/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>45852599
リト is cute

I can't tell whether this VN is taking the piss or not. Playing the exact same line 26 times in a row is a joke, it's a shitpost, it has to be a gag, there's absolutely no way they could expect me to take this scene seriously, and yet that's exactly what they do. It's played completely straight for drama. I have absolutely no idea whether the writers expect me to take this seriously or they're just too good at deadpan delivery.

>>45852626
that's pretty funny, they committed to the bit however stupid it was

JAV

Random thoughts on new Ouju no Shima info.
I thought the game was going to take place on some remote island near Okinawa because of the music in the PV, but rewatching it now, the imagery does align more with classical Japanese folklore and Buddhism than that of the Ryukyu kingdom. Higa is an Okinawan surname though (albeit the character who has it uses different kanji), so maybe there might be some connection made in the story.
It's far from the first time Japanese mysticism and curses are being used as a central theme in eroge (there's a decent amout of miko and onmyouji stuff) but it's the first time I've seen 呪術 specifically being used as THE key word. Maybe they're riding on the recent popularity a bit?
I can't really imagine any islands in the Seto Inland Sea being particularly isolated since they'd be sandwiched between Honshu and Shikoku but I guess I'd need to visit to find out. Some pictures look really comfy when the sun's out.
Initial heroine preferences: Demure > Prostitute > Mesugaki > Assassin
Cautiously optimistic.

>>45852531
is that game fun

>>45852742
It's an ensemble game, you know what you're getting. The taisho and east vs west bits are fun additions that add a lot though. I enjoyed it, but if you don't like ensemble it won't change your mind.

>the goddess on the heroes' side is actually evil all along
I actually did not see that coming. She didn't really appear much during the neutral route so I thought she'd be the main in the law route. This took me by surprise.

>>45852626
i love this so much, the writer really let his intrusive thoughts win

>>45852626
based

What eroge is the closest to Keroro Gunsou?

>>45852763
what's she on about

>>45852763
i've never played an ensemble game, so no I don't know what i'm getting

Done with the trial, so a few thoughts
>racism bad
>war bad
I can kind of see what the plot is going to be, and I'm not very interested in it. ost is a bit better than Sousaku. The lip sync isn't that well synchronized. Sofia seems like the most interesting of the bunch. I prefer Alpha's design over the new guy, but sadly he only did vamps, and there are only like 4 of them out of 20 characters. I will settle for him doing the poster girl, I guess... The VN is supposed to be winter-themed, but some backgrounds don't have any snow, for whatever reason.
Will read the whole game when it's released, seems like I will like it more than Jehewa.

thanks defender

>>45853223
>racism bad
>war bad
So it really is a Jeweha ripoff?

>>45853276
Isn't Jeweha just a Sorceress Alive ripoff?

>>45853255
just trust me bro

>>45853223
>silver haired kemonomimi loli in military uniform
its ogre, it's going to be a kamige

>>45853223
>>45853276
Why do you all think the only discourse towards war and racism is le chud Muramasa way?

>>45852599
does someone have a download for プリンセスうぃっちぃず? the one from anime sharing are slow as fuck and no one seeds the torrent.

>>45853838
It's on AB.

>>45853852
care to spoonfeed a newfag on what it is? I recently started reading untranslated VNs (this is going to be my fourth actually) and that's not one of my sources.

>>45853255
Your virtual machine?

>>45853917
idk something in ryuugames sakura no uta

>>45853882
AnimeBytes.

>>45853945
I meant to say where is your virtual machine? if you are so scared of viruses just install it on a virtual machine

>>45854031
Idk what a virtual machine is. I just download vinnies and click play but this one got flagged for something

>>45853490
I don't mind the standard approach, but I wish it were a bit different from the usual:
>be racist towards kemonomimi
>a kemonomimi save my life
>I was wrong, kemonomimi are le good

>>45854069
>Idk what a virtual machine
>vinnies
You must be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan.

>>45854069
cute newfag >_<

Why are there so few games that have a NEET protagonist?
I'd be interested in reading a wholesome eroge about a recovering NEET with different girls showing him the life isn't that bad.

>>45854251
The playerbase would decline too fast because of suicide.

>>45854251
Retards already complain the average moege protagonist is a donkantard, what do you think would happen if he also is a neet on top of that where a bunch of beautiful girls falls for him.

>>45854251
is it just me or are you confusing neet with hikki?

>>45854251
Because it's incredibly hard to write NEET protagonists. How do you imagine NEET protagonist will suddenly mingle with 4+ girls?

Yeah, this thread apparently doesn't know the difference between neet and hikki. Fucking disgrace

>>45854391
Something like he would die if he doesn't get a girlfriend by the end of the game. True end will be him dying alone.

>>45854426
recovering NEET protag visual novel would just be incredibly depressing and not fit the dating sim genre at all if you stay realistic instead of going the magical isekai route
the heroine wouldn't even get screentime until you're 90% into the game, it's nothing but going to employment centers, working out, depressed substance abuse and jobs so shit a 12 year old indian boy could do them. Also, all the bad ends are just 32 different methods of suicide.

>>45854093
Most of the eroge target audience are pretty damn prejudiced.

>>45854251
what do you even want, I can think of maybe a very small number of eroges where the protag starts out being a dropout but the situation gets resolved in the first 5 minutes

Should you read the whole Oretuba prelude or only the first 3?
I know that the last 3 are in the main game but will it spoil me anything if i read them in the prelude

>>45854745
Heroine POV chapters are not in the main game and should be read before anything else.
Shuusuke and Hayato chapters are in the main game and the content is mostly the same, but there are some minor changes: main game changes the VA for one character and adds new BGM, so it's better to play them in the main game.
Karuo chapter is not in the main game, and unlocks after you play everything else in Prelude, but it assumes familiarity with the characters introduced in the Shuusuke and Hayato chapters.

Optimal read order: heroine chapters (Prelude) -> main game, then at some point during the Hayato chapter (specifically, after Naru gets introduced) go back to Prelude, skip the Shuusuke and Hayato parts and read the Karuo chapter, then continue the main game normally.

>>45853838
wait a few hours for the a-s download to finish, then seed the torrent

Does anyone find Magpie to be annoying to use lately?
I'm not sure since when this issue appeared, but it will just randomly go out of scaling mode when alt-tabbing, and after that when you try to alt-tab it tabs to the game instead, so in short you basically have to click alt-tab 2 times all the time.
Reopening the game fixes the issue but then it will appear again at some point.
Also when you take a screenshot in Sharex (in the choosing region mode) it will constantly cause the same issue

bringing up magpie in this thread was a mistake

I literally read an old eroge in 800x600 in a full 1080p screen last month
Fuck AI

>>45855144
If a game is acting weird, try changing the capture method

>>45855550
>he doesn't read it on a projector.
Anon, please.

>>45853223
She's cute and that's enough to make me interested even if the story sucks

>>45853223
the main heroine and the same way of handling racism from jehewa are pretty annoying but the cat is pure sex so I still have to read it

>>45852721
The older I get, the more I love hags and used goods. I even get to self insert as ikeoji.

>>45856607
Damn, Norizane's art sure feels like a fusion between Hamashima Shigeo and Gentle Sasaki.
I missed that point where she did several ClockUp games as a main artist and not as an assistant.

>>45856745
Shigeo did the character designs, so that's probably the reason whu.

>>45856607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4

>>45854251
There's hamidashi creative where an ex-不登校 protag helps a bunch of 不登校 heroines, that was cool

>>45855567
Huh so it seems like it works fine with the rest of the capturing methods and only graphics capture causes this double alt-tab. Is there even any notable difference between those methods?

>>45857147
She's a teacher, too, which is funny karma

>>45857153
https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie/wiki/Comparison-of-capture-methods

>>45857180
Doesn't seem to be any difference for static stuff like vns, at least I can't spot anything on screenshots. The only issue I found so far is that you can't use sharex with desktop duplication because it captures minimized window only

any games with protagonists that avoid onions based food? so that i can self insert more easily.

>>45857290
https://vndb.org/g1371

>>45857313
sorry, i meant 大豆 not 玉ねぎ.

>>45857290
unfortunately it appears the japanese are addicted to 醤油 even in ostensibly fantasy settings so EVNs might be more your thing

>>45853223
it will probably be better than jeweha considering it doesnt have a school setting nor the cringe fight scenes (or does it? i never read the trial)

>>45854391
>How do you imagine NEET protagonist will suddenly mingle with 4+ girls?
MC lives in an apartment complex. He meets the girls (all JS and JC of course) in the elevator/stairwell, trash collection, in the corridors and on the way to the konbini. Deep down he's a good guy so they get attached to him and want to help him. But of course they have no idea how messed up he is so once they fall for him it's too late and his degeneracy leads them into fucked up sex.

In short, why are there no moege in multi-level apartment complexes? It's all in old nukige. I don't want dorm shit, it's not the same.

that smile...
that damned smile...

>>45857518
>in the elevator/stairwell, trash collection, in the corridors and on the way to the konbini
The real NEETs don't do any of that though

>>45857565
>>45854413

>>45857510
There are fight scenes. Not much to say about them since it's early content but the art, effects and music are better than jeweha at least.

>>45857736
the writing is what i'm worried about the most...jeweha fight scenes went on forever and were very cringe 'power of friendship' type shit

>>45853223
jeweha was mid but will check this out for sure

>>45857525
It's a slippery slope, they use gaijin engines (jewnity), then they use gaijin ""art"" style elements...

The novel that won Japan's most prestigious literary prize was written with the assistance of AI, and had unedited sentences. How long until we start seeing eroge written by AI?

>>45858081
i've been very unimpressed with japanese literature i've tried, honestly i think your average eroge is on par with it, maybe even better

>>45858136
lol

>>45858136
Yeah it's better every time.

>>45858136
I've never read anything recent but I thought dazai was pretty good

Eroge is literature

>>45858329
most eroge writers are mostly amateurs or failed writers
they would instantly switch to write real literature given the chance

>>45858358
idk dude if someone asked me if i would rather read oretsuba or dazai i'm picking oretsuba every time

>>45858136
Oldish stuff is fine, but if we're talking anything more recent-ish (like say post WWII), I'd pick eroge every time.

>>45858706
Try Hard-Boiled Wonderland, it's basically eroge for boomers

>>45858771
murakami really is pretty eroge adjacent isn't he
complete with the
>can't write a proper ending to save his life

Have you done your anki today anon?

>>45858771
>Murakami
More like Westernised twitter LN.

>>45858835
Last year i only missed two days

>>45858771
I've been meaning to read that actually. I think I'm going to read it along with the audiobook, if I'm able to find it that is

>>45858917
Cool, be sure to post about in on Twitter and Discord!

>>45858949
On second thought, maybe I won't read it...

>>45858838
I'm pretty sure Hard boiled wonderland isn't modern murakami

>>45858136
If you like Denpa, try Kobo Abe's The ruined map, great stuff about a detective looking for a man that might or might not be him.

>>45858835
No, every second you waste on a*ki is a second you could be reading an eroge

>>45859019
dumb hook cuck

on that note, post some good jap literature recommendations. Untranslated even.

>>45859046
Isn't most of it Westernised garbage these days? Only VN are the safe haven for the time being.

>>45859046
https://vndb.org/v12613

>>45859046
黒須ちゃん寝る by 田中ロミオ

Look, anons are discussing irrelevant shit again

>>45859046
>A Personal Matter / Kenzaburo Oe
>A Silent Cry / Kenzaburo Oe
Oe's works revolve around the birth of is mentally impaired son, not all of his books are about that, A Personal Matter is though. His writing style is oppressive and psychological.
>>45859018
Kobo Abe's books are weird to put it lightly, The ruined map has a very interesting way of telling it's story, almost as if the author goes out of his way to disorient you, a scene might show up in the middle of a conversation without any previous notice, or the main character starts describing some weird hallucination or some surreal impression he starts having about someone mid sentence. his most famous book is
>Woman in the Dunes
though The ruined map is also good.
I feel Yukio Mishima doesn't need an introduction
>Confessions of a Mask
>Forbidden Colours
those are good starting books.
You can also try Natsume Soseki if you want pre ww2 literature, this means no gay people, no psychological anguish and definitely no sex.
>Kokoro
>And Then
Are pretty good books.

yean /vn/ scum and djtards ruined this thread
I'm out. suck my cock, faggots

>>45859167
>this means [...] no psychological anguish and definitely no sex
i don't understand
what is literature without psychological anguish and sex?

>>45859203
Well I kinda lied, I meant that instead of the anguish being " What the fuck is life where am I headed This world is so dirty I want to burn it/ dissapear", Soseki is more like "Damn...times are changing and I don't know what to do with my life, also my father that used to be a retainer for the bakufu is asking me to get a job"

>>45859018
Do you have it? it's not on z-lib

>>45859236
I got it from Oceanopdf

>>45859235
i was about 70% joking but the other 30% understands what you mean
anyway, good recs, but back to eroge

>>45859093
damn I want to play it an dlisten to the drama CD

>>45852599
Is there a chance that Unison Shift will create more game like Leyline?

Bros i think i found the real literature

>>45859323
Hope not

>>45859323
Episodic with a terrible forced main heroine while the others get shafted? Hopefully no!

>>45859339
nani website

>>45859391
z-lib

>>45859339
based

>>45859377
I mean the atmosphere or setting. Tough i do like Ushio so her being the main girl isn't a negative for me. But yeah they should do away with episodic release. Two year wait for the last game are pain when there's big cliff at the end of second game.

>>45859377
The main heroine was the single good part of that entire game though

Anyone here looking forward to 僕の好きな人の好きな人は、女装した僕でした? What kinda game can I expect? Cross-dressing, obvs, but I haven't played anything by ensemble SWEET before (or ensemble proper). Like, long/short, scenarioge/charage, nukige/not... Does the author know what he's doing? That kinda thing.

>>45859398
All the domains I knew of are dead, where is it now?

>>45859635
https://zlibrary-global.se/

>>45859339
Ok i was joking at first, but this is honestly kami
Didn't expect it to be from the youjo perspective

Had a power outage while reading. The saves weren't corrupted, but the gallery got wiped......

>>45859167
>almost as if the author goes out of his way to disorient you
Wow, so cool! It's like on Discord where we discuss meta art and deconstructions of video games and some anime!

>>45859877
wtf why i'm not invited yet

>>45859167
>His writing style is oppressive and psychological.
So much this... I have seen it on my Twitter. The depth is almost Subahibian in its character. I love how he says at the end of the book "This is a book, and you have been reading it...".

>>45859824
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

>>45859167
>this means no gay people, no psychological anguish and definitely no sex.
No way! That is not art we as a society can consume! Art must have those things to be relevant!

>>45859912
this but completely unironically

>>45859931
So true! We need to have newer versions of old art with more affirming characters to be more amenable to modern consumption. This is what we are doing on Discord.

>>45859931
Only if by "gay people" it's meant 百合（きゅーとげいりとるがーるず）.

i would genuinely rather have someone who holds these opinions post here than read whatever the fuck it is you think you're doing

Has anyone compiled a list of deep works of literature I have to read and analyze before even having a fighting chance at appreciating Subahibi? I don't mind studying philosophy for a couple of years as an initiation ceremony to get me closer to understanding this masterfully crafted work of art.

>>45860006
Umineko

>>45859993
By gay people it means fags as joke characters constantly getting mocked.

>>45859999
you can tell its some seething /vn/ retard

Has anyone written an analysis on Shiroyama's character? I felt like there were hints to him having a very complex motivation and deep character, but I haven't read enough Wittgenstein yet to fully understand him. Any thoughts?

>>45859999
Thus have spoken the quads.

>>45859999
You seem to imply that the only way a reference is valid is if the work follows the reference in some way. Intertextuality, how we read, and how we derive meaning from works doesn't function like that. The process of 'justification' is completely subjective and all you reveal is your own biases.

Eroge thread motherfuckers

mom love!

>>45858081
I wonder what version of chatgpt she used and how good it is with japanese language.
In my native language AI writing looks terrible.

>>45860131
more like your prompting skills sucks

>>45860111
loli mom love

>>45860162
does this thing have scenes? this is important

>>45860209
It's not an 男の娘, so no

>>45860270
all those noodles and none in the right place, what a shame

>>45857525
looked better as thumbnail

>>45857888
Whatever you do, don't read marco to ginga ryuu.

>>45859167
>Kokoro
>no psychological anguish
lol

>>45860356
Why?

>>45859877
>>45859895
>>45859912
I can feel your 大和魂 through your posts....nghh..so strong.

Important reminder that /vn/ faggots can't discuss untranslated eroges so that's why they try to divert discussions to offtopic/general shit

>>45860497
Ugh so true sister

>>45860403

>>45860270
ok this will be my first 男の娘 game wish me luck

>>45860559
couldnt finish it because of this ugly shit

>>45860559
Honestly the female protag and all-ages tags are worse than this

>>45860585
Good luck anon. I'm trying a few of these titles in the 女装 series and 女装千年王国 has been my favorite so far. If you like comedy and isekai shenanigans I think you'll like it.
The setting and characters are so good I even forgot it was a trap nukige sometimes. The author was inspired when writing some of the priestess (male) H-scenes, the way some of the jokes in there tie in with the plot are great.

>>45860426
ありがとうございます。Some day I wish to attain to the values of true 日本人.

>>45860497
I see you have not met MTL'ers

>>45860754
ironically mtlers are chill as long as you don't remind them that they are mtlers

>>45860627
Meh, there's no romance so those aren't bad.

>>45860773
They shit up discussions by participating with mistranslated garbage and ask dumb questions that were previously answered in said work because their mtl fucked up something and didn't make any sense so they end up calling the story or character shit because they are unable to understand their mtl is flawed
They are a blight if you don't identify them.

>>45860807
whenever someone throws shit at a game or a writer, ask them what they read by that author or details of the story. It's the easiest way to identify larpers or trolls and avoid extending unnecessary discussions.

>>45860821
>whenever someone throws shit at a game or a writer, ask them what they read by that author
I never know who the writer was and don't look it up because I don't care about authors. either I liked it or I didn't and then I shit on whoever wrote that shit

>>45860887
that's the point, if you read something, understood it and didn't like it, you have every right to throw shit at it

>>45860650
FSM and Monty python references in my Japanese media? Whatever I'm downloading

Almost finish with the cohabitation route in imokano. I'm starting to lose interest a bit. Are the Kei/Mitsuki scenarios afterward worth it enough for me to just power through what's left of cohabitation?

>>45861088
they're very short, but both are good.

>>45852599
I'm going in. I'll be back in a year

>>45861192
The whole trilogy is like 50 hours long.

>>45861521
1 hour a week

>>45854093
It's the classic how to get weebs to understand why racism is bad: make the victim of racism a cute catgirl. If you want them to understand why war is bad, make the war kill a cute catgirl. if you want them to understand the dangers of poverty, show a cute catgirl starving.

>>45860585
>>45860650
Just FYI, as someone who fucking loves these games and has played all of them, I wouldn't recommend Josou Sennen Oukoku as a starting point. If you want to know why, it has a cameo of a character from a previous game near the end. It's not a major thing but it's a nice little moment.
The last game in the series goes full srw / marvel's avengers and brings everyone back.

>>45857744
>went on forever and were very cringe 'power of friendship' type shit
This is what I live for. You nofunfags are too buckbroken by utsuge depressioncore.

>>45861784
if i'm playing an eroge i dont want to read a story that feels like it was written for middle schoolers dude

>>45861784
I like power of friendship, still didn't like most of jeweha's fight scenes

>>45860807
That never happens, jopcuck.

>>45860807
throwing mtl accusation at people who didn't like work you like is like the biggest detector of small cock syndrome with mixed-in insecurity bro
you're gonna get laughed at in every single community lol
including 4chan yes

>>45861878
Hi, retardeds that MTLed the imokano

>>45861854
>middle schoolers
Then don't play chuunige. Simple as that.

>>45861889
jeweha was a cool tweest game though even if the fight scenes sucked

>>45861888
rent-free?

Wait a minute, it's ACTUALLY called Jeweha? This whole time I thought it was called something -ha and Jeweha was some weird joke I had to read it to understand, like the heroine loves money or something.

>>45861888
I thought imokano mtler actually liked it?

>>45861913
Jewelry Hearts Academia is the full name.

>>45861922
shit girl

>>45861917
no he is talking about our alleged anon mtler who apparently did not understand some things that eroge itself explained

>>45861925
Oh.

>>45861917
imokano shill is a MTLer but imokano being shit has nothing to do with MTL, it is just a bad VN

>>45861942
so you mtled it and didn't really understood it, got it

>>45860807
kek it's an anon who reads shark vn right?

>>45861955
>man reads shark vn blatantly using mtl and getting numerous character names completely wrong
>the next day, posts a huge list of complaints about the vns plot, all of which are directly answered in the VN
what a coincidence.

>>45861941
45754599 for more information

>>45861942
what didn't you like anon?

>>45861908
I find that games with awesome fight scenes don't even try with ero.

>>45861941

>>45861908
Jeweha is one of the few eroge that I wish had nixed the H-scenes and put more money into CGs and music. It has a great story and great worldbuilding, but it suffers from failing to show instead of tell a lot of the time.

>>45861983
I know this is probably cunningham's law and anon is using reverse psychology to try to get people to post VNs with great h-scenes and great fight scenes, but, just off the top of my head
>Chusingura
>Miburo
>Silverio Trinity
>Silverio Vendetta
>R.U.R.U.R.U.
>Kunado Kokuki
>Tsukihime (I'm not joking)

>>45861959
oh, that anon didn't post his final review, did he?

>>45861995
i mean, it already did nix the h-scenes didn't it? if i remember correctly all of the h-scenes were omake, the main story was completely all ages. i think it was the writer going too far in a few places rather than anything from the developer. personally i dont think there was anything they could have added to the production that would immediately save the game, but i think the game definitely needed more tachie for the side characters.

>>45862019
Yeah, it was all detached H-scenes. Still, it costs money to get CGs drawn and to pay 声優 to moan into a mic. Then again, porn is a big part of the sales driver for eroge so maybe I'm just a naive retard in this case.

>>45862035
Is it? All-ages games seem to do pretty well.

>>45862007
What about Fortissimo?

>>45862055
Haven't read it.

>>45862042
Not for Bishoujoge.

https://youtu.be/6SeEbOUjyu8

Are there any more overly excited eroge playthrough hosts like that?
It's unexpectedly fun to listen to playthroughs like his ones.

>>45862185
do zoomers really watch other people read books

>>45862007
Pretty solid list if I'm being honest. Crazy coincidence too, because I would be reading R.U.R.U.R.U. at this precise moment if the coin flip I did when deciding my next vn had come up heads. At least now I know it's good.

>>45862441
R.U.R.U.R.U is fantastic, but my number one piece of advice is go in knowing as little as possible about it and try not to read any descriptions as they spoil the first major twist. A big part of what made the VN so enjoyable is that it's one of those VNs that throws you into a completely insane situation where a bunch of seemingly nonsensical stuff happens and you have to piece together what's going on, and every summary I've ever seen just outright tells you.
Also while I do think it has some great fight scenes I wouldn't say they're the focus.

Anyone got DL version of R.U.R.U.R? It's not on AB and i'm probably gonna need VM with XP otherwise.

>>45862470
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/21196

if there is not an h-scene where she sucks your blood i am giving this game a zero

>>45862463
>but my number one piece of advice is go in knowing as little as possible about it and try not to read any descriptions
I had this exact problem with a game I recently played, Casablanca no Tsubomi. I was drawn in from reading EGS reviews talking about how crazy that game was but I was underwhelmed by it. Then I realized it was probably because most people came into the game not expecting much and then got blown away by the twist. The problem with that game is that the twist is all there is to it, everything outside of it is pretty boring.

>>45862463
Great to hear that, like I said R.U.R.U.R.U is the next vn on my 'log but I wanna read a couple of lns that I been piling up after I finish my current vn. Still, I'll definitely note down this advice on a notepad or something so I don't forget later, thanks anon

>>45862508
The best example is muv-luv, imo - if you go into it thinking you're just getting a comedy moege, you'll have your mind blown and come out thinking it's amazing, but when people go in expecting the greatest mecha story of all time and get whose bento will you eat they react poorly.

>>45862473
Does this version works on w10?

>>45862559
worked fine on my machine

>>45862575
Ty.

>>45861983
Ayakashi H

I'm playing the unravel trigger trial and I'm not far yet and already the game seems weird. I get suspension of disbelief and all but it feels off when you can feel the writer behind the characters if that makes sense. The MC and main heroine go for a walk and already they see two guys beating up a child and a woman trying to kill herself. And it feels like the only reason these scenes exist is for characterization purposes.

Idk how to explain the weirdness of it but it just feels 'off', like you can sense the writer going, "i'm going to write X scene for X purpose".

>>45862205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ya56rGZ8w

This video and the song are from 2007 and already at that point there were enough people watching eroge playthroughs on niconico to make it into this song.
Zoomers have nothing to do with it.

>>45863275
So what was the latest version of this? I felt like these niconico collabs stopped sometime during the early 10's.

I don't think she should say that...

>>45863293

>>45863293

>>45863275
Zoomerism is not a question of birth year, it's a state of spirit.

Do you recommend Hentai Prison? I've heard it doesn't focus on H content too much and it's more like a "social critique" gay shit or something.

>>45852599
Does anyone have the script to Afureta Zombie. I regret deleting it all.

>>45863388
hentai prison was like light-hearted nukige for me but I skipped most of story crap except for hscenes and some context for them took me about 5ish hours

>>45863293

>>45863293
>>45863365
>>45863691
kek, no wonder carteloids hate muv luv

>>45863721
holy based

>>45863721
Filipinos, your response?

>>45831178
read Nega0

>>45862493
With how vamps are described, I can't see any case where she would need Kai's blood, even outside of h-scene. Artificial blood exist, and fresh blood doesn't do anything more than being good food, sadly

Where the FUCK can I see Subarashiki Hibi's CGs? It's not on Panda/Hitomi, and I can't find anything on Google/Yandex's results.

>>45863976
Did you try the gallery from the main menu?

>>45863976
Are you blind or something?

https://exhentai.org/g/1262746/d09c5d4955/
https://exhentai.org/g/799932/be3e216ced/

>>45864030
I'd like to do some research before considering whether it's worth playing.
>>45864039
Sorry, apparently I'm blind or something.

>>45864072
>I'd like to do some research before considering whether it's worth playing.
Enjoy getting spoiled.

>>45864087
It might be better to get spoiled than to never play the game because I'm afraid of how disgusting the H CGs might be.

>>45863976
>Subarashiki Hibi
A fellow philosopher-artist, I see.... Hehe... Not much of us around these days.... Isn't it? It can't be helped...

>>45864150
Sad that you'd rob yourself of experiencing it blind for such a reason. Yes, there's a few fucked up H scenes involving bestiality, gay rape and extreme bullying, the fact that the game is widely beloved in spite of that should tell you enough. You can just skip those scenes if you don't want to read them.

I looked at the CGs and there were some pretty bad ones, but I realized that I can just put the game on auto-play and read/skim from the Textractor window.

>>45852599
We live in chat GPT times, when this shit will be finally translated?

>>45864263
Why would you ask this in the Untranslated VN general?
>>45800963

>263
Why are NTRfags so braindead and cannot live without MTL?

>>45864281
because I randomly fall in to this threat by crawling around. But fine gonna go and ask around in that other hole.

>>45864305

>>45864150
>never play the game because I'm afraid of how disgusting the H CGs might be.
what a fucking basedboy fuck off back to plebbit

Are there any games where the protagonist drinks a lot of energy drinks so I can self-insert more easily? Or a heroine like that so I can feel a deeper connection to her?

>>45864789
Tsukikana

>>45864789
>sir
Is this the JAV thread?

>>45864897
Blatant product placement in my eroge?

>>45864590
Why people think that everyone is sitting on their ass all the time and have nothing to do. Also back when I have a little more time I tried to learn Japan but in the end I give up. Now I would rather invest that time in to learning how to draw and make my own game. Not to mention that first of all I had to learn English to even read and write here.

>>45865182
Too bad, so sad. Enjoy eating EOP slop in the other thread or fuck off.

>>45865182
>Not to mention that first of all I had to learn English
I guess that failed as well judging by those sentences you just wrote.

>>45865182
ai art is better than your trash will ever be and no, no one asked for your sob story, now fuck off

>>45865182
>Not to mention that first of all I had to learn English to even read and write here.
You mean you wasted your time on deliberately "studying" English with boring classes/textbooks instead of reading/listening to natural English? Well, we can tell that by how good your English is.
No wonder you think learning Japanese is a herculean task rather than just reading interesting things and thus getting better at it.

>>45863721
Irisdina's jokes were all pretty top tier.

>>45865182
>Why people think that everyone is sitting on their ass all the time and have nothing to do
The problem comes from the following mindset:
>"I want to play this niche japanese game because I (presumably) like similar japanese things."
>"Why is the game not in English, the most spoken language in the world?!"
>"No, I'm not going to spend my time learning the language for the thing I like, because I think it's them who should be translating the game into MY language!"

A translated game's text will never be as good and nuanced as the original.
Not that EOPs would care, of course. If they cared they'd at least try to do something about it. Like using a text hooker, for starters. Even MTL can be a part of the learning process if it's used to learn the language.

>>45865611
>MTL can be a part of the learning process
lol

>>45865629
Who do you think is more likely to start learning japanese?
Someone who always waits for translations and does nothing? Or someone who really wants to understand what's going on and resorts to using MTL?

>>45865629
because whenever retards uses MTL they just use it to translate the whole sentence while leaving in names and fictional terms, and they never think about how it resulted in the final output, someone who bothers to think about these things would already have an advantage over people who just blindly trust MTL

>>45865611
>Even MTL can be a part of the learning process if it's used to learn the language.
No it can't, now that people are starting to """learn""" japanese with AI shit it will create a new generation of dekinais because they aren't learning anything, they are just following whatever the computer says, like the good npcs they are.

>>45865692
The former. Because MTLcucks delude themselves into thinking they're getting an experience "good enough" and get comfy with it, while non-MTLcuck EOPs still have some desire to learn Japanese.

>>45865692
>Someone who always waits for translations and does nothing? Or someone who really wants to understand what's going on and resorts to using MTL?
probably neither
only acceptable usage of mtl is attempting to read with mtl, realizing how fucking bad mtl is and starting to learn language properly
>>45865703
>someone who bothers to
someone who bothers to would never use mtl to begin with, sweetheart
lol
I've seen people claiming they learned language with mtl, but then they never stop using mtl, like they totally COULD stop, but they don't want yada yada
mtlers are delusional creatures who just all their time reading mtl output instead of using their own brain in order to learn shit

>>45865768
>only acceptable usage of mtl is attempting to read with mtl, realizing how fucking bad mtl is and starting to learn language properly
>someone who bothers to would never use mtl to begin with, sweetheart
you just said what I said

Using machine translation actually cultivates a superior form of reading where you constantly have to use your imagination while thinking about multiple possibilites of meaning and developing a high contextual awareness, questioning every word and seeing every sentence as multiple possible sentences, composing your own story simultaneously to fill in the gaps and calculating uncertainties while contemplating the nature of ambiguity. Readers of Japanese just passively access memorised and thus already stagnant data, while MTL readers actively engage with the text on a much more fundamental level, being intellectually more in tune with the writer's intention and the truth of the text.

shut the fuck up about MTL you easily baited retards

never used mtl or hookoid shit. never will. simple as.

>>45865804
want a medal or something?

>>45865826
sorry for offending you.

Fuck, is it going to be like Dies Irae? with every heroines but the last one getting a bad end? I already feel bad for Kuranosuke

>>45865838
apology accepted

>>45859235
its cringe to want everyone to die bc things aren't going good everywhere like why not try to make things better instead narcissistic brainlet

>>45865869
>its cringe to want everyone to die bc things aren't going good everywhere
For a moment I thought I was in a different thread.

>>45865869
That's kino though

>>45865869
Humanity was a mistake

I recommend Toono Monogatari. Peak folklore kino. And you can read it on Aozora.

https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001566/files/52504_49667.html

People here shit on hookfags, but how are you supposed to look up words otherwise (when you don't know the reading)? Radical search on J*sho or Google handwriting or some shit?

>>45865990
Yes.

>>45862870
I felt it too, but isn't that the case for every plotge? Most of the time, scenes are written with a meaning in mind, be it a bit of lore, foreshadowing, characterization, bonding with friends, or whatever.

>>45865908
It's crazy that this medium is so niche and so full of autistics. EOPs? seething every day from consuming shitty translations and many still crying because of the cartel legacy. MTLers? they read untranslated shit, but they are literally reading shit and it hurts them when they are reminded of that (it's even worse when they try to defend the incomprehensible shit they read and try to deny the reality that just like EOPs, they are reading fanfics). JOPbros? can read untranslated shit, but many are so autistic that they can't help but reply to any attempt to negate their years of efforts. At this point it is tragicomic. A medium full of retards whose only point of validity in life is reading fucking eroges. It feels good to read my eroges in peace and enjoy this clown comedy as a spectator

>>45865990
>look up words
You don't.

>>45865953
Fix it bit by bit. Starting with you.

How is the first White Album compared to the second one?

>>45866054
Why start with the best humanity has to offer?

>>45866016
You're not a spectator but an actor whose purpose is in a relegation of comforting the audience who neither participate in any VN indulgence nor care much for any /jp/ media; tourists by every means --people like me-- will be whom you entertain forever in this play going by the title:
'エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General'
Thanks for doing a great job.

>>45866098
based mercurius

>>45865869
I've always considered the world of planetarian beautiful because it means humanity can start things again.

>>45866098
but anon...by posting you are no longer a spectator...

>>45866016
This medium can only be enjoyed by the outliers from society, the average normalfag won't ever read a book, let alone a book in a powerpoint presentation, so you are bound to run into many eccentric people if you want to discuss this medium. Rejoice because at the very least the medium itself auto-gatekeeps itself.

>>45866042
Then how do I learn the meaning when the context isn't clear enough?
And how do I learn the reading?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtkXihbgFA

>>45866172
by learning japanese

>>45866225
Then how do you define "learning Japanese" other than reading native text and looking up words? Going to boring university classes or playing shitty apps like Duolingo?

>>45865990
Take an educated guess at the reading, or draw it. The point is that if you know Japanese well enough to read most things comfortably, coming across kanji you don't know will be a rare occurrence, so having to look it up manually is not a big deal. Conversely, if you still get stumped by unknown words and kanji often enough that it'd be uncomfortable without something like a texthooker, it's very likely your reading comprehension and general Japanese knowledge is not as good as you think it is, and those who shit on hookfags don't want to talk to people like that for the same reason they don't want to talk to MTL users or EOPs.

>>45866256
by being taught it the same way everyone else was by your parents and environment

>>45865990
You're supposed to hook and make fun of hookfags at the same time autismo-kun

>>45865990
if you don't have one of these you will never learn japanese
https://www.amazon.co.jp/電子辞書本体/b?node=3481181

>average hookoid be like >>45866346

>>45866297
>it's very likely your reading comprehension and general Japanese knowledge is not as good as you think it is
Then how do I increase it without frequently looking up words, genius
>>45866310
I wasn't born in Japan nor I ever set foot there
>>45866352
Is there a software equivalent of this (preferably open source)? I don't want to waste hundreds of dollars on Amazon toys,

>>45866310
So you're saying a person that grew up in Japan will never in their life have the need to look up the meaning of a word?

>>45866453
It's simple. Read stuff appropriate for your level and gradually increase the difficulty as you get better.

>>45866453
are you monolingual?

>>45866453
anon it's a fucking digital dictionary stop being autistic

>>45866181
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm43201513
>>45866069
Forgettable, beside Rina's route, at best

>>45866466
Everything is equal in difficulty.

>>45866484
Clearly not for you if you need external software.

some people should simply accept that they do not have the brains to learn certain things

>>45866466
I'm still a noob so everything requires some word lookups unless it's some braindead gakimuke manga or SoL anime.

>>45866497
This. Westoids can't learn Japanese.

>>45866473
No, believe it or not English is my third language. But what does that have to do with anything?
>>45866475
But it's expensive...

>>45866537
Then use free digital dictionaries.

>>45866475
How is anon the autistic one when you're telling him to get a secondary device to use as dictionary to play porn games?

>>45866537
then I don't understand why you feel the need to ask truisms when you already know the steps of learning a new language. I assume you are a newfag here who doesn't understand thread interactions

>>45866069
I played it recently and I found it to be firmly OK. Don't expect much from it and like the other anon said Rina's route is unquestionably the peak. Also the gameplay is a chore.

>>45866580
But Japanese differs in having a partially logographic writing system.

>>45866642
No it doesn't

>>45866346
>You're supposed to hook and make fun of hookfags at the same time autismo-kun
this
I help others to hookcuck shit just to make other people seethe while occasionally making fun of other hookfags

>>45866707
Thank you for opening my eyes and changing my outlook on the Japanese language, anon

>>45866352
Why tf would anyone buy this?

>>45866181
this might sound retarded but MADs and vn openings were some of the things that provided the most motivation in my nip studying
the uta one was huge as well and i get really nostalgic over it

>>45866091
>best
>on 4chan
>best

>>45866523
Westoids in general are weak when it comes to language proficiency.

>>45866853
Yeah, a good opening can make you really hyped. For example the Sakura Moyu one.

>>45865804
>or hookoid shit
Why not?
It makes dictionary lookups so much easier.

>>45866310
I don't have a Japanese mommy or daddy to stand by my shoulder as I read porn games and explain to me the meanings of all the words.

>>45866453
Just hook until you get to the level he mentioned, don't take those posts so seriously.

>>45867109
Because I can show off to anonymous people on the internet that I learned Japanese inefficiently.

>>45867146
That can be arranged with the right amount of money.

>>45867212
＞ｔ．　ｒｉｃｈｆａｇ　（ｆｒｅｅｍａｓｏｎ）

>>45866765
I believe his point is that despite kanji making things different, ultimately the language works in words just like any other language, and there are people who became fluent but never literate (not recommended), just like any other language. I get what you mean though, when you first get into Japanese it often feels like maybe Japanese people are putting onyomi together in their heads as they hear speech but eventually you realize nope it's just words (outside of kanji puns and the like)

Do you guys read two or more novels at the same time? If you get bored of one you switch to another one and so on?

>>45865989
Thanks for the rec bro

>>45867238
Yes, different genres for lighthearted and more heavy reading

>>45867238
No

Does anyone know how to install Pieta ~Shiawase no Aoi Tori~ ? I can only run it once before it starts to ask for the discs again, I know it comes with a no CD patch but I don't understand how to use it.

>>45867238
I would never cheat on my current heroine

>>45867372
Can you run it with the disc inserted?

>>45867441
Only the first time you run it, next time it tells you you need the cd even though I have both of them mounted. Problem is I fucked around with it to the point the launcher gives me the option to uninstall it (even though I don't have the game installed) and I can't install the game because it thinks I already have it, so yeah.

>>45865989
Also please recommend more aozora free high-quality stuff

>>45867482
>even though I have both of them mounted
Found your problem. Unmount disc 1 and mount disc 2 to the same drive.

>>45867494
try some tanizaki zyunnitirō

>>45867516
I'm pretty sure I already tried something like that, thing is I can't do that anymore because I don't have the game installed nor can I install it again for reasons I already stated In my previous posts, It's over.

>>45867546
Test it in another machine. You can't possibly only have one computer.

>>45867546
Are you actually using physical discs instead of ISOs?

>>45867618
Of course not. The whole CD thing seems to be an universal issue since the game comes with a patch that says "no CD", I just fucked with the discs and the install so much that now I can't seem to make anything work.

>>45867545
>tanizaki zyunnitirō

any specific novel or work to start with the dude?

>>45866575
because I wasn't the guy who posted them

>>45865990
>J*sho or Google
why did you censor Jisho but not Jewgle?

>>45867725
Can you not insult Google? It's a great search engine that will actually help you learn Japanese unlike J*sho.

>>45867744
chatGPT generated post I think
Google has gotten so bad you can now scientifically prove it in studies

>>45867482
Well uninstall it then.
If the installer bugs out just remove it from the registry

>>45867546
>>45867662
open the isos, copy the files into the folder it used to be installed to, uninstall, reinstall?

>>45867574
why would anyone need more than one computer?..

>>45867908
Rather, why would anyone have just one computer? Sounds far more nonsensical.

>>45867787
I don't think that's how it works.
>>45867774
It doesn't even appear in Apps and Features, I'll look for it in the registry.

>>45867725
Sorry, I forgot to.

>>45867949
>I don't think that's how it works.
why? most eroge you can copy the files from disc and run without installing. in your case there are registry keys involved that prevent uninstalling. you could mess around with the registry but isn't it easier to copy the file to the location in the registry? the installer will then let you uninstall since it finds the files again. I've done this before. also in the future before you mess around with install files you should make a copy of the folder. when you mess up you can overwrite with the copy.

>>45867372
I got it to boot without even installing. Just dump the contents of the 2 isos into a folder. Then overwrite the exes with the nocd ones.

>>45868148
Can you close it and run it again? If you can then I don't fucking know what I did desu

>>45868154
Yes. Are you booting with the right file? PietaRun exe

>>45868189
Yeah, also, by
>with the nocd ones.
you mean the ones the installed folder creates? or the patch? I former I don't have, I couldn't get it to uninstall.

>>45868269
Also, I can only open the launcher exe in the cd, the folder with the combined contents of the 2 disks pops up an error, the same one that appeared when I tried to start the game a second time once I installed it. The patch doesn't seem to work neither.

Is there some kind of handheld or tablet that's well suited to playing VNs on?

>>45868349
I don't know what you're doing but the version on a-s worked for me.

>>45868487
I downloaded it from Ryuugames, what is a-s

>>45868518
I understand the problem now

>>45868518
I got the ryuu version because I was curious. Bro you didn't even read the instructions.
>「pieta.exe」のショートカットを作り、引数「run」をあたえてください。以後このショートカットから実行してください。

>>45868634
...Yeah

>>45868647
bro, anon is a newfag who does not know japanese

>>45868518
If you search for visual novels on Yandex you might find this site.

>>45868647
>Anon realizes he was talking to a mtler all this time

>>45868771
What's the problem with MTL? It's a genuine way of appreciating untranslated works and maybe even learning the language.

>>45868835
>umiretard
yeah
Hide
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>>45868872
you MTLed it didnt you??

>>45868835
This, so much this Umisister! What's your favorite Subahibi chapter by the way?

umineko sisters this is not a good look for us...

>>45868771
Getting grouped together with a newfag who can't follow instructions stings more than the usual insult for using MTL #notallmtlersarethatretarded

alright game i'll be watching
if i see one single peep out of you along the lines of one of the heroines going
>wow your hands are so big and manly
i will laugh you out of the park

>>45868835
Elitism and even more so desperation. Desperation because they realize that AI, especially LLMs make all the years they spent learning Japanese pointless and a waste of time. LMAO fucking loosers.

The text censure in the ps version of Hatsuyuki sakura is pretty funny

>>45869152
The original btw

>>45868970
To be fair, I personally separate my life to pre-Subahibi and post-Subahibi periods, as reading it has completely changed how I view the world. It was when I read Jabberwocky 2 was when I made my decision. The non MTLers should really give this VN a chance.

「幸福に生きよ！」- SCA-JI.

How do I begin tackling Subahibi as a high school dropout? I want to understand its philosophies and its art but I lack the necessary intelligence.

>>45869152
>>45869159
Why censor this

>>45868455
surface shill here, surface tablets are good, i use a surface go for eroge and it can run most stuff fine, though the odd slowdown happens with a few titles and gameplay stuff is basically remote desktop time

Did she understand Wittgenstein on a deeper meta level, or was she just namedropping quotes randomly?

In all seriousness, are there VN like 素晴らしき日々 but actually good?

>>45869272
The is one of the quotes of all time.

>>45869314
There is nothing of value there. It's just pretentious nonsense. If there's something Inhate, it's motherfuckers writing nonsensical shit about how Subahibi changed their life. It's a fucking eroge. Read it for the cute young pussys and fap to the h-scenes. Nothing wrong about that. Fucking pretentious faggots.

uwaaaa /vn/ and mtlers scums woke up. uwaaaa it feels good to know Japanese and not be embarrassed when I share my analysis with my JOPbros (because I'm not reading fanfics). it feels good to be able to enjoy my weeb shit where I want, when I want and how I want

>>45869373
>It's a fucking eroge.
And? Eroge is almost always higher quality than ""real"" literature.

>>45869373
don't reply to bait like that, please

>>45869349
https://vndb.org/v15795

>>45869381
Real literature is also pretentious. Especially nowadays with all those woke subhuman authors. LMAO

>>45869381
This. It's the only form or high art really left in the world and I say this fully unironically.

>>45869377
by the way, I'm not reading vns right now, but a ln (physical by the way). it feels good to be able to understand what the text is really saying as I run my fingers over the pages. my condolences, mtlers and /vn/ subhumans, you never ever

>>45869400
When someone uses the word pretentious unironically you can 100% know it's mtler because there is no way one can learn Japanese with the negative iq

>>45869373
>fap to the h-scenes
This, so much this Subasister! I love fapping to bestiality and gay rape!

>>45869424
It literally pretends to be something it's not. Most 'literature' today isn't genuine but an EPIC meta subversion.

Subasisters, how will we recover?! I'm writing this while sitting on a rooftop under the End Sky...

>>45869450
Name something genuine for you

>>45869466
Basically any VN that is not Subahibi or Subahibi adjacent.

>>45869466
https://vndb.org/v1484

>>45869479
what didn't you like about subahibi bro?

>>45869492
He's homophobic and zoophobic. And he thinks the "live happily" message contradicts his transphobic beliefs.

>>45869492
It's not genuine and has too much EPIC meta subversion.

>>45869492
It doesn't present an answer to the questions it poses and hand waves everything away with "JUST 幸福に生きよ BRO!".
>>45869501
Live happily is precisely the belief that allows this garbage to exist in our world though.

>>45869444
Yeah the gay shit was garbage. But I like bestiality. From the perspective of seeing a bitch humiliated and devolve into shame orgasms. That's also why Ugly Bastard is such good shit. Seeing pussies humiliated. Always gets me hard like crazy.

>>45869520
>>45869523
That doesn't tell me anything bro. Explain in more detail your personal appreciations

are you fucking kidding me this is another part of fucking retards can't explain why they don't like something?

any cartel member > any faggot on this thread