/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I don't like chen or ran.

>>4737852
I love Yukari. She is delicious GILF.

A loli Yukari is fine too.

Yukari is an ass man.

mary is love

Yukari isn't the smartest Touhou or the strongest Touhou. It's safe to assume, however, that she is the oldest Touhou. Not counting PC-98 characters, of course.

>OHH STUPID OLD HAG SHITTY TOUHOU YUKA COULD KICK HER ASS.
That's /jp/ being fucktarded, as usual.

Every Touhou has been trolled here as of late.
Just disregard it and focus on what you like.

>>4737915

I'm new to /jp/ because go to /v/.

I am not the faggotry kind of /v/. Anyways.

No matter what the fuck anyone says, Yukari and Suika will be my favorites. That is all.

I don't hate Yukari, but I hate shit like this picture.

>>4737915
I don't talk about my favorite Touhou at all on /jp/, so she's never been put through any shit. I hate that I have to suppress things on /jp/ because /jp/ likes to just fuck up everything.

I would like to impregnate Yukari.

>>4737929

There's a graph lying around here somewhere.

/v/ mixed with /jp/ is bad.
>These two are the majority of /jp/
/a/ mixed with /jp/ is bad.

Then there is the minority of pure and innocent posters. I am also one of the many migrating from /v/ for the day, so I guess I'm impure.

>>4737929
What the fuck? We're more than willing to talk about your favorite Touhou. You aren't going to get trolls swarming all over them just for mentioning her name.

Unless she's Cirno, Aya, Sanae, probably a few others I'm forgetting. In which case you should talk about her anyway because haters gonna hate.

Yukari is a slut. I bet you could get into her pants in under a minute if you said she looked young or something.

>>4737951

Yeah. I've been here for just a few hours and already noticed the hated.

Suika is not hated at all.

Yukari is never posted except delicious porn.

Reimu is usually the dominant one in these Cirno/Aya rape/destruction pictures.

Yukari is hot.

Raise the flag, this thread is pure.

The impure are at the Cirno thread.

>>4737951
>What the fuck? We're more than willing to talk about your favorite Touhou. You aren't going to get trolls swarming all over them just for mentioning her name.
No, fuck that, she's already had a close call. I'm going to become glorious at art, and I will make doujinshi of her.

Besides, there's no point making a topic if it's just going to be an imagedump or stupid meme-slinging.

To me, the best Touhou topics on /jp/ nowadays are game-related - while it used to be okay to talk about the characters before, it's damn near impossible now without it turning into a meme shithole or a stupid porndump.

>>4737975
>porndump

I fail to see the problem

>>4737975
Get the fuck out of /jp/.

>>4737975

Come on. We're cool here.

I'll say my favorites if you say your one.

Marisa, Patchy, and Sakuya. There. Now say yours.

>>4737852
>Why is there so much Yukari hate?
Nobody here hates Yukari.

>Everyone likes Chen and Ran
Understandable.

>but then they hear about the other Yakumo and it's all OHH STUPID OLD HAG
The old hag thing is a meme. It's not meant to be taken seriously.

>YUKA COULD KICK HER ASS.
The only person that says this is a user that goes by the name Suigin. All of his arguments were thoroughly refuted. That is all.

>>4737925
>Hat included
Oh you.

>>4737975
If you think there are things worth discussing, you need to actually mention them. People aren't going to magically know what you want to discuss unless you say something.

Good luck on your doujinshi aspirations anyway. Even if you do hate 99% of the content of this board.

>>4738024


Wait, you actually think /jp/ will disgust what one guy wants?

>>4738030
No, but there's a much better chance if he tries than if he doesn't.

>>4738038

Really, he should just say who it is.

No one here really draws the crap. They look it up on a site.

>>4738024
I did mention them before. I didn't get any replies.

It's silly to think that everyone is going to want to talk about the exact same shit as I do. I'd get more kicks and greater satisfaction talking to myself about the Touhouverse.

You want to know what one of my favorite Touhous is? Alice. LOOK HOW NICE EVERYTHING UNFOLDS FOR HER.

So I must protect my #1 favorite Touhou.

>>4738054
Eh, lots of people like Alice. I was expecting one of the Aki sisters.

>>4738054

Pfft, she doesn't get ripped apart frequently.

But when she does, it's still not that bad.

Most of it is "SHE HAS A WORTHLESS LIFE, SHE SHOULD KILL HERSELF"

Yukari is still pretty popular among most of us, the problem comes more from fans hyping up her strength and making her out to be the mother fucking Flash of Touhou; able to achieve anything with her poorly defined powers and ought to be able to defeat anyone.

It ignores a key part of Yukari Yakumo, she's a schemer. A direct show of force simply isn't Yukari's style, it never had been and never will be. Sure it's fun for doujin artists like Chado to draw up a massive DBZ style fight, or for neck beards to argue about her capabilities, but the thing that makes Yukari so attractive as a character in the first place is her evasive twisted nature. Nothing she does is what it seems, schemes within schemes Yukari plots on the very long term in ways only a few could begin to comprehend.

For a true powerhouse character with combat ability, you need to look to youkai like Suika and Yuka, Yuka especially because of her direct nature. For a powerful but direct mastermind you've got Kanako who is clearly working towards her own agenda but it's not exactly hidden. In comparison Yukari's methods are convoluted to the point where it borders (oh ho) on insanity, she approaches problems from completely unexpected angles obfuscating her objectives with both clear and hidden feints.

The point is, when someone fights Yukari, she is never really serious, often smiling as she laughs off a defeat and retreats having spun the circumstances to her favour. Yukari has never been a direct force kind of youkai. She is a schemer by nature and her powers only support this.

>>4738068
She's not the one he was talking about, just one of his faves.

And yeah, she gets trolled pretty hard here.

>>4737852
nice teetees there, yukarin

>>4738075
Good point, never really thought of it that way.

>>4738075

My favorite Yukari is the one holding the fan in front of her mouth going "OH HO HO HO!"

I'm trying to think of something original about Alice and failing. Help.

If anyone needs proof that Yukari is a schemer, look no further than Silent Sinner in motherfucking Blue.

>>4738092
What do you mean by "original"?

>>4738092

She's Alice.

>>4738075

>implying that Yukari is Gensokyo's Machiavelli

I am...OKAY with this!

>>4738100
Something that hasn't been said hundreds of times.

>>4738113
No, Kanako is Gensokyo's machiavelli. She's lawful evil to the core.

>>4738119

Ambition isnt evil, brah.

How does Alice control dolls even in places where she can't see? Can she see out their eyes?

>>4738115
I'm not sure what the you're looking for. There's nothing particularly wrong with using an overdone idea if you can wrap it up and present it well. There's a LOT of Touhou doujinshi that were neat in concept, just poorly executed. If you can present an idea well enough, even people that don't like the idea by itself can enjoy it as a whole.

Alice's personality isn't very defined in canon when you look at the series as a whole, but she's been shaping up into a more consistent state lately.

>>4738131
It is when you're willing to prop up the corrupt tengu society to achieve it.

>>4738115
She's the daughter of Satan?

>>4737925
>I do not know anything about poofy hats

As for the breast size... it's questionable. boundary of DD/DDD and all that jazz.

>>4738119


She's more like Joseph Fouche, really, but you've got a point.

>>4738075

In turn, she helps to make Yuyuko more interesting then she may be otherwise. Though Yukari we see a lot of her interactions with Yuyuko and how the two of them seem to have a unspoken understanding, they are both very intelligent but have amusing ways of showing it.

Yukari is rather playful, seemingly uncaring most of the time but seems to revel in her reputation as a schemer. When she offers a plan, has a good idea on who will actually follow it and who will attempt to see through it and act differently, it's almost like a game to her.

Then we have Yuyuko who is much more laid back, in a similar vein she has a odd sense of humour and will lead people around her to think she's a bit of a ditzy ghost acting on impulse, perhaps sometimes she really is acting on impulse but more often then not she's just not explaining the logic behind her thinking, instead pretending it's just a whim she'll push on to advance her friends plan without even having to have discussed it.

Behind every successful border youkai, is a great tenko.

I actually don't like Chen, Ran, and Yukari.

I especially hate Chen. That motherfucking earring just makes me rage.

>>4738146

I love Yuyoko. Super Ditzy acting ghost who actually has a "just as keikaku" plan for probably everything? Awesome.

>>4738075
I hate her plothax. She goes beyond scheming and into Kira-esque Mary Suedom.

>>4738156
>"just as keikaku"
>>>/a/

I wish the fact that Yuyuko was such an awesome ghost that the Yama appointed her to her post at the Netherworld was mentioned more.

>>4738164
sounds like lies to me

>>4738085

I've explained this once or twice to /tg/ before, Yukari gets a reputation for being a powerhouse around the community, but it's pretty clear that ZUN has been trying to present her as a schemer since the beginning. SSiB supports this idea and further went on to show that Yukari isn't all powerful, hate the moon bitches as much as we like, the dominance of Lunarian technology combined with their spiritual power has been around since Imperishable Night so it's not completely unreasonable that they are a serious threat to Gensokyo if things were to get out of hand. You could even argue that Yukari could have won or at least survived a fight against them, but what would happen to her beloved Gensokyo? In any case, she schemed her way around it from a start and the whole idea was nothing more then a bit of petty revenge and typical youkai acting up.

I'm not even offended at the idea Yukari could get her ass kicked by Suika or several other of the powerhouses wandering Gensokyo. I've always felt the idea of Yukari as the ultimate youkai as being rather over the top, she's much more interesting as a particularly clever schemer with a strong ability in thinking outside of the box (with a power that perfectly matches). Sort of like the Patrician in Discworld, her methods may seem like insanity, but they have a odd sort of twisted logic that works when looked at from a big enough scale and maybe from a funny angle.

This image is proof that Yukari is the big boss of Gensokyo. When Marisa mentioned why spellcard battles were needed in order to defeat the more powerful youkai in gensoyo, a picture of some of the deadliest youkai was shown and Yukari's face was in the background. That looks like the mark of a boss to me.

>>4738183


>Yukari isn't all powerful

No weaknesses or blind spots. NO WEAKNESSES

>>4738183
I keep missing /tg/'s toohoo threads. ;_;

>>4738186

>...like a boss

dodging bullets
LIKE A BOSS
focused fire
LIKE A BOSS

>>4738186
Wasn't Yukari the person that suggested spellcard rules to Reimu? Or did I make that up.
>>4738174
It isn't. Check Yuyuko's PMiSS entry.

>>4738158

Practically any important character in Touhou can fall to the claim of Mary Sue level dickery. Reimu wins all her fights against clearly superior opponents? Marisa is extremely popular among youkai and people alike? Aya is a extremely powerful youkai who let the heroines defeat her, the fastest in Gensokyo and runs her own surprisingly popular tabloid?

The setting is practically built for this kind of thing.

>>4738201
Reimu would be so dead if she dodged bullets like a boss.

>>4738158

You want Mary Sue, look at the 2 moon bitches from SSiB

>>4738193
If you like Touhou, lurk /tg/ and refresh /jp/ occasionally.
Most of /jp/'s Touhou threads are just imagedumps.

>>4738210
Stop mentioning them, we've had way too fucking many moonbitch threads lately and I don't want this thread turning into another.

>>4738204

Probably why I feel so bad for all the butt monkies in Gensokyo (China, Udonge, Etc)

I dislike Yukari because I only like :smug: in my Touhous when they get fairly routine comeuppance, like Aya.

If Yukari were knocked on her ass more I'd probably dislike her less.

>>4738189

Yeah, coming from Akyu, a gradually weakening reincarnation of Gensokyo's archivist. I'm told she's the best source on understanding notoriously tricky lying youkai and how to defeat them, being a great warrior she is.

Seriously, from the look of a human youkai exterminator, pretty much all the highest tier youkai characters have huge DON'T ATTACK THIS ONE warnings on them. Suika can throw fucking mountains.

>>4738211
I've been refreshing /tg/ occasionally for hours now and all I've gotten in return is Warhammer and mildly interesting threads. I must be missing something.

While I do 100% follow the Yukari is a roundabout schemer that isn't direct in showing off her capabilities and powers, I also like to think she's balls-to-the-wall powerful.

When something sleeps all the time, you know they're just saving up badass to use for when the world is on fire.

>>4738218
>butt monkeys

Does your mother know you are a homosexual?

>>4738221

Luckily the super hax youkai are friendly, or at least leave humans alone.

Seems like its a maturity thing really. I imagine the older youkai look at the young youkai who attack humans and go "Ah youth~ I used to be so foolish too once."

>>4738223
There's a lot of Warhammer 40k stuff, but I don't know anything about it, and I'm not a fan of sci-fi.

>>4738204
Meh, most of the characters, apart from Aya and gapbitch, can keep their Mary Suedom out of the annoying range. I think it would be hard to dislike Reimu apart from maybe overexposure.

>>4738233

Nope, just addicted to tropes :3

>>4738233

I wish to pat the Sakuya on the head.

What does /tg/ have Touhou wise?

>>4738241

>emoticon
>tvtropes

>>4738248

Well, as a /tg/ regular, I can say /touhougames/ isnt as common anymore.

There would occasionally be dumps, rules on how to make touhou for a campaign, and also making DnD 4E power cards with touhou images.

>>4738183
ZUN explicitly stated the Hakurei border couldn't be circumvented by the lunarians; hence the reason why gensokyo wasn't in any danger of a lunarian invasion. Also, when you speak of the "great" lunarian army in truth you're only referring to the Watatsuki sisters. Everyone else in the lunarian army is pretty much on par with an above average human.

Also, this is just a testament to how weak every character in the Touhouverse is in general. The humans on earth were actually winning against the lunarians despite the fact that a) they didn't have any magic, b) the lunarians had the hometown advantage, and c) the lunarians took them off guard with a sneak attack that initiated the war. The only reason why the humans lost is because they weren't able to find the lunar capital. Oh and by humans we're obviously referring to the American military. The same folks that struggled to secure a nation of poor sand niggers.

>>4738252
>Fallout

>>4738252

Emoticons piss off so many people on 4chan, so I use them from time to time.

>>4738241
>tropes
>:3

I didn't ask why you were homosexual, I asked if your mother knows.

>>4738234
Hell, you could probably be BROs with all the stage 4-6 bosses...

Well, apart from pic related. She won't dally with rabble.

>>4738264

See? >>4738265

Anywho. I still wonder if Yukari lost the invasion on purpose.

>>4738226

Well, she's clearly among the strongest in Gensokyo though in my mind it's best to have a top tier of characters rather then say any one of them is better then the others, at those levels where everyone has retarded instant death powers you've got to take a step back and realise comparing them gets a bit silly.

That said, looking at it comically isn't a problem. It's nice to joke about Yukari being the mother fucking FLASH but when you get down to it alot of Yukari hate comes from people who insist she's unbeatable when really Yukari is the kind of person who doesn't see defeat in the same way as most would and finds ways to extract opportunity from it, even if it wasn't part of her plans.

>>4738261
Can you please state your source for this shit? It's some PMiSS entry nobody ever bothers to read isn't it?

>>4738274

I dunno, Orin would probably look at me funny.

Although I'd love to visit the SDM, as much as it would probably kill me.

>>4738238
From my experience with StB and DS, Aya hardly seems annoying like that.

Sure she says a lot of shit, and she doesn't attack in the two games because she doesn't want her bullets to show up in the photos, but SHE DIES A LOT.

It's like how Marisa pretends to be hot shit, making it seem like she's got a natural tendency for magic, when she's really busting her ass to get those stars and sparks flying.

Difference is Aya can't back it up with anything.

"I'm such hot shit, I'm not even going to shoot at them."

"FUCK. I GOT HIT."

AGAIN? I'LL JUST TAKE NORMAL PICTURES NOW, I DON'T NEED ANY NICE SHOTS OR ANYTHING ANYMORE."

"FUCK."

"GODDAMNIT."

"I'D LOOK LIKE AN ASSHOLE IF I DECIDED TO USE MY BULLETS NOW, WHEN I WAS BRAGGING ABOUT THIS SHIT A WHILE AGO."

"FUCK, IT'S STARTING TO ACTUALLY HURT."

>>4738261

I think its more along the lines of "We have the ability to carpet bomb you" than the weakness of the touhou characters.

Nothing is more boring than conversations about what is and isn't canon

>>4738277

common theory is that the original invasion was done on purpose against the clearly stronger Lunarian forces in order to teach the youkai some humility and make them understand their limits.

>>4738264
>>4738252
Yeah, emoticons, message board, /[Board name with a capital letter]/, and several other things are 100% guaranteed response getters. How can you NOT troll with them, /JP/? :D

>>4738294
Stupid theory, you mean.

>>4738291

I think its kind of funny in an ironic way. A reporter with an ego problem?

>>4738291
Meh, going by that, it took Reimu like a million tries to worm out the truth that evil goddess toohoo fed the sun god to Utusho.

>>4738284
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

>>4738303
>A reporter with an ego problem?
I'd be more surprised by a reporter WITHOUT an ego problem.

>>4738285
Okay, Orin is a dick. Remi is a jerk. Sakuya wouldn't give you the time of day. Utsuho depends on if she is in evil mastermind mode or birdbrain one-track mind mode...

>>4738293

not so much a HURR DURR, THIS IS CANON thread, so much as a discussion about the characters and what we feel is their best representations. A lot of this is supposition as most hasn't been explicitly stated.

Canon does come into it, but more as 'this is what the setting says, so we work things out from this'. Part of the point is to say what elements we don't overly like, for example when people take a character trait too far or hype up their favourite to say she can't lose.

>>4738313

Well what I mean is, she is the kind of reporter who is supposed to be just watching scenes, not making them.

If she was like a news pundit, yeah. A photographer? Not so much. It'd be like being a cameraman with an ego problem.

>>4738261

>Also, this is just a testament to how weak every character in the Touhouverse is in general. The humans on earth were actually winning against the lunarians despite the fact that a) they didn't have any magic, b) the lunarians had the hometown advantage, and c) the lunarians took them off guard with a sneak attack that initiated the war. The only reason why the humans lost is because they weren't able to find the lunar capital. Oh and by humans we're obviously referring to the American military. The same folks that struggled to secure a nation of poor sand niggers.

Stay frosty.

>>4738329
Orin's a dick? She didn't seem so bad with Marisa/Alice.

>>4738338

She does kind of threaten to burn you alive.

I know youkai are all talk but...when you are practically IN HELL, it kind of ups the evil.

Plus I saw that one god damn comic with Orin and Alice's doll.

>>4738335
No one's going to notice a few more craters in the moon. We'd just bomb the fuck out of it and call it a day.

>>4738333
Pfft. Every reporter wants to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. They all have giant-ass egos.

>>4738346
That was sort of mean, but she seems playful.

>>4738362

Okay I suppose she wouldnt be so bad.

But I'd like to have a certain miko nearby, just to be safe.

>>4738346
Former Hell! Former seems like a much nicer place. Corrupt oni, sinners not even wanting to leave... sounds good.

New Hell, on the other hand, is the terrible place Hell should be.

>>4738274

but not Satori though. ;_;

>>4738338
>>4738346
She's got the chummy psychopath thing going on. I'd rather hang out with Yuka.

>>4738376

Don't post that ever again, please.

>>4738353

Good plan.

The trick lies in getting your payload there.

>>4738264
So let me get this straight, you shitpost on purpose just for the sake of getting a reaction out of people? What is that word we use to describe people that do that? Oh wait, "trolls."

I'll never understand people like you; why would you on purposely shit on the place you enjoy hanging out at? And I'm not even referring to your usage of emoticons. Do you want us to become another /b/? Do you like /b/? If so, why aren't you on /b/?

>>4738376

Don't post this ever again, please.

>>4738376
Unless Satori is going to reenact that rape nightmare pasta with me, she can stay the fuck in hell.

>>4738379
I have no idea how that would work, but I'm mildly interested in reading a /k/ thread on the subject.

The only thing clearly canon is that Yukarin is 17 years old.
That is all.

>>4738380

No, I said occasionally. I dont do it often, just when I know it will rile up someone really bad.

I've been contributing to this thread alot actually. It just amuses me how asspained people get over a simple emoticon.

I dont understand why everyone hates Satori...

Her mindreading didnt seem THAT bad.

>>4738386
Right. Koishi isn't a mean person! She's very cheerful and there's nothing wrong with her at all.

>>4738380
u mad.

If the occasional emoticon counts as shit posting, then so does your childish overreaction.

Tell you what guys, Yukari is so awesome she could open two gaps next to one another AND THEN STAND ON THE SOLES OF HER OWN FEAT.

When Maribel sleeps she dreams that she is Yukari and when Yukari sleeps she dreams she is Maribel. Because Yukari is nocturnal and is known to sleep during the day neither of them would normally be awake at the same time. Maribel is strangely able to cross the border into Gensokyo while dreaming. Maribel's clothes are also very similar to Yukari's clothing from Perfect Cherry Blossom. Gensokyo itself was created in Maribel's dreams.

>>4738409

>>4738407
You saw how she was using it? She's a dick.

>>4738401
But it's impossible for us to know whether it's a newcomer or a troll to the board doing that. And we have to let our new posters know what's preferred here.

So yeah, you do your thing, we'll keep doing ours.

I wouldn't mind taking a trip to hell.

>Because Yukari is nocturnal
Huh?

>>4738416
Dunno why you keep posting that; I've got Depth Bomb favorited already.

>>4738399

17, forever~

>>4738399
>Yukarin is 17 years old.
in body perhaps, but she has lived for a few generations at least

>>4738430

>>4738435

Ah hahaha I fucking love stupid blind slut.

>>4738414

You will never know just how much I hate this theory, but I'll just tell you it's a goddamn lot.

>>4738410
Reading comprehension error. I explicitly stated I wasn't referring to your usage of the emoticon itself but the motives behind your usage of them.

>>4738220
Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with her eyes

>>4738442

;_;

>>4738442
You'll need to write at least three paragraphs (decent size ones!) to have a chance. Please, get on it, I'm eager to know how much you hate it.

The words-to-gaptits ratio in this thread is obscenely large.This needs rectification.

>>4738471
Please don't.

>>4738459
There's nothing to really discuss.

There's nothing saying it's explicitly true or false, and there's plenty of "information" that can be used to support or attack both sides.

>>4738474

Why not?

well, I suppose the best of the discussion is dead now.

>>4738489
Guess so.

Goodnight, /jp/.

>>4738481
Discussion is far rarer than imagedumps.

... fine

>>4738501
>>4738499
>>4738489
You guys are so weak.

For what it's worth, Yukari is my favorite Touhou character.

Yukarin image dump HOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4738501

We had a good run. May as well end in a bang.

>>4738505
I know, right?

I love daddy

>>4738401
>It just amuses me how asspained people get over a simple emoticon.
Count yourself lucky you're not a tripfriend because with your degree of intelligence I would have filtered you after your first use of said emoticon. If this wasn't already obvious to you I'll explain it. The small minority of good users on 4chan in general frown upon such behavior—much in the same way as they look down upon bad grammar, forced memes, and trolls. Ask yourself this question, why does 4chan's global rules number 3 & 6 explicitly state that indecipherable text and low quality post aren't welcomed here? mAybe itS becacus go0dgrammer make's it easiest 2read as apposed 2 The tipe of grammer you'd would seeon youtube or gaia!!!1 xD

>>4738505

partially true, but I've seen enough threads to know when the discussion that it was having is turning to trolling and plain bitching about unrelated matters. We had a good run, better to abandon it and move to a new thread.

>>4738535
?

Every time someone tries to post an example of indecipherable grammar I always read it perfectly at my normal reading rate.

>>4738561
>derp
you an addict or something bitch?

Discussions > imagedumps

Alright, fuck /tg/. I've got almost everything on the frontpage hidden and nothing good pops up. I've done this most of the day; so I think it's safe to say I'm not missing shit.

>>4738546
>Your expressive usage of text offends my delicate senses, mostly because I am outrageous faggot

Seeing people get their panties in a twist over some dude deciding to use ":3" is always entertaining

>>4738576
Everyone here agrees with you, but you sure as fuck aren't going to start any discussions with a shitpost like that.

>>4738075
OUR CRAFTWORLD HAS NEED OF YOUR KIND.

>>4738577

with /tg/ I find it's hit or miss. Sometimes there are good discussions but they are often rare and vary greatly from topic to topic.

I've had some good Touhou discussions there, but they are rare examples, most Touhou posted on /tg/ these days is either a troll or touhoufag posting about 4th Ed D&D optimisation which isn't my thing. Very rarely there are excellent discussions on the setting and characters, some of my best discussions were in those threads, but they don't come often and are generally trolled most the time people try.

>>4738657
Yeah, only Touhou I saw on the board was a touhoufag thread. He dumped Shou instead of Tewi for a character that focused on boosting ally luck. Dunno what the fuck prompted that choice.

Not that I minded since Shou is one of my favorites, but still.

I love me some Yakumos

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>>4738204
>Marisa is extremely popular among youkai

What?

Wait a minute. If the Lunarians were having a hard time beating back a human army (US Military) and Yukari lost the Lunarian invasion....

Wouldn't that make humans (maybe outside ones) pretty much bad ass?

>>4738757
She's a pimp ze

>>4738797
Modern humans don't believe in miracles. Yorihime's completely shut down.

>>4738797

we've known this forever, never forget 1969 ;_;

>>4738797

god bless America!

>>4738797
That barrier's there for a reason, you know...

>>4738812
1969 Americans probably weren't the most devout atheists.

>>4738812
>>4738818
>>4738827
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>>4738857
So basically you're telling me that outsider humans are more dangerous than youkai?

>>4738812
Outsiders could just 'unthink' youkai. Hell they went to Gensokyo because humans stopped believing in them.

I like Yukari and her huge titties OP

>>4738872
>more dangerous than youkai

There are some humans (serial killers etc) that would make youkai cringe. Youkai get a bad rap cause they eat human flesh/souls etc. Guess what? Humans eat other humans as well. Some tribes still practice cannibalism to this day. We humans torture other humans, we rape, we kill.

Outsiders may make Yuka's supposed insanity seem tame by comparison.

>>4737850
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>>4738888
I don't think they can kill them with thought, just reduce their powers. And this is the moon. You aren't going to disbelieve a major fantasy stronghold away.

>>4737925
I fail to see the problem here

>>4738850
>That barrier's there for a reason, you know...

Not to protect the outside world, but to protect Gensokyo from the outside world.

I think Yukari is the most elegant touhou.

>>4738915
Guess what? Humans eat other animals as well.

>>4738939
Yuka in Gensokyo = Strong, flower loving youkai

Yuka in outside world = Just some lady that REALLY likes flowers?

>>4738967
Really!? You're shitting me!!!!

>>4738939

No, it just means the Lunarians and the Earth had to duke it out the way Japan and the United States did during WWII. The Lunarians were obviously unprepared for such a strong retaliatory strike. And there's that matter of Kaguya still not having returned.

>>4738965
I think Yukari is the most sluttiest Touhou.

The lunar war is a testament to how much ZUN fails at storytelling. How is it even possible that the American military of the late 60s were on par with the lunarian military? It's just not possible. Let's do a comparison, shall we. America as a nation has only existed for 2 centuries. Eirin alone is at least 10 times older than the USA. Since lunarians live longer that means they're inherently more productive and smarter than us. By the time we managed to invent the lightbulb the lunarians probably had fusion technology. And this isn't even taking into consideration of how much faster innovations would occur with the help of magic. Not to mention the fact that we humans (even to this day) are hopeless in a space environment. In WW2 we struggled to get our guys on a beach in Normandy. The time, money, and effort it would have took to bring 20 (let alone 200) troops to the moon back in the 70s would have bankrupted even the richest of Nations. Not to mention the fact that once these untrained space soldiers got on the moon they would have been.... What the fuck am I even saying. This is retarded.

Either I'm overestimating the power of the lunarians or ZUN is a shitty storyteller.

>How is it even possible that the American military of the late 60s were on par with the lunarian military?

Because human are hot blooded and lunarian army is made up of moonbitches.

>>4739135
Considering Eientei is described as a timeless place, I bet they haven't advanced much at all since Yukari tried to invade them. Especially without Eirin. And they weren't that tough then.

>>4739135
or just assume the simplest explaination

boolits > magiks

>>4739159
Even if you're going to pull that, Lunarians had bullets centuries before humans got them.

>>4738797
>and Yukari lost the Lunarian invasion....
Yukari didn't lose anything. All she did was send a lot of powerful youkai to invade the moon. No blood was shed by her hands. Yukari is a 17 year old girl and would never do something like that..

>>4739159
or just assume the simplest explanation.

Neil Armstrong fucked the moon bitches into submission.

Yukari's killed time and time again to forge Gensokyo, bro. Even if you ignore the millennia before that, her hands are stained red.

I have heard a lot of talk on /jp/ about the war between Earth and the Lunarians, but I have never seen anyone point to any canon material that talks about it. Could someone please give me a reference?

>>4739163
And not just any bullets. Bullets that were mixed with magic to do all type of novelty things such as change direction during propulsion. These are the same magic bullets that are strong enough to defeat youkai.

>>4739135

You're not underestimating the Lunarians, you're overestimating the difficulty of dropping soldiers on the Moon's surface. Hypothetically speaking, in the ZUNIverse the Apollo launches as we knew them were a simple cover-up for the main events Moonside. The main powers of the Lunarians were uninvolved, and the skirmishes fought were between the Lunar Defense Corps and NASA.
We've seen in SSIB that they are strong enough, but not ridiculously overpowered like, say, a Space Marine. They're on the level with your average first-world footsoldier.

The conflict was not entirely unlike the Soviet-Afghan wars, if you substitute the Afghans for the Americans and the Soviets for the Lunarians.

>>4739135
But now we humans have the LHC!!!!!!!!!

>>4739188
You're forgetting the essential motivation for the war: rape. You can't rape the dead as easily as you can rape the living.

Nah, he's overestimating the Lunarians. Eirin was prettymuch it as far as technological advancement went for them: They don't call her the Brain of the Moon for nothing.

>>4739197

Corpses can't bite your dick off, unless you're dealing with zombies. Zombies sound....heretical.

>>4739183
Play the fucking games or read the wiki you piece of shit:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Kaguya_Houraisan#Imperishable_Night_-_.E3.82.AD.E3.83.A3.E3.83.A9.E8.A8
.AD.E5.AE.9A.txt

I apologize. My lack of sleep is getting to me. Also, don't read the wiki. True fans of the series like Touhou for its gameplay. The extra stories such as SSiB was created for lesbros and casual fans.

>>4739200
Yeah, with the exception of Eirin and the Watatsuki sisters, the Lunarians are really a pathetic bunch.

>>4739231

They grew decadent and self-absorbed in their imagined superiority. Such is the way of all governments that are allowed to prosper too long.

>>4739212
How can you say you're a fan if you can't even read the manga?

>>4737852
She's a smug manipulative bitch. And she likes eating humans.

>>4739212
>>4739272
How can you say you're a /jp/ user if you can't recite a primary vs secondary argument in your sleep? Shame on both of you.

>>4739272
Oh I dunno, maybe it's because I'm a fan of Touhou's gameplay and unlike most people from old /a/ I didn't get into Touhou because of IOSYS.

>How can you say you're a fan if you can't even read the manga?
When I first got into Touhou that 'manga' didn't exist.

>>4739293
You said you're tired. Go to bed.

>>4739288
Why would we want to repeat it? Do you want us (and /jp/ by extension) to be schematic and repetitive?

>>4739301
Yes. I would love for /jp/ to be schematic and repetitive if it repeated pure awesome.

>>4739318
>pure awesome
>primary vs secondary

Really, Anon? Really?

>>4739212
>Play the fucking games or read the wiki you piece of shit

That was quite rude, but thank you for the reply anyway.

The thing is, I have played the games and read the wiki, and it seems to me that talk of a lunar "war" could just be the Lunarians overreacting to the American moon landings. I'm just wondering how much concrete information we have about it.

>>4739335
This is Touhou. You're not going to get any concrete information. Ever.

>>4739335
The true Lunar war was between the Nazis and the Lunarians. The Nazis won.

>>4739329
/jp/ has never repeated pure awesome. That was my point. I should go to sleep.

>>4739348
The most concrete information is whatever makes me happiest.

>>4739335
It was a full fledged war and various lunarians, humans, and moon rabbits died as a result of it. The only reason why Reisen is still alive is because she abandoned her comrades.

Also, Eirin is a vicious murderer that killed her fellow lunarians in cold blood.

Reisen Udonge Inaba: A rabbit who abandoned her allies and fled the moon.

>>4739371
>>4739371

>Also, Eirin is a vicious murderer that killed her fellow lunarians in cold blood.

Ah, Lunarian hospitality. It has its charms.

>>4739371
Cold blood? Only very warm blood could make her go to such lengths for Kaguya.

Reading this thread made me sure 99% of you people don't read canon materials and just make up bullshit.

Lunarians kicked USA's army ass with ease, the only reason americans gained a foothold on the moon was because lunarians didn't want to fight them at first, they wanted to coexist. Read Kaguya's profile. Reisen fled the moon before the real war even begun. If lunarians fought for real Toyohime would just warp to Washington DC and erase it with her fan. Then do the same to every big american city.

And humans can't unthink youkai. It's stated a dozen of times in canon material that they can break the barrier any time without much consequences. And they often leave it to hunt humans in the outside world.

>>4739469
Oh fuck you, I am not having this argument again.

>>4739188
>They're on the level with your average first-world footsoldier.

What? Remember when rabbits fought SDM maids? One of them took them all. All moon rabbits soldiers are at similar level to Reisen and can use high level magic. That whole war was most likely 10 rabbits from the defense corp vs US army.

>>4739509
Uh, yeah... taking out a few fairies, that's totally something to brag about.

>>4739509
>>4739509
>>4739522

Fairies are negligible opponents, as mentioned.

I'm thinking that entire divisions of Corps personnel were involved here, at the least. The Earthmen actually have a slight advantage, what with the higher gravity on their planet, so they're that much more stronger than the Lunarians.

>>4739533

Yeah, that's why Yorihime survived getting kicked and punched many times by a freaking vampire. I'm sure typical earthmen is stronger that her...

>>4739702

Yorihime is -special-. We're talking about the average rank-and-file bunny here.

>>4739709

Like Reisen? I'm sure few american soldiers could beat her. No really...

And let's forget that lunarians have a space navy, anti-gravity tanks, all crazy weapons mentioned in PM and fans that can erase cities at a molecular level.

>>4739722

Yes. A Navy and a standing Army. They know how to use the tools of modern warfare. They have armor, air support, attacking craft, and artillery. The Empire of the Moon is canonically strong enough to defend the entire Solar System, I haven't forgotten.


But you have to remember that the Lunar Defense Corps alone held back the humans, and they were woefully unprepared, if SSIB is anything to go by.

>>4739472

What argument? Those are facts, stated by ZUN many times.

>>4739749
The argument about the interpretation of those facts.

I like yukari despite her being incredibly overrated
shes probably one of the best characters in the series

>>4739745
>Lunar Defense Corps

You mean those few bunnies who were too lazy to train and run away in panic when they saw what Remilia is capable of? If they were enough to beat americans that say much about how serious that "war" was.

Why would Reisen run away? Her ability means she'd likely just stand in the safest possible spot jamming enemy communications and other similar fuckery.

>>4739816

coward/
smart

I'm sure there's stuff in Cage in Lunatic Runagate that would answer this more definitively, but Inaba is funny and Inaba has Reisen fearing the moonbitches. I'm just going to blame them for her running away.