/jp/ - Otaku Culture

stocks are just imaginary numbers that don't mean anything, unless you start putting the company's money into it to pump it back up after it starts falling, that can make a company go bankrupt real quick, but anycolor isn't stupid enough to do that, right?

>>46040200
there's very little evidence that stock buybacks work in the long run. It'd be smarter for anycolor to invest in music or a small game studio instead of this nonsense.

>>46040221
>It'd be smarter for anycolor
uh oh

Kanae please fucking lose, so you can go back to sutogura, I want to see Nashima again.

They are hyping Kanae's Garen up, uh oh

>>46040240
Akali is his counter, he is not winning here.

>>46040240
too bad he didn't put fiora into his picks, he should just play solo split push all game and ignore his team if they're such dogs

watching ririmu play league is kind of painful

>>46040273
be glad that you didn't see that gank by reid then, that actually made my eyes bleed

>>46040255
He IS winning, but not hard enough I think.
Just like last game where his small lead didn't matter when Noah fed as if she was a professional prostitute.

>>46040348
they'll get outscaled by kogmaw milio anyways, and it's not like kanae even understands garen, not that it's a particularly deep champion but somehow kanae still doesn't understand the basics of it, if you're against a tank then go triforce conqueror, if you're against an agile opponent you go phase rush stridebreaker, but kanae goes phase rush triforce every game, it's just like ??? and then the only other part of the champion is that you push W before you get hit with CC, then just roll your face on the keyboard and push every button

KANAEEEEEEE

>>46040387
To be fair, he started playing Garen 2 days ago, it's on Uruca to tell him what to do.

>>46040459
uruca is a pretty sloppy coach and didn't teach him garen w but he did tell him to go stridebreaker first, which he never does

ENsharts delenda est

Wow, alpha sucks.

>>46040200
>>46040221
they have confidence in the next quarter report tho

I looked away at another match so I didn't see what happened but the enemy team must've made some really big macro mistakes, they had a really easy comp, amumu stands in front then the 4/0 kogmaw milio melts everyone from 3 miles away, they just had to walk towards the enemy in a ball and win

>>46040513
garen nuked amumu, and no one tried to fight back. Kanae and the others made a lot of fucking mistakes, so honestly, Kuzuha's team is just much worse.

>>46040230
I think he's tired of sutogura already though, he doesn't really have much to do other than check in on his employees every now and then, also mondo will be away for cr fes for quite a while so if nashima is awake then he'll be made into the acting boss again, which he had a meltie about the last time he had to do it because he's bored of all the gang stuff

this is gonna be a tournament where nijisanji participants only win against other nijisanji participants huh, ebio's team lost to fucking forte's team, I didn't think that was possible

>>46040663
I mean...

>>46040663
ABO is probably the worst jg here, so eh.

>>46040686
I love forte, she's really sweet but holy fuck her team looks like some bottom tier trash
>>46040698
reid gives him a good run for his money but ebio is a fucking dog, they should've told him already that jax is too technical for him to play and just put him on a 1 button jungler like sejuani or something, but still they have shaka who can shotcall the entire game and the rest of them just have to push their ult buttons

I love her!!!!!!!!

Ibu....

I trust Kanae again. The team got the jobbing out of their system.

1v5 and win.

>>46041268
obo and noah literally just have to sit under their tower and they can win

forte got a pentakill

At least Ibu won once.

mito's girlfriend is on bluesky

why is the niji thread so dead when the biggest yab is happening rn

>>46041723
What's happening?

>>46041747
Princess of Helestia snubbed the dog in a twitter interaction.

>>46041778
which dog?

time for kanae's second ptsd with irelia

>>46041799
the one anon wants to fuck

>>46041817
Poor shiba.

>>46041801
He's better at avoiding tilt now

Kanae is carrying

>>46041935
He's winning lane while also roams the most out of all laners. Reido better suck his dick after this.

>>46041847
this irelia is also a lot worse than the previous one

>>46041431
Which one?

>>46042195

ughhhh rushing steelcaps into malphite, kanae wtf is this shit

kanae that tower greed is shameful

welp guess he's just too tired now, he's playing like dogshit

tell lisa to build banshees jesus, this would be such an easy win from teamcomps if they had the slightest idea of what items do

Ah, it's over. They can't focus anymore.

yeah kanae, great call, start the dragon stacked up in the pit when you see malphite teleporting in, great, at least the first game they lost wasn't his fault, but this one definitely is

Kek backdoored

Kanae is always struggling against shibuharu no matter the game, the two are too similar.

>>46042432
Hal even won the Hoshikawa pussy over him...
kuyashi...

Is the spam about that tourney nobody cares about over yet?

>>46042476
every team with nijisanji members has lost already so yeah, we can go back to talking about stocks and drama

We are going to talk about the next CR cup now, team 2 looks fucking weak by the way.

>>46042507
wow a tournament where each team has a nijisanji member in it

>>46042507
I'll be shocked if it gets 50 posts.

>>46042513
True.

https://twitter.com/pongari/status/1755278431917641851

https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1755265686224449640
https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1755274044012728695
https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1755282076402639059
now this is funny.

I don't care about some nobody, what I wanna know is whose on for the next "liver's impact on the company is not important" financial report.
I'm betting it'll be Nachume.

>>46042832
looks like pogman is going to get axed.

>>46042803
Luxiem seems to be the smartest ensharts. Grim

couldn't have happened to a better group of people.

kuzuha's team - last place.

God damnit, I'm sure that Kanae's team would have won if they faced Inui dono's in the finals.

Ibu's consolation prize for almost losing his mind with karubi.

>>46042862
Shame it's an Anykara report.

>>46042803
Just close the overseas branches for good and salvage whatever leftovers are not rotten or can speak japanese in the main branch. Fire all the people in charge of handling the overseas branches so they don't end up continuing their misconduct.

I'll burst out laughing if pogman is the one to kill the branch.

>>46043035
>Fire all the people in charge of handling the overseas branches
Again, shame it's an Anykara report. From Anykara.

>>46042947
or if his brain didn't melt by the end of the day, he made so many fatal mistakes for no reason when the victory was handed to them on a plate

Fucking shut down that wretched branch already Anykara. Holy shit. What a massive shitstain on the brand. Everything is rotten from management to livers. Westeners are subhuman.

what a great 3 days.

Yet it's not the westerners who said the vtubers (you) love don't matter.

True, anycolor simply stated that Selen didn't matter. Which she doesn't, good riddance.

Not to the stocks they don't.

>>46043189
They said that about an ENshart, I don't care. Just get rid of all them. They bring nothing but trouble.

>>46043213
To Nijisanji, EN is an offshoot that deluded themselves into thinking they mattered. To Anykara, there is no difference between Nijisanji and Nijisanji EN. It all goes to the same pile of money.

Unless you're suggesting there's a stock for each specific branch?

>>46043165
Wow, what a funny filename.
https://i.warosu.org/data/vt/img/0681/81/1707056156309176.jpg

>>46043222
There is a difference in the sense of splits, but iirc they made 10-15% of Anycolor's total revenue. Which isn't exactly peanuts.

I'm disgusted by the fact a /vt/ard is using my wife's face.

>>46043222
Well obviously you don't know anything and haven't ever even looked at one of their IR reports.

If they're important, they should manage it better.
If they're not, they should just nuke it.
Simple as.

>>46043269
He says while posting in an anti thread

>>46043280
Why are you still posting when you've already been caught, faggot?

>>46043275
But ensharts don't want to be managed better

>>46043245
Told you guys the biggest haters of EN are just repressed fans.

>>46043288
*yoink*
I caught you now, what are you gonna do about it?

>>46043245
Saved it from here: >>>/vt/68181686
Yes, I know, /vt/, but the reason I use that thread is because it's peaceful and with no shitposting compared to this one. No ENsharts being posted either.

>>46043316
based

>>46043266
Yes, but the fact remains that they're not making the financial statement as Nijisanji but as Anykara. There's never been a single case of specifying a specific person and even if it never happens again, it should not have happened for anyone.
>>46043270
Read for yourself then. I'm sure there's an English version somewhere since you clearly need it.
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/tdnet/2372439/00.pdf

>>46043316
Then why are you here to shitpost across boards?

>>46043316
>Yes, I know, /vt/
Stopped reading there.
Stay in containment and never come back.

>>46043316
/jp/ is also my shitposting hub too

>>46043316
Thanks for confirming its a /vt/ raid by repressed ENfags like (you).

>>46043327
You're funny

>>46043316
It's funny how despite being at the epicenter of this shit, that thread's reaction to the drama didn't go beyond one or two "damn the board's kinda fast" posts.
Even this thread talked about it more. Or maybe that's the way anons are doing it now? Use this one as shitpost containment while chilling and liveposting there?

>>46043340
Because sadly, containment procedures never truly work. I didn't expect any of this to devolve into yet another "/vt/ is epic bros you should join our bread :)" argument at the very least.

So what I'm getting from this is every retarded shitpost in the past few years is from /vt/ards in the """"good"""" thread coming here for... no reason?
Damn. That's enlightening.

so it was never entards raiding us but the thread about actual nijisanji members? yuck

>>46043387
they were doing it even before /vt/ and EN were a thing, they're just that dedicated

>>46043387
There's a joke to be made here about /jp/ being the dumping grounds of any and all Japanese culture, but frankly put it's too depressing for me to make it. Really wish those faggots would shit up their own thread instead of coming here.

>>46043387
Basically how I'm seeing it.

>>46043366
I've told this thread multiple times that the /vt/ thread is the discussion thread and this is the one all the shitposting goes to but they always ignored it

>>46043434
Probably because you're the one trying to force that idea.

>>46043396
it was entard raid that pushed sensible people to containment board. now those come back here to shit on the entards who remain

REMINDER: If don't you like ENsharts you're not part of /jp/

wonder how many times anons will admit to raiding before meido actually does something?

The answer is too many times.

I'd rather not talk about Nijisanji at all than deal with a thread of faggots in the cesspit.
Not to say they could make me stop.

>>46043521
I have no idea who this is.

Unironically, though, this thread is now dead at the best of times, and it seems plausible that it's because the ones from here who actually posted about their vtuber's content have moved their posts there while keeping a tab for this one out of habit or something.

>>46043521
Negligible btw.

>>46043533
https://twitter.com/hytebrand/status/1755306063115788503 sponsor that anycolor lost

>>46043521
I can't believe hyde doesn't want to collab with Nijisanji anymore

the only sponsor that matters is nintendo, even if it means never mentioning palworld

>>46043535
A part of me's agreed with you and known that was roughly how it went for the longest time, and I can only imagine something similar happened to /vy/, but on principle I'll never post there and after today's revelation they only use this place to shitpost? I definitely never will. They can suck my cock.

>>46043566
which liver would u fug?

>>46043533
commiefornia compay

>>46043571
No...

/vy/ was killed by the guraspammer, I'm not keeping a tab open and check new posts just to see the same pictures being spammed every day

>>46043539
Doesn't seem like a meaningful brand at all, but the fact that it is one and they're suddenly pulling out is funny. Guess that IR really did bite them back even if only in the most minor of ways.

>>46043593
The who?

>>46043617
I love my daughtermommywife but I think you've got the wrong thread.

>>46043593
I don't think I've seen that guy for a year. The threads dead and I don't really post in it much anymore myself either but it stays up long enough that I can check it once a week and see if anythings new. Like the thing with Kaiji.

i sure hope that guys imagedumping to clear away the shittery and isn't one of the raiders trying to kill the thread faster

>>46043656
he's gonna have to keep dumping for months to come because this fire isn't gonna die down any time soon lmao

>>46043571
You don't have to post but can you at least read it?

>>46043665
Nope.

>>46043670
:(

>>46043521
They're going to make a case for Doki.
The first domino falls.

>>46043617
They definitely got married and are happily living together.
That's why both barely stream nowadays.

>>46043741
Strange, I don't remember my husband getting married to someone other than me.

BUT THAT'S A HORSE

>>46043764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mEGcrkDAX0

>>46043764
No, he's glue now. But I love him anyways.

en is donezo

>>46043741
She would have to compete with the superior Heavenly King

>>46043820
Literally every single go I go to jerk off to lewd VRChat girls I pet the kyatto too much he's following them. He has his harem already and we simply cannot compete.

>>46043820
the cutest and straightest gay ship

fucking kuzuha, stop playing league already, I want to watch the archive.

>>46043811
>Maybe I should just treat all of this as a job
Yes actually. What is wrong with them?

>>46043811
Wait, I knew a woman that acted like this. Did she manipulate me and not even have the decency to suck me off?

>>46043885
Ibu tried so hard...

>>46043811
there's too much estrogen in the water

>>46043811
I'm gunna need a citation for this. Also I'm not reading all that.

Women, am I right.

>>46043922
I looked into it and it turns out I burned a few braincells for no reason.
It really is just a bunch of screaming animals over there.

>>46043811
What's this teen drama shit get the fuck outta here

>>46043811
I actually got curious enough to read it. Anons compared it to one giant woman moment, and yeah it is, even from the guy--ESPECIALLY from the guy--but more than that, this seems like a huge autism bomb.
Holy fuck these people don't know how to communicate.

>>46044081
Who leaked it

Indeed, today was the day.

>>46044094
Nobody knows. I don't think the guy you're replying to cares either.

It was me, the ceiling ninja.

>>46044114
I don't, but the motivations would be nice to know, since I'm not sure what anyone is supposed to take from this.
I guess one could interpret it as proof of the guy being a bully to add weight to the "bullysanji" narrative, but again, all I see is two autistics failing to have a reasonable exchange.

>>46043811
imagine being this entitled

>>46044146
You're right. I should fix my mistake. I don't think the girl anon was replying to and that now I'm replying to cares either.

>>46044094
it looks like it was from the other board. Could be fake, but I hope it's not because it's too funny.

>>46044163
I see you're not the best at communicating either.

>>46044094

>>46044184
It's okay, I understand when you're on the rag it's quite easy to mistake things that aren't actually happening as things that are. My sister had it pretty bad in that regard.

He revived LoL

idk why anyone is still giving tourists the time of day when they literally admitted to tanking these threads on purpose.
Just move on and ignore them.

>>46044234
Fair enough, my bad.

>>46044231
this fucker got me to play a couple games only to remind me why I stopped playing it. I hope the rest of you don't fall for it.

>>46044236
Wasn't talking about anyone in specifics but just in general.

>>46044231
it was never alive in japan though

>>46044249
I purely watched the streams quietly by myself and enjoyed them, I know better than to ever play a MOBA again. Both League and Dota stole probably 7000 hours of my time in highschool and I ain't repeating that mess.

They should play dota instead, it's a better game

I can't watch Siska anymore.

Chronoir did try AoE with Shaka and Sasatikk, I wonder how that turned out

I got turned off from MOBAs when I went to my first DotA game and a teammate shat on me for not playing like a god.
It hit me pretty hard, since this was before 4chan desensitized me to everything and I could brush it off, but now I realize that the guy did me a favor.

>>46044316
You were the kid that got bullied off a part of the internet, glad you learned from it. The worst part is the games themselves can be pretty fun but the people making and playing them tend to be pretty retarded.

I'm here to fuck the yordles

This is why the /vt/ threads are better. Every post here is always argumentative and made in bad faith.

>>46044337
you want fun you fucking play minecraft okay, if you play a competitive game then you will read all the abilities and watch 3 guides before you load up the game or I WILL flame you

>>46044348
hi >>46043316

>>46044234
I did when someone admitted to only following Kenmochi and en, and another saying Pomu was their first vtuber.

Lize has big tits is official, you can't tell me otherwise

>>46043741

Is being that much of a cumbrained retard normal on their board?

>>46044866
you should go back to whichever board you came from with your wojak shit

I'm constantly thinking about tiny little boy penises that I can fondle with my big strong hands. Does that count as being cumbrained?

Don't delete the file, you coward.

https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1574015545275449344

new costume?

>>46044790
Nekomasu lost...

>>46044883
janny hates Lize's boobs, what a faggot

>janny
Who?

Today

>>46044989
2016 election tourist for "meido."

>>46045006
was a good day.

Karubi

>>46045036
Hoshino Ai my favorite liver
though she doesn't live anymore, kek

>>46045036
Is that supposed to be Hanalisa? Because that's chilling.

>>46045203
Yes.

>>46045036
cute

>>46045217
Disgusting. She's not nearly dirty enough to be Bussan.
>>46045245
Finally some good images.

>>46045245

>>46045277
give the fucking sauce

>>46045277
no dick?

30 minutes until a negligible stream happens.

I'm so fucking sick of blue archive
Please god make these people stop streaming blue archive

>>46045482
bottom left

>>46045681
Sana and Anju will NEVER stop playing blue archive

>>46045790

>>46045790
It's over 50k now.

>>46045802
Wow I wonder where they were during her usual streams as Selen

>>46045804
77k now but not taking anymore screenshots since you all get the point by now.

holy shit she's a tomato

Finally, a real tomato vtuber.

i love tomatoes

>>46045790
100k now. It's nice seeing the support.

Copyright not-free dumpsters...

She's not even monetized? Damn, she really was obscure.

You can really tell that's an indie model from over 3 years ago, huh.

poor girl...

>>46045834
she streamed on twitch

the purple doragon just suit her voice so well tho

inb4 she says something and burns bridges so she won't pass her hololive audition

>$3000 lore video
I never understood those.

>>46045851
That'd make sense actually. Wonder if she'll dual-stream now since that's allowed.

Statement's at the end, we're in for the long haul...

stop posting off-topic entrash

>>46045857
What hololive audition? She's already had more growth than most vtubers, has a manger, and clearly hates being part of corporations now.

this is going to take 3-4 hours. Go jerk off to netorase eromanga like me and read up someone elses summary later on.

waking up at 7pm
truer chuuba than most

>>46045881
Jokes on you I already jerked off 30 minutes ago.

>>46045875
most vtubers, except for anyone who is a part of hololive for a week

+18 new IPs
it still puzzles me why you fags come here.

>>46045893
So most vtubers, retard.

>>46045892
sounds like you can go for another round. Fire up that search engine and pick up where you left off.

>>46045898
Nijisanji thread

>I'm so free now
Thank god for that.

I do hope the first thing she puts her newfound money and freedom to is a better model. It's pretty crusty.

>therapy

rare to see a therapist actually understand what youtube is

>>46045900
did you just call me the R word

She got so many business inquiries the system thought she was a bot. That means it's in the hundreds in days.

I've basically never heard of emails bouncing, is that a thing?

wonder if tards will still claim its empty support

https://twitter.com/BySovereign this is her new manager

>>46045932
Sounds like he's a really good one so far. Better than anything they've provided at least?

mr man

More confirmation everything was paid out of pocket.

Everything.

People laugh at EN but they gather more viewers than the most special JP streams

very nice, she is doing amazing alone, let's hope the rest of the eops will follow her as well, so this garbage branch can close down already.

0 profit in a year through all the events and things she had to host herself since managers didn't give her a single dime
$200k

200k.....

spent 200k last year WHAT

>>46045944
drama boost. miguel gato return was almost 100k too

Two hundred THOUSAND? All from her own cut???

Wonder how much Chronoir has to pay for their studio time.

what exactly does management even do for EN? They should all just leave since none of them are getting 3D's or Albums.

>>46045959
Speaking of 3Ds they all had to buy chibi3Ds, like KR btw, outta pocket too.

>>46045959
Make them kill themselves, take their money, refuse to change, push against JP, probably slapped someones nuts at some point too, the list goes on and on.

90% of EN will leave by the end of the year, remember my words

>>46045966
>>46045973
true, management obviously doesn't care about foreigners. They should all go solo.

More support from EA then her own company.
Disgusting.

god that model looks like ass im sorry her old design fit her too well

>>46045980
They all absolutely should, and pretty much everyone whose left proven that they're better off without it.
>>46045986
I still can't believe that shithole of a company managed to do one whole good thing in this specific scenario, now make TF3 you cowards.

heh, if only these dramanig subningens would show up for her normal streams

>>46045987
It's bad on its own but... she's got money and hundreds of contacts now.

>>46045957
chronoir makes way too much money passively for themselves and the company for that to even matter

the whole SEA is watching

>>46045987
I get the idea what she was going for but the permanently tilted mouth is just ugly.

>>46045995
>everyone whose left proven that they're better off without it.
true, every former EN member has ended up in a better spot. Everyone except for Petora should all go indie.

So addicted to streaming she can't even play games solo lmao

>>46046009
Petra's the only one who'd have to go with a new life, since her old one is dead. Lewds never ;_;

>>46046019
wrong, petora is too incompetent to go indie. It'd never work out. She needs anycolor unlike the rest.

>>46046023
Indies can have managers, there's nothing left there for anyone.

>>46045957
Most ex-JP only complain about being restricted but I've never heard they complained about money and cost. Did en management embezzled all Anycolor money?

>>46046026
Probably?

>>46046008
that and the permanently angry eyebrows

>>46046026
There's been a few people who while active have complained about opportunities and cuts so you're wrong there, but never to this degree. 200k is too damn much.

>>46046026
gundou claims she makes more money than her time in nijisanji but 70% of what she showed came from fantia so it's clearly a market she couldn't really tap before

It's a weird world when a corporate vtuber is getting more support from artists than her company.

>I made a guide on how to use skeb
nice

she introduced skeb to eops.

>>46046026
As far as I know, having lots of projects that for some reason cost exorbitant amounts of money is a personal choice.

>>46046043
why is she always eating a borger

>>46046057
If you combine everything she did in the entirety of last year it was mostly in-house tournaments. What possibly payment could be required?

>>46046055
bad idea

>>46046066
Collab fees of course!

>>46046066
she's a woman who would overpay artists. They're not intelligent with money.

Doggy sex

>>46046031
She's got a new model in the plans at least so that's a plus.
>>46046054
>>46046055
I have complex feelings on this but 80% of them come from the hole it spiraled down leading to people like Sanuki getting their weird fetishes, but I'll just chalk it up to her being one of the people and not the sole person since nobody could have expected that.

>>46046066
She invested 200k for no returns. Were these projects even profitable to begin with?

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1335843487548198913

lotta nijisanji in the thread here

>>46046057
yeah part of it is definitely bad decision making on her part

>>46046091
They would have been if she got paid and supported.

>>46046098
/jp/ - English Dub Culture

>>46046079
Even still, that's not 6 digit numbers.
>>46046091
I'm asking you again: why would she need to pay to host Nijisanji events as a member of Nijisanji? I don't know specifically what she's done but I remember puyopuyo, did she pay for permissions to do it herself?

>>46046032
>>46046057
I think Selen was actually being scammed by management or she being scammed by external content creator too many time and Nijisanji tried to stop her from pissing out money too much but menhera dragon wouldn't listen.

>>46046098
We're talking about Selen Tatsuki though?

west coast best coast!

>>46046117
Given what even people who never put together any big kinds of events have said, it seems blisteringly clear that EN management was scamming them.

>>46046105
She would be 200k richer instead of broke. Or are you implying her revenue would've increased?
>>46046116
...
She... likes to support artists? No fucking idea.

>>46046117
imagine thinking they actually spoke with anyone enough to warn them on anything

>>46046124
Unless she commissioned a hundred pictures a month for the entire year, she wouldn't have accrued that amount just from art. The only thing left would be her official MV's but that's something that they should have at least given some kind of kickback for, given its using their IP, but I guess not?

>>46046124
What is the point of a company if not financial managerial and other kinds of support?

The only thing I got so far is that she is a retard that blew too much money on personal projects, and I think the EOPs are under the impression that Nijisanji were the ones paying for those? This is nowhere good enough to be Tama tier.

>>46046139
Sucking money from innocents like it's upd8

>>46046139
Helping them reach wide audience they would never reach otherwise?

Personally I don't give a shit.

>>46046135
Even just covers alone run you just thousands so it can't be that either, assuming 100% of it came from her pockets.

>>46046150
Since when did Nijisanji market itself as a company that purely and exclusively advertises people?

>>46046139
Nah, I would really like to see the receipts for all this. It's too fucking weird, you don't just blow 200k into the void, You shouldn't expect anyone, person or company to do that unless they're rich, bored, and willing to waste money.

>>46046165
I can't tell if this is AI or not.

>>46046162
It makes a degree of sense if you assume she paid for the EA sponsorship herself.

Remember what she said about them following her by the way?

>>46046180
>if you assume she paid for the EA sponsorship herself.
After all the shit that's happened I habeeb it.

>>46046139
There is providing sensible financial support and there is Kojimbo tier pissing too much money over a vanity project. Selen is the later. Nijisanji is Jewish but judging from Dokibird statements, Selen is also a retard.

>>46046180
>paid for the sponsorship
truly a woman

>>46046139
in the first place no fucking company pay for projects of other people, they only pay for the projects they plan, this applies to every fucking V company that I know of.

>>46046199
>in the first place no fucking company pay for projects of other people
Are you retarded?

>>46046199
Even Nanashit pays for big events, stop lying.

>>46046176
the way snow was scraped off the ground looks too realistic to me but it's not like I'm well versed in AI shit

>>46046199
What kind of projects specifically are you talking about? That completely changes the argument.

>>46046055
They're not going to use it. Vgen would be better for them.

>>46046208
>>46046211
are you? she blew all that money in a music video, everyone fucking pays that shit from their own pocket.

>>46046211
>Even Nanashit pays for big events, stop lying.
Nanashit cannot even properly set up an event. That's why Patora left.

>>46046222
15k for a music video makes a small degree of sense when it has dozens of pieces + the extra money from western commissions being the way they are + mixing to try and save that god awful singing.

>>46046229
Different anon but while that's true that doesn't change the fact he's done it for plenty of people over the years. Just because he's a total failure and deserves the axe doesn't change that fact.

Ibrahim paid for his animation project himself but they provided him with a way to recover the costs via the genga/production process book.

I guess what anycolor can do is that if a personal project runs into issues that sink it they can provide some sort of insurance to recover costs. I can see this being abused though.

Burgers are delicious.

>>46046229
Yeah, but he still paid for other things even though he fucked her over so hard she decided to just buy herself out.

>>46046242
There's also whatever the hell went on with Dola's original song that got re-released three times.

>>46046222
not if they're directly sponsored by the company, or do you think chronoir/nornis are paying for theirs? that's the whole point of that anon saying they usually pay for their projects. also we know how things go when they interfere, compare NJU one and two to the third edition, it's funny rindou quit after that even though she probably made more money out of it than the other two combined

>>46046214
the only "projects" selen did that she could've waste so much money are music videos, stream assets and overlay.

>>46046242
Yeah when jp members invest big into a personal project they make sure they have a way to get returns. Sukoya had the aftertalks for katashiro in mengen, for example.

>>46046242
The biggest thing is they never got a chance to recoup the cost, yeah.

Don't believe his lies.

Sounds like she's wrapping up and we're getting that announcement.

500k in a year? She'll hit that this month.

>>46046261
I'll be honest, I'm not really sure what she could have spent that money on by looking at the obvious and scrolling through the wiki, nor am I willing to believe she paid for the EA stuff on her own because it simply cannot be that bad, but I'm not going to just believe she flushed it all down the toilet given the many things EN's been showing us about their management. So basically just an emotional response if you wanna call me a faggot.

Looking through some stuff here, one of her projects was that huge VR world she used for two or three collabs and opened to the public after. How do you even monetize that?

>>46046259
can you not read or what? nornis is an official unit produced by enikara, so the costs are on them. chronoir wasn't an official unit till 2022, till then, all the songs, covers and videos were banked by kanae and kuzuha, the fucking chronoir channel used to be kanae's own sub channel that he gave up because he wanted to have an unit channel.
inuio talked multiple times about how they pay for everyhting in the sepiast channel, because it's not official.

>>46046327
>inuio
Who?

modded minecraft is all I needed to hear subbed

>>46046327
my bad, I wasn't clear. when I said:
>they usually pay for their projects
anycolor pays for the projects they chose to promote. I was agreeing with you.

>>46046332
Permissions are truly the most annoying thing in the world...

>>46046331
my dog wife.

>>46046325
>and opened to the public after.
Which got closed because Nijisanji didn't want to pay for upkeep. On a game where you don't need to do that.

Someone here posted a discord screenshot showing some post from a supposed artist who worked with the ENs, and though I only skimmed over it, I think it said something about them often going out of their way to not get management involved because their rates are shit or whatever.
Not that I think their involvement would've made things better, but if that's true, expecting their financial assistance is absurd, and going "boohoo muh $200K woe is me" without this context is just vile.

I've never heard a vtuber be this autistic about Neopets, it's cute.

>>46046354
I've never once seen this screenshot before, but if the company is going to undercut what people are asking for so low that people are going to outright try and avoid them... that's still a Nijisanji issue?

>>46046354
artists are greedy and we need AI to replace them

Go away warriors cats.

>>46046354
We already know they're cheap enough to turn away potential collaborators though?

>>46046352
Does it matter? It's a money sinkhole and now I can see how she wasted 200k in a year without signficant returns. It's nice she thinks of her fans and all but she treated some things like she was working for charity.

>>46046377
The VR world was made before last year. And even then, can you find a single reason for them to take down the world after a limited amount of time when it costs noting, and putting it back up for another limited time before taking it down again?

>>46046366
i mean, i watched her mv, but it looks like garbage, given how expensive it was, you'd think it'd be something on par with holo's marine MV.

>>46046366
Thus,
>Not that I think their involvement would've made things better
But still, it's not like she was forced to do these projects, so it remains true that paying stupid amounts of money was self-inflicted.

>>46046391
I guess I can agree then but I'm also just as confused as you or anyone else on how she could not break even on a 200k revenue. Unless the 3d models she got all put her down by 30k each? That's also another issue stemming directly from Nijisanji but I digress.

Also I've still never seen that screenshot which is an important detail I almost forgot about and is probably a tell you're from somewhere else.

>>46046413
All that is still peanuts to them and I'm surprised there's any anons here going "because it's the norm it shouldn't be pressured to change". Have a limit in supporting people so they don't waste it all, but Anykara makes billions and we've heard similar complaints for years.

i completely zoned out, why the fuck is she talking about twilight

>>46046413
If your idea of "somewhere else" is the thread right before this one, then sure.
>>46025511

Her friend brought it up or something.

>>46046436
>>46046436
pick someone from JP who has a similar audience numbers, they aren't this megalomaniac. let's see how her new manager holds

>>46046436
There's a certain degree of things that just simply can't be avoided like permissions is the biggest one due to japanese copyright autism. But I agree we're years past the point of falling upwards, so to speak, and more people should be getting more chances.

>>46046436
The only person that has ever complained publicly about enikara being stingy with money was fucking Hajiki.

>>46046458
and dola
and rion
and kazaki
and chitose
and onimama
and

>>46046440
her friend in holo took care of her during the thing and they watched twilight together

>>46046458
You should probably read my post again.

>>46046474
I know all the situations that you are talking, and none of them apply here.

>>46046444
If you're going to take a post from an artist that nobody can confirm from the shithole then that's on you. At least grab something like
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600198637236445
where we have a direct line to the project and company and how they failed to pay for months, along with getting names wrong in terms of NDA's repeatedly, before Selen had to do it herself.

だでよまだ？

>>46046455
>permissions
Funny, since even when they have them they say they don't.

>>46046498
I still don't get why they have to throw selen under the bus in the termination statement. The only time doing that made sense was during meiro's termination because they have to protect Roa.

>>46046354
it was in the last thread.

>>46046497
really the fact that it happened multiple times explains everything
proof nijisanji agreed to pay for some things, proof they didn't, prood they were incompetent, proof selen had to do it themselves, and proof anons get retarded when they hear EN names and automatically assume it's their fault

>>46046509
I still don't get why she was the one to get a fucking page in the IR news. Pomu would have made more sense as her branches leader but Selen?

She played Palworld. She also can now insult Pokemon.

So the palworld fanfic was real then?

Palworld is such a shit game. It's just collecting shitty items to craft equipment to get stronger. That game play loop has existed in thousands of games and they've all sucked.

>>46046534
I'm still shocked it happened in the first place...

>>46046556
she agrees with you then

One thing I learned from this is that people with similar numbers to her are probably making ~200k a year. Good for Toru and Mya.

>>46046573
The first rule of Youtube is similar numbers does not equal similar revenue.

>>46046573
CPM's are different for everyone. But 125k-250k seems reasonable.

>>46046573
The range can vastly vary, I wouldn't be shocked if Mya alone got what they both did.

>>46046582
I prefer this alt.

>>46046573
Even idios girls has their gachi fangirls that litter a whole room with their merch. Sophia and toru (very recently) was able to move to bigger living spaces as well, so I'm not worried about them.

>>46046624
They should spend 200000 USD in "projects" instead. That's a good use of money.

>>46046648
They spend it on condoms with me.

Surprised nobody brought up she had her own Puchisanji which is probably where at least a quarter of that money went since westerners.

https://twitter.com/pixiv_en/status/1755396270078718124

>>46046673
What

>>46046708
since westerners, everyone knows.

>>46046673
There's also her costumes, her multiple 3D models since she never got hers, paying out of pocket for things they didn't which sets a precedent, stream assets, god knows whatever other things in the work that never got finished either before or after her termination, her own autism with commissioning art, and (potentially since I didn't hear her exact words) living costs, all combined with
>since westerners.
Doesn't really take a genius to see it kinda makes sense with the inflated prices from that.

>>46046711
Because they have god awful commission prices. I can get a 50 dollar full color skeb with better quality than a 200 dollar twitards lineart.

>>46046711
You've been on the internet for long enough, you know the likes of porn and furfag artists ask for hundreds for fucking sketches sometimes.

>>46046719
I don't think rent and foods included in that but the never before seen projects and costumes thing isn't something I considered at least.

>>46046730
>50 dollar full color skeb
Even that's a scam. Never pay more than 45 bucks and 95 cents for video gamesart.

statement time

Hope this makes it burn to the ground.

Lawyered up, smarter than most.

I missed some of what she said, but did Nijisanji not believe her being in the hospital after seeing medical documents and the like or something?

>>46046848
No, they knew about it and spread it against her wishes. Yet another lie for the list.

>>46046859
A part of me is thinking I'll need to rewatch that part but the other part of it is just tired of this situation entirely.
Either way that ED is cute.

So basically the 200k is partially her fault for spending too much on artsy fartsy stuff and partially the companys fault for not covering things they said they would? Who am I supposed to blame now?

>>46046924
If you're smart you'll blame hoglen.

>>46046924
Selen is an EN vtuber but NijiEN is a company that makes EN vtubers, so the scales weigh against them.

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