/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>it was /a/ fag shitokowanker all along
Yikes im out

So apparently shitoko/a/coomer aka fbcuck was the one spamming these shitoko btfo pics.

Reminder
Rika and the six Rika figurines

>>46085031
Wolf x Shitoko canon?

>>>/h/7814145
Lewd sister thread

>>46085031
Shitokosisters, 5 threads in a row! We are winning so hard!

>>46085244
Satoko is not a white woman.

>>46085331
Of course she is, that's why she has blonde hair and huge tits.

>>46085346
Fbrat, shitoko a shit and Rika is better

>>46085346
I'm pretty sure they are smaller than Rena's

>>46085031
Die wolff/a/g

>>46085367
You what?

>>46086335
You can see them in front of each other when they visit Hinamizawa.

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>>46086335
>>46085031
what the fuck is wrong with fbcuck, go back to /a/, masturbating to your shit. to be honest i rather have you get castrated, you're way worse than rat

>>46086335
Imagine grabbing them from behind and fondling Sowtoko in front of the whole school!

>>46086508
kill yourself already you will fuck off until you fuck off you fucking brainded spammer of brainded threads

one 4 threes this parasite who is waaaay worse than rat thinkg, caving in shitoko's brain, breasts, wanking and haggling with shitcord

They won.

>>46086527
holy fucking god, this is hot

argh

>>46086543
What's K1 doing with Teppei's onahole?

>>46086581
Go back to your /trash/ thread cuckold det

nice thread and shitcordfagging, shitokosissies.

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>>46086527
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>>46085071
why this.. please stop posting rika in these terrible threads

>>46086464
Rena never has tits as big as >>46086335. Even in the original Ryukishi sprites, Satoko was bigger than Rena even though the former was younger.

Spergcord flooding the trash thread with cuckshit shouldn't come as a surprise, but I'm still appalled.

>captcha SAY0

Post handsome men, i'll start.

>>46086694
Back to your /trash/ thread, cuckold sperg.

>>46086694
>he's still mindbroken and he's still an american troon

>>46086694
She identifies as female respect her pronouns,

>>46086694
Satoko's husband is pretty handsome!

>>46086714
You will never be a woman det

>>46086714
>from rape victim to lovers
Why is Stockholm Syndrome so common in young girls?

>>46086713
>stealing my filenames
Kill yourself rat

>>46086728
>as satoko is still a little kid
Uhhhh.... >>46086635 "little kids" don't grow tits like these, spergtroon.
Looks like Teppei didn't know of her growth spurt when he had these thoughts before meeting Satoko again.

They won. They shining lights infuriates the sick and delusional cuckolds (det)

I mean, it's pretty obvious that Satoko was raped in Tatarigoroshi, but who cares?
All of that was prevented in the final loop, so her virginity is still intact. And none of K1's love interests are used goods either.

>>46086742
>>46086733
I am curious as to what broke you so bad that you're unable to live without the need of cuckoldry in your life german scum

>>46086728
Can't doesn't mean she doesn't

>>46086760
My sweet beautiful kawaii Enje

>>46086742
>>46086635
Yeah, this is most certainly not a little kid lol.
The line in Minagoroshi basically confirms that he'd rape her with her current looks as an adolescent girl.

>The German cuck has been malding for over 4 days now
LMAOOOOOOOO

Total Satokei victory.

>a love so powerful it broke the mind of a twisted little german boy
Satokei won
True love WON

Why did Satoko kill her supposedly "love" interest?

>>46086768
That and Satoko's reaction in Tatarigoroshi (being completely broken and afraid of a man's touch) don't leave a lot of room for denial, really.

Samefagging your posts again eh?

Satok(o) x (Tepp)ei won
Satokei won

Satokei won.
Det lost.
Cucks lost.
True love WON.

>>46086880
>Satokei
>>46086843
I agree, Satoko x Teppei won

Satokei will always be Satoko x Keiichi though german cuck

>>46086635
oppai lolitoko...

>pick mystery because a lie, no matter how beautiful or tender, will always remain a lie
>Ange goes schizo and shoots everyone on the boat(She has an Erika tulpa now)

>>46087027

>>46087027
that's just what happens when you let the REAL witch of truth have her way

>>46086843
don't use to shitpost like this

>>46087013
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>>46086843
kill yourselves. literal parasites

honk

why obsessive retards aren't ashamed of their behavior yet? knowing Rika has 6 figurines since the shitty shitshows, it spawned the likes of you and was supposed to advertise the other bitch. Endless cancer posting. Rika completely obliterated everyone in these 2 shows and saved the franchise.

I wish Ange had 6 figurines

>>46087130
If Battler were to impregnate Lion, would he become the head, or would Kinzo and Krauss murder him first?

>>46087027
she did the right thing is what an atheist would say

>>46087163
kinzo would approve, and so long as that's the case krauss can cry all he wants about it but nothing's gonna happen

>>46087164
There are plenty of atheists who agree with the whole message of Umi, it's an argument in favor of faith in humans as well. It always surprises me when I see people who prefer the trick ending, atheist or not, because I'd assume those people would never finish reading and quit way before reaching ep7.

>>46087027
To be fair, one was 100% going to kill her later, and the other had a good chance of being in on it.
I'm not going to say Ange did the right thing, but it's not necessarily the wrong thing either.

Although I'm impressed ryukishi knew what a Tokarev is. Russia's dirty 1911 clone isn't exactly famous for being in anything.

>>46087185
You're forgetting the fact that Krauss cound solo the entire adult side of the Ushiromiya family if the odds were in his favor.

>>46087248
but can he beat gun?

>>46087256
He tanked that hit.

>>46087163
Life as Battler must be so hard with all the crazy ladies swarming him

>>46087265
The opening scene of Saku where Ange and Beato fight over him is peak moe.

Well?

>>46087306
Even ange knows Beatrice is a man lol

>>46087306
uuuuuuuh be right back i'm off to go find erika

>>46087306
But ANGE, think of the SCHIZO PUSSY!!
This is a harder choice than you could ever believe!

>youtube subs
Why? It's been translated for ages.
>>46087313
You will never be a woman, sperg.

>>46087320
to be fair, ange is ALSO schizo pussy, so really it's a choice between sibling incest and daughter incest

>>46087306
I always envisionioned that scene in Ep8 with Ange, Battler and Lambda where they put their heads together and discuss how to beat Bern, but where Ange and Battler can't contain themselves upon getting so close to one another and start furiously making out in front of Lambda. They're made for each other

https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/63251415/#63253091

Wow that shitter was really just an attention whore huh. He sperged out on /trash/ too for literally no reason.
So much for caring about the threads hypocritical faggot.

>>46087330
The Ushiromiyas truly are a family of extraordinary gentlemen.
Rivaled only by Sonozaki twincest threesomes.

>>46087322
I didn't have a screenshot of this, so just went to YouTube to quickly find this moment

>>46087361
You are forgiven.

>>46087156
stop passive offensively replying indirectly, freak

>>46087306
Destroy the illusion and show the stubble

>>46087320
Sayo is the SCHIZO PUSSY, Beato is just evil

>>46087388
very true, but i assume battler and beato save that form for the bedroom

>>46087330
But Beato is also daughtercousin incest, that gives extra points does it not?

>>46087402
And also she's his aunt. That makes it a triple wincest

>>46087402
perhaps, but without the matching red hair and the moaning for onii-chans the incest just doesn't feel as palpable, you know?

>>46087306
The only correct answer.

>>46087412
Daughtercousinaunt incest, that's unthinkably hard to compete with.
I'll admit, sisters are hot, but you just can't win against that royal flush of the genes going in a circle.

>>46087425
I know!

>>46087479
Don't post my generation without permission!! >:(

https://litter.catbox.moe/wlavtn.png

>>46087479
I'm starting to think the real riddle of the epitaph was about the family tree becoming a spiderweb the second Battler turned 18.

>>46087378
can't grow stubble if you lost your balls in infancy

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>>46003916
It was always meant to guide Battler to the right woman...

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>>46087378
>>46087313
>

Awful thread.

Good thread.

death to cord

Evil or insane?

>>46087786
stupid

>>46087786
literally doesn't matter, you take both of them either way

>>46087786
homo are evils

>>46087786
Worse, trans.

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>>46087837
>>>/d/iscord for all your tranny headcanons

>>46087845
Read the manga.

>>46087859
You're saying a girl with an accidental hysterectomy when she's an infant doesn't develop normally??
So brave.

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>>46087859
The pic from the manga doesn't "confirm" anything either, as much as you like to spam it in /v/ threads sperg.
Same as that tweet about Liuon you used to MISquote all the time.

No matter how much you cope, Beatrice will always be a biological woman, while you will always remain a biological man.

>>46087870
>baby's survives from a crushed womb
Literally bullshit. Eunuchtrice theory is more realist.

>>46087877
Says who

>>46087859
>non-canon manga
Anyway, her concerns are about PUBERTY, which will never come considering the injury to the lower abdomen

>>46087879
My trans newsfeed and discord ERPbuddies.

>>46087879
>Says who
The American tranny

>>46087880
>>non-canon manga
http://apgnation.com/articles/2015/01/29/13689/say-red-interview-ryukishi07
R07 himself said in an official interview that the manga is the canon answer of Umineko.
なので、漫画版のEP8に登場する紗代のエピソードは全て、「うみねこ世界」の正式な回答になります。決して、漫画版独自の解釈ではありません。正式な、竜騎士07からの回答です。

>>46087882
Let me guess, you asked the jews if they had any involvement with the september 11th attacks?

>>46087334
that would be nice...

>>46087886
Oops, the website is dead you can use the webarchive or https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Say_It_In_Red!_An_Interview_with_Ryukishi07

>>46087885
Why is Det like this?

>>46087899
Too much cuck porn has rotted his mind

>he says this while shitting up the /trash/ thread with cuckshit

>>46087877
do you honestly think that the rocks conveniently cleaving off a newborn child's dick and balls in such a way that the baby is able to be put back together by some random physician who mainly works on old men without any lasting issues and without the child noticing anything AT ALL until a lack of a period is somehow any more realistic? it's a 'miracle' for a reason, thinking of it in terms of more or less realistic is entirely the wrong way of looking at it

>>46087859
i fucking love that shower shot that shows no hips at all when we can clearly see her luscious curvy legs through the gap in the maid skirt

>>46087921
Eunuchs existed even before Christ, anon.

>>46087921
whacking off a few external organs is marginally more realistic than whatever the fuck would have needed to happen to her ovaries, yes.

>>46087934
You mean landing on her belly?
Yeah, real unlikely scenario there.

>>46087934
>fall on the abdomen
>crush balls
Yeah

>>46087941
landing on her belly and surviving, versus surviving some external damage, yes.

>>46087899
>today
>talking about screenshots which were posted in the threads months ago already
So this complete literal who Mr.Bingle guy conveniently made a post explicitly saying that these screenshots are "fake", in a public server, ready to be screenshotted by sperg and promptly posted in the threads as proof of his innocence?
And he congratulated ((someone)), who is conveniently cropped out of the image as well, for making these edits, ""today"", when they were posted MONTHS ago??

Whether this is one of your lackeys or an edit, you're gonna have to try a bit harder than that if you want to gaslight anons into believing your innocence, sperg.

>>46087930
sure anon, let's just ignore all the actual problems there and pretend the entire issue is that eunuchs shouldn't exist somehow, i'm sure the romans just casually chucked their newborn babies down cliffs to remove their dicks and after a few sutures they were good as new and never noticed the change for the rest of their lives

>>46087944
I don't think you appreciate how much blood goes through a cock and balls anon.
That kind of wound would be far from "some external damage".
You should know this, every tranny knows to use a touriquet.

>>46087921
It's not, not at all. But trannies and shitposters will ignore this truth forevermore.
It's not like he's even serious about it; he's admitted to shitposting when it comes to Yasu countless times before, and hasn't even read Umineko in its entirety.

>>46087961
Romans wouldn't do such thing, but the knowledge to treat such wound would be available by Nanjo.
A womb wound for a baby is fatal.

>>46087975
More so than a blunt-force castration and emancipation with no immediate medical aid because...?

>>46087927
The painel above the shower shows multiple pads, maybe she uses a padded booty.

>>46087958
He's in cahoots with sperg. He joined his server a while ago for a short time and posted blacked edits.

>>46086635
How is that legal?

>>46087987
The odds are higher. Like 10x higher. Unless witches helped Yasu survive.

>>46087975
the pediatric branch of medicine exists as a branch for a reason anon, a standard physician doesn't magically know how to fix a baby's shit without proper study in the field, never mind such a delicate operation a good length AFTER the accident has occurred
for fuck's sake, there's a relevant quote in goddamn latin about this shit
>Ex toto non sic pueri ut viri curari debent
>In general, boys should not be treated in the same way as men
unless you wanna bring up an interview where ryukishi mentioned nanjo has a past in pediatric care, 'realism' means jack fucking shit in this situation

>>46088007
You are the one with the burden of proof here, explain why in terms that don't amount to "Because I said so".

>>46087958
>>46087996
And in the end none of it matters compared to this damning piece of evidence
>>46087908
Mr.bingles is in your private discord det, there isn't anything you can say to deny or disprove this.

>>46087987
you don't actually need the cliff to chop off the balls directly, just damage them enough that removing them seems like a better idea than trying to salvage them. Look up David Reimer, kid had a botched circumcision and the docs were like, well, better remove the rest of it then.

Okay but can we all agree on just one thing?
Trans rights are human rights.

>>46088020
David Reimer also had the misfortune of being landed with a doctor who wanted to see what would happen if he raised a biological male as a girl, and convinced his parents to allow a full castration / sex change.
Surprise surprise, he killed himself.

>>46088023
>sperg already admits defeat
It's okay, trannyxister

>>46088014
Simply because external wounds are not as bad as internal wounds

>>46088023
No

honestly the whole cliffbaby thing is proof ryukishi didn't know what the fuck he was doing after BT died and just took the path of least resistance. it would have made perfect sense for it to be a fantasy coverup for some unfortunate reality (medical mishap, birth defect, whatever), turning it into something dramatic that can be blamed on a single person (Natsuhi). instead ryukishi took the most literal interpretation of both it and the Rosa cliffbeatrice story even though it's contrived and makes no god damn sense, and just insisted upon it until the audience accepted it.

>>46088028
>he killed himself
just like yasu then

>>46088020
i wouldn't exactly bring up david reimer considering he noticed between 9 and 11 whilst having a doctor constantly working as hard as he could to fool the kid and pumping him full of estrogen, that makes sayo not noticing a thing until fucking 16 without any outside influence even more unrealistic

>>46088045
Yasu also had other shit going on, don't pretend you don't know that.

>>46088043
You're retarded.

>>46088023
Only if they pass

>>46088124
Erika sexo

>>46088060
>You're retarded.
>no arguments

why did he do it?

>>46088203
because it was deserved

>>46088203
>he
Satoko is now trans too? Sasuga, sperg.
Truly the most american poster I've ever encountered.

>>46088193
eroka...

>>46088268
erotika...

CHECK CICONIA STEAM PAGE THIS IS URGENT WTF

sex with dlanor

so ryukishi is not writing ciconia anymore because he saw some bad stuff on TV? just turn it off?

>>46088783
unknown technology

>>46086464
They wanted to highlight how Rika and Satoko are younger than the club and draw them very close in body type during that entire scene with Satoko being barely bigger than Rika, which clearly isn't how she's usually drawn otherwise.

>>46088017
>Mr.bingles
even banned in le reddit discord

>>46088783
originally it was because of covid 19 and then because of ukraine russia because it was too close to his planned story and in his mind inappropriate to write about

>>46088762
finally a good post

>>46088045
The cliff was always magical medical science, which is why any sort of "debate" remains. Neither option really makes sense. I don't put that on the catbox either. That's Ryukishi not thinking his own story through.

>>46088783
Flimsy excuse cause he can't take the avalanche of criticism he gets now

>>46090280
>That's Ryukishi not thinking his own story through.
and people will still defend this shit as being the most deepest mystery story ever written just because it's delivered in such a pompous pretentious way, lmao.

>>46090530
He's always been getting avalanches of criticism in Japan though, but that didn't stop him from getting passionate works like Umi out. It's hard for me to think of a reason why he would delay for THIS long (I highly doubt he just randomly lost all motivation to write) but whether anyone buys the excuse doesn't matter. It just kind of annoys me considering a big message in Umi was about the impact fiction can have on our lives. I'm sure phase 2 will be great whenever it comes out, and I'm sure it will at some point, but who knows whenever that will be.

>>46090569
I still don't get why you're so obsessed with Umineko despite not liking it.

I've been trapped on an uninhabited island for the last few years, is Ciconia fully out yet?

>>46090855
Yes, the entire story is released

>>46090793
Don't mess with Umineko fans, we fucking hate Umineko. But in all seriousness Chiru was divisive, like the Chrono Cross to the first four episodes' Chrono Trigger

>>46091173
>we

>>46091205
Clearly I was referring my other split personalities that can die and come back to life at will

>>46091254
My invisible chess piece is valid and you WILL respect it, Erika.

Fondling with Rika's rear from the front, french kissing in front everyone

I have no idea what is this pic but it gets people mad.

Playing with adult Rika psychological games like the coin flip. Call it.

I dont need to be saved from Rika. I already accepted my fate, fate of taking the Rika pill

The most incredible thing about her is her soul, her soul worth million and 7 thousands children souls. Shes the ultimate child who grows to be the empress of andrometda in 2035

>>46091834
or something along these lines, yeah

The manga ruined Umineko

>>46091892
How so

>>46091899
Adding unnecessary details.

>>46091902
Like Sayo actually being a character?

What is this move by Battler's alternate existence called?

>>46091949
>kyushit writing

>>46090793
He mentioned a couple of times that he hates what Umineko did to Satoko, because he was somehow led to believe that it's responsible for higurashi gou and sotsu lmao.
Can't take waifutards seriously.

Rika will break through the immoral code and make the world moralfag

>>46091810
The... coin flip? zawa zawa

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>>46092359
>>46092589
Sup pisscorder, yours trully hanyuufag

>>46092632
schizo

>>>37197753
Which one of you did this?

>>46092674
I was just trying to make a scene. No harm intended. Let it set in flames of frie, these thrrad

>>>/x/37197753
Typo in link in last post.
Anyway, why did you do this whichever one of you it is?

And who is responsible for this? >>>/x/37202168

>>46092791
I feel moving to the countryside would be a good first step

>>46092791
That sounds like something I'd have asked 8 years ago but I've since found the path.
Good luck those trying to "switch reality" though, cause it's impossible to prove you'd done it, all you do is become a missing persons case.

I love Ange, I love everything about her, from her beautiful face down to her sweet and calming voice. From the moment I was graced with her presence in EP3, there hasn't been a day where I haven't thought about her.

No one else matches her ethereal beauty. Her gorgeous, delicate face is accompanied by locks of luscious auburn hair which flow down her neck like a waterfall and marked with her sweet, almond-shaped eyes, which hold a depth of emotion that's difficult to describe, but who's deep blue colors draw me to her with a magnetic-like quality. Her elegant smile, while rare at times, has the power to break through the clouds and clear the sky on a stormy day. She's a beacon of warmth and kindness, capable of melting my heart no matter how I may feel. It's a glimpse into her heart and soul, which has endured so much, but still finds the strength to smile. I can only imagine how soft and warm she must feel under her clothed exterior, wrapping my arms around her and letting the warmth of her well-rounded flesh consume me, feeling like I'm hugging a goddess as I rest my face on her sizeable chest.

I love that her beauty isn't just skin-deep; Her visage is matched by her inner strength as well. Beneath her tough front lies a delicate, sensitive girl who's endured so much, yet who's tender, broken heart manages to keep on beating and eventually be kind to others despite that, no matter how difficult it may be for her, like a rose, beautiful, empathetic and resilient, yet with thorns that remind you of her pain. Despite the weight of her trauma and the burdens she carries, she remains resilient, eventually allowing herself to believe in love in the end in favor of finding the truth, which allows her to move on. Her inner strength elevates her gorgeousness and transcends her essence as a character. She quite literally *is* Umineko to me.

And I adore her voice, which is like music to my ears everytime she speaks. She's soothing and comforting, no matter in what manner she's speaking. Her voice cuts through whatever noise might be bothering me and makes everything fade away as it puts me at ease. She's incredibly gorgeous in every way, and I love every aspect about her. Her prettiness goes far beyond the surface, under which resides her delicate heart, overflowing with love and compassion which pulls me in and surrounds me with its warmth. As long as her journey continues to inspire and captivate me as it has for years, her graceful visage will shine brightly and remain timeless, staying as a powerful mark on my heart which will remain for as long as I live. I thank Ryukishi for creating such a wonderful, elegant character that resonates with me in a way no one else does.

i'm just scared that these texts are ai generated instead of coming from actual mental illness. I don't wanna waste my time with a poser

>>46094055
Im sorry i had to...

I love her because... she's insane

>>46094055
im inclined to believe it isnt AI considering angefags are mental patients. Besides, its soulful

>they are still doing the two threads in the catalogue retardation

>>46094302
We know, Battler.

>>46094302
Thought that was Rosa from the thumbnail.

>>46094302
why do people like kanon so much compared to yasu and her sister he's a soulless pig.

GouSotsu was worth only for this scene

>>46094432
>why
Even though I like the sister more, it's not hard to see why people like Kanon

>>46094395
It's not like Rosa isn't insane

>but who's deep blue colors
just a mentally ill ESL

>>46094490
are people really into fujoshi that much?

>>46094538
But Kanon loves Jessica?

>>46094450
I love gentle headpats

Why umishit brainrotted everyone and especially those beatrice freaks and everything revolves around her is freakish

>>46094450
Kill
Yourself

>>46094591
Nobody mentioned Beatrice though

>>46094608
It's not about mentions, im saying it in general,

>>46094611

>>46094679
an imposter enje!!!

>>46094706
mionge

>>46094679

>>46094761
mion wouldn't do this

My dick
Her ass
You do the math

>>46094764

>>46094848
her tail stretches like rubber normally cat tails don't do that when you pull them

>>46094761
POV: You're the village oldest man

more beach ange

>>46094890
Unlike Satoko, Mion doesn't fuck older men.

>>46094909
Teppei isn't that old

>>46094925
He looks like he's in his forties.

>>46094896
More Ange*, my sweet beautiful Ange

>>46094953
nice legs

What is the most fitting way to humiliate Ange?

>>46094490
He's such an overly-serious goofball that it's hard not to love him. I kinda wish schizos were right that he was actually a totally different person.

Why
Why
Why but
Why

>>46094890
>the village oldest man
but that's Mion

>>46087163
Where's Rosa

>>46095112
Used goods not allowed.

Rika is better
Rika is Mayoneeg

>>46095118
She only had one man in her life (Battler)
>b-but
if it is not expicitly shown, then this never happened

>>46095125
>Mayoneeg
what the fuck is that even supposed to mean

>>46095112
can't fit everyone in, it's also missing all of the stakes, a few chiesters, dlanor, featherine, maria and probably a few other characters i'm forgetting about

>>46095168
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2oo6iEqkFnI

>>46095179
>Maria
C-calm down, Battler was just joking when he said that, right?

>>46095227
maria's not gonna let him wait that long

>>46094992
aside from the hair ornament teenage drama I don't remember any humiliation.

have i told you the retard above me is a complete normalnigger and a ban evader phoneposter

have i told you the retard above me is a complete schizo and a ban evader normalnigger

>it speaks
Whoa my body shivers

>>46095296
why are angeniggers like this?

>>46094432
I know shannon, I'll eat it later, but right now I'm stuck busy with the furniture.
prease andastando

>>46094992
Strip her butt naked and force her to wear a nose hook while she crawls on all fours getting her ass slapped while she's forced to sequel and oink like a piggy

>>46095333

>>46085031

I found the sacred halls...

>>46095052
Mei collab when?

>>46091205
there's at least like three of us

>>46095001
he basically has all the angst that yasu should have had. but instead of expanding on that he basically gets handwaved away and a whole new bunch of angst is stapled on to the nothingburger that is shannon's character.

>>46096141
>he basically has all the angst that yasu should have had
read the manga, she says she purposely placed all her dissatisfaction with life on Kanon, her love for Battler on Beatrice, so she could live somewhat normally as Shannon

The love thing with Sayo is kinda ruined when you realize that in reality she's a self-centered, cheating bitch that used and threw away people who genuinely cared for her for Battler, who literally forgot her and "fell in love" with her mostly just feeling guilt and pity and he loved her witch persona more than her

Guys can someone help me I want to start playing higurashi when they cry so I went to the OP link, but there are several higurashis so I don't know which one, I'm confused

>>46095326
like what?

>>46095337
projecting your cuck fantasies again?

>>46095494
Shannon chair

>>46096782
How is humiliating ange my cuck fantasy?

>>46096732
Onikakushi

>>46096841
aren't you the mentally ill satiating his cuck fantasies by humiliating and sharing ange with other anons?

I've never read ryukishi's works other than umineko. how 7th am I?

>>46096900
God, I would just destroy Rosa's pelvis.
Easily the most sex of the aunties.

>>46096934
If you've read even a single line of when they cry then you're more 07th than 90% of the IPs in this thread

>>46096973
I thought most of you guys were umineko higurashi ciconia scholars.

I love hating this rat

why shitokowankers targeting rika again

>>46095337
imagine how funny ange will look doing acrobatics in her ridiculously tight outfit during PE class.
>fat girl trying to be acrobatically/slapsticky funny
how humiliating.

>>46096629
most of umineko falls apart when you think about it for more than five seconds

>>46096629
Someone didn't understand anything that was going on psychologically it seems

>>46097536
>>46097543
kill yourself, rat

>>46097551
Where do you see rat here, you schizo

>>46097559
Meant to only reply to the first post.

>>46097555
long ange trips

>>46097543
my point still stands and her behaviour is still inexcusable, especially towards Jessica, George, Kumasawa...

>>46097611
>Kumasawa
what did she do to her?

>>46097618
I mean Sayo planned to kill her too, even though she has never done anything bad to her. Same with Maria, who was supposed to be her "friend".

Honestly, very unlikeable character, almost as much as Kinzo

>>46097611
Well yes, this is obvious, so is nearly everyone else's. Fair enough if you don't like Sayo but mentally fucked people like her exist everywhere, and it's really not her fault she turned out like this. You can say this about most of the cast in Umineko. The whole point is seeing a person behind their actions and making you realize there isn't just a single person to blame for the family's downfall, almost the entire family is at fault to some degree. You can't deny Yasu's life was completely shit due to the mistreatment she received by the people around her, so I don't blame her for being completely fucked mentally with 10 layers of depression. She' been forced to dig herself a hole all her life culminating in finding out she's an incest baby and ended up completely stuck and desperate for someone to understand her. Whether you wanna judge Sayo or not, you can't deny she's deserving of empathy just as much as anyone else.

>>46097645
what you've got to remember is that these stories were just that: stories
plans, ideas, whatever you wish to call it, the main point of the matter is that she didn't DO them, she thought up a milllion different ways of killing everyone, wrote them down, tossed them into the sea, but you know where she was in truth? by the end of the night, where was she?
sad, alone, depressed, sitting in the gold room, doing nothing at all but feeling sorry for herself
the murders in truth begin not because of her, but because of the family members she was cursed with and their insatiable greed
thought crime is not a punishable offense for a reason, expecting a suicidal girl who ends up killing herself not 48 hours later to actually follow through on her revenge fantasies
as for the 'cheating', she's not even actually dating jessica in the first place so all you've really got is a confused girl who has multiple people pining for different sides of her with unresolved feelings for another man, you might as well get mad at a million shoujo manga protagonists because this isn't exactly uncommon in fiction

>>46097747
Damn, it's almost like this crazy bitch had a split personality or something. What a freak.
i don't mean that sayo pls date me no other woman will tolerate me

>>46097747
Well said

>>46096629
Yeah any Kanon and Jessica pairing is just sad when you know the truth. Sayo did all the cousins dirty

>>46088124
...

I forgot, how much did featherine make up again in her stories?

rika naizuri.

>>46097675
yeah, I understand that the family's sins go way back in the past and this is not just Sayo alone
>>46097747
If the siblings had not solved the epitaph, she would carry out murders. Had she not sent the letter, had she not presented the guns to the siblings, then nobody (probably) would die. But again this is the same as in the other post, I understand this is not just her sin alone.
And yet, while she "loves" Battler, she is also engaged with George and still tries to get close with Jessica. Multiple personalities is not really excuse here

>George

>>46098224
>she would carry out murders
how can you say? you're assuming a girl who immediately kills herself the first opportunity she gets was somehow going to work up the nerve to actually go out and kill people, meanwhile she can't even bring herself to kill maria herself even in her stories (both EP1 and EP2 have her blow up with the island)
>then nobody (probably) would die
the lion fragment says hi
>she "loves" Battler
once again, she's trying to move on past those feelings, hence why she's with george in the first place, trying to blame her for not moving past him quick enough when the only reason they've come back up is because he returned is just discounting how irrationally human feelings work
>still tries to get close with Jessica
jessica's getting close with HER you mean, she's the one who brings up feelings for kanon in the first place, sayo can't be blamed for someone else liking her
>Multiple personalities is not really excuse here
where was it an excuse? different people love different sides of her, that's a fact, it's not that she'd be excused for those different sides dating different people (which they're not) but simply the truth that she shows different faces to different people and those people happen to have feelings for those faces in particular
i'm starting to think you don't get sayo's story at all at this point

>>46086508
I prefer Satocow.

>>46085071
rikaschizo already admitted that he's from /a/ and only arrived last year.

>>46088005
It's legal in Japan.

>>46098317

>i'm starting to think you don't get sayo's story at all at this point

That much is obvious. Some people seem to struggle to understand what's going on with characters on a psychological level in Umineko. A good litmus test for this is to ask people what someone thinks of Rosa and Maria's relationship in the vn

>>46098358
Though don't get me wrong, I encourage people to try and work on their understanding of a work, no shame in asking questions about a work or trying to learn more about it to better your own understanding. But when someone becomes stubborn in their view of one work is when things get annoying

>>46098386
>>46098317
Okay, I will admit I actually like Sayo, do not beat me, I just wanted to talk about her, specially something other than the same ratcord shit. I saw this posted some time ago on /a/ and it had me thinking, so I also decided to post it here.

>>46098471
Fair enough, didn't mean to come off rude so sorry about that. I enjoy talking about Sayo too but it tends to be pretty difficult in these threads

>>46098471
in that case doing some more sayo reps still wouldn't hurt, it's better to understand naturally through your own extra reading than to be forced to understand by anon admonishing you

>>46098525
I agree but there's nothing wrong with talking or asking about it in these threads as well, people just tend to be agressive due to the negative stigma in these threads. Seeing the work through more views than just your own does wonders to helping you learn and form a better personal understanding.

>>46096629
BASED BASED BASED
Bern was right again!

New rule for these threads: Stop masturbating.

>>46094014
sovl

A lot of high quality discussion tonight.

>>46100565
was there really though

here let me make it worse

Kanon is the one who has worked on the island for ten years and is the "original" Shannon. The current holder of the name Shannon is a new hire.
Already this hits many of the themes of Umineko, perhaps even more than one-person Shkanon. The transfer of names ("Shannon" transfering from Kanon to Sayo-Shannon), the transfer of souls (the illusion of "Shannon"'s soul moving from "Shannon"'s body to Kanon's, though of course there was no such transfer, just a shifting of identities), possibly the attempt to remake one person into another if Kanon deliberately tried to make new-Shannon into his old self/Battler's ideal girl (she can apparently grow the large breasts Battler likes where Kanon couldn't lol; this might even be why he's against her relationship with George and invokes "furniture", her job as furniture is literally to be Battler's girl lol). Other things like people having multiple sides of themselves is still entirely present, with Kanon having his old self as "Shannon" and the new Shannon perhaps having whatever her actual personality is beyond taking on the already-exisiting Shannon role.

Hearing of Battler's return, Kanon began to fear that Shannon would take over his relationship with his old friend/crush/cousin/half-brother/it's complicated, just as she'd taken over his previous role as "Shannon". As a result he began writing the murder mystery stories, and placing a gamble on them. The solution comes in layers- a witch did it, Shannon alone did it, Kanon who is the "real" Shannon did it. The idea of single-person Shkanon is a red herring produced by attempts to raise questions around Shannon and Kanon's identities, which if noticed should lead to identifying Kanon as the former Shannon and so on; the idea that they're literally the same person was never meant to be taken as an actual possibility. Anyway, if Battler only reaches the first layer the there's no miracle; if he reaches the first layer there's the miracle of Shannon being "revived" in Sayo and Battler seeing her as his old friend and possibly entering a relationship wth her... and if the third layer is reached, Battler realizes where his old friend really went.

The evidence for this is strongest in the earlier episodes. Episode 2 most notably has the flashback sequence where Kanon angsts on about how staying on this island for so long drains your identity, despite him supposedly being a recent hire; Shannon meanwhile seems clueless about the work and generally distracted by other things outside of it, like George. At the end of it, Kinzo crying over Beatrice is paralleled with Jessica crying over Kanon... but George and Shannon have nothing of the sort. Not even something like, Shannon thinking to herself, if George really pursues this relationship, he might end up crying too, which would make the audience go, what does she mean by that? No, just nothing.
And of course despite raging at Shannon for pretending to talk to Beatrice, right after the actual island stuff starts he's clearly shown playing Beatrice for Maria, while Shannon serves tea in between those scenes and doesn't seem to really give a shit about any of it. It's even paralleled with Jessica asking him for his real name at the end of the flashbacks- he feels he's going to "remember" something both times, just in the flashback he violently rejects it while with Maria he lets it happen. Which also implies that in the Jessica scene he was possibly considering whipping out the Beatrice act for her... no wonder he reacted so badly lol
That "chef's notes" side story from around ep3 also heavily implies a connection between Kanon and Beatrice... with Shannon not even being mentioned once. It also has Kanon heavily implying to Gohda that Kanon is the one who took the actions attributed to Beatrice ie Kanon is Beatrice, via a puzzle involving the ownership of a single key hidden beneath a scary story... you know, the entire point of the gameboard stories. And he tries to invoke red text (insisting there's only one key) but Gohda doesn't get it and doesn't play along. Interesting, no?

This also provides a partial solution for the ep3 locked room chain. Since Kanon holds both the names "Kanon" and "Shannon", if he dies you can technically say both are dead, while the one we think of as Shannon runs free. Since she's not a victim, she can simply lock herself into the parlor room, or some shit like that, I can't be bothered to check the actual wording. In other words it's similar to ep1, where her faked death allows her to neither be a "survivor" nor a "victim" and thus escape reds given for either group. Also thanks to the wacky definition of instant death it's possible for Kanon to be merely incapacitated and to end up dragging himself back to the mansion to guide Jessica, if you want to take any of that as actually happening in some form.

It's still possible to insist upon this solution for quite a while into the work, including most of ep6. Consider that Kanon actually solved Battler's locked room, while Shannon sat on her ass and did nothing- he didn't even need to ask for her help or permission or anything. His entry to the mansion is described as him leaping right through the door like it's not there... which sounds like a metaphor for him already being inside the mansion, not him being the alternate personality of another person who was physically opening the door and entering. I don't know exactly what this is, but it could be him being the other Battler and literally taking Battler's place.

Also, consider Erika. Erika's role is to threaten to take Beatrice's place at Battler's side. Kanon, in this scenario, began writing the stories because he felt Shannon threatened to take over his relationship with Battler. Now consider the shootout scene of ep6. On one layer, Shannon shoots Kanon; on the gameboard, Erika shoots Kanon; and on the last layer, Erika shoots Beatrice. If Kanon is Beatrice... Shannon is Erika. And Kanon-Beatrice sacrificed his own piece and threw the autism duel to win on the highest layer.
You could even take Erika trampling over the mysteries written by Beatrice as a reflection of the conflict implied in ep2, where Shannon's view of magic irritates Kanon despite him literally acting as Beatrice just paragraphs later. It's like Shannon saw what he was writing and switched from believing herself special by way of magic to believing herself special by way of mysteries.

It's also been suggested that chick-Beatrice was in part a metaphor for Battler coming back and finding that Shannon had gone from being tomboyish and sharp-minded to... well, how she is. So what does it mean that her personality returns entirely due to Kanon's actions while Shannon just sits on George's dick in the sealed room and spins?
I forget when it was, but there's a scene where Jessica comments that Shannon used to be more levelheaded, to which Shannon gives some flimsy non-answer... "Levelheaded" sounds similar to what Kanon thought in ep2 about being "composed and intellectual", doesn't it?

>>46100793
two hoes

I wish I had enough autism to reread umineko and overanalyze everything to the point of insanity, it was fun the first time through

>>46101344
read the manga, it is amazing how much better Umineko is when you actually have idea of what is going on

>>46100793
>>46100565
Better than usual at least.

>>46102426
I will never read the manga.

>>46102812
why though? It is not even that long

>>46102865
If I wanted to experience the story again, I'd reread the VN. Not a fan of adaptations that include changes, and manga are the worst medium to experience what is originally a "sound" novel.

>>46102889
go reread again retard

>>46102865
Imagine the threesomes if Beatos didn't merge into one...

>>46102889
I think the manga is a great retelling but not having sound is a huge blow. The sound design in the vn is excellent