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I take a break for a few days and no one creates a new thread...

Well, here it is.

It's been a while since I last played. Spells feel slower to level than I remember. Have to spam a level 1 spell on 400% like 20 times before I gain a level.

Anyway, how do you guys keep track of all the feats they add? It's like they add a new feat with 3-4 themed special abilities every few months like gravity, magical plants, etc. Usually they scale with some weird stat like constitution or perception. Do people even use these and build characters around them?

>>45992503
No one is posting any Elin news so I don't see a reason to make one

Can you add new portraits to Elin right now or only replace existing ones?

GOD I FUCKING LOVE THE PUPPY CAVE
I CAN'T STOP FARMING IT
Every year I come back to Elona I restart a new character (always Elea Warmage). Then I get a few levels and start farming the puppy cave. It's just so satisfying how many things you can farm at the same time
-potions, scrolls
-spellbooks, literally infinite low level spells
-jewelry for Yacatect
-rods for Itzpalt
-Rachel's books
-Ancient books for mage guild
-starting set of tools, like crafting tools, leash, stethoscope, pot of fusion, etc

>>45996978
I like farming the puppy cave by I also hate having my shit drop there.

Reading 子供の危ない本 knocks you out and teaches you the weak point of children.

>>45996978
Is it really worth it? All I got was jack shit every time I went there, better bash my head in on a dungeon over my level than the puppy dungeon

>>45998791
It lets you gather a large amount of starting stuff quickly. A lowbie random dungeon is usually only 2-3 levels, then you need to travel and find a new one. You can run puppy cave lvl1 20+ times picking up what you need, then run to the nearby city, dump stuff into the bandit basement and repeat.
It's also by far the fastest way to get jewelry for the secret experience of yacatect, and then rods for itzpalt.

>>45997636
Porn books teach weaknesses that increase damage vs that particular mob by a tiny amount, but the effect stacks (checkable in journal). Search every vending machine for all the porn you can.

I think what excites me most about Elin is that summoner seems to be a proper playstyle now. Summons scale properly and there's a good variety from ranged little sisters, tanky undead sisters, magic wisps, disposable animals and walking bomb shades.

>>46001426
How balanced are the pets now?

>>46001683
Honestly I've had an easiert time running without them. I think Noa should add a "feed everyone" option when you go to an inn

>>46003276
I haven't even figured out how to even feed them yet since they don't seem to eat food they step on which is how I always fed them in Elona.

>>46005510
Seriously? It's never been easier. Put food in their inventories with trade and they'll eat on their own time.

Residents at home can be fed through a shared stash, fill a fridge with cooked meals and set it as shared. They'll grab stuff out of it while you're away.

>>46005510
Eating things they stepped on was a surefire way for them to eat something bad or rotten. I'm glad that shot is gone, along with well drinking.

Is Elin worth playing in its current state? Ie. does it have enough content and mostly complete features?

>>45992490
I finally caved in and gave Elin a try.
Not even 10 minutes into the game, and my shota character has already been raped by some woman he just met.

Never go birdwatching with strangers, kids.

>>46006564
Wait till you meet the succubus nuns who rape you in your sleep.

Are there still no cone shaped spells? Do I have to take fire breath even as a pure wizard?

In Elona, can I get another Exile pet if I switch to another god then back to Itzpalt? The Exile is outperforming my entire team. It even outperforms me unless I also blast everything with magic.

I'm having fun with Druid in Oomsestep_NC. Having practical summoning working is amazing

you guys got any luck with getting any new seeds in Elin? Last update said all types were added but I still can't get cherry and other exotic fruit seeds

>>45992490
This makes two threads in a row where you put the title in the wrong field.

I was looking in the OP and I couldn't find any links to graphics. I reinstalled the game, E+CGx, and I though just dumping the graphics folder of my old version would work, but sadly some graphics are broken, specially the portraits

I can see there's a "Extra sprites/PCCs" link in the OP, but that looks like a fucking nightmare for each individual sprite/character. There used to be links just to folders of already pre-modded graphics, with stuff like pic related, does anyone have them that work with this E+Custom-GX version?

>>45992490
Probably been asked before, but what's classifies as Light Armor? I can't find an answer

>>46014670
It depends on your total equipment weight, if it goes above 15 stones, it's no longer light armor

>>46014686
Oh, I thought it was only specific items were in items classes. That makes way more sense, thanks!

Is Noa planning on NPC reaction based on the PC's race yet? I always find it odd that people in elona aren't racist towards Elean players

>>46019175
Not in that specific case, given that this is a period where humans and Elea live together peacefully, but racial reactions have always been in with snails being salted.

There's no special reaction to you being Elean, but that's explained in lore by Elea born outside of Vindale being "outsiders".

People will run up to mifu, nefu, catsisters and other animal peoples to pet them.

So, it's not a matter of there being no racial reactions, but rather that he doesn't want to do that particular one.

>>46006177
Do residents need to be fed?

>>45995217
If you want to check on the updates you can find them here: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Changelog

>Still unsure on what version of the game to play, if omake or custom GX
>create a character in both
>custom GX has gender bullshit
>omake only has male or female
Yeah, I'm sure of which version is the one being developed by sane people

>>46022961
Still no idea why they added that

>>46011903
Haven't been following OOMsestep_NC. Has there been some sort of new update that added the druid archetype?
I never played around with the summoning spells too much since I always viewed it as "that trap spell" where you could end up summoning something that could and probably would kill you.

>>46023438
liar, we may not "know", but we all definitely have ideas of why the fuck they added it

I know what you mean, its difficult to think of a game where gender is more painfully fucking pointless than in elona. But you perfectly have a very good idea of why they did it

>>46023531
futas and traps were invented by Japanese
it's wholesome and not globohomo faggotry

>>46023542

>>46023473
The Druid class has a special action that costs like 40 SP and summons an Ent that scales to your Gardening level, which is always going to be high anyway. The Ent can also use Healing Rain. You can summon as many times as you like as long as you aren't tired. It's treated as a pet that does not count towards your pet limit, but disappeared when you leave the map

>>46023531
Fun fact, that screen's options used to outright state trans whatever. Not sure why it got dialed down to this.

That being said, Plus' dev is a well known pest who shoves his retarded fetishes from piss, socks and loli brocon into his fork, so.

>>46023542
you perfectly know that they didn't do it because of traps and futa fetichises >>46024338
>the piss fetish
oh fuck, you are right, I now remember that's who we are dealing with. Loli brocon is far from a bad thing tho, but yeah, this shouldn't have been new

nevertheless, I'm just going to try the omake

Does anyone know how to add more character customization options to the omake?
I tried using these that had been working in the E+custom, but they don't work in the omake

After learning that having too many pokemans can fuck up my leveling, i decided to start fresh and stick with my little girl only. Anyone know how to build her?

>>46025673
Are you playing plus or omake?

>>46028157
Plus

>>46024338
>>46024750
What does loli brocon mean?

>>46030101
It doesn't matter, then. Traveling in plus gives everyone so much experience that its the main source of xp and it doesn't matter how many pets you have because that xp is distributed per entity, per skill.

Where the fuck is this?
Read the map in South Tyris

>>46023531
Ano added them to the sex selection because he already added in selection and customization for everything else possible in character creation and those sexes had existed in the game since the mystery meat item.

>>46024338
That was a mistranslation from Custom which CGX anon fixed.

>>46021030
Residents don't need to be fed, but feeding them increases stats and makes them better at their jobs, so why not?

Any combat pet needs to be fed because like you, it won't regenerate resources if hungry.

>>46024802
Vanilla displayed everything slightly shrunk with nearest neighbor sampling, so sprite-sheets made for plus, which fixed that issue, might look wonky by default in omake. I think there is an option that fixes it somewhere though.

>>46031068
Slightly northeast of the main dungeon. You can't find it on whatever map you're checking because the treasure map isn't showing the Oblivion Palace, which looks like ordinary trees.

Any ways or mods to remove various caps from the game in Elona+?
Especially interested in Storage Slots , but also Level cap, stat/skill caps and currencies.

>>46032680
Are you willing to learn a shitty BASIC-like programming language only documented in Japanese that is pretty much only used by one single game? If so hit up the CGX github.

>>46032724
I think there are also some Touhou fangames made with HSP. I remember someone who was trying to mod or translate one of them asked for help with it here some time ago (since there aren't a whole lot of resources for HSP out there).
I've always wondered how things went for that anon. I hope they were able to succeed.

>>46032632
Oh shit thanks, I walked past that place a million times. Had no idea there was a location in those trees.

>>46032582
>feeding them increases stats makes them better at their jobs
Wait what?

>>46030953
ok so how do i build my little girl?

>>46033207
There might be actually builds for her but I just give her a big sword and get her up to heavy armor then let her step on lots of money and jewels.

>>46033207
>>46033330
What that poster said. Little girl and its evolutions have basic warrior AI, so just unga bunga will do. You can give gems directly through inventory and money through evochat, I would strongly recommend using the tamer's whip so it won't eat or pick up anything you don't want it to. Only takes one rotten corpse on the ground or your pet swiping a god gem to turn that shit off forever.

>>46030355
Nice dubs. Pretty sure it means a loli who wants to fuck her brother. Duh.

Two new gods in yesterday's build, Kizuami of Trickery and Horome of Moonshadow. Can't worship them yet, but the Japanese shrine in the fox village is now an altar proper.

>>46040628
Are those the backer gods?

>>46040868
Yes

Is it still possible to buy the key or is it over and wait for steam ea ?

>>46043450
You have to wait for steam EA

My game of Omake lags horribly in the character customization screen, does anyone know a way to fix it?

I'm about to get back into the game after a few years of not playing it, so I have a few questions:
What version is the go to at this time, and what are some of the super important items you should get if you got a wish? I remember it was something like boots of speed or something.

>>46044788
Are you using custom PCCs?

>>46045782
if you want the most recent features and most complete translation, Elona+ Custom-GX from the OP

>>46045782
>boots of speed
Seven league boots.
I also like to get some shift cores. Secret experience of Kumiromi. Maybe a Happy Bed if you get unlucky and cant get it from those cupids.

>>46045837
>>46045897
thanks friends

What is the best way so farm a certain low level enemy for a drop?
Specifically a kamikaze samurai? I want a fuckin Harakiri

I want a cool battle sprite when I use a core. Anyone got some handy?

>>46046836
I personally just change my hair style and hair colour

>>46046149
Assuming you're playing plus, running nefia about the level of your target will do. Different dungeon types have their spawns limited by race, I think humanoids are in towers.

>>46046836
>sprite
https://files.catbox.moe/oqtdp4.bmp
I use this and pretend it's a henshin sentai costume thing. Dunno how it looks with armor because I used a mirror to toggle all of that off.

>>46046982
Damn I was afraid of that. Especially sucks because most nefia I find are in the 100-180ish range with the occasional beginner one.

I wish there's a leotard or a full bodysuit PCC

Sneed
https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/src/up11478.bmp

>>46023542
Sounds like cope.

>>46045817
no
at first I though it was that, but I opened the .rar anew with only the default options and still lags

>>46047385
Well, when you do find a suitable one you can use backspace+enter to reset it so you don't need to keep on looking.

Alternatively, you could just dominate one and ranch it.

Is Elona Mobile worth playing?

Maybe? I couldn't get into it because when I'd play I'd just think to myself "I'd rather just be playing normal Elona."

>>46047385
>Especially sucks because most nefia I find are in the 100-180ish range with the occasional beginner one.
Get far enough in the story and you'll get a gewgaw that lets you adjust dungeon levels.

>>46050365
>>46050405
Pretty much. I tried it, saw their time gating, premium currency, pet gacha and other mobile game stuff, then asked what it provided that Elona didn't that would make up for this nonsense.

>>46051708
>time gating, premium currency, pet gacha and other mobile game stuff
I had no fucking clue about any of that. It all sounds utterly fucking bizarre when its based on a game thats 100% free

>>46050365
Lmao no

>>46051865
Chinks are weird like that

>>46051865
I mean, they've got to earn money somehow, so it's not surprising. It's just that there are better versions that are free.

>>46053171
Are they making their money?

>>46053171
>they've got to earn money
no, why?
Elona is fucking free, plenty of games are fucking free, nobody is forcing anyone to make any money at all with it

>>46032552
>Ano added them to the sex selection because he already added in selection and customization for everything else possible in character creation and those sexes had existed in the game since the mystery meat item.
>"It totally isn't tranny bullshit, I promise

yeah, not buying that

Does anybody have an up to date version of the monster girl character.bmp?

>>46053385
Given it's been running for more than 3 years now and there's a sequel in the making, I'd say it's been at least profitable enough to keep it going.

At this point it's a skinsuit using the Elona brand for publicity and unrecognizable from the last official version, but it's not doing anything plus or even omake isn't.

>>46055325
>sequel
why not just keep building content for the first one?

Never underestimate the stupidity of mobile gamers. They will pay for angry birds cosmetics.

>>46055325
>it's not doing anything plus or even omake isn't
>>46051708
>time gating, premium currency, pet gacha and other mobile game stuff

>When you realize you've been playing elona for a decade
What am I doing with my life.

>>46056057
Lulwy laughs, "I guess there's no use warning you. Alright. Do as you please, kitty."

>>46055487
Sorry, that was a bad way to put it, you're right. What I meant was that all the offshoots have become their own things at this point.

I got the golden knight godpet and I'll keep her for now but Iever know what Gods to worship or which pets to get. I'd feel bad just leaving her in town.

>>46061064
The easiest answer is to go for the god who matches your character archetype best. Mage? Itzpalt. Warrior? Opatos. Crafter? Kumiromi. It's not a perfect 1 to 1 most of the time, but it's a good enough guideline.

>>46061064
go for the god you want to dick

I can't sell weapons at high price in Elin.
Is there a way to sell weapons at a higher price, like owning a store in Elona?

>>46063151
raise your negotiation skill

>>46063151
The shipping box gives you as good a percentage as you could get from player stores in Elona, and you get gold bars in the bargain. The stupid markdown in Elona is because the base prices of gear are really high.

That isn't the case in Elin, equipment is much cheaper unless it's a speed ring or the like, so your sell prices are kinda low while not having any special malus.

Tldr, gear doesn't sell for the stupid amount it could in Elona, use the shipping bin.

>>46062719
I'd dick all of them

Are tractors in the game?

>>46069507
Yes, my favorite roguelike Farming Simulator 2022 has tractors indeed.

Does anyone have graphics mods for basic elona and not for Elona+?
I'm playing the omake and the stuff I used for Elona+ doesn't work

So I want to play a dual wielding build in omake, any tips?
there are so many classes to choose, and the comment in the OP about
>Learning skills is slow and expensive and you're better off not learning skills that won't be useful to your build
is quite intimidating, as I don't want to fuck up right from the start, and its really annoying that there isn't a complete guide or wiki to know all the things the "oomSESTepNC" have

man, this general is fucking shit, there's nobody here ever who wants to have any discussion. I know the Elona thread has been a long time tradition of /jp/, but if its so fucking dead that at this point then fuck everything, I can only try to start a conversation myself without getting a single reply so many times before it just becomes insulting

If anyone insists on pointlessly bumping this shitfest at least try to make the fucking effort of discussing something about the game instead of some inane bumping with a funny picutre, but I really doubt any of you give actually give a shit about Elona anymore, so whatever

>>46071530
if you want to discuss things then help a newbie out.
what does it mean when it says so and so has discovered (rare item) in a place in the log?
does it mean they now have that item in their inventory, or does it mean that item is in the location waiting to be found?

>>46071530
Got a feeling most of them are in the discord or whatever hence why the threads been so dead even when elin is still being developed.

>>46072715
I wish Hitler would come back and throw the jews that made that site into a gas chamber. Having to watch a piece of shit IRC knockoff kill the internet piece by piece year after year is the worst experience of my life.

>>46050365
The god designs were the only good things to come out of mobile

>>46072922
You and me both

>>46072989
Can you still fuck gods in mobile?

>>46072520
The adventurer has generated that item in his inventory. You can try to trade for it if you want it.

>>46073037
If it follows vanilla Elona pet and NPC mechanics, then no

>>46073130
What the hell's the point

No portrait yet.

Ability spams ~6 statuses/buffs on target depending if hostile or not.

>>46073641
How many backer gods are they planning on adding?

>>46072520
>then help a newbie out.
except I was the "newbie" kinda? I played the elona+ a lot years ago, but I'm trying the omake now and a lot of stuff is different that has been constantly asking questions and trying to get help

>>46072715
>>46072922
Its fucking bad how posting on the internet has been destroyed by optimizing the fun out of it. Discord is good as a replacement for shitty MSM and skype, but instead it has been turned into social media that has made discussing topics with communities a horrible endeavor. I'm not going to be retarded enough to imply circlejerk forums of old were better tho

But its not just discord, Generals in 4chan are also optimization that's taking out the fun of posting as anon.
When 99% of the information one could ever care for is included in the OP of a general, who the fuck cares about reading the thread at all and talking about the topic itself? Moreover, when a general exists, why would anyone go to make and create an original thread talking about something related to the topic? Why would anyone not familiar with the game ever click on the general to discover it, and thus gain more players and people to discuss? Its bland and boring. Really easy to find info, sure, but if that's the case then what the fuck is there to talk about in the thread?
>"Hey guys, new to elona, what build should I play?"
>"just read the OP"
>...
>thread dies

/tg/ just makes me want to fucking cry

>>46073641
Yakasha when...

>>46072520
>what does it mean when it says so and so has discovered (rare item) in a place in the log?
This puzzled me too, but its a very shitty scroll actually
When you read "dagger of nipple twisting has been generated in Vernis at 22/527" it doesn't actually mean that a new item has just been created and its waiting for you there, it only points to you that in that location the game spawned an artifact that's, most of the time, in the inventory of some of the high level NPC mercenaries at the beginning of the game and then from the last time you used the scroll

In other words, the reason why it says "spawned awesome knife and bow at your home" is because the elves were carrying those items, so the game generated them in your home in the beginning

Anyone else's game freezes after mourning all the ether daggers in Elin?

>>46075960
may as well ask you, is Elin actually what's advertised: "Elona 2 with isometric view", or is it one of those lame sequels that is inferior to the original except graphics?

>find a lightsaber
>press [t] to use something
>notice I can use the lightsaber
>use the lightsaber
>everything turns to ice
>everything takes a shit ton of ice damage including me
>die
wooooooooow

>>46076807
>The enemy dies
what do you expect?

>>46076844
It didn't say that I would die as well.
Also it was unidentified and I didn't read that enchantment yet.
My retard brain couldn't resist activating it. Of all the things that could've happened, nuking the whole fucking map was probably the last thing I expected.

>>46076920
You're a danger to yourself and so you die

>>46076233
I've only played custom but honestly right now it's inferior to it in most ways. It's just really early in development - not all monsters have their behaviors working, some skills are missing or not working etc.
I do feel like on release / early access it will be way better if the updates continue at current pace but right now it's pretty rough.
Still got like 200 hours out of it right now tho

I think I keep setting my custom AI wrong, anyone got a template to follow?

>>46077698
Depends, what kind of pet do you have? Melee, ranged, support? If you post your AI here and what you're trying to get your pet to do, I'd be happy to help with debugging.
Also, on the off-chance you didn't know about it, here's the instruction manual for custom AI:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

>>46077875
Thanks for the link, I should have figured there would be a wiki page.
I think I have it correct as the paralyzer isn't sperging out about not knowing what to do. I just want to make sure I'm going to get the ability to proc
Target distance = 1 Bodyblow
Target Distance = 1 attack (melee)
Target distance > 1 move (forward)

To me this means if the target is one away then she will attempt to use bodyblow, failing that then she will attack normal. If the target is to far then she will move forward. While I'm on the subject what does "Preserve Entity as Target" do?

>>46074909
tl;dr but historically not many anons play omake, so its likely that nobody actually knows the answers to your questions.

>>46076233
I think its going to be superior to vanilla Elona by the time it has a full release, mainly because of the expanded map and the settlement mechanics. Right now many important things like main dungeons are not implemented yet though.

>>46076920
>Of all the things that could've happened, nuking the whole fucking map was probably the last thing I expected.

>>46078073
>Right now many important things like main dungeons are not implemented yet though.
yeah, too soon to make a call

>not many anons play omake
I wish I could just play the Elona+ Custom G with all the classes of the omake, as having to go through so many hoops to finally get started with the skills and stuff that you wanted from the beginning is a pain. Also, the tranny and fetish shit in E+ just feels bad to witness

>>46077936
That AI looks fine to me. It should do exactly what you want.
"Preserve Entity as Target" is for when you want the move to be used on something other than the enemy your pet is currently locked onto. For example, if you have a line like "Self HP < 50%: Heal Critical", you want the pet to use Heal Critical on "Self", not the current enemy.

>>46078420
OHH I get it now. Entity being the pet itself, not something else. Thanks. That helps a lot. I got a good feeling about this run, let's see if I can get another character to Lost Irva.

>>46078605
Not exactly. "Entity" means whatever is used at the start of the line: "Self", "Player", "Ally", or "Target". Naturally, if it's already "Target", then "Preserve Entity as Target" should have no effect.
Although, I'm not actually sure that a pet needs to be told to cast Heal Critical on itself, since normally that automatically self-targets. Anyway, if something like that doesn't work or doesn't work right, you can try toggling PEaT to see if that fixes it.

Holy shit Literacy can make tons of money in E+. I previously powerleveled Literacy and the knowledge spell so that I can read domination spellbooks. With such high level Literacy and Divine Wisdom, the manuscripts I make at tables are decent quality. I am easily buying out every spellbook, valuable scrolls and potions from magic shops then draining them of their money.
If I save up enough manuscripts I buy all the overpriced treasure maps from that guy in Larna for farming (godly) gear and small medals.
Pic related is around 300 Noob manuscripts and 300 Cool.

>>46076233
It really is too early to tell, like the other anons said. Personally, I think it's on a good trajectory. Noa is clearly taking the lessons learned from Elona and improving on them, e.g. Potential floors and the food/farming system. There's not much content plotwise, but this is the time to lay groundwork and mechanics.

Is there any translated fork of Elona that removes the bullshit grind for coins in order to level skills in reasonable time?

>>46082762
Dunno when did you last play, but platinum prices got somewhat cheaper and skill bonuses from sleeping were greatly increased a few years ago.

>>46082213
>There's not much content plotwise,
to be fair I couldn't give less of a shit about the plot of a sandbox like Elona

>start the game as a thief
>spawned with two maces for weapons and no skill in blunt
>no fucking shops are selling short blades
>fighting is pain
what the fuck do I do

>>46084859
Can't you let the Little Girl carry you until you get to another city. Anyway does anyone know if the Lovepotionlittlesister from Omake that are grown from crops made a good pet?

>>46085089
>until you get to another city
you didn't get it
no fucking shops
shops
in plural
I've been everywhere, no short blades being sold or found anywhere, fuck

>>46078374
>I wish I could just play the Elona+ Custom G with all the classes of the omake, as having to go through so many hoops to finally get started with the skills and stuff that you wanted from the beginning is a pain.
You could mod in whatever you want with Custom GX, though matching omake classes with their feats would be a pain to implement and maintain when merging updates. If you just want to start off with different skills though, you could try editing one of the existing classes, creating a new character, then reverting your changes. I think that your skills would be unaffected by the revert.

>>46082762
Platinum coins are there to encourage you to do jobs and clear dungeons instead of just grinding skills all day every day. However, if you play a recent version or fork of Elona Plus, raising skill potentials is extremely cheap and ridiculously effective.

>>46084859
Search for some in the puppy caves since it sounds like its too late for you to nuke the real protagonist for her dagger.

Did they change how pets cook food and make items in the morning? I remember you just needed to wake up at a certain time when they had the skill, but my pet isn't cooking for me in the morning.

>>46085902
did you give her the yellow pleasant sleep blanket?

Trying to instal Omake Overhaul but I get missing names and descriptions like this. It also happens on class selections and other menus.
I followed the OP's guide. How do I fix it?

>>46085621
>with their feats
how about without the feats and jus the starting skills?
>If you just want to start off with different skills though, you could try editing one of the existing classes, creating a new character, then reverting your changes. I think that your skills would be unaffected by the revert.
Gotcha, i'll give that a try
I can imagine, but may as well ask why is it important to revert the changes

>>46085726
>too late for you to nuke the real protagonist for her dagger.
is that even possible? I always though the elves are too difficult to kill

>>46085930
fuck, i'm retarded and forgot I did that

God I love the alias roller
>wandering retard
>black dude
>talented disaster
>animal pleasure
>The pimp
>glacial sex
>chaotic failure
>bloody airhead
And my personal favorite
>horrible lad

>>46089353
Wonder if some of them would get taken out in Elin

>>46078123
I love this image set

Best way to get bronze coins? Farming and trap quests just give me 1 coin per completion and they take a lot of effort...

>>46090371
Farming quests are the easiest shit and very quick to complete. If you are using Custom GX, you can leave early if you've already reached your quota. Also, you might get herb seeds which are really nice to have once you get your own farm going. I spent the early game spamming harvest quests in Yowyn for quick and easy plat and bronze.

>>46090540
Yowyn usually gives me about 3-5 farming quests per cycle (Not sure when it resets, doesn't look like it's daily), which is not enough to sustain my shopkeeper training. Wish I could just pay in platinum instead.

As someone who hasn't played before what version should I download? I read the FAQ, but am still unsure. I don't want anything that overhauls the game too much because I don't know if I actually enjoy it yet. I have played vanilla just enough to get the basics and want some QOL updates. Is Elona+ a good choice? Otherwise I am leaning towards oomSESTepNC because the FAQ says it has more sandbox elements which sounds fun.

Looking for opinions please. I hardly understand what the differences are between everything.

>>46090719
Plus is a vertical slice and strongly pushes you to follow its JRPG plot, Omake goes broad and lets you sandbox more. The former has much faster progression because of the taller vertical slice, while Omake progression is closer to vanilla.

I downloaded the Omake overhaul and the english patch, but I am getting screens like this. Those empty spots can still be selected. Does anyone know what I did wrong? I followed the directions in the FAQ and I ran the omake-overhaul exe to start the game.

>>46090719
Thanks for the info Omake feels a lot snappier than vanilla which was one of my biggest complaints but I think I messed something up with the english translation perhaps.

>>46086332
Looks like we have basically the exact same issue. Im sure someone knows what is going on, or where we can go to find answers.
>>46091142

>>46086332
>>46091142
Sorry for the triple post but I found the solution to our issue. Back up the elona folder you have now just to be sure. Copy all the files and folders from the omake_overhaul_EN folder into the actual elona install except for the /data, /user, /options, and /Changelogs folder. It should be that simple. The FAQ only tells us to transfer over a few folders, but it seems all or some of the rest of the files in the EN version are needed. Whoever is able should probably fix that. I figured this out based on the directions listed on the english versions fandom page.

>>46090792
Do omake have NPCs that identifies your stuff for cheap?

>>46091365
The vanilla wizard NPC already does that

>>46089353
My current dwarf has the alias of “Surprise Bitch”, which I assume he shouts when he attacks someone.

>>46092153
Yeah but they are pretty pricey

>>46092997
Lolwhat

>>46093197
Weren't they like charge 500 gold per item?

>>46089371
>>46089353
Fucking riot of Elin is emasculated and took out the insulting/offensive ones

>>46086374
>I can imagine, but may as well ask why is it important to revert the changes
I'm pretty sure that any NPCs generated while you have them made will also receive the same changes. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, but it might be changing more than you intended.

>is that even possible? I always though the elves are too difficult to kill
Yes, it is a popular strategy and its so prevalent that a model of the dagger that Larnierre drops was one of the backer goods for Elin's kickstarter. All you have to do is completely avoid Vernis, get 10000 buckeroos, buy a nuclear bomb in Derphy, and bring it back to your cave without dying on the way. I think Ano might have removed it in a recent version of plus though, but it should work in vanilla and omake.

>>46089371
>>46093446
Every alias that >>46089353 listed can still be generated in Elin. As well as the highly sought after homo aliases.

>>46093215
Sounds about right for vanilla.

>>46093836
God bless him

>>46093701
First Ano increased the elves' health so they could survive a nuke, then when that didn't work he made them leave the moment you exited your cave.

Idk why he was so anal about it, the ether dagger isn't that good anyway even early game.

>>46093215
Only if you're using the option specifically for identifying miracles and godlies, and even then it's not that much.

A whole backpack full of junk drops is less than a hundred or so.

Of course, why pay the mage when you can learn sense quality?

How are you supposed to make money in early game omake?

>>46092799
Kek

>>46085726
>nuke the elves
You can no longer do this in Plus since they leave immediately when you do, which is a retarded change imo

>Lightning element is now associated with the Paralyzed status ailment, [meaning that Lightning attacks will inflict Paralyzed and Lightning resistance will give resistance to that status ailment].
>Nerve element is no longer associated with Paralyzed; it is now associated with Sleep.
>Similarly, Illusion element is now associated with Fear.
>A character afflicted by Sleep status ailment will no longer have 100% chance of being woken up by an attack.
The fuck? Why? Yeah I'm not updating. Illusion is worthless now. Nerve gets a shittier paralysis. Meanwhile lightning no longer has the irresistible short stun.

I'm playing omake, and maybe it's because I am new but I am very confused why as the violinist class I don't start with any instrument to play let alonge a violin. I also took a point in the singing skill and I don't seem to be able to sing either, but that makes more sense to me if I only have a single point in it. I don't seem to have any sort of perform skill at all. An explanation or advice is welcome

Is karma still a thing in elin?

>>46101663
ya

>>46101776
Wonder if it'll affect your community

I think one of the more interesting things this time around is that god bonuses apply to enemies as well. It's a nice way of putting affixes on enemies without being obvious about it.

Right now normal dungeons are whatever, but places like the void make that 10% damage negate or speed boost significant.

>>46102398
How can you tell which enemy worship which god?

>>46094787
Just checked in 1.16 with a fresh yerles archer and the mage is charging 288 per item or 4807 for miracles and godlies. Its a bit steep in early game before you can do jobs reliably, though personally I like it this way. Its gone down by about 30% or so on a clear save of mine though probably due to charisma and negotation.

>>46099511
You can frequent shops to try to buy an instrument, or use the pianos sitting around in bars and party time quests. I don't know if you are supposed to spawn with one in omake or not but pianists in other versions do spawn with an extremely heavy piano.

>>46103344
How do you survive early game with that kind of price?

>>46104208
You have to be a bit choosy about what you identify with mages and scrolls, and do some identifying through testing and guesswork. Its pretty much the standard roguelike identification experience. The biggest hurdle in early game is from how slow skills grow in vanilla and how expensive skill potential is (IIRC a flat cost of 5 platinum coins for 10%).

>>46094941
Escort quest and I want it quest
>>46099511
You need a special class (idol) for singing skill I believe, otherwise that skill is useless. In Omake you can switch class later on

>>46094760
He is attached to the character or something. Iirc he raises a fuss about how in the original lore of Elona, Lomias retired in despair with burn scars and retreated to a cave near his own home, becoming a hobo that lives in a cave (like the one he killed at the beginning of the game) and Larnierre died in a fire (they have bad ends). So in his version, they live, it's silly. I usually ignore it

>>46106070
That doesn't make sense. Everyone's able to recover from the PC's shenanigans after a couple weeks or so. The nuke can't actually change the story, all it does is mess up your first house.

>>46106174
No, what I mean is that he cares about the characters as if they were real people. It's silly. If he didn't, he wouldn't raise a fuss about how Lomias and Larnierre originally die at the end of vanilla Elona

>>46106174
The nuke is unrelated. He is probably talking about how Elona was supposed to end

>>46106282
Lomiasbros....

>>46106282
>No, what I mean is that he cares about the characters as if they were real people.
That's pretty normal though? Fictional characters are usually way more likeable than real people

>>46103380
Right I had made a pianist when I was trying to learn the controls and the basics of the gaem so I was confused why I don't have one as I violinist. Not sure if I want to reroll my character into a different class now.

>>46106023
Interesting to learn. Good thing I only put one skill point into it.

>>46022961
>>46054609
I have some bad news for you anon, incestuous gay bestiality is possible in every version of elona, even vanilla.

How in the fuck are you supposed to do the clean up mischief quests? Every single one spawns these bamboo spirit things that sprint across the map and hit me for ever 700 damage, and running away means they spit venom for over 100. This was a 1 star green quest in Vernis, this amount of damage is outright absurdity.

i will generate billions of female ebon AI pictures and NOBODY will stop me

>>46108305
>2.21 change
Naruhodo

>>46110060
Basic worship bonus is passive mana steal on melee attack.

>>46085621
>You could mod in whatever you want with Custom GX
I tried getting to it and mod one of the omake classes that I want to play in Elona+ (just the skills) but I don't know how to do it
tried googling "elona+ changing classes" and similar with no useful results, any help?

>>46110060
nice, I'm curious to see the official art

>>46110060
How many custom gods is he adding?

>>46110060
Mommy?

>>46112806
I started a new character to try her out amongst other things, and her signals from god are indeed very mommy.

She keeps on calling me a good kid and offering to pat my head.

>>46110060
Yakasha when...

>>46106070
Checking the changelog, Ano's reasoning is that he doesn't want to encourage players to go through a slow and convoluted process to get a few powerful items at the start of every new game and apparently they are now supposed to just drop on the floor when you first leave your cave.

Ano's version of their fates being different from canon probably comes from a common misunderstanding about the elea girl at the trial and Lomias' fate not being mentioned in the game. Also the original artist that did the portraits for Plus asked Noa about it and Noa was okay with it since its a variant after all.

>>46111602
You have to edit the HSP files included in the github and recompile it. It looks like the file you want to modify is db_class.hsp. HSP really sucks though so good luck.

>>46113781
god damn it, I have no idea of how to do it
time to learn

>>46113758
But the convoluted method was funny

>>46113996
You've got the basic instructions right here:
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX#building
Just use Notepad++ or whatever to edit HSP files.
Although it looks like ONION Software doesn't host HSP 3.4a anymore? A few versions of 3.4b and 3.4RC, but not 3.4a.
https://www.onionsoft.net/wp/archives/911
No idea whether that'd be a problem.

>>46114178
Nevermind, I got it:
https://www.onionsoft.net/hsp/file/hsp34a.zip
They just stopped linking to it for whatever reason. It's still there.

>>46113996
So for compiling you probably want to try getting it working before you edit anything by following the steps listed on the github. Once you have it compiling, search around in db_class for the class you want. I would recommend choosing your class based on the feat you want since that is harder to change. If you say want to modify the archer class, look for " dbidn == "archer" " and the following section with a bunch of "skillinit" calls. You'll want to replace the stuff like "SKILL_WEAPON_ANATOMY" or whatever with the skills you want and adjust the bonus numbers at the end. You can find the list of skills in mod.hsp starting with "SKILL_NORMAL_LITERACY". Don't replace the "SKILL_ATTR_" stuff though, just rebalance the numbers for them.

>>46114184
>>46114178
>>46120693
thanks bro, I'll see what I can do. I really want a class that starts with dual wielding and weight lifting, as well as a little bit of magic

Would be expecting some changes from familiar faces from Elona.

Exile now only doublecasts darts, not triplecasts, but is immune to nether, magic and dark.

God pets are guaranteed to have the faith of their god.

Defender got a holy immunity and now actively heals the party.

>>46120979
what are you talking about

>>46120693
Alright, I think I got it, thing is that now I don't know how to finish the job, and it doesn't help that the program is in jiberish moonrunes. I've never worked with code or anything similar to this before I didn't even know what the fuck compiling was before getting to this

Anybody know any good schemes for making lots of money in Elin? I am a ton of bills behind and doing dungeons has been a huge net negative so far.

>>46122154
oh nevermind, it worked perfectly, I was getting worried for nothing

I don't know why i had to compile the main file before getting to modify the db_class one

>>46121018
Probably Elin news

>>46122154
Your changes look okay to me.
To open the file in hsed (#4 of the github build instructions), open the main.hsp file with ファイル(O) > 開く(O). Don't bother running in debug mode. Just use CTRL+F5 (or HSP(P) > 実行ファイル自動作成(A)) to create the exe.

>>46122180
Congrats man.

>>46122162
Your taxes are calculated from 20% of the value of all walls, floors, furniture etc placed on your land. Less furniture = less taxes. Don't overdo it if you can't afford upkeep. Turn expensive furniture into cheap materials like paper, straw or grass with inferior mat scrolls.

As Loytel says, ship with the shipping bin, it gives you the best returns.

My starts usually have me deforesting the surrounding tiles and making long benches, which are easy to make at 4 planks. You can also pick crim nuts off bushes and grind them into crim powder at a millstone.

>>46122348
No need for that, I just created the character with the changes made and once I had the edited class with all the skills I wanted I just copied the savefile with the changed class to a fresh copy of the game, without needing to revert changes or create a new exe

So I don't know how stats matter and interact in this game, is the bonus to +5 dexterity on the bow to the right better than the bigger numbers of the bow to the left?

>>46122478
I'd probably go with the dexterity one if you are low level. It gets 1 less damage on average but dexterity increases your hit chance IIRC.

If Omake can put in a talent that increases level cap to 9999, can this be done in Elona+ as well?
And can we go even beyond that?
I'd gladly pay someone to make such mod for E+

>>46123402
why do you care about turning elona into disgaea

>>46123880
I just like the idea of growing in power FOREVER

>>46124631
Why tho
have you ever reached max level in elona anyway

>>46124631
if you want to do that, just play the Elona Mobile version then

>Fixed a bug where failed lockpicking attempts were giving experience to the chest instead of the player.

>>46127206
It's the Guild Wars 1 monster leveling all over again

>>46127206
I always thought it was a feature and not bug that you got nothing from failed attempts.

>>46127206
that sounds so fucking funny

how do i cope with my melee fighter having poor accuracy?

Is there way to sell vomits？

>>46133557
I'll buy it, but only if it came from a girl (biological female)

>>46133557
No. Items worth 0 orens don't sell. You can dump it into a shipping bin and it'll be removed, but you won't earn money for it.

You can also destroy it by making a trash bin and throwing it in.

>>46133557
If you are playing Elin you can turn it into wine or cheese

>>46135811
Interesting

>>46140670
This but with ehekatl

>>46140670
>>46141458
This but with Horome while she tells me what a good boy I am.

>>46142094
Do we have any Horome art?

Sup guys, fa/tg/uy here

I would love your opinion and take on this ttrpg

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LfQE_xEfK34epihQxDwpNhyGheUpmVQWhhfPcc2_KEk

>>46142782
No but the game says that Nefu have big tits and that she is tragically beautiful.

That way I can sub in any redhead MILF fox girl in my head and it kinda works.

>>46140670
This but with Yakasha

>>46143008
When did this got made?

>>46131906
You might want to increase your dexterity and make sure you aren't equiping weapons in a way that has a huge accuracy penalty.

>>46143351
I have the feeling Yakasha will become a fan favourite once she is correctly implemented

>>46140670
I love Jure!

>>46143008
I've never done any real tabletop/pen & paper roleplaying, but at a glance this looks pretty good. I can tell a lot of work went into it. (I also took the liberty of posting corrections for a couple of small grammatical errors that slipped through the cracks.)

>>46143008
I don't know much about trpg but that looks impressive. Nice work anon.

>>46143900
very recently, a month ago at most I think
>>46143987
oh nice, notepad anon (the author) will surely apreciate the input
>>46143992
not my work. The guy is from /tg/ and has a lot of dedication to make ttrpgs. He also takes comissions and someone asked him to make a Elona ttrpg.
Because I like Elona a lot I went to take a look and give a lot of suggestions to the guy with comments, I even added the entire section about the Gods, all in preparation of playing a game with friends this week. I though it would be good to also ask you guys for further input

>>46144147
Dabbled in ttrpgs on and off. It looks okay. Don't worry about sticking too closely to the setting, just about every fork from plus to mobile shits all over the lore. The focus should be on making it fun to play.

There are a bunch of systems which could be intimidating for people unfamiliar to the franchise. Would keep first session simple and be prepared to jettison things like etherwind if players find it unfun.

Looks ok otherwise, good luck.

>>46144407
there's a lot of stuff that you don't know or realize until you actually sit down to try the game. A lot of suggestions and changes came after I sat down with friends to make the characters, realizing how time consuming and boring the charatcer creation was and also generating the weapons with the material, rarity and so on, which prompted me to create a Excel sheet to automatize the whole thing

Notepad anon has a very good philosophy and principles, understanding that its more important to prioritize the feeling of a game/setting rather than emulating it as close as possible. Things that work on a videogame don't work on a ttrpg and vice versa. I do agree with you that I also think he worried too much about the lore and taking it very seriously, as the reason he didn't add the Gods was because "we don't have much lore on them", which prompted me to make it myself just based on the few dialogue lines they have in the game and he liked it (although he changed a couple of things that were too humorous to, again, take it more seriously, but its fine)

Does anyone have a kalimba tab for Elona's opening song?

>>46144621
>changed a couple of things that were too humorous
Please tell me Opatos still has a strange sense of humor

>>46148478
No, but you can find the midi file in the sound folder which some programs might be able to use to create for you.

>>46151080
read the document to find out bro

>>46153011
>although he finds everything to be absolutely hilarious
I guess this counts

What does hardening your equipment at a blacksmith do? I can't tell what the difference between +0 and +10 is

>>46156075
I think its an increase of +1 (well, +10 in that case) to hit and damage, like in D&D

>>46156109
I see, I checked the stats page and hit rate does go up, it just doesn't seem to be reflected in the weapon stats

>>46156136
there you go
does it also reflect in the damage in the stats page?

>>46156075
It's a bit more obvious with non-weapons. Every plus will give you a fairly significant defense boost.

>>46156190
yeah

>>46156075
+2 to hit and damage for weapons, +2 PV and DV for armour. And yeah, it's not reflected on the item's stats in Elona.

>>46135811
Oh!
How can I do?

Black Angel and Android released. Both have multishot talents, Android fires two extra times, black angel one extra time. Black angel makes up for it with a more diverse skill set. Both have faster reload speed.

God pets will kill each other if you have more than 2 in your party.

>>46160096
Put it in a brewing barrel or aging shelf.

>>46161630
>God pets will kill each other
Me likey

>>46161630
Do you just get them by praying with high piety?

>>46161786
They're much stronger than they were in Elona, so some limitation isn't unreasonable.

>>46161930
Yes.

>>46162339
>Yes.
Damn guess I'm switching faiths then, thanks

>>46162374
Personally speaking, I'd wait for all of them to come out before making a decision. All of them have majorly changed in some way.

>>46161630
Are there different sprites depending on gender? Will there be pet evolution?

I just got a living weapon, but it isn't a weapon I was planning on using (it's a stone)
What do I do with it?

>>46164248
100% into magic resistance

>>46164248
isnt there scrolls to change materials?

>>46162989
No and no. All of them so far generate with a fixed sex.

Also, pet evolution was never in vanilla, so while someone might mod it I wouldn't expect it.

Roadmap released
>Early 2024: Alpha (Current alpha test)
>Early to Mid 2024: Pre-beta (Preparation period before beta)
>Mid 2024: Beta (Phase 1)
>Mid to Late 2024: Beta (Phase 2)
>Late 2024: EA

>>46165962
Full post with more details here
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin/posts/4034491

>>46161630
THX!
I could make cheese

What does this potion do? It sounds rare and I can't find anything searching on the wiki.

>>46171610
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/work/2.05-custom-gx/db_item.hsp
>ITEM_ID_POTION_WISDOM
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Potions?so=search#High_Potion_of_Wisdom
>Gives you the Hero, Gem Power, Concentration, and Wisdom buffs, each lasting 50 turns.

>>46172141
Thanks. I guess they changed the name.

>>46165676
>no pet evolution
damn, linda wish that was one of plus' feature that he would take

>>46166159
Is the beta being released to the public?

>>46172303
I mean, practically speaking...

Stat increase? Trivial to do.

Sprite change? Already doable with a few clicks.

One or two new moves? Shouldn't be hard.

Nothing that it meaningfully adds DESU.

>>46172399
But my immersion also it's cool

>>46172299
They didn't change the name, you just haven't identified it.

Small update, black angel boosts and triples her speed when under 25% hp. Android reboots and self-rezzes at 25% hp when killed.

Working on getting the remaining 3 god pets.

God rewards will only work correctly when wielded by a believer.

>>46175076
>God rewards will only work correctly when wielded by a believer.
Huh, I thought god rewards weren't implemented yet

>>46172312
No, Early Access is the first time people who did not back the Kickstarter will get access to the game

>>46175440
Aiiieeee

>>46175076
>God rewards will only work correctly when wielded by a believer.
Booo
I want to collect them all

>>46176051
You can still do that, they just won't function properly unless wielded by you or a pet with the correct faith.

New bread?

>>46178565
Here
>>46180842