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jp/, I present to you the Million-Dollar-Question.

.zip or .rar?

>> No.4692068 [DELETED] 
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.7zip

>> No.4692063

.7z

>> No.4692064

.zip.rar

>> No.4692069

.rar

this is the 21st century

>> No.4692070

.rar

>> No.4692072

I'd unpack her archive any day.

>> No.4692074

In all tests I've done between zip, rar and also 7z, rar has won. So I'll go with that.

>> No.4692075

.7z
Also,
>.zip

>> No.4692077

.7z !!!!!!

>> No.4692083

.zip

Why do people even use .rar? I can't open them in Linux.

>> No.4692086

>>4692083
Why do people even use Linux?

>> No.4692087

.tar.gz

>> No.4692089

.rar

>> No.4692091

.rar

fuck your shit

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>>4692083
>he uses linux

>> No.4692094

.zar

>> No.4692099

.zip

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>>4692103
>he thinks free makes it somehow better in actual usage and not just purchase price

>> No.4692100

>>4692083
apt-get install unrar or whatever.

>> No.4692103

>>4692095
>he buys operating systems

>> No.4692110

>>4692103
>suggesting anyone actually pays for windows

>> No.4692112

>>4692103
>he gets them from his dad who's an IT supporter

>> No.4692113

>>4692103
Who said anything about buying?

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>>4692113
>didn't reply in green text

>> No.4692127

lol have you tried getting the "unrar" package. linux will do everything you want it to. it might take a bit more effort in command line though.

>> No.4692128

I don't understand you anti-linux fags. I use Debian and it has everything that Windows has and it's free.

>> No.4692129

what the fuck is the difference

>> No.4692134

>>>>4692128
Can it play all games and run all software that Windows can?

>> No.4692136

>>4692129
E-cred points

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>>4692122
>i broke you're combo

>> No.4692138

>>4692129
Almost nothing.

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>>4692137
>you started it again

>> No.4692142

7-zip is best and I'll tell you why:
1. Better compression
2. WinRAR can open 7z files anyway so nobody will bitch at you for not using RAR

>> No.4692143

>>4692127
>linux will do everything you want it to
Except play games.

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>>4692128
You've never had to install a printer, get pictures off a digital camera, or use peripherals like a microphone or a webcam, then.

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>>4692148
(or play games)

>> No.4692162

>>4692128
Drivers, etc.
And any software worth downloading runs on Windows.

I don't need spinnan' cubez.

>> No.4692165

>>4692143
It's not like /jp/ plays any games besides visual novels and Touhou, and those can easily be emulated.

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>>4692165
>implying most of /jp/ doesn't play real games

You just mad because you can't.

>> No.4692178 [DELETED] 

Windows come preinstalled on computers...
it's just easier to leave it on then install it so you can install another os then install so and so and this and that to run stuff you could right off the bat with windows.
Microsoft sucks but windows is just easier.

>> No.4692170

you can wine most things that matter. i think i've played biko2/3? on wine

>> No.4692174

I like .rar more but I have to admin everyone with widnows 7 should use 7z since well it sounds cooler?

>> No.4692175

ITT We give a shit about other people's computers.

>> No.4692179

>>4692165
actually it's kinda hard to get certain visual novels to work with wine. there's some bullshit with directx that fucks things up.

>> No.4692185

>>4692148
>install a printer
My printer works fine in Debian.

>get pictures off a digital camera
Debian recognizes my camera.

>or use peripherals like a microphone or a webcam, then.
Why would I want to do that?

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>>4692170
>biko2/3

That's your example?

>> No.4692188

>>4692128
You must enjoy playing all them debian games and working in all them debian versions of adobe and whatnot.

>> No.4692193

what the fuck is a Debian

>> No.4692197 [DELETED] 

>>4692193
A synonym for "shit".

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>/jp/ - Linucks/General

>> No.4692199

>>4692188
I love the Debian version of Steam

>> No.4692205

>>4692199
Yeah man it's even better then the Mac OSX version!

>> No.4692207

.7z

>> No.4692210

I dual boot Windows and Linux and both work perfectly fine.

What now, /jp/?

>>4692185
>Why would I want to do that?
Maybe because people use them? And all that shit runs on Linux anyway.

>> No.4692212

>>4692205
I know right, it blows the Windows version right out of the water

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>butthurt linux fags

>> No.4692220

>>4692210
>restarting to play a game

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>> No.4692224

>>4692210
I fail to see why you'd use linux for anything else then servers and high performance computing that requires precise control.

You don't use Linux on a DESKTOP or LAPTOP.

>> No.4692231

>>4692193
Gentoo for kids.

>>4692185
>Why would I want to do that?
To set up your computer as a surveillance device.
Webcams can be controlled with certain software to turn on and start recording or take pictures at a set interval when motion is detected.

Pretty cool, actually.

Also; the "why would I want that" is an instant defeat when you try playing the "my free shit can do whatever your pirated shit can".

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>>4692224
Pretentious fags who think "i use linux" makes them sound smart to people like their mothers who don't even know what an OS is.

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>> No.4692243

.rar
.zip chokes on japanese filenames

>> No.4692246

>>4692220
Bitches don't know 'bout my wine.

>>4692221
Fail chart is fail.
Rock can play rock-paper-scissors.

>> No.4692252

>>4692241
BUT DONCHA CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY?!??!??

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>>4692247
I love people that tell me I USE LINUX, what version, and they're like UBUNTU

>> No.4692260

>>4692246
Let me know when I can play ME2 through wine

>> No.4692264

>>4692260
More like let me know when I can play any game that uses DX8 and up.

>> No.4692265

>>4692256
black man's linux

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4692271

Did another simple test. The difference is really small.

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Linucksfags are like Macfags except instead of considering themselves culturally superior to you with no basis in fact, they consider themselves intellectually superior to you with no basis in fact.

/thread

>> No.4692274

>>4692264
So basically every game that's more complex than Solitaire?

>> No.4692277

7ZIP FTW!!!

>> No.4692279

>>4692247
I haven't posted in this thread yet, but I just like how Linux works and that's why I use it. I don't think I'm "superior" or anything because I only have different tastes. I sometimes have to boot WIndows to run some stuff, but I mostly use Linux because I just like how everything works.

Both have pros and cons. Stop bitching and be respectful to other people's tastes everyone.

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>>4692055
zip if it needs accessed a lot, otherwise solid rar

as for os - whatever is best for the job, I can get by with most.

>> No.4692285

>>4692264
Um... since about a couple years ago?

Though if you're using Linux for gaming, you're doing it very wrong. That said my VNs and Touhou run just fine.

>> No.4692291 [DELETED] 

>>4692272
more like the only "factual basis" they ever have and ever use is "its free haha so its better XDDD" because they know there's nothing else good about linux.

>>4692279
u mad

>> No.4692289

>Stop bitching and be respectful to other people's tastes everyone.

You must be new here.

>> No.4692297

>>4692274
No they can run stuff like Red Alert 1.

>> No.4692303

>>4692271
Kordox...that's the shittiest test ever. Try compressing stuff that isn't already compressed.
Try .bmp for a very, very good example.

>> No.4692312 [DELETED] 

>>4692291
>u mad

Go back to /a/

>> No.4692313

>>4692272
>I was only pretending

This is how I always hide my retardness on the internet. ;_;

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>newest game a linux user can play

>> No.4692321

>>4692285
If you're playing anything apart from Touhou and VNs, you're doing it wrong, I'd say.

>> No.4692322

I use both Linux and Windows.

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>>4692312
>go back to /a/

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>>4692312
>implying we don't use u mad here on a constant basis
>implying you don't know who I am

WWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRSS
SSSSSSSSSSSS

>> No.4692337

>>4692280
>as for os - whatever is best for the job, I can get by with most.

This, Linux is a workhorse and should stay that, I hate programing C and shit in windows. I'm used to good old GCC. And thats why I like linux on the college computers.

Win 7 is what I use at home since it's easy, robust, plays games and runs all the software you'll need. It also pretty much auto detects anything form my Mobile phone, camera, everything.

>> No.4692338

>>4692279
>be respectful.
Nice try.
The only life goal of /jp/ is to find something, ANYTHING that'll make us feel a tiny bit superior to somebody else, even if it's for an instant, and cling to it like leeches.

>> No.4692340

>>4692271
Kordox, you silly goose! Stop embarrassing yourself and go back to your doll thread.

>> No.4692355

>>4692103
Of course.

If someone gave you a free car, would you trust it on the interstate?

>> No.4692358

Windows for when I wanna relax and play games.
Linux for when I wanna get some serious work done without worrying about system stability, or dick around the intertubes without worrying about security problems.

>> No.4692362

>>4692338
Thats right, I dosent matter if you're nice looking, successful and a rich fag. As long as we're better at one thing then you we're superior to you in every way.

>> No.4692366

>>4692325
Fuck yeah, Swat 2. Shit is better than most games, old or new.

>> No.4692377

>>4692325
This actually looks kind of awesome. Is it?

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>>4692366
I lost my cd and don't feel like downloading it though, so I am sad.

I always killed all the terrorists instead of arresting them and got stuck when playing the terrorists at that fucking hospital due to some glitch half the time.

>> No.4692391 [DELETED] 

>>4692377
It's awesome, you should play it. It's old but it's badass.

>> No.4692389

I pirate operating systems and use common sense 2010. Let me install my latest eroge from share.

>> No.4692395

Never played SWAT 2, is it like jagged alliance ?

>> No.4692415

>>4692389
>latest eroge from share.

Enjoy your virus.

>> No.4692432

>>4692382
JaaaSON

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>>4692432
wait for your datsun

>> No.4692442

CUNT

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Please, can i hhhggggaavvee one

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>>4692389
>common sense
>eroge from share

This is obviously some new meaning of the word 'safe' that I was unaware of.

>> No.4692479

>>4692468
yes, it's called a virtual machine.

>> No.4692484

>>4692447
OKAY I'LL BUY YOU A PUTIN.

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>>4692484
JAYYYYTTTHHHEEENNNN

>> No.4692492

>>4692337
>It also pretty much auto detects anything form my Mobile phone, camera, everything.

Wait, that's an accomplishment?

Windows users must have it really rough if such small things can make you happy.

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Compression test on 1 and 10 .bmp images. First two are uncompressed .zip

>> No.4692507

>>4692493
Holy shit.

>> No.4692508

>>4692479
Things must be really diseased when you have to resort to double-bagging.

>> No.4692518 [DELETED] 

>>4692508
That's why I use 3 when I own your mom all night.

>> No.4692519

>>4692493
....
Well, shit.

>> No.4692551

>>4692493
Shit.

No wonder 7zip unzips everything if you just click one picture in the zip.

>> No.4692559

.rar for packing, .zip for programming since I've never found a good code example of unraring files in a smart way. (I did figure out how to unrar it all to a temp folder, but if you don't exit correctly you'd still have that temp folder lying around taking space)

>> No.4692608

>>4692303
>>4692340
It was only a test of normal usage.

>> No.4692754

I use WinRar, so I can't tell the difference anyways.

>> No.4692757

.tar.bz2

>> No.4692825

>>4692757
No.

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For the record I'm a Linfag since I do coding and actual work unlike the self-professed hikkis here.

>> No.4692884

I've often seen japanese use .dgc so it must be the better format.

>> No.4692887

Any format works as long as you can unarchive the fucking file.

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>>4692884

More like lhz is the best japanese archive ever. Unf unf hurt me more.

>> No.4692914

I use WinRAR to extract .rar and .zip, and I use 7-Zip to extract .7z and any .rar or .zip that has Japanese character and won't extract for whatever reason. 7-Zip extracts everything for me 100%, but takes 3 times as long, so I have both on my computer.

>> No.4692919

>>4692901
Well both are japanese so it really doesn't matter as long you don't fall for the usual western crap.

>> No.4692928

>>4692914
this

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>>4692914
>so I have both on my computer

>> No.4692943

>>4692914
run your stupid program in applocale then. Or just set your locale to something sensible, like, say, japanese.

>> No.4692956

>>4692943

Why the hell would I want to spend forever doing that when I can right click, choose 7-Zip, and be done with it? I'm not going to switch back and forth languages constantly when the options of "Extract with 7-Zip" and "Extract with WinRAR" are right next to each other and take a second to execute.

>> No.4692965

>>4692956
good point anon i retract my statement......

>> No.4695145

Compress to .zip usually, since win XP has native support for it.

When I'm archiving things then it's .7z

>> No.4695162

.cbr

>> No.4695165

I liked the tits vs ass thread better.

>> No.4695175

7z obviously.

How is this related to /jp/? Are you waiting for someone to mention stupid japanese compression formats?

>> No.4695200

what's wrong with ubuntu? you can still hack it to make it do pretty much anything you want it to do. for example take a look at crunchbang linux. besides dependencies hell, linux is fine for me. and doing shit in command line is actually not bad at all. unlike some people i grew up on dos (not windows)

>> No.4695244

>This thread
Oh I'm sorry I thought I was in /jp/. Pardon me for barging in /g/.

>> No.4695350

Windows users (aka children), how's it feel to know there's an entire group of individuals who are better at computers than you are? Meet GNU/Linux users. They are better than you.

They understand the hardware better, they understand the basic principles of computer science better, they know how networks work better than you. They understand the pros and cons of filesystems (including ntfs) because on linux, you get to choose FS's; they understand the principles behind operating system design because they run into phrases like "microkernel" and "monolithic kernels"; they can probably program, too, since learning a scripting language vastly improves productivity on linux (and this really pisses you off, since programming was one thing you always failed at on windows.) Oh, and they probably know windows better than you, since most advanced linux users these days are ex-windows users who managed to learn linux years ago, when it was much less user friendly.

At this point, a confident individual would admit to himself he has a lot to learn about linux and computers in general. But since you lack the self esteem to do that, you run back to windows, install farcry (or whatever) and keep repeating to yourself "at least I can run games. at least I can run games."

If you're looking for a job, all this hits you even harder, because you realize a lot of the jobs require linux in one way or another. Even many of the windows related jobs recommend linux! At this point, you rationalize "well the only thing I know is windows, so I must be a windows expert!" as if knowing only one thing makes you an automatic expert, or that learning linux forces you to forget windows entirely.

I already know Windows users will reply "troll" "0/10" etc because they have no argument.

>> No.4695368

.lzh

>> No.4695452

i don't think it's true a lot of jobs require linux. just take a look at the statistics on what % of firms use windows. probably the only place you'd use linux is within the field of scientific computing (which is the field i work in). you'll be working with large clusters and doing a lot of shit in fortran. scripting would likely be in R or maybe SciPy or Octave. a lot of people in industry - for instance web developers - use windows. linux is for scientists and academics mostly when performance really matters and you're not coding shit for other people to use but for research.

>> No.4695569

>>4695350
I have been using Linux as my daily driver since 2000. I have yet to feel the need to learn to script or program.

Fail Less.

>> No.4695608

>>4695569
i'd believe that. it depends on what you use it for. also you probably don't know what you could do with scripting to make your life easier since you don't know about it.
before spam filters, you could script a naive bayes filter. if you want to modify a large number of files in a certain way, you'd want a script to do that. heck i've used vb / vba and bat scripts in windows to make my life easier. why wouldn't you want to program to make your life easier regardless of OS is beyond me ...

>> No.4695650

>>4695452
You clearly know nothing.

>> No.4695667

For doujinshi and most other already compressed files it doesn't really make a difference. In fact, zip is superior in those cases unless you disable solid compression for rar/7z.
If you leave it on reading them will be much slower unless you extract them beforehand.

>> No.4695725

I use 7zip.

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