/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>45870971
I downloaded a scan of a book on how to draw in anime style. Nothing can stop me.

Doki Doki Waku Waku

(Sorry for the terrible lighting)

Smug Satori-chan

The matriarch stares at (you) seductively

Daikon-sama is disgusted by (You)r request, wonder what you asked to get that reaction...

Fun fact, all 4 drawings were done on a single long paper sheet I had

>>45871295
Nice

>>45870971
She really looks like Suigintou.

>>45871321
junk

>>45871321
both of their designs are from around the same era, actually
circa 2002, when Rozen Maiden began serializing

>>45871321
>>45872557
Best girl.

Mayumi for the mayumi thread

>>45871150
Nice!

>>45877120
How tall is Koto in the left exactly?

Dear artists, how do you stop getting jealous from looking at other artists who are better/more popular than you?

>>45877594
I just resigned myself to draw exclusively while on the imageboards. My identity outside of here doesn't matter, and I mostly make art to soothe my mind if I've nothing else to do.

>>45877594
i don't, i know and every one who has spent more than 1 day on the internet that
popularity=/=quality

and when it comes to technical skill, you either work hard or use shortcuts so theres nothing to be jealos about since everything is at your reach.

>>45877594
I just look at what they do and see what I can do better. I know there are people better than me and I won't get there unless I accept it and keep practicing. This drawing was just for a joke thread on /k/, please ignore.

And now the baku

>>45877594
Doesn't matter anymore, the AI mogs everyone equally. Except animators.

>>45877594
I cope by thinking even though I'm less skilled, I have lots of good ideas than them rather than just drawing standing character for the millionth time

Monke girl and her pet monke

My mother liked this one so much that she wanted it framed. Also, this drawing is a parody of Gabriel von Max's "Schlafen_gehenǃ" painting. You should check his art if you like monkeys.

>>45877594
im making my art for my own satisfaction, not anyone else's. i find the process itself gratifying, i dont need to be "better" than someone else just like a gardener doesn't need to compete with another gardener.

>>45877594
Because barely anyone else draws what I draw

more ayylien, this only using the meme airbrush

>>45881608
*this time

>>45883189
*Pats her head*

>>45881016
>She wanted it framed
Cute

>>45880354
The thing is, that's what people want. Viewers don't want unique drawings with cool or new ideas, they want the same slop served to them again and again. That's why skilled artists that draw the same drawing 800 times have such big followings. But you know, as long as you're having fun with your art, it really doesn't matter what you draw imo. Draw slop, draw characters standing in a white void, or draw a crazy detailed unique piece. Whatever. As long as you enjoy yourself while you do it and feel accomplished when you're done, that's all that truly matters. I feel the same as >>45881137, I make art for my own satisfaction.

>>45880993
>>45871263
Your style looks like something from an alternate reality where Touhou was popular in the 1910s instead of the 2010s

Big okuu, better than the last one. Idk what to draw next.

>>45886004
I sense pain in those hands

>>45886074
you know, I felt like there was something wrong, is it just the right arm?

Lineart.
Is there anything to add or improve here?

>>45886379
Hmm right when I was thinking about drawing hina. The face could have been done better, plus the way its positioned makes it seem like she doesn't have a neck. Ass is good, back boob good.

>>45886777
The face is an artistic choice, the hair is supposed to cover her mouth and neck.
Still think it can be done better.

Redrew of a previous mayumi drawing, except not making her angry

Hina

>>45888889
Loser lol

>>45888889
Nice, we need more Hina ITT

>>45888991
I'll draw more of her

been trying to learn to watercolor in my diary... i am not very good tho.

Are card games otaku culture?

>>45892741
cute cute cute!!!

>>45892522
Closer to vidya, but I'll allow it.

>>45885590
Yeah, some anon in the previous thread told me the same, to be fair I actually like the aesthetics of that era, so I try to emulate the best I can. I will draw some 2hu 1910ish clothes someday.

>>45883189
>>45892741
Cute Remimimis are best Remimimis

Hina

>>45892741
Extremely cute.

>>45895449
The lips look thick and nice.

>>45892741
Cute but looks like you traced ZUN.

>>45872557
>>45870971
I spent a lot of time trying to figure my way around the Windows 3.1 operating system. Now I've got Photoshop 2.5.1... Which in this version of Windows is more like MS Paint deluxe, or rather, Paintbrush deluxe.
https://files.catbox.moe/x3nq85.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4etlb4.BMP
You can actually run Photoshop 4 on this thing, which has layers... But I haven't figured out a way to stop it from crashing the moment you draw for more than 5 seconds! Why Oobabasama, why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8y066LgdUg

>>45897432
Tomorrow I definitely should put more time into my lines though. I got too caught up in experimenting with the old software when I was making this and forgot to try and correct some lines. Then I ran out of time and had to sleep...

>>45871133
post?

>>45897920
Its not in english, sorry. Also I think Im doing good for someone who never drawn, maybe in some days I will post art here too

>>45898554
Just post it, it will only help you improve. I was scared to post my art too but all I got was constructive feedback and compliments. It really increased my confidence as someone who likes to draw as a hobby and made me better.

>>45897432
>>45870971
I love your gimmick of using the proper OS and ancient software to draw 3.1-tan

>>45898627
Thanks. It is definitely the hardest part though, if I just sat down and drew I could make stuff very quickly but I insist on trying to fix stuff on the old gal that I have no idea how to fix.
I really want Photoshop 3 to work... It has the first layer function...

I requested Louise's butt in the AI thread, no one delivered so I decided to do It myself.
Why is Louise so Slutty anons?

Okuu warming a pizza with her boobs...?

>>45904319
I am working on a new picture now, but I started too late. Gotta finish tomorrow instead...

>>45898614
Thanks for the words but I think I'll wait a little longer

>>45912225
Very cute.

Is it a good idea to make a twitter to archive my art?

>>45922186
yes

>>45922186
No, social media is for fucking faggots. Rise above it, be perma anonymous.

>>45904684
she is not, but your mind is already too deep in the gutter to understand that

It's been a lazy day

>>45905672
Best Okuu you've drawn yet.

>>45904684
Nice PC-98hu

>>45923788
Is that an OC?

>>45924783
>Is that an OC?
It's just a shrine maiden

>>45930688
Bald

>>45922186
Twitter is by all means the worst platform to archive your works.
Anything above 900x900 res will be compressed to shit.
Anything that doesn't appeal to the normie legion will obliterate your gallery anyways.
It's not even good for exposure as it's most often than not destructive thanks to the hoards of tranny cultists burning down anything sane.
Make Pixiv instead, and link uncensored stuff from catbox or something. Try to speak little to no English.
This is the only decent option unless you wanna freelance. In that case.. good luck.

trying to do another pose. its my first time drawing from the side actually... and i think i fucked up the arms (the head is a placeholder from the other drawing)

Drew an Ayayayayaya

>>45933535
Cute! Needs thicker thighs and wider hips.

>>45933611
Aya needs to be slender and aerodynamic to do her job, pls understand

>>45933535
Very good anon
how do you do those knees and elbows? my book doesn't teach me that

>>45933617
And I need to lick her thighs

>>45933630
Uhh im no expert, I don't want to give bad advice , but for the elbow, depending on the angle, you may see the contour of the elbow bones, so you add a slightly square-ish bump there in the contour. It doesn't needs to be perfect but it helps to study sculptures, anime figures, etc to see how the outline should work more or less. Also the elbow has a particular form that makes a shadow in the skin so it helps to make a small mark to show that shadow, if the viewer sees part of the elbow pointing towards them and not just its contour.

The knees are a bit of a mystery to me still. They often points towards the viewer and when they do I use two markings to indicate that, since just like the elbow, their particular roundish shape casts a shadow. When the leg is slightly to the side I use contour + 1 marking to indicate position. Sometimes even no shadow just contour. Depends on where the knee is pointing really. Knees and elbows are similar in that depending on the viewers angle, you should use either contour to show the bone structure, shadow to show their position inside the contour of the figure, or both.

Once again I am not an expert, I'm just winging it. But thats more or less the logic.

>>45933830
Thank you, this part has beeing one of the hardest for me

>>45881608
what meme airbrush?

>>45906535
>>45870971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDUv_8Dw-Mw
I decided to try and go all out on this after getting used to PS2.5.1.
Sadly I can't figure out how to solve her memory issues, since that seems to be what's preventing me from running Photoshop 3 or 4 with Win32s, but I think I can make do.
https://files.catbox.moe/1qrbi9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0ftchp.BMP

>>45935267
Also, PS3 is the first one with the layer function so I had to go through this entire picture manually with no shortcuts. Kind of tedious, but fun.
Something I also didn't realize until now is that the modern computer renders the colors completely differently. DOS/Win 3.1 can't show solid colors and instead relies on pixel combinations from its limited color palette. Makes the experience very weird when you're working through stuff in detail.

Some OC for Sumireko's day

These "how to draw a head at any angle" tutorials are so bad man. Once I crack the code on this I'm gonna make my own tutorial that actually explains how it's done

>>45938888
Awesome.

https://vocaroo.com/1fA9OCDDQCbR
Went back to an older song I posted here and added vocals with Teto, but I can't put a finger on why the mixing sounds so dogshit. I've rarely mixed vocals in the past aside. Does anyone mind listening to see if they're too loud/quiet/etc.?

>>45938888
I love the colours and perspective in this! They remind me of the whole cyberpunk aesthetic.

>>45939370
I made an english cover of Japan Break Industries last thread ( >>45846114 ), so I have a bit of insight despite being new to mixing my own stuff.
They definitely sound "buried in the mix", but there's a few ways you can alleviate this if you know what to get/look for.
I personally would recommend using the Trackspacer plugin (and if you're using REAPER or something, make sure to learn how2sidechain the different tracks so it actually works) cause it will automatically cut out a section of the linked instrumental's volume with your adjustments.
Secondly, I'd try to find a way to "maximize" or increase the "loudness" of the vocals so that they don't dip in volume at any point. Once they're equal, you can then manually modify them with an "envelope" or something similar to be loud/quiet when they need to be.
If you need the torrents for the plugins I use, I have the stuff I use for REAPER in a catbox here: https://files.catbox.moe/v7xxn5.zip
Though, I originally pulled them from RuTracker.

>>45933295

>>45940023
Lol

>>45940023
>>45940069
Get out of my head Anonymous, I was drawing this too

I need to learn how to draw hands so I can draw Alice getting slapped in the butt

snorting a line of coke

>>45940557
Who the fuck is this?

>>45940565
frieren

>>45939657
I should mention that, for maximizing/loudness, I really recommend trying the Ozone plugin's maximizer. Since I'm kind of inexperienced, I just put a maximizer first on the vocal track and then on the full vocal/instrumental stack/ontop of everything.
That way the vocals and their FX are amplified, and then you can also minimize the ability for the mix to peak... sort of. I definiely should experiment more, but first my cold needs to be over with.
>>45940557
/a/non... the /a/ drawthread is on the other side of the website!

>>45940591
>/a/ drawthread
oh, i didn't know there was one

perhaps can be seen as related to touhou

>>45940023
So if i draw her with breasts... it can hide the arm and make it look more natural?

>>45941547
Pretty sure it won't look natural if you draw breasts big enough to hide her whole arm behind lol.

I was mining /h/ archives and found some pretty cool Touhou requests, I decided to draw one of them here
>https://files.catbox.moe/oj1ksq.png
Not that great, also my first explicitly sexual drawing.

>>45942934
Ah yes, I forgot about the "fucked silly" part.

>>45942934
Catbox is down. What's this?

>>45942964
Works fine for me anon.

>>45942964
Pretty sure it's your IP having issues connecting to the site. I'll have days where catbox just randomly stops working, but switching to phone data lets me use it again fine.

>>45933535
Saved an Ayayayayaya

>>45939657
>>45940591
Thank you, and nice cover, gave me a laugh.
I don't use REAPER (I use FL 21) but thank you for the plugins, I'm definitely going to use Trackspacer in my mix and maximise it. Fiddling with the EQ is my weakest point and something that I've completely neglected to study but I'm hoping to be able to get by with the plugins filling in for my weaker spots... maybe.
Your cover sounded really good, though, both mixing-wise and in general. Thanks again.

>>45944976
Thanks, I don't get much time to sing or real vocal practice so it's nice that it's not completely botched.
All the IzoTope plugins come with a lot of nifty features, but they also have a ton of presets that can help you along.
Of course, you can also manually add EQ within them and such, so you can learn from the presets as to what can help get you different sounds.
I have a pretty strong rig for running this stuff, but if you don't, don't forget to render your audio with FX so it doesn't constantly need to turn the raw sound into the better sound even when you know it's good.
Melodyne is really powerful for mucking with vocal timings, so if you want to fix small stuff or even autotune things it's good. I'm not using it right now tho, maybe next time if I'll cover Eurobeat or something.

Color pencil is pretty kino ngl
(I also used a bit of watercolor)

>>45945064
Also
>Nectar
Mostly meant for vocals and vocal processing. Want your stuff to soubd like it's behind a wall or more like an audiobook? This is your plugin.
>Neutron
Something better fit for mucking with the general sound of a stem. This should help you with primarily with your instruments, but it does have a few presets for vocals too.
>Ozone
A mastering plugin. It and its features are really good for getting a "final touch" on things, but if your stems aren't fixed up by other stuff it's mostly just changing how loud it is.

As for the rest, VocalSynth is probably the coolest plugin since you can make all sorts of weird stuff happen to vox that you put in.

>>45945142
There's a new plugin they have called Audiolens that I also kind of wanna try. It lets you analyze sound aspects in audio you like so you can replicate it. Gonna try it tomorrow I think.

>>45945132
The blush perfected her.

>>45935267
Cute

>>45888703
Finished main color

>>45942934
I've considered trying to draw porn beyond just naked girls but every time it just feels weird.

>>45957318
Draw naked boys, problem solved.

Junko wip I'm very slowly chipping away at.

N-neigh?
https://files.catbox.moe/7pau6i.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mb13u5.png

>>45962927
This is 100% canon.

>>45962927
I want to smack-it

>>45962927
Great looking cawk but ejaculation is simply too small. You should at least tripple the volume.

>>45922186
Absolutely not.
Image compression.
They can be fickle with content, one day you wake up and your Twitter has been deleted.
Pixiv is good, though you need to censor everything.
I did like Newgrounds but those fucknuts now made their images webp, iirc.

>>45966811
Fucknut here, tell me why webp is bad.

i made marisa and rumia in ms paint the other night. it was fun! (ignore marisas sleeves that was a missed steak on my part)

>>45966825
NTA but unless you're using special extensions to turn them into PNGs they're hard to download for image viewing, reupload or image editing.

>>45962927
So she is a two pump chump huh?

>>45938888
She reminds me of Sawako from K-On.

>>45962927
I'm glad to see this

>>45960240
It's a well thought composition. I will be awaiting the finished outcome

>>45967001
Her arm is too thin. It was well hidden with the sleeve on but sleeveless it's too much

wip
https://files.catbox.moe/jmj9bw.png

>>45972336
Why is Miko leaking cum out of his butt if he's the only one with a penis in this picture?

>>45972541
That's ball sweat you doofus

>>45972560
NTA but he is kinda right. It certainly looks weird to me too. Like if it were sweat it would be smaller, right now it looks like it's cum either oozing from he balls themselves(wtf) or from down there

Dayum we are going full /d/, I drew the parsee in the request thread, just thinking of what to draw now

>>45975214
Draw Kana with wide hips

>>45975214
Tell me about it, im drawing so much /d/ stuff recently i barely have anything to post here.
So here are fluffballs.

>>45930979
>> Anything above 900x900 res will be compressed to shit.
While Xitter does change the image's internal workings even in the name=orig resolution whereas Pixiv preserves the original state, a 1920x1080 .jpg MMD render with a noise effect is visually indistinguishable from the source to the point WinMerge calls them identical, which is not the case for slightly compressed CSP exports. If you have a decent monitor, though, you can zoom in and switch between images to notice a miniscule difference in brightness or tint, though that could in theory be an illusion.

>>45972336
Alchemy has gone too far...

I can't draw good unless I look at a reference, what do i do?

>>45985345
Look at references of *thing* until you learn to draw *thing* without them

Replace for anything. A hairstyle? Braids? Tits? Trees? The more complex *thing* is, the more time it will take.

>>45985345
Unless I stop drawing them completely for several months, I tend to remember my references (unless the character is very very complex to draw) after drawing them 4 or so times.

>>45985345
literally draw more. can you atleast visualize an apple in your mind?

>>45989557
All of them

>>45985345
Use the AI, learning to draw in the post-AI era is a waste of time.

Morning mood

>>45996055
RAPE

>>45986683
can I use other artists' drawings as a reference?
>>45988065
I can remember the character (sometimes) but I can't come up with a good pose
>>45991505
>can you at least visualize an apple in your mind?
yeah, I think, but I can't visualize a character doing a certain pose
>>45992194
1. it's fun to try and learn something challenging (if that makes any sense)
2. My dream is to create a manga, ai won't help

>>45997242
>can I use other artists' drawings as a reference?
why not?
i tend to lab using other artist's stuff as references, then once I've done it enough to remember I sometimes visit the sketches/drawings I liked best to "cement it" in my style or something like that
then for posing you can just reference an actual 3d model or IRL pose.

>>45997242
If you can visualize an apple you can visualize a pose, what you lack is the information. Apples are much more simple and you've see then more than people posing. If you want to be a hipster then buy one of those posable dolls to practice or just search for pics of people posing on the internet and start drawing them, learning anatomy also helps alot.

>>45997242
I would not recommend using other drawings as references until you gain more skill. You won't learn how a real body moves or works by looking at drawings, you'll learn it much better by using references of real people. I think using drawings as references is a bad habit that should be avoided unless you're making a parody drawing or something along those lines.

>>46000900
Sorry about the accidental sage, it autofilled from my last post

>>46000900
eh, using a reference to learn a design is still alright
It's not like it'll be too late to learn "proper form" just cause you went an easy route first.

I drew the crow tengu Aya Shameimaru laying eggs. https://files.catbox.moe/3cuo3i.png
I'm not familiar with using catbox or 4chan so I hope I got it right. I'm uploading it here due to recommendation of an anon on the NEET thread.

I drew this because I saw some people online seem to jokingly request it, and I wanted to see how they'd react. They seemed to genuinely like it and followed me for a while, but later ended up blocking me once I got too annoying for them. This made me mad.

I put quite a lot of thought into this piece. Most people would expect this to be nothing but voyeuristic, so I tried to make it more tender instead. I'm not sure I succeeded. I put Rikako here as well, since Aya looked lonely going through the pain of egg-laying alone and Rikako made sense as she could be a midwife. Most of the other crow tengu hate Aya so it wouldn't make sense to put them it. I spent quite a while thinking about what to put on the headboard of the bed. I thought about having things related to the four seasons since Aya carries a big autumn leaf but it didn't work out since I'm not very familiar with drawing trees. I ended making things related to a god of the wind since Aya's theme is wind god girl: the feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl, his wind jewel, and some wind.

>>46001510
tldr, please don't quit your day job

>>46001548
? When did I mention having a day job?

How do you shade hair? / What is most efficient way to shade hair, especially in CSP?
I swear Ibis Paint blur tool just made drawing hair so easily.

>>46004370
(Continue) I prefer drawing hair like this

>>46004406
you prefer to draw hair strand by strand? good god that would take forever

>>46011096
Actually here is better example. Not necessary semi realistic but more real than anime hair (a middle between). I also worry about character with monotone hair color (i.e. black) as they hair have less color variety, semi realistic strategy dont work on them either.

>>45960240
Inks done, I wanted to draw her a bit cuter but I defaulted to my normal style part-way in

>>45969405
thanks anon
>>45985345
You know who uses references? All your favorite artists that's who

>>46017528
Very cute und cozy!

I bought a set of Sakura pigma fineliners since i've been practicing some trad drawings. I want to be way bolder with hatching and shading and lineweight eventually but for a first drawing with them I think it's good enough.

>>45972336
https://files.catbox.moe/nt8m3d.png
finally done
I'm SPENT

>>46023402
Good drawing. I have busted one just for this one. Congrats.

>>46000900
I've been drawing references of real people for 2 years now and I still can't draw without references and I haven't improved at all, I always get the proportions wrong and they just feel wrong all time and the worst part is in every tutorial the artist goes
>hey guys first thing here's the proportion of the human body
>*proceeds to ignore it for the next 12 hours*
I'm so tired of this and I'm starting to hate drawing

>>46024184
It's ok anon, some people are born with the talent to draw and some aren't.
Pic related, he decided on a whim to draw just for kicks and after 100 days he already mogs 99% of /ic/ and their retarded methods like muh boxes, muh Loomis and muh Pr*ko. Pewdiepie is a good example of being naturally talented at drawing, he didn't need to draw hundreds of ugly old 1940s men, muh hyper realistic skeletons or thousands of stupid boxes.

>>46024322
pewdiepie just draws 3/4 anime faces though, they look really impressive but it's pretty limiting
what's REALLY fucking impressive to me is how quickly he got to coloring like that, that shit is insane

>>46024322
Well, i usually take like a month to finish one crappy drawing... but i guess it would be better to constantly draw doodles and sketches, right?

>>46024322
Shut the fuck up and stop spreading lies

>>46024521
pyw

>>46024532
I drew the big dick Miko

>>46024322
Pewds had serious background in photoshop. He's talented? Sure, but he's just drawing one thing, has good work ethic, has some similar adjacent skills, doesn't has to worry about money, etc.

Draw what you like, apply a critical eye to what you draw, and try to improve too over your previous drawings. Don't be afraid of failure. Of being told "this and this and this looks like shit". Some anons here draw the same thing over and over and over because it's their comfort zone and never push themselves further. If you just draw to relax that's perfectly fine, but if you want to improve you need to push yourself

Don't compare yourselves to others, compare yourselves to the you from a month before, from a year before, and if you don't notice an improvement, try changing how you learn stuff. We can all make it. No one here is Chris chan levels retarded.

Yey, I finally drawed something for the first time since November. :DDD

>>46017528
>>46019516, but that perspective has me all confused-nigga-like.

>>46024322
>It's ok anon, some people are born with the talent to draw and some aren't.
so should I just kill myself and give up?
>muh boxes, muh Loomis and muh Pr*ko.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 2 YEARS

>>46011457
It still is strand by strand, but it takes less forever.

A way to make drawing stuff easier (and kind of fun) is to try and draw in a way that makes your mind fill in the blanks. Then if you want to go further, you just try over and over to fill in what you imagined ontop of it.

I realized I never drew blue Reisen, so I decided to draw her.
>>46025082
I wanted it to look dream-like, but I guess it just ended up looking weird aaaah

>>46029727
Where is her sniper rifle?

>>46030361
Up her bum

>>46023402
nice saggers ma'am

I started a very basic sketch of Flandre Scarlet in the special education quiet room I mentioned in the NEET thread. I have a lot of trouble completing my work so please harass me if you want the finished work to see the light of day. I've spent maybe ten or fifteen minutes on it thus far.

>>45879101
Funny you say that, because I decided to learn how to draw after playing around with AI for a couple of weeks.

>>45879101
AI is very good at coloring but it's still way too nonsensical in its basic composition. Even da cream of da crop AI generations still have a crap ton of tells, there is always random lines and bits and pieces that make no sense. Usually it's in the finer details like the background, clothing folds, etc. So even if it gets the hands and face 100% right, there will always be something else wrong with the image. The fat AI Yukari in the hag thread OP is a good example, at first glance the image looks normal but if you actually look at the details it's just another fucked up looking AI image.

>>45870971
> All OC is welcome!
I'll take you up on that.
I started drawing two days ago.

>>45881016
>mom framed it
absolutely adorable.
I'm adding "good enough that my parents like it" to my artist journey roadmap!

I'm an absolute beginner wanting to learn the basics firmly before I move on, so sorry if this is a retarded question..

When you make this initial sketch with a circle and the crossed lines, as pictured, where on the circle do I start the jawline?
I feel like I do it completely at random currently, and my results vary between "so good I saved the piece of paper" and "so bad I crossed it out and shut my sketch book for the day".
Should it start somewhere relative to the eye height?

>>45892522
considering the artstyle for some of the Magic the Gathering cards is officially known as "anime cards" or "cards with art in anime style" I'd say it's within boundaries.

>>45871295
cool!

Kagerou

>>46023402
https://files.catbox.moe/nt8m3d.png

>>46036244
>wanting to learn the basics firmly
Posting while slacking off at work so I can't draw anything here but, Steve Hustons's beginner course is what you want. Teaches you everything you need to get going, watch the vids and copy what he draws as he goes and memorize it.

It might look very different to "anime" stuff but trust me it all applies just the same.

>>46039173
it feels like a general theme is to start the jawline a tad above the line that decides the ear/eye height, i'm gonna try to focus on that today. thanks for the suggestion anon!

>>46031817
finish your drawing

>>46036244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYWnfJDxfts&list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7Z&index=7
This guy explains how to do it for several types of characters.

>>46036244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYWnfJDxfts&list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7Z&index=7
This guy explains how to do it for several types of characters.
He also has an entire playlist where he teaches how to draw faces.

Last page of this drawing book, its over

>>46044932
I've been through 10 and a half

>>46044958
Yeah, gonna go grab another

>>46044932
Very nice Sanny.
>>46037544
And thats is cute doggo.

>>46043640
no! I'm too tired from work

>>46030536
if i scope in would i be able to see her stomach?

Cactus.

>>46055392
Literal Cactus Energy

is yume nikki /jp/ related?

>>46055392
>>46056170
Kek, guess makai got some better energy than hell's nuclear fusion.
>>46055711
Absolutely adorable.
>>46056216
Yes, don't think it fits any board better,

mokou-tan on paint

Orange but Kotohime like hair kinda. With her palette swapping color maybe she can be the emergency lights for Koto's car(cloud).
>>45960240
>>46014602
Nice composition and nice hands, didn't expect her to look that tired tbf, but it's looking really good.
>>46035924
Pretty good for day 2 to be fair.
>>46024184
>>46025331
I think that what works best is to just focus on what you want to draw in particular for starters, fundamentals help but if those practices bore or annoy you they might be counterproductive.
Anatomy/proportions depend on artstyle, pc98 ZUNstyle is peak fuck anatomy for example. And heck if you look at real people you'll see that proportions vary, doing them aprox is usually enough as long as you don't have internal inconsistency like one arm being longer.

https://files.catbox.moe/vq35mb.jpeg

>>46063214
VERY nice

>>46063214
That's amazing but who's that character?

>>45870971

>>46067895
Anon...

>>45870971
>All OC is welcome
If you say so

>>46055711
Always nice to see your bunnies.

anyone do animations or have any animations to post?

Can I confess here a sin?
The more I know about drawing, the more I want to follow non-Touhou artists (and boobs) and the less I follow Touhou artists.
Even for Touhou artists, unless they draw really interesting style (and boobs) I would unfollow them.
It seems to me that Touhou arts had become stagnant and generic, spoiled by anime style of Tasforo and Manpukujinya, reinforced by waves of gacha. Ever since Moe Harukawa, Touhou scene no longer produce great artstyle.

>>46076668
On the contrary I think there's a greater variance of styles by Touhou artists than pretty much any "anime style" scene, especially the gacha one.

>>46076769
Of course in quantity alone, Touhou would have greater variance compare to other, for example Fate. I think I still can count more than 100 artists with really unique style and great skill.
The problem is that other franchise had very good "official" style to begin with, so they really outperform other low level entry Touhou artist with Lostword style. And not to mention OCs. I swear the best artist I ever see out there are all drawing their OCs.

>>46076668
>>46077198
I think this is a bad opinion. Most of the gacha out there have fanart that's incredibly similar to the original style to the point where it all looks the same. In contrast, the original style in Touhou is so bad(sorry SOVL enjoyers) that any interpretation you come up with will be better than the original. Then you get WAY more differences in artstyle and quality among the art pool for the series since people are not encouraged to look close to the original. Sure the official manga gave some floor to Touhou art too, but even then it's still very varied

If what you like is generic gacha art with well rendered boobs, then I unironically think Touhou is not the series for you. There will be great artist drawing titties sure, but also way more variety overall. You like what you like, after all. Be honest with yourself and realize what's what you truly like

>>46077254
This is from an artist I follow

>>46077254
>>46077429
(Continue) This appeared in my newsfeed and actually slightly pass, but I choose to not follow. The artist have literall 100 of Eirin drawing with slightly variant quality and slightly emotion.

Guys... How do any of you non-lewd artists cope with your lack of views and engagement? It honestly just makes me angry when I see a terrible, lazy artist shit out garbage and it gets 10k+ views on Pixiv just for being fetish fuel, when some absolutely amazing SFW artists I follow will paint a beautiful, thought out work of art and only get 100 views. I know that men don't give a fuck about art that doesn't help them masturbate, but god damn. Sometimes the state of the art world online legit makes me depressed.

>>46077583
I draw for myself first and foremost
And I'm happy enough if a single stranger likes my drawing anyway

>>46077583
By not giving a fuck about social media clout in the first place. It's only sad for you because that's your motivation and how YOU value things intrinsically. "This has more likes, it's more popular, so it should be better"

>I know that men don't give a fuck about art that doesn't help them masturbate, but god damn.
That's quite a mean and generalizing comment considering
1) Most of those old beautiful paintings of landscapes were drawn by men.
2) Women produce and consume a lot of shitty coom content too.

That super good artist you see probably sees harvesting social media views and likes, as a complete waste of time. Why should he do that when he can just go draw and paint? Social media is a huge gains goblin but some people only see value in art when it provides them with likes and views and seeing number go up, instead of the quality and self-improvement and realization that comes along with art gains.

Your motivations don't have to be pure, but also don't think other people should value the same things as you.

>>46077847
>That's quite a mean and generalizing comment considering
Oh, whatever, stop being so fragile. You know it's true that men consume coom content more than women, and you damn well know that the only reason old masterpieces were painted by men is because women weren't really allowed to paint. Go read Arte. It just makes me feel sad for artists who work hard and paint beautiful works but get no engagement, you don't need to insinuate anything about me just because I'm commenting on it.

>>46077847
Artists know each other and engage others work so when someone get barely 100 engagement like that anon said, he is not well recognized.
Your reply are just like "why get a chick if I can just fap?"

>>46078068
>>46078221
See this is what I mean. All you are seeing is that the prize, the big endgame, is "number go up". When people that don't engage in social media shenanigans and pandering don't even care about that. They don't want recognition and it means nothing to them.

On the other side you have the grifters that just draw FotM coom and don't have a single original thought in their head. To them the whole endgame is maximizing followers and likes, and drawing decently is just another thing they must do to attain that. They see the other guy as wasted talent. Why draw so good if he's barely going to nurture his social media engagement?

Most people fall in the middle of both these extremes. They want to draw the things they like and want to improve, but they also want more people to see it, and also think likes feel good, so they reach a middle point of drawing what they like but also pandering a bit.

I see what you both mean, but those kind of super good artist that have almost no social media following have completely different values to most people. I don't pity them. I admire them. If only I could be like that too and dedicate myself purely for the sake of art and not external validation

>>46077583
>It honestly just makes me angry when I see a terrible, lazy artist shit out garbage and it gets 10k+ views on Pixiv
lmao wait until you see the AI generated stuff that gets 100k+ views and worse, the fuckers that open patreons for AI generated art and get plenty of subscribers.

Honestly I prefer drawing comedic content over coom content.

>>46078894
>fuckers that open patreons for AI generated art and get plenty of subscribers.
Wait, that's a thing?
I think I'll do that. I can stop being a neet with almost 0 effort.

>>46078997
What about both?

>>46077583
Watch porn. Srsly, it works.

>>46085116
I do not watch porn. Nor do I masturbate.

>>46080371
>>46081772
Very cute, I love 2hu costume swaps

>>46086275
Are you a girl?
I mean a real one.

>>46086275
Any kind of entertaiment help you disengage from draw and relieve stress also works.

>>46080371
cute detail on tewi being embarassed. for someone that usually wears a baggy dress, wearing a somewhat tight one piece should feel very different
you should colour it

Cakey

>>46088062
Neat!

>>46086549
Sadly yes.
>>46087718
I'm happy someone noticed her being embarrassed. Tsukasa's romper is quite lewd.

Star Sapphire if she was goth

I got into a loop of the eyes looking good, then bad and then good again so I'm not sure what to think of it. Also did one with IN looking colors >>46090444
>>46089289
Those are some really adorable cats.
>>46090065
There's usually a "loser" in cloth swapping and it's not gonna be the youkai youngster(less than 1000 years).

>>45871150
Very nice

help, how can i translate the arm joints into actual arms? if i just remove the joint the arm looks very off

>>46099366
Remove them and force your way through until they look good.

>>46099366
you need to learn some basic anatomy, theres tons of videos of people doing something similar to what youa re doing and turning these mannequins into good drawings but they already know their shit, in your case it's obvious you are lacking anatomy, so go study that you are gonna be guessing how shit should look rather than going straigh to it, once you know your anatomy or whaever even a fucking scribble is enough to use as a base, your brain will fill the gaps later, in this case it cant, because you lack the information that's why it looks off but yet you don't know why.

i wouldn't be doing these dolls as a base they are good for practice to study basic forms but you need to study anatomy and using these basic forms to construct sopmething more detailed, the more you practice the less you will relay on it, til you will only need some basic bitch doodle as a sketch for your final lineart.

Sakuya took her pads off on valentines day for you

>>46099366
I know nothing, zero, nada about anatomy or using bases/mannequins and I sketched this in ten minutes. My method is brute forcing it like >>46099503 said, but >>46100847's advice is very good and more proper. Some people's brains just don't work that way though, you have to figure out what works for you and the only way to do that is trial and error.

>>46099366
Look for pictures online until you find an arm roughly in the same pose.
I have a poser program I sometimes use if I get confused. I also taught myself a general rule that each arm starts wider than it begins (sort of), so you can basically draw an arm's "outline" by making 4 different lines and brute forcing it from there instead of making a joint right away.

>>46099366
Can't you just look at your arm and figure out how it works?

>>46105343
>I know nothing, zero, nada about anatomy or using bases/mannequins and I sketched this in ten minutes

That's called natural talent, good for you not falling for the "you have to draw hundreds of hyper realistic old men to be come good at drawing cute anime girls" scam /ic/ tards peddle. I'm on the same camp, I will never ever draw a single m*nnequin.

>>46108725
>"you have to draw hundreds of hyper realistic old men to be come good at drawing cute anime girls"
It's crazy how different this is from how Japanese artists teach how to draw cute anime girls.

>>46105081
Big Sakuya is best Sakuya. Keep drawing more beeg Sakuya, please.

>>46109455
I'm getting to the point to where I'm just down for drawing any boobhus of any size (that I can handle)

>>46109062
But then again, Japs have insane levels of natural talent, take a look at any "kids draw Touhou" art contest and Japanese toddlers that don't know wtf is a Loomis mog 99% of adult western beginners.

>>46108725
>>46109062
That must be why so many westoid artists have the worst art styles ever.

>>46109556
NTA but I think it has to do with their written language, you need to practice a lot for those lines to stop looking like random scribbles into an actual written language. Also, given the fact that if you write a certain line in a certain way it means something completely different than if you write the same line in a completely different length.

>>46109062
I haven't thought of it that way but it makes a lot of sense when you bring it up.

>>46109062
how different is it?

>>46108725
Thanks for saying so, I have some latent natural talent for sure but it's not much compared to Japs. This ability is an accumulation of thousands of hours of on-and-off practice. In middle school when I began drawing, I would exclusively copy anime art I liked and re-draw it by looking at it, and continued that habit all throughout high school until I gained the ability to draw on my own. I've never once drawn an old man or a base. Here's a drawing from eighth grade.

>>46112498
They seem to be more concerned with whether or not the picture looks appealing, instead of focusing on realistic anatomy. They also seem to be of the opinion that you should learn to draw what you want, and not draw realistic men when you want to learn how to draw anime girls.
For example, I've seen them talking about how long and sharp the chin should be based on whether you're drawing an ikemen, girl or a chibi character; Making a girl's legs longer than they are irl will make her look better; How big the head should be compared to the body depending on how old you want your character to look; If you're looking at real life references for specific parts (e.g. hands), don't draw them too realistic or it'll clash with the rest of the picture.
They also give different advices for depending on whether your drawings are realistic or manga style. They also teach how to draw mannequins and dividing the body in cubes, but they never say it's required, they just say it's a technique that can help you.
There's also a lot of stuff like how to make your lines look good, shading, coloring eyes, etc.

name me drawing tablet you guys are using
I am about to buy myself one

>>46114136
wacom PTH860

>>46114136
currently have a wacom one (CTL472K1A)
used to have a huion 420 and it was kinda shit

>>46114136
Cintiq Pro 24, no really. I regret it. It's too big. Should have gone for the 16" one

>mfw i learned how to draw by fusing ben 10 aliens and found my artstyle after watching ben 10 omniverse for a long ass time
>mfw i ended up with a style that is an unholy fusion between east and west style
>mfw it looks decent enough

It pains me every time I see a newcomer force himself to swallow entire books just to learn when that will just burn them in the long run, how do you even teach someone to draw? What kind of advice do you give someone that is starting to learn? Besides the whole "practice and be constant" thing.

>>46114136
xp-pen 15, the pens are pretty cheap and replaceable

>>46114136
Wacom CTL4100.
It's the only one I've ever used, so I have no frame of reference to tell if it's good or bad. Although with my drawing skills, I doubt a more expensive table would make a difference.

>>46114136
CTE-650!

>>46115361
I want my money back nigger

>>46109556
>culture that has had thousands of years of writing thousands of accurate enough cuneiform characters on sheets of paper is also insanely good at drawing

did you know water is wet too?

>>46114136
mouse only

>>46115013
it depends a lot on your goals, do you want to get gud faster well you gotta grind lots of stuff and how much and for how long will be up to you.
For example in the left pic its your averague beginner for most people this isn't that bad and even some might say it's very good, on the Right you have something that it's indisputable very good, can the right drawing be only achievable by grinding 24/7 books and whatnot, nope you can get at that level without ever reading a book, tutorial or something of that matter but the time it will take you could be years.

So when a begginner usually asks how do i get gud like ''x'' , i think the proper answer or direction would be what it's their goal and time frame to achieve it, drawing for imagination will take years without studying the source of your subject, but it would be way shorter if you study them and even shorter in you dedicate your time solely to do that.
Theres ton's of ways to learn how to draw, referencing, tracing, copying, stdying from books or just drawing. But the time and results will vary between them.

>>46115696
>in the left pic its your averague beginner

I've been feeling incredibly tired recently due to work, but hopefully I can get back into the DOS dimension this weekend.

>>46115891
if you put yourself together with a lot of other people you will become the average

so everyone please draw and post in this thread to help anon become the average!

>>46109455
Stay warm this winter~

>>46115696
>left pic its your averague beginner

>>46115013
Just draw but just as importantly learn how to improve/analyse and what to work on. Alot of mistakes beginners make can easily be fixed when you just look over at it and go "what look's off and why does it look off." The harder stuff is when you deviate towards stylism and have to bend the line of what looks off.

>>45877594
I copy their style to a tee, and then add it to mine.

R8 my zunart

>>46118189
feet/10

>>46118189
Golden dawn chan...
Nice design but the lines aren't sharp enough in some places like the face to get the ZUN art feeling.

Sanae sketch from a few weeks back.
>>46118189
Good zurt.

>>46118189
Hm, it's a decent attempt but no one would notice that it's ZUN style without you telling them it is. I would say 5/10, you're like halfway there; get it to the point where people will know what you're trying to do without them being told through tags or the description.

>>46118189
I decided to edit your drawing a little to show you how to make it more ZUNy. I'm not an expert on ZUN style, but I have been trying to learn it recently. Hopefully you can see what I did here. My tips: curlier hair, bigger head (his style is VERY chibi adjacent), no thick eyebrows, eyes wider apart, blush, and use a smaller pen for the facial features.

>>46115512
very impressive, post me your mouse then

>>46118367
>>46121625
I see what you mean. I think it's because I blocked in the colors before adding the lineart/shading, and ended up leaving the face as it was, which isn't very ZUNish.
Is this a little better?
>>46121901
The eyebrows and the dark circles were an intentional choice (considering who she's based on) but your other tips are on point (and you're right, I didn't do a very good job cleaning up.)

>>46115512
tits not big enough

>>46122421
I understand, however ZUN doesn't draw thick eyebrows or eyebags. You have to conform to how he does things if you want it to have a more ZUNy feel. Then you can just draw her normally when you aren't doing his style.

Wip. I have no fucking idea what I'm doing so any comment or criticism is appreciated. https://files.catbox.moe/wfh024.png

>>46115696
Haha that left one is mine ;_;

>>46124659
>Haha that left one is mine ;_;
there's nothing terrible about it, it's fine, it could be better for sure but it's not super bad.

>>46122604
Anon with Gyno.

i'm trying to get used to using the drawing tablet i got

decided to try and brute force it until it looked "passable". also did it black and white because it was mostly a practice drawing. but still did some shading though. also the "3" mouth has become a bit of a clutch for me because i kinda suck at drawing regular mouths lol

Chkn God wip based on a photo of a really cool Japanese rooster I found
I've never done anything with any significant amount of trees/plants, so it's been fun figuring this out

>>46126637
Looks pretty alright as a starter. Good work.

>>46126886
Ooooh, this one looks neat. I'll have to look up Japanese roosters now. I've been getting into drawing backgrounds lately and it is SO much fun. They take extra time to do, sure, but it's worth it.
>>46126637
Looks good to me! Black and white is always a great choice. And I love the 3 mouth. Classic moeblob cutie mouth. I always draw it on my husband when I draw him.

>>46119605
such a free careless happy slut
also cute snek

>>46119605
teh Sanners if she Ren&Stimpy

>>46119605
I really like your artstyle

Tried multiple walking poses for Mokou. This one looked the funniest.