/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>47162549
I personally haven't read anything by watanabe yet, but I'll reply to you in this thread so someone knowledgeable can give you their opinion

>>47162577
Thanks anon. Waiting for some guidance from Watanabe fans

>>47155093
>it does have 3 DLCs you should try to grab
2 voice dramas + append episode, from what I gather? Did you include them in >>47156613 already?
It would be nice to have the DDL just for the append, since the base game has a healthy torrent on sukebei which I've got already. Thank you.

New Toriko game trial is up

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonourara/download.html

>>47162577
You didn't even read Aokana?

Must be hard being on the spectrum when both your sisters are psychopaths.

>>47162717
Soulful neko shirt.

>>47162577
you should start with harumade kururu because that is what you should start with
if you cannot get past the frontloaded avalanche of porn then that is because you are weak and undeserving of his genius

>>47162736
she gets roasted so hard for her fashion sense though, lmao

>>47162784
>roasted
?

>>47162743
>you are weak and undeserving of his genius
There are like only 50 people on the entire planet who have read all four

>>47162806
>weak and undeserving of his genius
thank you for backing up my statement

Which route of secret love wrote watanabe

>>47162806
I've only read one of the four. It was my understanding that once you've read one, you've essentially read all of them, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

>>47162577
>>47162593
I liked Akikuru the most but agree you should start with Harukuru.
>>47162837
Not really, but if you don't like the style then don't bother with the others.

>>47162837
in the sense that the same writer is going to have similar themes in a thematic quadrilogy, yes
but it's not an uchikoshi situation where the guy has exactly one twist in his arsenal and will keep repeating it until the day he dies or they gag him

>>47162886
>but it's not an uchikoshi situation where the guy has exactly one twist in his arsenal and will keep repeating it until the day he dies or they gag him
Aha, that's what I was alluding to. Nice, maybe I will bump those up my backlog some then.

>>47162869
>I liked Akikuru the most
not to be rude but why? everything interesting happened before the game even started, did you liked Kiss chan that much? I waited for Akikuru for almost 3 years, and was disappointed as fuck by it

>>47162806
>There are like only 50 people on the entire planet who have read all four
Really?
I recently read Harukuru and liked it.
I always thought this series of games was more popular.

>>47162896
not that guy but i would put akikuru pretty high up there purely for the banter, comedy, and character interactions, though i will admit to being a little let down by the ending even if i understood what it was going for
as the novelty of his tweests wear off, the quality of everything else goes up. spring might've had the most impact on me but i'd be hard pressed to say it was the most consistently entertaining, while fall only got a little lame towards the end

take this ancient image what i saved from the threads back when it came out

>>47162896
>did you liked Kiss chan that much
yes
I was also underwhelmed (apart from Kiss) when it first came out but when I played it a second time years later I loved the stupid comedy and interactions, it's peak ラブコメ

Kita e translation never ever ;_;

>>47162969
Just put your phone on a selfie stick and point it at your monitor.

Does anyone have a link to Shady Trial 日陰サバイバン(https://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ244256.html))
Apparently one anon posted a link back in 2020 (>>/jp/image/sIlR+uqKR3UGSzZJqyKOcg)) but that link is long dead and I can't find it anywhere else.

>>47163279
Are you going to perpetually keep asking this? I don't know, maybe look into >>46820458

>>47163312
I didn't know some of those links and it's unfortunately not in any of those either, but thanks for sharing.
I simply want my friend to stop pestering me about it every week or so

>>47163279
i'm afraid you're gonna have to drop 5 bucks anon

>>47163279
I don't want to be that guy, but for a five-year-old game that is only ten bucks and has less than 500 sales on DLsite buying it should always be the most reasonable way to get it.

>>47163549
>>47163555
That's what I told him, but he can't be bothered to pay up even though he unironically earns 1.5x the money I do

>>47162626
the link includes the game, update patch, and 3 DLCS including a soundtrack, sofmap drama cd, and append episode which is all that was ever made public to my knowledge, there's still a few drama cds missing

>>47163574
Be a good friend and buy him a copy.

>>47162626
that link includes the game, update patch, and 3 DLCS including a soundtrack, sofmap drama cd, and append episode which is all that was ever made public to my knowledge, there's still a few drama cds missing
pixeldrain /u/AEPmPQXu
here's just the DLCs

>>47164071
what giga vinnie is this

>>47164133
>vinnie
You have to go back.

>>47165023
we love vinnies here

>>47164133
What's a vinnie? VN? Gee why does everyone have to talk like a five-year-old nowadays

any way to rotate vn windows? asking for a friend.

>>47162577
>>47162593
I think there's no one clear best and it's a more down to your preferences.
If you like sports/moege go Aokana, if you like mystery/epic twists go Harukuru, if you like lolis and fight scenes go Natsukuru, if you like romcom fun go Akikuru, if you like raw soulful doujinge go Indigo

>>47165606
Thanks anon. I appreciate it a lot when people give details like this, I love you

>>47166119
heh it make me chuckle

>>47166119
Reminds me of the unending discussions over whether this was supposed to be a pun or not.

>>47164071
This is the first time I'm hearing about this append episode. Didn't think AsaPro make them. Do their other games have appends too?

>>47165606
>girl x girl romance
>lesbian sex
Weird for them to go for a yurige after 4 games with male protagonists.

>>47166823
I wouldn't exactly call Fuyukuru a yurige.
I know that it has girl x girl romance, but I suspect hardcore yuri fans would not like it. They'd probably be real dicks about it.

Just remembered this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdFNoHLOSks

>>47166823
>yurige
it's complicated

>Spends most of her route being down about a man that appeared one time
>Becomes a bitter bitch to everyone
>Last minute scene is her saying mb lol and the MC of course laps it up
>Game ends
??? Are the other Nursery Rhyme routes better cause I'm done otherwise

>>47167019
and that's off the backlog

>>47167038
You don't have to reply to every single post.

>>47167092
The thread is dead enough even with those replies. It's not wise to discourage activity here even further.

>>47167107
>thread is dead enough
this is /jp/, not whatever shithole board you came from
a thread going two days without a reply is normal

>>47167092
but that's my first reply in this thread

>>47165606
WTF is that flag?

>>47167252
It's not a flag, it's the knitting club, they knit things, it's just a design.

>>47167257
Apparently they recently added black, brown, and some other colors, so it's a bit traumatic to see that, and a bit suspicious since it's a 2024 yurige. But I guess it's unlikely that they had any harmful intent.

>>47167285
>it's a 2024 yurige
It is neither of those things.

>>47167285
>man I love yurige
>wtf, is that a gay pride symbol in my yurige about turning girls into boys!?
>aieee!

>There is a fair amount of futa content in this game, and none of it is avoidable.
Yep, looks like a masterpiece.

>>47167369
I quite enjoyed it, and it's fairly short, so it's well worth a read.
It does switch from nonstop nukige -> serious murder mystery plot -> nonstop nukige, though.
Also that OP is so fucking good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LxrzgjWDew

>>47167378
I'll try it, mostly because of the brown girl and the english lyrics in the op.

>>47166788
http://www.erogame-tokuten.com
no idea but you could look through this site to see if any are listed, though i don't know how accurate it is. i do know the mini fds they started selling for their most recent games are basically the same thing if longer, and they had voice dramas for as long as i can remember and most of the DLC for their newer games has probably been shared

>>47167019
When will they make another moege like Itsusora?

>>47167019
Now I'm curious what kind of sex scenes this route has.

>>47167378
>It does switch from nonstop slop -> serious murder mystery slop -> nonstop slop, though.
Sounds riveting

>>47167378
https://exhentai.org/s/facff73612/2021645-429

Yurishit AND futashit? Never reading it *adds fuyukuru to blacklist*

>>47167654
High IQ people like SCA-Ji and Watanabe like yuri and futa. Are you not high IQ?

>>47167378
So I'm confused, are they actually girls, they just grow dicks later on or something? Spoil me because I don't want to play it if any of them are traps.

>>47167535
Is the ps2 content worth it?

>>47167757
I only know that itt has some nice additional CGs and that the new routes weren't written by Shumon

>>47167783
I see. Well, I guess I'll just have to read both versions for the full experience just like with kazoku keikaku and musicus

Speaking of content written by others, I will never forgive jackson

>>47167738
they undergo sex change surgery so they have neophaluses

>>47167412
>scat-skin girl
>english
Thanks for the heads-up, not reading it.

>>47167901
BASED! Do they make them from skin torn off from their limbs for extra Subahibian realism points?

>>47167654
>>47167662
>>47167939
>>47167960
Samefagging is too obvious

>>47167662
Any other high iq writers we should know about?

>>47167972
Are you a meido who can see posters' IP addresses?

>>47167984

>>47167662
Dont recognize scat-ji and watanabe as anything other than shit writers propped up by bad taste clowns. Yuri is shit unless it is the prelude of a MFF scene

>>47168010
>westoid name
Literally who? Is this spam?

Is there recommended route order for playing memories off games? or can I just play which heroine I interested most?

>>47168020
It's the writer of Doki Doki Literature Club, a based weeb VN that makes fun and deconstructs Nip otaku tropes.

>>47168039
And… why should we care about it and how is that related to >>47167984

>>47168025
>all-ages series

>>47168016
"bad taste clowns" at least talk about vns

>>47168051
Because it takes a high IQ to understand and deconstruct stale otaku tropes and make immersive 4th wall breaking meta-experiences. Sca-ji is a nip example, but Dan Salvato is proof that the West also has a lot of high IQ vinnie writers.
There's also another Western 4th wall breaking vinnie called Lessons In Love that literally has over 2 million words and the writer says that it's not even 20% done, and it's still getting updates. It takes a really high IQ to write 10 million words. He's also developing a VN called "Nothing is Beautiful." Even the title... says a lot about society.

>>47168080
Okay... how is recycling points that everyone thought about when they were twelve related to >>47167984

>>47168096
>implying that scat-ji and watanabe are high IQ

>>47168095
it was fun to note the amount of references

I can't decide which one to read bros.

>>47168025
I haven't read it but
>順番は特に無いので、好きな順でプレイすればいいと思いますよ。強いて言えば唯笑（メインなので）を最後にしておけばいいって事くらいですかね。音羽小夜美詩音みなも唯笑がオススメ。個人的に詩音は1stで特に気に入ってるキャラです。
Apparently what most do is save the main girl for last

This reminds me that there was memories off switch edition. I guess it's time to read them

>>47168218
Thanks

>>47168176
What are you in the mood for?

>>47168080
>Lessons In Love
someone sometime somewhere said this was good
at least i would assume that's why i bookmarked it
didn't play it though

>>47168842
>i bookmarked it
You have to go back. Immediately.

Did no one ever make a good English VN?

>>47168919
>English VN
That might be close to impossible. Even the man anon mentioned here before is/was infected with the thing that prevents non-Japanese people from creating otaku art and especially VNs which are the pinnacle of soulful art.

>>47168919
We have few enough (visual) artists in the west that can faithfully replicate Japanese moe aesthetics, so making a complete work of art including writing, (visual) art, music, and optionally voice, is an even harder task. Not to speak that English is a crippled and soulless language compared to Japanese and inherently there basically cannot exist good English writing or voice acting, so at most it would be a western VN written in Japanese.
As for exactly why, aside from the language problem, I guess there are cultural issues such as westoid ideological brainrot, but some anons have proposed a theory that genetic factors may also be at play.

>>47168842
>someone sometime somewhere said this was good
It's because he hasn't read this post >>46005012

>>47169021
Imho it's mostly soul factors. If there was to be a VN made by an English speaker he would have to be someone who isn't creating to express himself or his ideology but for a truly higher otaku purpose. This is not a common trait in that demographic because they have a distorted idea of art as a vehicle for self-expression above all else.

>>47169021
ask me how I know you've never read the classics.

>>47169141
What do you mean by classics? Nietzsche, Pride and Prejudice, and other Westoid ramblings?

>>47169164
It's required reading in any first world country, I don't know what the reality will be like in the puddle you live in

>>47169188
Are we being raided? What do westoid ramblings have to do with untranslated Japanese visual novels.

>>47167984
Scaji 115 iq tops

Is the title "Elfen king" a reference to Elden Ring or...

>>47169552
Speaking of elves.

Any eroge where girls of different fantasy races (or even just humans from different regions) have distinctive culture, customs and common sense?
The few I played that had this were fullblown nukige.

>>47169552
>or...
...or what? What were you implying?

>>47169998
Isekai lovers where it's considered polite to stare at women's breasts.

3ping lovers and Mako Hunter too but those are nukige.

>>47170193
Or is it just a coincidence?
i know i sound like an idiot but i'm curious.

>>47170383
Huh, to me that "or..." felt ominous, like hiding an option that's negative in some way.
Well, I don't know. Was Elden Ring popular in Japan? If it was then it could be a reference since the names are so similar, but who knows, really.

>>47170399
>Was Elden Ring popular in Japan?
I really hope it wasn't. It seems that when you give players a sense of achievement through cheap memorization, the gameplay is considered good.

>>47170399
won the goty in japan in 2022, so....

I just finished reading Atri My Dear Moments. First of all, that soulless Subahibian twist around the middle was negated, and it was confirmed that she does have 心・感情・意識 after all, so the infamous philosopher-artist's hands did not spoil this work fortunately..
Overall I enjoyed this VN. The normal end (starting from that rooftop fight scene until the rocket launch) was the best and most soulful section of the VN and it's where I cried a few times. The twist around the middle was disheartening, but spoilers came to save me and gave me the will to keep on reading and my expectations were met. To be honest I did feel like the anti-twist came a bit too late and thus was quite abrupt, but of course, it was much better than if it didn't happen. Though it does indeed not happen in the bad/alternative end... I don't know why anon said that it was the better end, it was just depressing and that's it.
Something controversial about this VN is the "True End". It did make me conflicted too. Cheating aside, I personally don't really like epilogues where the characters are shown as old people in general, but with all the technological advancements it even felt kind of creepy and bizarre... particularly the part where the MC uploads his consciousness into the "singularity" to spend time with Atri. And the reunion itself felt a bit cheap, to be honest, and didn't make me as happy as it should have. The story probably would've been better off concluding with the normal end.
Anyway, the art looked very pretty, though I felt like there could be more CGs. In terms of music there were many soulful tracks, my favorite being the main theme song along with the vocal version, though some tracks felt too "cinematic" (in a negative sense).
To conclude, I would recommend it you if you'd like a short nakigē, though don't expect it to be super "deep" and full of contrived novelties or whatever. Also, I'm looking forward to the anime adaptation.

https://twitter.com/metalogiq/status/1805026296021553406

>>47170664
Nice to see that they're still active.

>>47170399
I'll ask the japanese on 2chan,just to be sure.

>>47170679
Thank you, I will move to Japan to be able to post from an unbanned, residential IP.

>>47170678
Yeah, I'm really hyped to see what Marutani will surprise us with next.

https://twitter.com/senoby68/status/1804062255085969477

Kind of a weird question, do any of you ever come back to the same VN more than once or twice?

>>47170731
like, to fap, or to read?
Regarding the former, then yes dozens, maybe even hundreds of times.
The latter, well I always say I'm going to reread, but come to think of it, I have never gotten around to fully rereading a VN. There's stuff I read ten years ago that I've been meaning to reread for the past 9 and still haven't.

>>47170731
Yes of course just my favorites.
i read sukebei elf thrice.

>>47170731
Like a decade and a half ago when I was an EOP and there were basically no VNs translated I must've reread Tsukihime 20+ times.
Now that I can read Japanese and there's so many choices out there I can never find the time to go back and reread something when I could be reading something new or polishing off my backlog. It's hard to justifying reading something again, unless it's a re-release or a new version or the like.
Except going back to fap to h-scenes I like, but that doesn't count.

>>47170731
There are some games that I never uninstall and in which I make saves at the beginning of some scenes just to reread them later and say: yeah, this shit was really good.

>>47170731
I think I've reread CLANNAD more than twice, but I started with the English translation.

>>47170731
Yes. Both to fap again to some scenes or to even do a full reread.

>>47170731
Most of the time I just reread moments that I like. If I like the VN a lot I might reread it in at least 1 year after I finished reading it the first time.

>>47170731
Just like a book, rereading a vn is always a good experience.

>>47170775
>I must've reread Tsukihime 20+ times
Imagine if you did that but in Japanese, you could have gotten to a decent Japanese level back then just from doing that.
EOPs are truly miserable creatures that seek the most pathetic excuses to avoid learning Japanese, but the truth is that we all used to be EOPs, even me...

https://twitter.com/takepoison9/status/1804888573226922247

Bros is there a romance recommendation you'd give for "I thought I would never meet you again" Like wa2 coda but with a good heroine this time around

>>47168218
>Apparently what most do is save the main girl for last
Isn't that what most galge players do, regardless of the game? Sometimes it's even forced. You're not going to romance the main girl on your first Tokimemo playthrough unless you want to lose hard.

>>47170836
I wonder... there are some who do the main girl route first and leave the one they really like for last. Something similar to the infamous koichoco experience I guess?

>>47170731
Same as this anon >>47170777
Sometimes I do a save in the middle of a dialogue because I find the voice acting or whatever's going on very hot and reread it.

Other than that I just don't reread VNs and don't replay games. Unless they have something that makes every playthrough unique or very different.

>>47170731
I have a bunch of games still saved that I want to replay eventually because I loved them, but I've only actually replayed a few since there's so many other new things I also want to read.

>>47170846
I've personally never heard of anyone doing that, but I guess it's reasonable when it doesn't mess up the reading order. Usually for me the childhood friend/girl who already likes the MC is first, girl I like is penultimate and the main girl goes last.

>>47170891
I guess it's because of this sentimentality of wanting the heroine you really like to be your last experience in a given game. The problem is that sometimes the route of said heroine can be disappointing, but oh well...

>>47170836
>>47170846
Personally not a fan of the "main girl = more quality and more content" approach.
I prefer it when each heroine is more or less equal and it's more about your preference rather than who the devs think should be in the spotlight.

>>47170933
Yeah, I guess that would be the right approach to respect the reader, since it's not uncommon for some girl to end up overshadowing the main heroine for some reason and being the favorite by far. In games with forced route order and true ending this becomes much, much more evident.

>>47170933
I think in games with a specific story or theme it's hard to present it fully without making one of the routes the "main" one.

>>47170731
There are certainly some games I love so much that I've replayed them again. But usually I only replay to read routes that I skipped before.

>>47170731
I don't like rereading or replaying games because there are so many to experience but there is one VN which I read multiple times. It was the biggest inspiration for me to properly learn Japanese. Going to read it again one of these days.

>>47170933
Vendetta is one of the best examples of that. Her route is disproportionately and excessively good, but milli...

>>47171074
Hello, contrived novelty xister.
>there is one VN which I read multiple times
https://vndb.org/v13566 This one?

>>47170731
Read it again? No, load up a save and replay my favorite scenes? Yes.
Reading eroge takes a lot of time so i rather start something new instead of wasting time in something i already experienced, however i take pics of my favorite moments during my playthrough and later check it out when i want to remember stuff, and if that is not enough i just load up a save of those moments and experience it again.

>>47171085
I liked Chitose more than Vendetta, but her route was almost as bad as Chitose.

>>47171149
How...? the last Vendetta chapters are literally the best of the entire vn

Question on Puramai: Why give the protagonist a twin sister if you're just going to make him a generic black-haired self-insert anyway? Are they NBR twins or something?

>>47170554
>uploads his consciousness into the "singularity"
Thanks for the review, I might just watch the anime and hope it captures the good parts as this would make me not want to read it already.
I hope Tsui no Stella can get an anime.

>>47171149
Don't know why people don't like Chitose route. Even if Vendetta's was undoubtedly the best, Chitose's was pretty fun too.

>>47171135
No one has been entertaining your shitposting for days so I'll be generous with (You) just once.

>>47171165
That guy was angry because no one paid attention to his impressions above

>>47170731
I reread scenes, listen to the OSTs and try to find quality 実況 of games I loved.

>>47171149
I meant to wirite that Chitose route was almost as bad as Millie, what a brain fart, Vendettas route was amazing, I agree.

>>47171135
Is this an automated reply?

>>47171178
lol I see. I had to read your post 3 times, because it was the first time I saw someone say the Vendetta route was bad. That's probably the closest we've come to something written by Masada.

>>47171163
To be honest, I don't think it's bad, but milli route left me so mentally tired, I guess I just couldn't enjoy it. Vendetta is simply unbeatable.

>>47169552
It's a goethe reference
Erlkonig

>>47171135
>>47171180
Thanks for the laugh
This thread truly will never recover

>>47171228
You will never recover from being dropped on your head as a child.

>>47171228
Kekaroo

>>47171180
Anyone you disagree with is a bot. The only thing you can be sure that exists is your own mind. This is what Professor Sca-Ji taught us in his visual novel Subarashiki Hibi.

>>47171288
Based scaji did it again. He can’t stop winning bros. It’s so over for other VNs.

>>47170554
Never forget it guys. This faggot is the source of all the shitposting of the last few months. You can even use this post as a reference to send to the mods with copies of the archive.

What do we think about "Asuka-san wa Nabikanai"?

>>47171311
Is it a tourist?

>spammer got bored of Elden Slop
>starts shitting up the place again

>>47171311
>a 2 hour old post is the source of all the shitposting of the last few months
What math is this?
>You can even use this post as a reference
<tell mods to censor opinions I don't like

>>47171341
>>47171334
Who is saying this?

>>47171341
HEH
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=philosopher-artist
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=contrived+novelties

>>47171349
Strange, I don't see a user ID on those posts showing that they're all by the same person.

>>47171311
i dont see anything wrong with that review
if anything its a much more on-topic and higher effort post than yours

>>47171288 15:09:59
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>>47171367 15:20:28
>>47171383 15:22:52
cute samefagging

>>47171311
It's mondblut, for real

>>47171320
Short and sweet, I liked it.

>>47171395
>he even counts the time
Holy shit, I couldn't imagine being this obsessed over some imaginary internet boogeymen. Perhaps you should stop stalking e-celebs all day and start reading more VNs?

>>47171085
Trinity did it much better

>>47171395
see >>47171367

Is discussion of free games allowed here? I remember finding this VN a couple of years ago on vector where the protagonist was a pokemonfag who used 我 and spoke with ロジカル語法, I tried looking for it yesterday but couldn't find it. It was relatively high-quality for a free game and used a map system. Anyone have any idea of what I'm talking about?

>>47171447
>Is discussion of free games allowed here?
I guess so? Being on VNDB or EGS makes it more valid.
>ロジカル語法
What is this?

>>47171320
If you love white haired kuudere and very cheesy poetry you will have a good time.
That's what i'm thinking.

>>47171425
That scene was so hype. I feel Trinity was a much more polished experience than Vendetta overall

>>47171458
>very cheesy poetry
Is it hard in terms of Japanese?

>>47171460
I loved them both, shame Takahama Ryou couldn't keep up the quality for his future games

>>47171460
Love Kerberos, no homo

>>47171456
>ロジカル語法
It's a kind of weird dialect they used on the 2ch pokemon board, everything ends with ~ですなwww ~ですぞwww and 我 is the first-person pronoun. Closest thing to it in western terms is leetspeak.

>>47171467
Nah dw it's one or two scene.
The whole game is very easy to read,you'll see as soon as you start it.

>>47171425
Lack of good romance in the true route made Trinity rank lower than Vendetta for me, plus Vendetta > Rain. Also the final upgrade in Vendetta was far more hype than anything in Trinity.

>>47171491
Huh, I thought that it had something to do with making the grammatical structure unambiguous and "logical" or something like that.
As a side note, Chinks use 我 as the common first-person pronoun.

>>47171509
this plus I also liked Zephyr way more than Ash

>>47171509
The final fight in Vendetta was something else

>>47171517
I liked Ash more, his philosophy resonated much more with me and his scenes were insanely hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAkuLB2O9Uc

>>>47169998
僕と恋するポンコツアクマ。is like that. Each of the girls is from a different fantasy society, and each of them is a misfit in their own culture for one reason or another.
The mummy girl hates wearing bandages.
The witch girl is flunking her magic tests.
The succubus girl is an omega-level turbovirgin who spills spaghetti out of her pockets whenever she imagines kissing you.
And so on.
It's a happy, sweet moege with very good H-scenes and a bunch of funny comedy scenes revolving around the heroines' different (or lack of) common sense. It's a personal favorite of mine. Whenever I'm having a cruddy day, reading it always makes me feel better.
If you decide to give it a shot, make sure you grab the version 1.1 update; it adds 776 MB of new videos. (Although it sadly does also fix the adorable "Japan Sales Onil" typo.)

>>47170836
>You're not going to romance the main girl on your first Tokimemo playthrough unless you want to lose hard.
Not if you believe in yourself!

>>47171599
that witch hat is way too small

>>47171320
Once they have their first time it shift genres to nukige...

>>47171723
Many such cases.

>>47171723
Thats why moege sucks, in plotkino such thing doesnt happen.

>>47172024
Name 10 plotge with good romance.

>>47172042
As someone who reads primarily eroge because plot, this question has made me rethink my life.

>>47172042
Romance is a moebuta delusion. Women are not capable of love, so the only true romance is BL. The most realistic approach when you have women involved is NTR, that's why plotkino is so relevant.

For those of you who have read dies irae and kkk, can you remind me if the romance with rea was good? I mean, her relationship with ren takes on a much higher tone when you find out that despite everything, in kkk she's still the closest to him, but I don't quite remember what the more "romantic" scenes in dies irae were like

>>47172074
Kei has best romance in dies with Ren and it's not even close, really, Rea was as meh as any other heroine imo

>>47172074
Rea had the best romance and better dyamnic with Ren in common route, she really feels like the main heroine who wins

>>47172074
I also found Rea to have the best romance out of everyone.

>>47172042
Umineko no Naku Koro ni

>>47172094
Somehow I can see your point, that chemistry between tsundere was really good
>>47172103
>>47172121
In some ways I am ashamed of myself for not remembering many details in that regard, as rea was my favorite. Reading it so long ago really fucked up my memory. I guess I could reread her route just for nostalgia and because I really liked her

>>47172094
agreed with this

>>47172140
Honestly, I don't remember a ton either. The scene in the tower or whatever they called that place was nice though.

>>47172140
I thought it was a nice detail how in Acta est Fabula you could take her virginity two times.

>romance between two tsunderes
More like this?

>>47172201
Conboku?

>>47172165
This scene really broke me the first time I read it
>>47172188
I'll definitely go for act est fabula first. It will be funny how much faster I will be able to read it now

>it's actually true
I had no idea and now I'm dying of laughter.

>>47172582
wtf I love Bush now

>>47172582
Guess this is why the fear of broccoli is such a meme in some American cartoons?

A rare movie reference I actually understand.

>>47173101
Very good movie. Another movie reference I always remember is the one in Phantom. It was unexpected and hilarious.

>continue my Yuzuge route
>absolutely fuck all happens
>writing style is not pleasant
>BGM gets on my nerves especially the heroine's chara theme
>sprite animations irk me
>keep looking up my position in the script file every so often
Have I grown out of Yuzusoft? Since last night I've "forced" myself to read from 5% to now 22% of the route. No confession, no sex, barely any comedy. The heroine loves MC and every other chara knows it. MC doesn't seem to love her like that but everyone is pushing him into it. This is not romance. I'm also sick of hearing about this dumb school festival. It sounds just as boring and generic as every other, but the characters talked it up as an improved one without really saying what is new. A café and a haunted house? How is that special? You're preparing that for an entire month? I can't.

Previously I've finished moege by Marmalade, August, feng, Clochette, Cube and from no-name devs, too. The writing was fun, the pacing didn't grind my gears and reading them went smoothly. That's exactly what Yuzusoft meant to me in the past. Now all I want is stop reading this and do something else.

>>47173384
Which Yuzu?

>>47173384
Did you read something similar just before? Personally I can't read two vns too similar in a row because I end up getting bored quickly.

>>47173384
Anon, I want to inform you that I was able to decipher the SOS message hidden in your post and am now sending a SWAT team to your coordinates. Don't give up, we're coming to free you.

> forcing yourself to read something you don't really like
top kek

>>47173671
Who are you quoting?

>>47173671
moebuhis do be like that, forcing the sloppa down their throats

>>47173686
Just ignore him.

>>47172392
>>47172582
Wait, are you reading a Nounai kanojo non-trapge?
Why?

Update to >>47173384: the first H-scene is over @43%.

Things got briefly interesting when MC protected the heroine from danger. Shortly after she tried to kiss him and like a harem anime faggot he pulled away. Later he embraced her and she got flustered, pulled away. Now I'm in the supernatural bullshit arc where she suffers keyaids and the cause is obvious even to MC who is the cause but he lets her suffer because he sucks. The other character who should know everything also does nothing. Still no confession but hey, heroine masturbated fantasizing about MC's touching her.

There's no hope for this route. Should be another 4 H-scenes that'll take up much of the other 57% once the supernatural bullshit drama is over. I'm afraid that there are other bullshit arcs in this route. Yuzusoft routes always have 3 arcs.

>>47173395
Tenshit Ranman

>>47173418
Other moege, yes. But I liked them. Thematically and story-wise there's not much overlap. I just can't into Yuzu anymore.

>>47173628
I'll end it. With the credits rolling over my grave.

>>47174076
just drop and stop whining baka moebuhi

>>47173671
>top kek
What?

>>47174102
>From top + kek; coined by 4chan in 2013 as an intentional catachresis >of Turkish Topkek, a brand of cupcake, which was posted to the >imageboard as a variant of the then-popular Top Gun hat internet meme.
>(Internet slang) A reaction which indicates that the speaker is highly amused.

>>47173384
Go read Dracu-Riot. At least there's some shit going on constantly in that game.

>>47172054
>>47173701
>>47174085
Are we being raided?

>>47170554
Now the important questions. Does she have a まんこ? Also, what happens to the food she "eats"?

>>47174177
She has a cute little ちんぽ

>>47168561
Mostly a soulful story and both are probably that so I can't really decide.

>>47173101
Which one is it?

>>47174204
Kira Kira has a trap MC which is not something I'm particularly into but I'm curious on how that's handled..
(t. read neither)

What's the closest thing to k***wa sh**jo but that uses disabilities for additional moe and making them helpless and dependent on the MC instead of making a point about diversity and how cripples are normal "independent" people?
Otherwise, what are your favorite disabled heroines that are handled as such (moe, not propaganda)?

>>47174173
Ever since late november

>>47175081
Who is raiding us and why?

remember
https://twitter.com/HOOKSOFT/status/1805197931147862378

I just had a weird thought. Are we 2Dbros lacking in empathy and uncapable of true love since we can't love a person (heroine) regardless of how they are, and require them to conform to certain age/appearance/personality/etc and have little internal and external freedom?

I really need to read this shit. It's somehow funny how most of the stuff I read is because I liked the OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KOxc5jMSw

>>47168025
Some memooff games have enforced order like in Yubikiri you're forced to read Lisa, Orihime and Shiina before moving onto main girls and Omokimi forces you to read all heroines before you start true route. Good suggestion is to leave main girl for last.
If you want order for memooff 2nd, I would reccomend:
1-2: Takano and Megumi
3: Shizuru
4: Tomoe
5: Tsubame
6: Hotaru

>>47175559
No.
Unconditional love is reserved for family. "Unconditional love" in the context of romance is like a desperate pig eating whatever slop it finds on the ground (ironically enough they call US "buta").

>>47175696
This. The idea that you have to accept girls "as they are" and give them so-called freedom is a degenerate Western concept.

>>47175695
2nd is the one I want to read more. The problem is that I'm not entirely sure which platform to read them on. BGM is so much better on ps1.

>>47174111
>From top + kek
But what IS a "kek" and where does the "word" come from?

>>47175695
Yes I'm reading memoff 2nd, Thanks.

>>47175316
discordfaggots who come here to get attention

>>47175738
kek is a mutilated lel which is mutilated lol (laughing out loud)

t. seasoned shitposter

>>47175559
2Dbros can fap to all kinds of degeneracy, please speak for yourself. Hardcore incestfags fuck anyone who crawled out of the same vagina and less hardcore haremfags fuck anything that moves in their vicinity.

>>47175990
>t.
based and redpilled.

>>47175632
>most of the stuff I read is because I liked the OP
Wasn't there a moege reader girl who did the same? She even didn't read games with bad OPs.

>>47175559
I have no idea what you're talking about. First of all, define what you mean by "true love". The concept itself is nothing more than an obscurity. Like saying "the best VN of all time". Simply because we can use words to define a concept doesn't mean it has to exist, or even have meaning. Love between people is as myriad and inexplicable as as the million ways someone can enjoy a VN, and they're all true and they're all false to some extent. True love only exists in the mind of someone looking at two people in a relationship and convinces themselves what they're looking at is somehow more genuine than anything they could feel.

>>47176118
>a moege reader girl
I wonder what part of the moege experience do girls enjoy compared to boys?

Obviously if the story itself if interesting then sex doesn't matter.
But if it's more about romance, do they selfinsert as a protagonist?
Or do they view the story as a "cute love story between a boy and a girl"?

>>47176122
>true
>doesn't mean it has to exist, or even have meaning.
Simply by reading this post, my world is split into a pre and post period.

>>47176237
>romance
>then sex doesn't matter.
Anon...

>>47176118
>>47176237
Did I accidentally walk into E-celeb Gossip/3DPD Worship General? Because I thought that I was on Untranslated VN General.

>>47176586
>>47176463
>>47176077
>>47175738
>>47175720
>>47175696
>>47175559
>>47174685
ban this fag please

>>47168218
>>個人的に詩音は1st
I did the same. Kaoru has my favorite design but the later parts of her route just didn't sit well with me.

>47176602
>mods are my personal imaginary friend/bogeyman hunting squad
Please 自殺して下さい知的障害者様

>>47173918
There's one trap in it. It's actually surprisingly funny so far though.

>>47176586
Moege readers are on topic.

>>47173101

>>47176830
Considering what a meme they are(were?), I'm not sure if her Commando references even count as movie references.

>>47174204
Read kira kira now and leave bst for like september. Not a summer game

What's your favorite disabled heroine? Her disability should make her more helpless and dependent on the MC
ie. add 萌 value.

who's the most manipulative imouto in エロゲ?

>>47177208
Disabled heroines make me want to make them even more disabled.

>>47177211
Sir, that's a 漫画.

>>47177341
I bet he wants some recommendations about manipulative imouto like that from eroge.

>>47175316
I'd bet there's some serious spillover shitposting from a certain thread that used to be on /a/ but that's just my pet theory.

I love my witch onee-chan even if i can't see her cute hat properly half of the time!

Any moege with more "unique" H scenes, like this one?

>>47177208
?

>>47177211
i'll let you know when i've read every game with an imouto in it, but until then Ren currently holds the crown

>>47178195
nice, they are actually handing out bans for this shit

>>47178136
I guess 9-nine- Episode 2 can be classed as moege.

>>47178136
Disgusting

How do we define soul? What are examples of soulful things in visual novels? Is it when a writer has a genuine complaint or affection towards something, so he depicts it? What happens if the author is delusional so his complaint is sincere but lacking in truth? Can something be soulful if it's built on a foundation of falsehoods? I'm really confused.

>>47178491
why not use regular words instead of buzzwords to explain how you feel about something

>>47177208
>>47178491
This guy is evading the ban by the way

>>47178508
offtopic schizo

>>47178591

>>47178593
nobody gives a shit. those posts are ontopic, your sperging isnt. go cry about boogeymen elsewhere, dipshit

>>47178607
You care enough to get angry because you're obviously evading a ban

>>47178618
read >>47178607 100 times
last (You) you're getting from me, attention whore

>>47178607
And yet he got banned. Not like a crossposter would know what's off-topic and what isn't, anyway.

this is so subahibian...

>>47162558
>best girl
>has only a side route in a fandisk
every fucking time.

>>47178782
We were robbed

Could anyone recommend a VN with a heroine similar to Rin from Katawa Shoujo in terms of motif or feel? Something with nice banter but ends up in a tragedy. Ayana from JQV or Youko from CC sort of hits that feeling but looking for other titles. Would appreciate any advice.

>>47178963
You got filtered, best girl in CC was Touko

>>47178782
i've honestly always felt this rage about girls not having routes usually stems from some psychological reaction to not being able to have her more than anything else

>>47179025
Yeah same. A routeless girl usually just instantly shoots up in my list precisely because of that.

>>47179025
probably related to FOMO

>>47179025
Sounds like a self inserter problem who wants everything hopping on his dick.

>>47179081
You have to go back.

>>47179103
Cope

>>47179115
>>47179103

>>47179025
Funny you mention this. I'm reading a route right now that feels completely unnecessary and out of place. I wouldn't mind if this was deleted from the game.

>>47179025
Routeless girls are often either slightly older, have some weird relationship with one of the heroines (or, god forbid, m-male characters), or are just so good they're used to test waters for a potential fandisk.

>>47179025
Is there a moege vinnie that utilizes route system and a girl not having a route in a meta and subversive way to push a powerful message, like Muramasa?

>>47179158
>vinnie
What? Winnie the Pooh?

As a 炉裏コン, I'm a bit tired of seeing 大人っぽさ being tossed around as something good and 子供っぽさ as something bad (in the context of girls) by characters in VNs. It's especially bizarre when all the girls are neotenous (of course, since that's a requirement for Moe).

is Seishun Fragile any good?

>>47179450
Probably the worst purplege in the past decade. But the H is decent.

I'm finally reading Subahibi after years of ignoring it. I'm not sure what all this yuri is about but the philosophy stuff is interesting, I just hope it doesn't go full denpa.

>>47179538
Troll post

In terms of quality, how does Phantom Integration compare to Urobuchi's other works?

Is it true that the Angel Beats VN has homo routes (non- bad end/joke; count for completion)? In a way that would make the fact that it never got completed less sad.

>>47179571
I'm reading it right now and enjoying it a whole lot, feels very movie-like and Urobuchi's signature, vivid third person writing style is as good in his first work as ever. I should mention that you need this patch to play it on modern Windows without crashing:
https://mega.nz/file/050XxYQJ#HiPgOvoRDPb1UqeM8wiue2iTpd-M1of9DARac5gHbr8
If the opening movie doesn't play, you might need to install K-Lite Codec Pack Basic.

>>47179571
I've only watched some Urobuchi anime so it's kind of hard to compare, but Phantom Integration was great. The last section of the story is amazing.

>>47179158
If you're actually serious then https://vndb.org/v11569

>>47179694
Thank you. *Removes it from backlog*

>>47179694
No one that posts that screenshot is serious.

>>47179613
>>47179661
Thanks. I was uncertain on reading it as I didn't like the anime but I'm sold

>>47179694
Can you describe it in more detail? How exactly is the meta shit performed? And what "message" is it supposed to push? Because from looking at it I like the art and may consider checking it out but if the meta shit is too retarded I'm not touching it.

>>47178136
Not sure if it counts, but I'm pretty sure I remember love rec having condom ntr in Nori's route.

>>47179744
Supposedly the later versions (anime and remake) are a lot different or something.

>>47179802
Yeah the remake is radically different, the anime original content is added in and none of that text is written by Urobuchi. The PS2/DVD person is also different because they rewrote the narration to work voiced.

>>47179802
I see, thx anon. What's the route order?

>>47179813
"person" version* holy shit I'm tired.

>>47179814
I don't think it particularly matters. Go for whoever you want.

>>47179797
WTF is that supposed to mean? Please elaborate.

Madoka was so plain that I didn't even think she had a route. I didn't even save a screenshot of her alone. It turns out that there is sort of a route for here although it's pretty short, so I did it to get it out of the way. It was alright I guess, but I'm not sure why this needed to exist. All the plot stuff completely disappears so you're kind of wondering what actually happens in the background and if the bad guys actually win or not.

>>47179869
Never mind, looked it up in the archives myself. Much less bad than I expected, I thought that the MC would wear some male character's or random man's used condom or some gay crazy shit like that.

>>47179959
The elevens thought up the weirdest stuffs.

>>47179869
https://i.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0137/10/1435963193958.jpg
Never mind, looked it up in the archives myself. Much less bad than I expected, the image that "condom NTR" created for me was of the MC wearing some male character's or random man's used condom or some gay crazy shit like that.

>>47179797
>>47179869
>>47179988
From looking at the tags, I found something more ominous about Loverec, and even Nori specifically. Apparently she has an older brother with a "sister complex" tag... and he has a "video camera" tag and Nori has a "consensual porn acting" tag. What is this? Does her brother film her (having sex with MC)? That would be much more NTR-ish than just that condom shit. Otherwise, how much prominence is it given to his "sister complex"? Because that's still kind of NTR-like and kimoi.

>>47179988
In your defense, that condom ntr shit sounds like the wildest shit imaginable in a moege. Hilarious scene. Almost makes me want to read it if comedy in general is like that.

>>47171599
I remember that little クジラ looking asshole from that game.
That thing was a pro at making anyone mad.

>>47179918
I mean, if you compare her in design to all the rest of the cast, she's definitely the most "normal". Momiji looks like the absolute goddess of that game

>>47179561
Not sure what I said to anger you but it's a true fact I'm doing a blind playthrough of Subahibi right now.

>>47180215
It would be better if you read the HD edition for the additional content probably.

>>47180233
HD edition fucks the UI. I didn't even consume the extra stuff, I didn't think it was necessary

>>47180258
I feel that in this case, and unlike games like cross channel at least, the new content is worth it.

>>47180215
Maybe you're a newfag but Subahibi is a very controversial game here and most posts mentioning it happen to be troll posts.

>>47180233
That's the HD version, look at the UI. It's just a messed up screenshot.

>>47180211
She felt like an obligatory "normal friend character" that a lot of chuuni games have except they bothered to write a whole scenario for her, which is standard moege fair, instead of the usual thing where they become irrelevant later.

>>47180282
Don't give a shit about that. Our "famous anon" here should already understand that there are a lot of people in this thread who really want to talk about eroge, and that is extremely beneficial to anyone who is actually interested in the medium. エロゲスレ is literally one of the last places where you can genuinely discuss eroge properly due to the fact that you don't have to give your opinion behind a fucking username.

>>47180282
I'm not a newfag, I genuinely just ignored it until now and don't really care about the recent shitposting. Anyway, I won't post it any more if it disturbs the thread.

>>47180370
I'm with the other guy. If you make genuine posts about eroge, then post whatever you want. I don't care about our resident mentally ill shitposter.

>>47180370
That guy is mentally ill for bring it up regardless. Anyone who brings up past shitposting unprovoked is as retarded as the shitposter(s) in question. Eroge is eroge. If people want to talk about it genuinely, whatever irrelevant bullshit associated shouldn't be in the conversation.

>>47180370
Post whatever you want. Seeing all the current situation with the censorship by the credit cards, it would be retarded if in this fucking thread we had to be self-censored as well. If someone wants to post loli shit, post loli shit. If someone wants to post ntr shit, post ntr shit. if someone wants to post moe shit, post moe shit. if someone wants to post chuuni shit, post chuuni shit. We all have our own poison in this shit and that's great.

>>47180370
kek he will destroy your blogposting with shitposts just for saying that, never underestimate the autists that frequent this place

Anything like swan song thats both dark and impressive?

sorry but it's against my religion to offer recommendations based off already translated visual novelge

>>47180951
But what untranslated visual novel is there thats like swan song?

>>47180958
i shan't betray my vows for you, demon

>>47180910
This shit is hard. Swan song setting is quite specific. You want something exactly like swan song or it can be something that's just pretty utsu

>>47181002
Well i can just take what you have. I was thinking of reading aster, j.q.v and that game where the protagonist suddenly starts growing a tail

>>47181021
>that game where the protagonist suddenly starts growing a tail
This is quite an interesting choice, although all three games are good options. The safest choice would definitely be ban'ya. You should consider mugen renkan especially, it may be what you are looking for. By the way, have you read cross channel? Ideally, you should read it before j.q.v

>>47181021
Wait what's that last one?

>>47181152
https://vndb.org/v11562

>>47178136
Kinkoi?

>>47179754
It explores the concept of (romantic) love and, by extension, various common tropes in romantic fiction/eroge. It asks what actually counts as love and questions the validity of each character's feelings but the game ultimately argues that you don't need a big reason to fall in love with someone as long as you're earnest in your feelings and make the choice to be with them. Fate vs. the choices we make is another theme that obviously plays into the eroge commentary and the choices are very important since you either accept a girl's confession and go on her route or reject her and the validity of her feelings and make her cry. The girl without a route is the best friend character who represents unconditional love that doesn't wish for reciprocation so she will never be a heroine but she supports MC a lot and wants to see him happy and plays a big role in the final route. She and the male "friend" provide most of the meta commentary on eroge tropes/cliches. They say stuff like "haha you can't actually date your br imouto this isn't an eroge that's gross" so you might find it annoying but I recommend at least trying it out because the romance theme is actually pretty interesting and unique. And the br imouto is good.

>>47181429
ringo remains one of the best no-route can't-have's and i respect that but also it does hurt a little
i do not want to fix her, i want us to enable each other but yes i know that's the part she doesn't want

>>47178136
Was that h-scene unique? It was fairly standard except for the little condom gag at the end.

>>47148391
Read Albatross Koukairoku,unironically it will let you experience Japanese purple prose.

Also, is there a tier above kamige? Because Metawo deserves to be elevated into it, dudes artwork is supreme, on par with Carnelian.

>>47181729
nta but futamata def did some unusual(by moege standards) h-scenes
https://i.imgur.com/fbTmmR5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/zKRf7W5.jpeg

>>47181774
So many of my problems with the VN would be fixed if Y*a was the one to get the chokefuck scene.

>>47181782
i couldn't be more opposite in opinions, ruirui was a great girl who was ruiruined by how the mc treated her
the thing about futamata was that the mc and yua were made for each other but individually they were garbage human beings, and yet together they had enough chemistry to overcome all of that
but all the non-yua routes were awful because it was just him being a shit to ordinary girls who could not handle his shittiness; ruirui's was terrible because it was her letting herself get shit on by a guy who was by all accounts a piece of shit
yua even makes fun of her for this and it's probably the best part of the route

>>47180402
>shit
>poison
Are you still 8 and think that global self-deprecation is cool?

https://x.com/nitroplus_staff/status/1805851928569544964 It's over.

>>47182011
Will nitroshit even work as a gacha? Or is it just about milking previous fans?

Does anyone have these games? All the links seem to be dead.
https://vndb.org/v10511
https://vndb.org/v9796

>>47182139
Nitroplus already did a gacha in the past.
https://vndb.org/v37274

I played it for some time when it was still alive on DMM.
It wasn't anything outstanding and got boring pretty fast.
But I think it was better than an average DMM gacha. Way better than what Alicesoft is doing with their gachas in terms of quality.

>listen to insert song or other notable track 7 years after reading the VN
>instantly cry
Is this a sign of soul?

>>47181820
Finally...

>>47182300
「piece of my heart」always does this to me: https://youtu.be/vkuYCJVc0NI

>>47182300
post examples

>>47183152
https://youtu.be/ijP_hSBtGzY

>>47182300
I get more feelings from BGMs desu

My windows laptop that I used for vns got toasted, ssd is unrecoverable. Just to confirm, there is still no reliable way to run games on linux right? I was in the middle of sakuuta and lost all my progress

>>47182011
it was over for over 6 years already, lol

>>47183241
What happened to it

>>47183255
there was a chance before core staff members started to leave one after another

>>47183241
Most of the time I can get them to run

>>47183261
more than likely they left because acquisition was happening and they saw writing on the wall

>>47178136
Aikotoba get H-scenes from a third person perspective and amakano get H-scenes from the perspective of the heroine, bot azarashi games.

>>47183241
>there is still no reliable way to run games on linux right?
use a windows VM with VMware, being able to switch to the most suited OS for an eroge on the fly is nice and you'll never have to waste a single second on trash like WINE

>>47183241
>no reliable way to run games on linux
I don't know about that brother

>>47183241
>I was in the middle of sakuuta
Nothing was lost.

>>47183241
Almost anything I tried ran fine under Wine some years ago, only Muramasa had issues. But a VM might be the cleaner option if you have good hardware.

>>47183349
How long is the battery life approximately?
I have a switch, but I am considering buying a s deck as well

>>47183415
I have the old LCD 512 GB model so when running VNs its probably around 5-6 hours. Mind you that I run most VNs on desktop mode so you can getaway with longer battery in gaming mode if you limit the TDP. OLED model will have substantially better battery life.

>>47183437
Oh nice, I can definitely enjoy my reading sessions without any problems then. I'm a huge fan of handheld consoles, so the s deck is a purchase I've been putting off quite a bit. It will come in handy to read my vns more comfortably

>>47183349
What's that white cover(?) accessory around the Deck?
>>47183364
>only Muramasa had issues.
It works now, just a pain in the ass to make it work.

>>47183673
simple grip case that can make the deck stand on a table.

>>47183241
iktf, i was nearing the end of Princess Witches when my laptop completely died. it sucks since i was near the end of the game, and was enjoying it a lot.

>>47183259
I really dont know, the ssd just fucked itself up for no reason. I took it to the repair shop and the dude told me it is unrecoverable. Apparently only the ssd is the issue so I'm going to try and install a new one tomorrow to see if I can still use that laptop.

>>47183319
Cool! I really don't know how to do that. I'll look it up, but if you have a recommended guide or something I would appreciate it. Regarding Wine, I installed and it absolutely fucked my my whole os, I had to reinstall it. Yes, absolutely my fault but still.

>>47183354
you jest but I was really invested in the rin route, the toritani route was a bit dull though.

>>47183364
What does "good hardware" mean in this case? I have 32 ram and an I7.

>>47183778
Yes, I was really fucking pissed, came back from uni to play to find the computer was unusable and all the data was lost. I will have to skip forward a lot of shit now which will probably be time consuming.

>>47183778
If the game is very enjoyable then rereading it from the start shouldn't be that problematic.