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>>4613234

Are we counting retired marines?

Guns don't hurt Servants so yeah.

Also
>unlimited supply of mana
So, like, hooked up to the Holy Grail like Dark Sakura?
Considering Caster's maximum release is far greater than Sakura's 1000 units, and even that is something equivalent to Excalibur, which can kill 1000 soldiers in one fell swoop...

Yeah. Caster. A thousand times over.

strength of the USMC is that any time magic or space aliens become involved, they get an automatic across-the-board upgrade to Space Marines

The USMC

Well, she is a named character, and the US Marines are not.

They stand no chance.

Also, just so you know...

...the Marines can kill servants AND Touhous.

The Marines would just rape her.

Marines. Caster doesn't stand a chance.

>>4613252
>guns don't hut servants
what.
>>4613253
FOR THE EMPRAH kind?

>>4613252

I think the fourth war has proven the effectiveness of fighter jets against servants.

Oh right, I'm the only serious person on /jp/.

I don't know, the US managed to invade Hell...

>>4613273

When wielded BY a Servant FOR a Servant, specifically being a Servant that has a corrosive ability to hijack literally harmless objects and turn them into equals of deadly weapons of yore.

The 4th War proved normal guns, even wielded by magi, are harmless to Servants. Kiritsugu tried to shoot up Lancer, remember?

>>4613277

We're really, really good at invading things.

Air Force here, Marines are small time.

Nukes can kill servants, discuss.

Caster, USMC can't even win against a few fanatics in a desert in the middle of nowhere

>>4613319

Really, OP was underestimating what "unlimited supply of mana" bestows.

Caster could contain a nuke in a barrier. She could also nuke the entire planet earth.

Infinity Caster VS Counter Guardian EMIYA, go

>>4613319
now that's a point to discuss, just by the fact the those can kill Gaia.

>>4613337
how do you know the insurgents didn't summon gilgamesh?

>>4613339

>Infinity Caster VS Counter Guardian EMIYA, go

>>>Infinite magic beamspammer vs. infinite magic weaponspammer

Fucking tie. Infinity does not beat infinity.

Could Shiki kill EX Caster?

>>4613339
I give it to Infinite Archer.

He'd troll Caster again and then make her a sword pin cushion.

>>4613365
Not a tie. Caster takes a -10 to her AC against sworrds.

This thread is now about the viability of Field Marshall Rommel as a servant.

>>4613438
nazi_vampire_eating_baby.jpg

>>4613396
Suddenly, Infinity Lancer appears.

Gae Bolg vs Infinite Magic Spam GO!

>>4613443

>>4613438
Servant Rider. A++ rank at anti-unit engagements. B- in anti-army.

This thread is now about Jack Churchill becoming a servant.

>>4613495

But he's already been claimed by Team Fortress so yeah.

>>4613502
Who cares! It's JACK FUCKING CHURCHILL.

>>4613461
Gae Dearg would be better... of course I probably spelled the name of the lance wrong...

>>4613438
Go read "Crimson Steel" then. It has Rommel as a Rider class. It's also more about tactics than OMG power levels. Plus, LUVIA.

>>4613522
fanfiction?

>>4613495
I'd put my bet on William F. "BULL" Halsey

>>4613522

>read
>fanfiction

JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING.jpg

>>4613522
Is that the one where Caster Elizabeth Bathory summoned some sort of Ubbo-Sathla made of blood?

>>4613612
Nah, it's the one where Luvia Summoned Rommel, and there was a battle with Shirou driving a BMW with Rin bleeding in the front seat while Archer shot Broken Phantasms at Rommel's tank.

And Aoko is Shirou's mentor.

>>4613789
"Crimson Steel" would be like a sixth Grail War played out like an 80's movie. There's a sniper as an Assassin Servant and Rommel and his Tank are Rider.

It takes place after about ten years after UBW. Shirou and Rin are married. They find out about another grail system cooked up by the Edifelts and enter the war. Rin is planning to summon Saber, however her engagement ring is made from none other than the pendent, so she's PISSED to get Archer again.

Luvia Summons Rommel.

>>4613808
>Shirou and Rin are married
Dammit.
>her engagement ring is made from none other than the pendent
ok, good
So who does Shirou get?

>>4613829
No one actually. He's support.

do marines have access to nuclear warheads?

certainly some nuclear warheads should have enough "bang"

ENGINEERS EYES AND EARS

Anyway I thought the Greeks were on our side

Rommel is smalltime, here's a brilliant Rider.

>>4613862

Marines have access to boomers.

Marines proceed to nuke super-caster who they fail to kill. In the process they're completely destroying the earth.

Earth summons Primate Murder

Caster loses
Humanity loses
everyone loses.

>>4615008
>Implying Primate Murder isn't Altrouge's pet now
Is ok, Gaia has a much more powerful ally

One shot and it's all over.

Caster? This guy killed everything in hell and then some.

>>4615628
It's a dog, and has a master.
The owner is not necessarily stronger/

Theodore Roosevelt can kill servants with his bare hands. Discuss.

I still think the whole "lol has to be magic to hurt servants" thing is pretty fucking stupid.

>>4615667
I didn't say Altrouge is stronger than Primate Murder ( because she sure as hell isn't). I was just saying that Gaia's ultimate weapon isn't Primate Murder now, he is dispensable

It's funny how you guys argue like experts about stuffs that were just mentioned extremely briefly in some side material.

>>4615690
...A hard to follow train of logic.
I do not think he was following 'commands' in the first place.
His whole purpose seems to be 'I made something above you in the food chain, no matter fucking what, so fuck you'.

>>4615661
But nothing in Doom fired that many shots at once

>>4615688
Well they are spirits after all. They can just let anything that they don't feel like dealing with go right through them unless it's magic or wielded by another spirit.

What do you guys mean? Guns can hurt servants.

Pic related.

The Magical Marines can win

>>4613234
Girugamesh

The Terran Marines.

>>4613522
hmm, searched in google AND fanfiction.net where the hell is it?

Did America research Stim? Did they tech to Medivac? Did they get quick gas for early +1?

>>4616251

No, they're going slow-start mech.

THORS AND BCS EVERYWHERE

>Who would win in a fight, Caster with a unlimited supply of mana, or the entirety of the United States Marine Corps?

Gilgamesh

>>4616265

That's Gilgamess.

>>4616170
Archer vs Assassin

USMC can kill tainted Gil. Discuss.

USMC can't micro for shit.

Like the USMC wouldn't have anti servant and magi capabilities in type-moon universe.

>>4616286

They... wouldn't. Officially, Magi don't exist. The Church is the one who keeps them in check.

Caster would tempt Mr. President.

Why would she destroy what could become her personal army?

>>4616291

Oh and the Church doesn't have shit on a Heroic Spirit.

>>4616291
I highly doubt that the world's governments would be unaware of them. Probably got some Magi working for the CIA and shit.

>>4616298

Well, modern magi don't even compare to Caster's High Speed Divine Language.

I suppose the Church can bring out some of its old artifacts like Longinus if things get too far out of hand.

Witches don`t exist.

>>4616295

Because she can already use skeletal minions to do her bidding and because one man can't do anything with the USA's army; you need congress approval to do anything of relevance.

Too much trouble for a power hungry magician. Necromancy/Robotics are more reliable.

>>4616309

Sorry Battler that doesn't work in this world.

Because "existence" is totally arbitrary in the Nasuverse.

>>4616314
Awesome villains work with humans.

>>4616318
Battler can deny all of your arguments in gold

>>4616318

Erwin Schrödinger is the deadliest man in the world.

>>4615688
Magic must defeat magic!

>>4613234
Ho about real witches?

I like how you can have sex with a servant but you can't kill one without magic. Fucking bullshit.

>>4616297
>Implying Merem Solomon can't beat the shit of any Heroic spirit(including Gilgamesh)

>>4616345
It's because sex is magic.
What else can create the miracle of human life?

>>4616347
Nobody knows who that is.

>>4616347
He may be able to take down average servants.

Saber, Archer, Gil would rape the shit out of his limbs.

>Caster with a unlimited supply of mana

So she's being gangbanged 24/7?

The USMC can help her with that you know. It will end in an alliance

>>4616347

Caster has beamspam. His Leg creatures would be destroyed very fast. After that, he's pretty much defenseless.

Heroic Spirits BECAME Heroic Spirits by slaying nightmare beasts of yore.
Okay but Caster's not really that Heroic but still, top-tier magus.

>>4616365

She was instrumental in the success of Jason, and sacrificed her own honor to serve the Gods.

Seems pretty heroic to me.

No one in here can kill him.

>>4616373

He's just a demon. Standard fare for heroes, right up there with dragons and ogres.

Now, this is someone who absolutely cannot be killed.

>>4616375
Demons in the Ranceverse have some sort of invincibility field.
You CANT harm him.

>>4616376

And yet he is dead. Funny how that works.

>>4616375
Maybe another Demiurge can?

>>4616359
>>4616365
He said the he can take down all of Altrouge's bodyguards (Primate Murder included) by himself, and Rizo and Fina are above the average servant in terms of power

I like how now we're discussing characters that have never even appeared in any real works.

>>4616383

Afraid not. The Lord of Nightmares is without peer.

>>4616381
Well maybe Servants with Divinity stats can?

>>4613234
/k/, is that you?

>>4616395
Abraxas is a god above gods.
Should be the same tier.

>>4616399

>Holy sword (X)

Excalibur can do it.

If another Holy sword can do it, Excalibur can do it.

>>4616409
Holy swords will do shit.
See Emperor Sword for example.

Nikkou and Chaos are special.

>>4616422

Excalibur is the holiest holy sword. It was sent by God through the Faeries and given to the chosen king by the divine spirit of water. It is the incarnation of Glory and Chivalry. It's a giant fucking laser that runs on holiness. It will kill your goddamn low-tier demon.

Better mage then Caster.
better swordfighter then Saber.
Invincibility field.

>>4616433
Has no effect on Demons.

>>4616291
>Implying the United States doesn't have its own highly advanced Magi corps

Even Kiritsugu could kill Caster with a single bullet, I'm pretty sure the Marines would kill her.

>>4616441

Did somebody say better swordsman

>>4616452

SPECIAL EFFECT, KILLS THE UNHOLY

It'd work on demons, goddamn. It killed Cthulhu.

>>4616297
looking at the fact that Ciel+church hax would curb stomp a serious Caster with her mana temlple and all, I think that you're understimating the church.

Also, Atlas alchemists sealed weapons can destroy the world 7 times over, Gilgamesh can go to fuck himself.

>>4616460
It cant harm Ranceverse Demons.

You can thank Planner for it.

>>4616465

Fine. Enuma Elish. It literally breaks reality to kill its target.
There's no way to block it.
The only way to avoid it is to literally be outside of reality.

Game. Set. Match. Gilgamesh wins again.

>>4616474
>Have to be outside reality

>>4616474
Alexander fucking jumped over Ea

>>4616474
Even that won`t bypass the Demons Invincibility Field.

Its like Berserkers "LOL it has to be rank A or GTFO godhand. Just more overpowered.

I think Alexander Dumas could out-caster Caster.

In fact, Alexander Dumas + USMC vs Infinite-mana Caster.

>>4616408

The Lord of Nightmares is the embodiment of the sea of chaos from which the omniverse was created. She makes Gods and Demons for kicks.

>>4616490

But he's a writer.

>>4616496

Oh shit, time to post the chart!

>>4616501
Yeah, but he's also a caster-class servant capable of outfitting an army with things equal to Excalibur.

HE COULD TOTALLY DO IT.

>>4616455
The idea of that actually seems pretty interesting, especially considering magi in the US would have access to Indian tribal magic and shit that isn't common over in Europe.

>>4616506

Fate/strange fake get out you are not even canon what are you doing here

>>4616513

Probably some combination of British magic brought over by the colonists and indigenous stuff like Indian and Indo-American.

>>4616513
Ah yes, the forgotten arts of huffing gasoline, beating your wife and suicide.

LoN Fanart where?

Could walk all over the Rance and FSN cast at the same time.

>>4616558
>>4616502
>>4616496
lol

>>4616529
I'm pretty sure none of that has to do with anything

>>4616565

A simple machine can't defeat God.

>>4616576
A simple machine piloted by an elder god can.

Lord of Nightmare porn where?

Recolored Lina porn won`t do!

>>4616502
Doesn't this chart imply that a combined alliance of everything else could beat the lord of nightmares, just because there triangle would be bigger than his?

>>4616578

Even Elder Gods have their elders. Such a person is the Lord of Nightmares.

>>4616599
But LoN does not have Demonbane!

>>4616599
He can kill it!

>>4616597

Incorrect. Think of the LoN as the source of a great river. She is the creator of all that falls below her on the chart. Even Demon Lords are little more than insects compared to her.

Isn't the Lord of Nightmares literally Primodial fucking Chaos? That's literally the basis and root of all things. The Void. She shouldn't be allowed in powerlevel discussions.

>>4616603

She has something even better. SECRETS.

United States Marine Corps couldn't even beat a hobo...
they are totally overrated...

Gurren-Lagann piloted by Lambdadelta and Bernkastel can kill Lord of Nightmares. Discuss.

>>4616616

Yes. Yes she is. It's like bringing Void Shiki into things.

>>4616616
whoa way too OP

tone that shit down i don't like storys with unbeatable fuckers.

same reason i hate the bible, god always wins. that fucker.

>>4616625
Void Shiki isn't the same thing, she can be defeated by a lots of characters.

>>4616622
Someone drawfag this.

>>4616638

True, but the whole "I get to recreate the universe however I like" thing gets the point across.

>>4613467
Correction:

Those are Germans, not members of the National Socialist Peoples Party.

>>4616622
Fuck that shit, Megas alone could do it.

BRB, oneshotting some shotas.

Whoever thinks that Excalibur wouldn't be able to take down Rance-verse demon's are just ignorant.

Excalibur can take down ANYTHING, by the legends there is nothing it cannot cut, it could slice the mountains of the horizon in one sweep and it could slice the sky and it could cut through anything.

Saying that Excalibur wouldn't be able to hurt the rance-world demons would almost be the same as saying that god wouldn't be able to do so.
It isn't on the same level as other "special holy swords" of the rance-verse.

>>4616654

What did Febreeze-o do to you? ;_;

>>4616682
It can`t.
Planner agreed don`t bother him about it.

>>4616694

Planner is a big, stupid jellyfi, er, WHALE!

>>4616701
The whale is Planners boss.

>>4616710

What kind of sick man takes orders from a fish.

>>4616754

>>whale
>>a fish

>>4616754
Obey or die.

>>4616249
It's here: http://nrvnqsr.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=fanfic&action=display&thread=4431

The author's sort of shy.

>>4613522
>>4613789
>>4616995
>>4613808

Fate Stay Night is converted into a live-action movie.

Is this awesome? Y/N

>>4617735
There's already a live action fate stay night.

Caster uses Mobility Focus, so she will be using Modern Blitzkrieg vs The USMC using Firepower Focus

Caster wins every time

>>4616616
Yeah, Golden Lina Inverse will fuck you up.

>>4616460
Excalibur is not a "holy sword" in its own right. Its effect, a blade of light, is just an extension of the blade which cleaves everything before it. It's not a purifying effect. It's just an effect of pure destruction.

Excalibur can also work off of negative prana, as shown by Dark Saber using it.

>>4617968

Using the phrase "golden lina inverse" to describe the lord of nightmares is like using "laughing elf man" to describe link.

>>4618009
Excalibur is not a "Sion" in its own right.

>>4618026
Japanese elf looking shocked.jpg

>>4618032
I don't think so, criminal Sion-chan!

>>4618041
I believe you are the Sion.

>>4618046
That would make you insane, criminal Sion-chan!

>>4618046
>>4618060
You are both suspended

>>4618074
That seems unlikely.

Also, the marines are overrated. One Space Marine could take on the entire marine corps.

>>4613252
Rules don't apply to Gibbs.

>>4618088
So is Caster a Space Marine now?

>>4618102
Well I'd much rather have Caster over that worthless fucker Ahriman

>>4618102
Girls with any interest in men can't be space marines.

>>4618102
She's more like a Sorcerer in service to Tzeentch, which explains why she gets to die in exciting and unpredictable ways, and why she will never, ever be happy.

>>4618108

>>4616170
Thy is Cal so about to get raped?

Marines. Caster is lame.

>>4618108
But for Archer to outwit her in UBW, that must mean he is some kind of Tactical Geni-CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>4618171
Caster stopped being interesting, so she got dead in a funny way, and the story changed because of it.

As long as things are altered, it doesn't really matter. Besides, it all fits into his plans, somehow, some way.

>>4618171

No, no, you messed it up. You're banned from Creed jokes.

>>4618179
Its been a very long time since the last good opportunity to make one, with /tg/ overrun by edition wars and FUCKING QUEST THREADS

>>4618166

Why is he in a washing machine?

>>4618241
Do you want a piece of meat, boy?

>>4618177
>>4618108