCUMB TO THE TEMPTATION?! ;_;

>>4815377

WHY IS THERE NO SPICA ROUTE?

>>4815444

Because she's a hardcore lesbian for Mir.

>>4815450

I'll take that option as well.

>>4811485
We can't have that. OC threads are filled with the hopes and dreams of /jp/.

>>4816031
I'm starting to grow weary of that guy's art.

>>4764724
Is there some joke I'm missing for Halloween.jpg?

>>4816040


I think his comic is nice, actually.

Portraying the average /jp/ anon as a spineless loser? Bravo, sir, bravo. Very realistic.

>Posts: 298

Well at least there's still interest.

>>4816040

It's not nice to be jealous, Anonymous.

>>4817009

Nope, it's just Sion. He thinks Cloche is the only good character so he posts Halloween.jpg in every thread.

>>4817319

It just reminds me about Phase 2 and it's horrible playable 'minigame' sections.

>>4817009
>>4817319
Sion just hates any character that doesn't have big breasts. It's the only reason he likes Cloche. And he hates AT3 because it has more loli than healthy:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/o/j8lesFdPe1f3B9PQQZCw==

He did get hit with an auto ban for posting the "why is" text though. He can thank Bawson for that.

Guess I'll make a new thread in a bit then since yet another AT thread has hit its bump limit so I assume there's still interest.

>>4817530

don't forget to link to the new one

New thread at >>4817598.

>>4817548

I always do, Anonymous.