/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>47517464
Enje...

>>47517476
...is no more

don't tell me you people actually believe shkanontrice

Drawing Jessica daily until the loveless opera ends

The general was called seacatS...
>>/jp/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_subject=seacats

>>47517491
>5
But it's only day three though?

>>47517500
Kill me

>>47517504
You REALLY don't want to see the other jeshikas

>>47517490
Clearly R07 hid the real truth in the code of the game and by using a caesar cipher you can discover that fapping to Kanon is not gay

Extra erotic rat.

>>47517464
I, for one, welcome our new /seacat/ overlords

>>/jp/thread/14968252#p14976946
Simpler better times,

>>16939939
7 years later but
Does anyone have sauce on this Beato?

>>47517500
Dying out breed, prease understando

what more is there to discuss

>>47517746
Well, 2 threads ago we had like a 150 posts long discussion whether Yasu is evil or not
So there's clearly something left to discuss

>>47517600

>>47517758
i am sure that has been discussed already but feel free to rediscuss.

>>47517840
Not saying to discuss that in particular

Posting... Bernkastel... from Umineko?

>>47517827
Would pat and give ice cream to her. Rub rub rub rub rub rub.

>>47518044
Doesn't look like her even remotely

>>47518089
You have to squint

It took me quite A WHILE to realize Erika killed herself

>>47518187
she is meant to be a mirror of ange, after all

Is it gay to fap to Beatrice?

>>47518541
why would it be? no matter what intrepetation you believe in, beato will always be 100% a woman

>>47517646
Art style is unmistakably Redrop
Idk when they drew this, but I don't think anyone else could have drawn this

Was Amakusa really going to kill Ange?

>>47518541
Only if you're a gay reddit nigger

>>47518870
I went through dozens of hentai websites, hundreds of doujinshi and thousands of pictures.
My spirit is broken
My dick is unjerked
But I wont give up searching for it

Drawing jeshika daily until the loveless opera ends

>>47523072
Have you though about seriously starting to learn how to draw to improve your art?

>>47517646
This looks interesting. I think i'm gonna start hunting the source too.

>/07/th (/higurashi/) is full of chaotic schizo fights
>/seacat/ is calm and comfy
I think that settles it. Higurashi is the root of all the problems.

It's time to settle this once and for all, is yasu trans?

>>47524308
>Born male
>Pretends and wants to be female
Yes?

>>47524104
this incoming shitstorm's on you for mentioning it, i hope you know that

>>47524308
>Man from 19 years ago
at the end of the day it doesn't matter is yasu is a tranny or not, her fans certainly are lmao

>>47524308
Does it matter? If being a woman is what makes Yasu happiest then that's all there is to it, I think it's pretty heartless to care about such a meaningless detail such as gender and ignores the entire point of the story

>>47524308
Yes she is and we stan our trans queen

I want all of you who says yasu is trans to make your case because it makes no sense to me

>>47524340
To be honest it was only a matter of time until he got bored of being bullied by rikafags

>>47524393
>Born biologically male
>lost his penis and balls in the cliff accident
>Was given a neo-vagina by dr,nanjo
>the entire love game in episode 6 being about yasu's confusion over her biological male urges and her wish to be a female
>Man from 19 years ago
The tragedy aspect of Yasu's character falls apart if you take away her trans characteristic

>>47524308
>kills himself via suicide in the end
Ryukishi was too based for this world

What chapter did she say this in again?

>>47517642
Let's see what people thought about the subject before the so called election tourists arrived here...

">Shkannon
>Kanon is either Shannon or Yasu
>Part 7
>Shannon can't call Kanon
>But Yasu is already Lion
>So Shannon will be Kanon instead of Yasu being Kanon
SO YASU IS A BOY?????"

>>47524416
what are you talking about, it makes perfect sense for her to have a massive woman moment after learning she can't have incest kids with her cousinnephews

>>47524424
Episode 8 right before she ACKS xirself

>>47524467
"losing your dick doesn't make you not a boy, anon"

">>14976946
I have no clue what anything you wrote here is supposed to mean, but yes, Yasu is a boy. Or at least he was before he got his dick ripped off"

">>14976946
Yes, and Lion is as well. Just accept that you're gay, and everything will be easier."
"

>>47524467
>>47524480
Based oldanons calling out troon garbage

So are you all still going to pretend Higurashi is the problem and not the yellow discord cancer?

>>47524498
Satoko has been posted nowhere in this thread.

>>47524498
We already know the the yellow witchtroon and that other rykord guy are behind it.

>>47524522
Beatricefags what the fuck?

>>47524509
He meant Beatrice

"I've already accepted that Sayo Yasuda is a boy. But why does everyone assume that Lion is the same gender as Yasu? Lion's alternate universe already has a few differences. Natsuhi accepts the child, Kinzo lives longer, Battler never returns, etc. And according to the manga, Lion doesn't even have the same appearance as Yasu. So why does everyone assume that they're the same gender?"

hey look i can pull up old posts too!
>>6795262
>There are too much indications in EP7 that Yasu is a girl, its not even worth the debate.
>The problem is that /jp/ want to be the little girl so much that it picks one line that could imply the mere possibility of Yasu being a transexual and uses it as definitive proof.
that took me two seconds to find, get a better argument

Sperg, if you actually believed Beatrice was a tranny, you would not be jerking off to her.

Man, I was so appalled from Umineko at first because I heard everywhere that it's a "tranny game" with a shitty conclusion. But what the hell - it's great. And it's literally anti trans to boot.
Seriously I'm at chapter 4 where Bernkastel and Lambdadelta are trashtalking Beatrice for hours straight and I could basically hear them say "join the 41%" the whole time through kek.
They're literally confirming that "she" won't get a happy ending and will either off "her"self or just disappear. Battler is also great, telling them that he hates their guts and will destroy them for the sake of his family, completely shattering Beatrice's delusions about some gay ass same sex relationship.

Gonna read chapter 5 next, and as long as Ryukishi doesn't suddenly do a 180° backflip and incorporates tranny propaganda or some shit I seriously don't get the hate.

>>47523120
Working on it but my hands are shaky

Clean it up, janny.

>>47524655
>Gonna read chapter 5 next, and as long as Ryukishi doesn't suddenly do a 180° backflip
i have bad news for you anon-kun

>>47524628
When that post was made EP8 hadn't even been translated yet.

>>47525026
that post is in a thread about translated rifyu EP8 comics, just because there wasn't a thorough translation of the episode yet doesn't mean people on /jp/ didn't know anything about it
and besides, EP8 isn't where everyone draws from to make their points about yasu's gender anyway, there's not exactly anything in there that'd suddenly sway someone's opinions so if opinions randomly changed after EP8 was translated then if anything you're just making it sound like it was a western problem
regardless, here's one from after translated EP8 was released just to make you feel better
>>12404372
>Yasu's gender is never outright stated, but is visualized enough in Confession and implied enough by things like Shannon winning in EP6 and Shannon's personality being Yasu's ideal form that we can call her a girl more accurately than we can call her a boy.
>Yasu's injury that gave her a body that was unable to love/bare children does not imply external damage, and Ryu himself has said so - the point is that it can go either way.
once again, get a better argument

>>47517500
I remember when that started back up way back when. It was a Beato and "who seacats here" thread.

>>47525396
Is that a mother fucking Umineko mod for Hard Time?????

>>47517646
Ah-non?

>>47525164
>Yasu's injury that gave her a body that was unable to love/bare children does not imply external damage, and Ryu himself has said so - the point is that it can go either way.
What are you trying to prove by posting this exactly?
My argument is that the majority of Umineko fans always leaned toward a male Yasu solution, which seems to check out.

>>47525420
Yeah and sadly it is long gone from the internet and my hd with it died years ago.

>>5731009

>>47524655
Good pasta

It's not like one Mion will hurt, right?

>>47526725
The best summer illustration

>>47517464
I have not seen a /seacats/ thread in a looooong time.

>>47526775
There's a better one with a tipsy Natsuhi in a folding chair on the beach, beer in hand. Unfortunately, I lost it years ago.

>>47526725
>>47526775
I think Battler is being killed.

Drawing Jessie daily until the loveless opera ends

>>47525780
The one on the right will kill you for something innocuous she overheard you say out of context. The one on the left will also kill you to confirm that the one on the right actually killed you

>>47527696
sex

>>47524308
Yes, Umineko is inherently a queer work

>>47534119
nice, but I have two very convincing counter-arguements

>>47534244
The goat butlers, much like Yasu's breasts, don't actually exist

>>47533348
wtf is the loveless opera?

>>47534533
the schizophrenic mental breakdowns in the threads, I assume

Unpopular opinion, but I think Jessie is sexier than Ange.

>>47534119
Why is she crying? Is it because she spilled her drink?

>>47535279
These are tears of happiness she found herself a man like me

>>47535279
She's happy. Getting druk cuts off the influence of the shinto demons that give her headaches.

fuck, marry and kill

>>47535889
Just give me padjobs and nobody gets hurt.

Where the fuck is Angefag, we cant have a thread without him.

>>47535889
Break the mirror.
Fuck nothing.
Marry everything.

>>47535731
I saw this picture a hundred times before I realized Ange was there.

George and Ange are the most annoying characters desu.

>>47536233
The scariest thing about Joji is that R07 considered him to be his "cool" self insert.

>>47535889
Fuck Beato
Marry Kanon
Kill Shannon

>>47536246
nopan queen

>>47534244
yespan king

Sex in shower is the best sex
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/12273381#manga

Drawing Je4ka daily until the loveless opera ends

>>47536233
Ange was fine until she got made into a child so R07 could talk down to his audience

>>47542266
If you just drink every time Dragon Knight Siete shit talks Mysteryfags or expects you to feel bad for Yasu you'll either have a much better time or see Beatrice like Kinzo on Absinthe

>>47542266
Ange was fine until she decided to turn into a murderer if the reader decides to choose uncomfortable truths over comforting lies

>>47543320
>or expects you to feel bad for Yasu
or expects you to believe their dipshit double life disguise was somehow flawless except for when Battler recognized Beatrice as Shannon immediately in the manga even though no one else fucking did
or when he insists he didn't change the culprit even though there's noticeable retcons in the story itself
or when he insists the cliffbaby thing makes any fucking sense
you know what just down the whole bottle the second you start, no need to prolong it

>>47543320
So, why shouldn't I feel bad for her? Should I not feel bad for Maria and Ange too?
>>47543465
He recognised by her voice because she fucked up. Everything can be solved with Shkanontrice from EP1

>>47543465
What are the retcons?

Drawing Jessica daily until the loveless opera ends

Maybe this is the best time for /07th/ to end. Let the schizos eventually sputter out, or continue forever as bots talking to bots, and we all just move on to the Golden Land?

>>47548498
Even in the golden land, Kanon-kun will not be able to trim roses with his ****

>>47548498
the path to the golden land is simply to close the thread

>>47548498
Anons have been suggesting this for over a year now. Maybe it will get better when ryu releases something new worth discussing.

>>47548605

>>47549056
as i'll always say, so long as those schizos exist there's no way for the actual thread to die for good, it's just unfeasible since they'll just make another to keep on baiting each other in perpetuity
this 'creating a separate thread to talk about a specific game' thing somewhat worked for umineko, but there's no way an equivalent thread for RGD or higanbana would ever manage considering there's like 3 people in current /07/th who've actually read those
it's a sad state of affairs we're in right now

>>47549100
It's not like anyone is prohibiting them from coming here. I don't think anyone would be against it, even if this won't be a pure /seacats/ thread.

>>47549143
No.

But now that I'm thinking about it, everyone immigrating here will just turn this place into /07/th 2

>>47524308
Nope. It's just not possible without justifying by everyone's obliviousness for such a long time. The best theory of this would be that Shannon and Kanon were two different people, but in the last month to lead up to it, Shannon or Kannon solved the epitaph and then one died, leaving the other to assume their identity during the conference.

>>47536233
Ange is a half-breed chuuni, so it's okay
George is literally me, so it's okay.

>>47550733
aw that's cut-
wait a minute
POKEMON DID NOT EXIST IN 1986

>>47550894
Umineko came out in 2007
Umineko takes place in 1986
2007-1986= 21 years

The current year is 2024
The Nintendo DS came out in 2004 (in japan)
2024 - 2004 is 20 years

I think in spirit of the timeline, it works out.

>>47551191
Molest.

>>47551362
Molest x2

>>47550921
The DS coming out in 2004 will never leave me.
Nintendo made a space age game (and social) device that predated the iPhone. I think if Nintendo wanted to enter the market, they could have slapped Apple's shit in Asia with a similar device. Maybe it was just impossible, but I'm thinking of other fragments.

>>47551417
Anon, these aren't little girls anymore

>>47550733
Shit. In my head, she's obsessed with fishing in Animal Crossing, and can't let go of a white whale fish that only exists in her mind.

>>47551716
She probably would be, but listening to someone talk about Pokemon when you're not interested is much worse to endure.

>>47551740
True, because Rosa would secretly have her own town.

>>47555020
spooky enje...

>>47550765
I prefer they're separate people, but there's an identity confusion between them which results in the author writing as though they're the same person as a hint towards it. Like, if Kanon was originally "Shannon" and the current more retarded Shannon was a new hire, Kanon might write the message bottles to see if Battler could figure out who his Shannon really was. So the whole thing of someone living a ridiculous double life is nothing but a literary trick.

>>47551797
I think it'd be one of the few things they can enjoy together. Maria playing Animal Crossing with Rosa just back seating Maria, the only secret would be when Maria goes to bed, Rosa would grind out more bells for Maria.

>>47555365
i don't know what's better here, that adorable maria or that slob rosa

>>47555365
Cute Maria but also Rosa sexo.

>>47555365
>Maria rambles at the breakfast table about gifts the Beatrice visitor NPC leaves her
>"OK, Maria..."
>Rosa gets hammered one night and stays up late pulling weeds in the rain (Maria never gets rid of them, and considers each one a new friend)
>Right as she's about to save at 1 AM, there's someone in a dress putting a package in their mailbox. They hide behind their umbrella and run away.
>Inside is a NES game that shouldn't exist on the disc.

>>47555820
i can totally see sayo getting up to weird shit with maria in multiplayer games when rosa's out at night leaving her with no fucking clue what the hell maria is on about when she enthusiastically greets her mother coming home late with "mama i played mario party with beatrice! today she was a cool turtle made of bones and i took all of the ghost's stars and won the game!!"

>>47555898
>Beatrice performs a magic ritual so her and Maria will never have to be apart.
>It summons a piece of paper with her friend code on it.

Drawing Jessica daily until the loveless opera ends

Yasu caused the massacre because they autistically dominated at Mario party but lost all their stars to Gohda on a last turn chance time

>>47556660
finally... we know the true reason why he had to die...

>>47556637
I respect your hustle, but make sure to draw her boobs next time.

>>47557021
cute

>>47557186
and Kanon.

Drawing Jessica twice(?) daily until the loveless opera ends

>>47557438

>>47557511
I like your art style. It's very "The Incredibles storyboards."

I want to impregnate Jessica

>>47558023

>>47558023
IT'S TOO DAMN CUTE

>>47550765
>by everyone's obliviousness for such a long time.
None of the episode stories actually happened anon, Kanon and Shannon never had a shift close to each other, most of the family don't visit often enough. There's no proof she really fooled people that easily, but she is androgynous and it's not impossible either. It can be done.

The only exception is Jessica who deliberately tried to stay ignorant of shenanigans. She never appeared as Beatrice either to anyone but Maria too, right? And Battler at the end, and the family in the golden room, but at that point they wouldn't have cared.

>>47558024
>>47558023
>>47555365
>>47550733
OH MY GODDDD

>>47558023
Nice. Future Rosa didn't buy Sakutarou at a thrift store. It was her own doll growing up, and she gave it to Maria.

>>47519529
literally catbox question, he both kills and doesn't kill ange in ep4/8 depending on magic or trick

>>47558106
what if she did make it herself first, then submitted it to her fashion company for production as her way to apologize to maria after destroying it (while Rosa does lie obsessively, Maria seeing any other sakutarou somewhere else would break the spell - she at least tried to hide her date receipts).

Unfortunately, they both died before production went underway, but it does mean there were some around for ange to find in the future.

why doesnt anyone make memes with the pachinko sprites...do you all just have bad taste?

>>47558120
I wasn't talking about the OG. I'm on autism cloud 9 thinking about parallel fragments.

>>47558127
oh then yes you're 100% correct and true right

a trip down memeory lane

>>47558137
It actually just takes one to build a universe. Then nobody can deny it!

>>47558159
enje...

>>47558159
Mammon is strong if she can lift two tons

>>47558159
>>47558163
Is Ange dating ALL the stakes, or just Mammon?

>>47558396
Mammon is her wife.

>>47557675
I don't think I have a solid style yet, but I play around with a couple different choices for sketching. I'm woefully American so I have a western cartoon taste growing up that never left, despite my change of interest. My only rule to make sure to draw whatever in at most a day.

>>47551191
Shannon-chan...

imagine being married to Mion and coming home after a long day and she cuddles with you and tells you all the things she loves about you,

The question is Batora canonically gay?

>>47558783
>>47558768
It's not gay to fuck Kanon.

>>47558792
based manifesto enjoyer

>>47558792

>>46164046
Ryukishi is too much of a faggot to actually ever do this

If Kanon and Shannon are separate people, does that mean Shannon's boobs are real?

>>47559379
theyre real
and theyre spectacular

>>47559379
>Battler, if you want to know what real breasts feel like, why don't you ask your mother?

>>47559485
Unlimited Yaoi Works

>>47557438
You finally got the head down only to fuck literally everything else up

I still believe spaghetti beato was one kinky slut

>>47561485
Only for Kinzo

We know who Virgilia and Ronove are but who the fuck is Gaap and why is she always listed with the other two if she doesn't have a RL parallel

>>47561485
What are her fetishes?

>>47558023
Sakutaro is so lucky.

>>47561660
gaap's real life parallel is clearly shannon. the split skirt resembles the maid uniform, and she has huge tits and wants to fuck george

>>47560174
I just know that there is at least one anon itt who named his cat Bern

>>47562848
This is very beautiful Enje

>>47563118
i would berry my dick so far inside her ass who ever could pull it out would be crowned king arthur

>>47563118
Imagine staying late at Ushiromiya group working on tax evasion or something only for you to get the flash of a lifetime as Ange plummets down to the ground

>>47563141
Ha.

>>47563118
Stupid sexy Ange

>>47563309
>>47563118
these Anges are red board material

big delicious ange thighs

OP is French, gay, and also has a HUGE pecker.

>>47563481
Post proof of this so called smelly french pecker

>>47563503
I can't, only OP can post his FAT gay baguette.

>>47563509
You heard him OP hurry up and pull down your trousers so we can get a look at this thick french sausage

>>47563528
He is probably too busy managing his discord server or something.

Dont tell me it was another discordfag who made the OP

>>47563540
His name is White and he is French, all I can tell you before I reveal my position in the 'cord cabal echelons.

Nobody gives a fuck retards.

>>47563540
Almost everyone here is a discordfag retard

thanks

So why did she wear contact lenses even as Shannon?

>>47563853
the answer to literally ALL questions about her appearance is immense self-hatred.

it was my birthday yesterday
this is me btw if anybody even cares

why does ryukishi love evangelion so much?

>>47564123
do you think ange enjoyed evangelion? or did it just make her more sad?

>>47563853
she's a queen card~

>>47564123
typical midwit taste

what do you think it smells like

>>47564640
Coriander.

>>47564640
Cinnamon

>>47564640
sea water, like what you'd smell at the beach

>>47564640
Necco Wafers.

>>47564677
know what else tends to be at beaches

>>47564640
a pinch of rye

>>47564761
Horseflies.

>>47564769

>>47564818
ange only likes em big (amakusa's guns or mammons boobs)

>>47564910
Her Father was an Ameriboo. She inheritted the taste for bigger and burgers

>>47564910
The idea of Ange unironically devoting herself to her lesbian tulpa is pretty fucking hot.

I love umineko...!

>>47564945
>Ange having a threesome in her mind when she's actually having a twosome

>>47564992
Who is the three?

>>47564138
I bet she had an Asuka phase

>>47565202
It never left her

>>47565353
This is a very normal lesbian relationship tbgf

>>47565020
battoru

>>47517646
>>47523985
Any progress on finding it?

>>47569085
LONG

>>47569382
why isn't there more featherine ange Yuri

>>47565353
That specific type of chair would hurt so much. Those things are brick shithouses. Even the goddess of certainty might die.

>>47569382
Busty.

>>47570378
Bern looks really goood

>>47570426
Yeah she used to do some great Suigintou cosplay as well.

>>47570378
It would be real funny if they were scissoring and kissing. Haha, I'm laughing just thinking about it.

>>47570507
You are not the only one

Enje...

>>47570607
>Natsuhi finally gets the one wing
D'awww.

>>47570607
she deserves that eagle, and a whole lot more

>>47570607
ROSA ROSA ROSA

>>47570685
I'm getting dangerously close to Rosa's approximate age, and it makes me really hard.

>>47570719
but once you reach rosa's age, then she's just a single mother still obsessing over her baby daddy who smacks the shit out of her adorable little gremlin daughter
rosa's value lies entirely in her being an older woman, take that away and she's got fuck alll going for her

Are there any anons desperate enough to date Sayo?

>>47570728
Yeah, but real single mothers are fat crack addicts. Rosa is hot and vulnerable and I can fix her. I can't fix her.

>>47570738
i WILL fuck crazy, and it WILL end poorly for me

>>47570719
Rosa doesn't care about age. She only cares about love.
>>47570728
Rosa is more than an age. I wouldn't care if she was a milf or teen mom, I'd love her for who she is.

>>47570738
Would date her right now if possible

>>47570607
Delicious Rosa butt.

>>47570728
>adorable little gremlin daughter
The real reason why Kyrie is a massive piece of shit? She robbed us of adult Maria

>>47570944
You can see the mental retardation in her eyes

>>47570719
the face that somehow seduced multiple people at once

>>47570944
On her third pregnancy.

>>47571420
the best addition from the manga

>>47571025
I can see how.

>>47571570

>>47548327
Piccaso masterpiece.

>>47570738
I think she would make an extremely fun fun drinking buddy. Have horrible days at our respective jobs, then get hammered together at a bar on Niijima. She'd start rambling about being a witch, and I'd pretend to be in awe before she fell asleep on the counter. Then that usual weird old guy named "Genshi-jan" would pick her up.

>>47572002
cats do leave a mark...

>>47571791
Stupid sexy Lion... seducing the servants.
Needs correction.

>>47548498
It's the most thematically fitting.

I was driving all day and couldn't draw a Jeshika until now. But never fear, I've obtained a secret weapon that with UPGRADE future Jeshikas

>>47572303
>filename
If you're gonna draw Jessie every day, maybe YOU should design her evil state.

beato

BEATO.

>>47571025

>>47572409
>>47572395
Are we playing an abstract version of 20 questions?

>>47572463
It was a thing from the seacats threads. Anon would blurt out "beato" and then someone else would post the first picture.

>>47564910
Ange would be the kind of girl to say she only likes them big even though she's never actually seen one before.

>>47572525
Then let the legend come back to life.

>>47572366

>>47572559
Well, it's about as much effort as Ryukishi would have put in.

>>47572559
Evil Jessica be like "I think my life has equal weight to the aloof servant I have a crush on and will not sacrifice it for anyone."

>>47572550
Yes.

I just want Jessica to have her revenge.

>>47572633
I want Jessica to experience "It's a Wonderful Life" except instead of coming out of the experience valuing her friends and family she just hates everyone

>>47572667
That sounds like a gloriously miserable story, but I think that someone should be there to save her soul. The most unlikely person.

I want to fuck Jessica in the pussy while she is ovulating.

>>47572705
No way, fag.

>>47572688
The empirically weakest part of Yasu who jobs to someone lusting after George will save the day this time! His name means Jesus!

>>47572705
SHE'S ONLY 18 YOU SICK FUCK

Blood splatter Princess Massacre was a red herring? But her name was so gentle!

>>47572777

Jessica really did have quite a lot of avenues for more development that weren't explored, I guess she wasn't very popular perhaps? She didn't explore witchery really despite being one of the major female characters. It's a shame because she was one of my early favorites

>>47573266
I have a more cynical view. You can't explore Jessica without casting Yasu in a much more negative light, so R07 chose simply not to focus on it and just gave the shippers scenes of Jessica reuniting with Kanon and pretending that that's happy when episode 6 empirically shows it to be Yasu's weakest "love."

>>47573266
She's really the biggest question mark still left on the series. Any kind of continuation should address it.

>>47573329
Please understand, she's a vain retard heiress and probably represents the sin of ignorance or some shit I dunno

>>47573266
Jessica is a huge blank area to fill with anything that any theory needs really

>>47573266
>I guess she wasn't very popular perhaps?
she regularly outranked shannon in the character polls along with kanon so I don't think that's the case

my schizoid take is that jessica's irrelevance and kanon being the "weakest" are the result of retcons pulling plot relevance away from kanon and onto shannon, probably starting around ep6 but certainly in full swing around ep7. and don't give me "nuh uh shkanon wus planned foreverz!!", the problem isn't shkanon it's who was chosen to be the "face" of it.

>>47573540
I think pretty nice blonde girls with no secret snuff fetishes and/or no extreme mental turmoil over what was a social faux paus by someone else at worst just gives R07 the 'ick.

>>47558792
Look at this submissive little bitch in chains, presenting himself to his master

>>47573813
>just gives R07 the 'ick
As it should!
If Ryu is lurking right now: YAS SLAY KING :nail_polish:

>>47574052
Personally, I like when fundamentally good characters get some kind of reward that isn't an elaborate allegory for the magical cope land that appears when you ritualistically slaughter enough people.

>>47574143
>I like when fundamentally good characters get some kind of reward
Maybe 07th isn't the right fit for you

>>47574197
Well personally the token psycho characters aren't as bad as fucks like Yasu and Hanyuu who are deeply flawed but only if you read between the lines since the story overtly paints them as sympathetic. But if you're a psycho in WtC you're usually having a good time yeah.

>>47574369
You aren't as enlightened as you think you are. Most people who sympathize with Sayo aren't oblivious about how fucked up she is. You're trying to shoehorn this narrative that Sayofags are all deceived by evil old Ryukishi and his favorite psycho waifu, but that's simply not the case. You're just unable to sympathize with her.

>>47574501
Eh six in one half a dozen in the other. I doubt R07 intended anyone to be as unsympathetic as I am towards Yasu, but it's interesting that the dynamic of Umineko Question Arc is to question big theatrical performances to discern the meaning behind them, and then to have the biggest show of all be a lament of Yasu's tragedy... just kinda makes me view sympathy towards Yasu as the biggest dog and pony show in a series rife with em.

>The lies that are mixed with kindness
>Are still kindness covered lies, right?

>>47574501
Sayo's capacity for evil (are we allowed to use that word again?) is technically untested, but Hanyuu is a fucking bitch. I sympathize with Sayo, and she's my favorite character, but I just can't with the goat.

>>47574625
Being unable to understand what's conveyed behind the scenes because you don't engage with the story enough to the point you have to be emotionally swayed by Ryukishi like easily fooled cattle isn't comparable to actually understanding Sayo's struggles, like her body dysmorphia or her inability to express her emotions, which I'd claim is the most significant factor in making her relatable to a lot of readers, and to build an authentic emotional connection to her character that isn't reliant on ignorance or obliviousness. Calling it a dog and pony show sounds juvenile and implies you haven't thoroughly engaged with the story. I genuinely don't understand how you can read the VN, dislike the overarching point and still come to this thread. Is it boredom?

>>47574788
to be fair, I only argued for Sayo. We're on /seacat/ after all hehe.

>>47574910
[legal disclaimer - I'm not that guy]
Bro, I love Sayo, but some people understandably just want to grab the back of the witch's head by the hair and slam her forehead into her plate of cookies. You can like Umineko and hate her character. It's not an invalid take to not sympathize with another (fictional) person.

>>47574961
My point was that the other anon calling it a dog and pony show implies he didn't get the point of Umineko or simply doesn't like it. It's not like Ryukishi was subtle about what he was trying to convey with Umineko.
>You can like Umineko and hate her character.
You can like Umineko and still miss the point of what the story is trying to get at. If you call it a dog and pony show, you missed.

>>47575139
Nope. The audience decides the "point" for themselves. The second you start accusing them of missing it, you've lost the plot.

>>47573884
teacher dlanor is probablly one of the few good things to come out of reiwa, alongside kururu, sakiko and... no actually i think that's it
i mean just look at her she's fucking adorable

>>47575231
>failwa
I didnt actually read it

>>47575332
perfectly reasonable, that shit sucks

>>47573266
Look up moonchan theory. It was an alternate theory back in the day. Since Jessica's tarot was The Moon, it lined up with a bit of dialogue from Ep 2 between Kanon and Beatrice:
>There’s no way I can kill you with my powers. ……You are the moon. There’s no way I can smash the moon by throwing a rock. ……However, in order to manifest yourself, you had to reflect your image on the surface of the water.
Furthermore, Jessica's bio on Ryukishi's website says she was waiting for someone on a white horse.
pic rel.

>>47573884
>>47575231
Gertrude is such a kuudere and I love it.

god i fucking hate umineko so much

Mental retardation above me.