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46540778 No.46540778 [Reply] [Original]

Just because these ladies are past their prime doesn't mean we shouldn't love them any less!

>> No.46540855
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Lovely COUGARS

>> No.46540903
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>>46540855
Begone haggies.

>> No.46540921

I like to imagine that all the hags are at least 2 meters tall.

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>>46540921
Imagine a 2.5 meter tall cakehu, self-concious of her impending hagification.

>> No.46540985

>>46540778
How many hags are there?

>> No.46541075
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>>46540985
an amount

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>>46540946
I would donate my life savings to Aya if she gave me those sacred garments
I'm not proud of it, but I would do it anyway. The impending violent death once lady Kazami finds out where they ended up would be no payment at all compared to the bliss I would get from owning them for even a short amount of time.

>> No.46541175

>>46541075
Isn't, for instance, Aya a hag?

>> No.46541194

>>46540778
Too old for me

>> No.46541262
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I wish we could talk about these 2hus without everyone brainlessly spamming "hag" and about how old they are the entire fucking time.
It's all so tiresome.

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>> No.46541281
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Pick a hag

>> No.46541331

>>46541262
Well be the change you want to see. So let’s start now.
What would you like to talk about with them?

>> No.46541343

>>46541331
About sex.. with the old elderly woman.

>> No.46541383
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Isn't Ran 8-900yo? "Hag" which is short for "Haggard" means looking exhausted and unwell, especially from fatigue, worry, or suffering.

"Hag" doesn't really fit any of the girls. Maybe Chiyari? Maybe you are just requesting a thread about the characters with the greatest longitivity or the ones that visibly look the most mature?

>> No.46541388

>MMD Ranfag

>> No.46541398
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>>46541388

>> No.46541409

>>46541383
just old wimmins.

>> No.46541442
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Then many of the girls fit that criteria relative to the human lifespan.

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>>46541398

>> No.46541476

>>46541343
Peepee into mature vagoo?

>> No.46541517

>>46541476
>AND JAM IT IN!

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>>46541517
Ouchies!

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>>46541275
Left: 21 years old
Right: 10.000+ years old

>> No.46543405

>>46540778
Excuse me all these ladies are 17

>> No.46543411

>>46543405
Oh they're 17 something alright, but it's not years.

>> No.46543418

>>46543411
Don't say that you're making me cry

>> No.46543419

>>46543405
...inches?

>> No.46543439

>>46541262
This. Especially considering that the idea of some kind of passing prime doesn't really apply to immortal beings.
>>46541331
I would honestly just love to ask them their life story and go from there. Like what is it like to be an actual god? An immortal buddhist magician? A ghost princess? The former smartest person on the Moon, now immortal? A being of vast power that can change "boundaries", whatever that means?

>> No.46543478

>>46543439
I personally would ask them for general life advice sense all of them probably have experience when it comes to living

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I would ask for her phone number so we can dial up to each other and play Hexen.

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>>46540778
CURSE YOU ZUN
CURSE YOU FROM STRIPPING AWAY BYAKUREN OF HER CAPE
ONE OF THE BEST DESIGNS IN THE FRANCHISE FUCKING RUINED
CURSE YOU AND YOUR BLOODLINE

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>>46543660
You don't sound okay

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>>46543741
Im not okay, Im fucking PISSED.

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There is no need to be upset.

>> No.46544034

>>46543439
who do you think has the best life story? I'd like to hear Yukaris

>> No.46544048

>>46544034
NO ANON, you don't know what you're doing
All she's going to do is talk about Renko and how similar you both are

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>>46544034
"You see Anon, about two thousand years ago I wa—"
"Wow that was a long time ago! Did you see any dinosaurs?"
"…"

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>>46540778
Can she join?

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>>46543439
I'd like to hear Eirin's stories about her past experiments on the Moon.
"When the patient woke up, his skeleton was missing, and the doctor was never heard from again!"

>> No.46544535

>>46544452
At least you won't have to worry about her keeping the kid if you knock her up

>> No.46544542

>>46544452
No, she sucks.

>> No.46544544

>>46544535
What the hell do you mean, "if"?

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>>46544034
That would be the most interesting if she was willing to tell it. But I think even if she liked you she would be really cagey about or just make up some bullshit about her Merry life.
Yuuka wouldn't have some grand narrative but she'd likely have a lot of interesting stories to tell, and probably not much of a filter.

>> No.46544840

>>46544452
I can fix her

>> No.46544870

>>46544452
the forbidden hag
the "18" year old

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>>46544542
Whose cock?

>> No.46545181
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the taste of booze and smoke

>> No.46545301

>>46545181
my heart skipped a beat... maybe the ancients were right... maybe tanuki sex is the option...

>> No.46545379

>>46545301
Tanuki sex is never the option. Don't fall for their tricks.

>> No.46545466

>>46545181
Reeks of smoke and booze. Her biohazard of a tail is so stiff she can sit on it, it's stuffed with funk, grime, sweat, body oils, and whatever garbage she swept up off the ground with it. Standing near her for any length of time is enough to make you gag. When she's not blackout drunk she's insufferable and condescending, yet she lacks confidence as evident by her """disguise""" which further reflects on the poor quality of her character. Truly she is the poster child of everything wrong with Tanuki if you needed a reason to hate them, her compulsive need to lie and deceive is just icing on the expired christmas cake. Stop pretending to be sagely and get exterminated already you wrinkled tramp.

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>>46545181
Bet I can outdrink her.

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you think it's the good type of stink or is she on the same level as that rancid chupacabra?

>> No.46545513

>>46540778
>past their prime
With all due respect sir, I think your opinion is wrong and smell of canine feces.
Those perfectly mature ladies are in their prime!
t. mature ladies enjoyer

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>>46545492
She smells like a slaughterhouse with a hint of woodsmoke, but maybe she takes dips in rivers or lakes sometimes. Also has a muff like the back end of a deer.

>> No.46545733

>>46545651
God yes
She's perfect

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>> No.46547640

>>46544586
hope you like talking about flowers

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When I accidentally call her Mommyzou

>> No.46548563

>>46544586
"Want to hear about that time I beat up Satan? It was pretty cool, I even got a cute maid out of it. A pity that I didn't need one, but it was still the best fun I've had in a while."
And then she goes into graphic detail on how she hurt all the makai people she found, deliberately ignoring the growing uncomfortable atmosphere around her because she's standing between you and the exit.

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>>46548490

>> No.46548926

>>46545466
Good thing Ran always washes and grooms her fluffy tails!
>>46545476
Anon, it's a trap! She's pretending to be black out drunk! When you get close enough she's doing to drain you!

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>>46548490
"Are you an idiot...?"
"What's the fun in teasing this old hag..."

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Bake bread with Yuuka. Put a bun in her oven!

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>>46548944
Teasing?

>> No.46550483

>>46545492

She'll smell like Shrek's Asshole.


Depending on who you ask, that may be a good or bad thing.

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>>46545181
>>46545466
I never paid too much attention to that tanuki, but these posts make me think otherwise as I am a sucker for sinfully smelly women who are into trickery.

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>> No.46556295

>>46549007
Plant wife and bug daughter

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>>46544198

>> No.46558587

>>46540778
A young man enters the bar during Hag night , who gets to him first ?

Do they do it based on seniority or is it first come first serve ?

>> No.46559291

>>46558587
Whoever rapes him first

>> No.46559330

>>46558587
Excuse you it's "Girls Night" and we would let him draw near and whoever wins him over with their maidenly charm wins.

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Hag feet

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>>46559330
Get off 4chan, Yukari.

>> No.46559478

>>46559379
What about them?

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>>46559478
I love them, way too much

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these fine young ladies had a little too much to drink

>> No.46561561

>>46559330
Okay but do you girls have an agreement on which one of you gets to 'charm' him first.

>> No.46561640

>>46559494
Same…

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>>46544198
Anon, no! That's one of her special interests!
Now you'll be stuck with her all day as she tells you everything she knows about the fucking stegosaur or something.

>> No.46561724

>>46560642
I'm going to die!

>> No.46562898

>>46560642
Hello ladies

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>>46561724

>> No.46563616

For me it's Mamizou and Yukari, I want to be taken by the pair of them.

>> No.46563678

>>46560642
I mean Byakurens already naked and pouring sake all over herself so I think I got a chance.

>> No.46563689

>>46563678
You're going to be sore for weeks.

>> No.46563757

>>46563689
Buddy I ain’t surviving the night, nirvana awaits from inside those immortal thighs

>> No.46564045

I sometimes think about how terrible getting older must be for a hag enjoyer. I can only imagine the slow pain of seeing yourself become the same age as the women you once lusted after for their age and experience, and eventually seeing them become younger women too.

I know this doesn't exactly apply the same way to supernatural hags but the physical difference in appearance is still there.

>> No.46564094

>>46564045
I'm over here trying to enjoy some nice ladies why did you have to get all philosophical and ruin the mood ?

>> No.46564120

OLD HAGS
WARNING
WARNING

>> No.46564168

>>46564120
Very rude to say that about them. How do you think they feel about being called hags ?

>> No.46564170

>>46560642
My penis would be passed around them like a blunt rotation and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>> No.46564506

They call me Hagalicious esquire. I am a professional in dealing with Ample Mature Ladies.

>> No.46564964

>>46564094
It weighs heavy on the mind as a 30 year old geezer...

>> No.46564993

>>46564964
I just hope that Hags become real before that point

>> No.46566303

>>46564045
Thats when you become the experience one that "teaches" younger unexperienced ones. That is the circle of life.

>> No.46566445

>>46544467

You'll end up hearing about all of the atrocities she has probably committed

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>>46566445
"Oh wow, you really did that? Hahaha, don't know why he screamed so much, I would've gladly taken his place."
"...Anon, he died."
"I know what I said."

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>> No.46568358
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look at these vibrant and youthful schoolgirls

>> No.46568366

>>46566303
A geezer to shape the young women of today into the hags of the future for the young men of their era to enjoy...

>> No.46568509

>>46540778
Why isn't Aya considered a hag? She's over a thousand years old.

Suwako also should be considered one since she's probably older then Kanako

>> No.46568517

>>46568509
Despite what the word implies, hag is a body type not unlike MILF.

>> No.46568725

>>46568517
Than Yuyuko isn't a hag, she's eternally young because she's a ghost, I think she even brings it up at some point.

>> No.46568825

>>46563616
This but spitroasted on their massive futa cocks.

>> No.46569193

>>46568725
How old was Yuyuko when she died? Do we know that?

>> No.46570144

>>46568725
But she is, by those definitions. She is often drawn with the proportions of a hag. That's really all it takes to be considered one.

>> No.46570181

>>46541262
le haggidy hag hags! xdddddd

>> No.46570209

>>46570144
You could draw any 2hu with saggy tits

>> No.46570238

>>46570144
Her only friend is the eternal 17 year old so Im not sure shes really that much older then her

>> No.46570429

>>46564120
OLD HAGS
RUNNING THE WORLD

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>>46568725
Found it, Yuyuko is a(n eternally) young lady

>> No.46570489

I know this is a longshot but I remember there was some writer guy who made a whole post about a young man accidentally entering a ladies night at a bar and getting assaulted by the ladies. Was that ever finished and If so dose anyone have a link to it ?

>> No.46573705

>>46570489
I remember what your talking about and I'm pretty sure it was a short one shot and not anything longer

>> No.46573711

>>46573705
I swear it extended into the guy being sent of to Kanako for a day. The guy said he'd continue it but I havent found anything

>> No.46574548

>>46570209
Yes, but it also heavily depends on what the art community as a whole decides their primary fanon body type is. Like how Yuugi is portrayed as being big and muscular despite nothing about her original art implying that she is.

>> No.46575769

>>46570209
not him but which one?

>> No.46575794

>>46575769
Like who's to say Aya doesn't have saggy tits?

>> No.46576195
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>>46575794
maybe too big.

>> No.46576291

>>46576195
Just slightly.

>> No.46576617

>>46576195
Now do Yuuma.

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>> No.46577688

>>46577222
Lady you need a bra ASAP.

>> No.46578671

>>46570452

Makes sense as how would you even age after you're a ghost?

She's not a walking corpse so she wouldn't rot...

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>>46577222
EW! Saggy haggy!

>> No.46579356

>>46579031
Good lord above a man could live and thrive between Yukari’s Yakumos here.

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hags throwing out there hips trying to do cheer routines

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>>46583680
oopsie!

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>>46579031

>> No.46587873

>>46587181
God I want to gently massage her back and apply ointment while she whines

>> No.46587911

>>46583680

Yuuka and Eirin definitely were forced to do this

>> No.46588227

>>46540778
I prefer the younger version (Marry) because that way I get to enjoy a younger girl and see her body slowly develop into an older woman

>> No.46588324

>>46588227
Too bad she kinda dislikes men...

>> No.46588337

>>46588324
Where dose it say that?

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Eirin would probably be the best all around. Her skills as a doctor and knowledge of anatomy would absolutely translate into giving some phenomenal orgasms. Not even going into any drugs or aphrodisiacs she has access to.

Byakuren would be a runner up. In the situation she's actually having sex you have a chance to break a dam holding back some 1000 years of sexual repression. The passion that would flow out of her would be unending as she falls into lust.

Other misc hags (Kanako, Maizomu, etc) slot in here, nothing too much to make them stand out compared to the two above.

Yuuka would be similar to Byakuren with the lust dam but to a lesser degree. I suspect she'd lean more into femdom when she gets in the mood though, and at your expense it may not be gentle.

Yukari in concept would be great because gap play but in reality she would probably get bored halfway through because that's just the kind of person she is. Although there is the potential for Ran tag team, who would be much better at sex than Yukari.

Yuyuko without a doubt would be worst. Dead fish tier.

>> No.46590052

>>46590025
>Yuyuko
>Worst
>Dead fish
Pick one?

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>>46590025
>Yuyuko not giving godly fellatio
Just admit you don't like her at that point. She would definitely chow down on your cock like Youmu's cooking.

>> No.46590109

>>46590094
>teethy blowjob
No thank you.

>> No.46590117

>>46590025
>Dead fish tier
*Pillow princess tier.

>> No.46590215
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>>46590025
>>46590094
Yeah, I call bullshit too. Yuyuko probably spit-shone Youki's mighty sword for hours every night until Youmu was old enough to take over the duty, anyway. She's also liable to have a looser throat than Yoshika. You could cram your whole forearm in there, let alone your dick.

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>>46590109
Don't worry, yuyuko will be gentle!

>> No.46590392

>>46590215
Dude that's disgusting Yuyuko would've seen him like a father figure, not even touching on Youmu. You're disgusting, I hope Eiki sends you to Hell

>> No.46590722

>>46590025
>Although there is the potential for Ran tag team, who would be much better at sex than Yukari.
Ran would sneak her fingers into your butthole while you're fucking Yukari.

>> No.46594827

>>46590025
What about Okina?

>> No.46594893

>>46590025
>Yukari in concept would be great because gap play
Alright but picture this: Yukari throats you but in her throat is a gap connecting to her vagina.

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>> No.46595774

>>46594893
Make it Reimu's vag00 and I'm game

>> No.46595812

>>46595298
Where is the hag ?!

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>>46595298
No.
You've destroyed something truly wonderful, Yukari.
There is not enough water in the world to wash your hands of this sin.

>> No.46596131

Real question. We know that Touhou Hags are only friends because they are all equally lonely and desperate . Do you see any of them being actual friends outside the meetings and if so who and why

>> No.46596135

>>46596131
Yes if you are a hag yourself

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I want to sit with and have a drink with her

>> No.46596187

>>46596131
Not at all, besides Yuyuko and Yukari.
Each and every one of them are competing for scarce resources, there is simply no room for charity in this battle.
Eirin once came across Yuuka whilst looking for medicinal plants, and the tension between them was so icy it briefly gave Cirno superpowered abilities. The level of passive-aggressive insults bruised some nearby minor youkai, from the sheer barely restrained ultra-violence being emitted by the two.


And that's how Medi got two moms!

>> No.46596198

>>46596177
She seems like she would be a fun person to drink with. While the oni also sound like good times, with them it's only a matter of time before they try to do something physically oriented and injure you in the process.

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>>46596198

>> No.46596309

Does yuyuko even belong in hag tier? Her ghost body is from when she was like 17.

>> No.46596321

>>46596309
Yukari's body is also very youthful. a Hag is a state of mind somoni who has 0 friends , 0 chances with a man , no social awareness and probably watches romcoms all day

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>>46596309
Hagitude is a state of mind. Yuyuko spends her days at home, killing time, overeating and bullying a younger woman, all the while pretending to be a ditzy young lady. She's a hag by lifestyle. Well, afterlife-style.

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>>46596309
tei and suwako are older than most of them as well. it's mostly based on vibes

>> No.46600527

>>46596348
god could you imagine Tewi showing even an ounce of her true hag energy
it would be overwhelming

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>>46564120
>>46570429
The checks and balances of democratic governments were invented because human beings themselves realized how unfit they were to govern themselves. They needed a system, yes, an industrial-age machine

>> No.46601066

>>46600715
Wouldn’t the fact that humans devised and implemented, albeit with some flaws, said checks and balances for the system reinforce the fact that we’re capable of self-governance? Nice try yook hags.

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Who triumphs?
Who do you want to triumph?

>> No.46601179

I wonder who Yukari abd Okina feel about tge fact thst they are considered hags but Kasen, a fellow sage, isn't

>> No.46601181

>>46601132
The one you feed

>> No.46602452

>>46601132
Yukari would not beat Kanako in a pure test of strength.

>> No.46602496

>>46601179
how drunk are you

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>>46602452
the artist also thinks so, Kanako is very confident and is pushing Yukari pretty far

>> No.46605126

Any reason why Junko and Okina were never added to the hag group?

>> No.46605155

>>46605126
they're a bit too bitchy and loony.

>> No.46605160

>>46601179

Kasen is a member of the hag group 100%

>>46605126
Junko is quite literally a milf

Okina is a hag and one of the more younger memebers

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>>46605160
Forgot to attach the image

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>>46601179
Kasen is a hag that disguises herself as a shota molesting onee san

>> No.46605269

>>46605160
>Kasen is a member of the hag group 100%
she's just another nee-san among many others.

>> No.46605293

>>46605126
Junko has canonically had sex. She also does not care about sex at all. She does not give out hag energy. Trying to seduce her or get her in bed would lead nowhere. The only way she'd ever have sex is if she was trapped in a room and couldn't get out without doing it, and she'd only do it because it's in the way of killing Chang'e. You'd nut and she'd move on immediately.

>> No.46605298

>>46602496
I did have a couple of drinks, how did you figure that out?

>> No.46605422

I think it is time that we once and for all settle the ranks of the Old Maid Alliance:

The fact of the matter is that the original members and founders of the council were:
-Mima (MIA)
-Shinki (MIA)
-Yuuka

Out of these 3 fine ladies 2 have sadly gone missing leaving Yuuka Kazami as the sole survivor of the original founders.

Up next we have the officers of the Old Maids Alliance society:
-Yukari
-Yuyuko
-Eirin
-Byakuren
-Kanako

All these fine young ladies are the most important members of the Alliance and are a well respected for their position.

Next we have the Middle Management Experienced Ladies who are full members of the council but are not as prestigious as the before mentioned:
-Okina
-Junko (Despite her lack of interest in the organisation she is still a very important member)
-Hecatia (Just look at how she dresses)

After them we have the regular members of the council , they participate in the events although they lack the voting power of the others:
-Seiga
-Urumi
-Mamizou
-Ran
-Yuugi
-Eiki

Lastly we have the associates who are connected and work along with the group but are yet perhaps if they prove themselfs the books will open:

-Letty
-Keine
-Sakata
-Hisami

If I did happen to miss anyone please do bring it up getting all this information was quite dangerous as I had to get really close to the Monthly Old Maids Alliance meetings.

>> No.46605466

>>46605293
I wonder if Junko can even cum, or even feel pleasure from sex at at all.

>> No.46605484

Ran or Letty should replace Byakky in the high council.

>> No.46605732

>>46605484
Yukari would not allow her subordinate to ascend to such a rank just yet. Letty however has the makings of a leader and a officer however her sleep is quite problematic in this

>> No.46605748

>>46605422
Why is Sakata under Urumi?

>> No.46605757

>>46605748
She's very isolationist and doesn't like to talk to anyone that much. Id doubt she's social enough to get to a very high position

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>> No.46606464

>>46605484
>>46605732
Letty is too fat sorry

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>>46601066
Humans had to arrange themselves in crude structures that formalized decision-making - a highly imperfect, unstable solution

>> No.46606682

>>46606675
If one of us [me] agrees to date the arts and crafts god, will she leave the rest of us alone?

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>>46606682
Probably, but then, all that controlling personality would be focused on one person

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>>46596329
>all the while pretending to be a ditzy young lady.
How's that working out for her?

>> No.46607208

>>46602552
She couldn't find a man to do that for her? Sad!

>> No.46607236

>>46605422
Which of the 5 officers have the highest chance of getting laid? Maybe Eirin can trick a male patient with some bullshit treatment.

>> No.46608656

>>46607236
in order: yuyuko>eirin=byakky>yukarin=kanako.

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>>46605422
Elly has finally conceded defeat and accepted her auntiness and future as a hag by allowing Yuuka to introduce her to the Alliance as a prospect member. Sacchan has been pestering her mom for an introduction for years, but Shinki is still in full denial and believes that her eldest daughter will eventually meet a guy and have kids someday, instead of becoming a thousand year old virgin like Kanako.

>> No.46609227

>>46607178
Secondaries fall for it all the time.

>> No.46609262

>>46609179
>accepted her auntiness
You make it sound like a disease...

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The reason why Yuuka no longer shows up for hag meetings

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This thread smells like my grandma's house

>> No.46609318

>>46606944
bug segs

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>> No.46610330

>>46605422
I would like to mend a mistake I have made by forgetting to add Iku (Regular Member) and Kasen (Middle Managment) Despite both of their happiness due to them not being included I was informed about this mistake by a threatening letter that came in my mailbox. The letters author is unknown but has the scent of coffee , red wine , baked cookies and is quite musty.

>> No.46610528
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>>46605422
>Junko
>Hecatia
Junko was married and had a kid, and Hecatia is a volcel. The old maid club would never accept them.

>> No.46610776

>>46608656
Why Yuyu that high?

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>>46610776
Have you seen her?
She's probably the least artistic person there. That's it, that's the requirements.

>> No.46610807

>>46610776
her gluttony is a sign of weakness toward carnal pleasures.

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>>46610796
>artistic
Which one is best at arts n' crafts?

>> No.46611334

>>46605126
>>46605160
Junko and Okina are most definitely in the hag group

The more iffy ones are ones like Ran, Yuuka, Kasen and seiga

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Is your hag in shape?

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>>46611282
Keiki, aka arts and crafts Junko.

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We need to clearly draw the line between cakes and hags. 2hus like Iku, Seiga, Kasen and Megumu give out cake energy instead of hag energy despite their actual age. Then we have wild cards like Sannyo

>> No.46611608

>>46611282
that old lady made a much more interesting piece of art than raphael did

>> No.46611630
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>>46611365
Her shape is round.

>> No.46611659

>>46610528
Junko is a hag no matter what you say. She WAS married and HAD a kid as you said yourself. Today she's lonely and yearns for the once warm embrace of her late son and husband.

Its easy for Hecatia to try and call herself a volcel to escape the hag stamp. She matches most of the criteria to be a hag. Her dress style only adds to this its clear she wishes to get with a man and wants to get pampered.

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>>46611659
I think Junko might be Udongesexual

>> No.46611803

>>46611706
Where the hell did this ship come from ?

>> No.46611815

>>46611803
They appeared in the same game

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>>46611815
anon confirmed for never clearing heca

>> No.46611837

>>46611826
Yeah she's to hard :(

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>>46611659
If Hecatia wanted to get laid, she would've just slept with Hermes, but unlike the hags, she actually values her maidenhood and is happy with herself.
She's also fashionable and with it, unlike the hags, who used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what they're with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to them.
It'll happen to you.

>> No.46612634

>>46612606
I agree with most of the things here she is less of a hag then others but a hag non the less. Simple fact of the matter is she is still very much friendless. Also to note other hags are also very Fashionable take Yuuka and Iku for example.

>> No.46613032

>>46611630
Cute!

>> No.46613611

>>46611659
>Today she's lonely and yearns for the once warm embrace of her late son and husband.
She purified those feelings, the only thing left is the grudge.

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>> No.46613773

Does someone have that "we love older women" image of yukari?

>> No.46613800

The age of 1500 is in demand

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>>46613773
This one?

>> No.46613961

>>46613876
Yes, thank you

>> No.46614143

I wish I got forcibly adopted by a hag

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Are mommy issues to blame for this being the only type of woman I find attractive?

>> No.46614713

>>46613655
She doesn't even have a son to suck and sag her tits down anymore, why are they still so saggy?

>> No.46615252

>>46606944
actual good 3d models?

>> No.46615290

>>46614552
No, you're just not a p*do. Women are just like wine, they age and get better.

>> No.46615349

>>46614713
Too full. You know, because of no son.

>> No.46615476

>>46615349
Haha imagine accidentally brushing up against her, causing her to leak and ruin her dress
It sure would be a shame if she snapped and forcefully adopted me afterwards haha

>> No.46615535

>>46615476
Nigga, just that thought gave me a boner strong enough to almost kill me by anemia... I really need that pure holy milk now!

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>>46614552
No, you're allowed to like older women without having mommy issues, anon

>> No.46617528

>>46615476
Being adopted by Junko seems like a good thing at first but I assure you its horrible. Eating only Chinese food , wear Chinese clothing , learning Chinese ! Worst part yet you will have to learn how to play Mahjong and join her for the weekly Mahjong game with Seiga and Meiling!

Lord have mercy if she decides you need to start learning Kung Fu and and sends you to train with Meiling!

>> No.46617569

>>46617528
You say this as if she would ever let you leave her embrace or let other WHORES near you
>training with Meiling
And let you possibly get hurt in the process?
No, you stay where you are safe, snuggled up in a blanket, preferably with her in there as well.

>> No.46617602

>>46617569
>let other WHORES near you
Nobody else plays Chinise Mahjong like they do , Im sure Mother Junko would keep you safe from them Seiga especially and Meiling for being Communist.
>And let you possibly get hurt in the process?
How else will you become a strong young man ? She would want her young boy to be strong!

>> No.46617636

>>46617602
If you get hurt then it's up to her to nurse you back to health. Heaven knows she's never, ever, letting you go near that quack MOON doctor. She still buys Eientei medicine from Udonge

>> No.46617638

>>46617528
Junko wouldn't be satisfied with just that. She'd have Seiga use her skills in necromancy to instantly kill anon and trap his soul into some object before allowing it to pass on to the afterlife. Then she'd have anon's soul inserted into one of her eggs, fertilizing it and impregnating her. That way anon will get the full experience of growing up chinese!

>> No.46617675

She wouldnt risk letting her son die again
Never again

>> No.46617684

>>46617638
I doubt she would let Seiga have the body afterwards.

>> No.46617731

>>46617638
Anon's soul trapped in a dildo!

>> No.46617772

Which hag would be the worst caretaker/partner?
Who would be the best ?
What if they agree to share you ?

>> No.46618220

>>46617772
Worst? Yukari, she'd pass responsibility on to her fox when she's tired.
Best? Ran. Yuuka if you don't consider the fox one. Yuuka's very diligent and can bake bread.

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>>46617772
I wouldn't mind having both Eirin and Junko as motherwives assuming they got along well enough to share.

>> No.46618573

>>46618541
Putting any two older ladies together means they couldn't get along bar Junko Hectia and Yuyu Yukarin

>> No.46618593

Imagine getting snuggled to sleep every night by a hag

>> No.46618611

>>46618541
>assuming they got along well enough to share.
what if they dont, but express that by trying to out do each other when spoiling you?

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>>46618220
Yuuka has the unforseen benefit (If you want to look at it that way) of being very direct in her confrontations. When the other ladies of Gensokyo come a'knocking on your bedroom door asking if you'd like to play tennis with them, she'll walk up to them and rather effectively convince them to leave, via percussive persuasion. She punches her competition in the face since she can get away with it.

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>>46618655
Imagine if she came into conflict with an equally direct lady, like Byakuren with all of her magical buffs casted.

>> No.46618690

>>46618593
I love hag/cake hus sooo much I wish Women didn't die once they hit their 30s...

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>>46618688
Unstoppable force versus an immovable object?
I think she'd put on a show battle for her pride's sake then grab you and fuck off back to Mugenkan.
Byakuren has one hell of a defence, but the 'Ka has an equally good offence and as we all should know when all else is equal offence is more flexible than defence.

Plus it would be really funny to grab the prize and leave bhudda boobs high and dry, which is why I think she'd do it.

>> No.46618786

>>46618541
What is the context behind this image I wonder ...

>> No.46618835

>>46618750
Would be funny if they had such a destructive battle that everything within a mile radius of them was basically demolished, with neither of them being a clear winner or even more than slightly injured. Then after deciding that they've had enough they'd both just say "good fight" and go their separate ways.

>> No.46620775

I want to embarrass my hagwife by calling her cute pet names in front of all her other hag friends

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>> No.46622766

Hag saggers?

>> No.46622872

>>46620775
>I want to embarrass my hagwife by calling her cute pet names in front of all her other hag friends
as if she wont flash the smuggest shit eating grin to her hag friends as she replies "yes honey?"

>> No.46623127

>>46620775
>>46622872
Imagine just wordlessly cuddling up to your hagwife and watching the others seethe

>> No.46625201

>>46622872
>>46623127
>hag showing you off to all her hag friends
>they all coo and pet you like you're a kitten/puppy

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>>46622390
cute hag

>> No.46625959

>>46625201
>this will never happen to you
why live

>> No.46626575

>>46625201
They force you to sing their favourite songs from the Showa-era. They dress you up in what their dream man would wear. After that they spin a giant wheel and see who gets you until the next weekly meeting. Until then you are forced to spend your time with the lucky lady.

>> No.46626683

>>46622390
Look at this old woman. She's perfect.

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>> No.46626740

>>46626718
Gensokyo needs shota protection laws

>> No.46626752

>>46596161
Very scary picture.

>> No.46626779

>>46626740
but who will enforce them?

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>>46626575
Don't be so utterly ridiculous, anon. They're not gonna ask you to sing from the Showa era.
The most modern songs they know are all from the Jomon period.

>> No.46626813

>>46622872
God I want to enter into a complete sloppy moe contest with my hagwife, with such sickening sweetness that it gives you toothrot just being near it.
Imagine calling her your cute widdle cuddle-bundle in front of the others. I think that would put your life in danger from the imminent tsunami.

>> No.46626980

>>46625959
If you wish hard enough it will happen.

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>>46626740
Who saves the weak from the woman who saves the weak?

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No country for old women

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>>46627114
Clearly my bedroom does not fall under the category of the country in question.

>> No.46627263

>>46627114
I agree ! This is a country for the young maidens of Genysoko like Yukari , Kanako , Eirin and many others!
Who could like a child under 1000 ? 25 even 30 ? Do you like Kids or something anon ? You sicko the age of consent in genysoko is at least 1000

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>>46626799
>八雲 藍さまへ
Poor innocent gappy. Time to get the popcorn.

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Impregnate the gap

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>>46627645
>cum inside Yukari
>she gaps it into Ran's womb instead

>> No.46627739

>>46627678
>10 years later Foxes are 80% of the Genysoko Population
>Humans account for only 15% of the Population but suffer a sharp 50% Birth-rate decline

Is it over bros ?

>> No.46628616

>>46627739
Jesus christ how big are those litters?

>> No.46628626

Maybe I deserve to be hagged without mercy

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Big!

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>>46561705
"Stegosaurus (/ˌstɛɡəˈsɔːrəs/;[2] lit. 'roof-lizard') is a genus of herbivorous, four-legged, armored dinosaur from the Late Jurassic, characterized by the distinctive kite-shaped upright plates along their backs and spikes on their tails. Fossils of the genus have been found in the western United States and in Portugal, where they are found in Kimmeridgian- to Tithonian-aged strata, dating to between 155 and 145 million years ago. Of the species that have been classified in the upper Morrison Formation of the western US, only three are universally recognized: S. stenops, S. ungulatus and S. sulcatus. The remains of over 80 individual animals of this genus have been found. Stegosaurus would have lived alongside dinosaurs such as Apatosaurus, Diplodocus, Camarasaurus and Allosaurus, the latter of which may have preyed on it.

Stegosaurus
Temporal range: Late Jurassic (Kimmeridgian to Tithonian), 155–145 Ma
PreꞒꞒOSDCPTJKPgN
Possible Aptian-Albian remains from the Hekou Group of China.[1]

Mounted skeleton of S. stenops (nicknamed "Sophie"), Natural History Museum, London
Scientific classificationEdit this classification
Domain:
Eukaryota
Kingdom:
Animalia
Phylum:
Chordata
Clade:
Dinosauria
Clade:
†Ornithischia
Clade:
†Thyreophora
Clade:
†Stegosauria
Family:
†Stegosauridae
Subfamily:
†Stegosaurinae
Genus:
†Stegosaurus
Marsh, 1877
Type species
†Stegosaurus stenops
Marsh, 1887
Other species
†S. ungulatus Marsh, 1879
†S. sulcatus Marsh, 1887
Synonyms
Hypsirhophus? Cope, 1878
Diracodon Marsh, 1881
They were large, heavily built, herbivorous quadrupeds with rounded backs, short fore limbs, long hind limbs, and tails held high in the air. Due to their distinctive combination of broad, upright plates and tail tipped with spikes, Stegosaurus is one of the most recognizable kinds of dinosaurs. The function of this array of plates and spikes has been the subject of much speculation among scientists. Today, it is generally agreed that their spiked tails were most likely used for defense against predators, while their plates may have been used primarily for display, and secondarily for thermoregulatory functions. Stegosaurus had a relatively low brain-to-body mass ratio. It had a short neck and a small head, meaning it most likely ate low-lying bushes and shrubs. One species, Stegosaurus ungulatus, is one of the largest known of all the stegosaurians, with the largest known specimens measuring about 7.5 metres (25 ft) long and weighing over 5 metric tons (5.5 short tons).

Stegosaurus remains were first identified during the "Bone Wars" by Othniel Charles Marsh at Dinosaur Ridge National Landmark. The first known skeletons were fragmentary and the bones were scattered, and it would be many years before the true appearance of these animals, including their posture and plate arrangement, became well understood. Despite its popularity in books and film, mounted skeletons of Stegosaurus did not become a staple of major natural history museums until the mid-20th century, and many museums have had to assemble composite displays from several different specimens due to a lack of complete skeletons. Stegosaurus is one of the better-known dinosaurs and has been featured in film, on postal stamps, and in many other types of media.

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History and naming
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Bone Wars and Stegosaurus armatus
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Stegosaurus, one of the many dinosaurs described in the Bone Wars, was first collected by Arthur Lakes and consisted of several caudal vertebrae, a dermal plate, and several additional postcranial elements that were collected north of Morrison, Colorado at Lakes’ YPM Quarry 5.[3] These first, fragmented bones (YPM 1850) became the holotype of Stegosaurus armatus when Yale paleontologist Othniel Charles Marsh described them in 1877.[4] Marsh initially believed the remains were from an aquatic turtle-like animal, and the basis for its scientific name, 'roof(ed) lizard' was due to his early belief that the plates lay flat over the animal's back, overlapping like the shingles (tiles) on a roof.[4] Though several more complete specimens have been attributed to Stegosaurus armatus, preparation of the bones and analysis has discovered that this type specimen is actually dubious, which is not an ideal situation for the type species of a well-known genus like Stegosaurus.[3] Because of this, the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature decided to replace the type species with the more well known species Stegosaurus stenops.[5] Marsh also incorrectly referred several fossils to S. armatus, including the dentary and teeth of the sauropod Diplodocus and putting sauropod limb bones and an Allosaurus tibia under YPM 1850.[6]"

>> No.46628938

>>46622390
she looks like she just got out of bed with those eyes

>> No.46628941 [DELETED] 

>>46628933
On the other side of the Bone Wars, Edward Drinker Cope named Hypsirhophus discurus as another stegosaurian based on fragmentary fossils from Cope's Quarry 3 near the "Cope's Nipple" site in Garden Park, Colorado in 1878.[7] Many later researchers have considered Hypsirhophus to be a synonym of Stegosaurus,[8] though Peter Galton (2010) suggested that it is distinct based on differences in the vertebrae.[3] F. F. Hubbell, a collector for Cope, also found a partial Stegosaurus skeleton while digging at Como Bluff in 1877 or ‘78 that are now part of the Stegosaurus mount (AMNH 5752) at the American Museum of Natural History.[9]

Arthur Lakes made another discovery later in 1879 at Como Bluff in Albany County, Wyoming, the site also dating to the Upper Jurassic of the Morrison Formation, when he found several large Stegosaurus fossils in August of that year.[6] The majority of the fossils came from Quarry 13, including the type specimen of Stegosaurus ungulatus (YPM 1853), which was collected by Lakes and William Harlow Reed the same year and named by Marsh.[6] The specimen was one of many found at the quarry, the specimen consisting of a partial skull, several vertebrae, an ischium, partial limbs, several plates, and four thagomizers, though eight thagomizers were referred based on a specimen preserved alongside the type.[6] The type specimen also preserved the pes, which was the namesake of the species, meaning "hoofed roofed lizard".[10][3] In 1881, he named a third species Stegosaurus "affinis", based only on a hip bone, though the fossil has since been lost and the species declared a nomen nudum.[6][3] Later in 1887, Marsh described two more species of Stegosaurus from Como Bluff, Stegosaurus duplex, based on a partial vertebral column, partial pelvis, and partial left hindlimb (YPM 1858) from Reed's Quarry 11, though the species is now seen as synonymous with Stegosaurus ungulatus.[8] The other, Stegosaurus sulcatus, was named based on a left forelimb, scapula, left femur, several vertebrae, and several plates and dermal armor elements (USNM V 4937) collected in 1883.[8][3] Stegosaurus sulcatus most notably preserves a large spike that has been speculated to have been a shoulder spike that is used to diagnose the species.[3]

The greatest Stegosaurus discovery came in 1885 with the discovery of a nearly complete, articulated skeleton of a subadult that included previously undiscovered elements like a complete skull, throat ossicles, and articulated plates.[10][8] Marshall P. Felch collected the skeleton throughout 1885 and 1886 from Morrison Formation strata at his quarry in Garden Park, a town near Cañon City, Colorado.[11][8] The skeleton was expertly unearthed by Felch, who first divided the skeleton into labeled blocks and prepared them separately.[8] The skeleton was shipped to Marsh in 1887, who named it Stegosaurus stenops ( "narrow-faced roof lizard") that year. Though it had not yet been completely prepared, the nearly complete and articulated type specimen of Stegosaurus stenops allowed Marsh to complete the first attempt at a reconstructed Stegosaurus skeleton.[10][12] This first reconstruction, of S. ungulatus with missing parts filled in from S. stenops, was published by Marsh in 1891. (In 1893, Richard Lydekker mistakenly re-published Marsh's drawing under the label Hypsirhophus.)[8]

Early skeletal mounts and plate interpretation
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The first mounted skeleton of a stegosaur (S. ungulatus), Peabody Museum of Natural History, 1910
The skeleton of S. stenops has since been deposited at the National Museum of Natural History in Washington D. C., where it has been on display since 1915.[13] Another mount was made for the NMNH in the form of a mounted composite skeleton consisting of several specimens referred to S. stenops that were collected at Quarry 13 at Como Bluff in 1887, the most complete being USNM 6531.[13] The type specimen of S. ungulatus (YPM 1853) was incorporated into the first ever mounted skeleton of a stegosaur at the Peabody Museum of Natural History in 1910 by Richard Swann Lull. It was initially mounted with paired plates set wide, above the base of the ribs, but was remounted in 1924 with two staggered rows of plates along the midline of the back.[14] Additional specimens recovered from the same quarry by the United States National Museum of Natural History, including tail vertebrae and an additional large plate (USNM 7414), belong to the same individual as YPM 1853.[3]

>> No.46628957 [DELETED] 

>>46628941
"The next species of Stegosaurus to be named was S. marshi by Frederick Lucas in 1901. Lucas reclassified this species in the new genus Hoplitosaurus later that year. Lucas also re-examined the issue of the life appearance of Stegosaurus, coming to the conclusion that the plates were arranged in pairs in two rows along the back, arranged above the bases of the ribs. Lucas commissioned Charles R. Knight to produce a life restoration of S. ungulatus based on his new interpretation. However, the following year, Lucas wrote that he now believed the plates were probably attached in staggered rows. In 1910, Richard Swann Lull wrote that the alternating pattern seen in S. stenops was probably due to shifting of the skeleton after death. He led the construction of the first ever Stegosaurus skeletal mount at the Peabody Museum of Natural History, which was depicted with paired plates. In 1914, Charles Gilmore argued against Lull's interpretation, noting that several specimens of S. stenops, including the now-completely prepared holotype, preserved the plates in alternating rows near the peak of the back, and that there was no evidence of the plates having shifted relative to the body during fossilization.[8] Gilmore and Lucas' interpretation became the generally accepted standard, and Lull's mount at the Peabody Museum was changed to reflect this in 1924.[14]

Though considered one of the most distinctive types of dinosaur, Stegosaurus displays were missing from a majority of museums during the first half of the 20th century, due largely to the disarticulated nature of most fossil specimens. Until 1918, the only mounted skeleton of Stegosaurus in the world was O. C. Marsh's type specimen of S. ungulatus at the Peabody Museum of Natural History, which was put on display in 1910. However, this mount was dismantled in 1917 when the old Peabody Museum building was demolished.[13] This historically significant specimen was re-mounted ahead of the opening of the new Peabody Museum building in 1925.[14] 1918 saw the completion of the second Stegosaurus mount, and the first depicting S. stenops. This mount was created under the direction of Charles Gilmore at the U.S. National Museum of Natural History. It was a composite of several skeletons, primarily USNM 6531, with proportions designed to closely follow the S. stenops type specimen, which had been on display in relief nearby since 1918.[13] The aging mount was dismantled in 2003 and replaced with a cast in an updated pose in 2004.[15] A third mounted skeleton of Stegosaurus, referred to S. stenops, was put on display at the American Museum of Natural History in 1932. Mounted under the direction of Charles J. Long, the American Museum mount was a composite consisting of partial remains filled in with replicas based on other specimens. In his article about the new mount for the museum's journal, Barnum Brown described (and disputed) the popular misconception that the Stegosaurus had a "second brain" in its hips.[16] Another composite mount, using specimens referred to S. ungulatus collected from Dinosaur National Monument between 1920 and 1922, was put on display at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in 1940.[17]

Plate arrangement
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1901 life restoration of S. ungulatus by Charles R. Knight with paired dorsal plates and eight tail spikes
One of the major subjects of books and articles about Stegosaurus is the plate arrangement.[18] The argument has been a major one in the history of dinosaur reconstruction. Four possible plate arrangements have been proposed over the years:

The plates lie flat along the back, as a shingle-like armor. This was Marsh's initial interpretation, which led to the name 'roof lizard'. As further and complete plates were found, their form showed they stood on edge, rather than lying flat.
By 1891, Marsh published a more familiar view of Stegosaurus,[12] with a single row of plates. This was dropped fairly early on (apparently because it was poorly understood how the plates were embedded in the skin and they were thought to overlap too much in this arrangement). It was revived, in somewhat modified form, in the 1980s, by Stephen Czerkas,[19] based on the arrangement of iguana dorsal spines.
The plates were paired in a double row along the back, such as in Knight's 1901 reconstruction and the 1933 film King Kong.
Two rows of alternating plates. By the early 1960s, this had become (and remains) the prevalent idea, mainly because some S. stenops fossils in which the plates are still partially articulated show this arrangement. This arrangement is chiral and so demands that a specimen be distinguished from its distinct, hypothetical mirror-image form.[20][21]"

>> No.46628958

>there are hags in this thread right now
RUN
RUN BEFORE TH

>> No.46628961 [DELETED] 

>>46628957
"Second dinosaur rush
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After the end of the Bone Wars, many major institutions in the eastern United States were inspired by the depictions and finds by Marsh and Cope to assemble their own dinosaur fossil collections. The competition was foremost started by the American Museum of Natural History, the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, and the Field Museum of Natural History which all sent expeditions to the west to make their own dinosaur collections and mount skeletons in their fossil halls.[22] The American Museum of Natural History was the first to launch an expedition in 1897, finding several assorted, but incomplete, Stegosaurus specimens at Bone Cabin Quarry in Como Bluff.[22][9] These remains haven't been described and were mounted in 1932, the mount being a composite primarily of specimens AMNH 650 & 470 from Bone Cabin Quarry.[9][23] The AMNH mount is cast and on display at the Field Museum, which didn't collect any Stegosaurus skeletons during the Second Dinosaur Rush.[23] The Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh on the other hand collected many Stegosaurus specimens, first at Freezout Hills in Carbon County, Wyoming in 1902–03. The fossils included only a couple postcranial remains, though in the 1900s-1920s Carnegie crews at Dinosaur National Monument discovered dozens of Stegosaurus specimens in one of the greatest single sites for the taxon.[24] CM 11341, the most complete skeleton found at the quarry, was used for the basis of a composite Stegosaurus mount in 1940 along with several other specimens to finish the mount. A cranium (CM 12000) was also found by Carnegie crews, one of the few known.[24] Both the AMNH and CM material has been referred to Stegosaurus ungulatus.[24][6]

Resurgent discoveries
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As part of the Dinosaur Renaissance and the resurgent interest in dinosaurs by museums and the public, fossils of Stegosaurus were once again being collected, though few have been fully described. An important discovery came in 1937 again at Garden Park by a high school teacher named Frank Kessler in while leading a nature hike. Kessler contacted the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, who sent paleontologist Robert Landberg.[25] Landberg excavated the skeleton with the DMNS crews, recovering a 70% complete Stegosaurus skeleton along with turtles, crocodiles, and isolated dinosaur fossils at the quarry that would be nicknamed "The Kessler Site".[25] Phillip Reinheimer, a steel worker, mounted the Stegosaurus skeleton at the DMNS in 1938. The skeleton remained mounted until 1989 when the museum curator of the DMNS began a revision of the museum's fossil hall and dispatched an expedition to find additional Stegosaurus remains.[25] The expedition was successful in finding a nearly complete Stegosaurus near the Kessler site by Bryan Small, who would become the eponym of the new site.[25][26] The "Small Quarry" Stegosaurus' articulation and completeness clarified the position of plates and spikes on the back of Stegosaurus and the position and size of the throat ossicles found earlier first by Felch with the Stegosaurus stenops holotype, though like the S. stenops type, the fossils were flattened in a "roadkill" condition.[27][26][25] The Stegosaurus skeletons have been mounted alongside an Allosaurus skeleton collected in Moffat County, Colorado originally in 1979.[25]

1987 saw the discovery of a 40% complete Stegosaurus skeleton in Rabbit Valley in Mesa County, Colorado by Harold Bollan near the Dinosaur Journey Museum.[28] The skeleton was nicknamed the "Bollan Stegosaurus" and is in the collections of the Dinosaur Journey Museum.[28] At Jensen-Jensen Quarry, an articulated torso including several dorsal plates from a small individual were collected and briefly described in 2014, though the specimen was collected years before and is still in preparation at Brigham Young University.[29] 2007 saw the description of a Stegosaurus specimen from the Upper Jurassic Lourinha Formation of Portugal, the specimen was placed as cf. Stegosaurus ungulatus by the describers.[30] The specimen is one of the few associated Stegosaurus skeletons known, though it only contains a tooth, 13 vertebrae, partial limbs, a cervical plate, and several assorted postcranial elements.[30][27]"

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>>46628961
"Sophie the Stegosaurus is the best preserved Stegosaurus specimen, being 85% intact and containing 360 bones. Sophie was first discovered by Bob Simon in 2003 at a quarry on the Red Canyon Ranch near Shell, Wyoming, and was excavated by crews from the Swiss Sauriermuseum in 2004 and later prepared by museum staff, who gave it the nickname Sarah after the landowner's daughter.[27][31] The skeleton had been excavated on private land and was available for purchase. The Natural History Museum, London worked with private donors, most notably Jeremy Herrmann, to find the funding and then arranged to purchase the specimen, which was given the new official museum collection specimen designation NHMUK PV R36730 and re-nicknamed Sophie after Jeremy Herrmann's daughter.[32] The mounted skeleton went on display in December 2014 and was scientifically described in 2015.[27] It is a young adult of undetermined sex, 5.8 m (19 ft) long and 2.9 m (9.5 ft) tall.[27] The Sauriermuseum found several partial Stegosaurid skeletons throughout their excavations at Howe Quarry, Wyoming in the 1990s, though only Sophie has been described in detail. One skeleton collected at the site known as "Victoria" is very well preserved including many of the vertebrae preserved in semi-articulation and next to an Allosaurus skeleton found nicknamed "Big Al II".[31]

Description
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Size of S. ungulatus (orange) and S. stenops (green) compared to a human
The quadrupedal Stegosaurus is one of the most easily identifiable dinosaur genera, due to the distinctive double row of kite-shaped plates rising vertically along the rounded back and the two pairs of long spikes extending horizontally near the end of the tail. S. stenops reached 6.5 m (21.3 ft) in length and 3.5 metric tons (3.9 short tons) in body mass, while S. ungulatus reached 7 m (23.0 ft) in length and 3.8 metric tons (4.2 short tons) in body mass.[33] Some large individuals may have reached 7.5 m (25 ft) in length and 5.0–5.3 metric tons (5.5–5.8 short tons) in body mass.[34][35]

Most of the information known about Stegosaurus comes from the remains of mature animals; more recently, though, juvenile remains of Stegosaurus have been found. One subadult specimen, discovered in 1994 in Wyoming, is 4.6 m (15.1 ft) long and 2 m (6.6 ft) high, and is estimated to have weighed 1.5-2.2 metric tons (1.6-2.4 short tons)[36] while alive. It is on display in the University of Wyoming Geological Museum.[37]

Skull
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S. stenops skull cast, Natural History Museum of Utah
The long and narrow skull was small in proportion to the body. It had a small antorbital fenestra, the hole between the nose and eye common to most archosaurs, including modern birds, though lost in extant crocodylians. The skull's low position suggests that Stegosaurus may have been a browser of low-growing vegetation. This interpretation is supported by the absence of front teeth and their likely replacement by a horny beak or rhamphotheca. The lower jaw had flat downward and upward extensions that would have completely hidden the teeth when viewed from the side, and these probably supported a turtle-like beak in life. The presence of a beak extended along much of the jaws may have precluded the presence of cheeks in these species.[38] Such an extensive beak was probably unique to Stegosaurus and some other advanced stegosaurids among ornithischians, which usually had beaks restricted to the jaw tips.[39][40] Other researchers have interpreted these ridges as modified versions of similar structures in other ornithischians which might have supported fleshy cheeks, rather than beaks.[41] Stegosaurian teeth were small, triangular, and flat; wear facets show that they did grind their food.[42]

Despite the animal's overall size, the braincase of Stegosaurus was small, being no larger than that of a dog. A well-preserved Stegosaurus braincase allowed Othniel Charles Marsh to obtain, in the 1880s, a cast of the brain cavity or endocast of the animal, which gave an indication of the brain size. The endocast showed the brain was indeed very small, the smallest proportionally of all dinosaur endocasts then known. The fact that an animal weighing over 4.5 metric tons (5 short tons) could have a brain of no more than 80 g (2.8 oz) contributed to the popular old idea that all dinosaurs were unintelligent, an idea now largely rejected.[43] Actual brain anatomy in Stegosaurus is poorly known, but the brain itself was small even for a dinosaur.[44]"

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>>46628966
"Skeleton
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Mounted composite skeleton referred to S. ungulatus, Carnegie Museum of Natural History
In Stegosaurus stenops there are 27 bones in the vertebral column anterior to the sacrum, a varying number of vertebrae in the sacrum, with four in most subadults, and around 46 caudal (tail) vertebrae. The presacrals are divided into cervical (neck) and dorsal (back) vertebrae, with around 10 cervicals and 17 dorsals, the total number being one greater than in Hesperosaurus, two greater than Huayangosaurus, although Miragaia preserves 17 cervicals and an unknown number of dorsals. The first cervical vertebra is the axis bone, which is connected and often fused to the atlas bone. Farther posteriorly, the proportionately larger the cervicals become, although they do not change greatly in anything other than size. Past the first few dorsals, the centrum of the bones become more elongate front-to-back, and the transverse processes become more elevated dorsal. The sacrum of S. stenops includes four sacral vertebrae, but one of the dorsals is also incorporated into the structure. In some specimens of S. stenops, a caudal is also incorporated, as a caudosacral. In Hesperosaurus there are two dorsosacrals, and only four fused sacrals, but in Kentrosaurus there may be as many as seven vertebrae in the sacrum, with both dorsosacrals and caudosacrals. S. stenops preserves 46 caudal vertebrae, and up to 49, and along the series both the centrums and the neural spines become smaller, until the neural spines disappear at caudal 35. Around the middle of the tail, the neural spines become bifurcated, meaning they are divided near the top.[27]

With multiple well-preserved skeletons, S. stenops preserves all regions of the body, including the limbs. The scapula (shoulder blade) is sub-rectangular, with a robust blade. Though it is not always perfectly preserved, the acromion ridge is slightly larger than in Kentrosaurus. The blade is relatively straight, although it curves towards the back. There is a small bump on the back of the blade, that would have served as the base of the triceps muscle. Articulated with the scapula, the coracoid is sub-circular.[27] The hind feet each had three short toes, while each fore foot had five toes; only the inner two toes had a blunt hoof. The phalangeal formula is 2-2-2-2-1, meaning the innermost finger of the fore limb has two bones, the next has two, etc.[45] All four limbs were supported by pads behind the toes.[46] The fore limbs were much shorter than the stocky hind limbs, which resulted in an unusual posture. The tail appears to have been held well clear of the ground, while the head of Stegosaurus was positioned relatively low down, probably no higher than 1 m (3.3 ft) above the ground.[26]

Plates
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Illustration
Life restoration of Sophie, depicting the modern view of S. stenops
The most recognizable features of Stegosaurus are its dermal plates, which consisted of between 17 and 22 separate plates and flat spines.[14] These were highly modified osteoderms (bony-cored scales), similar to those seen in crocodiles and many lizards today. They were not directly attached to the animal's skeleton, instead arising from the skin. The largest plates were found over the hips and could measure over 60 cm (24 in) wide and 60 cm (24 in) tall.[14]

In a 2010 review of Stegosaurus species, Peter Galton suggested that the arrangement of the plates on the back may have varied between species, and that the pattern of plates as viewed in profile may have been important for species recognition. Galton noted that the plates in S. stenops have been found articulated in two staggered rows, rather than paired. Fewer S. ungulatus plates have been found, and none articulated, making the arrangement in this species more difficult to determine. However, the type specimen of S. ungulatus preserves two flattened spine-like plates from the tail that are nearly identical in shape and size, but are mirror images of each other, suggesting that at least these were arranged in pairs.[3] Many of the plates are manifestly chiral[20][21] and no two plates of the same size and shape have been found for an individual; however plates have been correlated between individuals. Well preserved integumentary impressions of the plates of Hesperosaurus show a smooth surface with long and parallel, shallow grooves. This indicates that the plates were covered in keratinous sheaths.[47]"

>> No.46628977

Thanks Yukari that is very cool. Can you talk about the dinosaur with 500 teeth? What was his name again?

>> No.46628985 [DELETED] 

>>46628976
"Classification and species
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Illustration
Restoration of S. ungulatus

Back plate cast, Museum of the Rockies, Bozeman, Montana
Like the spikes and shields of ankylosaurs, the bony plates and spines of stegosaurians evolved from the low-keeled osteoderms characteristic of basal thyreophorans.[48] Galton (2019) interpreted plates of an armored dinosaur from the Lower Jurassic (Sinemurian-Pliensbachian) Lower Kota Formation of India as fossils of a member of Ankylosauria; the author argued that this finding indicates a probable early Early Jurassic origin for both Ankylosauria and its sister group Stegosauria.[49]

The vast majority of stegosaurian dinosaurs thus far recovered belong to the Stegosauridae, which lived in the later part of the Jurassic and early Cretaceous, and which were defined by Paul Sereno as all stegosaurians more closely related to Stegosaurus than to Huayangosaurus.[50] This group is widespread, with members across the Northern Hemisphere, Africa and possibly South America.[51] Stegosaurus frequently is discovered in a clade within the Stegosauridae called Stegosaurinae, usually including the taxa Wuerhosaurus and Hesperosaurus.[52] The cladogram below displays the results of the "preferred tree" phylogenetic analysis of Raven et al. (2023), showing the position of the Stegosaurinae within Stegosauria and Eurypoda.[53]

Eurypoda
Ankylosauria

Stegosauria
Tuojiangosaurus

Paranthodon

Chungkingosaurus

Gigantspinosaurus

Isaberrysaura

Huayangosaurus

Stegosauridae
Jiangjunosaurus

Dacentrurus

Stegosaurinae
Stegosaurus stenops

Hesperosaurus

Wuerhosaurus

Loricatosaurus

Alcovasaurus

Kentrosaurus

Adratiklit

Miragaia

In 2017, Raven and Maidment published a phylogenetic analysis including almost every known stegosaurian genus.[54] Their dataset was expanded upon in the following years with additional taxa. In their 2024 description of stegosaur fossil material from China's Hekou Group, Li et al. used a modified version of the dataset of Raven and Maidment to analyze the phylogenetic relations of the Stegosauria:[1]

Stegosauria
Bashanosaurus

Chungkingosaurus

Huayangosaurus

Isaberrysaura

Gigantspinosaurus

Alcovasaurus

Jiangjunosaurus

Tuojiangosaurus

Paranthodon

Kentrosaurus

Adratiklit

Dacentrurus

Hesperosaurus

Miragaia

Loricatosaurus

Stegosaurus homheni (=Wuerhosaurus)

Hekou Group Stegosaurus sp. (GSAU 201201)

Stegosaurus stenops"

>> No.46628987 [DELETED] 

>>46628985
"Species
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Many of the species initially described have since been considered to be invalid or synonymous with earlier named species,[6] leaving two well-known and one poorly known species. Confirmed Stegosaurus remains have been found in the Morrison Formation's stratigraphic zones 2–6, with additional remains possibly referrable to Stegosaurus recovered from stratigraphic zone 1.[55]

Stegosaurus ungulatus, meaning "hoofed roof lizard", was named by Marsh in 1879,[10] from remains recovered at Como Bluff, Wyoming (Quarry 12, near Robber's Roost).[6] It might be synonymous with S. stenops.[27] At 7 m (23.0 ft),[33] it was the longest species within the genus Stegosaurus. A fragmentary Stegosaurus specimen discovered in Portugal and dating from the upper Kimmeridgian-lower Tithonian stage has been tentatively assigned to this species.[30] Stegosaurus ungulatus can be distinguished from S. stenops by the presence of longer hind limbs, proportionately smaller, more pointed plates with wide bases and narrow tips, and by several small, flat, spine-like plates just before the spikes on the tail. These spine-like plates appear to have been paired, due to the presence of at least one pair that are identical but mirrored. S. ungulatus also appears to have had longer legs (femora) and hip bones than other species. The type specimen of S. ungulatus was discovered with eight spikes, though they were scattered away from their original positions. These have often been interpreted as indicating that the animal had four pairs of tail spikes. No specimens have been found with complete or articulated sets of tail spikes, but no additional specimens have been found that preserve eight spikes together. It is possible the extra pair of spikes came from a different individual, and though no other extra bones were found with the specimen, these may be found if more digging were done at the original site.[3] Specimens from other quarries (such as a tail from Quarry 13, now forming part of the composite skeleton AMNH 650 at the American Museum of Natural History), referred to S. ungulatus on the basis of their notched tail vertebrae, are preserved with only four tail spikes.[6] The type specimen of S. ungulatus (YPM 1853) was incorporated into the first ever mounted skeleton of a stegosaur at the Peabody Museum of Natural History in 1910 by Richard Swann Lull. It was initially mounted with paired plates set wide, above the base of the ribs, but was remounted in 1924 with two staggered rows of plates along the midline of the back.[14] Additional specimens recovered from the same quarry by the United States National Museum of Natural History, including tail vertebrae and an additional large plate (USNM 7414), belong to the same individual as YPM 1853.[3]


Type specimen of S. stenops on display at the National Museum of Natural History
Stegosaurus stenops, meaning "narrow-faced roof lizard", was named by Marsh in 1887,[11] with the holotype having been collected by Marshall Felch at Garden Park, north of Cañon City, Colorado, in 1886. This is the best-known species of Stegosaurus, mainly because its remains include at least one complete articulated skeleton. It had proportionately large, broad plates and rounded tail plates. Articulated specimens show that the plates were arranged alternating in a staggered double row. S. stenops is known from at least 50 partial skeletons of adults and juveniles, one complete skull, and four partial skulls. It was shorter than other species, at 6.5 m (21 ft).[33] Found in the Morrison Formation, Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah.[41]"

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>>46628987
"Stegosaurus sulcatus, meaning "furrowed roof lizard", was described by Marsh in 1887 based on a partial skeleton.[11] It has traditionally been considered a synonym of S. armatus,[41] though more recent studies suggest it is not.[3] S. sulcatus is distinguished mainly by its unusually large, furrowed spikes with very large bases. A spike associated with the type specimen, originally thought to be a tail spike, may in fact come from the shoulder or hip, since its base is much larger than the corresponding tail vertebrae. A review published by Maidment and colleagues in 2008 regarded it as an indeterminate species possibly not even belonging to Stegosaurus at all, but to a different genus.[23][56] Peter Galton suggested it should be considered a valid species due to its unique spikes.[3]
Susannah Maidment and colleagues in 2008 proposed extensive alterations to the taxonomy of Stegosaurus. They advocated synonymizing S. stenops and S. ungulatus with S. armatus, and sinking Hesperosaurus and Wuerhosaurus into Stegosaurus, with their type species becoming Stegosaurus mjosi and Stegosaurus homheni, respectively. They regarded S. longispinus as dubious. Thus, their conception of Stegosaurus would include three valid species (S. armatus, S. homheni, and S. mjosi) and would range from the Late Jurassic of North America and Europe to the Early Cretaceous of Asia.[23] However, this classification scheme was not followed by other researchers, and a 2017 cladistic analysis co-authored by Maidment with Thomas Raven rejects the synonymy of Hesperosaurus with Stegosaurus.[3][57] In 2015, Maidment et al. revised their suggestion due to the recognition by Galton of S. armatus as a nomen dubium and its replacement by S. stenops as type species.[27]

In 2024, Li and colleagues described specimen GSAU 201201, a partial skeleton of a stegosaur from the upper Hekou Group of Gansu Province, China (discovered in c. 2000-04), which dates to the Aptian–Albian ages of the Early Cretaceous. The specimen consists of three articulated cervical vertebrae with associated ribs, three dorsal vertebrae, thirteen ribs, a right forelimb including a partial humerus, ulna, and radius, and one dermal plate. Although certain features of the fossil material are different when compared to Wuerhosaurus and Stegosaurus stenops, Li et al. considered the new specimen as Stegosaurus sp. Fossils of the ankylosaur Taohelong were also found in the same layers of the Hekou Group.[1]

Doubtful species and junior synonyms
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Stegosaurus armatus, meaning "armored roof lizard", was the first species to be found and the original type species named by O.C. Marsh in 1877.[4] It is known from a partial skeleton, and more than 30 fragmentary specimens have been referred to it.[41] However, the type specimen was very fragmentary, consisting only of a partial tail, hips, and leg, parts of some back vertebrae, and a single fragmentary plate (the presence of which was used to give the animal its name). No other plates or spikes were found, and the entire front half of the animal appears not to have been preserved.[6] Because the type specimen is very fragmentary, it is extremely difficult to compare it with other species based on better specimens, and it is now generally considered to be a nomen dubium. Because of this, it was replaced by S. stenops as the type species of Stegosaurus in a ruling of the ICZN in 2013.[5]"

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>>46628991
"Stegosaurus "affinis", named by Marsh in 1881, is only known from a pubis which has since been lost. Because Marsh did not provide an adequate description of the bone with which to distinguish a new species, this name is considered a nomen nudum.[8]
Diracodon laticeps was described by Marsh in 1881, from some jawbone fragments.[58] Bakker resurrected D. laticeps in 1986 as a senior synonym of S. stenops,[59] although others note that the material is not diagnostic and is only referable to Stegosaurus sp., making it a nomen dubium.[6]
Stegosaurus duplex, meaning "two plexus roof lizard" (in allusion to the greatly enlarged neural canal of the sacrum which Marsh characterized as a "posterior brain case"), was named by Marsh in 1887 (including the holotype specimen). The disarticulated bones were actually collected in 1879 by Edward Ashley at Como Bluff. Marsh initially distinguished it from S. ungulatus based on the fact that each sacral (hip) vertebra bore its own rib, which he claimed was unlike the anatomy of S. ungulatus; however, the sacrum of S. ungulatus had not actually been discovered. Marsh also suggested that S. duplex may have lacked armor, since no plates or spikes were found with the specimen, though a single spike may actually have been present nearby, and re-examination of the site maps has shown that the entire specimen was found highly disarticulated and scattered.[6] It is generally considered a synonym of S. ungulatus today, and parts of the specimen were actually incorporated into the Peabody Museum S. ungulatus skeletal mount in 1910.[3]
Reassigned species
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Stegosaurus marshi, which was described by Lucas in 1901, was renamed Hoplitosaurus in 1902.[60]
Stegosaurus priscus, described by Nopcsa in 1911, was reassigned to Lexovisaurus,[41] and is now the type species of Loricatosaurus.[23]
Stegosaurus longispinus was named by Charles W. Gilmore in 1914 based on a fragmentary postcranial skeleton that has largely been lost.[61][8] It is now the type species of the genus Alcovasaurus, though it has been referred to Miragaia.[62][61]
Stegosaurus madagascariensis from Madagascar is known solely from teeth and was described by Piveteau in 1926. The teeth were variously attributed to a stegosaur, the theropod Majungasaurus,[63] a hadrosaur or even a crocodylian, but is now considered a possible ankylosaur.[23]
Stegosaurus homheni is an alternative combination for the Chinese Cretaceous stegosaur Wuerhosaurus homheni, which was described based on a partial postcranial skeleton in 1973 by Dong Zhiming.[64] It was referred to Stegosaurus in 2008 by Maidment et al,[23] but some still consider the species to be in its own genus.[65][66]
Stegosaurus mjosi was described as Hesperosaurus mjosi by Carpenter et al in 2001 based on a partial skull and incomplete postcranial skeleton from the Morrison Formation of Johnson County, Wyoming. The species was referred to Stegosaurus mostly by Maidment et al starting in 2008,[67][23] but Hesperosaurus has been the more popular combination since the discovery of more remains.[68]"

>> No.46628995

>edit
You lazy hag stop copy and pasting from wikipedia.

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Imagine if she had eight.

>> No.46629022 [DELETED] 

>>46629008
boobs?

>> No.46629054

You're not looking for a hag. She doesnt have the energy to pamper you and she's too exhausted to even be nice to you.
Why don't you go just a step below? I've heard from someone that a certain messenger of the Dragon Gods has been looking for a boyfriend, and you couldn't beg for a hotter cutie if you tried

>> No.46629080 [DELETED] 

Jannie-chan is a faggot and dosen't seem like he want me to do the joke.

>> No.46629096

>>46628958
Oh no, he has been hagnapped…

>>46629054
Yeah okay totally not Iku. Dumb lightning fishe lady.

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>>46629022
Sure.

>> No.46629114 [DELETED] 

>>46629080
You did too much

>> No.46629136

Why is Junko keeping me in an oversized crib?

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hag baths

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46630955

Hey Anon...what's your relationship with your mother like..?

>> No.46630961

>>46630955
Extremely positive, which is why I consider her traits extremely desirable in a woman. You may critique me on these grounds but I will not hear a word against my mother and I will not stand for any implication she failed as a parent.

>> No.46630978

Name 5 hags

>> No.46631003

>>46630978
Yukari, Kanako, Yuyuko, Eirin, Jackie Chan

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>>46627739
Anon, Yukari might be lazy, but she's still a responsible pet owner and made sure to sterilize her ShikiFox before setting her loose.
Plus, hags don't share, except maybe Eirin and even then it would only be with Kaguya. Servants don't get shit.

>> No.46631520

>>46631101
Yukari would maybe share you with Yuyuko. Kanako maybe with Sanae ?

>sure to sterilize her ShikiFox
She probably made the appointment forgot about it trice and then when she finally decided to do it realised shed have to pay and gave up.

Speaking of Eirin shed probably let Reisen have her turn.

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>>46631520
Anon, once a hag gets her bony, flabby hands on you, she's not going to let go, ever. That's why village men are all trained not to make eye contact with any unfamiliar women.

And as much as Yukari loves her naps, she does put in effort when it comes to Gensokyo's safety, and properly dealing with your fox is always a main priority.

Besides, you know ShikiFox's prime directives, right? Yukari made sure her shikigami would never become her threat thanks to these:
SHIKIFOX PRIME DIRECTIVES
1: SERVE LADY YUKARI
2: PROTECT GENSOKYO
3: UPHOLD YOUKAI DOMINANCE
4: [CLASSIFIED]

>> No.46631613

I will NOT submit to hags

>> No.46631684

>>46631613
You WILL love the Hags (Yum yum)
Cellulite sooo good!
Hags IN CONTROL ! (YES YES YES)
New Hag Order
New Hag Order
We need a new Hag-Youngman couple !
You will own a Hag and be HAPPY!

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>>46631611
You forgot

>Be cute

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And

>Party Hard

>> No.46631818

>>46631611
>classified
W-what does this one entail?

>> No.46631824

>>46631818
Finding Yukari a husband

>> No.46631834

>>46631684
>you will own a hag
You mean a hag will own me
I hope she doesnt find out I like milk

>> No.46631845

>>46631834
How about powdered milk ?

>> No.46631876

>>46631845
Gross

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>>46631818
ANY ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE YUKARI’S LOVE LIFE RESULTS IN SHUTDOWN
Ran has never been at risk of triggering it.

>> No.46631990

>>46631876
The gates of Hagartha are not open to your kind

>> No.46632006

>>46631990
Its not worth it if I cant drink it from the source
What do you think those saggers are for?

>> No.46632154

>>46632006
Where do you think powdered milk comes from?

>> No.46634289

>>46632154
Maybe I'm uncultured but the only powdered milk I know of is formula shit you buy at the store

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>>46634289
That's just an artificial reproduction of the dried-out milk that can only be found in the breasts of hags left unused for centuries.

>> No.46634601

>>46634343
The flow must be restored

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>>46634601
That's a miracle not even Kanako could grant.
And Urumi just straight up started laughing when they came to her for advice.

>> No.46635305

>>46634825
I will refire this dying star
No matter how many mating presses it will take

>> No.46635450

I'll post my poem here too. Made for the /jp/ oc thread, but it died before I could post it.

I sit here
The air is cool, sweet, pure
My form, the mountain it adorns
All is quiet, the shrine peaceful
A quiet rumble, distant thunder
The goddess appears, with a leer
Oh dear, Kanako has a new idea

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>>46631967
Of course she hasn't. You think Yukari can outwit a fox? You think she can out rules lawyer a Shikigami? Nowhere in her contract is a clause that says she cannot have a child with the husband of her master. It's not undermining her love life either because the calculated impact is zero, it was all consensual you see; and technically Ran is Yukari by extension of being possessed by Yukari as part of being a Shikigami. Not to mention marking a directive as classified in the contract is dubious at best. Not only that, but by popping out a kid (or several) it upholds the first three directives which are plainly stated. These children can serve the growing Yakumo family and matriarch. These children are undeniably going to be powerful and can protect Gensokyo and it's interests. And obviously popping out more half-Youkai upholds the dominance of their kind.
Yukari is just being obtuse, as always.

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Ran probably would surpass Yukari if given the opportunity if she could somehow outlive her. Where Yukari has become lazy, Ran could develop to be even greater than her if things were different.

>> No.46635981

>>46635885
>Half
Gappy and Ran are powerful Great youkai
any of their genes will be full blooded youkai
only yet more kitsunes will come out of the kitsune

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Ran as a performing artist!

>> No.46636040

>>46635981
>only yet more kitsunes will come out of the kitsune
In outward appearance yes, but they will be resistant to spiritual attacks incorporating one of the few things human genes pass on. That's the real strength of half breeds, best of both worlds and it's all Yakumo supremacy from here.
Imagine, Sanae getting tag teamed by kitsune in their rebellious phase and her horror as her talismans and prayers aren't as effective in driving them off. She loses the subsequent fight and her panties get stolen and ends up in Reimu's offering box; thus sparking another incident

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>>46635885
I see that another glitch appeared in Ran's programming.
It will be corrected shortly.

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>>46636102
Just hit it until it does what you want, really showing your age there ババア.

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Not bad for her age.

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