/jp/ - Otaku Culture

can't believe nips have the audacity to complain about names after what they've put me through

どっちのほうが有害？
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どちらがおいしいですか

トンテキ

ビフテキ

good morning minnasan
lets worship children today~ yosh gambatte!

>>46912539

566
>3D
>looks like an actual real-life pig

>>46912573
>>looks like an actual real-life pig
hot

>>46912539
woah

ちんぽてんと

is wanikani actually decent for learning kanji? I don't mind paypigging but I'm not convinced by the mnemonic gimmick so far, I'm on level 3 now and so far it's been easier for me to just remember the kanji by relating them to a word that has them, instead of the very long and arbitrary mnemonics

like for 口（くち）there's a story about a construction worker named "Kou" who has a handsome mouth which is how you're supposed to remember the reading.... or I can just think "it's the "kou" from 人口". 入 is nyuu and 力 is ryoku because 入力. etc

I dunno, maybe the mnemonics get more useful in later levels as the kanji get harder? I just like the way they do spaced repetition better than Anki and actually typing the answer in hiragana helps me remember.

no

>maybe the mnemonics get more useful in later levels as the kanji get harder?
that was my first thought after i looked up level 3 wanikani
kanji later on will become harder to distinguish

i still think the best way to learn kanji is through reading though

入口
nyuukou

>>46912539
https://streamable.com/9vou3k

>>46912539

>>46912746
yeah you're probably right. I'm going to stick with it for a while but wouldn't hurt to pick some book for kids with some basic vocab too

>>46912500
aw shucks that brings a bloom to my heart

i love women but i think its kinda sick for them to fish for attention from simps like this
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BDDfH7U3l0s

>>46912839
　３D
じっさいは見向きもされない

当事者がいうんだから間違いないですよ

>>46912889
tits too big

https://youtu.be/nz8uBS_QLY0
this lady rules and is the coolest japsnese womsn ive seen in forever barring like jun togawa

>>46913049
almost 20 years impressive for a dog
wonder what they fed him

>>46913049
:(

>>46913070
raw liver and organ meats

your mom feeds on raw dick

What is the tone of 仕方ない? If I say that to someone will they get mad?

>>46912730
Why not just do rtk and anki rather than paying $69420/mo for a less efficient method?

>>46913235
f#

>>46913235
絶対殺されるぞ

>go through old bookmarks of youtube videos
>This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.
i recently started to actually download videos that i like, because i realized bookmarking isnt enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R9Q2S0Lezc
yo this video is still up tho

>>46913308
at least with bookmarks you still see what video it was, i only get the following if i open a playlist
>利用できない動画は非表示になっています
and it wont tell me which videos are missing

>>46913235
志方ならあるよ(ㆁωㆁ*)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fnka_9Reg

>>46912539

>>46913308
personally, i just let it go
nothing is permanent in life

i always make sure to download everything since the infamous hololive copyright strike arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IVCwr6Q99I

>>46913358
i know what you mean but some videos are really good like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nmF9KxxWPw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rSTcZXDFKX8

>>46913358
except your Ls

>>46913358
true true

as for me, japanese is love-want-inducing zero-ga

>>46913404
i only remember Ws

>>46913428
dame cant afford the plane ticket

>>46913428

anyone know about Japanese grammars (文法書)?
like, English has the highly recommended "A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language"
does any go-to grammar exist for the glorious nipponese language?
I found books like 「日本語文法入門ハンドブック」 and 「基礎日本語文法」 but have absolutely no idea which one to go with

1hour anki and 6hours and 31mins of reading, today was a good day

>>46913463
tae kim

that's not a grammar thoughbeit

tae kim is trash lol

gammar is a meme just learn words

never post itt ever again

>>46913518
grammar might be but grammars aren't

>>46913520
based!

>>46913557
cute collection

>>46913520
based localizer tranny dabbing on eops

play 1 jrpg to learn katakana

wotd
過失致死

>stellar blade
>jrpg
二者択一の判断

its a jrpg but made in korea
its the same with darksouls, its a western rpg but made in japan

the fabled 140 iq ladies and gentlemen

>>46913520
you can smell the dilated front hole wafting off those tweets

>>46913520
mad respect

>>46913601
best show of 2023 although it got a bit retarded towards the end

>>46913235
ネリがイノウエナオヤにまけたのは仕方がない

https://files.catbox.moe/9oip2n.mp4

What is /jp/ recommended time tracker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94k03l8yKIA

>>46914046
wow im totally going to click this link to listen to shit music, thanks!

lil dude is tryna hit 1000 in the other thread
itd be a shame if someone started spite bumping him off the catalog rofl

youre sick bro get help

rise and shine squiddos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nmF9KxxWPw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLl145FqQg

>>46912730
>>46913259
simply use the wanikani anki deck for free.99

even quizmaster has arrived at the anti-anki position. or at least he's lukewarm toward it.

it's time anki tards move on.

dang 331 on that jetix tip

>>46914348
proofs?

>>46914205
the deed is done

proof by katite

>>46914352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOJsm9ubGk

ok but what if I want to read the full bredth of literature how long

yh idk bros

>>46914348
you guys should get together pool your resources and get some kind of guide to the alternative to the anki method to plug

guidefags in 2024 be like

pools closed bruv

>>46914408
one already exists you fucking idiot

https://migaku.com/download

yooo

still feel bad about the fact that i thought it was cool mattvsjapan publicly acknowledged race IQ stuff and i posted it here and then anacreon weaponized it in his deplatforming campaign against matt.

yoga is the dsp of the japanese nonlearning community

>>46914418
nice touch incorporating the flag of japan

>>46914429
this is so fuckin funny

>>46914418
thanks imma do that after anki

low iqs see it as the flag of japan

https://youtu.be/cGA6Tj9_lSg?si=lt4NoMf3BK1-_0iQ

>>46914418
>flaschard system built in
>ability to export to anki
>so smiliar there is just an anki deck for it
youre the fucking retard here

the next mattvsjapan

baited for that EXACT response

>>46914458
of course he has a nyagger thumbnail on a mahjong guide

Easier way to learn Japanese is to learn Chinese first, after that you already know 50% of Japanese, not to mention you get the extra benefit of knowing Chinese

hm yea and china is the future since the west is committing suicide. i think we all made a mistake focusing on japanese?

>>46912539
holy based

>>46914489
dude really though "Jouzu JEWS" was a good name

useless wotd
聖保羅
>彼は、一度この梵鐘の音[ね]を聞くと、聖保羅[さんぽうろ]の寺の鐘を聞いたよりも、一層、不快そうに、顔をしかめて、むしょうに畑を打ち始めた

im so n1 your so n none

>>46914500
disgusting eye brows and stubbly moustache

more like so n1663|2

remember that time after we kicked out jamal where there was no tripfags at all lets go back to that

someone tried to do that recently and lost that battle

it truly was an epic battle with both contestants sitting down in their recliner chairs sniffing their own farts the entire time. you had to be there

what that smell like

you tell me

today the おならs smell like うんち

mine are more like 花の露

must be on a plant diet

>>46914479
china only lives on selling shit to the west and they have 300 million people set to retire in the next decade. good luck
also don't say we all made a mistake, because one of my reasons for starting japanese was that witnessing japan collapse is going to be entertaining

>>46914713
香水浣腸 motherfucker

>>46914749
>and they have 300 million people set to retire in the next decade. good luck
lol yes. there's always some huge insurmountable problem that china will never overcome, until they overcome it. 300 million retirees oh no!!!!

>>46914756
xi jincoping

gdp is a flawed metric
the paradise on earth of japan is enough to show that

>>46914782
gdp growth i meant to say
i must be autistic too

finished ghost of tsushima and understood about 99% of it without a dictionary. i might be ready for muramasa.

you mean hell on earth

>>46914805
what was the 1%

i think it owns china has tons of big expensive townhomes and shit just abandoned and america has tweakers sitting in the dirt getting baked in the sun

>>46914479
china has too much censorship. they banned a few of my favorite xianxia webnovels. any novel that has sex, political criticisms, or gorey violence were censored. a decade ago people were straight up writing erotica in their adventure stories, but thats all banned. the harem genre took a big hit. it sucks and no one should support the ccp.

oh ghosts of tsushima got released on pc. maybe ill play it if it's not denuvo.

love him or hate him xi is based for banning kids from rotting their brains on sloppertainment for more than an hour a day

theres no denuvo, you can even get a cracked version to work with online play lol

>>46914884
oh so that's probably why so many of the sketchy chink porn sites hosted in hong kong or the us have written stuff on them

dang morgan spurlock dead at age 69

Lot of attractive prostitutes in China that can be had for pennies, you won't find that quality/value in Japan

why do u want prostitutes bro thats not healthy

>>46914862
sometimes theyd speak too fast and use too many words with ateji that i couldn't quite catch. wish there was a built in text backlog.

It's just really hot when they lay there like a dead fish while you go at them. You just know they are in a bad life situation/feel ashamed etc... that makes it even hotter

sociopath guy..

woah when did eiffel tower guy come back?
and hes going after chinks now too, new low even for a piece of shit like him

i miss jamal

hey thats life

How would DJT personally translate this sentence?

asking for translations is forbidden u have to pay for those

>>46915216
お察しですかい旦那

しまったJ to Jで訳しちまった(´・ω:;.:...

>>46915234
this is an experiment, I know the answer

looks like the experiment will fail cuz u didnt post urs first

>>46915216
>>46910981

>>46915216
>How would DJT personally translate this sentence?

i wouldnt

>>46915279
That would be corrupting the results of the response data.

it certainly would

>>46915216
I've come to accept being by myself?

>>46915293
the first response would also do that, so u fail at japanese and at designing experiments LOL

>>46915311
What are you gonna do about it?

uppercaser just got exposed begging for manga translations they just keep racking up those uppercase Ls

>>46915321
There's multiple translations of this manga of which I have access to

i have top secret translation clearance for this manga sir

acquired weniger (it means less)

just acquired

He just asked for one panel to be translated, this is the Japanese thread no? I don't see why that's not allowed certainly is more on topic than 99% of the other posts here

gentlesir stop pretending to be someone else also translation requests should be directed to >>>/int/djt

>>46915216
kachite ni?
kachite ni?

nothing better than when you got your goon cave cleaned up and looking tip top

holy cringe
imagine sitting in a room and watching hentai with a bunch of man babies

get on that yaoi tip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmHEFoJYJlU

>>46915394
that's crazy

>>46915574
fucking finally you're back. now the djt party can really start.

hide the munchies

>>46912573
Fag

problem?

um yah 605 thats gay thats the problem

dont forget your daily rock

i will not eat the rocks klaus

This thread is full of prudes

>>46915394
Did this stupid "otaku tradition" die as soon as the internet went global?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeMy_RmLIFA

>>46915216
>i've come to terms with it on my own!
ez can't believe you're struggling with that

average intelligence of a djter >>>/g/100638036

>>46915752
I knew it was a man from the thumbnail. What do I get?

>>46915768
>What do I get?
a kiss

763
>name one thing u can't find and ill send u an invite
>*anon masterfully names the thing*
>NOOOO NOOOOO NOT THAT ONE THATS CHEATING STOPPPP
u got btfo lil bro lol

>>46915782
Man, I hate this place.

long weekend boys lfg

I personally don't post on any other board besides /jp/ and /lgbt/

86 try again

>try to play harvest moon gba in jp to train my reading
>get filtered right away
i get filtered by a game made for kids... im ngmi...

>>46915804
Post what filtered you. I need a good laugh.

>>46915807
literally the intro

i only post on djt and that's enough for me

>>46915807
>>46898457

>>46915807

>>46915809
Literally how? This is quite possibly the easiest dialogue to follow.

>>46915804
you should hire a tutor and sit in their lap while you play, that way they can help you understand the japanese text while you play

>>46915853
my word knowledge is lower than my kanji knowledge

>>46915820
( ｰ`дｰ´)

>>46915880
nyehh!

>>46915880

>>46915875
Most of those words are in the core deck. You have no excuse.

is this bad retention? anyone have tips for remmebering things better.

>>46915906
remember a bunch of other related things

>>46915890
what core deck?

Best way to get better at grammar? Read about it conceptually then encounter it while watching / reading stuff or should I be doing some sort of drills
Anki works great for words but don’t think it would function well with grammar

>>46915906
>anyone have tips for remmebering things better.
read vinnies

>>46915925
i wat to but my daily reviews have been taking me 3 hours a day and its bedtime by the time i finish a lot of days. im gonna do a lot of reading today thouhg once my grindings over. i just wanted to do the new cards on 1.5k before may ended to catch up

>>46915919
the Core 2.3k or Core 2k/6k is an intro Anki deck with some of the most common words. Most people recommend it as a primer before reading.
The spiritual successor is the Kaishi 1.5k which is supposedly better, though I haven't personally looked through it.

>>46915924
Anki works the same for words as it does grammar. Just treat the grammar you encounter as vocabulary and you're good to go.

>>46915950
>Kaishi 1.5k
its shit. just read these taken from its description
>sentence is always on the front
completely defeats the point of a flashcard
>We mostly took data from Core2k, Core10k, Tango N4 and Tango N5
isn't this part worrying?
>sorted the words by frequency using various Yomichan/Yomitan frequency dictionaries and selected around 1500 words
they don't say who they used combined multiple frequency dictionaries
>We then fixed the translations for each word
which words did they changed? who did the change, some random n4?
>chose the best sentence for each word
what does this even mean
>fixed the sentence if it needed fixing. We had to fix roughly 120 sentences out of the 1500 we chose.
how do you "fix" a native japanese sentence?
>After this, we generated audio for words that were missing proper audio
so it is literally using robot speech shit
>We also generated furigana from AJT Japanese for the words and the sentences
probably wrong

>>46915960
Yeah, I figured as much. That's why I put the disclaimer.

>>46915950
Anki is for faggots and those who use it always score extremely low in every studies. They score extremely high in their confidence. Flashcards are the worst possible way to learn unironically go suck your d*ck somewhere else.

roundhouse kick a flashtard

>>46915938
are you trying to learn anki or japanese at that point?

matt says you can do the bulk of your language acquisition process in anki

>>46915975
i'm N1 and if i wanted to i could be N0. i speak better japanese than a native but go on. make me laugh you stupid esl monkey.

>>46915975
Yeah, all those successful doctors are idiots, am I right?

>>46915985
i wanna learn japanese

i wanna man

>>46915992
The studies are done using med and law students...

>>46916000
Sure, buddy, sure.

>>46915938
>my daily reviews have been taking me 3 hours a day and its bedtime by the time i finish
someone post the nuke streamable

>>46915995
then why are you wasting several hours a day on anki

>>46916008
Whatever you say "Mr. N0".

>>46915992
>>46916008
what do you mean "sure"? they are done using med students. are med students doctors? maybe in the future, but not at the time they participated in the study

女のくさった

brap on a mf

>>46915862
>>46915888

>>46916025
>>46916039

proof jamal only posts when the thread is gay

>>46916017
I like how you can't even tell a lowercaser and an uppercaser apart.
>>46916023
I have a family member who's a successful doctor, along with many of his peers, all on account of Anki, so I'm not really buying what you're selling.

i summon jamal

what can i say わたしはゲイ

even ime autocompletes it for me

You learn a language through input btw so if you’re struggling just watch more anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfxYLORjWCg

what 1 year of anki does to a mfer

kys

live yourself

cheeky friday night curry lads way hay

man
just look at this bug eyed cretin
he managed to make some tasty food utilizing his nation's average iq
but he is still a slave to rice, which is why he prepared a superfluous giant bowl of rice

djt is proof as time goes on society gets more degenerate

>>46916091
wheres the raw meat chunks

>>46916015
i thought it wasnt being wasted.

how long have u been learning japanese and how much of this do u understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t66VKF-cyhk

>>46916099
>djt is proof as time goes on society gets more degenerate
no just look at quizler, he went from a onahole-posting lolicon to having a career, wife, and son

>>46916099
those will be a side dish

>>46916113
what if he does degen shit with his wife or on the side

>>46915938
do you use auto reveal the answer timer?
start with 20s if you don't

>>46916130
yeah. over the 3 hours i do about 1200 reviews so im averaging 9 reviews a minute i just get bricked on some words

>>46916128
stop projecting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3m3RIOPJNw

watch this instead of goatis

>>46916139
i said what if so its not projection

>>46916135
>1200 reviews
well, with this amount of reviews that's okay, don't worry

>>46916144
we all know ur the biggest degen here, but u gotta put on a front to keep ur status

>>46916145
i was doing 50-200 new words a day and now ive dialed it back to 50 new words a day and just feel retarded and frustrated with such a high failure rate on reviews.

>>46916148
seems unlikely we have people that talk about soliciting prostitutes here

i wish i had a sister to practice kissing with

>>46916160
right, and whatever it is youre hiding must be worse since you wont even talk about it

>>46916100
it is if you're spending that much time on anki that you don't have time to immerse. you should ideally have it be less than 30 minutes a day and spend the time immersing

>>46916178
or anal

>>46916152
did nobody in the thread warn you this would happen? the djt community has failed you.

>>46916182
i aint got nothing to hide ive never done any deviant shit in my life really

real life and the internet are pretty different

>>46916189
just buy a dildo, you dont need a sister for that

>>46916178
or impregnation

gonna need dildo fuck machine guys opinion

>>46916194
your careful wording concludes you are a total degenerate online and the things you fap to would make satan cry

>>46916184
ive been watching around 3 hours of anime a day too. what should i be doing instead?

When I was a kid my Dad went to Australia for a year for work and left me and my mom behind. During that year my mom used to practice tongue kissing me

cant believe someones trying to pin me as a degen while fuckmachine guy is off in the corner letting a series of gears ream on his asshole as we speak

>>46916206
why would the wording conclude anything? is the wording somehow sentient?

wish i had a NBR sister to fuck and marry

>>46916216
just say what it is, whats the worst that could happen

i do goatse impressions on onlyfans

>>46916241
how much

Thoughts?

https://x.com/veritabledxzx22/status/1790698643890266137

>>46916273
i look like that

adult content? x out

i havent done jack shit in months

i havent jacked my shit in months

well what are u gonna do about it

I've got a stomach virus and I've done shit 15 times this morning already

>>46916148
stfu fat loser

>>46916354
just fast for 5 days
it will die

thats what i did and it didnt go away
go see a doctor bro
might be cancer

neighbor having loud sex again

>>46916494
ask to join

i wish i had a sister so i could hear her fuck through the wall

>>46916494
You can try putting a cup against the wall and then your ear against the base of the cup it amplifies the sounds from the next room and it really works. I used to do this to listen in on my older sister would be getting fucked by her bf in the room next to mine

>>46916507
>>46916509
woh

>>46916494
do you have a boner?

>>46916509
did you get a boner?

what kind of a gay question is that

takes like 2 hours to download and install a triple a game in 2024 it's crazy

more like triple gay

how often do y'all replace your pcs?

>>46916527
i was napping and her moans woke me up

on average every 3 years

>>46916547
about 8 years

I only use Macs, I'm not poor

it's over

a mac is still a pc albeit

i'd switch to apple products almost entirely if i had a job, just so that i'm not on the microsoft ecosystem. but i'm poor so a windows pc it is

>>46916580
bet

vinnies don't work on mac

i have a vintage apple ii that thing runs number munchers like u wouldnt believe

>>46916547
I bought one over 10 years ago and its still able to fit a 3060 and 32 GB RAM. Replace after 10, upgrade every 3-5 years

my pc is from 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3gFfYDsYg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nz22FGtdXA

>>46916709

I stop using windows once they shoved ads into the start menu

>>46916111
never tried to learn japanese

can understand only some choice bits

i'd be cheating since i read the lyrics once

boutta clap papis massive gyat

>>46916111
is there even any japanese in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wErpuu7bpic

cant believe this got a 2024 remix shits wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3WjRc4vdt0

>>46916728

wtf they made a sequel?

calm down killer

ok last 1

downloaded ghosts of tsushima 3 hours ago and still haven't been able to launch it. the state of gaming in 2024.

get fucked、gamers

>>46916904
do u use windows? windows bros i thought ur os was so great and everything just works?

>>46916915
im using unsupported software (windows 10). if i had upgraded to windows 11 this would never have happened.

okay deejay, explain to me right now the difference between
廊下に絵を描きました
and
廊下で絵を描きました

>>46916933
one makes sense

>>46916933
に here implies a more direct connection between the action and the place. ie if you say the first one that hallway is the place that you draw, while で means that you drew in a place that happened to be the hallway

>>46916933
i drew a picture on the corridor [wall/floor]
i drew a picture while standing in the corridor

direct connection from foot to ass

>>46916952
wrong
wrong

i was only explaining 1 thing so there can't be 2 wrongs

meanwhile on r/learnjapanese old.reddit.com/comments/1czfpx7

>>46916904
seems to work on gnu+linux https://www.protondb.com/app/2215430?device=steamDeck

gonna need papis take on new jeans latest single album

>>46916933
廊下に絵を描きました :|
廊下で絵を描きました :O

the 2nd one. but also, that's an unfair characterization of a great movie from besson.

personally im more excited for jorts

wearing jorts is powerful sigma energy

i havent worn jorts in 20 years i usually go for lighter material shorts

>>46917034
a wolf with his fangs pulled..

well the problem with jorts is u cant just casually jump in a pool in them and then get out and be dry in minutes

>>46916941
I love the DJT-patented, pulled-it-out-my-ass answers.
It’s like watching some Japanese guy try to explain the differences between “why?” and “how come?”

looks like the two most intelligent minds in existence agree on this one

>>46916933

>>46917070
>like the wall or the floor
yes, drawing on a wall or floor makes sense. drawing on a corridor does not make sense, so its an incorrect sentence written as-is

>>46912490
Official DJT guide https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

[!] must be included in the OP [!]

Sorry, wrong link. I meant https://learnjapanese.moe/
Oh wait, this is already included in the OP. I apologize.

can u guys start putting an actual good guide in the op from now on like this one

https://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org/

>>46917092
You spelled “you’re” wrong, though.

ur gay

>>46917092
guides dont work, we need to start going into people's houses and threatening them to learn japanese

break into their houses and shove amphetamines down their throats

if u ever encourage someone to "learn" japanese u are basically worse than satan

>>46917120
what if all they would ever amount to would be learning japanese? so if you don't force them then they will be nothing.

>>46917120
then what should i tell people that are sick of shit like this

124
dno

135
stop consuming the latest slops

>>46917078
except you can find plenty examples of natives using it like that
http://youji-no-shiro.hibinosekkei.com/?eid=1033122#gsc.tab=0
stop translating things into english in your head to decide if it makes sense

>>46912730
>is wanikani actually decent for learning kanji?
read this https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/what-are-the-downsides-of-using-wanikani

If you want to learn Japanese, I recommend not wasting time on wanigarbage and go with the JP1K method.

>>46917085
One thing I can tell you for sure is that if you've been duped into following Mehmet's Them***y guide, your best option is to stop now. He just copied what matt said, changed a couple things and put his patreon links all over it. His half-assed "guide" is full of malware, and he scams people for donations.
Beginners, be sure to use only the official /jp/ guide by Tatsumoto if you want to make it.

>>46917151
>plenty examples of natives
bruh there like 1 google page of tweets and blogs backing u up here u know

>>46917152
this was already debunked by flood guy though >>/jp/thread/46229812#p46234273

>>46917168
how often do you think people draw on corridor walls and post about it online
it's a valid sentence and no native would claim it's unnatural or incorrect

>>46917179
>draw on corridor walls
lol even u cant force yourself to say it wrong

>>46917151
>stop translating things into english in your head to decide if it makes sense
lmao

what does /djt/ think of my pronunciation?
https://vocaroo.com/1oiouCqp5Bu3

>>46917188
can you not tell the difference between english and japanese

>>46917085
This moeway guy doesn't know English or Japanese. He's an ESL who spends all day spamming his poorly written "guide" on 4chan so that people give him money on Patreon. Pretty pathetic.
If you want to learn Japanese, follow people who actually know jack shit when it comes to learning a foreign language. Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese is among them.

>>46917167
im proud of myself for naming floodguy

>>46917194
*farts in ur face*

>>46917194
Sounds a little AI, lil sis.

>>46917188
you realize that japanese is a context heavy language and english isn't
you need to explicitly state wall for it to make sense in english. you don't in japanese. it's that simple

>>46917217
>>46917203
honestly i cant tell if ur trolling or retarded. just gonna assume the latter since /djt/ is dead

>who actually know jack shit
You don't know jack shit. Quit lying.

concession received

>>46917193
what's your issue
japanese should be judged in the context of japanese not how it sounds when you translate it to english

>>46917167
I can't open this website. What's written there?

hinative guy we need to ask the natives how they feel about 廊下に絵を描いた

>>46917231
Japanese should be judged objectively. The idea, whether translated properly or understood in its original form, should be understood based on its semantic meaning. Translating it doesn't affect that.

https://vocaroo.com/bdjKhszzg8c

>>46917244
native's just gonna be like lol u drew in the hallway

i wish gpt5 was here (coming within 6 months apparently) to solve this problem

legendary post >>26653194

>>46917248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnlPtaPxXfc
also jamal impersonator

Once an ai rolls out that can auto translate language w/100% accuracy/context you fools will realize you wasted years of your life learning Japanese

>>46917245
it obviously does affect that since there's a ton of shit in japanese that would sound incredibly nonsensical if you said it as if it was english

>>46917267
no im not interested in reading english

gpt4o

>>46917276
>factual
why is it claiming this as a fact without evidence?

>>46917276
with で

>>46917270
There's nothing nonsensical if you translate balancing sense-for-sense and word-for-word. Japanese is a 100% solved language for translation.

boring thread this one

>>46917288
it's not about whether it makes sense in translation the point is you can't literally just say certain japanese phrases and have it make sense as english so it's pointless to use english as a way of deciding whether a japanese phrase sounds correct

>actual ppl asking questions about learning Japanese and helping each other
boring thread

>faggots posting about wanting to rape ppl, off topic spam, videos of Chinese women pissing themselves
great thread guys!

I hate everyone here

>>46917303
eh people are purely shitposting with the gpt stuff actually.

>>46917299
Well, whether a sentence "sounds correct" is based on a person's experience with the language. Obviously we don't criticize the grammar and semantics of Japanese text in English, but that's not to say that you couldn't present the conundrum objectively to someone in English.

Chat GPT is a lazy fraud

>>46917317
>>46917317
>Obviously we don't criticize the grammar and semantics of Japanese text in English,
that's what's happening here though

there is more to making sense than grammar.
>we went to dinner and soup ordered Jerry.
this is grammatically correct, so the esl that wrote it definitely didnt make a mistake

>>46917322
Well, 1. the people here are retarded and don't understand that both で and に are going to be marking the location of the action, not the indirect object like some anon's think. And 2. everyone in here is extremely retarded.

so how do you say: i drew a picture on the walls in the hallway

>>46917324
what you are saying is like some japanese guy translating "the white house lost a key battle on health care reform" into japanese directly and claiming it makes no sense because the physical white house can't fight any battles. just because a word has some extra properties in one language doesn't mean it's the same or not in all languages

>>46917336
its implicitly understood that if america is fighting a battle, its the losing side

>>46917331
廊下にある壁に絵を描きました

>>46917330
>that both で and に are going to be marking the location of the action, not the indirect object like some anon's think.
some natives you mean?
https://ja.hinative.com/questions/18637569

>>46913259
>Why not just do rtk
Because RTK is not as effective as JP1K. JP1K is the best way for someone learning japanese through self-study. See https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kanji

>>46917350
kek, show anybody this when they think Japanese people are the final authority on the interpretation of their own language.

show anybody this when they think uppercasers are the final authority on the interpretation of their own language.
>>46898457

廊下 is the problem not で or に

r u guys still losing ur minds i thought it made it really simple here >>46917011

>>46917386
Starting to think you wrote that sentence yourself, considering how many times you keep referencing it.

funny how the uppercaser thinks に cant mark the indirect object. how do you think "he draw a picture on x" is constructed then?

>>46917357
is jp1k that deck that matt and yoga made years ago that sorted the rtk components by frequency and cut out over half of them, or just inspired from it

>>46916933 here
i already have the answer from a textbook complete with illustrations, i just thought it would be interesting to see what people here say

>>46916941
>>46916952
are correct

>>46917401
When did I say it can't mark the indirect object? That's one of its main functions. I just don't think that's the first interpretation someone looking at the sentence is going to think without any context.

>I just don't think that's the first interpretation someone looking at the sentence is going to think without any context.
they literally did though
>https://ja.hinative.com/questions/18637569
and here too
>https://ja.hinative.com/questions/14607917
is it possible you just have no idea what you are talking about?

>>46917412
post a pic of the textbook

uppercaser has not done well today u love to see it

>>46917422
Both answers feature laughably bad English.
>I drew a picture "at" the hallway.
>i drew a picture ( on a paper )on a corridor
lmfao

>>46917433
maybe because they are native japanese people so they such at english almost as bad as you suck at japanese? the point is what they are trying to say here
also the 2nd link has a guy with perfect spanish explain the exact same concept if you prefer

Hey, Jamal, was 万 1,000 or 10,000? I can't remember. Mind Google Translating it for me?

>>46917437
If they suck at English, then they aren't exactly reliable interpreters are they now? lol

latest demoralization just dropped

>>46917454
its extremely obvious what they are trying to say regardless of whether it sounds good. the point is they instantly understood the sentence in the way you said they wouldnt and now you are trying to cope by claiming their poor english prevents you from understanding what they mean

>>46917467
I'm not even sure they understand what they're trying to say. I've seen so many Japanese people give wrong interpretations of Japanese sentences because they can hardly speak English. They ironically end up making the same mistakes English speakers do when interpreting.

>>46917479
you have insane dunning kruger syndrome lol
>no its the natives who are wrong