/jp/ - Otaku Culture

the future is now, old man
there will be a new path

*walks in butt ass naked*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgjwjaBJ5Do#t=159

I PRESENT TO YOU MY MAGNUM OPUS. this is final score, it won't change the formula any longer. no, it's not up for debate.

the lower the number the BETTER LEARNING MATERIAL the vn is. it's not difficulty/quality/fun/etc... it's how good it is for learning japanese

woah shiny days is kinda weird. you start raping katsura and she fights you off then tells you it's ok if you do it more gently

>>46026772
even the japs tower over him
love it

>>46026772
imagine a buff ass japanese dude just casually walking by and then shoves matt into a trashcan lmao

>rance is best for learning japanese
>majority of the time is spent in strategy game
umm...
sweetie...

>>46026794
bro... it's the reverse....

>>46026774
hanahiraっ reading stream when?

makoto kun we're connected

>>46026806

crazy elaborate troll
dudes more powerful than the ice troll on high hrothgar

fumufumu
yup this sure looks like the best way to nihongo jouzu
im seeing about twenty words scattered around the scene and all unrelated to each other

>>46026832
>the lower the number

nvm i don't like it anymore, back to the kitchen

>>46026832
u cant even read english bro

perfection.

i have read/started reading the first 6 and imo this is true.

マンコ=入口

>>46026913
also this is assuming you need to see a word 6 times to remember it + 1 to acquire. if not stuff changes a little

wanna eat ogs perfect iriguti

>>46026931
>this is assuming you need to see a word 6 times to remember it

oh good, so every word shows up 6 times in each of these right?

how do you tell apart katakana ロ and kanji 口

>>46026931
test it with outside material

what number would a one-word novel get?
a million-word novel?
a newspaper article?
a japanese meme?

>>46026950
the feet

>>46026950
box :|
box, japan >:口

>>46026913
>>46026931
and this is with 5 lookups + 1 to acquire. the order is the same since they are all far apart, this means the system is very robust (and costumizable for individual needs)

>>46026943
on average yes

>>46026952
if you give me the 3 stats for each i'll do that

>>46026970
>on average yes
lol... so words like する will show up hundreds of times and the actual hard words will show up once, got it thx

>>46026954
why does he look like that

>>46026974
uhm yes? suru is useful while teguchi appears once every 10 hours

teguchi? modus operandi? wtf what kind of vns are you reading

>>46026970
is this document accessible anywhere / do you plan to make it accessible

>>46026992
n5 word

>>46027010
that is the whole document lmfao, lil bro manually just picked out a handful of random vns

>>46027022
amazing wow so cool fantastic the only visual novels i have read are from brazil

also i guess i'll stick to 5+1 since it's the closest to the original srs and because the redditor said 6-7

>>46027022
>>46027010
yes but i have to scrape jpdb. i can even make the list bigger that the anacreon's one because that one is missing a lot of new stuff

>>46027010
i plan to make your bowels accessible to my toes

>>46027047
that must feel terrible for the toes

i will manually do the top portion of anacreon's list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRf53CS6ts8

>>46027042
>i guess i'll stick to 5+1 since it's the closest to the original srs and because the redditor said 6-7

>>46027074
your input is very valuable

do you like cycling with your wife

>>46026781
>I PRESENT TO YOU MY MAGNUM OPUS. this is final score, it won't change the formula any longer. no, it's not up for debate.

>[Deleted]

>>46027130
i've tweaked it one last time, this is the final one

>best vn to start learning japanese is fushigi densha
i think my formula works sisters...

お金が増えれば増えるほど、多くの問題が見えてくるような気がする

>>46026781
>>46027156

>i will manually do the top portion of anacreon's list

>i think my formula works sisters...

>>46027161
あなたはD-D-YのAに対するDですか？

>>46027187
>he can't read this
>he copes
sad

cant beleive that guy spent an entire day on a spreadsheet

>>46027195
はい

one of the best self owns djt has seen

>>46027202
you haven't seen top 500 anime one, llmao

>>46027201
i like this image however and i can read all of it crazy shit

>>46027217
good, because that's the best vn for learning japanese

>【私】
>俺
da fuq

>>46027226
well so im convinced

>>46027227
it's schizokino, watashi and ore are different people

i think what need to do in order to solve this vn issue is to kidnap children
>so we can test the table with their experience?
table?

excellent work anon, you found an easy vn by taking the top 25 easiest vns on anacreons list and shuffling them around

>>46027267
hanahira is like 20% harder, and the stuff above/below even more.

also my metric isn't EASY, it's BEST FOR VOCAB ACQUISITION

>>46027283
then why did you only take the top 25 easiest

>>46027304
because i'm filling the excel manually now. will to the top 120 or something and fill the rest tomorrow

have you also conquered the pokemon games in Jap?

imagine japanese people arguing over which the easiest english-language vns, cartoons or movies are.
>spongebob is way harder than winnie the pooh! spongebob has more complex grammar and longer sentences!

analclowns "formula" is bs he came up with until the list looked like something that would please discorders
>>46026970
lookups are not independent of difficulty and difficulty up to intermediate level is just sentence length before it diverges into other forms

>>46027311
nice screencap retard

feel bad for anacreon he puts a lot of time for the community and u all treat him like shit
japanese makes people so toxic

>>46027325
>difficulty up to intermediate level is just sentence length

ok cool so we can just use sentence length until intermediate level. but wait, how do we know where intermediate level is? well we can sort the vns by difficulty. how do we sort by difficulty? so we can just use sentence length until intermediate level. but wait...

>>46027325
>lookups are not independent of difficulty and difficulty up to intermediate level is just sentence length before it diverges into other forms
average

>>46027340
honestly this whole discussion is so ridiculous i think im going to close this thread now and not look at it again for at least 24 hours

>>46027332
self own

ive not read most of the posts but its crazy its still going

>>46027340
also when he makes autistic lists like that he just posts it on his site when he is done instead of spamming the thread while developing it

>>46027332
turn on ur monitor

btw i think that guys playing hentai pokemon which is fucked up

>>46027380
worse, i think its loli pokemon

someone alert the pokemon company this is a much bigger problem than palworld

ok axanael is actually better

>ok axanael is actually better

yosh

>>46027406
jamal on the left, me on the right, stat guy mid

me watching out of frame

>>46027351
difficulty is what is being modeled you moron lol
maybe stick to taking it up the ass instead of posting your retarded lists when you dont even understand the objective

>>46027406
what is this version of pokemon called? asking for a friend

>>46027424
uhm, actually not really. the metric is a little different since it penalizes vns that are too short

>>46027404
looking at this imagining him saying yoooooshhhh

it happened again. i was unaware that there was a new thread and got left behind. it was so peaceful there. pure bliss

>>46027426
joshimon

>>46027424
>difficulty is what is being modeled
yes but you're saying the model changes depending on the output of the very thing the model is measuring

what is a recursive function :skull:

>>46027445
yosh thank you. just in case youre a glowy i wont look this up from my home ip, i'll look it up at work tomorrow

dudes gonna be at work tomorrow dreaming of jacking off to pixelated pokegirls lmao

>>46027461
how the fuck are you supposed to know where intermediate is?

when you just use sentence length it puts hanahira next to crosschannel.

use that fucking useless data to figure out where "intermediate"

Mr. Smith san :S

your day of the word is
愛情剥奪症候群

>>46027437
how?
>>46027451
no

>>46027504
the vn is better for learning if the sentence is shorter and if words repeat enough times to acquire them (i assumed 6). if it's less then it's worse because you will hover/lookup without using them enough to remember, but if it's more than you "waste"time reading and not learning. frequency distribution of individual words still apply

*holding back tears* futongafutonda

>>46027487
because cross channel has more kanji and the sentences with the same characters are "longer" which is obvious to anyone
you know this has been treated in research where they look at language information density dno why you have to pretend to be retarded to score points for your shit list

>>46027550
i am talking about difficulty because that is what anacreon originally sought to rank
>>46025640

>>46027320
i think about this quite a lot

>>46027340
he bullied nuke doe

>>46027562
*same character lengths, in case you use this to pretend to be retarded again

havent immersed in a week
how fucked am i?

started japanese for kamige and now im addicted to shitty reality shows and youtube
not sure if over or if we're just getting started

>>46027585

amazing how the simple concept of sentence length in a consistent unit is too hard for him to wrap his head around

daily reminder that high quality anon lost

>>46027615
>come on. bring it in. gimme a hug!

>>46027602
if you have only 1 immersion session a day you gotta split it up into 2 a day, less chance of doing nothing

>>46027625
lmfao

when he says "immersion session" that means jacking off, right?

bro, i'm not immersing i'm drowning

>>46027615
lmfao

did Japan take school swimsuits too far?

or were they always an erotic item?

immersion

you won't believe what i just cooked

>>46027226
what is it

>二階から目薬
my new favorite ことわざ

lol japs cant even eyedrops from the second floor

I'm trying to learn by translating berserk.
On page two there's two kanji 烙印 that are very far apart. These are chapter names. The first one is "black swordsman."
I'm assuming the second one is the brand of sacrifice, but why is there a big ass space between them?
Also, what's the best way to type kana on my android phone?

long time since i saw that
forgot it even existed

i can save her
https://youtu.be/Rx30JmG-tV4

>>46027706
translating will literally make your japanese worse. Think of all the shit translations that make you want to learn japanese in the first place. How do you think the translators got so shit?

savior complex
no thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXT9teAXh_M
japs should have a tiny bit of thickness to them

i can safely say as a white man my soulmate is not some bugeyed lady

>>46027715
stop posting english videos. just because you only like the idea of learning japanese and not actually immersing and learning it doesn't mean you should try to drag us all down with you

>>46027729
theres some listening practice in there too

妹が毎日大声でオナってるせいで寝不足なので快感遅延薬を盛ってやった

what about halfus that look more white than asian
seen a few tiktok whores like that and my dick goes diamonds every time

>>46027606
what are you watching bro

>>46027747
i'm not a degenerate who gets hard to tiktok whores, you can have em bro

>>46027748
terrace house and hiroyuki livestreams mostly

>>46027770
OH NO NO NO

ok but like
how tf do you find a hikki lmao

>>46027742
junnybyowww.... junnybyow? jewneybyooo

>>46027774
tbf i need more free time to return to vinnies
if i dont have the whole day open i cant be bothered and im busy working for like the next month or two

>>46027779
idk how to find a japanese one but i found a white one on r9k and she killed my soul

>>46027718
I'm sorry, I don't follow your logic. Maybe we're getting hung up on the verb. I'm using it to learn kanji? Whatever. I looked up the name of the second chapter. It's "the brand" in English.
Yes, this is an ass backward way of going about it, but I'm not a student so I can do it any way I want.

>>46027794
storytime go
show them the truth of the world

why were you on r9k
also story plz

impossible for white girls to be hikki

there is no kamige only dogshit for autistic manchildren

there are fat white stinky unwashed bitches right now sitting at their computer half naked with dirty clothes all over the place

>>46027803
not true i know one irl
last time she went outside was like 2-3 months ago i think and she would turn up for everything like 2 hours late

>>46027801
basically she made a tulpa of her ex boyfriend and was obsessed with him and made me feel like a cuck but she was really hot and i didn't have any options so i put up with it for six months but now i've sworn off real woman and only engage with anime waifus and my soul is healing

>impossible for white girls to be hikki
>>>/vt/

why are you linking to a baord that proves my point?

Thinking of streaming wolf girl vn then steins;gate, would anyone watch it? Would Kick be good?

how do you get an ajatt girlfriend like you can have emersion on while ur fucking and only moan shit like 凄い

why would i watch a learner attempt to read a vn?

>>46027849
yeah id get a kick out of it

>>46027825
dayum son

>>46027849
we would all watch it we are here all day

white girls just dont have the katamari damacy to be true hikki

>>46027849
when

yup, fushigi densha confirmed being the optimal point for getting vinnypilled. it should be added before hanahira

beware spreadshitters and people who use words like "optimal"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztaaJTfo_wQ#t=70

>>46027879
04:00 AM UTC

>>46027881
path isn’t an easy to hard list, so no

>>46027891
unironically sounds like cope. numbers don't lie

i've been learning for 2.5 years but never read out loud or had a conversation do you guys want to see me read

final fantasy 1 on the famicom

>>46027914
this but dq1 on super famicom

video games suck

>>46027911
do it rn

more people should read childrens books

troll was funny last thread now hes just annoying and way coming off way too strong

there will probably be some streamables made but if you arent an annoying lolcow fag like gambs or qm it will be a good time

>>46027928
my parents are still awake and i don't want them to know that i'm learning japanese so sorry have to wait

>>46027957
until when
i only got a few more hrs got some gay meeting tomorrow that i have to be at

what are you guys eating during immersion

>>46028001
dude didnt even cook his rice and to top it off he shat in the fucking bowl
not even guy fieri can save that

>>46028001
what is this slop

>>46028001
i actually started eating better and meal prepping cuz i kept getting annoyed pausing my emersion to cook
usually just have bodybuilder shit like rice chicken and veggies and sometimes i make big salads and eat it over a few days
also wtf is that

>>46028010
>>46028014
>>46028019
it's good my step mom makes it it's some bean thing i don't really know

your step mom is literally feeding u her shit

its not shit

>>46027933
true

cut out the kiwifarms shit faggot u got isuses

tripfags talking about kiwifarm shit
lmao

nothing wrong wtih having a username on a messageboard lol

I spent the entire morning talking to a japanese 18 yo girl and she spent all the conversation yapping about JJK

>>46028001
gohandesuyo?

>nothing wrong wtih having a username on a messageboard lol

why would you talk to a female

lmfao

I spent the entire morning talking to an english 18 yo guy and he spent all the conversation yapping about JK

>>46028020
ask her the recipe then post it

why would you talk to a male

i talk to all the 'oids

free yourself of the notion that physical attributes determine if someone is worthy of conversation

all humans are equally garbage

>>46028044
>128x128
rofl

>>46028141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqK1FrO3BdM

>>46028141
women have more value if you arent gay

>>46027800
Don't listen to him. Those who can't translate don't know Japanese. The problems you see in fan translations all stem from people not knowing Japanese, not knowing English, and/or having ulterior motives.

>>46028079
wimin sukii

daisuki

>>46028001
looks like some rice in basedsauce

only went skiing once and i sucked
never again

>>46028163
bro gonna die of too much sodium

>>46028153
sasooke sukii

daisuki

>>46028167
skii sukii

daiskiisuki

dang u guys made me think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFlvngWRYFk

>>46028141
>all humans are equally garbage
observably untrue, cope harder

crazy how even with all the sports anime there isnt a single one about skiing
like shit did the japs forget they have their own alps

i dont think the average bug goes skiing
thats crazy though there actually isnt one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mszKemOVKyg
yosh this is why im jap

>>46028246
would love it if japan was nuked a third time while ppl were making dumb ass vids like that

>>46028246
would have sex with if she's willing to put a bag over her head

dunno bro theres lots of jap skiing vids and they all get a ton of views

>>46028262
i mean think about it this way
the keijo anime exists but not one single anime about skiing
thats fucken bonklers dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DndcwXfut4

i guess because u have to be too clothed when skiing and so that probably hurts its value

just realized jason sounds like gei-san

watch keijo!!!!!!!!

u cant even do a panty shot for skiing so yeah wow thats crazy japan is fucked up

i already watched it doe

i never watched that stupid butt anime but i know someone who did and it diminished my opinion on them greatly

>>46026931
>you need to see a word 6 times to remember it
Assigning arbitrary numbers to matters of subjective learning and individual variation is utterly retarded.

>>46027340
rolling in his grave rn like gorogorogoro

Once you begin to understand it without subtitles, it's time to move on from anime and on to grown up material.

>Assigning arbitrary numbers to matters of subjective learning and individual variation is utterly retarded.

>>46027340
cant possibly feel bad for a lolcow like that
gotta milk him for every drop rofl

>>46028306
don’t forget he has no idea how many times each word actually shows up, he is assuming they all show up in equal amounts which is about as far from the truth as possible

i never checked out anal guys list but did he try to assign numeric ratings to vns or was it just a ranking

>>46028338
https://anacreondjt.gitlab.io/docs/easiest_to_hardest_japanese_novels/#visual-novels

God I want to sinitai imasugu

>>46028344
im not clicking that link tell me here

yeah starting to think spreadsheet guy knows jack shit

hes 135 iq thats good enough

had enough of these flashtards spreadshitting all over the thread

Japanse grammar learning anon here

I added a hint button that tells you which grammar lesson a given sentence is from.

I encourage you to go hintless for the full release !

>>46028491
I don't get it. Are you just trying to test their E-J translational skills?

this new batch of lolcows isnt as fun as the old days
there once was a time i could rofl at og jamal 4bro jizzler eiffel tower analcream and a few others all in the same thread

only jamal was funny tho

true but the rest were just rofl

>eiffel tower
did he ever share the spreadsheet

>>46028533
no you weren't

just wait for the dust to settle...

dunno but not like soaplands are hard to find
dont really understand why he was making it

dont care gambs and nuke are way funnier than all your oldfart shit

flash cards don't work amiright my fellow namefags guys? XD

>>46028513
>I don't get it. Are you just trying to test their E-J translational skills?

I'm testing grammar. No listening comprehension, no grammar, just raw grammar.

I'm going off Genki 1 and Genki 2 for the main storyline, and want to incorporate the DoJG for postgame content..

My intent is to someday be able to take someone from beginner to N1.

>My intent is to someday be able to take someone from beginner to N1.
oh dear

>no grammar, just raw grammar
alright this deserves a rofl

dropping a lol

>>46028566
>no grammar

meant to say no vocabulary.

teabagging on jasmall faces*

this cant not be bait

just as that guy said he wants funnier lolcows, another one shows up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

>>46028491
I hope there is sexxxxxx


>>46028570
Rofl

why no vocabulary

just raw vocabulary

>>46028617
you can just feel vocabulary out but you have to study grammar

raw dog

you can be fluent in a language while knowing only 50 words according to that bald linux guy

there was no ga… there was no no…

>>46028631
sounds cool anon i'll play it when its done

fear not the guy who knows a thousand words but the guy who can use one word in a thousand ways

I’m going to make an online gacha game with sexy waifus, but the only way to roll is by doing your reps

>>33177391
now this is the power of a true lolcow

>>46028568
game with 3000 hours of gameplay

nobody remembers that guy but you get a life dude

bro that dude made a fucking spreadsheet

i miss eiffel tower bro shame he never completed his dreams

who

>>46028658
dame the real analcream posted his list in that thread. i had no idea it was that old

is it dumb to machine translate sentences with words or grammar i don't know after trying to feel it out/lookups?

ask chatgpt

>>46028749
basic process for approaching a sentence is look up all the words you don't know (have a quick second think about what they might mean first though or what their reading might be based on the kanji before rushing into yomichan) => if you still can't understand the sentence look up any grammar you're not sure of => if it doesn't click straight away think about it for a little while and if you still can't figure it out then move on.

never asked an ai never will

got an ai to write part of a uni assessment for me

why does japanese porn focus on male nipples so much

トマト 食べる？

no i don't really like them

tama ni

>>46028897
やだ

ハンバーガーを注文の度にトマトを摘んで捨てるよ

>part of an assessment
you can get it to do most things with a good model apart from complex up to date references

>>46028946
なん！！ 私も又 。。。

>>46028879
most japs are bisexual because the men and women hardly look any different.
same thing with the incest problem, your sister hardly looks any different than your crush at school etc

dont understand how twitter works and why japs love it so much

>>46028989
your iq is much like the end of your post number

sexoooooooo

>>46029004
over 8000

cant believe we got a 989iq here

twitter is awesome for snippets of immersion i follow random japanese mushroom posting accounts and learn new words all the time

wish i was dumb enough to enjoy twitter

why would you need to know names of mushrooms
unless you really like mushrooms in english too idk

>>46029063
why do you need to know anything? if learning about mushrooms is fun, learning about mushrooms in japanese is fun but also double the learning

i only like women in japanese

it is like this so cool new words free japanese awesome wow

true true

free japanese implies the existence of paid japanese
oh wait

refolded 1000 times

effortlessly acquired ケント紙

katakana paper?

mfw

>>46029076
badger

badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers

>>46029095
why do you have a name? what is your jp level?
>>46029093
why do you have a trip? what is your jp level?

>>46028749
Machine translation has come a long way since the days of google translate. I’d say it’s more accurate than most fan translators, and its understanding of grammar is solid.
People like >>46028799 are gonna tell you to never use one and to just skip over what you don’t know, but that’s because this is DJT, and everyone here is retarded.

im level 1 at jp

n1

>>46029123
https://vocaroo.com/

>>46029123
i'm asking because i can lookup words and grammar and understand the sentence, but not know how to... idk put it together? really long sentences or run on sentences make that hard, so i translate it to see how it would be put together

in that case it is retarded to machine translate

>>46029146
Not being able to put a sentence together means you’re either misunderstanding how to apply a piece of grammar, or you have a wrong sense of the words. Either way, DeepL’s very good at showing you how you should think about it, and it’ll give you some tricks for how to interpret certain words and phrases (e.g. thinking “when” when you see 時 at the end of a clause)

i think chatgpt does a better job at that

dont care about ai

レベル1 日本語生徒
経験値　0/9999999
IQ 140
彼女数 0

彼氏数 ∞

彼氏数 -1

>>46029118
who are u?

>>46029165
You realize people here are so bad at grammar that machines end up being more right than them? People were actually arguing whether the phrase ちょっと漏らした was referring to “someone’s trauma leaking out”
>>46029178
Sometimes. It’s a little hit-or-miss. I think DeepL is more consistent in its interpretations and knows a few more grammatical patterns than gpt, but gpt can use context and the things you tell it to be more accurate in certain circumstances.

>>46029206
those ppl were just baiting and the ai didnt get the bit which btfod (almost) everyone else

>>46029202
the guy that corrected your と

nobody that's even half decent would have the need to know about the quality of deepl or gpt translations so you can fuck off with your smug bullshit back to wherever you came from

>>46029213
wasnt a correction was more of a slide along since it wasnt incorrect

>>46029212
To be fair, AI or any machine translator can't actually handle puns that obscure.
>>46029215
>nobody that's even half decent would have the need to know about the quality of deepl or gpt translations
Yeah, and how would someone who's less than half-decent be able to know about the quality of deepl or gpt? Retard
>inb4 stop signing your posts

wow this thread fuckin sucks

>>46029248
You're welcome to leave.

yo j hop on cs 2 dawg

>Yeah, and how would someone who's less than half-decent be able to know about the quality of deepl or gpt? Retard
this isnt the gotcha moment that you think it is

>>46029268
Nah, I'm pretty sure it is lol

we can see your childhood trauma leaking out

>>46029278
>>46029242
nta but machines are often wrong so you shouodnt learn from them, especially if youre new and cant really tell when it breaks

>>46029288
>machines are often wrong
Other than it not being able to guess the right pronoun, no, it's normally not wrong. I can tell you haven't tested them much.

sounds like gambs is posting

no, you're on the wrong fucking website
i dont know how good you are, and you dont know how good i am
bottom line is that you came into djt and advocated for deepl and gpt shit, anyone that knows japanese would not give a single fuck about anything like this nor would they advocate for it, in order to have new learners not create shitty habits of "checking" when they're right in their native rather than letting the japanese ability build on top of itself
you're either someone interested in ai and translation theory, or on the peak of mount stupid misleading people that don't know any better
i dont care which it is, but i do care that you fuck off with your smug bullshit

>>46029303
How? Gambs is a retard that despises any machine assistance. Didn't you see him clacking on his keyboard any time he didn't know a word? The man doesn't even believe in texthookers.
>>46029304
>in order to have new learners not create shitty habits of "checking" when they're right in their native rather than letting the japanese ability build on top of itself
What is this even supposed to mean? "Letting the Japanese ability build on top of itself"? Do you even understand how retarded you sound?

>>46029303
gambs is too busy having sex, doing cutting edge ai research and studying for kanken 1 to post on djt

holy crap new words on every page i gotta learn more first !!

>>46029294
>it's normally not wrong.
its wrong often enough, bout 10%, that it shouldnt be a teaching aid.

>>46029354
>its wrong often enough, bout 10%
>source: my ass

>>46029361

kino

放す ロッキー メス犬

>>46029368
this is sovlful slopkino, much better than "accurate" mtl

>>46029361
>>46029368

>>46029368
You really are retarded.

ok lets break it down like your ai would you semen slurping idiot
>Letting the Japanese ability build on top of itself"?
japanese should breed more japanese. i dont know whats hard to get here
if you check in your native if you got a sentence "correct" your understanding stays in english and you're going to start doing it with every little bit you feel like you don't get. its like hovertarding on steroids
if you misunderstand a sentence, either context will clear it up or it wont matter because its beyond your level anyway and will make sense eventually provided you keep immersing
this is literally immersion 101, i dont know why i am bothering with this shit but i think that seeing someone with properly formatted posts despite containing nothing of substance, an air of smugness, all while calling other people retarded reminds me of my days on other 4chan boards
seriously, from the bottom of my heart, fuck off

>>46029389

>>46029394

>>46029391
just to add: i think ai and translation is really cool shit, i really do, but it has no place in language aquisition at all in its current state

>>46029401

>>46029391
>if you check in your native if you got a sentence "correct" your understanding stays in english
lol, lmao even
I can't even tell if you're serious anymore. I mean, I know you are, but holy shit.
>>46029402
I think you're a drooling retard, personally.

>>46029414

You just have to feel out when the AI is giving you bullshit
Anyone with some level of intelligence and basic Japanese knowledge is able to do that
It's the same thing with hovering, anki, J-E dictionaries, or a million other tools of convenience. As long as it isn't a crutch, it isn't a problem.

>>46029422

>>46029424
Finally, someone with common sense.

>>46029431

>lol lmao even
>but holy shit
>cant tell if ur serious
>ur a drooling retard
lmao
you really do remind me of the people i used to argue with back in the day
>>46029424
>>46029433
samefag
also, you were literally advocating for it to be a crutch in case you forgot, lol

>>46029454

retards are expecting a translation without also passing in the full context
self own

>>46029472

>>46029433
You have to be willing to take off the training wheels though and it sounds like you don't want to.

some rear end poo poo for real. its hosed

>>46029459
>oh no, more than one person disagrees with me... IT MUST BE THE SAME PERSON
sasuga retard
>>46029480
Training wheels? What training wheels? Do you think Yomichan is a training wheel as well? It's a tool like anything else. Use it how you see fit.

>>46029474

>>46029494
>Do you think Yomichan is a training wheel as well?
Yes. Your bait is coming on too strong again

>oh no, more than one person disagrees with me... IT MUST BE THE SAME PERSON
yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiWwVjTF3iY

>>46029501
Time to pull out the paper dictionary then, gramps. Remember, the 広辞苑 dictionary on Yomichan isn't a real dictionary. It's a special fake dictionary designed for beginners.
>>46029506
lmao seethe more, retard. Today's not your day.

>>46029523
Just try to remember that AI isnt artificial intelligence, it is artificially intelligent. It doesn't know anything.

lmao this nigga is getting so mad and still has no proper refutations

>if i put the name of the dicitonary in japanese maybe then djt will finally believe me that im as good as i say i am
hahahahaha

>>46029530
Just remember you're not just retarded, you're mentally retarded.
>>46029535
Yup kek
Maybe AI killed his family. You never know.

the mtl tard invasion from v thx to asmongold has been a disaster for djt

>>46029539
>Yup kek
>Maybe AI killed his family. You never know.
Nigga i was talking about you

where do i get an ai girlfriend

japanese people are so fucking autistic. my friend says she cant talk over voice because she's living at her moms house and is too embarrassed to speak english where her mom can hear her. she was literally sitting in her car up until it got too cold when we'd talk lmao.

i'd actually prefer we just speak in japanese but i humor her cause she's a good friend and i want to help her improve english (or make her feel like shes improving since early output doesnt do much) so we basically wont talk over voice until its warm enough for her to autistically sit in her car to do it. unreal

>>46029544
こにちわ

shut da fuck up normie

Yeah guys that worship AI make me regret uppercasing but what else am I gonna do when I'm in the shitter?

gonna mtl oretuba cuz i dont get the grammar when he said shit dick in ya mouth

>"I thought 'koi' meant love, but apparently, it also means carp. Imagine my confusion at the pet store!"
>"I complimented her on her 'hikari' (light), but she thought I was talking about a fish again."
>"'Tsuki' can mean moon or month? No wonder my date looked confused when I said, 'I'll see you next tsuki.'"
>"I tried expressing my feelings with 'ai' (love), but she thought I was talking about the kanji character. Awkward!"
>""I invited him for 'hanami' (cherry blossom viewing), but he showed up with sushi. I guess I should have clarified!"
>"The 'ame' (rain) outside matched my mood, but when I said it, they thought I was just stating the weather report."
>"Learning Japanese is like mastering a subtle dance – one misstep, and you might end up discussing pineapples instead of affection."

>>46029540
>gotta move that goalpost a little further. can't let them know that i have no argument
>>46029541
You think anybody from /v/ actually comes to this dump, let alone learn Japanese?
>>46029543
>Nigga
kys

>>46029547
no japanese please i havent learned that yet

>>46029541
rent free

you post exactly like a bot that hangs out on /v/ would
believe me ive been there long enough to know

>>46029559
>ive been there long enough to know
Yeah, why don't you go back then?

>go back go back go back
more bot posting
might as well tell me to go to reddit too

>>46029555
わたしが。。。 しがない 。。。

>>46029565
Well, I didn't want to say that, but you could try going back there too.

are you tards done

stfu retard

where is jamal?
where is ciaran?
where is qm?
where is yanis?

>Well, I didn't want to say that, but you could try going back there too.

>>46029550
Please never associate with us uppergods. We pride ourselves on being better than filthy toilet phoneposters.

>>46029570
Djt is too autistic to be able to handle a rabid shitposter hellbent on posting weak bait
I'm also guilty of this weakness and will continue engaging him

>reddit meme reaction image
Yikes lmao

>>46029584
>BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT
>IT'S BAIT
>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS BAIT
lol

>>46026913
any updates?

if its not posting loli assume its a bot or otherwise

Everything I don't like is in fact bait.
Shits over, oyasumi motherfuckers

which discord are you retards from

>Yikes lmao

Lil J's a bot now?

i really hope ai poster is having as much fun as i am right now
giggling in my fucken chair like the drooling retard he says i am

>>46029602
God I love being right and see you tards seethe. Feels good :sunglasses:

love me a good 'jak

>>46029609
i look like this and say this

>which discord are you retards from

>>46029609
lmao thanks for admitting, lil bro
Yes, I'm enjoying the fruits of my labor quite nicely. I gotta be honest, I didn't expect you retards to start losing it at AI being using as a language learning tool, but it's pretty funny.

>lmao thanks for admitting, lil bro
>Yes, I'm enjoying the fruits of my labor quite nicely. I gotta be honest, I didn't expect you retards to start losing it at AI being using as a language learning tool, but it's pretty funny.

>>46029624
SEETHING

>>46029624
just take the L anon
this is embarrassing

https://vocaroo.com/16vtsFA7HX5W

>just take the L anon
>this is embarrassing

true true

im just here to learn japanese

Fun fact: Jamal actually is a big believer in machine translators. He famously used google translate to help him figure out what 万 meant in a sentence (it backfired in his face lmao)

itiman (1000) tuyoi

>>46029633
>y-you’re just a bot that’s why you disagree with me
>i-i mean you’re just samefagging yeah
>no wait! you’re from /v/ and you like asmonigger
lmfao

33
you're not funny