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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nsw2u.com/witch-on-the-holy-night-switch-nsp
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story):
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Witch on the Holy Night Material
https://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://pastebin.com/zz8z62qp
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime Complete Pack (Tsukihime, PLUS+DISC, Kagetsu Tohya):
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Tsukihime OG Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1591168
Tsukihime Manga (Arcueid's route):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>MELTY BLOOD
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MELTY BLOOD Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]:
https://nyaa.si/view/1691072
Fate/hollow ataraxia:
https://nyaa.si/view/1732011
Fate/zero
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/zero.html
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.html
Clock Tower 2015:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.html
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.html
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
BAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)
https://tri-hermes.org/bamboo.html
Carnival Phantasm (made in celebration of Type-Moon's 10th anniversary)
https://nyaa.si/view/550820
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Materials
https://tri-hermes.org/materials.html
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca

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>>45758753
How is it so goddamn hard for artists to remember that
RIDER
HAS
RECTANGULAR
PUPILS

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>>45758878
Medusa confirmed to be not a snake but in fact a goat.

>> No.45759176

Stop making early threads.

>> No.45759242
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>>45758753
Purple love!

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>>45759242

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>>45759279

>> No.45759312

>>45758878
>>45758988
Wait, hold on
>the retangular pupils of a goat allow them a large horizontal field of view with more limited vertical field, which is somewhat irrelevant considering their size
>Rider's eyes are 90 degrees to a goat's
Holy shit she must have the worst tunnel vision possible

>> No.45759352

>>45759312
Well yeah, how do you think Poseidon rapred her so easily? She never saw him sneaking up on her.

>> No.45759413

Poseidon didn't rape Medusa in the Nasuverse, right?
That's even weirder now because the gacha states that Poseidon is actually a rapist robot.

>> No.45759528

>>45759413
>Poseidon didn't rape Medusa in the Nasuverse, right?
Nah. Maybe Nasu thought the reason Medusa was turned into a gorgon was too cruel even for him.

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>>45759176
Stop posting in them then

>> No.45759678

>>45759625
?

>> No.45759696

>>45759678
I s***d so it's daijoubu

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Literally nothing wrong with early threads

>> No.45759715

>>45759700
It's embarrassing having 2 threads on the board for no reason.
Makes us look like crossboarding cancer.

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>>45759715
Yeah, I'm sure all of /jp/ is giving us the stink eye for taking the spot of one of the hundred 2hu spam threads...

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>>45759751
We are.

>> No.45760234

>>45758753
RIDER SEX

>> No.45760262

So this is interesting. If you're female Hakuno and Emiya is your servant, Melt is in love with him, not you.

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>>45760262
forgot pic

>> No.45760293

>>45760277
I do like that ikemen outfit Archer is just mid-20s Shirou. When did he start wearing glasses though?

>> No.45760499

>>45760293
They're purely cosmetic, he wears them because he thinks they make him look stylish.

>> No.45761299

>>45760262
She is a tsundere around him in FGO.

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>> No.45762797

Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

>> No.45762816

>>45760277
>luck with women

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>>45760277
>>45762816
He has ALL the luck with men

>> No.45763142

>>45763068
Imagine if the roles were reversed.

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Does this count as cheating?

>> No.45763555

>>45763229
Saber…why would you do this…

>> No.45763764

>>45763229
100%

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>> No.45763959

>>45763555
>>45763764
is eating another man cooking as bad as slurping his cum?

>> No.45763973

>>45763959
Worse even

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/tmg/ won

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>>45762816
he straight up admits he had absurd pussy game in his lifetime, anon
he totally got with at least one of the Aozakis at some point

>> No.45764269

>>45764249
No wonder he managed to fuck Ciel

>> No.45764282

>>45764269
pretty sure you'd have an easier time naming which powerful women he didn't plow

>> No.45764287

>>45764282
Saber

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>>45764287

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>>45763229

>> No.45764735

>>45764269
Obligatory no.

>> No.45764809

>>45764249
He is lying.

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>>45764249
people that claim as such generally have a pretty pathetic pussy game. not to mention mumei is build like a shrimp, and most likely inherited shirou's cock.

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I've finished CCC Chapter 2 yesterday and I've started to really appreciate Jinako. She's cute.

>> No.45765235

>>45765208
it's nice to meet a fellow neet in the world of extraordinary people

>> No.45765261

bruh, i forgot she's also an outstanding gamer and also kinda rich

>> No.45765320

>>45765235
The whole reason she was put in the game was the devs asking Nasu if he could put an otaku in the story who actually seems to understand how crazy this all is when the magi see the events as normal. She's basically an isekai character that refuses to become a hero.

>> No.45765372

>>45765320
>had effectively fourth wall-breaking observations
>gets the coolest, strongest hero ever
>everyone here wants to fuck her
Checks out

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>> No.45765520

>>45765493
I recognize that artist. Nice Sion.

>> No.45765523

>>45765065
>lack of bulge
What the fuck. Archer has a small pp?

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>> No.45765589

Archer is a very tender and sensitive individual. Quite emotional.

>> No.45765651

DONT MAKE FUN OF ARCHER

>> No.45765661

>>45765520
I don't linkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Aaaahh i want to fuck Sion

>> No.45765698

At least Lancer retains rights to his bulge.

>> No.45765709

>>45763959
You slurp another man cum because of lust but eat his cooking because of love so it's worse

>> No.45765723

>>45764287
I felt that

>> No.45765751

I wonder how much porn Jinako got because of fgo
probably nothing

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>> No.45765832

Cum doesn’t actually have magical or symbolic properties

>> No.45765880

>>45765661
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/973926

>> No.45765902

>>45765670
>>45765493
Does Ries join in when Shiki's with Sion and Satsuki?

>> No.45765912

>>45765832
My cum does

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Wonder who roa was talking about here. SHIKI doesn't fit in as someone that shiki wishes to antagonize at all.

>> No.45766103

>>45765832
But it is good for you.

>> No.45766192

>>45766045
Kouma?

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Vlov is so cool.....

>> No.45766350

Is there a lore explanation on why everyone from the main cast of F/SN is in Extra, except for Shirou?

>> No.45766390

>>45766350
Look again

>> No.45766395

>>45766350
For the SN characters I assumed it's for the same reason Nero looks like Artoria; just for a familiar face to show up to make money and draw interest to the game
Especially since none of the SN characters in Extra are the same as their counterparts with Shinji being a different person, Rin being the daughter of Tokiomi's bastard child, and Sakura being an AI
As for Shirou I assumed Archer is sufficient enough but I would've loved to see regular Shirou just out and about

>> No.45766397

>>45766192
I wonder. Red garden could be such a masterpiece. Praying Nasu finds a way to fit in things like Red demon God and maybe even Arihiko's backstory from Kt.

>> No.45766809

>>45766397
>>45766045
The answer is likely
>>45766192
There is no one who fits the role of Shiki's nemesis more than the CRV. Not only biologically and thematically as an Exorcist and Demon God but narratively as the one who lead to the creation of the current Shiki and stole from Nanaya his future. His image of death that must be overcome. The crimson mirage he saw in his deepest memories. Something Shiki has forgotten. The rage Dantes seems to hint at and the nemesis who is far too mighty. A rivalry foreshadowed within the battle of Kiri vs Kouma as only a master of death, a broken being could challenge Kouma equally. We see their rivalry in MB. Shiki does have many rivals and potential future adversaries(Enhance, Rizo, SHIKI, Roa, Saiki, Nero, Vlov, Arc simps, Arc and Akiha in some capacity, Lorelei etc) But none as personal as Kouma. No one who Shiki could kill for his own sake.

>> No.45767182

Archer is a grower not a shower

>> No.45767448

>>45766809
And yet for all that, Kouma doesn't really give a shit. The only times he's ever shown emotion is when someone managed to get past his iron skin and actually hurt him.

Ngl, I hate even the idea of Shiki beating Kouma in a fight. Not just because he's not-Akuma but because he was stated to be, back in the day, basically 1 of 2 "humans", that can fight on the level of a Servant, the other being Ciel who Nasu said would have to fight a defensive battle against one.

>> No.45767483

>>45767448
Have we ever actually seen the real flesh and blood Kouma outside if that flashback in the manga? It's always a dream or a TATARI or something, dude is just chilling in the mountains with his animal friends and the tv he swiped when kicked out of the Tohno mansion.

>> No.45767498

>>45767483
Lumina

>> No.45767522

>>45767498
Oh right, he just shows up because he sensed a vampire and decided he was going to eliminate it

>> No.45767528

>>45767448
It's kind of just something inevitable should they cross. Might not result in death since their characters could move beyond it given how they are but it's also the kind of thing that you might not be able to help. Like a mongoose and a cobra bumping into one another. That feeling of being alive on the verge of death or just fulfilling their natural impetus as wolves or outsiders in the world.

>> No.45767562

>>45767522
Yep, he also gets mentioned in F/SF.

>> No.45767576

>>45767448
>he was stated to be, back in the day, basically 1 of 2 "humans", that can fight on the level of a Servant
It depends on the servant. He's never going to beat one of the extreme heavy hitters like Karna or Gawain at noon. If he could actually hit him and the dude wasn't immortal, maybe in a super lucky scenario he could beat Achilles. But like, he can probably beat dudes like Hundred Faces Assassin, he can probably beat Drake if Golden Hind doesnt go off, he can probably beat Robin Hood by seeing through his concealment via sheer demon instinct. He can probably even beat Medusa.

>> No.45767581

>>45767448
>still thinking Servants are hot shit
lmao. Not only was Shiki able to fight Servants in MBTL, but Iori in Sam Rem proves normal humans from the past could fight Servants with training, and Shiki is the result of generations of in-breeding so he might as well be a human from the past anyway.

>> No.45767589

>>45767581
>Iori in Sam Rem proves normal humans from the past could fight Servants with training
A lot of servants are straight up weaker than they were in life, but that's just because humanity has weakened immensely with modernity.

>> No.45767617

>>45764489
>spouse refused to feed you
>beat the spouse up
ancient British wife beater

>> No.45767629

>>45767589
And there are those who are stronger or just in general get things from their myth and legend added. And fame boosts. Circumstances matter etc. In general Nasu seems to think skilled humans could pull it off if ready to die.
>>45767581
Yeah, ain't shit. Kouma no diffs them since he's a potential CRV and would go fuck with DAA.

>> No.45767645

>>45767589
Nanaya are probably not affected by this as much having led a secluded life in the mountains for generations.

>> No.45767656

>>45767617
Did Wales win or lose a match to make her so upset?

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>>45767629
Even Arc thinks Kouma's constitution is weird.

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>>45767448
It's time to move on grandpa, servants aren't shit anymore. Remake Akiha is portrayed as a talent born every 10k/year, but that won't change the fact that her fate is to have her throat slashed in a bad ending by Shiki going full autismo.

>> No.45767719

>>45767645
Nasu said the whole civilization thing is reflected in how freaks are still born when talking about how superhumans stopped being born as human civ advanced. Shiki whose from the only clan still combating demons and isolated in the mountains and doing such heavy sisterfucking that their powers are solid is likely the poster child for superhuman freak.

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>>45765065

>> No.45767783

>>45767719
>>45767645
>>45767691
>Shiki with zero experience gets horny and develops superhuman senses.
>"Nanaya" is kind of like revealing his true animalistic nature and distancing himself from society.
The power of the mind's state affecting the body.

>> No.45767838

>>45767691
>Ushi one of the most famous HS in japan
>Speedster
>Swordsman with magic-like stuff
>Lol, small blade. I'll take your head
>I kneel tohno-san. *fangirl* moves in.

>> No.45767868

>>45764489
And off to the Tiger Dojo we go.

>> No.45767876

>>45767675
Kouma is wierd because anyone else with heavy oni blood would go insane and die. Kouma didn't both from a combination of sheer willpower and the fact that he was never sane to begin with.

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>>45764489
>This is what Shirou see when he arrives to Avalon

>> No.45767883

>>45767656
Don't you mean English?

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>>45767883
The land King Arthur comes from in myth would today be considered part of Wales.

>> No.45767911

>>45767879
Cute. "I been waiting for a long time. Now feed me"

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I really like the way this scene was written in Kagetsu, as I think it represents the pair very well, and the way the two are in total harmony and peace with each other. Hisui was really Nanaya Shiki's first childhood friend, and the one who helped him when he was at his lowest. The memories may be fragments of the past which have been long since forgotten, but their connection and the way they are comfortable with each other without words speaks for itself. I can't wait to see how the mushroom will write the different character dynamic of Red Garden. A lot of potential for each routes.

>> No.45768412

Post your headcanon
Mine is that vampires and oni are related

>> No.45768442

>>45768412
Dr. Boobs is really Lisa Garland.

>> No.45768453

>>45768412
Vampires did 9/11

>> No.45768457

>>45758753
Boob sandwich.

>> No.45768490

Nanaya has a surprisingly good singing voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy3D1sHFOM

>> No.45768515

What is the scene where you think the soundtrack complements the scene best in the KnK movies 1-4? I'm currently working on a web-based text sound novel of the book, and need to pick out some scenes to test the audio.

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>>45764321
That's what you deserve for not getting enough saber points.

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Why does he look so much better with glasses on

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>>45767935
>>45767916
It's always cute to see a Saber eat

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>> No.45768910

>>45767581
>>45767691
Honestly I don't know why this bothers me because back in the day, I fucking hated it when Nasu said "Tsukihime characters who aren't Arc ain't SHIT compared to servants, they're the new hotness, gtfo vampire stories".
And yet this reversal bothers me too.

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>tfw no cute little bong girl to fall in love with you and your cooking

>> No.45769003

>>45768442
What does this mean in context? Lisa was just a victim. Arach doesn't seem to be anything but a perpetrator.

>> No.45769142

Witch on the holy night just updated but it was only bug fixes. Sigh.

>> No.45769175

>>45769142
How do you get bugs in a fucking VN? If I take this route I fall through the world?

>> No.45769200

>>45769175
Probably doesn't let you progress after a point

>> No.45769312

When Tsukihime remake is completed, is it going to be Nasu's longest VN? Unless he decides to do something like merge Hisui & Kohaku's route.
>>45769175
That's one way of reaching the root lol

>> No.45769371
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>>45768912
>>45768939
>>45768907
I CAN'T TAKE IT, SHE'S TOO FUCKING CUTE

>> No.45769394

>>45765709
This. Archer blowing her back out would've been less of a betrayal

>> No.45769406

>>45768727
Because he just does >>45760277

>> No.45769641
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>CCC
>Hakuno has all 3 command seals
aren't they supposed to have 1 or 2 cs because of events of the first Extra?

>> No.45769659

>>45769641
The way the timeline works in CCC is...wonky. It takes place simultaneously after round 5 of the tournament (so right before you would kill Rin because according to CCC, you saved Rani and fought Arc in round 4), but also during the prelims.

>> No.45769683

>>45769659
ah, F/ha style glitches. according to Jinako's and Shinji's dialogue in the Meltlilith chapter, someone has made it past the 7th round

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>>45769683
Buckle up homestuck, it gets even crazier.
BB won literally before the preliminaries even began rendering the race to stop her from reaching the core pointless, because the Moon Cell core has control over time and space so the exact milisecond she breached it, reality was rewritten such that she had ALWAYS breached it and was responsible for bringing the world to ruin in that flashback in Extra

>> No.45769741

>>45769695
>think she's flashing pantsu at me all game
>it's actually just a leotard that she's wearing a skirt and coat over

>> No.45769815

>>45769741
it's somehow more erotic that way, honestly

>> No.45769900
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You SLUT

>> No.45769953
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NEET meets NEET

>> No.45770078

>>45767838
>>45767691
>>45768910
Everything about Shiki fucking bothers me since he virtually never worked for the skills that complement his MEODP, just pure talent and genetics that suddenly kick in because of nearby demons/vampires. He never worked for that skill which makes any such accomplishment feel nothing more than Gary stu wanking. At least Shirou despite all of his wrong training at least worked autistically to reach an unparalleled level of weapon copy.

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>>45770078
shirou please get off 4chan and make saber dinner already

>> No.45770096

>>45767675
>>45767629
>>45767581
>>45767576
>>45767448
Narita seemed to confirm generally DAAs at 100% idea blood seem to be on par with Ishtar or along those lines (At least until Nasu gets off his lazy ass or just doesn't care about power levels). Their Idea bloods generally are EX NP equivalents and the higher tiers are top tier. Vlov was the exception in the sense he has strength, durability and good regen but not the level of skill/control. He wielded the principle the equivalent of a baby holding a club.

>> No.45770110

>>45770096
makes sense considering Vlov's circumstances

>> No.45770135

>>45770110
Vlov would lose out to more skilled individuals and his fellow higher tiers who would likely hold higher mysteries and skill had he not had his idea blood, Kouma beat him but even he acknowledged if he was not careful, it would have been dangerous within his arcade ending. And Kouma more or less matches average or at least above average servants depending on whatever the fuck Nasu even at this point. Basically, anything that has good intelligence and not a phenomenon more or less, at the highest rank of DA, at least has a lived a millenia, and wield idea bloods skillfully can give higher tier servants a run for their money depending on type advantage.

>> No.45770175

>>45770078
>At least Shirou despite all of his wrong training at least worked autistically to reach an unparalleled level of weapon copy.
UBW Shirou stole from Archer experience while HF Shirou got Archer's arm.
Only Fate and Archer did the hard work to reach unparalleled level of weapon copy and it took them years at least.

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i want to perform nuclear fusion with this alien

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Can one use broken phantasms against dead apostles? Does that mean archer can fight against them by nuking with the spiral thingy?

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i like CCC prelims, it has that weird atmosphere that reminds me of Tsukihime
why did Nasu spiraled from this to boring fateslop?..

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i like CCC prelims, it has that weird atmosphere that reminds me of Tsukihime
why did Nasu spiral from this to boring fateslop?..

>> No.45770332

>>45770292
Anon, CCC is the epitome of "fateslop".

>> No.45770376

>>45770332
ССС and Ataraxia have some hope in them, but yes, after the prelims all we get is even worser fateslop with tons of boring psydive monologues

>> No.45770444

>if you use Rho Aias against Gae Bolg, Kotomine points out how Cu's spear has literally never worked when it counted

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>>45770444
Also, holy fuck the CCC optional bosses are hard. I've had to restart multiple times on each one, I don't know if I'm just underleveled or what. The Mystic Codes you get for beating them are hilariously OP though. I've still got 1 more left.

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Hey fuck you too buddy, it's not my fault the boss NPs are basically oneshots

>> No.45770504

>>45770466
>CCC optional bosses are hard
twice and tamamo are a little tricky, others can be beaten pretty straightforward

>> No.45770552

>>45770504
Yes, I didn't expect that Tamamo has effectively 2 hp bars because twice will max heal her the turn she uses her NP

>> No.45770565

gonna play Extra for the first time (and then CCC after)
should I go with Nero, Mumei, or Tamamo?

>> No.45770594

>>45770565
you can pick whoever you like, that's the point

>> No.45770606

>>45770565
Choice is honestly pointless besides dialogue
Think of them like different social links in persona

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Jesus that made me sweat

>> No.45770718 [SPOILER] 
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>>45770659
it's funny that in theory Twice's heal should cancel both Tamamo's and goldman's NPs

>> No.45770793

And there, beat the Archer route. 2 down, 2 to go, on to Tamamo.

>> No.45770804

>>45770096
>seems to confirm
Not Nasu. Not Tsukihime. World state influences their potential.
>DAA at 100%
Never implied. It was more of an ambiguous You'd need to be Ancestor level comparison.
Also this is coming from someone who can't even identify the level of a human who can compete with DAA accurately. It's also in a setting where human order is still strong and rejection of humanity is connected to the strength of the vampire so it's simple to see that they aren't as powerful as they would be in their setting.

>> No.45770883

>>45770718
I'm still upset that of all outfits for Gil, they didn't give us his black biker outfit.

>> No.45771210

by the way, how do i get 3rd Kiara's SG?

>> No.45771313

I will find and rape Arc

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>> No.45771341

>>45770135
Not sure where you get any of that but Kouma only said it was terrifying how even after all that Vlov was still holding back since he was protecting the souls of 10 which is something a solitary being like himself could not understand. This is about his wives blood and Kouma's hermitism and just means neither went all out.

>> No.45771423

>>45770078
>At least Shirou despite all of his wrong training at least worked autistically to reach an unparalleled level of weapon copy.
weapon copy, who for virtually no reason also give him combat experience, suddenly making able to trade blows with servants despite being a fucking NPC. shiroufags seething at other characters will always be funny when shirou is talentless compared to the average tsuki characters, solely carried due to MC plot armor

>> No.45771436

>>45770096
>Narita seemed to confirm generally DAAs at 100% idea blood seem to be on par with Ishtar or along those lines
No, Narita didn't confirm that shit at all. He merely had Jester state Ishtar's ability to charm inanimate objects was something only Ancestors can also do. Which if anything tells us how powerful DAA are, since it was never confirmed they can charm inanimate objects. It doesn't tell us how powerful full power Ancestors are.

Even the Child of Einashe in Fate can tank Gray's Ronghomyniad which can bust mountains and Van Fem's Golem in FSF can fight Bai Ruolong who has the powers of Typhoon. And all of the above pales in comparison to a proper Ancestor in Tsuki, so they are not even comparable.

>> No.45771447

>>45771436
>Van Fem's Golem in FSF
I meant in Adventures, but whatever.

>> No.45771486

>>45770135
>And Kouma more or less matches average or at least above average servants depending on whatever the fuck Nasu even at this point
Old lore, so irrelevant at this point. Unless you want to literally remove your brain.
>and wield idea bloods skillfully can give higher tier servants a run for their money depending on type advantage.
No, most Ancestors would completely annihilate most Servants simply due to the massive disparity in magical energy. It was stated Ciel in Remake soloed multiple final bosses, and she would be capable of doing the same if she were in Chaldea. So Ancestors in TsukiR are quite explicitly placed on the same category as the likes of Tiamat, Cernunnos, Surtr, etc. You're not having single Servants fight them. Compatibility only takes you so far.

>> No.45771548

>>45771486
Something something Beasts can't destroy the world. DA can overturn it. FGO only at the level it is because of Tsuki in response to will DAA be underwhelming relatively. DAA are final bosses out of the reach of even god-like beings(Don't TA scale higher technically? Not talking about Arc who goes even higher than Final Boss)

>> No.45771558

>>45771548
Going from planet to god is a nerf

>> No.45771561

>>45771548
All true. Funny how some dudes keep claiming TsukiR was boosted to match FGO when the Mushroom explicitly stated it was the other way around.

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I think Kouma is like not even showing a fraction of his power. He doesn't even go all red boy like he did in old melty. Crimson Red Vermillion is so hype. I want to see him completely turn.

>> No.45771716

>>45771313
I won't let you do that

>> No.45771718
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>>45769815
Ibaraki Douji do the same with a short kimono

>> No.45771748

>>45770175
>the Shirou in love with Rin and Sakura take the easy way to get stronger
>the Shirou in love with Saber got stronger with hard work
What did Nasu mean with this?

>> No.45771769

>>45771325
Sex with homeless cat girl

>> No.45771781
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canon

>> No.45771814
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>>45771748
Hard work good

>> No.45771914

>>45771781
Cute!

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>>45770078
He's just normal japanese highschool student, what are you talking about? But seriously talking, Shiki is a result of generations of breeding demon hunters. It's like getting mad at Cu or Karna being overpowered just because they're demigods. Shirou autistically worked on his projections (which is mostly thanks to his special talent/RM) but Nanaya clan autistically worked on creating someone like Shiki. His base specs might be higher but shit he will be fighting in the future is literally A tier of nasuverse so he most likely will have his own training arc (Executor Shiki or Satsujinki)

>> No.45772291

>>45771914
Men can’t be cute.

>> No.45772395

>>45771814
I love Wanko so much bros

>> No.45772426

did they add Sacchin route??

>> No.45772614

sacchin socks

>> No.45772661

Sex?

>> No.45772720

>>45772661
No thanks

>> No.45772759

sex with sacchin?

>> No.45772974

no way fag

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>> No.45773359

It’s not gay to want to touch Lancer’s Gae Bolg

>> No.45773480

is Lancer the only servant that follows grail war rules and tries to kill Shirou?
everyone else seems not to care about witnesses

>> No.45773541

>>45772094
I think this is still the most crazy example. Even demi-gods get training. Tohno is just basically a dangerous animal that snaps and trivializes any kind of skills built up over time. I actually like it since it's a pure case of genius, natural selection and the primal part of humanity, whose gained independence from the natural world, triumphing via instinct and animalistic design. In order to challenge monsters, the methods that have lead to the species weakness is no good. You need a wolf to combat another wolf and protect the herd.

>> No.45773561

>>45771486
>>45770804
>>45771341
>>45771436
> Still arguing over powerlevels
Jesus fucking christ. No one really fucking knows since Nasu will never write a comparison but he's a fucking inconsistent dumbass and doesn't give a shit about continuity. He spends his time playing video games and seethes that his reception was not up to expectations or some shit. We argue over their powerlevels despite the fact they are virtually never going to interact or go off of our own headcanon or you or anyone else decide to wank up your own series in circlejerk. Other author write in their own headcanon and quite frankly, Nasu doesn't really give a shit so long as he gets to play elden ring.

>> No.45773589

>>45773561
Been like this since 2004. Get comfy.

>> No.45773609

>>45771423
>solely carried due to mc plot armor
>says that when Shiki also counts as a suddenly able to use powers he never really worked for and gets power boost when things get desperate.
Same shades.
>>45772094
At least they worked and trained. That's
a terrible comparison. Shiki hardly even trained to maintain skills, just genetic that he ultimately never contributed until it suddenly peaked within his life until he met arc even though he never bothered to do so beforehand. Shiki Ryougi at least was trained in swordsmanship from a young age and adept later on in her series.

>> No.45773627

>>45771341
Did we even play the same arcade and go through the ending? What kind of headcanon are you scratching through? Where are you bringing up all this points through melty arcade?

>> No.45773717

>>45773561
I don't care what you think, Caren explicitly compared the DAA to the likes of FGO final bosses in the FGO Mats. Her profile explicitly written by Nasu. This is not wank, these are the author's words on the matter.
Now claiming Servants can solo DAA without any basis? Now that's wank. Since Servants have been fodder since FGO from a narrative standpoint
This is not a subjective powerlevel argument, it's about the narrative. And in terms of narrative Nasu considers DAA to be last bosses. So that's what they are.

>> No.45773782

Why are all the Beasts cute girls and all the Grand Servants hot men?

>> No.45773795
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>>45773627
Seems pretty clear to me. Maybe you don't understand the context of what he's referring to?

>> No.45773811

>>45773717
Can you bring it up or at least show the pic of her mentioning that? Or Nasu confirming? And even then, beasts and their powerscale vary.

>> No.45773812

>>45773782
Women are evil sluts and men are more reliable for getting things done.

>> No.45773826

>>45773795
Now I see, I haven't play through Kouma's arcade in like 2-3 years.

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>>45773609
Shiki was trained by Kiri when he was a kid and he is out of shape during Tsuki. It's just that his out of shape state is still way higher than average trained human because he's genetic freak. He will need train his body in the future if he's planning to be Arc guardian (Satsujinki) though because Arc enemies are worst monsters

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>>45773609
the difference is that shiki, unlike shirou, is not a random npc but the crystallization of an entire clan, and the son of DHO best demon hunter. besides kiri taught shiki, shiki was so talented that he was able to replicate kiri's movements merely by watching him. training with nanaya kiri is surely more valuable than anything shirou has learned from the world's greatest man-child. in any case, shiki's power works in the context of tsukihime's story because most characters are freak. if anything shiki looks cute compared to someone like akiha who is hyped to be a being born every 10k/year, or ciel despite being born from random npc inheriting crazy magic potential, or talent making her able to become a master in swordsmanship and archery in few years. if you label shiki as a gary stu, may as well apply the same standard for the other characters too.

>> No.45773877

>>45773843
Something about those circumstances doesn't feel rewarded. Even if there was a head start, it wasn't maintained. But then again, Nasu likes those circumstances which are basically cheat codes that were not really earned.

>> No.45773881

>>45773609
There is nothing bad about this. It's just eugenics. You breed animals for specific traits. Nanaya hyper focused on one thing, being the best killers and hunting monsters, since ancient days and they ended up as a lineage that produces members who are really good at it. They don't have the same kind of pursuit as Ryougi or anyone else. They aren't trying to produce someone capable of learning many skills. They just brought one act to the peak.

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>>45773811
>beasts and their powerscale vary
Every single one requires a team up of Servants to fight. Which is why Ciel soloing last bosses is mentioned as something impressive, because she is Ciel.

>> No.45773896

>>45773859
Yeah, a mary sue. Now I just realize why I dislike Tsukihime characters more than Fate. Thanks for pointing that out.

>> No.45773951
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>> No.45773952

>>45773896
The premise of Tsukihime is a one of a kind fated encounter and the achievement of the impossible. A gathering of outsiders(Those who only blend into the world of man in the light) in the night and events beyond human comprehension. A story that extends far into the past and the future. Everyone is supposed to be abnormal.

>> No.45773956

Ryougi is the only Mary Sue in the Nasuverse.

>> No.45773960

>>45767935
Why does Arc look disgusted?

>> No.45773965

>>45773956
Shut up and go get the ice cream.

>> No.45773971

>>45773952
Or in a more elegant way of Nasu saying "fuck aryan women".

>> No.45774053
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>Shiki doesn't exercise

>> No.45774065

>>45774053
Did he trace autistically? Did he make his nerves into makeshift circuit? Did he make/project various items throughout his life to at least have some semblance of progress into his latent abilities?

>> No.45774073

If Shiki and Shirou met they would kiss.

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>>45774073

>> No.45774085

>>45774073
Nasu said they would hate each other.

>> No.45774094

>>45774085
He didn't say they wouldn't kiss. It can still happen.

>> No.45774129

Shirou didn't make any progress until Rin came along to teach him:
>I've trained every day to be like Kiritsugu, but it's not that easy in reality.
>It's natural because I had no talent to begin with, but what can be said about having no improvement at all in five years?
>To sum up the present in one sentence, my goal is so far away that I'm not even at the starting line yet.

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>>45774065
Shiki was brainwashed into thinking he's normal dude so he was living normal life. It's when he entered the "World of Darkness" during the events of Tsuki he started doing what he was born to do
>Did he make his nerves into makeshift circuit?
Well he did that during the climax of Ciel route...

>> No.45774143

>>45774065
If DinoShiki is any indication, Shiki's just meant to be broken on a soul level.

>> No.45774182

>>45773795
>Single Horn. The name of the martial art practiced by Kishima Kouma. Like the monk who attains enlightenment on his own, it is solitary. Which is to say, it is a martial art that can only be passed down to “one like oneself.”

See, MB is kino. Nice tie-in Nasu.

>> No.45774193

is it just me or does Mahoyo have better production value than even the Tsukihime remake?

>> No.45774201

>>45771210
I'm not sure but I THINK it unlocks when you reach the stuff exclusive to the true ending.

>> No.45774216

>>45774132
Shirou is a machine that thinks he's human. He did the unnecessary hard path of makeshift nerve for nearly a decade until Rin told him to stop being an idiot.

>> No.45774241

>>45774216
Shiki literally gets the greatest magi genius as his teacher and even gets to crib his records like Ciel. Shiki is actually a privileged fuck. It's only ok because he got everything taken from him and has to live a hellish life battling the dead.

>> No.45774322

>>45774241
>Shiki literally gets the greatest magi genius as his teacher
And what did she teach him?

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>>45774322
She kicked him.

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>>45774143
>Roa: ok asshole, I'm going to show it to you once so pay attention. This is how you turn your nerves into circuits and this is the attraction spell
>Shiki 2 minutes later
DinoShiki was basically soft introduction to Shiki for fgofags who still haven't read TsukiR

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>>45774354

>> No.45774382

>>45774378
Ohhhhh what a view.

>> No.45774386

>>45774382
What a smell

>> No.45774391

>>45774322
Everything. I meant Roa though.
>>45774359

>> No.45774396

Miss Blue smells like a ramune Popsicle.

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>> No.45774431

>>45773782
The Goetia was a genderless being who larped as a man (Solomon), Camazotz from LB7 is a man

>> No.45774476

>>45774193
That's the Monoji difference.

>> No.45774487

>>45774359
He even mentions gravity manipulation isn't so simple and overuse will fuck the circuits. Right after this it's like "Now drop this star on her, you're on your own. GL, figure it out"

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>> No.45775293

>>45775252
Where are her legs.

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>>45775293
Angra ate them.

>> No.45775578

>>45775342
Mrs. Medusa, are you trying to seduce me?

>> No.45775602

>>45770292
>>45770332
>>45770376
I disagree, I think CCC is unironically some of his best writing and it's clear he put some genuine passion into it.
>with tons of boring psydive monologues
That's literally the best part of anything Nasu writes if you aren't a powerlevelsfag. Shiki lying in a bed going fucking crazy was better than anything having to do with fighting Roa.

>> No.45775611

>>45775578
Yes Ayako she is.

>> No.45775650

>>45774378
>>45774386
sniiiiiiif

>> No.45775978

>>45775602
Reminder CCC had multiple writers.

>> No.45775991

>>45775978
Really? Doesn't feel like it in the obvious way that FGO does.

>> No.45776075
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>>45775978
>Someone else wrote the Liz/Shinji chapter
Makes sense. It was still kino tho.

>> No.45776109

>>45775991
Like 5 people contributed including Nasu.

>> No.45776136

>>45774085
HATE FUCK

>> No.45776147

>>45776075
I mean, her being a pure virgin is kinda incompatible with the fact that servants maintain their memories of their ENTIRE life and literally the year after the age Liz is summoned at, she got married and got started on having TEN kids in her lifetime.

>> No.45776188

>>45775991
Because FGO has absolutely massive gulfs in quality between its writers so you just automatically know when it's Sakurai penning shit, the quality fucking nosedives. There clearly was a lot more coordination between the writers for CCC

>> No.45776191

>>45776147
But it's pretty explicitly stated that she's obsessed with purity BECAUSE she was forced to marry and fuck some guy when she was just 13...

>> No.45776202

>>45776191
And yet, she is still a virgin according to her SG3. Which physically yes, she would be for the age she was summoned, but she's acting like a mental virgin too. Especially since by all accounts, Elizabeth loved her husband very much (I don't care how much a marriage is arranged, you don't get to kid #10 unless they're love there or you're chained in the basement as a broodmare)

>> No.45776207

>>45776202
>they're
there's*, I meant

>> No.45776412

>>45776202
Was that all stated for Fate Liz? I only assume historical facts to be true if they are actually stated.

>> No.45776443

>>45776412
Nta but it's definitely true of Carmilla in fgo, and that's just adult Liz

>> No.45776586

>>45774431
>Camazotz
Doesnt count because he is a Lost Beast

>Goetia
Goetia is a cute girl actually

>> No.45776685

How come Type Moon's schedule for releasing games became so shitty? It really seems like it was FGO. TM released Extra and then CCC was released only 3 years later on a very timeline fashion.

>> No.45776717

>>45776685
Everyone's did because assets suddenly took more time and money to make
>and then CCC was released only 3 years later on a very timeline fashion.
You're forgetting that CCC went through multiple delays that the devs had to apologize for

>> No.45776736

>>45776685
Extra and CCC were developed at Imageepoch.
Mahoyo had a stupid number of delays.

>> No.45776772

>>45776717
This, CCC was supposed to come out like a year and a half after Extra, not over 4 years later.

>> No.45776778

>>45776772
Almost 4, I meant.

>> No.45776784

>>45774129
To be fair, Shirou was taught incorrectly on how to use his circuit.
We see that he does progress in Fate route without leeching off of Archer, and Nasu mentioned it would take Fate Shirou 20 years to master UBW. I mean he is no genius, but he isn't that much of a slouch either.

>> No.45776800

>>45776784
>it would take Fate Shirou 20 years to master UBW
Which is wierd because I was under the assumption that Archer was only like at most his late 20s when he died

>> No.45776803

>>45776800
Archer could have learned UBW after his death
Also, Nasu mentioned Archer formed his contract around his late twenties to early thirty, so he didn't die that young.

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>don't call Extra Archer "Emiya", he's "No Name"
>please ignore that they look and sound exactly the same, they have access to the same Reality Marble which is exclusive to one's soul/origin or whatever, they're both heroes of justice who were killed for going too far in their ideals, oh and both of them were a Japanese man named Shirou Emiya before becoming a servant
This isn't like Rin where in Extra she's a different person in the family's kid or some shit, it's just what happened to Shirou in this world was the same thing that happened to him in the FSN one. If you have Extra Emiya meet FSN Emiya in the bonus fight, they acknowledge they're the same person just from different realities.

>> No.45776865

>>45776850
>Rin where in Extra she's a different person in the family's kid or some shit
Isn't she some white girl that's the granddaughter of Tokiomi and her connection to the Tohsaka family is one of her parents is the child of a chick he knocked up while travelling overseas?

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>>45776850
>they have access to the same Reality Marble which is exclusive to one's soul/origin
That's just them being lazy at this point. I mean Nameless should have a UBW like Fate Shirou since he never got his mindbroken by Alaya.

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>>45776850
A shame Extra Archer don't have this outfit in Extra Record, would make it more different from the FSN one

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I would love to see Nursery Rhyme and Alice molest Passionlip

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You know a female character talking about raping a guy isn't that bad.

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>>45776202
game even said they had a good relationship

>> No.45777659

>>45770175
As far as the principles are concerned, he intuited all the same stuff through Caliburn. His shortcomings are just probably having a smaller collection and returning Avalon. Otherwise, Shirou ends at roughly the same level in all routes.

>> No.45777664

>>45777659
>Otherwise, Shirou ends at roughly the same level in all routes.
Depend if we consider Post-Avalon Shirou or not. He get the bonus of long life span that the other routes don't have, but it's just guessing at that point.

>> No.45777673

>>45777659
>His shortcomings are just probably having a smaller collection and returning Avalon.
Don't forget the smaller circuit amount if we consider censored scene

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>> No.45778141

>>45777965
cute

>> No.45778571

kiara and dr boobs sex

>> No.45778772

>>45776850
Despite what Nasu tries to sell you, continuity doesn't exist between his works because he's allergic to it

>> No.45778816

>>45776865
The story with Extra rin is that the original writer they had thought it would be a really cool idea to have a Rin-face who's related to the actual Rin but acts nothing like her.
Then when Nasu took over he argued they should just turn her into literally Rin but keep the backstory, which just make the whole thing weird as fuck. A shame, really.

>> No.45778977

>>45776850
I haven't played Extra but I thought that was just so his very name isn't a walking FSN spoiler

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what is this build? i don't remember having any pink themed interface or dungeon looking like this

>> No.45779054 [DELETED] 

>>45774201
i still had only 2 SGs after that event when she was "killed", and i was able to get CCC ending without her 3rd. i can't check SGs when she's revealed as the mastermind because the menu option is gone

>> No.45779076

I NEED RIDER TO RIDE ME

>> No.45779092

>>45779007
now i see that this looks more like first Extra. that dungeon ceiling texture and hp/mp bars are from the first game. dunno why they removed those cool dark buildings though

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the most forbidden nanaya technique...

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archer is a silly

>> No.45780524

>>45779092
And if you haven't noticed Liz have her old horn design

>> No.45780541

>>45779575
Would he be capable of hitting the death lines?

>> No.45780563

>>45779575
this is what dinoshiki used on ort

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>> No.45780739

>>45780541
Yes. Though I imagine it's easier to deal with bullets than a blade.

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>>45780524
strange horned tail girl... who is she??

i fantasized a little about forgotten old version with more mysterious and dark atmosphere...

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>> No.45781271

>>45781206
>>45780742
>>45780735
>>45780755
Nice.

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>> No.45781394

Saber’s toes
It’s beautiful.

>> No.45781409

>>45781389
I love girl feet so much.

>> No.45781468

>>45781389
I wonder if Bazett will also show up in Tsuki 2.

>> No.45781573

Why does Shirou blush in front of attractive men

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>>45780400

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>> No.45781687

>>45781619
>puppy

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Merry Post Xmas!

>> No.45781698

I love white women so much

>> No.45781764

>>45778816
>The story with Extra rin is that the original writer they had thought it would be a really cool idea to have a Rin-face who's related to the actual Rin but acts nothing like her.
But they already did that with Nero. Like, that's literally the whole point, you buy it thinking "huh, it's Saber but red" only to find out Nero is closer to a female Gilgamesh than the little british dork we love.

>> No.45781771

>>45779007
Yeah this had to be super early in development.

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>>45781698
She loves you too anon

>> No.45781962

>>45781389
will she become the new health management AI after CCC events??

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it's unfair, i have defeated that bad effigy yet they still strike my cute victorious protag...

>> No.45782185

>>45780563
He actually used a knife too

>> No.45782204

>>45780739
Since both him and Ryouji use knifes I always thought that they needed some physical connection with their target

>> No.45782216

>>45780735
If Sion were to appear in Type Lumina how old would she be? Would be she a loli?

>> No.45782232

>>45782216
She's been adjusted to fit the remake cast since that's where she's relevant.
>>45782185
>>45782204
He asked for a knife and they gave him a smg.

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>> No.45782630

>>45774398
will Nasu ever reprint his original novel?

>> No.45782899

>>45781764
That would make it a motif, not a gimmick.

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Even if you don't like him, you subconsciously do like him.

>> No.45783252

>>45783186
if i like him, do i subconsciously not like him?

>> No.45783341

>>45783186
No I consciously hate him and subconsciously want to be him

>> No.45783395

>>45783186
he is too smug

>> No.45783631

>>45783395
He is just the right amount of smug.

>> No.45783654

>>45783631
smug redman is smug

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>Hakuno wants to fuck Saber
>Female Hakuno REALLY wants to fuck Archer
>Male Hakuno doesn't want to fuck Caster
Explain

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>>45784503
Fox is too forceful, she comes across as desperately thirsty and so it's a turnoff

>> No.45784826

now that the dust has settled, what's the best Type Moon story that wasn't written by Nasu?

>> No.45784828
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CCC is making me love Liz all over again. I used to love her a lot when I first played Extella ~7 years ago but I thought I grew out of that

>> No.45784829

>>45784826
Boring answer but it's Zero.

>> No.45784833

Speaking of Tamamo, I'm on playthrough 3 now with Caster and holy shit, she just nukes everything with her spells. She is ezmode compared to Saber and Archer.

>> No.45784837

>>45784826
It's probably Prisma Illya for me. Stay Night and Hollow Ataraxia remain my absolute favorite Nasu stories and Prillya was the story that made me feel like it was the most similar to the two.
For a bit of 3Rei I felt like it was a love letter to SN and HA as well

>> No.45785035

>Andersen fondled Tamamo's ears
No, I'll never be her first now...

>> No.45785168

So did Caster actually do all the horrible things they say she did in life but she claims she didn't?

>> No.45785229

>>45785168
Yes

>> No.45785300

the Garden of Sinners is the marijuana farm Shiki kills Lio in

>> No.45785404

>>45785300
The entire "super weed" part just makes me laugh.

>> No.45785445

>>45784828
For whatever reason I remember her being more of a bitch in CCC but I guess I misremembered.

>> No.45785597

Why was Shiki killing Lio supposed to be a bad thing?

>> No.45785634

>>45785597
killing is wrong

>> No.45785747

>>45785597
Wasn't that the first time she actually killed a human being and not a monster?

>> No.45785754

>>45785634
>>45785747
but it was self defense. also Lio was already a monster which was the excuse for Araya.

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>>45785597

>> No.45785789

>>45785597
1)Nasu tried "an artistic point".
2)Abstract occult reasons, with a possibility that Nasu probably didn't know about those, at all.

>> No.45785790

>>45785754
Araya was using a puppet body iirc, and Lio was still a human, just a more primal one.

>> No.45785814

>>45774241
A shallow outlook upon being, Anonymous, extremely so.
So much so, in fact, that it's doubtful that you'd be able to handle such a "by merit all" stance taken to its logical extremes, that'd be too much pain.

>> No.45785854

>>45785790
Then what was the right thing to do, or at least what was plan B as Lio refused to see reason and ended up going even crazier after he thought he killed Mikiya

>> No.45785869

>>45785854
That isn't what I was saying. Ultimately killing Lio was the correct thing to do, but the movie kinda hammers in that killing another human being stains your soul in a way that can never be undone, no matter how much it's the correct thing to do.

>> No.45785978

>>45785869
Considering basic life functions, any philosophical grandstanding about not killing other beings, even humans exclusively is a bit late by some 14 billion years, rounded up.
lmao

>> No.45786649

>>45785978
It's just Nasu trying to sound deep, remember he wrote KnK when he was like 19

>> No.45786682

>>45786649
>he wrote KnK when he was like 19
no

>> No.45786706

>>45784826
Does Arc manga route count?

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>>45783186
I recently do an Elden Ring playthrough with him, but he looks like shit.

>> No.45786750

>>45786738
double zasshu

>> No.45786772

https://twitter.com/Merem110/status/1746091146269581818
FSN 20th anniversary stream.

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>>45786772
RELEASE IT, YOU FAGGOTS

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