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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1ZsSrE03o
In this thread ZUN is a filthy plagiarist hack.
So besides this and Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata, (Remi's theme) what else has ZUN ripped off?

>> No.4650070

ZUN > Beethoven

>> No.4650077

ITT We have no idea of how composing soundtracks works.

>> No.4650078

Artists rip things off? Holy shit, this is news.

>> No.4650086

Ronald McDonald's song.

>> No.4650088

>>4650058
Welcome to two years ago.

>> No.4650095

OP Here, it turns out that Salsa song wasn't totally original either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mmgb9KZ1nY
It's a James Bond tune, what the shit.

>> No.4650106

U.N. Owen was her? is a rip-off of McRoll'd.

>> No.4650110

inb4 beetles.

>> No.4650115
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I'm a little teapot
short at stout.

>> No.4650117

>>4650088
I posted this thread two years ago. OP has ripped me off.

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>>4650115
Get back to work, China, or I'm going to have to spank you again.

>> No.4650125

The beginning of Shou's theme reminds me of "Smoke on the Water"...

>> No.4650129

Satori's theme is "ripped off" a million other songs that sound about the same, etc.

Not really, but it's remarkable how many songs end up with similar sounding patterns. I guess certain certain keys just strike a chord with music composers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw-vpHOfWiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tChjemnUI4A

>> No.4650131

>>4650117
Sue him, sue everyone and then copyright your posts.

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>>4650124
Oh, so that's why China is always slacking off. I would too.

>> No.4650145

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RwvQMm7g4

>> No.4650149

Eirin's theme and Wild Arms 1 OP.

>> No.4650150
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At least Cirno's theme is original!

>> No.4650153

It's almost like artists of any sort are influenced by other stuff!

>> No.4650164

>>4650153
It's like ZUN isn't a great composer and just uses songs that other people wrote for his shitty games!

>> No.4650168

>>4650153
There's a big difference between being "influenced" by something and making a blatant copy.

>> No.4650171

>>4650164
Does the term MIDI music ring a bell?

>> No.4650190

Touhou is basically just a ripoff of every Cave game ever.

>> No.4650191

Oh, also this. Some of it is far-fetched, of course, but other ones are a bit uncanny.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8569663

>> No.4650208

ITT OP plagiarizes an old and tired topic

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Plagiarism theory status:

[x]TOLD
[ ]Not told

>> No.4650228

ZUN can't make anything original to save his life and is as much of plagiarist as Yoko Kanno. You can all stop calling him a good composer now. Don't /thread, I want to hear fanboys cry their pathetic asses off.

>> No.4650237

>>4650228
This is so old that everyone is far too apathetic to care.

>> No.4650238

Best thread on /jp/

>> No.4650257

Cut ZUN some slack.
He probably composes while drunk and improvises a lot, so he's more likely to "come up" with something that he heard before without noticing.

>> No.4650269

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8-3Mmz6U2k

ZUN's plagiarism knows no bounds.

>> No.4650274

I don't see it as a rip off, I see it as a reference.

And if anyone disagrees, he can go fuck herself.

>> No.4650280

>>4650257
Why the hell should I? Even with everything he rips off, his music is still mediocre video game schlock at best. Yet you have like 300 different arrange groups making stuff based of his work. Just what the fuck?

>> No.4650284

>>4650280
he makes a nice melody and you can remix it easy~

>> No.4650288

>>4650269
what

>> No.4650289

95% of world's music is more or less a copy of old songs. Nothing new.

>> No.4650293

>>4650289

82% of statistics are made up on the spot.

>> No.4650300

ITT the same faggot bumping his pointless thread

>> No.4650305

>>4650280
You sure are upset, I would even say that you might be mad.

>> No.4650307

EVERYBODY LETS SALSA!

>> No.4650315

>>4650280

His music is still many times better than nigger crap and emo shit that is dominating modern music.

>> No.4650324

>ZUN is a filthy plagiarist hack
So Hatate is his self-insirt now? It suddenly all makes sense...

>> No.4650325

>>4650315
You know I'm black and I'm proud and I'm here to say~ best Touhou remix.

>> No.4650326

>>4650315
He's not a filthy worthless nigger or a faggot emo whitetrash homogay. If that's your best defense, try the fuck harder, you little mindless fanboy. I'll spank you back into submission.

>> No.4650327

>>4650315

We're doing country-by-country comparisons here kid. Only niggers like nigger music, and only underaged b& like emo. If you compare ZUNs music to the rest of Japan's music in that genre, there is no doubt that he is mediocre. The only reason you fags put so much faith in it is because it's supported by girls wearing frilly dresses.

>> No.4650331

Good artists copy, great artists steal
-Steve Jobs

>> No.4650338

>>4650315
Don't be hatin'

>> No.4650339

>>4650324
Hatate deciding to get her own pictures from now on is ZUN's way of saying he's not going to plagiarize anymore.

>> No.4650347

>>4650280
Most fans like the songs because they associate them with their favorite characters. I don't think stage themes aren't nearly as popular.

That's what the entire Touhou fanbase boild down to.

BTW, music tastes are subjective, no need to get mad, bro.

>> No.4650348

>>4650280

Why so butthurt Anon-kun? You tried to be a composer but failed hard or something?

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So in a doujin work that makes a million references to other material (spellcard titles, character names, etc), the music sounds like other music? YOU DON'T SAY.

>> No.4650362

>>4650331
picasso said that you nong

>> No.4650370 [DELETED] 

>>4650331
>Implying fags are allowed to have an opinion on anything

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>>4650280

>> No.4650376

>>4650362
WHOOOOOOSH

>> No.4650377

>>4650348
How do you fail being a composer? It's impossible to be wrong.

>> No.4650380

The septet is a parody.

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>this thread

>> No.4650390

>>4650380
Haha, ZUN is basically the Japanese version of Chrischan, but with alcohol as an excuse for his faggotry instead of autism.

>> No.4650392

>>4650359

Exactly. So fucking what if ZUN rips off whole songs, even? So long as he isn't making millions from some "ZUN IN CONCERT" campaign or something, it's his choice. He has stated before that he makes the games for himself.

>> No.4650394

>>4650386
Trolls trolling trolls and extreme samefaggotry. In other words, the usual.

>> No.4650399

>>4650327

Who say he's not medicore? Who say he's better than average japanese composer? He's not. He just know how to advertise his music. Jackson wasn't the king of pop because he was a good singer or composer you know.

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Successful troll is successful.

>> No.4650419

>>4650399
>Jackson
>not a good singer or composer

You best be trolling, nigger.

>> No.4650421

Holy shit, I can't believe no one noticed this before!

Oh wait

>> No.4650423

>>4650392
Hey, if he was honest about it, I wouldn't mind. But in his music room notes, he always acts like the songs are totally original. It's total bullshit.

>> No.4650422 [DELETED] 

>>4650399
>implying ZUN makes games solely to advertise his music

hahahha

>> No.4650428

>>4650058
Its not called ripping off, its called referencing . I shit you not

Also this>>4650077 and this >>4650078

>> No.4650449

>>4650416
>Valid points + I don't agree = Troll

>> No.4650450

>>4650422

Actually he really started making games to advertise his music.

>> No.4650447 [DELETED] 

>>4650280
Someone post an Aya U mad.jpg please, I just spent a long time looking for mine but I can't find it.

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>>4650447
>I just spent a long time looking for mine but I can't find i
U mad?

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>> No.4650473

>>4650399
Jackson WAS a great singer and had great composers working for him. Thriller is a fucking masterpiece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEA9LHyQOjs

>> No.4650488

>>4650419

Jackson was so successful because he was a great dancer and the first artist who started making video-clips and concerts that were big shows, not because he was a good singer.

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/thread

>> No.4650491

>69 posts and 9 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

God fucking dammit /jp/

>> No.4650492

>>4650450
Really? Proof please.

>> No.4650496

Best thread on /jp/, amirite?

>> No.4650498

I like how you guys are calling me a troll because you don't want to face the truth. How moe~

>> No.4650503

So wait, if ZUN uses other people's music, does that mean that ZUN = KoG?

>> No.4650505

>>4650359
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>>4650359
>>4650359
>>4650359
>>4650359
>>4650359
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>>4650359
Zun is ripping off fist of the north star
Zun is ripping off JJBA
Zun is ripping off Ten Little Niggers
Zun is ripping off that one musical that he based Septette for the Dead Princess on
Zun is ripping of Kaguya-hime story
Zun is ripping off Zun who's ripping off Zun who' ripping of Zun.

Fucking retards a doujin maker doing shit for shit and giggles and nothing official? Well fuck me twice and call me a homo.

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>>4650488
>not a good singer

>> No.4650514

>>4650453
Thanks.

>> No.4650518

>>4650498
I love how you're reduced to outright flaming already.

>> No.4650519

>>4650498

What truth? That ZUN copy some old songs? Everybody know that for ages.

>> No.4650522

I don't mind ZUN copying music, it's not that bad, and people do that all the time. I enjoy it a lot.

I'm more surprised at all the people going out of their way to defend him.

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>>4650498

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>This thread

Wow congrats OP

>> No.4650531

>>4650488
Jackson a good dancer? He's a good dancer sure but he did nothing people on the street weren't doing. No really he didn't even invent the moon walk. He was good because he sounded good and was good looking, not for his dance steps.

>> No.4650537

>>4650058
Salsa is not something that you can plagiarize it's a motherfucking music genre.

And I thought Remi's theme was inspired by Ravel.

>> No.4650538

>>4650522
>I'm more surprised at all the people going out of their way to defend him.

OP is a dumbfuck and set himself up for a good lynching.

>> No.4650544

>>4650512

You are lying to yourself. Smooth Criminals is the only song that could show he was a good singer, shame he never did it live without playback.

>> No.4650548

/jp/ - Michael Jackson/General

>> No.4650563

Someone link this thread to ChaosAngel092.

>> No.4650564

ITT op has a conversation with himself

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>>4650548
>/jp/ - Michael Jackson/General
Sounds about right.

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>>4650548

>> No.4650569

>>4650544
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

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>>4650548

>> No.4650622

>>4650537
Did you even listen to the link? That song is Wind God Girl. You must have like, no musical ear.

>> No.4650644

John Williams uses classical music in his themes all the time. Jaws? That's Finlandia and The New World Smyphony. The point is he does something original with it. ZUN does this with his music. And as for his songs that aren't original, that's maybe, 10 songs out of 100? Not really that many. OP is making a mountain out of a molehill.

>> No.4650655

>>4650548
> /jp/ - Michael Jackson in Toehoe/General

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igew34aUpTw

>> No.4650670 [DELETED] 

>>4650622
There's one problem. It's not.>>4650058

>> No.4650662

>>4650416
I see Mozgus from Berserk in that picture. You're a plagiarist.

>> No.4650680

>>4650622
Wind God Girl is reminescent of the salsa music genre.
Big fucking deal.
Actually is impressive how he put that in his electronic stuff and make it fit.

>> No.4650705

>>4650680
Listen to the main trumpet riff. Are you deaf or something?

>> No.4650706

>>4650390

Of course, ZUN doesn't use the Touhou games to rant about people trolling him and whine about the failure of his Fuck Quest. XD

>> No.4650722

Orin's theme stage reminds me of Scarborough Fair.

>> No.4650733

>>4650705
You don't listen to a lot of musica latina, do you?

The melody is the same for a bit and that is actually cool, he took something from a totally different genre and make it fit in his own style.

How the intelligent people in this thread have been saying, that is what good artists do.

>> No.4650734

>>4650722
It pretty much is Scarborough Fair. Everyone born before 1990 figured that one out when they heard it the first time. No complaints here... still a sweet sounding stage theme.

>> No.4650747

>>4650680
No it's not. What the fuck. Don't agree with the troll.

>> No.4650768

BIG NEWS!
ZUN RIPPED OF KAGOME KAGOME!
SUE HIM!

>> No.4650788

>>4650768
THAT BASTARD!
WHY NOBODY THINKS OF THE CHILDREN!?

>> No.4650809

>>4650788
Children, what about those poor, poor birds in cages?

>> No.4650820

>>4650733
You trying to say all salsa music uses that same trumpet melody, or are you just deaf?

>> No.4650858

EVERY SONG IS A RIPOFF OF EVERYTHING

SUE EVERYONE

>> No.4650875

>>4650820
Yes I am deaf and I just follow the vibrations putting a hand on the speaker.
It's not something to joke about.

>> No.4650916

>>4650875
Oh. I apologize.

>> No.4650950

>>4650129
In that videos they credit this melody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqTM_WqIwc to some random japanise pop singer.
Pardon me if I call poppycock on them.

>> No.4650957

Holy fuck if you're that desperate for a reason to hate touhou at least come up with something plausible.

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NEWSFLASH:

ANONYMOUS DEDUCES:
SAME FIVE NOTES=PLAGIARISM!

MORE AT 8

>> No.4651185

This is of the best /jp treads today

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>> No.4651765

>>ripped off

If it's made before the 1800's, there's no real copyright on it.

>> No.4651803

>>4650985
Sup KoG.

>> No.4651904

ZUN guide to musical mastery:

1) Make a bunch of songs that sound the same

2) Rely on fans to make them sound good

>> No.4652056

OP here, I only posted like 5 times holy shit.

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