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Poor Sumireko Edition

▶What is this?
/egg/ — Era Games General; also known as “Era games thread”
Era games are a group of (usually) Japanese-developed text porn games.
They’re not exclusively related to the Touhou franchise, but it’s one of the series with the most era games.

▶Games usually discussed here
eraTohoTW — Comfy Touhou dating simulator with time stop shenanigans.
eraTohoK — Tactical game about conquering Gensokyo through any (absolutely any) means.
eraMegaten — Dungeon crawler based on the Shin Megami Tensei series, with tons of characters from other series (Fate, Touhou, Madoka, etc) included.

▶Useful Links
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Main_Page
Guides and downloads for all era games. For TW you should get the eng-development version, eng-release is several years old
>https://seesaawiki.jp/eraseries/..
Japanese wiki.
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/bugreport.php
Report any bugs you find over here.
>https://rentry.org/TW-Idea-List
Compilation of development suggestions for TW.

▶Games
>https://gitgud.io/era-games
Git repository that has latest official builds to any of the games, you can sometimes find more recent versions than the ones on the wiki.
>https://gitgud.io/Legis1998/anon-tw/-/releases/
Git repository for a fork of eraTohoTW maintained by the /egg/ community.

▶Tools
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Sugoi
Automatic translator which copies text straight from the game. Comes with an optional customized built-in offline model.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VHNkRLrIXUbZBaD1ETHDqowfzk3GZ21b/view
Direct link for the latest version of Sugoi.
>http://madhammer.club/files/era-updater.7z
Fetches the latest version of TW, K or Megaten from the official git, no login needed.

▶How to play?
Run anchor.exe (or Emuera, depending on the game), Japanese locale is advised so you don’t run into untranslated text.
If you wish to manually update, delete old files aside the sav and dat folders to avoid any bugs.

▶Tips
If you’d like to either edit or add your own portraits, the files are located within the ‘resources’ folder in webp format. You can use paint.net to edit them.

>> No.45880625
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Yandere update when

>> No.45880626
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>>45880616
Sex with 24 year olds who were born in 1999!

>> No.45880633

/egg/ is cringe

>> No.45880655
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>>45880633
This. /egg/ is filled with whiners complaining at the mere suggestion that not every character should be a carbon copy.
Anyone who tries to add unique content gets yelled at by a gaggle of shitposters.
I bet none of them even play the game.

>> No.45880668

>>45880655
>by a gaggle of shitposters.
It's literally one guy.

>> No.45880683

>>45880668
Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's like, two dudes at most.

>> No.45880684

>>45880668
If only that were the case. Everybody here seems to hate JPAnon for no discernible reason. I wonder which fork has to gain from such behavior?

>> No.45880688

>>45880655
>not a new IP

>> No.45880689
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45880689

>>45880655
People touched a nerve, eh? It's not a good addition.

>> No.45880690

>>45880688
>>45880689
Fuck you.

>> No.45880695

>>45880689
>using sagume to say no
I can't believe you guaranteed that the feature will be added.

>> No.45880699

>>45880655
I like how all he said was that it allows for more custom coding for how you get certain states so that characters can have more complex courting and instead of thinking wow so characters could be more unique, /egg/'s resident autist immediately started thinking about it could be used to ruin his fantasy because he actually just wants cookie cutter generic shit so it can't hurt him

>> No.45880706

>>45880699
Isn't it kind of a stupid thing, too?
The game already has traits that makes certain characters harder to romance.

>> No.45880709

>>45880699
As far as I'm concerned he's a fucking nigger.

>> No.45880708

>>45880699
>not a new IP

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>>45880708
?

>> No.45880713

>>45880695
Isn't Seija the one with that gimmick?

>> No.45880716

>>45880712
Don't mind the shitposter. He's just going to accuse everyone in favor of JPAnon as being a what he himself is.

>> No.45880720

>>45880712
Probably just the other guy I accused of not being a new IP getting pissed and trying to falseflag by copying what I said.

>> No.45880724

>>45880713
Nah, Seija is just generally a contrarian and can reverse things on the more physical side.
Sagume reverses outcomes.

>> No.45880725

>>45880720
Probably the same faggot to be honest.

>> No.45880732

>>45880720
You're shitting on me, the man who made the thread and who posted the love values revamp? Go makeout with Sleigh and quit whining about superior code.

>> No.45880743

I bet the only one who hates this feature is Sleigh. What are you crying about retard, worried it'll make your harem fantasy too difficult to pull off? Lol, lmao.
Get fucked. We the people demand unique traits and in-character fall states.

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>We the people

>> No.45880759

>>45880750
Go ahead and put it to vote. Lol, as if /egg/ is a democracy, JPAnon is adding it and there's nothing you can do about it.
He shouldn't pay heed to shitposters like you and your posse.

>> No.45880762

He now has spun around his point completely while still maintaining a similar writing style, with the same intent to shitpost.
It's best to just ignore him from now on, this nigga is fucking shit at trolling, too obvious. Shot himself in the foot by being too retarded is what he did.

>> No.45880770

>>45880762
I wasn't one of the retards against it in the first place.

>> No.45880781

By the way I think this feature should be upstreamed.8agj

>> No.45880793

>>45880781
Think about how wonderful it would be if Eiki's author could go all in on his puritan depiction (the only correct depiction) of Eiki. That would be pretty baller. And the tears of this tertiary infested thread will be so good.

>> No.45880798

Is this thing actually being developed by jpanon in the first place anyway? I said here >>45880338 it was SIMILAR to what he wanted to do.

>> No.45880804

>>45880798
Cry more little baby. I guarantee you that was a post directly from JPAnon. I can't wait for all your fucks to cope how it wasn't when he unveils his dialogue.

>> No.45880822

Don't worry, JPAnon, I got your back. Don't pay attention to the rabid shitposters in this thread. They don't even play the game, there concerns are unwarranted.
Unique character fall states will add so much life into the game, these spastics are just too retarded to understand the potential. Even if there will be kinks to work out.

>> No.45880846

Go on then. We're all waiting for that poll. Afraid you'll be wrong about how many people hate that idea?

>> No.45880850

Jpanon, why can't you work on shit nobody cares about like the peasant mode? Or a different era game altogether? You can ruin things as much as you want there.

>> No.45880858

>>45880850
No matter how many times tou jump IPs it won't change the fact that you're alone. He's improving the game. If anything, you're the one ruining it by rejecting change.
All things change. Its time you learned to accept it.

>> No.45880872

Reasons to support it:
> unique character interactions
> in-character reactions
> fits canon
Reasons to reject it
> tertiary fee-fees will be hurt if it's added
> muh player agency
> it's "unreasonable" to expect players yo play the damn game

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>> No.45880887

Hello? Is this microphone on? I've got a riveting business deal for the next caller, a way to vis-a-vis procure something you and I both want to negotiate terms over.

>> No.45880899

Fun fact you didn't know about yourself: you succ big pee pee

>> No.45880904

plap sleigh simple as

>> No.45880907

>>45880899
Go away Okina. You lost this argument.

>> No.45880914

>>45880904
Nobody cares about some two bit hack retard. Adults are speaking.

>> No.45880958

>>45880883
>>45880750
Kek

>> No.45880959

Nobody's even given me a single reason why I shouldn't support it.
Lol, lmao, all you prissy little whiners in the thread are bad at this whole persuasion thing.

>> No.45880961

This is going to be a recurring event, isn't it? People criticize a feature, knowing full well that the guy behind it cannot be trusted, only for our favorite resident shitposter number one to vomit up his meds and wage a frenetic counterrevolutionary crusade in its favor.

>> No.45880967

>>45880961
The logical thing to do is to crank up the dosage.

>> No.45880968

>>45880958
There's more where that came from.
>>45880961
More like people here have grown wise to YOUR delusions.

>> No.45880995

>>45880961
He's been at it for ages. He's been clearly defending pop's ideas before too, like the penis thing.

>> No.45881002

Is that you anon? is that me?

>> No.45881007

>>45881002
I’m you.

>> No.45881009

>>45860676
I wonder why.

>> No.45881070

Is the rabid tantrum against JPAnon over? Alright. Now tell me why, exactly, you think it shouldn't be added, disphits.
No fearmongering allowed.

>> No.45881167

>>45881070
Only real thing that worries me about it is:
>yurishitter is writing for popular character
>has no choice but to write the character straight as well since everyone is fuckable
>ENTER AUTHOR CONTROLLED STATES
>yurishitter adds "must be a woman" state to the character
>yurishitter now focus solely on yurishit for his character
>'just disable it bro!'
>re-read 'yurishitter now focus solely on yurishit for his character'
>disabling it does fuck all when there's no content for straight entries getting made

If it's too be added there NEEDS to be a hard NO on adding yuri/futa/straight-only triggers.
You want the player to have to go on dates with the character? Perfectly understandable.
You want the player to have bested the Oni in combat before she'll fuck? Perfectly understandable.
You want the player to be smart for the magician before she'll fuck? Perfectly understandable.

>> No.45881179

>>45881167
>You want the player to have bested the Oni in combat before she'll fuck? Perfectly understandable.
>You want the player to be smart for the magician before she'll fuck? Perfectly understandable.
Neither of those are perfectly understandable.

>> No.45881190

>>45881179
They 100% objectively are. Why wouldn't an Oni want a strong mate?
Regardless, don't like them? Just disable it.
Last (you) you're getting from me you contrarian faggot.

>> No.45881198

>>45881070
You had plenty of reasons in the last thread.

>> No.45881208

>>45881190
You're the one being a contrarian faggot by defending author controlled states like this. Going on dates is reasonable, since that's a typical step in relationships, but making the player have to interact with Danmaku or be forced to study is nothing more than mandatory skill gets. It's a pointless endeavor that doesn't add anything to the game. EX Rank characters already bypass it, so what's being added, exactly?

>> No.45881211

>>45881198
I accept your concession.
>>45881208
Authors > players.

>> No.45881212

>>45881211
Fondle my scrotum.

>> No.45881268

Hecatia isn't some pure maiden who has protected her chastity for millennia, incel cucks. Having standards is what makes a character. Cope and seethe.

>> No.45881273

>>45881167
No one is retarded enough to put in shitty requirements except the Japanese. And the devs have unretarded the Japs' design multiple times already.

>> No.45881275

>>45881273
Tell that to prankfag. He's added several shitty features into the game. I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt.

>> No.45881279

>>45881273
You speak the truth brother.

>> No.45881294

>>45881275
The shittiest pranks are disabled by default, I think.
Not to mention, writers (japanese ones) have already done their dialogue focused on yurishit even without this feature.
A big part of Cirno's dialogue is hidden if you don't play as a Dayousei, but in the English side that's toggeable.
One of the three fairies has a lot of the dialogue hidden between the player being a child. That is toggleable here.

>> No.45881301

>>45881294
Almost forgot, Eiki's strict yama-sama mode.

>> No.45881302

>>45881294
You're ignoring the elephant in the room, contrarian.

>> No.45881306

>>45881302
I don't see the elephant. Point it out or else you're just bullshitting.

>> No.45881310

Nig nog dark skin shit fuckers, there is no problem with the proposed features. Lollololol "contrarian" this, "contrarian" that, not everyone is so thin-skinned at the fact women have standards.

>> No.45881314

>>45881306
Ignore the spastic retard, he sees empty glasses all around his piss covered room.

>> No.45881317

>>45881306
You've been informed of several reasons why you're addition isn't good, you've just refused to acknowledge them.

>> No.45881329

>>45881317
You're bullshitting, then.
Every concern that you have has been answered multiple times already but you always ask about them again 20 minutes later or you just pretend that there is something else.
>>45881314
It's for the best.

>> No.45881337

>>45881329
Got it, it's back to sticking your head in the sand and waving away concerns as nonexistent. You're agreeing with the shitposter by the way.

>> No.45881339

>>45881329
It's not like any of the additions are bad anyway, I don't understand why rhe pranks are toggled, the harem toggle is what's offensive. Authors matter more than players. Always have, always will. These dipshits just want an excuse to be upset at the magnificence of female characters in games having standards.

>> No.45881346

>>45881337
Nobody is even working on that feature, retard.

>> No.45881347

>>45881337
the shitposter doesn't even agree with himself you retard

>> No.45881350

>>45881346
We'll see about that.

>> No.45881354

>>45881337
I've not shatpost a single time today, spastic. I've been very clear about my stance regarding custom author fail states. It's a great feature that adds standards-based interactivity to 2hus.

>> No.45881355

>>45881347
I dunno chief, he's been consistent today.

>> No.45881365

>>45881355
not really
he already did a 180 on the feature itself
you also missed these >>45878242 >>45878263 >>45878750 schizoposts in a row

>> No.45881371

>>45881365
None of those are me, retard.

>> No.45881372

>>45881365
Are you certain he's done a 180? It doesn't seem like he has.

>> No.45881391

>>45881372
>>45880338 and then look at >>45880822, not to mention he tries to somehow pin it on another name that he hates with >>45880684 and >>45880743

>> No.45881402

>>45881391
I'm still not buying it. The first post seems natural.

>> No.45881404

>>45881372
Just for you, I'll do a 180 360 ollie tre flip no scope. Ahem. Uwu papa Sleigh shoot your goo all over my leet cunny wunny rabbit pussy. That good enough for you?
Nobody hates this feature. Cope.

>> No.45881405

>>45881273
Yeah but consider
Parsee - for example - will now never fall in love with you just by you passing by her bridge every day, you must go on a date with her. It kinda kills the "dense harem protag" fantasy angle. And gives authors very strict control over your experience, just like the fiasco about Sumireko being unable to be a sex friend or whatever that was. So if you want the 2hu to I dunno, initiate the whole relationship despite her basic dialogue just not really accounting for that(but still having a ton of lines for every action, love confession, sex etc) it will always expect you to do the thing author wanted.
Think, what if the author doesn't want you to have sex with a girl before love, but you can push her down just fine during yearning, or she can do it herself. It's just like some dialogues assuming you want to rape everything in timestop, except now it's gonna actually impact your gameplay and lock you in/out of routes. I think that's not really what this game is supposed to be about. The freedom in conquering girls is what's great, and they want to have less of it.
Speaking from a different angle - Why *should* it get added? There isn't any room for new unique dialogue, in fact there's less possibilities if every time you get a specific 2hu to love you has to have the same requirement. Like *always* having to beat Yuugi(so no more "weak human meets oni that ends up protecting him"), or *never* getting a hate mark with Chimata(so no "redemption story"), or *having* to learn to play music for Merlin(so you're narratively always forced to be her helper), every time you bite the dust. Do you think every girl needs to be locked to an unique action with her before she falls in love? That's VN styled, close-minded approach.

>> No.45881412

>>45881405
This game would feel more lively if it were a VN.

>> No.45881413

>>45881405
You've raised several good points, now watch as our resident contrarian ignores them.

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>>45881391
That first post is me. I'm not 114-kun, I actually like harems. You dumbass.

>> No.45881419

>>45881414
No way fag, you're clearly 114-kun in disguise! Nobody but the threadshitter can give a critique about this shitty ass feature, no, it clearly must be orchestrated by a lone shitposter who lives in his mother's basement! /s

>> No.45881427

>>45881405
>sumireko's sex friend lock
Not the same thing at all. One is a hard lock, the other one is a condition thing that is meant to be, and is easily, passable. And funnily enough, your biggest worries (or examples) are already doable without this feature.

>> No.45881430

>>45881413
You called it.

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45881437

You know what TW needs? This.

>> No.45881440

>>45881437
Sorry, too busy coding features nobody asked for.

>> No.45881455

>>45881427
That's what you say. Then tell me, why is this feature being worked on in the first place? It looks just like a lock on love until you pass a specific requirement, that nothing else may break. What does it add other than forcing players to play in a specific way?
What if someone plays a run where they do not learn music at all, and want to waifu Merlin who now has a music skill requirement for love? It's breaking player agency.

>> No.45881458

>>45881455
Player agency is a meme.

>> No.45881469

>>45881455
Right, I missed that point.
>what does it add
Adds a bit of texture to a given character. Same as some talents, same as a few dialogue gimmicks.
>what if someone plays a run where they do not learn music at all
Take feedback and put an alternate way around it or let there be a character update toggle like many.

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>>45881458
I'll accept that concession.

>> No.45881472

>>45881469
It's nothing more than a gateway to arbitrary author-enforced bullshit.

>> No.45881476

>>45881470
Accept my cum down your throat.

>> No.45881481

>>45881472
>>45881329
Called it.

>> No.45881486

>>45881469
>Adds a bit of texture to a given character.
There is nothing that it adds that couldn't be added by a few lines in her dialogue. It's just a pointless, arbitrary lock on love status.

>> No.45881487

>>45881481
You're being obtuse on purpose. Locking love until you pass a specific requirement isn't "texture". Texture would be dialogue and unique character commands. Like Flan's Four of a Kind. That's more texture than anything a lock would give you.

>> No.45881490

>>45881486
Nah dude, it's texture. You're just pretending it's something else. I'm not the one moving goalposts, you are!

>> No.45881499

Blathering simpletons here really just want every character to be carbon copies, waifu number 47 should be exactly the same as waofu number 108. Nobody's allowed to make them unique in anyway.

>> No.45881500

>>45881499
That's what dialogue is for, moron!

>> No.45881505

>>45881499
Wow, 108 waifus. Nice harem!

>> No.45881508

>>45881505
EraSuikoden is coming along nicely I see.

>> No.45881516

>>45880616
I don't understand the combat of tentacle-palace.
Why can't it be as simple as GvT?

>> No.45881631

Which flandre dialogue is the best?

>> No.45881638

>>45881631
There one where she destroys your balls.

>> No.45881644

Please play TohoK

>> No.45881647

>>45881631
The /egg/ version currently being worked on.

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>>45881644
I am, I wish the outsider faction have more events other than with Eirin

>> No.45881961

Since I don't come here often I don't understand any of this drama, but I just want to say after painstakingly translating all of the eramaker documentation that 2 nukes wasn't enough.

>> No.45882147

>>45881644
I already do and am

>> No.45882169

>>45881961
What's wrong with the documentation?

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Damn. The Phantom Society took both his human wife and his demon waifu from him. Poor guy.

>> No.45882421

>>45882337
That doesn't seem like normal era game text. What game anon?

>> No.45882537

>>45881961
Working on era games made me at least 5 times more racist against the Japanese.

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>>45880695
>>45880724
holy secondary
Sagume's *words* do that, only the spoken ones
>When she speaks about any particular situation, (particularly to those who are thought to be involved,) that situation will begin to proceed in its opposite way.

>>45882169
it's not the documentation alone, it's Japanese programming """quality""" as a whole

>> No.45882773

>>45882713
Oh I know, but I don't think we've never seen her getting around it by writing and it honestly sounds a bit of a cop out.
So I just consider the "speak" in her omake to be a semantics thing.

>> No.45882778

There is no need to add a hard lock on love. Instead, just give characters a conditional multiplier on Favor/Trust gain. For example, Merlin will appreciate (you) sharing her interest in music, but it's not a dealbreaker for her if you tone-deaf.

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>>45880281
>Would it be possible to do custom fall states with visible requirements, per character? It'd be cool to visualize that stuff
The Japanese recently implemented custom Talents, which could serve as the basis for this, though they're not yet fully implemented and I'm currently fixing those up and expanding them to allow for mouseover descriptions like we use for the common Talents.

Though since these are completely character-specific and not part of general gameplay, I'm not sure their conditions should be listed with the regular fall states. It'd probably be easier to list them on the character's profile text instead.

>> No.45883748

>>45882713
I feel your pain, for some reason hobby-devs from japan write worse codes than the western ones. I wonder why

>> No.45883749

>>45880961
I just play the games, make jokes sometimes and talk about character events and occasionally contribute to minor shit since I know nothing of Touhou.
Maybe you should do the same instead of giving too many fucks about the shitposters and then we wouldn't have to discuss metashit every thread.

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>>45882778
Actually a good idea, I've been thinking if it's possible to include something like that in a character I'm planning
The main stats would get a significant buff for helping with work and high combat skill, and while the former shouldn't be that hard the latter is a different case

>> No.45884974

>>45882778
Was thinking the same as I saw these retards having a meltdown, no need to do in extremes.

>> No.45885568

how do i make this era the world shit easier on the eyes its murdering me

>> No.45885640

>>45885568
Imagine having skill issue on a dating sim

>> No.45885701

>>45885640
were enemy's now

>> No.45885719

>>45885568
Pick one starting area and stick to it until you get used to movement.
When I played it the first time I tried for 20 minutes, got lost and didn't play for an entire year again and only came back to it after getting more familiarized with the UI via TohoK instead.
Oh, and maybe go in the settings to change the map so it's colored instead of the normal one, makes it easier, too.

>> No.45885754

>>45885719
no I mean, I played plenty it literally hurts my eyes to stare at the game for more then 10 minutes, is there like a good settings combo for eye relief

>> No.45885775

>>45885754
Gramps... I don't even know what filters your eyes to begin with, you're gonna have to be more precise.
There's not much that can be changed UI wise, the only real thing to change is the map colors like I said.

>> No.45886016

>>45885754
There's an option to change font and background colors in emuera itself.

>> No.45886650
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nice general you got here

>> No.45886696

>>45886650
Stupid faggot dog.

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I, for one, believe eraTW needs more netorare content.

>> No.45886923

Oh damn, they added trainers you can fight for bug battles?

>> No.45886928

>>45886923
Iirc Vinny wanted to do Touhoumon but with bugs.

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>>45886928
Seems neat, it's buggy as shit though.

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>> No.45887175

The shitposters are up huh?

>> No.45887201

>>45887175
Is it really shitposting to support planned features?

>> No.45887205

>>45887175
>acknowledging him
Why are you like this?

>> No.45887373

Ideas for love conditions for Akyuu?
I'm thinking it will be like this:
If you befriend a fairy she will reject you
Ideas for love conditions for Junko?
If you befriend a Lunarian she will reject you.
Sound good?

>> No.45887435

I think we should quit making threads for a few months it's clear nobody wants actual discussion about planned features

>> No.45887479

>>45887435
if you want that you go to discord
if you want criticism you go to /egg/

>> No.45887537

>>45887479
There is no criticism just baboons shitflinging because girls have standards.

>> No.45887559

>>45887373
Sakuya: must have at least [Love] on both Remilia and Flandre

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>>45887559

>> No.45887570

>>45887559
It should be the opposite. If you have love on her mistresses, she rejects you out of loyalty. A good servant does not cuck her employer.

>> No.45887772

>>45887559
More like if you get love on either you get a boost to Sakuya's favorability.

>> No.45887860

>>45887435
I don't want to discuss them.
Add them and if they're shit I'll say they're shit then.

>> No.45887879

>>45887435
I left for a couple weeks because of the Ran bot but I come back now and its even worse
what the fuck are you people even arguing about? I see a lot of assumptions and screeching about yuri, gating Love, and the general version shitflinging but no one actually saying what the proposed thing is thats caused this

>> No.45887890

>>45887860
Go ahead and explain in full detail why custom love conditions are shit. They're not, but some schizos think they are.

>> No.45887891

>>45887879
JPAnon is desperately trying to get people to accept his love conditions revamp.

>> No.45887898

>>45887890
What did I just tell you?

>> No.45887909

>>45887891
not good enough fucker, I want details
What is being suggested, I don't give a fuck who is doing it

>> No.45887919

>>45887909
Literally just open your eyes. He's posted it twice this thread already.

>> No.45887943

>>45887879
You know what 114-kun is and what he does, and you still act like you need to retread everything. Same with JPanon, you're already aware that he wants to change things up for no reason other than to lock love conditions and that he hates the playerbase.
Everything was explained in this and the last thread, you can look things up yourself. It's free.

>> No.45887948

>>45887919
what, this stuff >>45886950
aside from the completely nebulous Appeal Score which needs to be explained more, this is barely more than whats already in the game
maybe a little excessive on the Date experience needed but if thats all thats causing this then I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people, aside from just leaping at the chance to make monkey noises about a namefag in which case you don't belong here

>> No.45887961

>>45887948
You've been informed several times why forcing the player to interact with mechanics such as combat is utterly retarded, but sure, go ahead, ignore it. It adds nothing to the game.

>> No.45887997

>>45885754
Go to the settings and increase the text size.
Or get a 4k screen, text looks crispy as fuck on it.

>> No.45888060

>>45887961
technically you never have to do combat but you're an idiot if you don't, considering how much you benefit from it
if these changes are being considered differently for every character, it stands to reason that only some would have that as a requirement right?

>> No.45888072

>>45888060
>it stands to reason that only some would have that as a requirement right?
No character should require the player to interact with features they don't want to interact with.

>> No.45888114

>>45888072
bro its a dating sim, characters have different personalities and some would put serious stake in something like this while others wouldn't care
Are you mad that time is a mechanic too and that girls have different schedules? Should everyone always be awake to interact with you?
Is it unfair if characters live in different areas? We should move them all into one featureless room

>> No.45888143

>>45888060
Combat is one example, but you might not want to interact with music, logging, foraging, buying a certain item, collect animals via traps or fulfill some other requirement and be completely locked out of love. Like you can grind a girl for a full year and she will never fall in love with you because you can't or don't want to play an instrument to reflect your own irl skill for self-insertion reasons, for example. This is what it accomplishes.
There is no upside to it all, by the way.

>> No.45888153

>>45888114
You've got to be bullshitting me with how dense you are being right now.

>> No.45888170

>>45888153
I seriously don't understand why "some girls want you to be good at combat" is the hill to die on for this
still waiting on an explanation for that Appeal Score too

>> No.45888189

>>45888170
I seriously don't understand why you think any character should require a bsic fall condition to be locked behind a mechanic. Get it through your skull. The dialogue is what makes characters unique. Fucking with the mechanics isn't a good move.

>> No.45888199

just put it behind a toggle lol
i want toggles on everything

>> No.45888203

>>45887948
>which needs to be explained more
It means you need to take a bath, stinky.

But in all seriousness, it's just a minor mechanic specific to this character that gives minor bonuses with her, and is affected by stuff such a talents, skills, accomplishments, fashion choices, interactions, and so forth, where the likes and dislikes are discovered through interactions with them. It's just something to give her a little flavor and character.

>> No.45888206

>>45888199
I think toggles should be removed. I also think the content guidelines should be tossed aside. Players shouldn't have any power over the authors. They need to learn to accept that they paly the game. If you don't create for the game, you have no right to an opinion. It would be nice of more authors added NTR.

>> No.45888208

>>45888203
>It's just something to give her a little flavor and character
Fuck off.

>> No.45888213

Oh boy, JPAnon is adding fashion choices to the game! Why the fuck are you like this?

>> No.45888221

as I keep saying, remove everything but sex and set all character's agreement so max from day 1
then /egg/ will be happy

>> No.45888229

>>45888189
mechanics already impact this sort of thing, like how having higher Speech gets more favor when talking to girls. Using mechanics to add more personality to characters sounds like a fine idea to me, hell isn't there already a character that won't talk to you if your Knowledge is too low?
>>45888203
Okay, thats almost so minor it doesn't matter but its just a small thing. With all the yelling about yuri I thought it was going to be something stupid like "You have a penis, -100"

>> No.45888233

>>45888203
...Are you JPAnon? Is this all just so you can tailor Kaguya more to your exclusive taste and headcanon and make her reject Common Joes to make yourself feel better?
It's a wild theory that just came to me, but considering what I've seen you do and say before, maybe it's an epiphany.

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waah waah waah quit being a fucking bitch baby and learn to throw some danmaku, pump up your knowledge level while you're at it you fucking tards

>> No.45888243

>>45888229
Using mechanics to "add more personality" to characters isn't a good idea. That's what dialogue is for. It isn't supposed to gatelock characters away like some VN if you don't choose the "right" option. If you don't play the game the "right way". All you're doing is defending a shit feature idea.

>> No.45888247

>>45888203
Sounds good to me. Don't let the falseflagging shitlib get you down.

>> No.45888248

>>45888213
>fashion choices
Drip contest so my dapper butler outfit can get me rizz points with the 2hus when?

>> No.45888255

>>45888237
Already done. In fact, I beat every 2hu at Danmaku. Was cancer to track down the last remaining 5.

>> No.45888256

>>45888243
sounds to me like you're just butthurt that your waifu would leave you if she had a basic degree of standards fitting to her character implemented

>> No.45888266

>>45888256
It sounds to me like you unironically hate player agency and want to enforce your interpretation of a character as the only valid interpretation.

>> No.45888268

>>45888256
Who gets to decide what does and what doesn't fit her character?

>> No.45888275

All these bickering while I'm here waiting GvT to get an update

>> No.45888278

>>45888275
Isn't there a set release schedule for that game?

>> No.45888282

>>45888266
I hate your agency, because you want everyone to be the same
>>45888268
the writers, barring that then its something this thread might actually be useful for once to figure out
You already want the only difference to be dialogue, so surely the writers can be trusted to do this

>> No.45888288

>>45888278
Yeah like once in a blue moon (maybe)

>> No.45888293

>>45888282
Imagine ignoring the point of dialogue. Marisa is not the same as Reimu simply because they're fall states do not require anything unique.

>> No.45888295

>>45888282
The writers can't be trusted, actually. Source: the Japanese.

>> No.45888316

>>45888295
I can't wait for this wonderful feature to be upstreamed.

>> No.45888317

>>45888293
it sounds like you'd get more enjoyment out of TW by opening the files directly and just reading them than actually playing it
>>45888295
so the writers can't be trusted, but only the dialogue matters

>> No.45888327

>>45888282
But there's like 10 ways in the game to get 2hus to love you, including literally raping a girl every day until she loves you, and you can do them all already. And the proposed change will only set that to one specific way for each of them, the exact same every time you bite the dust, for every player. That's what makes things boring, nigga.

>> No.45888334

>>45888317
>just don't play the game, lol, read the files directly!
What drugs are you taking to make the leap in logic? I play the game for the dialogue. I do not play the game to be forced into roleplaying my character as some VN protagonist.
>>45888327
He knows that.

>> No.45888347

>>45888233
Nah, this has nothing to do with Kaguya. I've no intent to modify existing characters to such a degree.

>> No.45888353

>>45888347
I'd rather you not write for anyone.

>> No.45888354

Different routes have different dialogue. Marisa can fall in love with you even if you rape her ass every day. That is what makes the game fun. Not gatekeeping fall statuses to arbitrarily restricted tou must do A before B. You can't do C though, because that's minus q appeal point!

>> No.45888364

>>45888327
>literally raping a girl every day until she loves you
but you can't do that, it doesn't give favor, reliability, or intimacy

>> No.45888369

>>45888327
Just don't bite the dust, lol, oh by the way you can't marry multiple characters unless you bite the dust. Pick your poison.

>> No.45888372

>>45888364
Unless he's confusing the sex friend route for love.

>> No.45888379

>>45888372
The sex friend route does not prevent love.

>> No.45888392

>>45888364
Having sex gives favor. Reliability can be done via requests. I've had more difficulty in getting characters to not fall in love with me. Without a Stone of Mirada, they will fall in love with you eventually. As it should be.

>> No.45888420

>>45888347
Except you did a special request only for her, and a special marriage event too, from what I've seen. Not to mention the amount of Kaguya-only screencaps you used to post here months ago.
I think you're a waifufag that despises people who waifu the same character.

>> No.45888423

>>45888379
it does actually, by default
theres a toggle for it
>>45888392
so theres more to it than just "rape a girl into love", theres more complicated and character specific actions at work as some characters have unique requests and you'd need a ton of them over in game months if not years to get to Love just off of that. But having your own stats matter in gameplay is a step too far

>> No.45888426

>>45888364
I'm pretty sure having sex does give you favor and trust (?). That's if you don't get hatemark into hatred first.

>> No.45888435

>>45888426
rape doesn't, which is only possible with TSP or tying them up after combat which should be off the table

>> No.45888438

>>45888364
But it trains her body to love you, making every check easier. And there's an option to enable love for sex friends.

>> No.45888442

>>45888423
You're missing the point that none of it requires you to go out of your way to fight a character or earn "appeal points" that again, you are most likely going to make limited and require the player to choose certain decisions to earn. Just like what you did with the marriage. Quit working on the game if you can't understand why people don't appreciate your ideas.

>> No.45888445

>>45888423
You're insufferable.

>> No.45888451

>>45888435
Rape shouldn't prevent love. It's not like hate marks are permanent.

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>>45888426
Just give her some cake lmfao

>> No.45888466

>>45888423
Would you rather the player not be allowed to toggle it?

>> No.45888481

>>45888456
I wonder who makes these forgive cakes, I need to meet that person one day.
Such a good baker, helped me through many NG+ against fickle girls getting angry after I got consent for sex.

>> No.45888488

>>45888466
no I'm just pointing out that the guy is lying by claiming you can rape someone to love
should play K instead, you can there if you're careful

>> No.45888492

>>45888488
Can you point out the lie?

>> No.45888495

>>45888488
More like you're being retarded on purpose.

>> No.45888499

>>45888420
That's just added content. It doesn't affect any of her core mechanics.

>> No.45888506

>>45888499
At least you admit you're a waifufag who's salty other people are waifuing your waifu.

>> No.45888508

>>45888492
>>45888327
>But there's like 10 ways in the game to get 2hus to love you, including literally raping a girl every day until she loves you
that is just incorrect

>> No.45888513

>>45888508
We get it, you don't play the game.

>> No.45888514

>>45888508
It literally isn't, though?

>> No.45888518

>>45888506
Are you even reading any of my posts, or do you just discard them and imagine what you think I wrote, instead?

>> No.45888529

>>45888513
>>45888514
but rape doesn't give the stats needed for Love

>> No.45888527

>>45888518
You've already demonstrated that you aren't worthy of being trusted, mister it adds texture to force the player to play the game how I want them too!, instead of accepting that they're are many ways to get a 2hu to acquire a fall state.

>> No.45888534

>>45888529
It also doesn't prevent the player from earning that fall state.

>> No.45888546

>>45888534
the claim is that action can result in Love, and that is false

>> No.45888547

>>45888499
But you write lines and actions for her, introducing massively OOC reactions and demands. You are, in fact, messing with the character, and pretty heavily too.

>> No.45888553

>>45888547
He doesn't give a shit, he's isn't going accept any criticism as valid. We have no choice but to accept his interpretation of the character as the canon interpretation.

>> No.45888565

>>45888508
You can rape her until her lust and sex stats are crazy high, then burn her panties/hypnotize her for forgiveness and sneak her an aphrodisiac. Then it's basically free favor through sex. Hell, even just raping her through hypnosis might work, I didn't even think to check that.
That's just a skill issue on your part.

>> No.45888570

>>45888565
thats still more actions than just rape

>> No.45888574

>>45888570
The hypnosis update doesn't exist on his fork, probably. Just like the harem toggle doesn't.

>> No.45888579

>>45888570
You know exactly what he meant, pretentious retard. Don't quibble around.

>> No.45888584

>>45888574
I don't use Hypnosis, mostly because one of the only characters that has content for it is Reisen and I don't want to do anything bad to her

>> No.45888587

Is there a megaten update yet?

>> No.45888590

>>45888584
Satori, Seija, and a few other characters have content for it.

>> No.45888611

>>45888570
>including literally raping a girl every day
It's valid as long as you rape her on the same day as you apologize. After that rape is pretty much impossible and she'll love you through just having sweaty, bed breaking sex every day.

>> No.45888617

>>45888579
what he meant was fucking lying to try and cover up the fact that the same basic game loop sends all girls into the same fall states eventually, but its apparently too far of a leap for girls to have specific conditions to match their given personality

>> No.45888631

>>45888617
The basic game loop is good enough. There is no need for specific conditions. Take the L and quit desperately defending your shitty idea.

>> No.45888632

>>45888617
Custom fall states aren't necessary. Writers should work within the game mechanics; they shouldn't tack on unnecessary shit that nobody asked for.

>> No.45888640

man you guys are coordinated on sucking each other off, I admire your effort for this bump of a hill to die on

>> No.45888657

It's now apparently coordinating when multiple people hate a shitty feature. Heavy "It's the players who are wrong, not me!" logic you've got there.

>> No.45888658

>>45888640
If it's a choice between keeping things the same and your VN protagonist? You're damn right I'd prefer to keep things as they currently are.

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like clockwork, you two are something special

>> No.45888684

I still don't see anything wrong with mechanics reflecting a character's personality within reason

>> No.45888705

>>45888678
In my personal opinion, I think it’s pretty unfair of you to dismiss their criticism.

>> No.45888723

>>45888705
You aren't helping, attention whore.

>> No.45888738

>>45888723
You sure aren’t doing yourself any favors by dismissing criticism.

>> No.45888744 [DELETED] 

>>45888705
still live in chatlotte?

>> No.45888795

>>45888684
I don't trust a dev who outspokenly hates the players to do anything within reason.

>> No.45888831

>>45888795
thats a very valid concern, which is why I'd like to see specifics about what is going to be proposed
a cunt can still be useful but this is a community driven project and thus should face community scrutiny, and despite my arguing in defense of it as an idea I won't be sold on it until I see exactly what it'll be

>> No.45888843

>>45888831
It's brought to you by the same pretentious dev who thinks it's reasonable for a player to permanently be locked out of reaching deep love with their wife, and who thinks the player should only be allowed one wife per bite the dust.
No matter how he chooses to implement custom love conditions, I don't trust in him.

>> No.45888866

>>45888843
I don't consider that a dealbreaker imo, monogamy is based.

>> No.45888892

/egg/ is cringe

>> No.45888904

>>45888843
well thats somewhat more of a concern
I usually try to ignore who is doing something in favor of what is being done, but he can take my 98 Lovers from my cold dead hands
from what I remember, the proposed Marriage content was barebones and worthless as well, with practically nothing for it aside from a smug sense of superiority

>> No.45888905

Time to throw my unwanted option on the new requirements to gain love, make it a side goal and toggeable. You should still be able to romance a girl through the tried and true methods, but if you hit a certain threshold you'll get a bonus effect, either granting you increased gains with a girl, or lowering the requirements to actually reach love. Pretty simple fix in my opinion, but I'm sure the shitters will still say it's not enough.

>> No.45888914

>>45888905
That would be reasonable. Just like having increased multiplier gains like in the Merlin example that was talked about. But forcing the player to do certain actions, with no possibility for them to go their own route, that is my biggest issue with it. Player choice is paramount.

>> No.45888918

>>45888892
/egg/ is filled with whiners and whine enablers.

>> No.45888928

>>45888590
>Seija
Oh damn, time to boot up the game right now.
I barely used it because I never remember to use it, time to check some.

>> No.45889651

>>45880961
If you go super hard on noticing and lurk around other boards, you kinda start seeing a lot of similarities. Same hysterical screeching tone, same nefarious goalposts to divide the community, same nonsensical made-up talking points, and most importantly - typos every single word, word salad and just plain gibberish.
I wish it was just a bot, but there are legit discord groups out there with nutjobs organizing and going on crusades like that for any kind of topic, especially games, politics, shilling stuff, modding, etc.
Their goal? Fuck if I know. Some say it's their sick way of socializing, maybe they just want to see the world burn and make the threads unusable with all the digital noise. If only it was for lighthearted fun and shitposting for lulz, but alas, the times have changed.

>> No.45890308

>>45889651
the goal is just to kill 4chan, mostly organized by the fags that liked /qa/

>> No.45891175

Is the Etriam era game unfinished?

>> No.45891735

Any /cbt/ man in?

>> No.45892974

Here's my unwanted opinion: don't fix what isn't broken, quit being fancy, and keep your ideas to yourself. Simple is better.

>> No.45893067

>>45892974
you're right, we should never add any update ever again

>> No.45893095

>>45893067
There is a difference between an update that works within the confines of what already exists and an update that tries too hard. Learn the difference or fuck off. You're becoming the new Pops.

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45893102

Here's my suggestion to those who don't like something: https://gitgud.io/Legis1998/anon-tw/-/forks/new
And stop feeding the shitposter who multiple times proved lack of basic knowledge you'd have if you played the damn game

>> No.45893122

>>45893102
Appeal points are unnecessary, there isn't enough content to justify going out on five or more dates with a single character before acquiring love, and pigeonholing the player into doing specific things takes away from their fun.
The basic gameplay loop is already more than good enough.

>> No.45893233

Players should not be expected to play the game in any specific way. Consider this: biting the dustmakes revisiting any character with special requirements much less enjoyable for the player to experience the second time, the third time, the fourth and more times, around.

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>>45893102
alright I take offense to that you little faggot
I was the guy who didn't hate the idea yesterday You still haven't explained anything I said was wrong, you just said it was and smugly claimed to be right. Rape by itself can't lead to Love in TW.
>>45893122
>>45893233
The more I think about it I start to agree with these points tbdesu, but I can understand why someone would want to change it because as it is right now you seduce every girl in the game the exact same way

>> No.45894721

>>45894652
>as it is right now you seduce every girl in the game the exact same way
Unironically how and why is that a bad thing?

>> No.45894760

>>45894652
>the exact same way
Spam love potion laced tea and convo until she opens her legs. All those traits like liberated, prideful, self control, reserved are just window dressing flavor text and vestigial remnants of Era's slave trainer roots.

>> No.45894767

>>45894721
Imo expecting characters to be carbon copies of each other is bad design. The only problem I have with it is appeal score.

>> No.45894794

>>45894760
Funny, I have never abused love potions or spammed conversations. I just play the game normally by looking after my crops, talking to 2hus, doing requests, cooking food, and attending banquets.

>> No.45894801

>>45894721
Because it doesn't consider them as actual characters. I'll concede that strict single romance requirements isn't the best way to change that, but I wouldn't mind some differences between them that still allows for you to play a way you want to.

>> No.45894841

>>45894801
I don't agree with that logic. Parsee isn't the same character as Tewi simply because their fall states aren't "unique". That said, I wouldn't mind minor flavor differences. Just do away with appeal score.

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Why did they make Yuugi into such a virgin?

>> No.45900062

How do I update eramegaten without bricking my save?

>> No.45900774

>>45899907
Did you not pick the "she's inexperienced" setting?

>> No.45900959

>Rename Mai to M'ai
Why?

>> No.45900971
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>>45900959
Reisen and Rei'sen

>> No.45900980

>>45900971
Make it a toggle at the very least, and change it back. Rei'sen should be Reisen and M'ai should be Mai.

>> No.45901004

>>45900959
That's an irritating and unnecessary change. Nobody with an IQ above room temperature has any difficulty determining which Mai is which from context.

>> No.45901013

>>45900959
That's dumb

>> No.45901024

>>45901013
How hard is it to revert a change on local? It's a recent change, so it shouldn't be too difficult to revert.

>> No.45901043

>>45901024
It's not hard to change but still a dumb and unnecessary change

>> No.45901088

>>45901043
I agree, that's why I'm haven't pulled the changes yet. Posting files in the thread for people to copy and paste over their changes.
Mai (PC-98) Part 1
M_KOJO_K122_イベント.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/lrxhyf.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_セクハラコマンド.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/7s1ily.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_奉仕系コマンド.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/n6kn5c.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_弾幕勝負.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/hf51nf.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_性交系コマンド.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/w2zzum.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_愛撫系コマンド.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/1tk44z.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_日常系コマンド.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/xmh8eu.ERB
M_KOJO_K122_絶頂.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/ppayfc.ERB
ライセンス.txt = https://files.catbox.moe/810cf1.txt
ライセンステンプレ.txt = https://files.catbox.moe/3of2ta.txt

>> No.45901091
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45901091

>>45899907
"Outgoing gal with zero romantic experience" has been popular trope in recent years

>> No.45901105

>>45900959
Rename her to M'aiq and change her dialogue so she's always lying.

>> No.45901109

>>45900959
All entries in CALLNAME should be unique for engine related reasons alone.
This prevents potential issues with them down the line.

>> No.45901125

>>45901088 (me)
Mai (PC-98) Part 2
#Translation/Character Dialog Amount.txt = https://files.catbox.moe/6iuq36.txt
#Translation/Character Dialog Description.txt = https://files.catbox.moe/n5wcn4.txt
CSV/Chara/Chara148 サラ.csv = https://files.catbox.moe/vadyq6.csv
ERB/TRANSLATION/CHARACTER_DIALOG_STATUS.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/uphxeg.ERB
ERB/TRANSLATION/DISH_TASTE.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/4fxfsd.ERB
ERB/TRANSLATION/_Name_Array.ERB = https://files.catbox.moe/bz4z9o.ERB
>>45901109
>potential issues
If no issues currently exist, it's an unnecessary change. Quit making excuses. It's a bad ifor mmersion to arbitrarily change character names.
By the way where are CHARACTER_NUMBER_INDEX.txt and Character list.txt?

>> No.45901140
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45901140

So when is Satori and her household getting an english translation? Tired of the japense text ruining my immersion. I don't even know what this says.

>> No.45901146

Next update will rename Maribel to Maereverie

>> No.45901157
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45901157

>>45901140
Also, if anyone can translate this, I'll be grateful.

>> No.45901156

>>45901140
>So when is Satori and her household getting an english translation?
When you decide to translate it.
>I don't even know what this says
Use Sugoi to translate.

>> No.45901170

>>45901140
I just want to be able to toggle her ascii art off.

>> No.45901190

>>45901125 (me)
Never mind, I found one of them. Character list.txt doesn't exist on my local, so it was probably newly added.
CHARACTER_NUMBER_INDEX.txt = https://files.catbox.moe/hly4zp.txt
Both Mai's have dialogue by the way, and nobody has reported any issues with the engine. That one dude's defense is full of shit. Fearmongering at it's finest, a change for the sake of change.

>> No.45901200

>>45900062
If using Git, just pull the updates.
If using the updater, just update.
If you are doing it manually, unzip the latest version in a new folder and transfer your saves.

>> No.45901211

>>45901190
Funny how their names existed for years, and funny how the Japanese haven't changed any of the names. As far I know, Reisen and Reisen are the same. Why is it that only English devs are so concerned with potential nothingburger engine conflicts?

>> No.45901256

>>45901190 (me)
Wait, I'm dumbass. Accidentally copied over the Dancer's files instead of the Makai Resident's files for some of those. Is there a site more useful than Catbox by the way?

>> No.45901284

>>45901256 (me)
Here, this will last a year. Will look into more long term options.
105 Mai (PC-98) [マイ] (entire folder)= https://file.io/QnDh979LpGE7

>> No.45901321

>>45901284 (me)
There, I added the other files to this link. Should last a year. When it dies, I will reupload another link, or if I find a better solution, I will post a link to that one.
https://file.io/QnDh979LpGE7
Maichads rise up! Damn the consequences, we will not accept the butchering of Mai into M'ai. Mai (pronounced My) is a more beautiful name than M'ai (pronounced M-aye).

>> No.45901335

>>45901125
>If no issues currently exist, it's an unnecessary change.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Preventing issues from popping up and potentially corrupting save files is a fundamental part of writing good, robust code, and waiting for problems to appear before fixing them is a hallmark of naivety and inexperience.
EraTW is written with the assumption that CALLNAME is unique, and the translation should keep this in mind.
>>45901211
>Funny how their names existed for years, and funny how the Japanese haven't changed any of the names. As far I know, Reisen and Reisen are the same.
No, they're not. And I wouldn't assume that the Japanese code is particularly robust, as it's also chiefly written by amateurs and has a lot of bugs, poorly-designed code, and maintainability issues, with very few, if any, people concerned with the code quality.

>> No.45901391

>>45901335
I don't care how amateurish you think it is, Mai is Mai. Not your unholy bastardization M'ai. Come up with a better system, make an overlay or something that displays an output of their original names to the player. Quit bastardizing character names to suit your autistic fearmongering.

>> No.45901408

>>45901335
Then change the callname system for NPCs. As far as I know the engine has no problem with the player sharing the exact same name as the touhous in the game.

>> No.45901422
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>>45901211
Reisen (Udonge) uses kanji 鈴仙 while Reisen (the Watatsuki girltoy) uses レイセン, this is consistent with SSiB

>>45901157
Shouldn't feed, but fuck it I'm in a good mood, a quick one with no regard to character limit
>Just when you were to leave the room, you felt a tug on your clothes.
>"Hold it, onii-san."
>"Don't go... Because of you, I feel like..."
>"That you'd just go and leave me like that without a care is..."
>Rin's teary eyes looking down from her hanging head were enough to make you stop and gently embrace her.
>The second you did that, though, she made a complete turnabout.
>"Nyahaha, you fell for my puss deception!"
>"But, since you have, that means you DO want me a bit, no?"
>"So, no need to be upset"

>> No.45901454

>>45901422
Mai is Mai, not M'ai. If the system is at fault, why not make a better system isntead of forcing these bandaids? Nobody is happy with bruteforcing names. How'd you like it if the government randomly decided to change the name you go by because of some technical issue in their database?
It's the exact same thing here. It's dehumanizing and cruel. Mai is not M'ai.

>> No.45901486

>>45901454
They could make a callmaster equivalent for Reisen, Rei'sen, Mai, and M'ai, but that would be too much work. Just rename your M'ai from the debug menu. I don't think that should cause issues?

>> No.45901530

>>45901486
They'd only need to do it twice. Retain Reisen and Mai's original NPC callname function, and make a separate function for the other characters.

>> No.45901544

>>45901422
Thanks anon. Can you translate the part being pushed down?

>> No.45901650 [DELETED] 

Lol shitlibs, the issue is not the code, it's for distinguishing purposes, plain and simple. Japs use katakana and kanji, it's very easy for them, they got no problem with it. The name is pronounced the same, too.
In English though? Now that's where it gets tricky. It's spelled and written the same, but these are completely different characters. They need to be distinguished because there are many instances where you can get an event without seeing their face and you wouldn't know which one is which (that's just an example). The apostrophe gives you a hint, it's not pretty, it's tacky, but it works. That's all there's to it, end of story.
Can you come up with a better solution without kvetching? Nah, that'd be impossible for you. But I'm all ears.

>> No.45901684 [DELETED] 

>>45901650
So it isn't being added for any technical limitation? Then it's unnecessary. If you can't distinguish a character from the context alone, you're a brainlet who shouldn't play the game.,

>> No.45901698 [DELETED] 

>>45901684
Don't respond to it.

>> No.45901775 [DELETED] 

>he's a contrarian
>on the internet
>on an anime imageboard
>he does it for free
>he takes his "job" of shitting up the thread very seriously
>he does it because it is the only amount of social interaction he will ever have in his pathetic life
>he shits up threads he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
>he shits on ideas he doesn't like because taking the time to toggle them off interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends

>> No.45901784 [DELETED] 

>>45901775
Lol shitlib ketch more.

>> No.45901789

>>45901650
Why did you change theirdialogueif it's only to distinguish requests and such? If the player selects the command to caress Mai's ass, they aren't going to mistake the Mai whose ass they are currently fondling for the other Mai. Especially since namecalls in dialogue typically call for the player to select a command, with thedialogue beingoutput afterward. Your justification for this change is becomingprogressively weakerthe more you tryto rationalize it.

>> No.45901791
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45901791

Can I please get tl;dr what is this in latest AnonTW and should I click it?

>> No.45901810

>>45901791
If I had to guess, it adds affinity to characters or something based off of fanon?

>> No.45901811

authorCHADS
what changes/additions- if any- to (you)r characters dialogue are you going to make with this new feature that's getting added?

>> No.45901820

>>45901811
they're still a bit too vague about exactly what it does
need an example or something

>> No.45901824

>>45901811
Is this about the fall state conditions? If so, I have no plans to change the default for the characters I'm writing for.

>> No.45901868

>>45901820
here's an example I can think of
let's take Yuugi or any of the Oni or 'muh strong' characters as an example
>confession dialogue never mentions beating them the fuck up
>new fall state requires you having beat them in a danmaku
>change confession to include about how strong you are and how you beat them up
Yes, I know you can include a check so you don't need the fall state to do this, but the example still stands. At least now you don't need two different dialogues written.

>>45901824
fair enuff

>> No.45901876

>>45901868
That sounds like a terrible idea. Make your own dialogue if you want, do not change the currently existing one.

>> No.45901933

>>45901876
re-read the post retardo, it was an example

>> No.45901966

>>45901933
My point still stands. Do not modify any prexisting dialogues to use that feature. Make an alternate or a brand new one instead.

>> No.45901985

>>45901966
my dialogue
my choice
my body
rapist

>> No.45902254 [DELETED] 

Why are there so many fags in the era discord server...

>> No.45902258 [DELETED] 

>>45902254
What's wrong with being a fag?

>> No.45902284 [DELETED] 

>>45902254
>shitting up the thread didn't work out for him
>shitting on the new fall state idea didn't work out for him
>he's now trying to go for the low hanging fruit of shitting on the discord to cause the thread to go to shit, which also won't work for him because both the discord and the thread already agree discord is gay
lol,
lmao even

>> No.45902304 [DELETED] 

>>45902284
He's from a new IP?

>> No.45902360 [DELETED] 

>>45902304
vpn

>> No.45902367 [DELETED] 

>>45902360
Do you think the threadshitter is smart enough to afford a VPN?

>> No.45902397 [DELETED] 

>>45902367
>he can't toggle off ideas he doesn't like
>he has no social skills
>he will never have a real job
>he will never move out of his parent's house
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
>he will never have a girlfriend
>he will never have any friends
Shitting up the thread is literally the only thing giving him purpose, of course he knows how to use a vpn.

>> No.45902408 [DELETED] 

>>45902397
So let me get this straight. You think a man with no social skills somehow makes enough money to afford a VPN that isn't blocked by 4chan? You have more faith in him that I do.

>> No.45902429 [DELETED] 

>>45902408
NEETbux exist anon.

>> No.45902449 [DELETED] 

>>45902254
Stop using discord

>> No.45902513 [DELETED] 

>>45902429
What are the chances he gets a tugboat lol

>> No.45902632 [DELETED] 

>>45902449
If people need a server for quick comunication between coders/authors etc, I wish people would at least use Matrix or IRC since the devs of Discord are all furries and/or nonces.

>> No.45902650 [DELETED] 

>>45902632
Furry is banned on the /egg/ Discord.

>> No.45902662 [DELETED] 

>>45902650
I mean the Discord developers, not the fags in /egg/, are all furries and pedos.

>> No.45902665 [DELETED] 

>>45902662
I don't think you understand how anything works.

>> No.45902669 [DELETED] 

>>45902665
I don't think you've understood me at all.

>> No.45902678 [DELETED] 

>>45902669
No, I understood you, I just think you're an idiot.

>> No.45902697 [DELETED] 

>>45902678
>seething discord power-user
Let me guess, you paid for Discord Nitro?

>> No.45902745 [DELETED] 

>>45901650
>legitimate explanation of why thing A happened to a bunch of retarded crybabies
>"some" dork (looking at you sleigh) got offended and spammed reports to get it deleted
Lol, and then you wonder why this thread is dying.

>> No.45902774 [DELETED] 

Nobody cares about your obsession with some random shitcord personality, 114-kun.

>> No.45902813 [DELETED] 
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>>45902632
>>45902662
>nonces as a negative
where do you think you are

>> No.45902816 [DELETED] 

>>45902813
Nobody asked for your opinion sleigh.

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>>45902774
That's rich coming from someone who keeps up with thread personalities to know them by name. I know who's reporting posts here, you're not gonna gaslight me. Oh, and >new ip, how organic.

>> No.45902838

>>45901811
Parsee and Wriggle will be easier to get to Yearning but harder to get to Love. I feel like they're quick to fall for (You) but it takes them a while to realize it: in Parsee's case, it's because she's still trying to drive you away to keep you safe from her, and in Wriggle's case, it's because she's a dumbass ("Why do I feel like I'm getting sick every time I'm around MC-kun? Is he secretly a tsuchigumo?! I'll get to the bottom of this, or my name isn't Wriggle Nightbug!").
Parsee will also be harder to get to Sex Friend because of her religious hangups, but way easier to get to Lust once you get here there because once she realizes that her lust for you is strong enough to overpower her jealousy, she just embraces it so she can feel normal again.
And Momoyo's fall state requirements will be lowered the lower your combat is, with the same drop at 0 and EX combat. She likes having a cute human lover she can protect, and being stronger than her means she's always thinking about (You), meaning she realizes "hey, I wanna date this guy" sooner.

>> No.45902845 [DELETED] 

Only a threadshitter would be obsessed with easily faked screenshots.

>> No.45902876 [DELETED] 

Only a threadshitter would be denying reality to push his lousy agenda and get rid of posts he doesn't like.

>> No.45902886

Playing anonTW does Takane not have dialogue? and how do I go into full screen

>> No.45902903

Here you go, autist. An up-to-date TW with every single instance of Rei'sen and M'ai replaced with Reisen and Mai. Now can you please quit shitting up the thread? Changes like these aren't made without a reason.
https://pastebin.com/2bA8HARy

>> No.45902924

>>45902886
Open help menu, click setting then set up the size in window tab.
Takane doesn't have dialogue as far as I know.

>> No.45902997

Why can't TW's devs be as peaceful as the other devs?

>> No.45903034 [DELETED] 

>>45902997
Pedy is the only dev that matters.

>> No.45903043

>>45902838
What a king.

>> No.45903067

>>45901811
What I want to do with my character is already done through removing or adding talents, so nothing really.

>> No.45903101

>>45903034
Is that why he got kicked out of every project he touched?

>> No.45903117

>>45903101
Why are you denying reality to push your lousy agenda?

>> No.45903143

>>45903117
Name 1 non-era game he's still actively working on

>> No.45903153

>>45903143
Neodev still exists.

>> No.45903294
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>>45902838
>fall state requirements will be lowered the lower your combat is
>cute human lover she can protect
You are our best developer.

>> No.45903363

>>45903294
that title belongs to Pedy not the gaylord writing Turdmoyo

>> No.45903396

>>45902838
>fall state requirements will be lowered the lower your combat is
>tfw love being the strong guy who protects his waifu
;_;
Can you make an alternate dialogue for this?
Even if it's a one-off change to the confession.

>> No.45903402

>>45903396
He said EX Rank and 0 combat will be treated as the same difficulty. So you can be both the protector or the protectee.

>> No.45903424

>>45903402
forgib, I am at werk and my readin' compreehenshun is a retarded

>> No.45903427

>come back from work
>see a bunch of deleted post
Damn, kek.

>> No.45903707

>>45903427
I think it's funny he self deletes too. It's like he acknowledges that his posts are low quality.

>> No.45903707,1 [INTERNAL] 

Shitlib janny be shitlibbin'

>> No.45903707,2 [INTERNAL] 

Shitlib janny be shitlibbin'

>> No.45906173

Return to tradition >>45906168

>> No.45906176

>>45906173
>Pedy-tw

>> No.45906182

>>45906173
Really?

>> No.45906185

>>45906173
eat a glass sandwich

>> No.45906207

This is why gates were made heathen scum

>> No.45906259

>>45906207
I used to only go to /v/ for era games talk.
It's one of you guys that pointed me towards this place, you failed to gatekeep on every level.

>> No.45906270

>>45906259
Only shithus stay behind gate your kind welcome here

>> No.45907775
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45907775

what are the latest 2hus to get dialogue/tl that doesnt suck

>> No.45908233

>>45907775
Tewi.

>> No.45908288

why people not upset at sleigh for ruining the thread? Discussion impossible due to mass reports and spam

>> No.45908326

>>45908288
every discussion ends with
>do it yourself
>[Headcanon]
>be the change you want to see
>no one asked for this feature

and if I were to request a translation for a character it is more likely for it to be shot down because you have mood swings. I get some people are jealous for sleggy's ironic popularity but surely there's a bigger problem.

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45908452

>>45908356
Yanhu vs Yanhu fights when

>> No.45908474

>>45906207
That's just a coping mechanism to not see the truth. The rot comes from inside, but you love to throw the blame outside.
How long has that shitty Ran MMD poster been here for? What about the moderation? The vtuber threads are still massively outnumbered by touhou threads, so you can't blame that either.
It's only by looking at the truth that the problem can be solved.

>> No.45908625

New player here. How do I get a girl to agree to do it raw?

>> No.45908654

>>45908625
Try getting her to love.
A lot of things matter for this check, actually. If you want to do it earlier than love then you should look into raising her semen addiction, particularly by getting her to blow you a lot or cooking with extra love just for her.

>> No.45908662

>>45908625
Ask her repeatedly (better if they're drunk) but don't push too hard

>> No.45908666

>>45908662
There's an option specifically to ask to do it raw?

>> No.45908673

>>45908666
Of course

>> No.45908674

>>45908673
Where does it pop up? I've never seen it before.

>> No.45908676

>>45908674
Have you tried putting it in without rubber?

>> No.45908696

>>45908654
>>45908676
Fair. Thanks anons.

>> No.45909137

Anon come quick, Rumia has been looking for you all day and now she's angry

>>45909131

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